No.

The days of monogamy, of every boy meets a girl are over. A bygone era. Online dating and female empowerment murdered monogamy. Hypergamy is proven statistically.
Depending on the sudy, women reject 80-95% of the men they see on Tinder. 62% of young men are single, a number so haunting even mainstream media ran headlines. 30% of young men report ZERO sexual partners in their WHOLE LIFE.

The sexual market for young people in the United States can be described as a class hierarchy, eerily similar in distribution to real economic classes:
>upper class (Chads)
Constitute the top 10%. The sole real winners of hypergamy, concentrating around 50% of the “wealth” (access to relationships or sex). Gigachads (top 1%) may cuck Chadlites, just as corporations may crush small business owners. Nonetheless, Chads are content, as they enjoy five to ten times what the average male gets.
>true middle class (high-tier normies)
Shrunk from formerly 60-70% of the young male population to meagre 40%. Men in somewhat loving sexual relationships. “Their” woman might monkeybranch to Chad at any possibility, yet they have a chance of finding another one through enormous effort, keeping them in a permanent cycle of joy and grief.
>wannabe middle class (Reddit-tier normies and basedboys)
Around 20%, just above incels. Live paycheck to paycheck (crumbs of attention and sex from low value women), incapable of building wealth (loving relationship). Defend the system to please Chad and women. Happy to hook up once a year with someone Chad pumped and dumped, ultimate class of useful idiots.
>Lower class (Incels)
No longer a fringe phenomenon, constituting a shocking 30% of young males reporting ZERO sex. Forget loving girlfriends, they dont even get casual crumbs. Either disenfranchised or enraged by having their basic needs denied, but too ashamed to ever voice true resistance to the system. Propaganda aimed at the middle classes demonizes the lower class.

no.

womans are looking for man who can control (ugly, insecure, faithfull to the job...)

Don't listen to the bullshit cope above.

Yes, if you can't get a simple coffee day you're doing it wrong and that's your fault.

>>28580697
Probably not, but it also depends. A string of bad luck is normal, especially in this day and age where women are way more picky than ever before. But even so, eventually it should happen. If it's been months, a year or two nah it ain't you. If it's been YEARS however, maybe reconsider your strategy.

>>28580733
Cope cope cope. Women are the same as ever.

>>28580752
You're the only one coping here buddy. Women change with the times and so too their desires in men, not only that but what they want by age demographics differs as well.

>>28580697
Yes
/next stupid question

>>28580705
I wouldn't say soso. I had a basic "boy-meets-girl" experience with my first and current boyfriend a few years ago, and I'm not planning to leave. It's not like I was rejecting guys left and right and chose him above all them either, he was the first guy who ever asked me for my number.

What have you done to try to get a date?

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>>28580705
*sigh*
Is there a central clearing house of stupid theories created by virgins or something?
20% of all 25 year old Zoomer men *are married already*.
>"Hypergamy"
"Hypergamy' means 'women place a low value on men's physical appearance; social status, personality, and such are much more important' - so you have that BACKWARDS
read a book
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergamy
>https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803095953889
For over 25 years young men and women have been remaining virgins longer and having fewer lifetime sexual partners. This has been major headline news since at least 2000. The anomaly of the Sexual Revolution is ending and younger Millennials and all Zoomers are acting a lot more like the early 1960's than the late 1970's. Feminists have been having a public freakout about this since MySpace was big!
How do you NOT know this?!

>>28580794
>didnt read their own links they posted
>here some 2015 data, before mass migration and a pandemic
>myspace
nigger go back to your boomer sites, your times are over. i know so many young male perma virgins, no one cares about your boomer fantasy world.
millions, possibly billions, of men face a life in which they will never get to enjoy a single positive interaction with a woman who theyre not related to. somehow this is the mens fault (as always).

>>28580794
Good post.

I've heard from a lot of women that they dont accept coffee dates because they think its low effort from the guy, that they aren't willing to pay for a meal. I'd go on a coffee date with you but you'd reject me cause I have a child.

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>>28580844
>A-bloo-bloo-blooooooo
There are as many young women virgins as young men virgins, kid. That's the point

>>28580844
>mass migration
has nothing to do with anything
>pandemic
had a bigger impact on WOMEN not having sex

>>28580875
Raped, widowed, or bad choices?

>>28580787
>my boyfriend
Easy mode players are not eligible to write reviews for the game, sorry.

>>28580844
>millions, possibly billions, of men face a life in which they will never get to enjoy a single positive interaction with a woman who theyre not related to. somehow this is the mens fault (as always).
And the majority of men have multiple positive interactions with women (not just romantic/sexual). There's some guys who have an excuse, like ones that are stuck in an all boys school by their parents, but you probably don't have that excuse.

>>28580844
>>didnt read their own links they posted
Links clearly state that women put a much higher priority on social status and such over appearance.
Did *you* read them???

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>>28580844
>millions, possibly billions, of men face a life in which they will never get to enjoy a single positive interaction with a woman who theyre not related to
Meanwhile Outside <tm> in Real Life <tm> of 25 year old Zoomer men 20% are already married.

>>28581044
Its more of a european thing, the vast majority of thier migrants are black and arab men who are also dating European women, making their dating market hyper competitive

>>28581094
Hillibillies and Chads are married, 30% of city cucks are sexless.

>>28581116
So why can't you do what even hillbillies manage to? All you have to do is leave the city

>>28581136
>can't you
I'm not personally affected, also cheap ad hominem.

30% of young men report being sexless, 62% single, with most haven given up looking.

>>28580705
You need to free yourself of your fear of women

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>>28581156
While it is true many of these guys fear women, confidentially walking into a slaughterhouse blindfolded when you were told it would be a fun birthday party is not the pinnacle of masculinity. Women make false promises, and those promises to men, don't live up to their proposed validity.

The Only way to win is not to play the game, because it was rigged from the start. Riding Motorcycles, Playing with toys and Videogames, buying and Riding a Love Doll to satisfy your urges, Living in Paradise.

All of these things provide what is promised and paid. You can't say that about women anymore, because they have too much incentive to lie to you. It's like trusting globalist politicians to not run our government into the side of the barn.

>>28581047
Widow, we were in a ltr and planning to get married but he ODed on some shitty drugs laced with fent

>>28581145
Well thats what they get for living in big cities, that they themselves choose to stay in, congratulations you played yourself

>>28581182
>Women make false promises, and those promises to men, don't live up to their proposed validity.
You've gotta stop protecting the behavior of crazy bitches on all women. I wouldn't date the vast majority of women but that doesn't mean there aren't women out there that I would date.

>>28581185
was your bf called george by any chance ?

>>28580705
God incels are so fucking insufferable the world doesn’t work like this retard get off this site
Pity partying cunts

>>28581191
>Well thats what they get for living in big cities, that they themselves choose to stay in, congratulations you played yourself

>move out of the city
>know nobody and have a different culture
>still get 0 hoes

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>>28581116
>>28581145
30% sexless *recently*. During lockdowns.
and no one said 'gave up', retard.
That study said that of men aged 18-29 *who are looking for a RELATIONSHIP* only 20% did not have a RELATIONSHIP.
As a matter of fact if you take your meme
>MUH 30% OF UNMARRIED YOUNG MEN HAD NO SEX IN THE LAST YEAR!!!! ZOMG!!!
with your meme
>MUH 60% OF MEN ARE SINGLE!!! ZOMG!!!
you might fucking NOTICE that this means that half of the "single men" are fucking women and that at least 10% of the men 'not looking for a relationship' are routinely fucking women.

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>>28580705
All incels are lying homosexuals.

>>28581185
No, that's bad life choices.
>unmarried
>LTR
>with a drug addict
hard pass

>>28581284
We were both addicted but I havent touched anything in over 7 years cause of my son

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>>28581201
They're all fucked up pal. Some of them just do a better job of hiding it.

>>28581501
see
>>28580794
The core of the redpill is total ignorance

>>28580757
Times haven’t changed. Technological developers don’t matter

>>28580757
You are a teenager who has never been on a date. You know nothing about what women like in a man now, much less what they liked in a man 20 years ago.

>>28581524
Describe, in detail
>the last time you spoke to a woman you are not related to
>when you most recently had sex with a XX female

>>28581564
>a few seconds ago
>this morning

>>28581581
Whew.
Based

>>28581051
>monogamous relationships don't exist anymore!
>yes they do
>wahh but you're a womyn
Lol.

>>28581275
Wow, now this is a red pill.

>>28581501
>Some of them just do a better job of hiding it.
That's a very weak argument
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Unfalsifiability
If I say I know a woman who counters this statement, you'll just say I don't know her well enough.

>>28580697
>be female
>male on dating app asks me if I'd like to go on a coffee date
>say yes and communicate when I'm available
>he never responds
If you don't respond you can't go on the date.

>>28580787
I don't think men are even asking for numbers or anything these days. They just turn on their social media for the latest psyop and walk away. The first guy who asks me out is literally going to be the guy I marry.

>>28580697
No, if you can't attract a woman it's because of deterministic factors beyond your control. Women have never been interested in me despite all my efforts. That's why bootstraps memes are a fucking joke.

>>28580697
yes, if there is a girl you like just walk up to her and say you want to get to know her better by getting some coffee and if she rejects you just try it with someone else. I know this sounds bluepilled or whatever buts it works or me.

>>28581783
>be antisocial sperg
>always get antisocial sperg results
shocking

>>28581783
You fucking lying cunt there are no such factors. That's why you can't name a single one.

>>28580875
Because I don't want to become a stepdather...
Ah, so these are the women that want me to have a date in a fancy restaurant...

>>28581857
Name a single what?

>>28581766
His loss
>>28581774
There are probably some men out there that are asking for your number, unless...

>>28581840
I can see why someone would get burned out from asking for women's numbers. You're right, gotta keep going at it
>>28581857
Looks (face, body, etc)
Height
Social Status
Income

>>28581961
Men uglier than you have gfs. Deadbeat NEETs have gfs. You are a fucking liar making excuses.

>>28581934
Last time a guy asked me fory number was 10 years ago. My parents had shut off my cellphone so I didn't have one. Guess he told every other guy on the planet not to ask me.

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>relationship thread

>>28580697
A particular female: not your fault.

Any female at all: your fault.

>>28582023
So those studies are le wrong? Mr. Soijak?

>>28582076
Which "studies"?

>>28582076
The statistics are right but your interpretation of them sucks.

>>28582134
What interpretations?

>>28582076
they're not wrong they're just never conclusive.

It's always a -a link- between x and y, it's all correlation no causation. like the simpsons meme about a rock that keeps tigers away

>>28581901
Most women don't expect fancy, something mid tier will do or some hidden gem is good too

>>28580794
>20% of zoomer men are married already
Someone should see the population. Im a shitskin, and through white man's dating I'm fucked. But just like my other Arab bros, I'm getting married by arranged marriage. The system that regular person faces is obefscated, ironically by my people. If you can pull up the ones of native born white people we can see better results
>women remain virgins
Unless she's a muslim, I don't think I've ever met a single lady in college. Maybe not virgins,but they're all freaking taken. The only one I found single, was such a loser, that it would be literally pity sex to fuck her. If I was a whitefag I would be an incel, but because I'm a camelbro I don't have to play this lonely game whites do. Thats why I don't believe your stats: immigrants messed up the data

>>28581136
You're being a faggot. They have a much better chances than the typical incel.
>stays indoors
>little family connection
>office or retail job
Meanwhile a redneck would be interacting with people, not live in a isolating urban town, and gets to be outdoors.

>>28580752
yes: Materialistic whores. What changed is wealth inequality.

>>28581995
>LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR
You're intellectually bankrupt.

>>28580875
> you'd reject me cause I have a child.
yes

>>28580697
Yeah.

>>28580705
Man you did a tonne of research to support that you dont just really suck ass.
I dont even wanna be your friend reading this, you think thats why people dont want to date you?
Youre rhe type to do a research paper for a Japanese anonymous kmage board about why women everywhere are to blame for you not getting laid?
Thats a high level of suck, man..

>>28584018
So why aren't you out innawoods dating country girls?

>>28580875
Cool. And a lot of women would accept coffee dates and not think thats low effort.
Women arent a hive mind. Some like things others dont..

>>28584107
Hes right, though. Uglier, poorer, shorter, less qualified, less employed people than you have girlfriends. So whats wrong with you?

>>28584148
Cause I got a girl arranged? Lol

>>28580875
>>28581901
>>28583885
Resurants are retarded. I can cook chicken and waffles, why the fuck do I gotta to some place to pay to wait an hour for a shittier and fatter version of my food? If the girl doesn't want to go in my house I can bring the dinner with me and we can go to a park or something.

>>28584194
I mean incels

>>28584101
From chronica johannes c. 1290
”The Danes, thanks to their habit to comb their hair every day, to bathe every Saturday, to change their garments often, and set off their persons by many such frivolous devices. In this manner, they laid siege to the virtue of the married women, and persuaded the daughters even of the nobles to be their concubines.”

This is a 700 year old document from a monk saying "wahh all women are whores they just wanna hajg with turbo chads who bathe weekly and brush their hair".
Nothing has changed. At all. You have people living life and enjoying themselves, and people no one wants to talk to let alone hang out with (who have trouble bathing evidentally) crying its womens fault.
This isnt new. You literally just suck.
I bet you dont even really have ant real friends who would spend a saturday with you because youre lame as fuck, but cant make the connection that that's also why women dont want to spend their life woth you if youre not even appealing for a day trip as friends.

Banging an escort costs 200 bucks on average.

>>28580697
no most guys are having the same problem nowadays. Women won't even treat you like a human if you arent attractive. Ive approached so many women but have never been on a date and haven't even had a woman willing to have a conversation with me in years.

>>28584186
Because it boils down to determinism. There are causal factors beyond our full understanding. For some men, like me, no matter what we do, we just can't find a woman to like us. We try to better ourselves. We to be ourselves. We try to be someone else. It's never good enough.

>>28584296
>approaching people is the sole variable

For real, do you even have real friends? Remember dating involves convincing someone toure interesting enough to spend time around.
Do you have any friends who would hang with you often let alone daily?

>>28581774
Will you go out with me?

>>28584321
Yes I have lots of good friends. I spend time with them at least a couple times a week. My problem is that I can't show my personality to women because they decide they want nothing to do with me the second they see me.

>>28584310
There really arent. If a woman finds you interesting you have a chance.
If you, unbeknownst to you, come across as cringy, awkward, annoying af, thats what they see. And no amount of pretending and lifting is gonna fix that if you dont know why no one really wants to hang out with you.

Nor is anything gonna help you if youre an autistic 4 approaching 10s in public all the time. Theyre not going to date you. Another autistic 4 definitely will. Figure out your archetype, or why people just dont like you. Maybe youre nasally, maybe youre too abrupt and stocatic when you talk so yoy just sound aggressive.
Maybe youre not telling ys by "i approach women" you mean walking up yo them and sayinf "yo baby im johnny bravo and have I got an exciting night on the docket for you".
Nothing youre claiming youre doing is actually going to work if you come off badly. And no male is gonna be your friend let alone female gonna date you if thats the case. And yet every time you people come here with stats and charts trying to demonstrate its all womens fault when we all know its you. You are the only variable in your failure. No matter what else you say: ugly, someone uglier did it. Broke, someone more broke did it... no matter what, it all comes back to something about you specifically sucks, and its probably something you *can* control.

>>28584392
No amount of being interesting is going to matter when women have already decided you aren't attractive enough to show them who you are

I'm a 20 year old virgin and proud of it.

>>28580697
Yes

>>28580705
>t. I can't get a date so it's society's fault, not mine

>>28580705
Imagine if you put this much energy into talking to women

>>28584392
Do you think every guy who has a gf is a catch? Answer truthfully. And if the answer is No, then the question remains why can't *I* find a girlfriend? And I've already told you the answer. I'm cursed. I was brought into this life to suffer. I'm not gonna tell you my life story but I've had so much shit rigged against me it's unreal. I wouldn't be surprised if it was some kind of experiment. Anyway, being unwanted and unsuccessful with women is just one more kick in the teeth. So yeah, I give up. If women don't want me, I'm not even gonna make anymore efforts. They're only doomed to fail. Why humiliate myself for a foregone conclusion?

>>28581275
After 2008 the internet and video games became objectively better than sex.

>>28584218
you ever ask for mcdonalds as a kid and your mom is like "no hunny we have burger meat at home" and it's wall to wall disappointment not just because of the food but just the experience of going to mcdonalds as a little kid

congrats on becoming your mom

>>28584496
>why yes, I have never had sex, how can you tell?

>>28584493
Based.

>>28584523
Numbers don't lie.

>>28584493
>No, then the question remains why can't *I* find a girlfriend?
NTA but

1. Having a unnegotiable list of demands about which kind of girl you would or wouldn't date

2. Never actually asking girls out

3. permavictim as a personality

choose at least two.

>>28584567
you have had sex 0 times indeed

>>28584598
I've had sex 15 times.

>>28584598
Yes, and?

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>>28584496
around 2007 was when hub sites for pornographic videos was first introduced.

All the big names still around today like porhub youporn redtube xvideos etc.

and so 15 years ago a bunch of like 10 year olds are left unsupervised online, fast foward today and they think that the average girl has taken 9000 cocks before she graduates high school and that the average dick size is 11 inches long and that women love to get chokeslammed and powerbombed through tables during sex, incest is like practically normal now, etc.

>>28584608
so at what point between times 1 and 15 of having sex did you go "yeah this is neat I guess, but what would be even better would be me be watching other people have sex while I diddle myself at the computer chair with my pants not even fully off"

>>28584643
kek, I never masturbate you retarded coomer (thug music starts playing)

>>28584656
so what's better than sex? looking at pictures of reddit posts on 4chan?

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>>28584708
The knowledge that women can't bait me with sex.

>>28584726
so you were having sex with men?

>>28584588
Nope. I'm screwed by fate. Like I said, my life has been a sick joke since day one. So, it's not surprising that I can add my undesirability to women to the list. Meanwhile every other idiot is having girls fall into their lap lmao.

>>28584747
I was having sex with my fiancee. The engagement was dissolved so now I enjoy life.

Bump

>>28584761
>Nope. I'm screwed by fate. Like I said, my life has been a sick joke since day one.
Permavictim it is then.

>>28580705
>>28580697
I just did it and I'm a cripple who's probably autistic. Bad bait. I'll admit though that it's certainly thougher than before
>Find a girl you like
>Chat a bit
>Get her contact to chat more
>Ask her out on a coffee date
>Repeat until one says yes

>>28584771
finally you're free to post on 4chan

>>28584978
I don't see how any man wouldn't enjoy his single life. It truly is bliss.

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>>28585000
>I don't see how any man wouldn't enjoy his single life. It truly is bliss.

>>28585025
Is this supposed to be triggering to anyone?

>>28585025
You wouldn't look like that if you went outside every day walking and doing push-ups. Good job at outing yourself as a literal faggot.

>>28585054
nope, just a bunch of cool dudes enjoying their single life of pure bliss

>>28585064
nothing wrong with being a faggot, keeps the bitch ex-wife away LOL

>>28585070
They would be enjoying it if they knew how to channel their sex drive and turn it off for the off-season.
>>28585080
Yeah, what should I do? Press a magical button to get her back?

>>28581524
What a meaningless reply, with nothing to back it up to boot too. Do not reply to me again fool.

>>28584761
Nice job disproving that permavictim accusation anon.

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>>28580697
Yes

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>>28580697
>a female
maybe don't call them that, that'd be step one I think

>>28585862
Kek, yeah these dudes are so deep into their insular little 4chan bubble that they seemingly have no idea how autistic it sounds to refer to them as "females" instead of girls or women like normal people.

>>28585961
I've seen chads call you females

>>28580794
>"Hypergamy' means 'women place a low value on men's physical appearance; social status, personality, and such are much more important' - so you have that BACKWARDS
Your links don't say that though
I don't agree with the anon you're replying to at all just wanted to point this out

>>28585993
>you

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>>28580794
>>28580860

Yes
Stop having higher standards than you should have.

last time when i met with a girl, i lost her in subway. my fault ? kek

I can't get a coffee date either, all I get are lame excuses.

>>28584963
How the fuck are you suppose to keep doing this and NOT get bitter/jaded with all the "no's" you've gotten?

>>28584921
>>28585795
I don't care? I am a victim of fate. You guys just won't admit that not every guy with a gf is a catch, because it totally disproves your dumbass boomer-tier beliefs.

>>28584262
I mean proper grooming should be encouraged. Female are correct in this case.

>>28585862
It's blackspeak.
>>28586059
My standards are modest.

>>28586019
Yes.
They do.
Dont lie

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>>28582023
As opposed to virgins insisting they know the secret innermost thoughts of all women?

>>28583017
Correlation is predictive.

>>28580697
If you've asked a lot of women and they all turn you down then yes, it's your fault. At some point you have to stop blaming your surroundings and you have to start looking inward to identify the problem. It's not always gonna be the world's problem or a problem with women, you're not always gonna be a victim to outside forces, eventually, you're gonna be the victim of yourself.