Garden of Eden edition.
We just did this today. Does anyone else get tired of these?
Girls what do you think about apricots?
>>2857861934 KB JPGI don't feel worthy of female attention. Long story short, I was fat in middle and high school and now I'm good looking, but I feel like women shouldn't like me. Girls have been nothing but nice to me for the past couple years, and I'm sure this won't change unless I'm too flirty inappropriately. I don't feel like women should be nice to me or accept my conversations. I'm never sexually charged or forward and won't be, but I feel weird if they're nice to me, smiling and talkative. So how do I break out of this?
>>28578629I feel like dying every time I see a girl talk about their boyfriend, it's why I left these threads to be honest.
It's depressing being a creepy pervert. I'm handsome enough that it sometimes pays off but I hate that 70 percent of women think I'm a freak
>>28578638Why?
>>28578636Cognitive Behavioral Therapy to help change your negative thought patterns, for one thing.Another thing is practicing online.I know it sounds silly, but it really does help, since you're able to 'try out' flirting, without any real consequences.And lastly, continue to be nice. And when you really mesh with somebody, you guys have a similar sense of humor, spend more time with them. Something may develop. A relationship doesn't have to start from flirting from the first moment.
>>28578638Girls constantly have boyfriends. It's just the way it is. Become the guy she leaves him for or wants to cheat on him with. I'm advocating stealing some guy's girl, but you should become a guy that dudes get insecure around. Be more physically fit and less beta than him.
>>28578641Because I'm single and lonely and not a glutton for self torture.Anyway, I'm going to go, you guys have fun.
>>28578649Is this the post that was supposed to bring the women back?
>>28578659Yes:)
>>28578654I meant to say, i'm not advocating for that lol
>>28578634I seriously prefer prunes.>>28578629I get tired about the same types of questions from guys. It's always about boobs.
>>28578652I don't really want to flirt though. And the issue is that I don't really desire being friends with women. I know I can just be acquaintances with women and then search for a relationship from there though.
>>28578649No, thanks.>>28578634Big fan.
>>28578665so what do you want
>>28578664Sometimes we ask about pussies and butts though.
I am gonna relive my 20s while living my 30s. I am changing my look, getting a new id with a new name that says I am younger, and I will tell new people I meet the new identity. But I am also still living as my 30s self. I know people have ran off and started life with a new identity but anyone ever do it like this? So curious.
>>28578662It... it's not working.
Non-right-wing guys and girls: Would you sleep with a trans person? Man or woman? Pre or post-op?
genderIQfavorite dessert if you like sweets
>>28578680>Would you sleep with a trans person?No.
>>28578680Male. I would let a trans-man (bio female) blow me. But that's about it. I don't think I'd want to embrace a man with a vagina, seems weird.
>>28578671Long term? Probably marriage and lifelong monogamy with a woman who's compatible with me. Short term? I could take or leave a relationship, but I should probably look for one now because the type of woman I'm interested in will probably be taken by mid-20s
>>28578680No. That's disgusting. I only fuck real women.A woman who "becomes" a man is still a woman, but her pretending to be a man is off putting. They end up looking like a freak, so it's disgusting. Trans people are weird and disgusting. Sorry.
>>28578682M138Hard to say, if I had to pick one probably chocolate chip cookies, only if I can include the dough
>>28578694>pretending
>>28578682F. Low 140s.Ice cream. Coffee with chocolate chips by talenti is my fav if you want something store bought.
>>28578700The scars were seriously the first thing I noticed.
>>28578680straight guy, would definitely sleep with a trans woman. truth is most men would if she's attractive to them, op is irrelevant
>>28578682M174I don't like sweets
>>28578705I mean they're in the middle of the photo, it would be weird if you didn't notice them. Not exactly trying to hide them.
>>28578700The vast majority of people think trans people are disgusting. They won't admit they fee this way though. It's nothing personal. Men and women want the opposite sex who feels secure in themselves. Men want women and women want men.
>>28578682M157cheesecake
genderageyour goal in life>if it's happiness or some generic thing expand on it
>>28578706No. Even if their face is attractive they still have man shoulders, man hands, man feet, man asses. You're fucking a man and you will absolutely know it while you're doing it.
>>28578682m145tiramisu
>>28578649As much as I would love to have giant tits and be taller, if my libido was any higher I'd be grinding on strangers' legs everywhere I go, so I have to pass.
>>28578715F, 29. To get married and have children with my bf, and live happily with him until the day we die. That's honestly it.
>>28578682M118blueberries or stawberries or somethingrefined sugar is disgusting
>>28578715F, 31, get married and have a kid.
>>28578715M18I can't say for sure, but I guess just to have a wife who is right for me and I love, have kids who are smart, virtuous, and well adjusted, and to have a career I like.
>>28578711Okay cool and all but one problem:There are men who like men and women who like women.
Why am I supposed to try and genuinely care about my girlfriend when I know she doesn't genuinely care about me.
>>28578717doubtful anon, sorry to hear about your repressed homosexuality
>>28578715M 29start a career, see the world, fuck many women
>>28578715m32reach better point in career, get married, have kids
>>28578678MORE BOOBS!
>>28578720>if my libido was any higher I'd be grinding on strangers' legs everywhere I goThat's kinda hot.
>>28578735>>28578736the duality of man
>>28578738Sexual assault isn't hot, you're crazy.
Girls, how do you feel about the depiction of females in media? Same for guys I guess.
>>28578745Are you telling me a tall massive-titted catgirl pouncing on your leg and humping your knee ISN'T hot?
ChatGPT suggested my girlfriend and I do a 'sexy scavenger hunt', and upon asking for elaboration gave me this.Would you do any of these with your partner?State gender.
>>28578749In a cnc fantasy, maybe. But in real life, no.
>>28578717ngl, but HRT can give tgirls some seriously nice asses.
>>28578738
>>28578755But this is horny jail.And we're both the inmates and the wardens.
>>28578749you sound like an idiot whos never been off the internet
>>28578682M148I like most desserts but I'm not huge on sweets and don't really have favorites for most things. I make pies and cornbread and zucchini bread most often though.
>>28578729Yea, but most people are heterosexual. Also many homosexuals won't fuck with trans people either.
>>28578700Blue board. Please censor female breasts in the future. I got you this time fren, but please be careful going forward.
>>28578754You can tell it's a man ass though. Also, no amount of estrogen will change a man's feet. That shit is always a dead giveaway, specifically the heels.
>>28578749Braindead.
women do you think society would be better if men could be instantly banished to horny jail for a set amount of time and then be reintegrated into society with their memories slightly altered
>>28578746M opinion. There's largely been a regression in quality female characters. Like compare 1993 Addams Family Values' Wednesday to the new Netflix thing.
>>28578682M87chocolate chip ice cream
>>28578680No. No. No.
>>28578663I'm advocating for it.If a girl is willingly single in 2023 it means she's too picky.
>>28578774>87 IQbased anon
>>28578700Girls can pass as guys. Guys can't pass as girls. Sure you can post some heavily edited onlyfans tranny that might pass online, but once you see them in real life you'll immediately know it's a man.
How the fuck do all you people know your iqs
>>28578793take one of the mensa tests
>>28578793Because they're lying.
>>28578746I don't watch enough media to have strong feels about it honestly. I never related much to any female character on tv
>>28578793I took a test with my school psychologist
Okay looking for real advice here.How do I use my friendships with some girls to meet other girls? These girls I'm friends with, they like me and I think some of them find me attractive and funny and other good things. But how can I turn that into and introduction to some of their other friends?I'm not looking to be set up or anything weird, just organically meet new people.
>>28578793I got tested for a study in college.
>>28578682Fno ideaRaspberry Cheesecake
>>28578789idk. I know a few trans women. A couple definitely do not pass. Their voices are masculine, their features are as well. Two of them, however -- I had absolutely no clue that they were trans until they told me. And they transitioned in their 20s, too. I'd even seen them in swimsuits, and they have pretty flawless bodies. It's shocking how well they pass. I think that you've probably seen more transwomen than you think and just didn't realize it. Typically, the ones who pass the best aren't posting their pics or sharing it all over the place. They don't want to have it be part of their identities and just don't want anyone to know.
>>28578680Absolutely not. I don't mind them otherwise as people it just feels like being with someone who got extensive plastic surgery, or who was obese and got liposuction, it's not natural
>>28578768Interesting. What about the heels?And I'm not really sure about the asses. It can seriously change fat redistribution.
>>28578680Nah. I have no interest in penises and post-op holes seem awful.
>>28578793I took a test by a psychologist in order to get into Mensa because they had an open board position and I had free time.
>>28578793How else are you going to call people midwits on 4chan?>>28578680M, straight. Call me crazy but maybe I would. In the right situation. I wouldn't seek it out, but maybe it could happen.
ChatGPT is now giving me advice on sex positions to try ... I didn't think it was allowed to do this
>>28578750F. It all seems so tedious. Why can't we just have sex?
>>28578750M, agreed that that sounds very tedious. No thank you.
>>28578746M. There's a lot of mary sues, aggressive space marines, and girlbosses. Which are all ok enough archetypes in small doses, but the dose is not small anymore.Creative industries seem pretty terrified to do more human or vulnerable female characters, which is understandable given the climate right now.
>>28578750I'd be more turned on by a real scavenger hunt.
>>28578682M120Tiramisu
>>28578715M25To find a wife and start a family
>>28578750I'm a dude so maybe you don't want my opinion. I think you could certainly incorporate elements of this into flirting with your gf. Most girls seem to like it when you do bold shit like straight up ask for nudes (be prepared to make a game out of it, she's going to send you stuff you didn't really ask for and it's your job to get her to send what you're really looking for).But on the whole I think you would get better mileage out of doing a real scavenger hunt that's less sexual, except it ends at a romantic dinner spot and then afterwards you do something special like take her to a hotel with a view.
>>28578823Male heels jut out significantly compared to female heels which are much more flat. In my opinion the easiest way to tell gender is to look at the feet. Dead give away every time.
What does it mean when a girl unfriends you but doesn't block you, is there any significance or am I just reading too much into it? We've known each other for two years btw
>>28578715M30No idea. I'm pretty lost at this point. I got the marriage, education, and successful career check boxes ticked. I don't think I want kids. Not sure where to go from here. My life feels pretty empty.
>>28578887Mate she doesn't think of you. I'm sure she was just going through her list and getting rid of people she doesn't talk to or care about.
>>28578883Lmao based
Why does it kind of bother me the moment I notice a guy is attracted to me? Because I am a but oblivious but through experience I've developed a sixth sense about it where I already know they have noticed and realized their attraction and now there's tension and it will never be a normal friendly encounter or platonic relationship and then they start the peacocking process to impress youand relate to you and do things for you and others notice so they start making sure you are alone with this guy and then it's only a matter of time before this causes drama because some other girl likes him or he can't take rejection well. So yeah....
Women how much older than you are guys you go for?
MHow do I start IRL dating?After 3 e relationships ending pretty badly I don’t think I want to do that anymore but I don’t know where to start.
What does evil mean to you?
>>28578715F31I suppose life goals are long term goals and if so I am always working on my biggest dream to visit every country in the world, and really learn about the culture, history, and language. Secondary to this one is just to be performing and creating, so I make music, I sing, I dance, I do sports, and I try to spend my time doing things that bring me joy. At this time this is all I want out of life.
Do high IQ girls even exist? I dunno what is "high IQ," so let's say maybe 125+ or something?And if they do exist well.. what are they like? How's life treating them? How have their relationships gone?
>>28578895My bf is the oldest guy I've dated and he's 3.5 years older than me.
>>28578924Scandalous
>>28578883Tell me you have a footfaggotry fetish without telling me you have one.
>>28578894Cause you're young and neuroticJust get older and get more mellow, learn to go with the flow and accept the dirty and complicated parts of humanity, people are what they are, learn to laugh and ride the waves
>>28578934I actually don't, but I used to watch a lot of tranny porn and every single time I saw the feet it took me out of it and made me realize how much of a faggot I was. That's why I'll never have sex with a tranny. I'd probably kill myself afterwards.
>>28578916I'm pretty normal. Have friends, a house, a job, a bf. I'm okay looking and have a good personality. My life is nice, no complaints. My relationships have been overall fine. I struggle to find people I really click with, but once I found the right person it's all been very easy. We've been together for years and I'm happier everyday.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearly_penile_papulesGod, I want to suck a dick with pearly penile papules so much. Guys, do you have it? Do you touch the papules while jerking off? How does it feel?
Femanons what would you think if your bf had several pairs of $500+ boots?Not super stylish but more in the work boot territory.I don’t have any currently but wish I did.
>>28578916I'm somewhere in the low twenties and I've definitely had a gf who was hella smarter than I am. She was just absolutely my superior in literally every way. She wasn't even socially awkward. She didn't have any baggage like depression or anxiety and she was hot as fuck. It was literally terrifying how perfect she was (is).
>>28578946When you say very easy, what do you mean?I really click with my girl, but some things we disagree on and argue a bit on (voice our upsetness and are a little pissy for a day). And some opinions we don't agree on either. Sometimes I'll get a little annoyed with her and want time alone.Do you guys get that too? What does very easy mean.
>>28578950Just fuck a guy with genital warts. It's much more common.
>>28578950Yeah, I do. Weird that I've never thought about it very much. It's WAY less prominent than the picture in that article, though. I dunno how much it changes anything.
>>28578954Buy the danners, but don't tell anyone how much they cost
>>28578957I'm a guy and I'm kinda like that except I have a bit of a depressive personality, so I'm only an ideal person from the outside looking in. Decent chance she had something similar
>>28578916I know they exist because I'm in Mensa and there are plenty of women there. The ones I know are generally decent, interesting people. Smart people do have a tendency to be weird and off-beat in general, but I feel like it's less true of smart women than smart men. (Still kinda true though)...most of the ones I meet seem to like board games. But that's probably just because I'm usually playing board games there.
>>28578964>danners Honestly I want a few pairs of White’s like the Cruiser, the MP Sherman, and their smoke jumpers.>but don't tell anyone how much they costI don’t plan to, but that isn’t something I’d keep a secret from a gf.
>>28578970Is mensa worth it? I have a qualifying test. I'm 18 if that helps
>>28578960We love spending time in each other company, it always feels nice and comfortable to be together. We're honestly each other's best friend.We argue very rarely, disagree often but it never gets ugly. At most we'll call each other dumb, kiss and move on with our day.It has been a great relationship.
>>28578976Also the Bounty Hunters
>>28578938Dumbest post in this entire thread.Did you use ai for this?
>>28578682M139Cinnamon rolls
>>28578978No, it's fucking dumb.There is absolutely no point other than dick measuring.
>>28578988no just beer
>>28578954I don't care about how much my bf spends on shoes as long as he can afford it.
>>28578983Okay yeah, that sounds like mine when we're in person, just when long distance it's harder to kiss and make up when you can't physically hug. I guess the long distance has me worried. My first relationship, so I always get nervous it'll fall apart.Thanks for sharing your experience it has been of help to me. Congrats on your happy relationship
>>28578992Are you in it?
>>28578963How did your girlfriends react? Also do you feel the papules during sex?
>>28578996We're also long distance (well not right now, he's asleep on my butt) and yeah, it's harder to sort those things out quickly when you're apart.
>>28578715M23My goal in life is to have a wife I love with all my heart and healthy children.A selfish desire I have is vengeance though.
>>28578995Based
>>28578793i got tested in 7th grade as part of a psych workup that ended in a depression and ADD diagnosis
>>28579010A classic story. Same btw. but they didn't even test my IQ they just assumed it was high
https://youtu.be/BD982PO4F6Mwomen: does this guy have a chance with you
>>28578619So why the fuck is it that when a couple is married in fiction 90% of the porn is either the wife or some sort of cheatingI wanna see the married couple FUCK each other
>>28578968Not that I could ever tell. She was basically never depressed or manic. I just couldn't keep up with her. People tend to find me to be a very smart person and are usually intimidated by me, but she was on a completely different level. She knew exactly what I was thinking and how I was feeling before I did. It was like having an alien watching my thoughts on a TV screen. Sometimes we would have an argument and she would basically just stop and explain exactly what I was thinking and feeling and why and I'd be like... Fuck. You got me. It must have felt like she was dating a 3-year-old... And I graduated summa cum laude from a pretty good school.
Am I as good looking as my best or worst pictures? I have no doubt if I posted my face here people would tell me I'm super good looking, but am I really that good looking if those are just my best pictures?
>>28579016is he really like this or just playing a character
>>28578997By the skin of my teeth. I went to a few meetings because my parents wanted me to and no one was any more interesting than any of the grad students or professors I was friends with. It was just smugness and no one was particularly accomplished. Maybe other groups are better, but this one sucked.
>>28579023>She was basically never depressed or manic. Yeah I'm not on the outside either, I just have basically permanent existential depression. Maybe I'm just coping by thinking that everyone has to have a flaw. You said you're low 120s IQ? Yeah the difference between that and say 140s is pretty big. I'm around 140 and can't say I've ever met anyone like that, just people close to my level
>>28579029Yes and no. Photogenicity is a real thing. Flattering lighting, angles and focal lengths are a real thing. Facial asymmetry confusing your brain when viewing pictures is a real thing.Just use context clues to figure out if you're good looking. Do women like you? Do they laugh at dumb jokes? Do they ever approach you or check you out or ask you out?In my experience good looking guys can tell simply by how women react to them. You're at least good looking "enough" if girls go to the trouble of pursuing you and asking you out. That's apparently really rare for most guys.
>>28579029Anon, you are both your best critic and your worst critic. You look at yourself in the mirror every day. You will think you're attractive because of this. But also you will think you're ugly because you will notice the flaws most people will overlook/ignore. Odds are if you can take a good photo, you're good looking. If people tell you you are good looking, you are good looking. Think of an attractive person, and think of an ugly photo of them. Odds are you still think they are attractive.
>>28579029Photos on a digital camera are more real than on a phone for starters. Also it's good to look back on photos after a while and not right away, with a pre determined bias in your head. Third how you felt at the time of the photo reflects in it, if you were insecure or sad it will show. My limited knowledge of modeling will tell you, if a photo is bad you don't know your angles, and the lighting is bad. If all your photos are bad you aren't photogenic. If people avoid you in public then you are ugly. So relax. Every model has an ugly ass photo of them somewhere.
>>28579045>Do women like you? Do they laugh at dumb jokes? Do they ever approach you or check you out or ask you out?I don't think that method works because I know I'm not approachable at all. Women are always nice to me, a couple have acted like that to me in the past, but only in an ambiguous way except for one girl who was pretty blatant.
>>28579041Sorry, I meant low 130s fwiw. I don't know where she was, but it was more than me. I have constant existential depression and dread that manifests as chronic avoidance and regret in decision making which she found obnoxious, but I could never tell if anything actually bothered her from a mental standpoint. She was very much a forward mover.
>>28578978I'd say yes overall, although the last few years have strained it. It's a great way to meet people and do fun things if you're in an area where there's a lot of activity and/or have enough disposable cash to go to the big events (RGs, AGs, Mind Games, etc.), and they're often interesting and fun people in my experience....but I'm a life member so for me it's free aside from costs of the events, and I'm relatively financially sound so I can afford events now and again, so I'm not the best person to ask. Would it be worth paying the cost every year on a 34k per year salary? Possibly not, unless you're really hurting for socialization with other smart people.
>>28579016something about the way he forms and enunciates sentences really pisses me off
>>28579039https://youtu.be/f9iXM4K8ALgdunno
>>28579046I've only been told I'm good looking by a non-family member to my face like once or twice. >>28579056Can you have an average person look super good looking with a flattering pic though? Because in my best I feel like I'm a 9-10/10.
>>28578750If you're at this point in your sex life it's basically dead kek
Be me, out for St Patrick’s day, some really hot girl starts flirting with me / dancing and stuff She’s clearly into me and we’re talking a lot, eventually she goes to sit with some of her friends at the bar and I am with my friends Later she’s dancing again, and I’m standing with my friends, and I start talking to her again. But some other guy comes up to me and hands me his beer, and he’s reaching in his pockets and puts gum in his mouth and takes the beer back. He tries to say something to the girl and she and I just start dancing again He went away But I’m wondering wtf that was? Like was he trying to make me look dumb or something? It didn’t work, the girl ended up kissing me later
>>28579057I have the biggest resting bitch face in the world mate, I understand where you're coming from. I don't particularly mean having random women approach you in public. More like if you know a girl through work/friends/hobbies/etc, will she ever come over to say hi and introduce herself? If you've already been introduced is she interested in chatting to you, talking with you online outside of your mutual acquaintance, does she flirt or reciprocate your flirting?Women just aren't bold. Whatever you think bold means, divide that by 10. If a girl is making that much effort to get to know you then chances are you're desirable.
>>28579061Okay, maybe I'll consider it when I graduate and start making money
>>28578998No one has ever commented on it. And no, not during PIV sex. They're a bit more sensitive than the rest of the glans, so focusing on them with fingers or a tongue can be a bit too stimulating sometimes... But honestly, like I said, I never realized that it was abnormal and mine are much smaller than that picture.
>>28578629>WeWho?>thisWhat?>>28578634Never tried one.>>28578636Channel your inner actor, and simply pretend to be someone who IS worthy. >>28578677What happens when you turn 40 though?>>28578680No. My politics aren't defined by who I'd fuck.>>28578682FHufflepuffCookies and cream custard>>28578715FLate 20sEarn a comfortable living from art commissions while keeping my job away from AI who want to eat it>>28578730You don't know her thoughts.>>28578746The Killing Eve finale was bullshit.>>28578750F, sounds fun, but the time limit would stress me out.>>28578793I took a Facebook quiz. It's as accurate as all the other tests.>>28578809Do they talk about their female friends around you? If so, take advantage of that. Ask questions about their friends. If you discover you have interests in common, act excited and ask for their contact info. Friends like connecting their friends with other friends.>>28578887Sounds like you were just purged from her list along with 200 others.>>28578894Because your relationship totally changes, and you can't assume he has no ulterior motive anymore.>>28578895~5 years maybe? The older you get, the less it matters.>>28578897It sounds cringe, but look for social events and speed dating sessions in your city. Assuming that's even still a thing.>>28578913Animal abuse.>>28578916Yes. They're just like you.>>28578954As long as he doesn't go broke, I don't mind. Quality work boots are a good investment.>>28579016No>>28579021Drama sells better than happy marriages.
>>28579029If you look good having a photo snapped of you with zero preparation, then you simply look good.>>28579070Sounds like some failed ~alpha move~ to assert his dominance.
>>28579080kys
>>28579071Well I don't really talk much with women much, all my friends are male. I've never flirted and I'm not sure if women flirt with me, it's hard to tell.Last semester a girl was pretty talkative with me, would come sit next to me, gave me her number as an acquaintance without me asking, etc.And then whenever I talk to women they're usually receptive to a conversation. This semester I was just talking to a girl about a test and I saw her walking around and she just smiled at me, but that can't be anything right?
>>28579090People did this at a college in America? If so, then you are hot.
>>28579084>If you look good having a photo snapped of you with zero preparation, then you simply look good.Well sometimes I do, but not always
Changed my mind about starting tinder again. While I would like to do something fun, I just started seeing how bad the dating pool was and turned it off.I wish normal people had better hobbies and interests besides smoking weed and drinking alcohol. And of course it's the most attractive people who are out of my league that I can't swipe on, who will openly say they're interested in Lord of the Ring or Warhammer.Men, be more approachable thanks.
Girls do you think it's creepy if your bf jerks off to random pictures of you?
>>28578746MApparently people think "strong female character" means "huge man-hating cunt with no personality"which sucks because I like a well written strong female character
>>28579091Again, I feel like women talking to you about school and giving you smiles doesn't really mean anything. That's the same I'll do with other guys and we're not attracted to each other
>>28579094https://youtu.be/WHLg48_iMxM
women could he ever redeem himself? >>28579097
>>28579093Lower your standards a bit. The attractive guys on tinder are just looking to fuck. The mid looking guys with similar interests would make a good bf.
>>28579074To be frank, if you're still in school there's basically 0 reason to join since you already have the social access. Once you're an adult and that goes away it's more pressing....That being said, I do wish we had more young people, but I'm saying that as a member of one of the oldest states in the Union so that is a major contributing factor here.
>>28579080>Drama sells better than happy marriages.But the love makes it HOTTER
>>28579086*kyses you on the cheek*>>28579093Leagues are a meme. Swipe boldly.>>28579094Random pics are a bit weird. I'd prefer if he had a few favorite ones.
>>28578619why do girls settle so quickly?So many really attractive and smart girls settle for like their high school sweetheart or college bf who never lives out to his potential. Whenever i think i meet someone gf material, she has a bf and the bf is some dude that peaked in high school, out of shape now, earns less than her, etc. Like even if they dont date me, they can do so much better. I wish when she says she has a bf its a gigachad.
>>28579094No.
>>28579101RIP Trevor. Pouring out a shot of mouthwash for ya.
>>28579090Honestly the line between flirting and friendly is very blurry, and women rely on that. Chances are the girl who kept making an effort to be around you was at least attracted to you. A girl smiling at you doesn't mean anything. It's friendly recognition.
men: what's the best way of telling my bf that i think his selfies look cringey? i don't mind if they were candid and natural but he always pulls a "face" which is something crossed between a smolder and a smirk. it just looks awkward and insincere.i don't send him selfies of myself btw, and he usually drops them in context of trying to show me something like a dog or something, but for some reason includes his face.
My girlfriend lives with a roommate in uni and stuff is going down that is frustrating me, may I vent here?
>>28579115>why do you do that cringe face all the time lol...or something. But then I prefer directness, not everyone does.
>>28579109because the goal is getting married or progress towards a family. girls don't want to take a gamble on a potentially better stranger who ends up being a player that bails or otherwise makes a poor father figure. the guy she has now is at least familiar and has proven he'll stick around even through her bullshit.
>>28579114I wasn't attracted to the first girl so I didn't really care, although it came to my mind of course.
>>28579108>>28579111do you think about your bf masturbating to you, or you just find it appealing if the thought comes to you
>>28579115God I fucking can't stand when dudes pull that face. I don't know why so many beta males do it.Stop dating faggots honestly.Or tell his friend to tell him he looks gay
>>28579107Then go read slow burn fanfiction!>>28579109Girls are just people who make good and bad decisions. Nobody can tell the future, so all we can do is go with the best option today.>>28579120Sure, this is basically the Gender Venting Thread anyway.>>28579126It's not something I specifically think about, but the general idea is flattering.
>>28579103I don't swipe only on looks. I look at their picture, scroll to see if they're open to long term, and then read their bio. Even ugly guys on tinder have "looking for short term" and personally in my area there are a lot of single fathers. It sounds far fetched, but the women must be deadbeats out here.>>28579108Sometimes I think of just doing what my friend does and swipe on everybody. But I don't ghost people, I just unmatch, and I don't want to unmatch 5 gazillioon profiles.
>>28579115He's under the impression that you think it's cute.So, tell him "that ain't cute". Problem solved!
My thread watcher only shows threads from the board type I'm on. For example, on the blue boards I can only see the blue threads I'm watching and the NSFW boards I can see my NSFW threads. I forgot how to combine the two.How do I do that?
>>28579125That's fine. But as a guy it absolutely IS your job to pay attention and notice these things. Girls are incredibly subtle, no matter how bold they think they're being, and you'll miss every opportunity if you can't tell what's flirting and what's not.When in doubt, flirt back, but escalate by steady degrees. If she reciprocates and continues to reciprocate even as you escalate, ask her out. If she backs off as you escalate, she's not keen and you two can just stay friends.
>>28579115that's the male equivalent to the female duckface
>>28579122yeah i was thinking of trying this one but wasn't sure of how he'd react to it. it seems him placing his face in the photos where it shouldn't be a focus is very deliberate.i wouldn't even mind if he gave me stupid/silly/funny expressions. i just don't care about his duckface tier expression since i already know how he looks like in real life.
>>28579135Unswiping 500000000 times is the price you pay for putting yourself out there. Remember, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take!
>>28579138The issue is that I probably won't escalate because I'm unsure about wanting to be in a relationship, and I haven't had a wholehearted crush on a girl in years
>>28579130Ok, I am venting about my own gender here I guess? and other women too?>she has roommate, bpd, alcoholic>calls her telling her to go to a friends, it's 2:30am>"no">I ask her to make sure that her roommate isn't getting raped or anything by this 'friend'>she says no no he has a gf he's a good guy>gets call at 3 am from the friend>"she's drunk and she can't get home, need help"So now my girlfriend has to go walk, thankfully only five minutes, but still at 3 am to their place. They make her fucking stay there 40 minute 'looking for her stuff'. I told her just tell them fuck off if she's not willing to go with you, but she's too kind.And then she texts me and tells me "I have to stay. He's making moves on her."Like what the actual fuck? Even this 'chill guy', who is dating someone, is trying to take advantage of the crossfaded mentally ill girl who is his friend? FUCK
>>28579141it's a normal response when you're uncomfortable taking a selfie but if he's deliberately taking selfies all the time he should stop because he clearly doesn't like doing it
How degenerate are the women here?
>>28579153about as degenerate as the men
Men, I know what you're doing when you walk directly behind me on the stairs.
How bad should I feel about never dating a Latina?Is that racist?
I sometimes wonder if people think I'm a cool guy.Like, a guy I barely care about knew my name. That means I'm cool, right?
Today I will give at least one actual advice.
Is it sometimes okay to grope women or stand really close to them if you're horny enough. Guys in the pornos do it all the time
>>28579161Yeah, staring anywhere but your ass because that'd be awkward
>>28579157Is that just JH or include the other femanons?
>>28579130>Then go read slow burn fanfiction!No I want them to already be in love
>>28579076>They're a bit more sensitive than the rest of the glans, so focusing on them with fingers or a tongue can be a bit too stimulating sometimes...Hot as fuck
>>28579124familiar yes,theyre often poor father figures from what i have observed. most of the times it seems abusive.I sometimes want to tell them they can do better but its not really my place.>>28579130>so all we can do is go with the best option today.its like being a brilliant employee making juts a bit over what you made starting 10 years ago even though the market rate for your skills is 3-4x
>>28579161I'm looking directly at your ass and getting a semi in my pants
>>28579161I'm not.And usually I just slow my pace when I feel like I'm "following" women
>>28579151Okay she's home safe and sound now.
>>28579150Also been in that situation too. I can't speak for you, but for me there was a big degree of apathy. I had other things going on and I allowed myself to use that as an excuse not to date. I had passing crushes here and there that I didn't act on.Then I had a girl that I was sort of into just kind of come after me, and I had to swallow my shit and ask her out because I don't want to die alone. It didn't work out (not because either of us didn't try) but it definitely stirred me into action. I think, all in all, there's a big component of "use it or lose it" when it comes to romance. I don't mean you dick literally won't work. I just mean I think you can very literally train yourself not to be interested in other people, and that can be quite harmful if you allow yourself to stay stuck there.Try dating someone and see what happens, basically.
>>28579161Then stop wearing clothes that show off your ass
>>28579161You like it, don't lie.
>>28579029We can judge how good your best pictures look relative to others' best pictures.If you want to have imposter syndrome, go ahead. But ask yourself why you're trying to get yourself rated if you're only going to doubt the results.
>>28579163you're the town fool
>>28579161I feel really awkward and try to put my head down, unless it's my gf in which case I LEER
>>28579171idk who the fuck you are or if there are many anons always chirping about this "JH" figure but shut the fuck up already. this chick isnt gonna date you and you need therapy. i see someone mention fucking "JH" like a psychotic stalker fuck every thread. stop obsessing over fucking anonymous people.
>>28579157How many women here spent all day schlicking?
>>28579152thanks, it's true he doesn't like taking photos which is why i was confused when he attaches selfies. maybe he just thinks he needs to for some reason... even though i consistently show him examples of how to take a photo of a cat or a thing without sticking my face in it.
Women, these are the guys telling men that you're all worthless whores, thoughts?
>>28579193slave mentality
>>28579070That's you c-c-c-c-counter breaking a mog attempt
>>28579147I also don't want to swipe on short term hookup people though, wish tinder let you filter those out.
>>28579182>Try dating someone and see what happens, basically.Date who though?
>>28579161i really dont look but i always feel like the girl thinks i am. idk how to tell a girl im not interested.girls are so fucking cocky and conceited.
>>28579197nice camaro, gramps
>>28579194Are you just jealous of the attention she gets?
>>28579207Go out, meet people, download a dating app, whatever you want to do. Then the next time you have even a passing "oh she's cute and funny" interest in a girl, ask her out and see what shakes loose.
>>28579188Everyone has to have great pics though right?
>>28579214no it just makes me cringe so hard. go orbit on discord or some shit.
>>28579197"Men" who follow these people deserve to be miserable.
>>28579093>I wish normal people had better hobbies and interests besides smoking weed and drinking alcohol.Those with hobbies often meet partners through them. What is left is those whose hobbies are inert.
If everyone with a body count higher than 7 died who would die more men or women?
>>28579225Huh, good question lol
i redownloaded hinge and this girl liked my profile back in september. would it be weird to message her now. im so nervous because shes so cute.
>>28579215Not him but dating apps fucking suckI'd rather not date than date the types of people on those apps
>>28579109Trading up is a double edged sword. Where does the other side of that blade stick?
>>28579230what's the worst that could happen
>>28579080>Do they talk about their female friends around you?Yeah, sure they talk about their other friends. But it always seems quite passing like "oh my friend did such and such" as a little interjection, not something I can really be like "wow she sounds cute I wanna meet her".
>>28579225menmost women have low body counts actually. they settle faster. guys are generally whores.
>>28579225On earth: menOn 4chan: women
>>28579230>You message her and she ignores you>You don't message her and she ignores you>You message her and she messages backIt's one of these three things.
>>28579153Personally, not much.
My bodycount is 1 and my girlfriend's bodycount is 2.How common is this?Am I weird for only having had sex with one woman?
>>28579215>Go outAgain where?>dating appNo. They're rigged against guys and the girls there are whores>Then the next time you have even a passing "oh she's cute and funny" interest in a girl, ask her out and see what shakes loose.Maybe, but I haven't even felt that in a while
>>28579225Men. 4chan focuses on the few sluts in the world, but in general men are more promiscuous than women.
>>28579218What's your goal when you ask a question like that?If you want me to tell you you're dog butt ugly I can do that, but you talk like a grownup rather than framing your need for shame like it's a need for advice.
>>28579249except far less men can manage to successfully be promiscuous
>>28579247Just cheat on her so it evens outShe'll respect you for it, she knows how weird it is to be the woman in the relationship and have more sexual partners than the man
>>28579197I don't care about the opinion of bald men.>>28579247Not particularly.
>>28579235i guess she unmatches me.idk what to say?"I stopped using this app for some months but if youre still single id like to talk you out"
>>28579254Bro. That shit is all in your head. I'm telling you. I lost my virginity at 28, I'm 30 now and have had sex with 4 women. It's not that hard.
>>28579197>Women, these are the guys telling men that you're all worthless whores, thoughts?Cool car
Women only think men are bigger whores than women because they don't notice men below 7/10
>>28579251I'm genuinely asking how good an average looking person's best pics are
womenhow do you feel when people glance at your ass and tits, does it make a difference if you're having a conversation with him? What about a solid 2 second stare.mendo you think it seems gay when a random man in public smiles at you or tries to strike up a conversation
>>28579263Oh. They're kind of shitty because the average person has a passable but unremarkable look to them. Almost as though they are average.And yes, that is my subjective experience, sample size of 1 source: my emotions.
>>28579254youre wrong.it seems like that when youre in youre early 20s because its really easy for a girl in her early 20s to have sex.
>>28579194I want moids ITT to pick a different femanon to obsess over. Just try it for a single day.
>>28579248You gotta be willing to help yourself.
>>28579267M. I don't think that's a thing that happens to me often enough for me to say, but no.
>>28579267>men>do you think it seems gay when a random man in public smiles at you or tries to strike up a conversationYes
>>28579215>Then the next time you have even a passing "oh she's cute and funny" interest in a girlYou met the cute and funny ones on VRchat, not tinder.
>>28579267>do you think it seems gay when a random man in public smiles at you or tries to strike up a conversationnope. i like these kind of people. i used to be one of these kinds of people in college and it helped me make a lot of friends.
>>28579218No, many people really hate all their photos
>>28579269So it's not normal to look like a 9-10/10 in your best pics and look bad in your worst pics? Okay then
>>28579263How can anyone possibly answer this question??
>>28579273i am convinced its just one guy that does it
>>28579225>If everyone with a body count higher than 7 died who would die more men or women?Good question, I _think_ men because isn't the mean # of sexual partners for people overall like 6, where men have higher variance than women?
>>28579282Alright then>>28579286By looking at the best pictures of average looking people
>>28579185Literally anything other than a puffy princess dress “shows off” my ass.
>>28579273who, you?
Why do women hate my cargo pants so much?
>>28579267I feel a surge of smugness and I feel really attractiveMen have no idea what it’s like to distract people just by their presence
>>28579247>My bodycount is 1 and my girlfriend's bodycount is 2.>How common is this?Those exact numbers: 1 in 200 to 1 in 50Numbers invoking a similar emotion to that: Probs like 1 in 3 honestly. Feeling inadequate about sexual history is quite common.
>>28579293
>>28579293Is that your excuse for your skinny jeans and yoga pants?
What's your favorite ke$ha song?
>>28579288Believing that helps me sleep better at night, so I choose to believe it.
>>28579284>So it's not normal to look like a 9-10/10 in your best pics and look bad in your worst pics?Not to me it's not. I will give you that people can vary by a good two points based on how tired they are alone, but they wouldn't move between a 9/10 and average.
>>28579309Who?
>>28579307No, I don’t own any of those. It’s simply a fact. Even skirts show it. And depending on my top, that can emphasize my butt too :/
>>28579311That's weird because I'm a 4 in some pics and a 10 in some, mostly selfies for both
>>28579298they’re jealous of your pockets
>>28579161Yes of course I'm looking at your ass. What are you going to do about it?
>>28579300>Men have no idea what it’s like to distract people just by their presenceCertain girls get mesmerized but it's really a specific type and they tend to be a bit too young I would be embarrassed to act on their attraction
>>28579296Not an option, I’m not well known enough. There’s plenty of other namefags to pick from, so just give someone else a try.
>>28579312She made tik tok
>>28579288i am convinced it's her that does it
>>28579313Oh wow that sounds soooo terriblestart posting pics already so I can stay aroused
>>28579323It still happens while she’s banned though
>>28579309I'm not a connoisseur but Take It Off.
>>28579254Here's my logic.Heterosex usually involves 1 man and 1 woman, threesomes aren't popular enough to skew it.Therefore the mean # of sexual partners will be the same for both sexes.Now my biased as fuck memory vaguely recalls that the average # is somewhere around 5-6 for human adults.The next question is: Are there more hypersuccessful men or more hypersuccessful women? Well, if the theory of Chad has any weight to it, the men have more of those hypersuccessfuls, which means higher variance.This assumes the distribution is normal, ofc.
>>28579280I meet them IRL through work or friends, I don't know what you're on about.
>>28579313jesus christ your pathetic. go post your tits on soc if you need to fish for compliments
>>28579267>how do you feel when people glance at your ass and titsMildly annoyed because it means they aren't paying attention to their job, but for the most part I ignore it.
Have you ever questioned openly questioned a man's sexuality or the sexuality of men in general? What was your intention? Do girls do this to bully or is it some kind of flirtatious taunting?
>>28579315Then that means the way I rate pictures and the way others rate pictures is different.
why do I keep hearing people whining about girl clothes not having pockets? just buy pants with pockets, not to mention women get to carry a purse
>>28579354You could carry a purse if you wanted to
>swipe a few times on tinder>run out of matchesThis is what happens when you swipe on 25000 people in 2 weeks. ffs
>>28579328don't play stupid
>>28579298They look bad. It's fine if you want to wear them.
>>28579309>What's your favorite ke$ha song?FTimber.
>>28579342Who mentioned tits? You’re weird.
>>28579346what job?
>>28579364>timberjh moment
>>28579348There's a guy at work I see them do it to. It's because he's too into fashion and gives off serious feminine vibes. He legitimately seems to be straight, but he's as feminine as they come in the personality department, and I can tell you for a fact the girls aren't flirting with him.
>>28579354Even when pants do have pockets, they’re less useful because they conform to our curves. It’s hard to fit a phone around my ass. Men can just drop it straight down into a pocket.
>>28579354Women pockets are very shallow compared to men pockets. Also dresses and skirts don't typically have them.
>>28579367The habit of men staring takes place in a broad range of situations and a broad range of tasks they're meant to be performing. Whether it's scanning the groceries or playing a turn of Scrabble.
>>28579366can it, fatass
>>28579360From my time here, I’m convinced women don’t know how to ban evade, so you’re overestimating them
>>28579346what sized tits and ass you have? what about the tummy? thighs? Do you have well developed calves?
>>28579357>You could carry a purse if you wanted tohttps://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1678420808977808.webm
>>28579348>Have you ever questioned openly questioned a man's sexuality or the sexuality of men in general?Yes> What was your intention?Remind OP that he's being a fag>Do girls do this to bully or is it some kind of flirtatious taunting?No, OP was being a fag.
>>28579361What exactly looks good?
>>28579249All the fags would die but straight men need to have sex with a woman to have sex with a woman
How many hobbies should a man have? e.g. is it bad to have one main hobby that takes up 90% of my hobby time? Does that look obsessive and boring to women?
>>28579369What's the easiest way to exploit your obsessive compulsive disorder for (You)s, anon?
>>28579267F, it depends on what I’m wearing obviously. If it’s a low-cut top, I feel good because that’s the behavior I wanted to cause. If I’m trying to dress modestly, it’s irritating because they seem like they have low standards and would stare at any vaguely boob-shaped outline, and it feels like a waste of effort when I DO try to show off.
>>28579373I get the feeling they're trying to rile me up
>>28579383>Sex with a womanWow what an impossible feat. You realize at least 15 billion hetero sexual acts happened in the last 100 years to produce all these people right? It's not that crazy.
>>28579377Trying to picture me in your mind so you can masturbate is the habit of an unsatisfied and low value man.You shall not receive answers.But yes, I bike ride. Calves strong.
>>28579338But 7 is regular success for women not hyper success
>>28579267Men don't look at me because they think I'm 15. I don't really care I've never been approached in my entire life.
>>28579389>I get the feeling they're trying to rile me upI doubt there's any intent behind it.
>>28579392>unsatisfiedAnd who's fault is that? bitch
>>28579309your love is my drug or Die Young
>>28579392>I bike rideThat’s more than enough info to form a flattering picture of you in my head, don’t worry
>>28579401>your love is my drugThat's it for me. What a good song.
Do you keep up with pop culture? popular movies shows and celebrities? do you prefer guys who have things in common with you or someone mysterious?
>>28579393Ignoring threesomes and homosexuality, the sexes will have the same average and thus the same "above average / below average"._If_ it's easier for women to meet that average, then that means our distribution is less spiky. And given that the average is below 7, higher variance = more deaths.
>>28579348There was a girl who was flirting with me hard for a couple weeks but I rebuked her advances because I'm scared and she asked if I was gay.
>>28579380Fitted clothes that don't cut your legs so you don't look like a manlet.
>>28579388Sorry that we're aroused by anything boob shaped
>>28579402>That’s more than enough info to form a flattering picture of you in my head, don’t worryNice.You're not the first anon I replied to, right?
>>28579375>>28579360
>>28579411No especially given how much of it is just nigger worship now
>>28579411I don't keep up, I don't know the names of almost any celebrities. My bf doesn't either.
>>28579386>How many hobbies should a man have?1 or 2.If he has like 5 I'll think he has ADHD and I want nothing to do with that.
>>28579414it usually happens to me when I wallflower at a social event or if I'm only talking to one or two people because of social anxiety. girls will come up and ask me questions and then call me gay for whatever answer I gave them and then I take a step in and say in a low voice "I promise you that I'm not", I feel like I could have fucked her but my sisters were crashing at my place so I couldn't have brought her home
>>28579400You really need to learn how to act normal.I know you're not normal, but you need to learn how to act.
>>28579409i want a yandere girl to spontaneously kiss me to this song
>>28579413The Chad theory is that Chad skews the averages for both semesters by having sex with lots of women ergo multiple women have above average bodycounts because of Chad.
>>28579429Why do you care?If you didn't want to fuck them, it makes no difference to you if they think you're gay.If you did want to fuck them then you'd take the opportunity.
>>28579386As many as he wants, I don't really care.
>>285794361 guy having all the sex makes the variance higher for men and there's no way this distribution ain't a normal distribution considering how many random variables go into sexual success.
>>28579431acting normal is so fucking boring though I'm a freak I should be jailed
>>28579438>If you did want to fuck them then you'd take the opportunity.I like to toy and play around with them first, I don't like approaching
>>28579446Your handler skipped your meds today, huh.
>>28579442Okay so I can continue playing warhammer all weekend?
>>28579416I'm 6'3Nothing I wear makes me look short
>>28579453Dumbass question because obviously you can do that regardless of what women think of you and what women think of you will not change your capacity to play warhammer.Ask your actual question.
>>28579451I have no handler I am a wild and free human, what women fear the most
>>28579456Do women think boys who play warhammer are lame?
>>28579457Obsessive compulsiveness is not freedom. Being shacked by your sexual neediness and your inability to control your impulses makes you a slave. A slave with no master, of course. But still a slave.
jeff buckley or elizabeth fraser?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnPvnIKCJYA
i have a gf and i love her a lot but ill be honest. she's fit and has prob the best body with her genetics she can get but she has acups. Ive always wanted to motorboat a big pair of natural boobies since i was a child. ive always been tits>ass.My gf is perfect in every other metric though and i dont want to ever leave her. should i just get her pregnant so she can get pregnancy boobs? will they get big enough?
>>28579115>smirkwait a minute is it this face? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs8kMrnbp2M&list=PLnif9Rfb5Adk2esXx_y6XenI7Ac85zSWS
>>28579418Nope, just a lurker who loves what biking does to the female body.
>>28579461Depends on whether you're enthusiastic and commanding about it.In my experience, the majority of nerds don't express strong feelings one way or another about their hobbies, so it's neither a good nor a bad thing.You get the occasional gamer who knows what pride is and how to show it through his or her gaming, though. Those are the best ones.
>>28579461Only if they’re obsessed with ORKZ
>>28579463jeff buckley was a mediocre singer who is popular because he was hot and died youngdon't know the woman.
>>28579466I can tell. You actually know how to express sexual interest: Horny, and not needy. It's good. Keep doing it.
>>28579464Pregnancy can stimulate a LOT of breast growth, but it’s unpredictable how much it will affect any given woman. It’s worth a try.
>>28579427Not the OP there, but what counts as a hobby? Do different sports count? Does frequenting ATOGA count? Other social media? There are a lot of things people spend a lot of time doing.
I don't understand women. Why is this something that turns them on but they swear up and down that big dicks are uninteresting?
>>28579464Buy estrogen on the internet and feed it to her.
>>28579473Not your validation dispenser you fat cunt
>>28579468I think I might be a schizoid because my interests and passion is mostly private, I feel like I live in my own world and I'm a guest in the world of others. I don't share the trappings of my homeland with outsiders
>>28579443People can't have negative sex anon.
>>28579482based
>>28579479>but what counts as a hobby?Huh. Guess there isn't a rigorous definition.Some combination of hours spent per week & emotional energy invested in the thing, but I don't know exact numbers.Housework isn't a hobby, though you spend enough time doing it, because you get no value or worth from it.But being a fucking zombie for the latest looter shooter does count as a hobby, despite the lack of emotions.So I don't know.
>>28579470U don't like cocteau twins? Jeffs got lots of soul, powerful voice. It's fascinating to listen to his fathers lyrics and contrast them with his. Interesting portrait terrible fatherhood and what it can produce
>>28579480Lol that was me. Active lifestyles are appealing, I don’t think that’s controversial? And I love dicks, so…
>>28579486>People can't have negative sex anon.But what if you could.
I'm taking my crush for a ride tomorrow. We're gonna stop by some stores. She's been enjoying my company and has been hanging out with me a lot more lately, but she rejected me before (nearly a decade ago by now), so I know there isn't a chance. Fuck man, I just want to take her to a nice expensive restaurant and adore her. But even if she accepts the offer, it wouldn't be healthy because I'd be playing with the idea of me and her being together when it isn't possible. We'll probably go back to my house and hang out with each other too, which is just more salt on the wound. /ATOGA/ has told me to cherish this friendship with her because a friendship like this doesn't happen often, while looking for someone else to be romantically involved with, but I swear, it's fucking hard. Crushes don't go away that easy, and being so close to her is like daggers in my chest.
>girl bumps into me at the bar and then looks over at me with a smile>how's it going? I'm anon>she looks forward with a grimace and says nothingWomen, what the FUCK
>>28579498Fuck you I literally thought about it all day wondering wtf you were talking about. If it's because of the lifestyle I guess that makes sense but I was imagining you were getting horned up over a guy because he had room for children's toys in his car.
>>28579497top comment on that video says the uploader killed himself so I'm not seeing the appeal of this soft weepy bullshit
>>28579504That friendship is a hallucination. you think she's doing her job as friend since you're biased. And bias is free as air.
>>28579515killing yourself is based though
>>28579516I understood everything up until hallucination
>>28579515Lol anon don't you understandIt represents the guy you're replying to's soul.He has the soul of a starving underappreciated depressed artist.In reality he actually doesn't create a damn thing but he's an artist I tell you. Tortured from within! Deep!
>>28579522Be more subtle.
>>28579161Oh hush, you do the same dam thing.
>>28579523I've produced quite a lot actually. It's shit but I still produced it. I've made an album for myself and then recorded and produced an acquaintances album for money. I'll finish my Unity game in a couple years and it'll have its own qualities
>>28579530https://youtu.be/afkN9H9aLow
Why don't mods and janneis delete obvious troll spam threads? The guy posts "how do i sleep with 18 year olds as a 30 year old man" almost every time a thread isn't up
>>28579309>>28579401When we would take road trips as a kid my sister would make us put on ke$ha and I would sing your love is my drug in a really obnoxious voice.like "YOUR LOIVE YOUR LOIVE YOUR LOIVE IS MY DROYYYG", and she would get really pissed
>>28579506women complain about men not wanting to talk to them at work but this is exactly what happens when i say something like "good morning" to a female coworker my age.everyone else returns the greeting. young women are just weird
>>28579534Everyone has a job, mine pays my tuition so it kills two birds with one stone
>>28579537It's not trolling if it's schizophrenia / obsessive compulsive disorder / bpd.It may be a shitpost, but it's not intentionally shit, it's just the human trying to human at other humans but not doing a very good job ;(
>>28579546thanks for sharing because literally no one asked...fucking autistnever reply to me with this kind of cringe again
>>28579525Be subtle with taking her out to places? Last few times we hung out were by her decisions. I've had to restrain myself from showing I still like her. Also, the friendship to her is real. She keeps talking about how much she cherishes me and how I'm the most important person to her in her life outside of her family.I've been friendzoned BIGLY. I hate to admit it, but the friendship on my end is probably artificial. I'm still clinging onto subconscious cope.
>>28579556Alright, that was pretty subtle.
>>28579537they have more important things to do, like ban me when I steal the atoga first post
I am really uncomfortable with people looking at me. It doesn't matter what the reason or intention is, having eyes on me makes me so damn nervous. On my own I am so confident but I become a nervous wreck around people, I always attributed it to anxiety, social anxiety, or agoraphobia. And sometimes it seems to disappear, those days I am either in a really good mood or perhaps so numb to everything. For example I know I excel at many things but give me an audience of even one person and I fuck it all up. School presentations, concerts, social outings, auditions all end up this way. Is this relatable to anyone else and really what is wrong with me?
>>28579567it's stage 3 rectal autism and I'm afraid there is no effective treatment.
>>28579567Submissive behavior. Unironically practice eye contact or the alphas are gonna eat you up
>>28579567>Is this relatable to anyone elseYes, it's a habit.1. If you're making excuses to continue said habit, cease2. If you're feeding the habit by doing dumbass shit that it'd be easier to not do, cease.3. Expose yourself to weaker or easier to defeat versions of that habit in controlled situations.Choose to not feel that discomfort (or choose to feel less of it) in the easy mode situation.4. Repeat until you git gud at not feeling the unwanted emotion5. Then try the same self control in actual high stress situations once you're good enough in the controlled ones>What's wrong with meYour brain is good at training neural pathways, attitudes, connections, pattern recognition, and behavioural routines.In your case, you're having it train an anxious reaction. It is now very good at the anxious reaction.To undo it, train a conflicting reaction, such as calm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rVjXT9uiuU
Does anyone actually know any “chads” in real life? One of my co workers who I have become somewhat close with is literally a stereotypical chad; Big buff blonde white guy with insane confidence and a very magnetic frame. When I first met him, all I could think was “wow this guy is the epitome of douche,” Then we actually started working together more and we ended up being extremely similar and we’re friends now. Despite the fact that he definitely embraces the inner douche, I can actually see right through him now. He’s actually a very good dude and he cares a lot about his friends. Has anyone ever met someone like this and then actually got to know them and they’re actually decent people? I used to envy the fact that his guy pulled so many beautiful women but now I see why and I respect it. He’s just super confident
>>28579584Hi, I'm me.
Femanons what would be faster? A dog sized Green Day Gecko or a Dog Sized Green Anole?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4k2ZZLqcwg
stop posting this 90s indie pop crap you might be 19 but I haven't been in a long fucking time
>>28579603I'm 30. What do you listen to? Mature music for mature listeners? Pathetic
>>28579584I've known a couple yeah. Most recently one of my (now former) coworkers, he was a former baseball player, tall, attractive, charismatic, decently intelligent too. Like when he talked everyone in the group would stop talking and listen. Cool guy though.Another guy in high school I think too but the only things I remember about him were that he was on the football team, in some of my honors classes, and a pretty nice guy.
>>28579572Not even the first time someone suggested autism, but I would be high functioning at worst. I really think this is more trauma related, I think it's cptsd, I have tons of other symptoms for that and a lot of trauma. >>28579574You're right and I am strong minded and always stand up for myself even through anxiety. Plus I am a cute girl so it doesn't change peoples perception of me much... seeing me as weak and incapable. >>28579578I don't I am constantly doing exposure therapy. I worked in roles where I had to talk to people and be in charge of many responsibilities. I have learned to deal with the anxiety but it has never fully gone away. I don't know how to really calm down besides mantras, letting it out, music, and water.
Lol I'm not going to stop being needy until I get my monthly fuck, sorry not sorry womens I don't care if it's a turn off
>>28579617>I have learned to deal with the anxiety but it has never fully gone away. I don't know how to really calm down besides mantras, letting it out, music, and water.Probs the best you're gonna get if you're blessed with one of those bullshit brains that keeps doing an emotion even if you try not to.Might as well take an inventory of if you have any excuses rattling around.Back when you thought your emotion was justified, what justifications did you tend to use? Do you still use them?Or, if you NEVER thought it was justified, what rationalisations or excuses does it try to insert into your brain?Do you have a self-esteem and self-image you can rely on? (E.g. base your self-worth on something you already do, or something you already are). A lot of anxiety issues arise from failing to have self-worth, and so thus being excessively invested in worth from others.
>>28579617>Plus I am a cute girlYou said that way too nonchalantly, but whatever. Everyone is genderless to me on ATOGA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBENPJQGgco
Why do autistic women have an easier time in life than autistic men?
>>28579630They get more training
>>28579630I'm not sure that's true.What evidence do you have to support your belief?I thought sperg guys tended to get paid higher and get more recognised for their hobbies than sperg girls.
>>28579619based
>>28579584Yeah my crush but he just wants to fuck not date so that sucks. My bf is alright though, semi-chad but i need to break it off because i'm not happy. I disgress though
>>28579630Autistic boobs are still boobs.
>>28579630women get socialized whether they want to or not. men are allowed to become isolated.
>>28579632Just because Zuckerberg got rich doesn't mean the rest of us do
>>28579630In what regard? Romance? Women have it easier across the board when it comes to that.
>>28579640You have received a reply to your post. Yay!
Women imagine the people who swipe right on you on tinder and how low quality 80% of them are. Now remove the 20% that are good and 79% of the 80% bad that swiped right.That's online dating for men.
when should i start dating. like i never really started looking since college and i just realized its been 4 years and all ive been doing is working. idk how to even start now.
>>28579661So why do you bother with it?To me it sounds like that'd be too much work, not enough payoff.>>28579664>when should i start dating.You should remain single.
>>28579661man here.ive swiped right on like 2 girls. swipe left on majority.of the girls who swiped right on me, i swiped right on 20% of them...maybe less.
>>28579654Romance is pretty much everything because guys will take care of them. A woman never has to go hungry, broke, cold, or be alone. If they get raped or beaten unless it's a rare case where they where stuffed into a van or something or were manipulated by a HIGHLY intelligent psychopath (which is less of an exscuse than the later because good peole ted to have a sense for these things) then it's only because they chose to be alone with the type of guy who would rape or beat themI'm not sexist or angry at women at all. Just calling a spade a spade
>>28579621>Back when you thought your emotion was justified, what justifications did you tend to use? When I would be myself people judged me, so I either adjusted to socialize or isolated, mainly isolating because I loved how I was and didn't want to change. Inguess knowing you often won't be accepted you psych yourself out for things that matter, like a presentation at school. >Do you still use them?Idk I don't think about why it happens anymore>Or, if you NEVER thought it was justified, what rationalisations or excuses does it try to insert into your brain?My brain tells me to just have confidence and do what you want because you can get by on that and anyone who doesn't approve doesn't matter, but I think the nerve come from thinking I am not actually safe. >Do you have a self-esteem and self-image you can rely on? (E.g. base your self-worth on something you already do, or something you already are). I have high self esteem and love myself, I can say I was beat down by my own family constantly, so anything I failed at would be another reason for them to criticize me, and abuse me so I felt unsafe and unworthy to them. It's strange because I abaolutely love myself and always have, I have some back and forth with feeling pretty or ugly but I love who I am, and I choose myself over others. You know what maybe it all comes down to the fact I never cares for approval and society hates that and threatened me to care about to the point I felt unsafe to love myself as I am. Which is crazy, but insightful. What a nice therapy session lol.
>>28579668What other choice do I have?I don't know any other way to meet women especially available women
>>28579668Because there's virtually no where else to meet women.
>>28579654LifeThey're more accepted in all aspects not just dating
>>28579668>You should remain single.why. im starting to feel like i need to start looking because it will take some years before marriage/kids.
>>28579680>>28579679I didn't ask "Is this the most effective way to meet women", I'll assume it's true.I asked why you do it if the payoff isn't worth the effort.
I am going to fuck you
How turned off would you be if a girl started rambling about physics/chemistry/biology shit?
>>28579679And the choice you have is to simply not do it. Do anything else with your time. Climb a hill. Read a book. Play a game. Laugh at memes.
>>28579689Not at all.
>>28579689Depends
>>28579692>>28579693But would you enjoy it?
>>28579678Oh, so you keep repeating babby stuff.Move out of mom and dad's place then remind yourself daily that your old habits no longer apply. Whenever anxiety tries to happen to you, remind it that it's solving a situation (mom and dad) that you've already solved.I find that helps a little bit.
>>28579689My penis would shrivel up and fall off.
>>28579691What happens when I'm 50 and I'm destined to die alone?
>>28579699>But would you enjoy it?Probably.
>>28579499I'd guess I'd only have a little of it. High tier virgin.
Girl:>has many tattoos >posts pictures of herself online flaunting her tits and ass >has a tongue piercing >goes to the club every weekend Is she a hoe?
>>28579702Then you're destined to die alone.Do you resent that fate enough to make tinder worth it? I'd argue no. Don't waste your time.
>>28579699Depends on the level of conversation, I guess. If she's talking above my ability to follow, probably not. If she's a hobbyist, probably.
>>28579699I'd be happy a girl was talking to meAnd ecstatic that it's not Kardashian related
https://youtu.be/y4PZ9me28VM?list=OLAK5uy_kR07Ln8EUJEbge6ldLhnKLDVBFsRhtw3w
>>28579689>How turned off would you be if a girl started rambling about physics/chemistry/biology shit?Did I ask?If I ask then I'm interestedIf I didn't ask I'll simply tell her to talk about what I'm interested in.If she IGNORES that request then yeah I'll think of her as a shitter and lose interest.
>>28579707You're saying that I'm better off wasting my life? If i'm 50 and single there's literally no reason for me not to kill myselfNone
Femanons, how big of a deal breaker is it when a guy has bad posture? Does it ruin an otherwise attractive guy?
>>28579706Who cares, hit it or pass it.
Is it a red flag if a man is openly cultivating wickedness
>>28579700I am an adult living on my own over ten years. I do not speak to my family anymore. Remember that assuming things about people makes you a fool :)
>>28579717>If i'm 50 and single there's literally no reason for me not to kill myself>NoneI don't share your attitude and I find your attitude to be retarded make-myself-sad bullshit.You're honestly telling me that a lifetime of videogames, memes, or whatever else has NO value to you?I can't relate.
>>28579722You're desperate for my attention so you're roleplaying as the people I'm talking with, but you don't know how to do it properly.
>>28579689Depends on the physics/chemistry/biology shit. I'm interested in that kind of stuff but if you're just recounting what I learnt in 10th grade I'm going to get pretty bored.
>>28579718Disgusting, how out of shape they must be, with a hunchback and protruding stomach. Ick.
>>28579509Lol, I mean that’s part of it, the bike rack can be for children’s bikes too. It’s an Active Dad car, and I like that.
>>28579709>>28579720>>28579723>>28579727Same person
>>28579708Would you at least be interested in being able to follow what she's talking about? i.e. her area of research/what she does for a living.
>>28579733nope
>>28579537>browsing the /adv/ catalogCouldn’t be me
>>28579729I am in terrible shape but my posture is impeccable thank you very much.
>>28579733You're>>28579709>>28579720And you want me to reply to you.
>>28579590I don’t know what an anole is, so gecko wins by default
>>28579737Huh, guess I'm wrong.Sorry.You know this guy?
>>28579630I don’t believe the premise to this question is true, so I will regard it as flamebait and not reply seriously.
>>28579745I am this guy
>>28579723>You're honestly telling me that a lifetime of videogames, memes, or whatever else has NO value to you?YesWell I don't even have video games
>>28579753Honestly I can't relate to that mindset.Why don't you just have value in what you already have?Sounds easier than living a miserable life or trawling through tinder thots.
>>28579689I would zone out and focus on her pretty lips moving instead, and my iron would become the big iron
>>28579718It activates my mommy instincts and I want to march over and straighten them out.
>>28579763>them*goes on a multi-paragraph rant for literal hours while insisting I don’t care*
Should I expect my gf to laugh at my memes and get my jokes(play on words)?
if I continue acting like a horny creep will some girl come along and fix me eventually?
>>28579758Because my life is just full of emptiness
>>28579748How is it not true?
>>28579734To some extent, sure. I'm interested in most fields, and I'll at least like to know what she does. I'm just saying that if you're talking about unexpected optimal measurement protocols in Bell's inequality violation experiments I may just nod along and let you speak.I will say that there is an element of inadequacy since I feel like I'm supposed to make some sort of great discovery but ended up not going any direction to do so, but that's a me problem and I'd get rid of it if I were dating someone who were in that field.
>>28579783It’s so vague that it’s meaningless. You’re essentially asking “why did I decide this weird, unprovable thing about groups of unknown size?”
>>28579780>Because my life is just full of emptinessIn my life I enjoy posting on 4chan.So I ask the question. What difference between us causes you to claim this is "emptiness", whereas I wake up enthusiastic to post here.
>>28579785If you don't mind me asking, what's your degree?
>>28579795you are mentally retarded whereas he is not
>>28579809Like I said, nothing worth talking about. Linguistics and Math.
MenIs it uncomfortable to sleep on your stomach because of your dick?
>>28579810>YOU ADAPT TO YOUR SITUATION SO YOU ARE WORSE THAN SOMEONE WHO FAILS TOLolNo, you're the one in the wrong. Sit.
>>28579816if it gets hard yeah but otherwise it's more uncomfy to have pressure on ym stomach and face
>>28579815How is holding two degrees not worth talking about? Most people in those fields aren't expected to make discoveries anyway, at least not in the same sense as you would in the hard sciences.
I deserve women being obsessed with me
>>28579816>Is it uncomfortable to sleep on your stomach because of your dick?Nope, it's because of my airway and lungs.Can live without dickcan't live without air
>>28579825whatever you say, 4chong enthusiast
>>28579829>How is holding two degrees not worth talking about?Do you show how those degrees make you a better lover? Do you show how the skills or preferences which led you to earn those degrees make you more attracted to your partner, or more attractive to your partner?If not then your pitch does not match your audience.
>>28579829I mean, it's worth talking about in the sense that it's interesting, but it's not something I'm going to make an interesting discovery in, especially now that I'm in industry rather than academia. I just feel like it's a waste to not.
>>28579816No, the only thing uncomfortable about sleeping on my stomach is waking up because I can’t breathe
>>28579840Bout fucking time you figured out how to not push your bullshit.Thanks, you're doing well.
>>28579845I forgot what you were even talking about.
>>28579850Me: Chooses to be happy with what I haveYou: Perpetually asshurt because you lack that skill, coping by pretending that your misery is actually the smart choice.
Women,Why knowingly hold double standards?What is the benefit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_PEGsCxMb4
>>28579689i have a gf so i wouldnt be turned on by you but yes a nerdy girls are more cute to me.My gf was a neuroscience major at harvard. shes now in medical school. Im a pretty nerdy guy myself (chemical engineer undergrad, CS for my masters) so i can generally follow along.
>>28579862>Why knowingly hold double standards?You call them double standards since you don't know which metrics motivate them.When you understand that the function of a man and the function of a woman are different, then you understand that "Be good at your function" is the same standard.
>>28579863What the fuck
>>28579689Turned off that she's trying to act like a man which is dishonest and manipulation ''i'm one of the cool ones! Pick me''Women aren't interested in things. They're interested in people, mainly menIQ wise they aren't far lower than us, but they aren't intellectual or deep beings like men are. They exist for our pleasure, probably don't even have spiritual consciousness
>>28579869Watch it. It's a good mini-documentary.
>>28579873ATOGA men are pretty fucking hylic too bro."GUYS I CAN ONLY OBTAIN PURPOSE AND FULFILMENT THROUGH APPROVAL BY OTHER PEOPLE. MUH BASIC PHYSICAL NEEDS DEFINE ME!"
>>28579877All I hear is static when I watch the video
>>28579841They make you a more learned person. Being intelligent as well as a high achiever to earn two degrees in relatively difficult fields is, in fact, very attractive.>>28579842>I just feel like it's a waste to not.You said this was a you problem and I'm inclined to agree. There's no reason for you to feel this way as long as you enjoy what you're currently doing. You don't have to make discoveries, but if that's what you want to do, you have the rest of your life to do it.
I was reading a few years back how certain body building related compounds had caused a lot of men on a forum to have no libido while they were on it. Not just ED but no sexual desireThey reported having no interest or feeling no reason to interact with women. If they are truly equal to us, why would this be?
>>28579868So your gender's function is to kill your unborn children and criticize without aiding and "raise awareness" about shit everyone already knows about and keep antidepressant companies in business?
>>28579689Not a turn off, I'd enjoy bouncing theories and ideas back at herI'll be a little disappointed if none of her facts are even slightly controversial though.
>>28579887>They make you a more learned person. Being intelligent as well as a high achiever to earn two degrees in relatively difficult fields is, in fact, very attractive.1. Irrelevant2. You aren't as intelligent if you think if you fail to realise that.How do your skills apply to the task of being a lover or girlfriend? How will you use your intelligence to do girlfriend stuff?
>>28579886bruh...
>>28579890Your schizophrenic delusions and failure to take responsibility for your mental state is amusing.Keep exposing yourself like this every time you try to ask a question.
>>28579887Because if you act like your intelligence should be appreciated without even the slightest intent of how you're going to actually girlfriend with it, then you're not interested in girlfriending, you're not competent in girlfriending, you're interested in lodging your head up your ass and wanting value/respect without meriting it.
>>28579896I accept your concession and remain appalled by your hypocrisy.
It's really depressing when women do unattractive shit
>>28579912When I set the metrics it's not hypocrisy, it's inevitability.
>>28579816No. It doesn't crush my dick, it just puts enough pressure on it to lead to me waking up with a raging hardon.
>>28579732Thanks girl, I'm going to update my Hinge profile with a picture of me in front of the car when it's fully loaded. Try and capture some of those 27yo women who are ready to have kids but also still want to kayak.
>>28579914So you were bringing up schizophrenia as projection of your own dim awareness of your pathetically broken mental condition?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_PEGsCxMb4National League Championship Series
>>28579893You have a very neurotic view of love. Being a lover isn't a task, nor is an educational background a tool to apply to a relationship. I want the person I spend my life with to be someone I can comfortably share my passions with. The exchange of different interests between two people is part of the bonding that comes with relationships.>>28579907See above
>>28579934* You grasped at the straw* But it slipped through your fingers
>>28579938You're advertising your ability to waste money to obtain proofs of specialized intelligence as a feature in a relationship, and he's being neurotic?
>>28579938>It's YOUR job to like MY passions>I am under no obligation to say how I will be a part of yoursYou aren't a lover. You're selfish and I reject you.>>28579940I am the least neurotic person here. What I am, however, is the top percentile for argumentative and I thrive on clashing with exactly this type of delusion.
>>28579940It's not a waste of money if you enjoy it.
>>28579942sometimes people really just start arguments for no reason
>>28579887I mean, I don't *not* enjoy it, and certainly it pays better and is more enjoyable to me than research would be. I just feel like it's wasted potential. Like I don't want to just be someone who got a degree, got a job, and then did nothing notable with his life besides maybe eventually having kids.(Also, putting it out there that the other anons replying to you here are wack.)
>>28579944Most wastes of money in fact are enjoyable.What retard wastes their money on studying to enjoy it when they can study for free online?If you just wanted to fuck random college boys you could just go to Florida for spring break
>>28578619I was one of those no sex before marriage types but my gf pressured me into sex. Over time it started off small like kissing then making out but she then kept pushing for sex aggressively and even seeming upset or frustrated at me when I told her I wasn't ready or that I wanted to marry her first. One time she was doing her thigh grinding game but really wanted sex, when I was hesitant she eventually pulled this idea that maybe I didn't really love her too so I gave in.Now we've been having sex since but she gets annoyed when I bring up marriage or ask her if we are engaged now. Or if I bring it up while cuddling after sex she makes jokes that she loves me but that sluts like me don't deserve marriage.Think she is just messing with me and will want to get married eventually, she says she loves me all the time so I don't get whats the deal? I already have a good job and my own place so why doesn't she want me to say we are engaged?
>>28579952>wackYeah totally ungroovy of them sister
What is the best plastic dinosaur to use putting action figures on my wifes tits? I'm getting tired of the T-rex.
>>28579950Because I have a natural tendency towards correctness and informative-ness.I leverage this by blurting out useful information to people.Given that this tends to result in conflict, I learned pretty early on in life that one should love and value the conflict.And given how that attitude works with my behavioural routines, my emotional needs, my sense of safety, and serves as the most effective solution to most of my problems, I keep doing it.Over time, I have built an ego around these habits of clashing with the delusional, and I find worth and value in being who I am.Mostly because I choose to out of spite since I honestly fucking resent people who don't agree with me when I'm right.My personality is a solution to the problem of me preferring pattern recognition to social integration, and I fucking love it. I wouldn't really call it "no reason" given that it's the easiest solution to the problem that is fulfilment of my sense of ego.
>>28579956Check her phone for the other guys
>>28579954NTA but "studying for free online" misses all of the useful parts of studying at college since it has no functional use, and for anyone extraverted (such as myself) misses all of the enjoyable parts of studying too.
>>28579942>>It's YOUR job to like MY passions>>I am under no obligation to say how I will be a part of yoursExcept I love when people passionately ramble about their interests I know nothing about. I said as much with>The exchange of different interests between two peopleYou are neurotic and projecting onto me.
>>28579965You honestly fucking can't tell the difference between what you like and what other people like.Narcissist.
>>28579963So yes you are a slut who paid to fuck men who would have fucked you anyways, and you got useless degrees that required no actual study to begin with, where you just sat through classes and memorized a few key phrases for tests?
Femanons would you date a guy who is 25, in community college doesn’t have a job but is trying to get an internship in his major?
>even chatgpt can't explain how to flirtWOMEN WHAT THE HELL IS FLIRTING like what specific actions are flirting??
>>28579952You make money to live a better life and provide a better life for your future kids, what more justification do you need than that? No potential wasted there.>>28579954Online classes don't have lab experience.
>>28579956>has traditional values like no sex before marriage>doesn't propose like a traditional man would >ask her if we are engaged now ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>28579975I said NTA you neurotic autist. I'm a guy. Studying online:>does not usually get you a degree, and if it does, it's a degree half of hiring managers might not even consider legitimate>does not get you connections that can help you to find a job in the future>is freaking boring because basically all you're doing is watching youtube videos and writing essays about them but without any of the entertaining part of youtube videosThe point of college isn't to learn things. That's just a side benefit. And to extraverts like me, learning on my own is not fun.
>>28579974Where are you drawing any of this from? I just want to like what my partner likes, and my partner to at least tolerate what I like. Dunno why you're getting so worked up over that.
>>28579991Persistent failure to understand my side of the conversation means you are not a valid conversation partner.Do you even have those degrees?
Women would you be okay dating a guy who is very comfortable in his own company and can have a very good time enjoying activities/travel/etc alone, even if you aren't around?
>>28579983Mainly I don't really want my life to just be "went to school, got a job, had kids, died" like everyone else. I want to leave a legacy beyond that. I'll be essentially forgotten within a hundred years of my death if I don't, and even most of my genes will slowly dilute into nonexistence.
>>28578619Am I permanently pairbonded to my first? I keep emotionally cheating on every girl Ive been with. I know she took my virginity for the fun of it years ago but fuck, whenever I am with someone she always makes me admit I still love her and tells me I'm never going to feel the same about another girl
>>28579995Your side of the conversation is arguing for the sake of arguing. I really couldn't care less if I'm not """valid""" to a combative aspie on 4chan. And I'm finishing my degree this year.
>>28580006>I really couldn't care less if I'm not """valid""" to a combative aspie on 4chan. You actually do because I'm passionate about my interests.But this time, you failed.
I'm a sexually inexperienced, kinda prudish/shy woman who has recently finally acquired a bf. How do I let go of my sexual inhibitions and git gud at sex?
>>28580008Did you say what your interests were?
>>28580010I know better than to engage with someone who refuses to show any comprehension, nor any guilt for said lack of comprehension, and is willing to lie to try to make their position appear better, despite both of us knowing you're in the wrong.
>>28580010Now get your damn shit together. If you honestly are earning a degree you know what good faith discussion is, and you can fucking do it.
>>28579999>I want to leave a legacy beyond that. I'll be essentially forgotten within a hundred years of my death if I don't, and even most of my genes will slowly dilute into nonexistence.What's stopping you? Or what's wrong with being forgotten? I'm content with enjoying the time I have and ceasing to exist after I die.
>>28580009Be enthusiastic and open to trying new things. He's not worried about the things you're insecure about. He hasn't noticed and if he does then he won't care. He likes you and wants you, and that's all you need to know.
I'm at my wits end with my gf. Our sex life is gone. We live together but haven't had sex in two months. I got frustrated and made a petty remark about it. She got pissed off and we had a huge fight. Then we made up, went on a nice vacation and had a nice week back afterwards. No sex during any of that. Tonight I finally work up the courage to take another stab at it. We start making out in bed and then I touch her sexually. She flinches and I pull away. She is crying. I ask what's wrong and she says I always touch her sexually and I can't just be affectionate with her. ??? I am angry and confused by this because we just spent a lovely few weeks together cuddling and having fun without any sex. Now I am a bad guy for finally trying to bring sex back into the equation? She says I just need to not try anything with her for awhile, like she was incredibly hurt by what happened before our vacation and needs time to recover. I didn't do anything that bad. Just expressed my dissatisfaction with our sex life in a somewhat immature way. Nothing that warrants this treatment.So I am just done at this point. I'm not going to touch her ever again. Obviously she is just not into me at all. She just wants a warm body around to cuddle with her and listen to her talk about work. She cares nothing about my needs.
>>28580005By the looks of it, you aren't choosing who you're emotionally invested in.And by default, yes your first imprints on you to some degree.
>>28580011Lying about what exactly, your attitude immediately shuts down any potential good faith conversation we'd have. If it's about not not showing interest in what you do enough to ask about it, I already asked someone else exactly that earlier in the thread.
>>28580024Tell her you want sex plain and simple, and if she doesn't then the relationship is over. Prepare to move on anon. You can't live like this forever.
If I take a girl to a sit-down italian restaurant and we order a pizza to share, am I allowed to eat with my hands?
>>28580024>haven't had sex in 2 months!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lol...lmao even
>>28580033Before I met my gf I hadn't had sex in over ten years. Don't act like I am being a baby over this. It's way different when you live with a woman and she rejects you constantly.
>>28580024It sounds like it's over. Her sexual desire for you is over, at least. If it wasn't, she would make a more temporary excuse (I'm not in the mood tonight, let's try again tomorrow).But this sounds like she's trying to get across to you that it's permanent.Have a more serious conversation in a few weeks, but it should be more like "I love you, but if you don't want me physically anymore, I need to start thinking about finding someone who does"
>>28580019>What's stopping you?Well, all of the low-hanging fruit is taken, for one thing. I can't discover special relativity because someone already did that. Pretty much everything else would require spending several years learning an entirely new field and many more researching, and I would have no guarantees of it happening. You can think your way to special relativity, but you can't think your way to quantum gravity.I still might try to do some sort of political, religious or cultural legacy, but even that might not last.>what's wrong with being forgotten? I'm content with enjoying the time I have and ceasing to exist after I die.For me, that is existentially terrifying.
>>28580029Literally the first thing I asked:>How will you use your intelligence to be a good girlfriendYou still haven't answered.Because you think "Be interested in someone else rambling about their passions" is that.As you're too dumb to realise that different people want different things in a relationship.Also because you're a fucking narcissist so the idea of your obligations and responsibilities isn't something your brain recognises.And because your kind, rather than trying to understand when you've done wrong, will LARP yourself into pretzels rather than acknowledge it.>Did you say what your interests were?It's obvious from context what these are.Therefore, you're asking that question so you can DISAGREE with me, and claim I didn't do my job in explaining my interests, to give you an "out" so you can claim you weren't just being an incompetent narcissist.I see through that shit you're trying.You also accused me of arguing for no reason, rather than realising that A. I'm satisfying my ego, and B. You actually would merit my information as it's useful to you as a way of curing you of your inadequacies, or at least you would if you were a valid person rather than a narcissist.Fortunately, I don't actually need you to do your job in learning for me to find purpose in talking to you.But unfortunately for YOU, I am under no compulsion (internal or otherwise) to care about your well-being or be personally burdened by your failure to learn. I am more than happy to enjoy interacting with you through aggression.Now let me guess. You're going to come up with some excuse to deny responsibility for all this?Typical narcissist.
>>28580031>>28580037This is what I've been planning for awhile. It's difficult because she acts so affectionate and loving. So I keep thinking there is a chance to fix it. But it just keeps getting worse. The sexual aspect just isn't there and it never really existed in the first place. It's always been a struggle.
>>28580009Just get it on. If you're enjoying and having fun, he'll love that, even if you don't know anything
Girls who are single, if you could hire a bf for $100 a day right now, how would you spend your weekend with him?
Why do all Americans think it's okay to beat up or even kill white people over the n word? How do they know if the white person didn't have the n word pass before he/she/they said it?
>>28580041I love the way you honestly think disagreeing with you is a moral transgression.
>>28580032The idea of ordering a "to share" on a date disgusts me on an intrinsic level and I can't explain why.
>>28580038Well you wouldn't know what a discovery is until you discovered it. Besides, decades of research would still have value even if you ended up not discovering anything. But in your case, rather than making a discovery, it might be more fulfilling to figure out why being remembered or forgotten past your death is so important to you.
I see the Earth rise a second time from out of the sea, green once more. Waterfalls flow, and eagles fly overhead, hunting for fish among the mountain peaks. The Aesir meet on Ithavoll and regard the bones of the midgard-serpent, and there they recall the great events of Ragnarok, and Odin's old wisdom.There they will once more find the wonderful golden game pieces in the grass, which they had played with in the earliest days.Then the dark dragon will come flying down from the dark mountains, that glistening serpent. Nithoggr will bear corpses in his wings as he flies over that valley. Now I must retire.
>>28580044Why don't you refuse to confront her, because you're too busy being burdened by the guilt that it's your fault and that you'll only make it worse and hurt her feelings by placing your emotional demands on her, leading her to become even less loving?Why don't you trap yourself in an unfulfilling relationship because of fear of change and refusal to confront the person you've invested an excessive amount of emotions in?It'll all work out if you change nothing and just let things stay as they are.
>>28580069Because you prefer to be hatefucked and ghosted over anyone showing any form of affectionBecause of lifelong conditioning against human decency
>>28580058I don't personally, but the idea is that it's a very legible and clear taboo/social rule in American culture, and is purely an act of faith, so breaking it means that you're, essentially, an outlaw.
>>28580077>Because you prefer to be hatefucked and ghosted over anyone showing any form of affection>Because of lifelong conditioning against human decencyNo, affection is fine if it's not via share food.Wonder if my feeling is rational, and to what extent it is or isn't.
>>28580075I have confronted her about it multiple times but it only makes it worse. You are right I just need to end it once and for all. I just really believe that people should work on relationships on compromise, especially at my age (30), because there are no perfect matches out there.
>>28580064>I love the way you honestly think disagreeing with you is a moral transgression.It is and I'm not going to pretend otherwise.
Ah? How were the threads today anons?Also sorry to the anon for not bringing the horny posters back I wasn't in the mood.
>>28580086Quick, there's a schizophrenic namefagging as "INFP" or someshit and he's being really cringe and aggressive about his unmet sexual needsGo make him sexually activated or whatever.
>>28580080You were starved cyclically until the age of three in an inhumane experiment and then released to your current parents where you repressed the memoriesThe only remaining signs of your torment are an irrational aversion to sharing your food with others, lest you starve yourself
>>28580088Oh that's Gary, Hary, etc. He has metal problems just avoid him.
>>28580072They'd have value, but not the kind of value that gets me remembered- in other words, no value to me.And it's still a waste. No one knows the legions of people who failed to prove anything interesting about the Twin Primes conjecture. It's the people who succeed you care about.>But in your case, rather than making a discovery, it might be more fulfilling to figure out why being remembered or forgotten past your death is so important to you.But I know this already. The reason is that I'm terrified of ceasing to exist after I die, in the case that no afterlife or reincarnation exists. And even if a reincarnation exists, there's still my entire current self that ceases even if my consciousness still remains. If I can't live forever, the next best thing is to leave some tangible relic of my existence that will last as long as possible.Dying is the first death.The second is when no one alive remembers you.The third is when you leave no traces left on the earth of your existence.
>>28580089Eh k. My assumption is that someone did some cringe shit while I was younger or something and I don't remember, but old habits persist for no reason.
E, if you're out there, pray for me.
>>28580092Yeah but giving a shit about death is optional.
>>28580032It would be weird if you didn’t
>>28580102I mean... not for me it isn't. But regardless, I do.
>How many of you are still with your first love I have ruined my first long term relationship and I have very little hope for the future. I am not young.
>>28580041Sharing interests is a plus but it's not the only thing involved in a relationship, sharing responsibilities and emotionally connecting with your partner is important too. Never said otherwise. Your argument is having a meltdown over your own assumptions on my incomplete views on relationships. The worst assumption you could have made being that I didn't enjoy arguing with retarded faggots on the internet like you.
>>28579996Sure, as long as he is not a loner.
>>28580110>The worst assumption you could have made being that I didn't enjoy arguing with retarded faggots on the internet like you.No, the worst assumption I could've made is that you were competent at it.
>>28580092But why is it so important that a part of you lasts forever? If it was possible, would you really want to live forever? Wouldn't you wish you could die at some point?
>>28580110Also I fucking love how you legit didn't answer the question. Again.Lmao I swear narcissists have something wrong with them that causes them to utterly fail to process basic information, shit's crazy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqgr7R4zUMg
I cannot imagine going on a first dateGirls just seem too unpleasantWhy are you like this?
>>28580118>>28580120I've addressed that question at least twice already. You just don't like the answers you were given.
WomenHow would you react or feel if the guy your dating (or even your bf) told you he has a latex / balloon fetish ?
>>28580088I'm not an INFP>>28580091I'm not gary
>>28580119Nta. When people say they want to live forever they usually mean they want to live as long as they want to. It doesn’t have to be an absolute.
>>28580129Yyyyyup legitimately can't process that they aren't doing what's asked of them.I'm done. Mental illness is a hell of a drug.
>>28580124https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD-f5t2WXGQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCBFjmtLgSIWhere were you October 27th, 2004?
>>28580133Lmao. Concession accepted.
>>28580130Bummer. love latex but won’t do ballon stuff
It bothers me that whenever a guy opens up about his failure to get a girlfriend/laid and then mentioning his physical appearance there will be a swarm of retards who insist on the delusional idea that attractiveness has nothing to do with itits almost like they truly believe it themselvesnobody has ever said that its 100% impossible to get laid or into a relationship as an ugly male, but it surely makes it significantly more difficult.Or the other thing they do where they go "youre not ugly!" despite not having seen the guy. As if somehow the concept of ugliness does not exist. Nevermind the fact that almost all women have agreed that this person is unattractive and uninteresting based solely on his appearance.
>>28580137>Where were you October 27th, 2004?Tell ya where I was on December, playing World of Warcraft.
Don't scare me!
>>28580131DenialDenial
>>28580141Of course attractiveness matters.What's retarded is deciding to feel underconfident / sad / anxious / doubtful about it, because that just makes your chances even worse.Or LARPing that your underconfidence / etc sad mode bullshit is caused by your attractiveness, when in reality it's caused by sadness being easier than confidence and the person in question being too goddamn lazy to make up the difference through willpower.I don't think I or anyone else here denies the role of attractiveness in getting laid.What I vehemently deny is your right to be miserable about it. That shit is a choice and it's a choice that's fucking retarded.
>>28580119>But why is it so important that a part of you lasts forever?Because I don't want to die. It's the closest thing I can get to real immortality.>If it was possible, would you really want to live forever?Abso-freaking-lutely I would. There's so much future left! Why would I want to die?>Wouldn't you wish you could die at some point?I'm sure there would be periods of my life where I was suffering so much that I wanted to- I have in the past. But now that I've comprehended the idea of nonexistence that's a pretty strong bulwark against it.Alternatively, if I was 100% sure that there would be a good afterlife I would go to or reincarnation, I'd consider the idea. But I'm not. I hope it exists, I really truly do, but I have no proof it does.Or maybe if we ever get to a point where there's truly nothing left- the stars have all left us forever and there's no hope. But even then, I'd probably just wait it out.
>>28580141My sister said she wasn't judgyShe just so happens to be dating a 6'4 lawyer
>>28580148Not all of us can be retards like you
>>28580146I would kill myself if I was an INFP named Gary, that would be life on nightmare mode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2nnk609R1U
>>28580140What I don't get is how women will be like yasss kween you MUST pretend men who fuck each other up the ass are normalBut BALLOONS? That's too far you sick fuckLike maybe I just don't know enough about it and there's something nefarious behind a balloon fetishBut whenever people have "safe sex" they are almost always literally fucking a balloon between their sex organs and somehow that's normalBut whatever the fuck a balloon fetish is is somehow offputting and horrific
>>28580154Cope.
fuck I started people spamming youtube, I miss these threads before everyone started acting like I do
>>28580157I don't see anything bad about balloon fetishRedpill me on why your fetish is cringe
>>28580148confidence is largely based on resultsif someone is physically unattractive and gets met with negative responses for many of their interactions theyre going to lose their confidence and become more wirthdrawn, generallywomen say they like confidence because usually the hottest guys have the most confidence, and they have the most confidence because they have many positive encounters. ie a hot guy approaches a women he's never met in a club and puts his arm around her shoulder and when she sees his face she moves closer to himthat'd never work for an unattractive man obviously>I deny your right to be sad>JUST BE HAPPY THAT YOUR LIFE IS GOING TO BE A LOT WORSE THAN ATTRACTIVE PEOPLE AND THERES NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT BRO LOLgod youre a fucking retard I applaud rapists
>>28580157You like what you like. Not that difficult to get. Some people have boob size preferences, even though they are all boobs I doooont get it. See?
Femanons what kind of beards do you like the most on men?
>>28580179Don’t really know the types. Full beard
>>28580186>Full beardNice that is what I have right now, do you like it shorter or longer, mine is kinda medium but closer to short.
>>28580164Confidence is a choice; results make that choice easier, blaming your situation for your attitude is loser bullshit.Furthermore, the tales of people here who shoot themselves in the foot through failure to be confident and act on attraction and regret it later means that it doesn't damn well matter what women think, merely having the confidence would help even if they were indifferent.In short, go fuck yourself.And don't present your argument as a "Attractiveness is irrelevant" argument you dishonest swine. Call it what it is: "I refuse / suck ass at being confident and I want to blame my physical appearance, why can't I get away with it, waaaah."
I love her.
Women do you agree that incels should kill themselves?
>>28580200nooooooooooooooooooo my self-esteem
>>28580190>Confidence is a choice; results make that choice easier, blaming your situation for your attitude is loser bullshit.look man, you'd have to be delusional to be highly confident when you obviously dont have the looks to back it up.youre setting yourself up for painful rejections and many, many negative responses with that mind set if youre ugly. >unironically believing its all about confidenceopen your fucking eyes the next time you interact with women, if you ever do thata hot guy can be shy, anti social, a literal psychopathic murderer and he'll still have positive interactions with women, confidence or not
>>28580205I honestly don't know if you're trying to blackpill all the guys here or if you think you're helpingRegardless you should really fuck off
>>28580205Rejection isn't painfulYour failure to be cool with rejection is another skill issue. It didn't burden me back when I was trying to get laid and it sure doesn't burden me now.What's happening there is you basing your self-worth on how people react to you, rather than how you think of yourself.Protip: You control how you think of yourself, so you can be secure in how you'll feel and be unharmed if people reject you, if you're judging yourself by e.g. whether you gave it an honest attempt.Whereas if you care about results, that'll be uncertain and it'll inspire a lot of anxiety and potential low self image if you fail to achieve.>unironically believing its all about confidenceDid I state that?No. I did not. I said the opposite.You're so desperate for your schizo bullcrap that you don't even read, get the fuck outta here.>a hot guy can be shy, anti social, a literal psychopathic murderer He'd still be better if he chose to be confident and emotionally active.
>>28580188Eh. Not wizard long, so I guess medium, specially when it’s thick.
>>28580163It's not my fetish that's why I'm asking I literally don't get it>>28580177But the thing is I can't imagine, say, I'm in a relationship and my gf is like "hey this is so embarrassing but I am aroused by blowing up/popping/[doing whatever with] balloons"and I'm like"UGH NO WAY FAG I'M JUST LIKE NOT INTO THAT"LikeIt's a balloonWhat am I afraid of or averse to?Do I have to be "into it" to indulge it?What could possibly be more innocuous?
>>28580210He's a schizo who insists on being sad. That's what his demons / voices / obsession / whatever the fuck you wanna call it is.But because this is fucking stupid, and he doesn't want to admit he's fucking stupid, he invents all this LARP and delusion to say how it's not actually his choice to be said, muh attractiveness made him do it.
>>28580200No, but I honestly do not care or think about them regardless
>>28580215>Eh. Not wizard long, so I guess medium, specially when it’s thick.Thanks, my beard is very thick.Feeling good about it now.
>>28580218Actually no I meant to refer to youYou're making this shit worse for meFuck off
>>28580200Hm. Depends which incels.The ones who refuse to be happy yeah. Go ahead and actually do it instead of simply living your lives lying to yourselves and others to gorge yourselves fat on pity that you'll never ever use to actually improve anything.The ones who wanna change no, pls stay alive.
>>28580224You deserve to be dead if you don't find merit in this.That said, I have neither the capacity nor the will to act on that truth, but it would still be convenient if you were to act on it on my behalf.
>>28580211>Your failure to be cool with rejection is another skill issue. It didn't burden me back when I was trying to get laid and it sure doesn't burden me now.the fuck kind of retarded nonsense are you spewing. Think 5 seconds about what youre typing before you reply>What's happening there is you basing your self-worth on how people react to you, rather than how you think of yourself.mate what the fuck does it matter if I think Im hot shit and an amazing person when in reality 100% of people you interact with think youre unattractive and ugly? The problem about being ugly is how other people view you, not what the fuck you think. You can think youre a millionaire if that makes you happy, but if you go to the bank theyre not going to play along>>Rejection isn't painfulno it isnt, not at all. but what is painful is a plethora of rejections and the slow realisation that no matter what you do nothing is going to make up for your ugly mug. thats what hurts.rejections are whatever, theres billions of women out there. But none of them want an ugly guy, and thats what hurts>He'd still be better if he chose to be confident and emotionally active.yes, indeed, my winning lottery ticket would be better if it had been free too, but thats splitting hairsyoure focusing on a tiny almost irrelevant aspect and pretending that its SUPER important. Its delusional. It misleads people. Its 99% about your looks. The people who can use this advice about confidence are the AVERAGE looking men. They can get girls, just not on their looks alone. They can better themselves and see results.A 2/10 man turning into a 3/10 is not going to anything for him
>>28580216Balloons remind me of being a child spending a fun day with my family and a cake. Can’t do anything sexual with it, will be a turn off. It’s really difficult to have this conversation with you because you don’t understand how someone can be into something while others might not be into the same things.
>>28580228>the fuck kind of retarded nonsense are you spewing. Incorrect attitude. Try again.
What's the name of that one song that goes duh du du duh duh du du duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh du du du du ?
>>28580132That's a more reasonable stance. We have the freedom to decide when to end our lives, would be nice to be able to decide how long we can extend them as well.>>28580151The infinite horrors and boredom you'd experience as an immortal scare me more than dying, honestly. Any form of death would be quick and easy in comparison. You're willing tough them out, but I don't think I could.Living long enough to do everything I've ever wanted to do would be great, but after that, then what? There'd be nothing left to do with the life I'd be forced to continue living. I would be trapped in my own existence. What would you do once the universe implodes or some shit and there's nothing left to do?
>>28580228But sure.Let's suppose you're unfuckably ugly.Have goals in life other than women.>BUT THEN I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE SAD>FUCK YOU>I WANNA BE SADI know and I'd love if you could shove it up your ass. I do actually respect your amazing dedication to being miserable but you don't need delusions in order to justify it. You can just admit you want to be miserable and I will accept that.
>>28580241>But sure.>Let's suppose you're unfuckably ugly.>Have goals in life other than women.why are you making the retarded assumption that they dont have other goals in life?most men have goals in life. and then they also want to fuck. And these guys dont get to do that. youre so fucking incredibly stupid, you dont think through about any of the things youre saying, its like youre a teenager who just repeats what hes been told without ever having given it any thought
>>28580246Every time you call me stupid, you're wrong, and you're coping with the fact that YOUR worldview is retarded.The basic premise that someone can work within their situation to find value and worth in life isn't stupid, it's literally what we're evolved to do and it's is the application of intelligence.Again, I do admire how fucking dedicated you are to being miserable that you've decided that being miserable is the only smart option, and that taking control of your attitude and working within your situation is clearly the inferior option.But that's batshit.You're batshit.Maybe stop.
>>28580234Darude: Sandstorm
>>28580246You're talking to the emotions schizo. He's so mentally ill that he created a tulpa for himself to cope with loneliness.
>>28580236Nta. He would eventually get sucked into our star as it grows and there he will remain until the heat death of the universe. Then he will be the only thing that will actually experience oblivion forever. Unless there is another round of big bang, but then he will likely be in a star, black hole or in the center of a planet forever again. Rinse and repeat
>>28580246But sure. Tell me why you, in your oh-so enlightened brain, think that it's stupid for a man to:A. Be confident approaching womenB. Be calm or cool when rejectedC. Enjoy life pursuing other goalsD. Solve his unmet emotional needs.Let me guess. You have no answer other than "I GOTTA BE RIGHT I JUST GOTTA NNNOOOOOOOOOOO".Absolute goddamn unit you are. Go write a paper on your beliefs and how the REAL definition of intelligence is to utterly lack adaptability and to be miserable based on factors outside your control. 10/10 guaranteed PhD right there.
>>28580236I've never gotten to the point where I've run out of things to do in the future- in fact, my list of things to do is growing WAY faster than my ability to do those things. And while I do get bored I don't get long-term bored. I get short-term bored or medium-term bored, and those are fixable problems.It is a concern if the universe implodes but I'm imagining that in that case even super tech won't protect me from dying. In any case, I'd want to at least live until then. And if it's magic, well, we can magic away the implosion of the universe too.Or if there are no other humans left. Maybe I'd try tulpamancy then. Or similar unrecoverable apocalypses.
>>28580261I generated spontaneously and based on who I am, the consequences of such are accepted.She doesn't (and can't) feel lonely. I haven't ever needed to test if I'm capable of it, but I believe that I could be in theory.Nice of you to mention me, but no.^I chose to love a waifu out of spite for the 3dpd who refuse to discipline themselves in who they're attracted to, and how this world thinks it's morally ok for a person to allow their attraction to drift, while it's morally NOT okay to force a person to remain attracted to you.That is batshit and backwards. Consent assumes your emotions are valid. Sometimes your emotions are NOT valid, and if I must have a fictional relationship to have one that acknowledges validity instead of muh consent, so be it.And yeah, I've never felt loneliness.As far as I know, loneliness is just another excuse people invent for being sad.
>>28580112>as long as he is not a lonerWhy not?
>>28579689I'd be very turned on
>>28579584I had a co-worker like this, could pull really hot girls with ease and gave off an aura of confidence. He wasn't a very nice person though and seemed pretty lost and depressed
>>28580310Because I like people with social lives
>>28579427Can confirm, have ADHD and a depressing number of unfinished projects, I cope by calling myself a jack of all trades
>>28579309I don't remember any of them besides Tik Tok
>>28579161I'm just trying to get up the stairs m8
>>28579140I mean I did it once and a girl sent me nudes so
>>28579093If I put my nerdy hobbies on something like Tinder I hardly get any matches. When I LARPed as a normie I got way more matches. It's just playing the game
Fmen i have a bit of a fucked up fantasy
>>28580351Yes, you want to be abducted, tied up, raped (by a monster/ruffian), then groomed into recruiting other women to get the same treatment, except you're the only one he "really cares about".We know.
>>28580353no! i want to break up with someone i’m still very much in love with and i want him to obsessively (keyword obsessively) do everything in his power to get me back to unhealthy extent and if he doesn’t i want to think about each other forever for as long as we live>inb4 baitno stop
Someone post a new thread already.
>>28578916Yes, I dated a girl who was in Mensa (so 140+ IQ or whatever), way smarter than me, she actually asked me out. She was very sweet, bit of an obsessive autist, constantly thinking about and learning things (so had some anxiety issues but they got better overtime). On a date I would be like wow this cookie looks like a dinosaur and she'd be like "I read the other day that... <insert crazy fact here>". She used a lot of words I didn't know but I didn't want to keep asking like an idiot.She's doing pretty good in life now (and deserves it cause she's a really sweet person), we still keep in touch a bit. She makes bank in a really niche STEM field and has been with some chad dude for a few years now. I'm glad she left me cause these days I work minimum wage and do a lot of drugs lol
Women, what do you think is going to happen with Credit Suisse? I'm trying to decide whether to place orders for indices before trading opens.
>>28580351>men i have a bit of a fucked up fantasyBased, me too
>>28580263Somewhat unrelated but I hope we can find life like ours on one of the nearest exoplanets before the Sun dies. That discovery is something I wish I could live long enough to see, what would essentially be a parallel universe existing somewhere on another planet. The idea of it makes everything feel so trivial. >>28580268That's a good way of thinking. I also have a list of things to do in the future, but whether I can actually do them? That's how I end up feeling bored, though it doesn't last too long. Usually it's just tiredness. Kinda like right nowBut the things we do or want to do are provided by our environment, the people we live with, the things they create. And all of that will cease to exist one day. The whole universe. One the one hand, I do wonder what it would be like to be the only one left to see the outcome of that. But on the other, I think I'd rather just die along with everything else if there's nothing but myself and my tulpas left to keep me sane. Hell, if I had a tulpa I'd already have gone insane. I say all of this but ultimately, I probably wouldn't even hesitate to become immortal if I had the opportunity. Not because I want to, but because I could. And I'd be miserable.
>>28578715M24I don't have any goals. I just try to live in the moment and do whatever I feel like doing at the time. I actually spend very little time just passively consuming #content, I like to work on stuff, help people out and just go for meditative walks.
>>28580358I'm not sure that's fucked up but it sounds like it would have a decent chance of backfiring on you if you tried to realise it.
>>28578677Sounds like you're trying to run away from yourself, instead of accepting yourselfIt's all in your mind, you can let go of your previous identity hangups and reinvent yourself without making all those external changes
Women, thoughts on western men who admire the traditional values and strength Russia shows and promotes? Would you rather live in a Russia-like western state or in the current neoliberal system?
>>28580373Assuming we don't manage to Minecraft ourselves before that point, we'll eventually be chucking seedships around the galaxy.
>>28578682M, idk, chocolate mousse is good>>28578680No, just not attracted to them>>28580351Tell us>>28580327Fair enough >>28580268If you were immortal though, by the very content of infinity, you would do every activity possible an infinite number of times, so you would get bored m8
>>28580383>traditional values and strength Russia shows and promoteslmao.
>>28580385Sounds fun. If only that could happen in our lifetime.
>>28580379backfiring? how so?
I've been listening to too much rap music and watching too much TikTok, now I say nigga instead of "uhm" as filler. How do I stop?
>>28580392First off, dumping someone you're in love with will hurt you.Second, there's a chance that they won't be obsessive or interested enough in you to get the desired reaction.
Where do you people get your IQ measured? Don't say online quizzes
>>28580373For that to happen we have to alter our bodies so the environment can no longer affect us. Being a spacesuit is easy enough, being on a planet with the slightest variation to our own will kill us.
>>28580400IQ is only measured in the real world and is a function of where you started in life, how old you are, how much wealth you currently have and at what rate its projected to grow. Everything else is made up bullshit.
>>28580383Laughable. That’s like being a simp to a beta male
>>28580373True. It will be a very different metric if humankind (or really, sapient life in general) goes extinct. I'm extraverted, so I may very well go insane if that happens.>>28580387Perhaps! That's only in the theoretical sense though, and it doesn't take into account humankind's unlimited creativity. Realistically speaking there's so many things to do that by the time it comes that I need to repeat one, either I will have forgotten the first time, or I enjoyed it enough to do it again.There are video games I've beaten that I'd want to play again, if I had unlimited time. I'm sure if I replayed them, I'd want to replay them again in another 10 years. Every now and again I reread books or webcomics. There's always new video games and board games, more than I'll ever be able to play. I've so far come up with a few hundred years worth of tabletop games to run. So what if 300 years from now I decide to rerun one of them?>>28580400Psychologists run you through tests like Stanford-Binet or Wechsler.
>moving out of home in 4 weeks>can finally date women and not be ashamedHow do I attract women?
>>28580411How old are you?
>>28580400You get tested by a licensed psychologist, you can google this. I was tested at age 5 and again at 15This >>28580404 is not how it works at all.
>>2858041228I had literal cancer and it set me back lmao.
>>28580264>making up a bunch of points that I never argued for or claimedyoure projecting words onto me instead of reading my arguments you dumb retardIll only argue point A because thats the only one I said:A person is not going to be confident anymore after many failures, because it clearly doesnt work for him. Someone whose faced 500 rejections and no success is not going to have the same confidence approaching a woman anymore than a man whose faced less rejections and/or had much more success, unless hes completely delusional. Thats just a fact, so theres nothing to argue hereAll Im saying is that you should acknowledge that if a bunch of men cant get laid or into relationships, largely, or perhaps entirely because of their physical appearance, than youre going to have a bunch of sad/angry men but retards like insist on denying reality to believe in their perfect fairytales where everyone can be anything no matter whatgo hang out with a burn victim sometime, see how tough life gets. Then tell them to man up and be confident. Thats an extreme example but itll illustrate how fucking retarded your way of thinking is
Why do women ask if I have a girlfriend on the first date?It seems like such a weird questionthe implication that I could be an adulterer is just rudeit also seems to imply that going on dates despite being in a relationship is a circumstance that makes sense to them, like the kind of person who feels insecure that their SO will cheat because they themselves would cheat if they could.this is not a question I get from younger women though, just women ive dated who are older than 27ish
>>285804141/2Its fine, man, dont need to explain yourself, ever. Glad you are better either way. Self-improvement:Basics are:1) Your place (done)2) Dont be fat 3) Dress well (not hard, look at guys on the street that have girls with them and have similar body composition and consider something similar) 4) Groom, try out some haircuts and ask for female opinion, shower regularly 5) Have a job 6) Practice conversations. Practice practice practice - go fucking approach guys in the park and chat them up if girls are too scary, just talk to them about their dog and what they do for work or some shit. Might also catch some interesting friends that way that invite you to parties and activities where you can meet girls.
>>28580414>>285804352/2 Location:I was asking in case you were still studying because then its easy. As an adult you have several main options1) Work - starting with the most controversial oneIts not advisable to date colleagues BUT if this is the only place you meet people - its better than being alone. People bang colleagues all the time, when COVID came about and we started looking at who was sick and needed to stay in quarantine, it turned out a bunch of them lived together w/o telling anyone. So just shoot your shot. 2) Hobbies - outdoorsy hobbies are a great place to meet new people and potentially new girls. Just make sure you actually enjoy the hobby. As a bonus if its is a sporty hobby like hiking or dancing it will help you stay in shape, but if you prefer book clubs, you can check that out. 3) Dating apps - you need make a fantastic profile. Dont need to be some Apollo look-alike, but make sure you wear stylish clothes, have a variety of pictures some of them taken with friends, pictures in interesting places and from interesting activities. If you dont have friends - you should get those first before dating, this is easy if you join some hobby like I already mentioned. 4) Friends of friends - if you have a wide friend group and people know you are a cool, reliable, funny guy they will try to hook up some single friend with you at one point or another if they know you are looking. Building the trust and reputation might take a whole though5) Cold approaches/bars - couldnt help you there, I think its kinda weird but some people find success with it. Its one of those "by the numbers" things where you ask 200 girls you see on the street and hope a couple agree to meeting up.
>>28580435>>28580437this guy is just distracting with you a bunch of shit you can do to cope with the fact that you cant get a gf/laidthe only good advice is going to places were women are and try to work your magic therethings like "groom and shower" are so fucking obvious its an insult to the readers intelligence that he even feels the need to mention it
>>28580442>things like "groom and shower" are so fucking obvious its an insult to the readers intelligence that he even feels the need to mention itIts like people telling you to eat greens. They know its basic. You know its basic. Everybody also knows a lot of people dont do it and leaving it out risks making someone think its not important. If someone asked me "how do I make a balanced diet" I wouldnt exclude "eat greens" because its a basic piece of information, its still extremely relevant.
>>28580437>>28580435Well the good news is that I'm fit, have a good job, friends, hobbies, etc.It's really just meeting people and being open to it.
>>28580449Yes, then its literally just you going out there and asking girls out, you will probably also have dating app success. You sounds like a well-rounded guy who managed to get a better outcome while having cancer than half the dudes here who had everything on ez mode, so I am sure you will have very little trouble as long as you go out and date.
>>28580455lets hope he isnt unattractive, would make it a lot more difficult for him
>>28580462He is social guy who is fit, has a good job and has a heroic story of defeating cancer. He's got this in the bag as long as his face is not literally deformed.
>>28580443>Everybody also knows a lot of people dont do it and leaving it out risks making someone think its not important.You're fucking retarded. Do you live in Africa where water isn't available? Kill yourself.
>>28580466Lol, being fit is the bare minimum for a man in 2023. Height and face are the most important things.
>>28580462I mean, girls have asked me out in the past and I flirted with a lot of nurses over the last 5 years pretty happily. I don't think I am ugly. Plus my doctor encouraged me to get into the gym as part of chemo recovery as one of the best things I could do to get better faster.
Women what's your opinon on geomaxxing?
>stare at each other's eyes and laugh and look away then look at each other again>copies some of my phrases>when saying bye we hug for about 10-20 seconds and she puts her head on my chest, slowly and naturally end hug together, fuzzy feeling afterwards>only known each other 2 weeks and met twice in person help?
>>28580484You are a victim of social media or you have very loose definition of "fit". Motherfuckers here think the average man is a fitness model making 6 figures an year in his 20s.
>>28580509As if social media and reality hasn't been mixed already, niggas ain't meetin strangers in da streets anymoe. And you ain't finna get anything if you're just a healthy fit guy. You need to actually look ripped if you want bitches.
>>28580521Is the average youg dad you see playing with his kids in the park a ripped 6'2+ golden god or is he a balding chubby average dude?
>>28580525Depends how many of them are betabucks, but I've seen both. And we aren't talking about getting bitches when you're already 30. To get bitches in their prime years, you need to be tall and ripped with a good face.
>>28580487She is falling in love with you. Try to go with the flow, be good/kind to her but stay in touch with how you feel around and about her yourself.
>>28580537no you dont, youre fucking retarded matebeing tall and ripped helps, but having a handsome face is obviously most importantits literally all about how your face looks
>>28580487Quick bro propose marriage
>>28580539i accidentally liked one of her instagram posts and unliked it, i'm fucked lol. she's such a beautiful soul though so ill just own up to it if she brings it up, probably for the best i do to be honest (been meaning to for a while, was never gonna keep it a secret i was looking at her insta obv i like her too)
>>28580537if you knew the sex-offender-rizz motherfuckers I have seen pull mad pussy, you'd want to shoot urself
GIrls, thoughts on guys with 0 socials?
I am a guy who just wants to learn to relax to talk to new women in person.is it a good idea to make a friendly, non-flirty tinder acc and just put that I am just looking for some chill ppl to hang out with?
>>28580411Learn to be(come) a good listener. People are not just attracted to your "stats" (age, beauty, height, weight, style...) but also very much to how you make them feel about themselves. If you are an attentive, engaged listener, you make people feel more interesting, more confident and more relaxed and all of those are super important for seduction/feelings developing potentially, whether platonic or romantic or sexual.Don't:>judge, definitely not out loud but try not to judge in your head either, that's the only way to make 100% sure it doesn't show>bring the conversation back to yourself more than like once every five anecdotes>give opinions that are not asked forDo:>show signs of active listening like nodding, making encouraging (affirmative, surprised, amused) noises, holding eye contact, showing in your body language (turned towards them, open, no legs or arms crossed) that you are focused on them>ask open-ended questions (what does [word they used] mean to you? how did that make you feel? can you tell me more about that?)>provide honest, positive observations ("the way you speak about them sounds like you care a lot", "seems like you had a great time there", "you bring it to life wonderfully">share bits of information or anecdotes about yourself that are funny and/or relatable and/or telling about yourself in a light-hearted way - you can think of stuff in advance if you want>show that you are trying to have a good time together in small ways, like offering to bring them a drink or share your snack>asking questions is generally good but people specifically love when you ask about stuff that is fun for them te remember/relive, like asking about their hobbies/the parts of their life they like most/their dreams for the future, asking when they feel most free to have fun or how they typically have fun, when flirting ask what makes them feel beautiful or when they feel sexyGood luck!!
>>28580547Just like it again, who cares. If she ever brings it up, make a cute joke out of it. "Was just checking your [cute/pretty/cool] post again and my fingers fucked up, how hard can it be right". Sounds like she's into you enough that she really won't pull apart everything and will just be happy with a sign of interest my man.
>>28580542Based and facepilled
>>28580552They need to acquire more because social skills are required for literally everything in life (making friends, getting a promotion or a job, getting help from strangers, mutually falling in love) and life is so hard when you keep running into this struggle.Social skills are not magic. Yeah some people def have a headstart in life because of their upbringing and/or their natural character, if you're an extrovert you naturally acquire more learning experiences throughout your life. But they are skills you can invest time into and improve like everything else. Even literally autistic people can improve lots just through practice, that's why women on the spectrum stay under the radar so much more often, because women are better at just copying what they see others do around them even when they don't understand or feel it.Your whole life will be spent gaining life experience and getting better at things and you have tons of time to learn. Check out >>28580570 for starters.
>>28578715M 24Flying to space one day would be great, maybe even to the moonJust experiencing the weightlessness and nothingness that's out there One the other (and more realistic) side: having a job that won't make me hate my life and pays enough to enable a comfortable life + allows me to build up wealth
>>28580570Don't:>judgeStopped reading here. Teasing and judging girls about their opinions gets them engaged real fast
>>28580569I think there's other apps than tinder that are probably better suited for this. Or maybe you can make a platonic account on tinder I don't know about that. But definitely do go for an app that does not present as a place to date, women are very used to guys presenting under the guise of just wanting to be social when they really are looking to fuck. Don't bother trying to waste your energy convincing people you are not that guy.
>>28578619I made a thread on this but would like some /atoga/ inputSo i was just after having a date with a girl.I feel like we got along really well. She was laughing at my jokes, was ok with me touching her hand, wrapping my arm around her waist. She even grinded against me a few times. I tried giving her a neck kiss when she was grinding against me as she kept exposing her neck to me, when I tried doing it she jumped abit and moved away but kept dancing with me. Later on in the ate we moved to a club and I asked her if i could kiss her later on and she said "we're not there yet". We still had fun for the rest of the night but i said id love to see her again but she said "we'll see" before hugging me goodbye. Is she blowing me off? I really hope not because i got along really well with her
>>28580586That's banter, it's not actually judging. Different thing entirely and that's totally fine. You can get away with a lot when you are obviously being playful/light-hearted.
>>28580582I meant social media accounts but thanks for the detailed account. I am pretty good at personal interactions and am a good listener/advisor and can relay my arguments very well, I just have no online presence.
>>28580594Don't bother trying to make sense out of her boundaries, those are just what they are and clearly kissing her neck or mouth is more intimate to her than grinding.To me "we're not there yet" definitely does sound like she expects to get there, not intended to blow you off just to slow you down a bit.
>>28580596See? That easy, instant easy (You) :^)
>>28580585>Flying to space one day would be great, maybe even to the moonlol
>>28580598That's my bad, I read your post too hastily. I don't have social media either so it is only positive to me. I spend enough time on internet bullshit as it is and it is easier for me to like people when I don't have to see the cringey shit they post/do online sometimes.I take that for you it is also a conscious decision and if that is the case, you would not be compatible with a girl who both didn't understand at all and cared a lot about that. So really it is fine.
I went to a party yesterday atog. I saw a shitton of cute women. It kind of motivated me honestly, if there are so many cute girls in the world then surely there has to be at least one out there that would like me, right?..Right?
>>28580604Nice, 10/10. It does not take a lot to engage me, though, just saying!
>>28580608You are right. Sounds like you had a great night. If you keep in touch with those people you might score more invites!
>>28580602Ok cool, see its been so long since I was in a proper date. I'm usually used to just making out in a club shortly after meeting a girl yknow.Cool, I'll keep that in mind now. I'm normally really bad at reading bodylanguage and telling when a girl wants me to kiss her too. She replied to my message asking her to text me when she got home safe.How long should I wait until asking her out again? I was thinking of going for a coffee date a few days from now after I get a tattoo but would that be too early?So does the "we'll see" sound negative?
I think I'm gonna take dancing classes.I've noticed that virtually all women love dancing but guys tend to not like to do it, so there has to be something we're missing here. It must be fun for sure.Plus I have a lot of free time lately and making more friends would be good. And it would help me be less shy.Do you guys recommend any particular style?
>>28580607Yeah its absolutely a conscious decision, I just really dont like the entire concept. 99% of the pictures on my phone are fucking documents lol>>28580610Damn, a 10? I'll take it and ignore the qualifier afterwards.
>>28580230>>28580216>>28580163>>28580157>>28580130 here So I can't really describe what is so special about it, from what I've read this fetish exists because of weird childhood experiencesWhen I was about 12 yrs old I just enjoyed inflating balloons in my bed and then just felt aroused (only when I am alone, never happened at birthday Partys or sth) Sometime later I found out about "looners" and that there is even a fetish community for this stuffI actually struggled really hard with this fact because it made me feel like a perverted sick fuck and I repressed this fetish for several years But after a while I recognized it's not possible to get rid of this stuff and repressing it just made me feel even more mentally ill (obsessive thoughts, especially)I've told my therapist about fetishistic thoughts, but not about this specific fetishIn fact I have never told anyone irl about this fetish...So fast forward today and I keep a stash of a few 16in, 17in and 24in balloons under my bed and sometimes inflate them, hump then lay on them and that's it
>>28580627Try some salsa or bachata broDancing is fun but classes are unironically a good way to meet grills. I went with a friend a few times and think this cute blonde was hitting on me but I was too shy to keep going to the class kek
>>28580621I have had lots of female friends and in my experience it varies very much from woman to woman how different stuff is ranked in terms of intimacy. E.g. for some women giving head is not that intimate at all because you keep your clothes on and are not touched, so in that sense it is less vulnerable, you do not open yourself up to being played with and feeling things in response. But others think it is supremely intimate to take someone's penis in your mouth, maybe even more intimate than penetration.This applies to everything, whether actual sex acts or stuff like kissing, touching, grinding. All you have to do is read her signs and follow her lead. And, of course, if she wants to go faster than you do, or anyone else in the future, the roles are reversed and she needs to read your signs for how to proceed.I would not wait long to ask her out again, maybe she was drunk, it was a night out, chances are the memory will fade fast. Two-three days seems fine to me.I don't know ("we'll see"), it's possible, it's also possible she just generally tries not to make promises at the end of a night after meeting someone new. Maybe she has a habit of jumping in impulsively and tries to change that. You don't know, you can't read her mind and that's not your job either, you should just focus on that you are curious about her and want to see her again and then see if she's up for that.Good luck and enjoy!
>>28580614It was fun, yes. I'm trying to be more sociable in general, it was more of an event but there were a ton of people and I went with some close friends. Now I just need to be less shy and start making small talk with other people and I think I'll be golden. I really want to have more of a social life, I've noticed I'm actually pretty extroverted and love being with people, just shy as hell.
>>28580627I used to get good mileage out of Contra/Square, but that was 8 years ago almost. I'm planning on trying to go again next weekend. After that, I might keep going if I don't run into my ex or anyone involved in her life, and assuming it's managed to avoid wokism.Contra's good because they have teaching at the beginning, at least around here, and you don't need classes.I've also contemplated Swing a few times, my friends in college all did that, but I just don't like the music that much.
>>28580627Yeah all my bros who did it ended up in relationships with girls who look way out of their league. One of them even with a girl who outearns him but is happy for him to just sit at home and play WoW if he wanted to. He doesnt, he has a job, but she told him she doesnt care, she just loves him and wants to be with him until the end of time. My inhibitions are too high for me to go, otherwise I would too. I developed involuntary facial ticks and now my face starts spasming whenever I remember an uncomfortable encounter (which happens several times a day). So anything out of my comfort zone is a no-no lol. If anyone has any suggestions how i can address this I'd love to hear it.
I love girls with feminine energy that are happy and bubbly and shit being with them just makes it seem like the world is a wonderful place.
>>28580656I admire those women but could never go near one.
>>28580656I have 2 female colleagues. One is what you describeThe other sleeps with cyanide next to her bed in case her building falls down and it seems like she will have to die slowly, she wants to make sure she can end it quick.
>>28580653The hot girls already had bfs when I did dancing for a year. Ugly girls were single.
>>28580640Ok I'll ask her out again tomorrow. I'll just send her a message getting to know her more. We were texting non-stop the last week and I think we were really cool with each other. Shes so cute and I loved talking to her. I don't think I've enjoyed being on a date so much before this
>>28580656Me too man, me too. And I like that they go for me.
>>28580653>>28580652>>28580636The woman thing is a plus for me but only because I want to be less anxious around women, I'm not really going just to find someone, I honestly would be plenty happy with another group of friends to do stuff with on the weekends.Is anyone here familiar with Zumba? I think there's a place near my house that offers it too. I'm in Spain so virtually everything is Latin.
>>28580656Had one working with me for a few monthsComing to work was always wonderfulLife was full of sunshine and flowers, and it felt like hope was back in my life. I was looking forward to going to work to talk to her every day, listen to her stories and get some light in my life. She made me love girls again after being jaded and blackpilled over the years. Then she left once her contract ended and work sucks again
if a guy is a religious believer who's really into it belief wise, is it a red flag if he breaks the rules of his religion whenever he feels like it? if a guy isn't even loyal to his wacko beliefs, will he ever be loyal to you?
I've stopped being an incel and reading incel shit and I'm still a virgin but I'm much less miserable. So I think that's a W.
>>28580802You're still an incel you're just not misogynistic anymore.
>>28580656I fluctuate between being bubbly like that and being very somber, depending on my cycle and shit that's going on and all that. Is that fine?
>>28580802Good for you! Good job, anon, I'm proud of you.
>>28578619Do cameltoes happen on accident or girls make them on purpose?
i am voluntarily celibatedo i have a chance with the females?
>>28580820I have never had a cameltoe in public on purpose. It can just happen when you're being active, that's it.
>>28580825Maybe don't dress like a whore?
Incels / red pill fags often rant about how women will act like hoes or date chads just to fuck around in their 20s and then try and settle down with a “nice guy” when their biological clock starts ticking How true is this?
>>28580872I don't.
>>28580900>>28580900>>28580900>>28580900
>>28580879I'd say they get it wrong that female creatures all hit the wall at 30. Unless they completely let themselves go, they still have power over men and the divorced men in their 40s and 50s are pretty desperate for a new partner too.>>28580883You wouldn't get a cameltoe if you wore proper clothes.
>>28580906I wear what allows me to move when I'm active. I'm not wearing an ankle-long dress to go hiking.
>>28580923There are sweatpants and basketball/soccer/running shorts too. A lot of you dress like whores then complain about the attention you get when it was your choice to go out that way.
I started fostering this girl. she's disabled and gets bullied a lot. it took a week for us to get used to each other, but its fair to say we are very close now. we have a very loving relationship and look out for each other. but the authorities are saying I can't adopt and she's going to be given to another family. we're both heartbroken and torn up by this. how do i get over the sadness?
>>28580936I didn't complain about anything, I answered the question about whether or not cameltoes were always on purpose.Stop trying to stir shit for no reason. Your basic bitch gender war slapfighting is both overdone and boring, especially around here.
>>28580951Why is it so hard for you to wear proper clothes?
>>28580815As long as it's not bipolar.
>>28580957What do you suggest she wear while exercising?
>>28580422Do they know it’s a first date?
>>28580957I will wear leggings while I exercise and you can't stop me.
How do you know if you fucked up a first date?I'm getting really anxious that I may have messed up my date with a girl. The date went on longer than I would have expected and the conversation just kept flowing and flowing but near the end of the date I tried to kiss her and she told me we arent at that point at the moment. A while after she had to go home as she had plans in the morning. We were drinking together from 7 until 1 o clock in the morning. I feel like I fucked up. I feel like I could just be self-sabotaging myself by getting so anxious over it
