Is it really beta/cuck/whatever behaviour to do so? Sure thing it's a bummer to date someone who already had kids, but then again, it is never taken into consideration the kid itself. It's not like he did something wrong, and he deserves to have a fatherly figure in his life to balance things out. I myself am the son of a single mother, and I couldn't have given two shits if my fatherly figure was a biological one or not, I just longed for someone to teach me how to shave instead of watching youtube for that. Isn’t there a sort of nobility to step up and help a little fella so he can be normal and actually have a chance at life? And rail some latina pussy in the meantime of course.
>>28575189If by nobility you mean cuckoldry then yes. You are literally taking care of another mans kid, that woman decided to have a child with that man and you are the one who has to do the hard work of raising it. Is it the kids fault? Absolutely not. But its not yours either and you would be way worse off getting involved in that shit.
>>28575198So we should just let the world be filled with future deadbeats that will imitate what they've seen as kids? Just have broken children because of some obscure sense of pride based in a recent porn (((fade))). I don't know, man, it seems wrong to be like that.
>>28575215It sucks but its not my problem and not your problem either
>>28575189She better be pretty damn impressive for me to even consider it.
>>28575189It's like going around in your free time cleaning up rubbish other people left lying around. Except the guy who picks up rubbish has some kind of moral virtue and makes public spaces nicer for everyone, so even he is far above you.
>>28575189>I myself am the son of a single mother, and I couldn't have given two shits if my fatherly figure was a biological one or not, I just longed for someone to teach me how to shave instead of watching youtube for that.Yo nigga, I had my dad, and I still watched youtube to make sure I was shaving right. I coulda asked his ass, but I watched youtube instead. Didn't really seem like a deal to me>Isn’t there a sort of nobility to step up and help a little fella so he can be normal and actually have a chance at life?Yes. Wait, nobility? I dunno, who cares? It's about the kid, not you, right?
>>28575198>But its not yours either and you would be way worse off getting involved in that shit.But would the kid be better off?
>>28575262>>It's about the kid, not you, right?Good point. I guess I'm trying to cope with the idea? I've never entertained the idea, really. You never do until you meet a mom you want to fuck.
>>28575269Not. your. problem. Thats the whore moms problem.
>>28575283I feel like you just lack empathy here. I might be wrong, but damn. What made you have such a cynical view on the matter?
>>28575293>I feel like you just lack empathy hereIt has nothing to do with empathy, if you go out of your way to sacrifice yourself for everyone you pity youre going to destroy yourself and be miserable. You have to look out for yourself, and raising another mans child he had with a whore is not a good use of your time, money, or energy.
>>28575304What life experience made you think like that? Not trying to judge, just to understand, feel free to ignore the question.
>>28575313Maturing. But dude just think about it logically, you don't need any particular experience in this regard to know that raising another mans kid is just ridiculously self-sacrificial for no reason. There are plenty of women who don't have kids yet.
I think it’s all right, it has its benefits. The people who discard such an option are not always happy. Better be happy with somebody else’s kid and probably your own as well, rather be super sensitive about it and wanting to die in an empty flat.
>>28575189If you have kids it's normal to date a woman with kids and most likely but you have no obligation otherwise
>>28575326Of course there are other child-free women out there, it just seems cruel to me to discard a woman just because has kids. Shit happens, people marry too soon with the wrong kind of person, does that mean they should be doomed to be alone forever? What if you had a kid and no woman would consider you as a partner for that. It seems to me like your position in the matter is rather emotional than logical. I don't know, I guess we come from different enviroments or something, I don't get you Anon.
>>28575293The guys saying it's not your problem is just being blunt. Fact of the matter is that you're pursuing a relationship with the mother, not her child. Saying that you're cleaning up the mess others made is harsh. But as single parent families are usually dysfunctional, 'mess' is not too far off. Bio dad came in a girl, mom chose to keep it, and now you're here to deal with it.Even if the kid genuinely sees you as their father, you might not be able to act as one. You and baby mama disagree on how to raise the kid? Well then, expect to hear> (S)HE'S NOT YOUR SON!Maybe you have a little falling out with the kid or he just became an angsty teenager that suddenly hates his parents?> YOU'RE NOT MY DAD!And there's really nothing you can do about it.Baby mama's cheating on you, is a horrible mother and wants a divorce? Yeah, you're not getting custody 99/100, even if the kid loves you more than his own blood mother. Even biological dads would be disadvantaged even is such a situation. And you might need to pay alimony and child support anyways, even if it's not your kid or your fault it came to a divorce.Not saying you should drop this relationship necessarily, just consider the problems that might arise. I hope you can become a great father and husband. But fatherhood is sacrifice. Remember that.
>>28575189Listen. If you are a high value man. Tell me what you think a single mother can bring to the table?You will never be first in the eyes of that woman. You will always be 2nd after her kids. Whereas, those kids are not of value to you. You're dating her for her, not the kids. So you will always be last. You have to realise. A woman bringing in kids to your relationship is not an ASSET. Its a LIABLITY. A hinderance. You won't be able to have the same life with that woman that you could if she didn't have kids with another man. Single mothers are selfish.https://youtu.be/H_HA11pALJ8
>>28575293look. A SINGLE MOM. Is not looking for a HUSBAND, or a boyfriend, or a partner. She's looking for a STEP FATHER. That is how they think. They are looking at you as if you're going to be able to do the fatherly duties. They are not just looking at you as if they see you being a life partner for them. They just want a man to come along and take care of them and their kid, to make their life easier.
>>28575370> (S)HE'S NOT YOUR SON!I'm retarded.
>>28575189>Is it the kids fault? Absolutely not. But its not yours eitherWise words. Also, if were being totally honest, you would never love that kid as much as your own.
>>28575410and that woman will never love you as much as you love her
>>28575370Good points to take in consideration, thanks Anon.>>28575372Well, yea, I'll be second, but that also would happen with a biological son. If my wife dares to choose me before our son I would have a big issue with that.>>28575383Granted, she's definitely looking for someone to help out, I'm not question that point, but a step father can't be the only thing they look for, there's gotta be a sense of genuine wanting and desire. Not every woman can be this utilitarian thinking machine, totally devoided of love and emotion.
>>28575189It's a case-by-case basis, not all single mothers are irresponsible whores, some just get dealt bad hands in life and are put into the position. It's all about the why, like most things. A crack whore mom and a mom who lost her husband in a tragic accident aren't the same thing, so just figure out the particulars.
>>28575423>but a step father can't be the only thing they look for, there's gotta be a sense of genuine wanting and desire. Not every woman can be this utilitarian thinking machine, totally devoided of love and emotion.Listen to this these next words very carefully. You. Are. Wrong. You are wrong. The single mother is not looking for love. She is looking for a checkbook, help with manual labor, a babysitter- Aka, a step father.You could be fun. Maybe you're the best sex of her life. And you're level headed. But you only pull in maybe $32k a year? Psh, no. Oh no. Shes not going to be ok with that. That is not nearly enough to help her take care of her kids. Shes looking at you as a resource. Not as a lover. It doesn't matter how great a single mom thinks you are. If she knows that you can be a resource for her and her kids. You're out.
>>28575436what about if a woman is a single mother because when she was 22, she had a casual hook up with some guy from tinder and got pregnant and didn't know who the father was? Sometimes people make mistakes. That was a mistake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCpZg8JFsxM
>>28575490Dating a single mom is also a mistake then
>>28575473Maybe that's how stuff is in the US, but here in Europe things are different. Both of us have to work, both of us take care of the household in equal conditions. There is no monetary pressure to the equation, this thread was more about the possible psychological implications raising a kid that's not yours might carry.
>>28575509>Both of us have to work, both of us take care of the household in equal conditionsnta. But imagine spending your time and financial resources to take care of another man's sperm. It would be different if it was an adoption. where the kid was truly abandoned. and you and your wife decided to adopt a kid to get him out of the shelter. like you would a pet. But thats HER kid, that she had with another man. It's part HER and part HIM. The man's DNA flows through that child's veins. And you're the one paying for it
>>28575189Do you realize the MEANING of the "cuck" word?In biological terms, you have ben PARASITED.Good luck anon.
>>28575189> Isn’t there a sort of nobility to step up and help a little fella so he can be normal and actually have a chance at life?You're dating a single mother so you can get to their child?You're a nonce.
>>28575274>You never do until you meet a mom you want to fuck.lol well I thought about it plenty of times before that but when it really gets to you is when you start talking/hanging out with the kids and shit>>28575304>You have to look out for yourself, and raising another mans child he had with a whore is not a good use of your time, money, or energy.And it's different if it's your child.. how, exactly? If you wanna look out for yourself, you should prolly just avoiding having/raising children all around, don't you think?>>28575313>What life experience made you think like that?Prolly fucking NONE, but I'm just guessing>>28575358>What if you had a kid and no woman would consider you as a partner for thatNooo, because it's different for man than it is women. When men have a kid already, other women can smell it on him, like a pheromone or something, and it makes him more attractive to them.. Just taking a shot at what that guy's answer mighta been if he actually answered btw lol>>28575509>Maybe that's how stuff is in the US, but here in Europe things are different. Both of us have to work, both of us take care of the household in equal conditionsThat's how it is in the US too, my nigga>>28575515What if the dude died or is just 100% out of the picture for whatever reason?
>>28575189OP, I know you probably think of yourself as a loser since you're considering dating a single mom unironically. But please, let me tell you that you are not a loser, and that you are better than that.Not even casual sex is worth it with single mommies given the implication that 1) the poor bastard kid thinks every man coming in the whore mother's house is the next daddy, and 2) there is a HUGE risk of getting baby-trapped, and the obvious child support sodomy that will be inflicted on you as the whore mother will refuse to abort your bastard.Don't do it, OP. Come on. Its literally better to be a so-called "incel" than being a whore mother with a pickanniny or two.
>>28576050Also>I myself am the son of a single motherI'm one too, and I would rather have not been, to be honest. You should already know as well that your mother wants the best for you, so if you dare to date a single mom, she will have complete disdain for you, btw; mine does, as she doesn't want me to raise a pickanniny or a brown indio little shit.>And rail some latina pussy in the meantimePlease reconsider, OP. I'm a latino myself, and I know damn well that latina single mommies ALWAYS have a cartel member ex-boyfriend/baby daddy who will never be responsible for the kid -- yet, if the fucker is still alive, he will have ZERO restraint from making your life worse for dating his ex-gf.Don't date latina single mommies, moron.
>>28576050>1) the poor bastard kid thinks every man coming in the whore mother's house is the next daddyThat's actually not true, believe it or not. Unless you are acting like a dad to them, and you're there that often, etc.. then they won't see you as their dad, or their bonus dad or whatever, they'll just see you as their whore mom's boyfriend or fuckbuddy lol. Kids aren't retarded, you know?>2) there is a HUGE risk of getting baby-trapped, and the obvious child support sodomy that will be inflicted on you as the whore mother will refuse to abort your bastard.Copper IUD is the best way to go nowadays man, worth every god damn penny. I'm literally willing to pay for one for any girlfriend I get, I don't care if we've only been together 2 weeks, still fucking worth itOh, and you can talk em into that abortion most of the time, if you try hard enough lol>>28576078>I'm one too, and I would rather have not been, to be honest.What was/is your mom like, anon? I'm curious. You kinda sound like you have a good mom, which is a whoooole lot different than half of these single mothers out there, I'm tellin ya>Please reconsider, OP. I'm a latino myselfOh, yep, I gotcha. See, white single moms are fucking different species altogether man. Listen, you're right with how you think about single moms, and giving them a chance and all that shit, but I'ma tell you straight up, the MAJORITY of the time, white single moms are fucking batshit crazy, out of their fucking minds, not worth your effort, not even the poor kids will benefit from your sacrifice, TRUST ME. Not always, but definitely the majority of the time Now y'all Mesicans are different, y'all's single moms are like you said, cause the baby daddy was some fuckin cartel member or drug dealer sorta thing, but usually the girl is still a decent person and shit, right? Or so it seems to me, at least
>>28575293he's an incel that has 0 life experiences and sees everything in black and white. it's useless arguing with them. they learn everything about the world from facebook images
>>28576138>they'll just see you as their whore mom's boyfriend or fuckbuddy lol. Kids aren't retarded, you know?I was thinking of those poor kids less than 7 years old; but over that age, yeah, they definitely know. Genuinely feel bad for them since a friend of mine lived like that with her mother, and has had the worst BPD symptoms since forever.>Copper IUD/abortionsI personally still wouldn't trust single mommies, but I guess their fucking skills must be THAT amazing, no?>What was/is your mom like, anon? I'm curious. You kinda sound like you have a good mom, which is a whoooole lot different than half of these single mothers out there, I'm tellin yaShe is good and humble, and of good social standing given her manners, assertiveness, and a good job. But she never taught me any core man skills given how she never bothered to learn them herself and teach me, like driving and basic mechanics. Yet, regarding manly demeanor, she taught me well how to be confident, assertive, and have a good "emotional IQ" and sense of chivalry, if you believe on the lattee two things.>but usually the girl is still a decent person and shit, right? Or so it seems to me, at leastYeah, definitely. They would have been 10/10s if they were single and with no kids, but they get caught quite quickly during/after high school and end up getting pregnant by the worst possible men out there. Many such cases, sadly.Polite saging this thread since OP is being foolish a bit, and I believe he should think twice what he is doing -- preferably after fapping so as to release some sexual energy and not end up taking a regretful decision.
