This thread is for married or taken men to vent and discuss temptation to cheating. This thread is primarily for those who haven’t cheated on their wive but if you are a man who cheats or has been cheated on then feel free to share your story. As for any women who would like to share their story or perspective this is likewise welcomed.I am a handsome and fit 31 yo white male who has been married for 3 years. I love my wife and have a loving relationship with her. She is currently pregnant with our first child. I work a job where I must be very social and active and I meet new people every day. I find myself being tempted more and more by the opposite sex where I encounter very thirsty but beautiful women who make advances on me. I dealt with this just a handful of times a year in the past but now it’s more of a monthly basis. I’m not asking how to deal with this but would like to simply hear that I am not alone in this. I am a realtor before anyone asks.
>>27779441It's honestly easy for me just focus on yourself/enjoy the time with your family; so many millenial/zoomer idiots will never get to experience the joy we do as parents.
>>27779441Of course you're not alone idiot. Just remember the grass isn't always greener on the other side and women destroy men in family court.
>>27779587>>27779605I’m not saying that it’s necessarily hard to deny advances and to not give in. I find it pretty easy for the most part but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t think twice.
>>27779441this is why you have sex before marriage you coomer retards
>>27779763Then what do you want? You know you're not alone. People deal with this all the time.
Cheaters deserve the rope. Its okay to be tempted, but doing it makes you a bad person. I am tempted to rob the bank when I am in there because it would temporarily make my life better, but not only do you eventually get caught, it makes you a shit person who can never be trusted. I will not ever date a woman who admits to having cheated in the past. You wanna see a woman seethe? Get her to admit that she has cheated on a lover in the past then break up with her and say "sorry, in my experience once a cheater always a cheater is true" She will bitch about people changing, I was young, etc etc.... No cheaters just have shit morals. Never trust a cheater. Male or female.
>>27779441Married for ten years here. I've never had the opportunity to cheat before. I'm not very attractive. I do wonder what would happen if I was presented with an opportunity. I worry that I might give in. I guess you don't know what you'll actually do until that moment comes. You can imagine what you'll do. You can think you know what you will do. But you'll never really know until you're actually tested.
>>27779775I had sex with a lot of women before I got married. Have you even had a gf before?>>27779956I want this >>27780309>>27780183>Cheaters deserve the ropeOk incel. I’ve never cheated and I think it’s shitty too but I think you’ve never been in a relationship before to understand how it is possible to fathom.>>27780309>I wonder what would happen if presented with the opportunityThis is the question a lot of guys ask. I have been tested a lot and to pretty great extents but have held my resolve. Just recognize that there is always possibility of an opportunity arising and know how to deal with it.
>be me>at work>girl I work with 10 years my younger constantly flirting with me>I never reciprocate until last week>chatted for a while and went out to lunch together with another coworker>coworker goes to bathroom>girl tells me how attractive I am and how good of a husband I must be>follows up with the fact that she’s moving apartments and would like my “help”>respectfully declineWhy are these tests so hard? Young hot pussy on a platter for me
>>27780417>This is the question a lot of guys ask. I have been tested a lot and to pretty great extents but have held my resolve. Just recognize that there is always possibility of an opportunity arising and know how to deal with it.I think I'd have the resolve as well. I'm pretty sure I would stay strong and decline any advances or opportunities, but I'm just not certain because I don't have proof yet. But I think it really is a guy thing where we are hardwired to have these kinds of thoughts even if we don't act on them. We will always think about it. We will always imagine sex with this or that woman. It might be evolution or biology or something, perhaps it's just our primitive nature where having these urges leads to more sex with more women and more offspring and a greater mixing of the gene pool--and that urge used to be advantageous back in the day. Perhaps no more and it just lingers. But we are men, not animals. We have the gift of reason and the ability to overcome our biological imperatives.
>>27780417>Ok incel.Nope. just was cheated on earlier this year and that is why I know how damaging it is.Fuck cheaters. Its okay to look but when you cross that line and cheat you become scum.
>>27779441Married man here, 12 years into relationship (married for 2.5... yeah, judge me).I have been cheated on by a previous partner. It sucks. It hurts deeply. That's probably one of the reasons I wouldn't allow myself to do it.>>27779605This Anon speaks truth.Sharing one story of the past, while wife and I were still dating:>still in college>very attractive classmate started to get close to me>sweet, funny, affectionate, kind of flirty but in a way it could be dismissed as "friendship">starts to live rent free in my head>I realise I'm falling for her and think long and hard if I'm no longer in love with my (then) GF>I'm still in love with GF>diminish contact with classmate as much as possible>she finds it weird and tries to reach up to me but I stand my ground>feelings for classmate quickly disappear, feelings for (then) GF still strong>eventually told GF, she got somewhat upset but was glad I was honest and forgave meNothing of the sort ever happened since, BUT I get hit on sometimes, and sometimes they're attractive.I just know what my values are, what my priorities are, and whenever some girl hits on me I take it as a confidence booster and use the mood to be more pleasant around my wife when we get home.It's really not difficult for me to resist temptation. Sure, I never had something extreme like a hot girl literally trying to have sex with me right there and right then, but even if such a thing happened, I don't think I would give in.It helps that I find my wife attractive and love having sex with her. Even if sometimes it doesn't happen as often as I wish it did, it's always great because she's always enthusiastic as she loves my dick. That helps, too.I hope this helps.
Why do we even still have marriage? Haven't the last several decades demonstrated that it's a meaningless concept?
>>27780497This. We are hardwired to fuck everything we can. We just have to overcome what may present itself to us. Sex for men and women is way different though because unknown I can fuck a girl and toss her out the door after I nut. I know they say women need emotional attachment to have sex with someone. I’m not entirely sure and won’t claim to know but it’s safe to assume it is something more that women need in a mate.
>>27780522Sorry to hear bro. I agree in any case though. I’ve never been cheated on except in hs but we weren’t really cheating. Just a hook up
>>27780573Based. Avoid settings that will put you into a situation like that. If something happens in your day to day just distance yourself quickly. Infidelity is a choose after all
>>27780585No. Marriage is cool. Incels who never had a chance at a relationship are the only people who have this mentality.
>>27779441I'm 33 with a kid and have cheated. DO NOT DO IT if you possess a soul. The feeling of disgust for yourself is extreme after you've done it. If you ask me you literally have to be a psychopath to be able to live with yourself after cheating.
I’ve been married for 22 yearsI provide a tremendous lifestyle for my wife. I am in great shape and trending up. My wife keeps getting fatter and meaner I have a harem of woman I low key flirt with. Primary is this married woman who used to work for me. I’m fairly certain she’d jump my bones. She got a better job but still moonlights for me. We have discussed the “in general topic” of how bad an idea breaking up a family over cheating is. We have walked right up to the line where I’m pretty sure she wants me to cross it. Then there is a handful of other human females I think I could pull if I wanted…….. but I don’t…… I just love my kids so much I want to provide them a stable home more then bang strange. My youngest ages out though, I’m out. I think I’ll be mid 50’s and still be able to do well. Right now early 40’s I think I could get some 20 year olds. In 10 years I think that ship will have sailed. To op directly. When your wife is pregnant your urge to cheat is naturally at its highest. You have to resist, that’s just not a good look.
9 years. easiest thing I've ever done. never been tempted at even once. no other woman I've ever met is as frictionless, trouble free, or self motivated
You guys need to step it up. There are fags married to women that don't cheat on their wives. I know because I am one of them.
>>27779441>I am a realtor before anyone asks.Aren't you supposed to be gay then? Most all male realtors are fags.
>>27781164>Right now early 40’s I think I could get some 20 year olds.I turn 40 this month and you just gave me so much fucking hope with that sentence dude. Thank you.
>>27781139>Incels who never had a chance at a relationship are the only people who have this mentality.Or anyone who has witnessed virtually every other marriage end in divorce over the last several decades, and virtually every marriage that didn't be full of problems like alcoholism for example.
>>27781190>fag married to a womanwhat? also why did you marry a woman if you're gay?
>>27781493Tbh it was a best friend who fell in love with me without knowing about my gayness. Didn't have the heart to turn her down, and eventually got engaged. I love her now, but pussy took some getting used to. Tbh the sex now is p good. Sometimes I feel like im missing out, but I love what I have too. She lets me raw dog her.
>>27779441I think people who are tempted to cheat are stupid dribbling low IQ retards. Imagine being a slave to your urges AND your wife isn't good enough to satisfy them. I never get tempted to cheat, I value myself above all else and I chose the woman I think is worth my time and intimacy. The richest 21 year old woman in the world couldn't get me to cheat, seriously, who is she that I should care? I also don't waste my time jerking it to porn or thinking about women.
>>27781609Thx m8. Just trying my best to repress and honestly its not that hard im gaining a taste for cunny the longer im with her.
>>27781164>other human femalesalien spotted
>>27780585If anything contemporary times have proven the necessity of traditional marriage in its growing rarity.
>>27779775How is he a “coomer retard”? For just thinking about sex with another woman?
>>27781157based. what was the scenario where you cheated?
>>27781164maybe talk to your wife about her weight and be mindful of her attitude. is she going through menopause or something. i hear a lot of women totally change for the worse when they are going through menopause.>>27781186based. you have really never been tempted by a hot young girl? not even a thought?>>27781190kek.
>>27781202sometimes i wish i was when a hot chick flirts with me at work. i dont know many gay guys in the industry personally desu. i dont live in a city though, id imagine thats where they are.>>27781559>>27781647gay men dont exist lol dudes just need a hole>>27781604what about rich dudes with money and high iq? they cheat all of the time. mainly because women are tossing themselves at them.>richest 21 yo?why richest. who cares about how much a woman makes. is she hot? lol
>this threadMen are so gross.
>>27779441...I literally don't get it.I have a lovely, wonderful wife and I am in sales. Other women are "dead" to me now. I have filet mignon and so on at home, why eat McDonald's? Because it is there? Pffft.
>>27784087you dont understand the male sex drive. if anything you should be happy if you read the thread as a most of the men here havent cheated on their wives and havent even thought about it. your probably just an incel any way.>>27784099if you truly have never been tempted then i dont get you too. i have a hot wife who i love and like i said i will never cheat on her but as i said i have women regularly throwing themselves at me. i have definitely thought about fucking them but i know i have my wife obviously. do you encounter hot young women regularly at work?
>>27784136There's millions of men who are happy in their marriage and don't feel tempted "to fuck young pussy on a platter" - not every man is that way, just you and perhaps the majority. By your logic your wife should be horny for any man who is taller and more handsome than you, or has more money. Cause that's the female sex drive. Moron.
>>27784136>do you encounter hot young women regularly at work?Buddy, I said - I am in sales. I am always interacting with sales and marketing types and marketing has a few "camps" - faggots that want to be "creative", average girls that are into "arts", and smoking hot women that know that THEY are the marketing.In humility I can say I am a tall, in-shape, good-looking guy with a deep voice that makes good moeny.Yes - women hit on me.They seem to hit on me MORE when they find out I am married.Not interested. Frankly, you sound like a few guys I know>"Dude, bro, let's go to the strip club! We can look at naked women and if we give them a lot of money they will stand near us and shake their tits! Dude, you gotta come!"Booooooo-ring. Why stuff $30 $1 at a time into the thong of some trash so she will shake her tits near me when I can go home and actually have sex with a woman that loves me?I very literally don't see the appeal, but I know strip clubs make a fortune and a lot off married men.
>>27784141>There's millions of men who are happy in their marriage and don't feel tempted "to fuck young pussy on a platter"never said there wasnt retard>not every man is that way, just you and perhaps the majority.exactly, likely a majority of men likely feel this.>By your logic your wife should be horny for any man who is taller and more handsome than youfundamentally wrong (not surprising) as women dont base their attraction solely on looks. women have to base their attraction on many aspects of a man in order to be with him. men, for the most part, just desire an attractive women and do not care about any accolades, education, or money that they make. if anything, i would argue, these things act against their attractiveness towards most men>Cause that's the female sex driveno it isnt. women dont know what they are attracted to as far as sex drive is concerned. however, they have requirements from men they want to be in a relationship with. which is very different.cant tell if you are an actual women or an incel. i think woman, because you actually sound stupid rather than like you just dont know what youre talking about.
>>27780585Women are starting to realize it's a trap, so men become all the more desperate for it as they grow aware of how brutal hypergamy is. Alas, this thread proves women right, as usual.
>>27779441Can we get a name for this beauty? Reverse search gives me nothing.
>>27779441I have a pregnant wife, we are of the same age as OP. And because of her pregnancy, she can't have sex! Even before that I had the desire to cheat, but now I would go crazy!!! I have to fap once or twice a day in order to function!
>>27784151>salesthis is very vague. this could be anything. additionally, you could be at a lumber yard or something. not many women there. thank you for clarifying though.>They seem to hit on me MORE when they find out I am married.this>Not interested.im not saying im interested in any girl that flirts with me or even really consider anything with her. its more so just an innate feeling that fucking her brains out would be cool. more so of a subconscious feeling. i see that you dont get this.>strip clubno, i have never been to a strip club and do not go out to bars and drink or anything. i go to work and go home to wife. i just deal with continual waves of good looking young girls who would spread their legs for me in an instant and i simply have an instinctual desire to fuck them for a split second. never cheated ever.
>>27784351sorry man, i wonder the same thing myself. perhaps its better this way.>>27784357i can see this and hope that this isnt my future. i still have sex everyday but i can tell she is starting to not feel it. i have similar sex drive too. how bad does it get? how far along is she and when did you stop having sex? also you havent cheated right?
>>27784377I cheated... While we started dating.. But not in marriegeAs soon as she got pregnant, she stopped, and only 1/3 of the pregnancy is over, 2/3 to go!
>>27784332Yes you dumb fuck, men evolved to feel attracted to "variety" and women to "value" meaning that if your wife meets a guy who is superior to you in looks and status, it would only be natural for her wanting to cheat on you with him and get him next.Faggot coomer.
>>27784395Prepare yourself. Pregnancy last 9 months. Don’t expect her to have a sexual thought for at least 4 months after she finishes gestation of the new human. It’s going to be over a year before you have sex again. Godspeed anon
>>27781186cool... congratulations, I wish you all the best. but that is not the case with me. And if I really love my wife
>>27784412Just the thought of it already made me sick!I feel how much it bothers me, I sleep less, I'm nervous, I'm less productive...
>>27779441>>27784357What hurts me most about all of this is that society has understanding of women's hormonal needs. (meno break, postpartum depression and so on)but when a man complains, they call you a pig
>>27780183That's a bit harsh men, people do change
>>27784055Went to a music festival. A hot thot got touchy with me, went back to her camp and then fucked the shit out of her in the woods
>>27779441What causes the temptation to cheat? I’m extremely satisfied with my sex life (the most I’ve ever been), my girl adores me, does anything I’d want and I love her company. But when she goes I can’t help but want to cheat, I’ve still got Tinder installed and the girls who match me and message me are hot as fuck. I don’t get it. I know that I’m just horny but it feels like there’s something deeper, I feel like I’m maybe self destructive or wanting something dangerous and “wrong” in my life or I’m just plain selfish. When me and my girl first started hooking up, I was cheating on my previous girlfriend with her so it felt so exciting and dirty but now we’re just like an old married couple, there’s no stakes or danger anymore. No one to catch us. I never used to be like this when I was younger, I don’t know what’s changed.
>>27779441It's probably the years into your marriage. There are years when a couple has more hardships, and it goes like this: 3rd year, 5th year, 7th year, 10th year, 15th year, 20th year. In the anniversary years of hardship is when more couples break up.In the first 3 number (3-5-7) is the temptation to cheat, because you feel still young and attractive. The years after are usually because of hardships related to children and financials.As a woman who is 31 years old and is married with a man who cheated on her years back, I can see the pattern clearly. My man was also very attractive, especially while he was getting closer to his 30s. It's because of this: Late-bloomers and bitches who played too long realized that all the "good" (good-looking/well earning/you name it) men are already occupied. They still don't wanna have a beta guy and so they try to snitch someone else' man. The man feels tempted because his ego is boosted and usually at this time the wife has some other issues (yours pregnant), and the man is not feeling valuated enough by his woman. Maybe the man decide to cheat, but he will only realize the mistake when he sees his wife breaking down and loosing the comfort she provided etc. Also the bitch the man cheated with will turn out to be what she is, a hysterical black-mailing witch, or just the same as you wife, but then what would be the point of cheating. The new pussy feels good only for a while, then everything is the same+ the shame from cheating.
>>27784395Thanks for the warning bro. It’s good going into it prepared. Sorry to hear about that.>>27784400No faggot. I’m saying women The way women look for a partner and what they’re attracted to aren’t the same thing as women don’t know what they’re attracted to. Learn to reading you fucking nigger cunt faggot
>>27784349Both men and women see it as a trap. Marriage also sanctions a lot of abuse. It's also unrealistic for most people, who are incapable of dedicating themselves to a single person for more than several years.
>>27786765Are you denying that women evolved to find men with power/status sexually attractive and worthy of upgrading? If men evolved to "find hot young pussy tempting" why are you denying how female sexuality/seeking-new-partners works in that regards?Why would your wife not be sexually and romantically attracted to more powerful and handsome men than you? Retarded bitch homo.
society should be more honest about mens natural desires (having sex) rather then restricting it. Most cultures on earth are used to their men sleeping around but not in the US and a good portion of the west.
>>27786056I feel my self on the precipice to becoming this. I love my gf but things are just stale. I just want variety with sex. Im different in the sense that I don’t feel something deeper with other women. I can just bust a nut and never talk to the rando again.
>>27786706This. Totally based. So you stuck with your husband after he cheated? Why? Just out of curiosity.
>>27786952You keep asking whether I agree with the same thing despite the fact that I was the one who stated it to begin with. I’m done conversing with you lol
>>27787041Ok cuck so you are fine with your wife being sexually and romantically attracted to men who are taller, fitter and richer than you. Cuck.
>>27786952>Why would your wife not be sexually and romantically attracted to more powerful and handsome men than you?Because she would be a woman who I am a match for and who those other men aren't.
>>27787300Unless you're either dating down or you're literally Chris Hemsworth (so it doesn't matter if your wife is a TurboStacy, she ain't gonna get someone better than you), there will always be some guy who she perceives as being more valuable/attractive than you. Always.
>>27787321>there will always be some guy who she perceives as being more valuable/attractive than you.But she'll be practical and know they're out of her league, so who cares? I'd feel the same way towards some women.
>>27787330Nononono I may have expressed myself badly.There will ALWAYS be some guy who she perceives to be more valuable/attractive than you THAT SHE COULD HAVE SEX WITH.UNLESS you're dating down and she literally can't do better than your 7/10 ass because she's a 4/10, and no man 8+ will touch her even for free and easy sex.
>>27787360>THAT SHE COULD HAVE SEX WITHNot if I married her. I'm not marrying a woman who has better options than me, that would be stupid.
>>27787369Hence, dating (or marrying) down.You're a 7/10 (low tier photographic model) marrying a 4/10 (chubby with unimpressive face).
>>27787385>Hence, dating (or marrying) downSo like every other man who bothers marrying and isn't a retard? I don't see your point.
>>27787396>coomer cuck man who is married to a 4/10 and posts on 4chanLMAOOOING AT YOUR LIFE
>>27787408I'm not married or planning to, but if I were to get married it wouldn't be with someone with better options than me. Enjoy your eventual divorce like the retard you are in that case.
>>27787424>t. mad as fuck
>>27787396If "dating down" is your main strategy not to get cucked, then you do you, but for the love of God I'd never be able to.I can't imagine staying married for years with an uggo wife and still feeling attracted to her. Also, if "she literally can't do any better" is her main mechanism not to cheat, all it takes is one bad year that you get a little sick and a little fat, and now that 6/10 coworker of hers starts to become a valid option for a Bull.
>>27787426Mad over? Read my posts, I never said or acted like I was married because I'm not.
>>27787427>all it takes is one bad yearWhich is why I'm not planning to get married. There's nothing in it for a man who can take care of himself.
>>27787433LMAOooo hahahaha mad as fuckkk
>>27787443>don't plan to get married, ever>talks about his (theoretical) strategy to keep a wife faithfulYeah pick one dude, or else GTFO.
>>27787456>can't have a marriage strategy if you don't plan to get married???
>>27787477Talk is cheap my friend.Put your life where your mouth is, otherwise your advice is worth nothing.>here, let me advise these day traders about selling their house to invest it all in this trade here even though I would never do day trade myself
>>27787499Tell me what exactly is wrong with my strategy. Why are you even getting married in the first place?
>>27779441>who make advances on meAutist here. How does an advance look?>would like to simply hear that I am not alone in thisI have that with my gf, we have a kid together. Trying to get her into a ffm threesome though since day one. If all agree it's not cheating. Didn't work so far, been three or so years now with her.
>>27787523>Tell me what exactly is wrong with my strategy.As someone who will never get married, you obviously didn't care to think about the downsides of your strategy. You just tossed out some lame strategy as ~le brilliant solution~ without actually worring about it's downsides, because you don't give a shit.Having to stand your 4/10 wife, who possibly is only faithful because she literally can't do better for life is a terrible burden, one that only a married guy, or a guy who has thought through the idea of getting married, could understand.>Why are you even getting married in the first place?Same reasons men got married in the 30s and 50s. Today we have plenty of reasons NOT to get married (that didn't exist back then), but the reasons TO get married remain the same.
>>27787580>Having to stand your 4/10 wifeI wouldn't marry a 4/10. I don't need to go that low.>is a terrible burdenWhy? What are you marrying for?
I'll chime in with a different perspective than what I've read here. I've been with my girl for over 5 years now. The urge to cheat is growing increasingly strong. We just traveled to Europe and the women there were so beautiful I thought about breaking things up while we were on vacation if it meant unchaining my dick. The thing is, I don't think "cheating" is wrong. I love my partner and truly can't imagine loving anyone else, but I need to sleep with other people from time to time. Personally I wouldn't even care if she cheated on me occasionally. Life, to me, is meant to be about joy and pleasure whenever possible. The thought of judging someone harshly because they did something for the sake of their own pleasure is unfathomable to me.
>>27779441Things happened when I was a kid that led to a hyper sex drive as an adult. One woman would not satisfy my urges. I would fuck and I would still jack off three more times afterward. I've been to the bottom of the barrel and back and it took years to stop. I spent 14 hours in a porn theater once. I've cheated on every gf, almost 100% with prostitutes. I think back to the probably tens of thousands I've spent on hookers, porn, etc and wish I had it all back.
>>27784136>i have a hot wife who i love and like i said i will never cheat on her but as i said i have women regularly throwing themselves at me.post physique
>>27779441lMAO imagine getting married>just got home from this sweet, sweet asian chick gargling on my cock>we did some anal for 15minutes but she was really uncomfortable, so was I because I couldnt go faster than a snail, last time she bled.. so we fucked for the rest of the hour. >Got home 30 minutes ago and let my wife blow me, she said my cock smelt like cereal LOL???>My mind - 'nah babe that's just the residual eastern pheromones'>also my mind 'i cant say that lol...'>I say 'It's the new body wash babe'>boring sex for 30 mins, she loved it because I am le great actorinoYou boys are pathetic. Catchupppp -.-
>>27788492I'm not gonna do that u fat fuck
>>27779441Give in. Then when she finds out, takes your kids and half of your money whilst you are left in a cold lonely home, grafting on whores who want your money and a fun time whilst you become an empty shell that can only form sexual connections with the random bodies you fuck at cheap motels. Then you will hopefully find the answer on how your 'temptation' should be dealt with. Jesus says, “Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.” Because your tempation can ruin your own life. Become a christian man, go to church, Love your wife and fuck her every night.
>>27781157Damn. I’ve never cheated and this post still made me feel bad lol
>>27786706PERIOD sis, you said it so well.
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>>27779441This might be the most beautiful woman I've ever seen
>>27779441Signing up for marriage is pretty much foregoing all other women sexually which is why men should not just jump into it like dumb asses. Don't cheat. It's one of the more fucked up things you can legally do to people and all it takes is a little self-control to not do it. The dating scene is at its best when people respect marriages and when people don't cheat in general. Even when relationships don't work out, all the fish just fall back in the water. When people start cheating, it makes things ugly. Some people just don't recover from that. I don't think it's right to do that in general (some women thrive on it, but you know when you have one that's like that).
>>27779441>I encounter very thirsty but beautiful women who make advances on me.not every friendly female is interested in you. theyre just being nice.
32-year-old here, not married but in 2 years long relationship.I love her; she's the best girl I've ever met, smart, wise, good-hearted, drama-free, and loves me strongly. Quite good looking, but I'm literally 10/10 Chad - at least being told so by many different girls who were and still are obsessed with me, even after many years of no contact.I've had sex with hundreds of girls in my life, especially when I was travelling around the world. I always have had at least 2 girls who I fuck on a regular basis + some side ONSI still have not got bored of pussy. So, I still have sex on side from time to time as my sex drive is extraordinary. My girl never noticed. I would never tell her as I said; she's the best I've ever met.Maybe if we get married, it will change, but frankly, I doubt it.
>>27779587Nice coping, you soon-to-be divorced retard.
I have been cheated on and I have cheated. After a while the walls of morality fell away after being put in the line of fire too many times. Eventually I ignored my better judgement and surrendered myself to the human longing. Of course my wife was hurt because she always trusted me but also respected me even more for telling her right off the bat. It was never a thought of attraction for my wife because she is great. It was more primal and as many have said wanting to fuck everything. So I did but with very selective types. I lift, eat right and make a good amount of money. This is why I conditioned myself to let myself be in control while out of control. It was the novelty of new skin on my skin, the faces they made - the sweat. I was making sexual memories and I even had a few threesomes with my wife's friends. She was always against it until I came out and told her I just don't care to be with only her. A lot of people will judge me on this and that is fine. I will also judge men on if they are acting on what they want to do or if they are conformed to a broken society's skewed matriarchal standards. I was lucky though because yes divorce is a neck bleeder of a way to lose your wealth. Even right now my wife has a friend staying over and we fuck on the regular. I think in my craving raw sexual pleasure it makes me feel more grounded.
>>27789339I kind of want this. I cheated and it felt great but also shitty because I had to keep it a secret. It’s hard because I’m rich, good looking and just have a lot of nice things going. I spent my youth focused on my wife (or gf at the time) and focused on school and career. Now I’m I’m still young enough to have a high libido and also be attractive. It’s rough
>>27779441When i was 10 i walked in on my dad fucking my little sister's 16 year old baby sitter while my mother was heading into townI knew even then on an instinctual level that it was natural for men to be dominant over women in this way and so i agreed to keep it secret on the condition that we get mcdonald's that night
>>27787551>How does an advance look?when a woman makes it very obvious through eye contact, body language, and speech when she wants to have sex with you.>Trying to get her into a ffm threesome though since day onegood luck with that bro. i doubt youll be able to do it. some women just want you entirely to themselves. youll probably need to outsource.
>>27788023you would mind if youre wife occasionally cheat? i agree with most of what you said desu even though i would never do it but only for men if they were so inclined to cheat. i know how the male sex drive is. we can truly fuck anything with no attachment whatsoever. we jerk off all the time due to this. i think if one sex should be allowed to cheat it should be men. on the reverse i would never let my wife cheat. women cheating is something different entirely and is disgusting. the difference lies in the ease of having sex. women dont have to do anything and theyll have 1000 guys lines up to fuck them. men have a hard time to fuck
>>27788413i dont think for most men that one woman is enough to satisfy men sexual urges desu. did your gfs ever find out?
>>27788517likely larp but if true then fucked up>>27788579based>>27789137i am not a faggot and had sex with many women before my wife. women can sense a womanizer, im not delusional lol.>>27789279you still cheat on her? and she had no idea? she must have some clue.
>>27789339without the variety of sex, i feel it eating away at my soul desu. so are you guys still together? she openly cheats on you now too?>>27789356this. focus on my wife and relationship when i was younger (before her i fucked a lot but thought i was ok and mature and would never want another girl) but now that im older with opportunity literally everywhere it is soul draining. how did you cheat? hooker?>>27789376holy based
>>27789589She doesn't cheat because I already fulfill her needs and yeah we are still together. My needs just weren't eing fulfilled and she accepted that
>>27789581>>>27789279 (YOU) >you still cheat on her? and she had no idea? she must have some clue.Well, much less recently, as she got into shape and tries really hard to be my type (with success), she's becoming a trad wife material with succubus attitude in bed.So, fewer incentives. But I still have 2 young chicks which I invite for a night on a biweekly basis. My girl lives in a different city than me, we are doing long distances, so it makes things weird, but we decided to continue our relation. Frankly, I wouldn't mind if she had some side dick when I'm not there, but she is too in love with me and does not pay attention to other men.
>>27789593thats sick. i hope i get there one day desu. how is your relationship now with your wife?>>27789634>hope she gets side dickopinion discarded. shes not your chick if you dont mind if she gets fucked by other dudes. you dont know what its like to actually love a chick.
>>27789643Good if we give each other space
>>27789650does she ever bring up you fucking other women? what is the frequency of you fucking other women? i see you told her right away, it sounds like you just owned it and didnt care. i hear dudes who cheat are better off if they just right out with it and own it rather than groveling and begging for forgiveness
>>27789662She was very distraught and disappointed in me for two months and then after that she learned to accept it and still love me. I guess I'm not even really cheating since she knows but it's roughly 2-3 times a week with someone other than her. Recently I've been stuck on an international chinese student who is staying with us. My wife gets along with her and vice versa. When I take my wife out I take the other one out too as a triple date. If I do have someone else in mind it's usually the woman who makes the move on me first. Before the student I was with at least two different women every month except a few months when I just didn't care for sex.
>>27779441Cheat far away from home, don't get attached, wear condom
>>27789681>chinese woman who is staying with usholy shit thats pretty insane. how did you even swing that? lol. thats cool that youre so open with your wife. youre living a dream.
>>27789734I invited her back to our house for dinner wothout telling my wife and then told my wife she needs a cheap place to stay so we should let her take one of our guest rooms and that was that. I guess the biggest takeaway is to be open and honest to everyone. Women are far more accepting than men. Men have an innate fear of being judged much like women but women are more receptive to a man who is open with what he wants. I think there is an entire hidden world so to speak of men getting what they want because they just asked for it outright.
I have a different question. If your spouse cheats on you how would you control yourself? I find it hard to truly love a woman because if she would betray me like that I am 100% going to prison for double homicide.
>>27789756based. maybe i will try this. has she ever brought up a desire to cheat on you? if not how would you react if she did?>>27789806she is dead in my eyes. women cheat different than men imo. they need more than just physical desire. if they are willing to cheat on you its a reflection that they lack love for you. whereas men can just fuck and discard a woman like a piece of garbage.
>>27779441Married for 10. Cheated a few times. Trying to cheat again, but it's better to do it far from home. It can be a hassle.
>>27789834In the beginning she asked how I would feel and I said I wouldn't feel anything unless she was trying to spite me. She won't cheat though because I have given her everything she ever wanted. If she did she knows I would lose all attraction for her so she won't. If she did I'll just get with someone else
>>27789564>did your gfs ever find outNot a single time. I regret a lot of it, mainly over the money spent and the insane risks taken. I had a problem with no real way of knowing how to stop. It's also kind of weird the things you learn being in that "world" as it were but we're not here for that.
>>27789856did you get caught?>>27789901yeah makes sense. do you have new girls regularly or tend to stick with the same ones? you ever get feelings or has a girl gotten feelings that made things difficult?>>27789965why did you only bang prostitutes? more discretion? you ever have any issues with prostitutes? did you ever pick up girls?
>>27789992>why did you only bang prostitutesabsolutely discretion but I guess I didn't make the point that even when I didn't find prostitutes, I was in some seedy freaking places jacking off or taking other risks for a nut.>did you ever pick up girls?On occasion, yes. I'm not terrible looking. Not a 6'2" chisel-jawed chad but it's evident I go to the gym, i'm a professional and i'm well groomed. I pump-dumped a few strippers in the mix. I was having issues with one gf, I started fucking a massage parlor chick on the side one time.
>>27779441When you have a chance fuck those women because your wife has already fucked some guy.
>>27779441Married 13 years, we have sex pretty infrequently, 1 to 2 times a month on average. It's good sex when we have it but it just isn't a priority for her which sucks. That said I think about what it would be like to fuck random women a lot. I won't cheat because I love her and we have two kids, I don't want to be apart from them. And our relationship is pretty good otherwise. But fuck is the temptation there.
I have been with my partner for 13 years. She’s a great woman, hard worker, loving mother, kind disposition, good in bed, great cook, sexy body, and does everything to please me. That said, I love women. A few years ago I think she noticed and suggested MFF threesomes. We’ve been with a dozen women together at this point including one night where I had three women at once. These have been some of the best experiences of my life. In fact, I can’t think of anything in life I actually enjoy more than sex.It’s hard to explain, but I really only feel like myself when I am having sex. I am good at it. Also, I have led a life of discipline, sacrifice, restraint, and self-denial in almost all regards so when I am having sex with a new woman, it’s the only time I feel like I can truly let go. I have had multiple ltr’s and have been faithful to every partner I’ve had, but the urge to fuck other women has never gone away for me, even while looking down on other men who falter. Most of my youth was spent getting ahead of my station and it’s only been the past few years that I could somewhat enjoy the fruits of my labor. Now I see women everywhere that I want to experience. I keep to myself to minimize the temptation, but given the right circumstances I know I could easily be an unrestrained hedonist.
>>27779441Any promiscuous woman offering you pussy is literally just a coomer attempting to destroy your family and way of life for 5 minutes of tingles. Don't be flattered by these advance, you are a man not a pre teen girl. Be disgusted and offended.This is my cope anyway
>>27781186With your body like that and her body like this.No wonder.
.>>27779441If you are going to cheat on your wives, please head my advice - You only get caught for the following reasons1. Wife has access to phone2. Wife has access to e-mail3. Wife has access to financial accounts(bank accounts, telecom accounts)4. Wife has access to correspondence than indicate infidelity(you get e-mails/mail from hotel chains you've been staying at, etc.5. You fuck someone you both know6. You fuck someone and lie about having a wife and they rat you out when they discover the lie7. You have an affair partner that knows you have a wife upfront and they rat you out cause of circumstances8. You contract an uncurbable STD9. You tell her(If you're gonna be a cheater, don't be a pussy, live with the guilt)To avoid this shit:Only cheat with escorts or sugar babies(never girls you meet randomly, never a co-worker, never a mutual friend).Only cheat with high-end or very young girls(sugar babies under 21, or ~1k+ an hour escorts), exponentially lowers chances of unprofessional bullshit happening and also lowers STD chances substantiallyOnly fuck with protectionOnly meet in the hotel, don't take these bitches out for dinner and be caught in public with them.Burner phone app, don't have a second phone, use fake number via burner app and delete app when home, save no photos, create a burner e-mail that's not saved on your phone(never access it from phone, also use burner e-mail app as well, also don't use gmail, use protonmail or something to that effect). Set paychecks to split a portion to a separate bank account that you have set up so you receive no mail correspondence, set the address for receiving mail to another house once you get a Debit/Credit Card so you never even chance something getting sent homeOnce you're doing all these things it's impossible to get caught.
>>27791460> Only cheat with high-end or very young girlsBut don’t you have to expose yourself a little bit online in order to get in contact with these people and have them feel safe meeting you? Also what if I want more of a relationship thing where I don’t need to pay them. Wouldn’t another married girl work out?> Only meet in the hotel, don't take these bitches out for dinner and be caught in public with them.Makes sense but wouldn’t sugar babies want to do something besides meet at a hotel?
should i keep doing NNN?
>>27779441Reminder that cheating is immoral and there is no excuse for it. The "it's my libido" is not a valid excuse. Break up with your GF, or divorce your WIFE if you want to have sex with someone else.
>>27791610I think it’s good. As I get older I realize that cooming makes me have less energy. Also gets me mixed in with porn that fucks with my brain. I’m trying to get better at having sex without cunning too.
>>27791616>divorce your WIFEEven though I believe cheating is immoral, this isn't that simple in 2022. Many men got themselves in arrangements in which they'll get throughoutly screwed in family court if they divorce their wives. So, if they're unhappy with their wives, all they can do is:>suck it up and be a miserable "RealMan(tm)">get divorce-raped (and parentally-alienated) and utterly screwed for trying to play it fair>cheatSo I kind of understand why some men would cheat rather than divorce.I built my marriage around the possibility of bailing with relative ease, since there's just too many temptations for women in 2022 to just go full "strong and empowered" and start to Jada Smith their husbands. But it also comes in handy if one day I decide I want to be with someone else.Given the fact that we have an awesome marriage and are truly emotionally bonded to one another, I don't think any of these will happen, though. Still, better safe than sorry.
>>27791669it's getting fucking hard. first 2 weeks i was okay but now it's like my body has reset and i'm horny all the time. have you done NNN before?
>>27791686> I built my marriage around the possibility of bailing with relative easeIn what way? Like financially or you have options with other chicks?
>>27784357She can still have sex while pregnant. In fact it’s medically recommended to have sex regularly in the 3rd trimester, it helps loosen the birth canal or something.
>>27791697Financially.I strive to be/remain attractive so "having options with other chicks" is never out of the table. But it's the family court that is the real issue for most men.
>>27791694I did it before, yeah. It can be really difficult I know. For me it helps to avoid alcohol or caffeine. It’s not the end of the world to not keep your streak. For me I am trying to avoid the whole porn addiction thing.
>>27791594>But don’t you have to expose yourself a little bit online in order to get in contact with these people and have them feel safe meeting you?Yes but any reputable escort isn't disclosing this information. Even if you do the screening and give them your name/address/phone number/place of employment, this information is never getting leaked or exposed by them. I have friends who were athletes(professional leagues), and friends who are musicians, all of these dudes cheat on their wives and use escorts, you legit never hear about an escort exposing them . These dudes only ever get caught cause they're doing it in public, doing it sloppily, or cheating with randoms and Instagram thots. The escort will literally never betray you, it makes 0 business sense on her front to do that(this is also assuming you don't pull any shit like trying to cheat her out of money or doing something non-consensual to her). Sugar babies are pretty naïve, they usually ask for 0 information from me that could expose what I'm doing, young girls are prone to doing dumb shit so you do introduce risk there, but they're less likely to have HSV2 or HIV, so that's the trade-off.>Also what if I want more of a relationship thing where I don’t need to pay them. Wouldn’t another married girl work out?Your exposing yourself to a lot of risk, married woman might work but there's risk in approaching one and there's risk in her husband finding out and blowing up your spot, or her conscience getting the best of her, or her wanting more from you and for you to leave your wife. Shit always gets too messy, like you're pretty much asking for shit to blow up eventually if you do this. Also if you want a relationship outside your current one, maybe that's the sign you need to just be done with your current one. >Makes sense but wouldn’t sugar babies want to do something besides meet at a hotel?Depends on the girl
>>27790063you ever catch stds? sounds like you been throught the ringer.>>27790311if i was only having sex 1-2 times a month i would not be faithful. I am getting sex daily and i feel that it is not enough. its more so lack of variety than anything though>>27790741>see women everywhere i want to fuckyeah bro. you have a cool set up with your gf though. are you guys like weird hippie types?>>27790837unironically the way to be.>>27791460pretty based and true. nice guide anon. i dont condone it but thats the way to do it. escorts would definitely be the best course of action. a lot of dudes just go willie nilly into cheating without a second thought. always seemed retarded to me.
>>27779441Talk to your wife about the way you feel. It will keep uou honest since it puts it on her radar, and gives you a chance to talk about your needs.
>>27779441Been married 5 years, i still don't feel the desire to cheat. Yet i secretly hate my wife because of her sexual past and i often humiliate her for it with small subtle actions like hinting the clothes i brought for her last birthday were of discount/semi new/used goods because she herself was used goods
>>27792303This is based but also a LARP.Guys who are spineless enough to wife up a ran-through whore are too spineless to pull such based moves on their whore wives after marriage.
>>27779441Is this the designated cuckquean thread?
>>27792317Getting married or at least a woman with "a past" is something that the average guy will 100% do at some point if he doesn't wants to end up a perpetual incel. All women are just like that now. It's not about being spineless, is about lowering standards because you can't just fantaze about the trad virgin of your dreams. At some point you have to accept your reality, you just the chance of young love, you either marry the 30 years old whore or stay alone forever. This is not even about sex, it's about loneliness. you either date the whore or endure the loneliness and not all men can live without women. Yet the resentment due their past will never go away. You don't understand. Average men have to date the leftovers of the alpha's like hyenas or stay single forever.
>>27781604how often do you have sex with your wife?
>>27785157raw? how did she look?
>>27784081why would women flirt with you tho? arent girls who look for houses married or at least not single?
>>27784363>continual waves of good looking young girls who would spread their legs for me in an instantnoo you dont retard. young women dont go to realtors to get fucked especially not attractive ones, stop watching so much porn
>>27791610yes.>>27791616i dont cheat but like the other anon said it is hard for some dudes to just break away if their wife is a money hungry cunt who wont let them see their kids if they go divorced.>>27791686this>>27792259im debating doing this. this is a conversation that you cant really come back from. i would have no problem fucking other women if my wife knew and did not care. i will not cheat on her ever. this conversation will take some preparation and thought. its not necessarily about needs being met as she cant provide them. i just want to fuck other girls which is something she cant provide but i just jerk off for now. temptation is getting worse but i have no problem currently.
>>27789279imagine fucking some brown gooks thinking youre 10/10 chad
>>27792303damn dude that is rough. why would you wife up a whore? if i wifed up a whore i would feel no guilt whatsoever fucking other girls. how bad is it?>>27792345>old incels lowering standards>average men fighting over leftoversfair enough. but damn dude nothing is stopping you from becoming above average. make more money and looksmaxx and you can marry any chick. but thats besides the point.
>>27789734what a manchild you are >>27789681>>27789756youre both losers unironically. >oh yes i fuck da cihknorinooo im so alpha and abuse my poor wife lool hehe you will get what you deserve one day
>>27788023I don't understand why you wouldn't just get with a poly slut in the first place
>>27792362>old incels lowering standards>average men fighting over leftoversfair enough. but damn dude nothing is stopping you from becoming above average. make more money and looksmaxx and you can marry any chick. but thats besides the point.>>27792380no its not just clients. its mostly other real estate agents. a lot of women where i am at and theyre all young. covid created a generation of hot young women realtors. they are just everywhere in the job though.>>27792397like i said its not just clients, a good portion is but its just women in the industry. also in my daily life too. i am handsome and fit with money so im a magnet for hot horny women.>>27792431lmao this
>>27792443kys faggot. youre going to die the lonely virgin you are.
>>27791610>>27791669>>27792421how can you speak about NNN when you have sex daily and ploy on fucknig other women? are you retarded?
>>27791616this lolthey only stay with their wife bc they actually cant get laid at all and its just their OP fantasies of fucking girls which would never happen to these old men anyways
>>27786056>either/or get a copy now, it will save you a lot of mental exhaustion
>>27792469youre the pathetic incel who jerks off and fucks his wife daily bc he never got anything before that loli was like you when i was 20yo
>>27789806>>27789901mine doesn't cheat because I told her beforehand I'm going to mutilate the faggot and then ditch her like the stupid whore she is I'm batshit crazy and she knows it, so I think I might be safe from going to prison
>>27792362I literally got the virgin, crab-in-the-bucket.Just because YOU will never experience pair bonding, doesn't mean other people didn't.
>>27792477i still do NNN retard. i lasted two weeks this year. did it all the way through two years ago. im a dude with a dick with a friend group who has caught on.>>27792482ok incel. i would tell you to get married first before sharing your opinion but you have ever even had a gf. no hope for you lol>>27792497that makes sense kek youre a fucking khhv>>27792482>>27792497please read the OP. kingly fuck off as this thread is for MARRIED men or men with a gf. not faggot incels with no life or women experience lol.
>>27792717>i still do NNNso you arent fucking your wife? but make this thread?
>>27792717>ok incelstop projecting tiny wiener loser>not faggot incelyou are one. its literally true you only keep your 'wife'' aka bangmaid bc you would be instant incel again. if your bangmaid did what you do youd cry your eyes out in pain and ask god why this happened. youre literally an imbecile lol shit will get you
>>27791798Best sites to find high escorts or sugar baby?
>>27792784You can have sex without nutting, that is possible you know. Also a lot of women are only horny a few days a month
>>27792784I have a problem where I need to nut too much. I try NNN like everyone else to practice self control. Where are married men excluded from this?>>27792794>stop projecting>tiny wienerLol ok retard. I wasn’t kids when I said kill yourself
>>27792234>yeah bro. you have a cool set up with your gf though. are you guys like weird hippie types?No, I am an executive and she is in healthcare. We’re pretty professional and buttoned up people for the most part. It’s pretty good, but finding a third is always the problem and the effort it takes versus what I could pull by myself makes the temptation hard to resist.
>>27780183Hating men who cheat is actually part of feminist culture. You probably don't even self identify as a "male feminist", but you unknowingly are influenced by their culture. You see, prior to the 1960's men generally had concubines and this was seen as normal behavior. We used to understand that men and women are not the same biologically, and the expectations weren't the same either. Even according to modern polls, women claim that they are more betrayed by "emotional cheating", whereas men do not tolerate physical cheating, but we wouldn't burst a vein if we found out our girl had some little celeb crush or some shit. The "Both men and women cheaters are the worst ommmggg xD" argument is gynocentric as fuck, the reason being that women are able to emotionally detach from cheating whereas men feel much more guilt about it. Men used to have each other's backs, but you low test cucks look for any opportunity to punch sideways. Whatever it takes to remove your competition when you're a beta male, I guess.
>>27792373No joke she looked like one of those hot tomboy chicks that people post on here.
>>27793061so you are really not fucking your wife but make this thread? lol
>>27793469you fucked her raw? no condom? do people not think about pregnancies?
>>27793318youre a manchild and shes a bangwhore and you are probably ugly
>>27793507When you're drunk and horny you don't tend to think about stuff like that. Also here in Northern Europe abortions are not a big thing so a pregnancy isn't that bad. It's not the 1600s here like it is in other parts of the world (like the US)
>>27793553>hahha just abort the my baby bro
>>27793562Yes of course what else would you do? Have a kid that you don't want? It's literally a pill and then a bit of blood running out of the pussy and it's over. What's the big deal?
>>27793493I fucked my wife like 3 weeks ago retard what is so hard to understand. I didn’t make the thread nta
>>27792460>i am handsome and fit with money so im a magnet for hot horny womenLARPer
>>27793571>haunted ghost house pussy is normal
>>27779441I just turned 30 and have taken a viw of celibacy. I have never in my entire life had so many pieces of ass want me.It seems the aggressive flirts are usually FUCKING Hooes though.
>>27793818what do you even mean, i doubt girls just come to you stop talking about celibacy and in the next sentence humblebragging about getting ass
>>27779441I'm not married and don't want to derail your thread, but I'm 34 and fit with a vasectomy and just rail the shit out of bar girls and foreign workers on a weekendly basis and don't give a fuck about making a family on this doomed earth. Sucks to be you. Maybe you should try anal and then be sad and weird about it?
Married bros, as I’ve got older I realize how much I am attracted to young girls (like 18 year old for example)… the temptations are real
>>27779441A man cheating is much different than a woman cheating. A man can have a woman he's committed to, fuck someone else, and completely forget about that someone else in a day, and still love his woman. If a woman fucks someone else, it's a betrayal, pure and simple. We're different. The dynamics are different. Men are expected to provide, men are expected to protect, men are expected to give up their spot on the lifeboat; men get to cheat.Just be smart, and be discrete. If you're a good looking dude who makes money, your wife needs to understand you're probably going to cheat. There's an unspoken understanding between myself and my girl that I will occasionally step out, but I don't spend money on other women, I don't bring other women home, and I don't knock other women up.
>>27794057Don't be a fucking creep about it is all I can say. My 65yo dad has gotten into dating 30ish korean and japanese women and it's a bit unsettling when we meet. Like they are my age, and I'm not withered and bald
>>27794498>A man cheating is much different than a woman cheating. A man can have a woman he's committed to, fuck someone else, and completely forget about that someone else in a day, and still love his woman. If a woman fucks someone else, it's a betrayal, pure and simple. We're different. The dynamics are different. Men are expected to provide, men are expected to protect, men are expected to give up their spot on the lifeboat; men get to cheat.Look at this nigga living in 18th century Britain. The dynamics aren't different at all, they're far more complicated than you're equipped to understand. No wonder women run circles around you
>>27794552>The dynamics aren't different at allDo explain, you fucking NPC.>No wonder women run circles around youReading comprehension is really something you should look into.
>>27792888Seeking arrangements for sugar babies, eros/tryst for escorts. It takes a little while to figure out what girls are legit and real and trustworthy, I recommend for eros/tryst to only see women who have onlyfans/active twitter accounts until you get better at sussing out who's real and not real. Also just avoid women who are cheap, not a judgemental thing but just do the math on it. A girl who's doing $200 15 minute fucks is having sex with 6+ dudes a day minimum, a women who's charging 1000$ an hour with a 2 hour minimum is fucking 1 dude every other day if that and has regulars she's seeing constantly.For seeking, just find a young girl, be upfront your cheating on your wife, 80% won't care, half these bitches have boyfriends. Just look for the discretion and no string attached tags on a profile(you can even search by them). This is the most cost effective way to cheat, I don't even use escorts anymore cause I can blow loads in a pristine 18 year olds for $500 a night, might go up to 1k(or even higher) if you're trying to see older women(like 22-29) who already have established jobs and shit.
>>27794786Thanks, I’ve heard of some of those. I’m leaning towards the sugar baby thing since it seems more fun and less transactional even though it still is. My concern is putting a picture of myself on the website. Or let’s say I have no picture, but when I start chatting with girls eventually I’ll send them my picture and I’m a little paranoid about them seeing my face. I guess I could just FaceTime them or something?Besides that I’d probably have to meet them somewhere in public first. Or will they actually meet me at a hotel first time? Paying for a hotel without using my card is going to be a hassle as well. I’m guessing car sex is too sketchy even with a tinted SUV
>>27794786> be upfront your cheating on your wife, 80% won't careWhy not just lie so they don’t have anything on you? Probably should give them a fake name too, right?
I'm convinced that a significant percentage of infidelity and marital problems in general would be solved instantly if the wife just put out more and did kinkier shit.
>>27795267Reminder that most women over 30 have test deficiencies that make them averse to sexual shit. If you are married you should get your woman checked for it.
>>27794786What the heck is wrong with guys on this site?
>>27795267Walk in one day, lift up your wife's blouse, grab the back of her neck, and just give her a few pumps in the kitchen or wherever she's standing. This is the advice nobody will give you that literally works, but if you have the balls to do this, I guaranteed whatever "dead beadroom" wife you got will soak herself like you didn't think possible. The shock value of this will drive your woman absolutely insane. I'm serious. Walk up to her and pull out your schlong, lift her up, and pull her panties off. >B...but muh rape?!If your wife resists you beyond a "hee hee what are you doing stoooopp iiiiiit xD" and gets really defensive, your marriage is finished and/or you're getting cheated on.
>>27795088>My concern is putting a picture of myself on the websiteYou can set your profile to only be shown to people you view, take a photo that's not traceable and use it as the pfp. No one is going to care or find out, unless you live in a really small town or some shit I can guarantee it won't matter.>Besides that I’d probably have to meet them somewhere in public first. Or will they actually meet me at a hotel first time?Depends on the girl, that's why I'd just be straight up about the cheating, >>27795171 - This guy is right that you could lie but the more lying you do the more complicated it's going to be. If you're just straight up about why you need the discretion, most girls will understand. Sometimes the initial first meet is a coffee chat, sometimes you can go straight to fucking at a girls place or a hotel. Just be transparent about what you need and be willing to pay more to make that shit happen. Also just send the girl the money to pay for the hotel, if you're worried she's going to run off with the 200$ to book a room, you aren't well off enough to be getting a sugar baby
>>27795485>your marriage is finished and/or you're getting cheated onCan confirm. The first time my ex stopped me from doing this was a week after (didn't find out for another month) she drove halfway across the state to fuck some dude she knew in high school.If they're not 100% into it the relationship is already dead.
>>27795789Damn, sorry you went through that bro. How did you find out?
>>27793815Wtf are you on? How can anyone be anti abortion in 2022? Are you some retarded catholic lobbyist?
>>27795485Good advice, idk why women deny this and call it rape, doesn't matter what society spouts about equality, i still crave a dominant man to take charge, if that's considered rape then yeah i love rape, if its by your partner and he isnt an abusive asshole than I dont see the issue, surely other women feel the same way as well
>>27796027I'm not a wife (yet) but I would find it hot if my hubby did that. There's nothing more appealing that a husband who desires you and wants to use your body for his pleasure.
>>27795485i do this to my wife all the time she loves it. its your wife, i dont think that you can actually rape your wife.>>27796027>>27796305my wifes satisfaction was validation enough but thank you for further confirming. i just assumed most other men forced themselves on their wives and that this was normal. i knew i do this more than most because im extremely horny but my wife loves to be man handled.
>>27796380Raping is when the wife clearly expresses that she doesn't want to do it
>married a long time>bi for a long time>traveled for business>many opportunities to cheat but never did>wife decides she doesn't want to have sex any more>tell her I promised monogamy but not chastity>she shrugs>go out and explore my bisexuality>we have a don't ask, don't tell relationship
>>27779441>This thread is for married or taken men to vent and discuss temptation to cheating.I don't see the appeal, desu.
>>27796592That's incredibly sad
>>27795485>your marriage is finished and/or you're getting cheated onThis. Men, Occam's Razor, common sense, and your gut will rarely steer you wrong. Attraction can't be negotiated, and women like sex, therefore it stands to reason if a woman isn't fucking you, she's fucking someone else.Also... elephant in the room, and I'm kind of surprised/disappointed I have to spell this out to some guys, but if you're handling your shit, if you're providing what she needs, what she wants, if you're there emotionally, going to dumb shit with her family and friends you don't give a fuck about, and she's not fucking you... she deserves to be cheated on, or at the very least, you're not unjustified in doing so. I'm not talking about what society says is ok, that'll end in the woman's favor 9.5 times out of 10, I'm talking about what is objectively fair and how we're wired; women have been dropping the ball hard, assuming their head is in the game at all, and yet we're still expected to do all the stuff expected of men. One of many ways we live in a way we simply aren't meant to, and one of the many ways everything is fucked.Also, and this might seem odd if you've never heard this before, but if you're being discrete and smart about it, cheating on your woman will make her more attracted to you. On a primal level she'll know she has competition, and this competition anxiety will make her more attentive, more affectionate, and have her sucking enthusiastically; nothing is more taken for granted than a sure thing.
>>27796606Me neither.But my wife pulls off so
>>27796875That's life. "Don't ask don't tell" is the policy when it comes to whatever I do on the side. My girl knows she's out if she ever steps out on me, but she gets a free ride on my labors so it's all fair in the end. She also knows if she takes care of my needs I won't have to step out, so everything falls into place.For the record, I haven't been with anyone else in quite some time, not since we've gotten serious at least, and attraction isn't an issue... it's more of an understanding of what is expected, and what I will not abide. The problem with far too many men is it's either said or implied that they'll happily go on being a meal ticket and doing all the obligatory boyfriend/husband stuff regardless of the effort (or lack thereof) "their" woman puts in, and I just don't play that shit. Never have. Never will.Frame is important. Establishing it, maintaining it, there's so many little dos and don'ts I could share to avoid becoming a walking ATM/getting punked.>If a girl has ever mentioned doing something (sexual) with a previous partner that she's reluctant/refuses to do with you, she's Alpha-widowed, and you're not her first choice>Don't suffer/go along with "I'm a clueless idiot who can't function without her" humor (see: Kevin James) ,calmly state you don't find it amusing and no sell that shit, because it's a test, specifically, she's testing how much respect you have for yourself>Treat her like a queen, she'll treat you like a pawn>If her phone is always on Airplane Mode, you're not the only one she's flying with>If her phone has a cracked screen, she's for the streetsI can go on, if anyone gives a shit.
>>27779441I have literally no temptation at all to cheat on my wife. None. I don't even look at other women.
>>27797782incredibly redpilled take. Yes, women enjoy sex and get horny, even past 30, 40, etc... This is quite literally not an excuse barring medical problems. And even if it were valid for some medical reason, a woman who loves you and is attracted to you would feel extremely insecure about it and attempt to find workarounds, not just roll over in bed and give an "it is what it is" answer. Also correct about male cheating. Having some Sally on the side will subconsciously make you emit a lack of neediness aura about yourself that she wont be able to resist picking up on. "Dread game" works, whether or not plebbit seethes about using valid psychological strategies for locking down your shit with a woman.That's why treating men and women as equals with relationships is fucking retarded. Women are generally the gatekeepers of relationships and marriages, and initiate well over half (~70%) of divorces. What nobody wants to accept, is that strategies which make your woman head-over-heels attracted to you, even if it comes off as manipulative, creates the happiest and most stable relationships.
>>27798560>What nobody wants to accept, is that strategies which make your woman head-over-heels attracted to you, even if it comes off as manipulative, creates the happiest and most stable relationshipsAs the saying goes, if you want to learn how to fish, you don't ask a fish, you ask a fisherman. Women will sit there and tell men who are "such good guys!" that they paradoxically want nothing to do with, what they *think* they want... then meet a guy like me, and take a load in every hole (in an order that would surprise you!) after knowing me for a few hours at most, because I know what to say/do, what not to say/do, and how to say/do it. I'm not even trying to be edgy when I say this, but once you figure women out, getting them to do what you want becomes pretty elementary and formulaic.At the end of the day, there's a balance to be found in the vast grey area between total simp and total sociopath; one does not need to be (and should not be) an abusive piece of shit, but a man needs to be somewhat toxic to gain and maintain respect and desire in a woman.Not only that, but as anon mentioned, they're happier for it. They like a bit of unpredictability, a bit of danger, there's a reason women can pay lip service to "just wanting a nice guy" all the live long, then turn around and go get their guts rearranged by someone with neck tattoos. You can't be too safe. Your woman needs to respect you.
>>27793381>>27780183I hate male feminists
>>27781186You both look like the redditor/twitter type
>be me>34, tall, fit>single>could sleep with lots of women >don'tmfw
>>27795740> Also just send the girl the money to pay for the hotelThanks for the advice, that’s a good idea. You think these girls are smart enough to understand crypto so I can send them that? Best way to hide my trail.I’d probably even want to get to know them a little bit before fucking. I’m just really paranoid and don’t trust women, or people in general.
>>27798560>Dread gameYou do know that you don't have to cheat to makw it work, right?>strategies which make your woman head-over-heels attracted to you, even if it comes off as manipulative, creates the happiest and most stable relationshipsYes, and I literally achieve it by>being on my A game looks wise at all times>talking to attractive women>some of them naturally end up flieting with me>this gives me confidence boosts>sometimes wife witnessesIf anything, knowing that I COULD score other women but I'd rather not, as long as she treats me like I want her to, is what keeps her head-over-heels. In her eyes I'm a catch, and have the best of both worlds.I'm positive she would either leave me or at least become a massive bitch if I cheated and she found out, even if cheating would make her even more sexually attracted to me.You don't have to cheat to keep her interested.
>>27779587I’ve never once wanted to be unfaithful to my wife. We have been together since we were kids. We have our own child now, though, and I’m so tired I want to die. I’ve never been less content. I really hope it gets better after the first month or so. Newborn life is truly the worst
So I'm in my mid thirties, been with my girl for 15 years at this point. Don't normally go to strip clubs, because they aren't my thing. But I end up going to a club for a work buddies birthday. Mostly sit and watch football on the TV, and eventually end up alone as guys peel off to get lap dances or hit on the bartender. Stripper comes over, and she is hot as hell. Checks every one of my boxes. Asks if she can sit with me and I agree. Why the fuck not? I'm not about to start buying her drinks or anything, but she can sit where she wants and I have nothing going on.We immediately hit it off (yeah, I know, stripper, it's her job), and talk for like 4 hours about music, books, science. Shocked she's as smart as she is. It's one of the best conversations I've had in a long time. Weird night, but I go home and don't think of it again.Two weeks later, my brother is at a bachelor party at the same club and calls me for a ride. I go in to pick him up, and what do you know, same stripper is there and she recognizes me. She convinces me to stay and it's a repeat of the last time. Two hours just fly by without me noticing, only this time, I leave with her phone number.I am an idiot.We end up texting a few times, and she ends up inviting me to get coffee. This is where I really fuck up: I got coffee with her.I justify it by telling myself that I'm not going to do anything with her, she's a stripper. I just like talking with her. This obviously leads to us hanging out again. And again. And talking over IG. We start talking more and more. And the more we interact the more I find myself falling for her. After about a year of hanging out, we end up getting drunk together at her place, and all the feels come pouring out. We kiss, but somehow I save myself from going further. I decide I can't do it anymore and cut shit off.We haven't talked in over a year now, except for the one time she texted me "I miss you" out of the blue. That one hurt.
>>27794498Based. Incredibly based anon. The double standard exists. This is a high IQ post. Men cheat to save their marriage. Women cheat to get out of their marriage.
>>27799978It’s funny because it’s a stripper but I honestly see how one could fall down that path. My buddy is a smart dude and makes good money but for a while he was actually dating a stripper. Apparently the stripper would get really mad or jealous with him and get violent too.
>>27779441KekTall white Chad having white Chad troublesDon't careI've fucked 60ish (I think?) Brothel and mainly escort women in Mexico, some girls have asked why I see them since I'm young, not ugly, and not an old mongerIt's mainly the convenience for me, I've fucked using apps, actually mainly reddit has worked for me but still, I live close to Tijuana so I fuck the working escort girls down there, my std test this week came back all cleanI was single the whole time thoI think if I were to get a gf I could easily be loyal to her and treat her like a princess :)She would have to the the right type of girl thoughI'm gonna go live in Mexico, do the nomad thing working remotely making dollars
>>27800775>reddit has worked for mewe can tell with your faggot spacing. gtfoh ugly nonwhite. this thread isnt for you
This thread is why divorce rate is wild and why no one wants to get married
>>27800844>social media>promiscuous clothes>degenerate culture>onlyfans>women in the workforce>lack of religion>etcno this thread is not why the divorce rate is "wild"
>>27800807Found the mad sexless chud
>>27801725this is your doctor you have aids you have 6 months to live
>>27800775You aren’t a chad. Chad problems aren’t you see too many hookers lol
>>27797782>but if you're being discrete and smart about it, cheating on your woman will make her more attracted to you.Flirting with other women makes sense. I don't know about cheating though.
>>27796020>how can anyone be against murdering children in 2022?
>>27796020Morality is subjective. Your type of people are pro any sort of relationship and “love is love” until it’s an older man and younger legal-aged women
>>27796020Women shouldn't be allowed to avoid the consequences of their actions. To me, it's more about the woman than the child itself, at least for the first week or so.
>>27802842>>27802974What "child" are you talking about? It's a little piece of slime inside the womb
Talking about children, I'm hoping to get some perspective from husbands and dads.Does anyone have positive things to say about kids? I only hear negative things. Even parents who say they don't regret it will, in the same breath, say how it's stressful, thankless, and isolating. That they're angry all the time, their marriage is strained, they don't have the time/energy to do anything that used to make them happy, they never see their friends, they're sleep deprived even after the kids have been sleeping through the night, and are constantly stressed about money.Then they have the gall, after all this, to say with a straight face, "But it's all worth it because I love my kids"It just sounds like sunk cost fallacy to me. That they're either lying to me or to themselves. This board is always saying that marriage is a trap and a mistake, but it looks like having kids is even worse.Can anyone convince me otherwise?I can talk more about my specific circumstances that has me confused and on the fence if anyone cares. Otherwise we can just talk broadly and about your own experiences
>>27803975Yeah it’s stressful but at the end of the day it’s the continuation of life, your genes and values. For me what worked out the best is having parents that are retired and were able to be caregivers basically all the time. I know not doable for most westerners because they are so isolated and… well self absorbed. Best thing you can do is have a lot of people around to help out. That is I’ll probably mean hiring a nanny, hiring people to help clean your house and lots of convenience stuff. Do not put your kids in daycare. Also make sure your kids are breast fed and at very least never drink commercial formula
>>27779441me and my gf basically arent sexually compatible and rarely slept together, i love her but i always felt the urge to sleep with other women, i ended up cheating on her and had to break up with her today which felt awful but had to be done
>>27804128So if I don't have the family or money to have extra hands on deck, it's futile? That's a thought I've been having. "It takes a village" and all that. It doesn't seem to make sense to have just two people doing it all. That became apparent to me when I met this very large extended family that recently had a baby. Everyone was passing the baby around. It made me depressed to see because I know I'll never have that.
>>27804243No it’s not futile, just a little harder and you might need to make some changes. The worst part is the first few years then it gradual gets easier to manage as the kid becomes more independent.Does your wife work at all? I honestly think it’s best for the mom to not work for at least a year or 2. But definitely longer if the alternative is putting your child in day care where they get abandonment Issues. Does your wife work and is she willing to take extended time off?
>>27804289Admittedly I'm the wife. I don't think we'd be able to afford living on one income. I'd certainly want to try to get as much work as I can off. Still, that's scary since that goes right back to that being alone and isolated. Especially if it goes as far as my husband having to pick up a night job. I'd feel like a single mom.
>>27804289As a post script, I've hardly even considered daycare as an option considering it's as expensive as an income anyway.
>>27803338Which is how all of our lives began. The size and scale of that life is irrelevant; if you terminate a viable pregnancy, you're ending a human life. The rationalizations, semantics, cognitive dissonance, in a word: cope, surrounding the act, are irrelevant.That's perhaps what I find the most offensive about all of this. If pro-choice types could at least acknowledge what they're advocating, what they're doing, if they could acknowledge that a woman's total autonomy and convenience are more important to them than an unborn human's right to even exist, that's something I could disagree with, even find abhorrent, but could concede that it's a grey area, and so long as you abolish male obligation to provide resources to a child whom they have zero say in whether or not it's even born, it's something I could abide.But no, you want to kill children to pander to women, and you can't even be honest about what you're doing.If you're reading this, you were "just a piece of slime inside the womb" at one point, does that make your life any less meaningful or precious to you? How you would feel if your mother had terminated you while you were "just a piece of slime inside the womb?"Trick question, you wouldn't feel anything, because everything you are, were, or may become would have been unceremoniously flushed down a toilet.That's the truth. That's what abortion is, and in the dark, no amount of colorful language or collective self-deception will change the truth of it. Period. And if you disagree with me, let me save you some keystrokes; you're evil, and go fuck yourself.
And another thing, how ironic is it that these people label themselves as "pro-choice" when they have zero regard, consideration, or compassion for an unborn child? Someone who cannot defend, or speak for themselves. These people style themselves as champions of the marginalized, but really they just want the path of least resistance and to be as evil, vile, and caustic as possible with as much support as possible.History will see you for what you are.
>>27804516>if they could acknowledge that a woman's total autonomy and convenience are more important to them than an unborn human's right to even exist, that's something I could disagree with, even find abhorrent, but could concede that it's a grey areaIs that not what they're saying? At least some of them?
I want to fuck my coworker so bad We are both supervisors and we go out and eat and drink all the time but we're just friends. She's single and she's hinted she's down, but I always turn her down because I'm married and I know it's lust not love but maybe I just love both of them?I want to annihilate her though. She's my type, a little heavier with thick thighs, big boobs a pretty face and a great fuckin smile. I'm expecting to crack eventually but I also enjoy teasing myself to the brink thinking about it then coming home and having sex thinking about cheating so idk wtf I want.
>>27779441I have a girlfriend but she's the first person I've had sexual relations with. We found each other fairly late in life (was a virgin until my late 20s) and part of me abhors the idea of settling before fucking around. I don't intend to follow that voice, I've never felt this loved and accepted by someone and it's worth more than any magnitude of pussy could ever be, but the temptation is definitely there.
>>27804348That’s a rough situation. Can your husband possibly increase his wage? I know not always so easy but you gotta do something. Down sizing, moving in with family and definitely cutting discretionary expenses are something you’ll need to consider. A lot of people over consume. Housing is the largest expensive but it’s also important to live somewhere decent…
>>27805181Don’t do it while you work with her. If one of you change jobs then you can possibly consider it
>>27787037I had a very depressing period (even went to therapy), and had no libido etc., so it was partially my fault, but I know that it was still not justified that he cheated.It's just after this happened I knew 2 things. 1. I didn't want to loose him completely (intellectually he's the closest to me, and it is very important to me to have someone to talk to and who understands what I'm talking about). 2. that I didn't want to be in a serious relationship with anyone, but I had physical needs (my libido was just cured when I got to know the issue). So I put together 1 and 2 and I went with "friends with benefits" with him until we find someone else. 2 years after, we become a normal couple again. > Why?It's hard to describe exactly, I guess I just love him selflessly, in an almost autistic way. I also told him that he can go with the other woman if he's happier with her and that I also think that they have lot of things in common that we don't.
>>27805248 I am deeply in love with my wife, but I've always been a dumb stupid bitch. I want her and I get jealous thinking of others having her and she knows it. Eventually we're gonna drink a bit too much and go over the edge and nah. We both get paid a generous salary, we both work together to rig our evals and keep our current employees paid and happy. We are in a situation where our staff think we're fucking and neither of us deny it. I truthfully don't know what to do because we can't wait for that, cause we ain't gonna quit this job. We started together on the same day and were almost groomed for these jobs for the last ten years. Idfk
Semi-cheating, I guess..Im married and I have a friend, a girl, who is married to another dude.Every now and then I masturbate with her watching. Eventually she starts playing with herself as well, as she watches. Never gotten physical in any manner. Both deal with themselves only.And this friend wants me to cum all over her face, so she can take a photo/video of it happening, for.. whatever sexual fantasy reason.No physical contact between us during that.She is very much into me, in a physical sense.I.. not so much.. She is just a willing playmate I can play with. I mean I love the attention I get from her and the thirst I see in her eyes. But whenever I am achieve orgasm.. It feels.. empty.. I mean.. She wants to blow me.. And I know I would enjoy it during. But once I am done, I am sure I would feel both empty and.. uh.. disappointed in myself, as my wife is so much better looking than her.
>>27805443Serious question, how do you get in a situation like that where you are masturbating but not touching each other? I was thinking I could do the same thing with a girl but when it came down to it, we ended up just fucking. Like for me, anything that even starts sexual goes all the way or it gets cut off and doesn’t progress at all.
>>27805662At first we were just friends talking about nerd stuff. And then as time went on, became more open in topics. So sex and sexual stuff was on the table. Talking about experiences, dreams, fantasies, bdsm and so forth.Then we started sending porn to each other. Stuff we found online and thought the other one would appreciate.Then at some point. Porn of ourselves - slight teases at first. And eventually just pleasuring ourselves for photos or videos.And after time went on, While we were hanging out at a private location. With her unaware, I just started watching porn there and masturbating. It took her way too long to notice what I was doing. And then she just grabbed a chair and watched me. And I felt hotter and more desirable immediately.Im not a gigachad (obviously, as I am on 4chan), but thanks to quick metabolism and working out, I am maybe average+.And my body type def works for her
I often have thoughts about "the path not travelled" but have learned to deal with them. Once you get married, it demystifies the opposite sex and instills a newfound sense of confidence in you and in your dealings with them. While I struggled to interact with women before, it is now easy and I understand that I were to leave my wife, I would have a plethora of options that I could now take full advantage of in a way that I didn't before. That said, these thoughts are on the same level as "what if I joined the army?", "what if I went to prison and became a shot caller?", or "what if I swerved this car into oncoming traffic?" There are so many forks in the road that can lead your life in a radically different direction and if I did just one thing differently, I could have become a completely different person. Or maybe our nature isn't that malleable and this path I'm on now was always the best one for me. Thoughts about disregarding your marriage can often simply be reflections of your questions about who you are and what your place in the world is. It is fine to have these questions. The important thing is that you acknowledge and confront them in your own mind, rather than letting them fester unexamined. Understand that you are a thinking being with the capacity to question everything and that the existence of these questions does not imply any need to deviate from the path you have chosen.
>>27804845I legitimately cannot think of a time verbage along the lines of "so you think women should be able to kill their unborn children?" wasn't meant with pushback/semantics bingo/some irrelevant navel-gazing as to what constitutes a life. The general consensus among the woke mob seems to be "abortion is totes not murder, u guyz."I have not seen this in person, as I have no reason to be at degeneracy rallies, but I've seen a few videos of women who seem to fetishize, in a Caligulan fashion, the fact that they are so empowered as to be able to murder unborn children, and revel in it. But that's the only "exception" to the "a fetus/embryo/unborn child isn't a life" narrative I've personally observed.Which doesn't surprise me, abortion as a means of birth control is an abhorrent, barbaric act; I can't imagine many people can acknowledge and accept what it is then turn around, endorse it, and live with themselves, hence the mental gymnastics, semantics, and self-delusion.The left thrives on the idea that the truth can be subjective, not only that, but that you can interpret something subjective, and then enforce your interpretation of it as objective fact; rhetoric around transsexuals is probably the best example I can give off the top of my head, "gender is a social construct, and therefore subjective, and therefore no view regarding it is inherently more or less correct than any other, but you better agree with what we say is the objective and irrefutable truth around it, or you're a hateful bigot."And to be clear, I'm not trying to turn this into a flame war about troons, I'm just saying that most rational people understand that a "trans" woman is not a "real" woman, and also understand that there is a narrative you're expected to follow that says otherwise... abortion is the same way. It's 100% killing someone at their most vulnerable as a matter of convenience, but they can't just come out and say that, so they shield their consciences with bullshit.
>>27805181You should 100% do it. Men aren't wired for a lifetime of monogamy. It only became the norm because our society, for a time, solved the issue of "most men literal die alone, as virgins" so guys who otherwise would live their entire lives invisible to women, could settle down with a looks match and chase the dream... but the dream is over now, so if you're the type of guy who can sow his oats, you should. Just be discrete.Think about it, you're not going to leave your wife for this chick, are you? No, you're just having some fun on the side. Learn to compartmentalize. You've got a woman at home who you live, but she's clearly not scratching every itch... doesn't mean you have to suffer in silence. My advice? Get a room, and wreck that shit. Get it all out of your system, take a shower, check out, and "log in" to your normal life. Proceed as if nothing happened, and keep on keeping on until that itch comes back, rinse and repeat.This really should not be a hot take, like I said we're expected to handle our shit as men as we always have, but women are lacking as fuck nowadays. If you've got needs, go take care of those needs, she doesn't need to know about it. I promise she does shit every single. fucking. day. she don't tell you about.
I don't get it. I've never felt the need to cheat
>>27804516You are borderline man. Fucking lol a piece of slime is not a life. Go back to the stone age with your muslim bs
>>27805811Interesting… I guess you were close enough where you weren’t worried about her telling or anything. Why didn’t you try to touch her? Guilt?
>>27806781Sure, there is some of that. But mostly - I am just not really attracted to her.
>>27806817so it's normal for you to masturbate in front of people you aren't really attracted to?honestly, give her a facial while she touches herself. it's not cheating because you didn't touch her and there is zero risk of stds
>>27780443Tell your wife and ask to fuck
>>27780522If you look you're cheating in your heart.You deserved to get cheated on.
>>27793381>typical moid can't into modern civilization>cheats on his wife because he can't control his primitive nature>gets destroyed in court>kills himself in his 40sLOL go ahead and roll with it then, worthless fucking ape. "B-b-back then men..." Back then you would've died from an imbalance of humors during trepanation. You caveman. You fucking LOSER.
>>27806389>Fucking lol a piece of slime is not a lifeScientifically and objectively, it absolutely is. Stop pandering to female narcissism.
>>27805811> Porn of ourselvesSo this means you sent naked pictures of yourselves to each other?Ever see her naked in person?
>>27805313Having any blame for the other woman as if it wasn't your man who chose to step out is pathetic. You've basically allowed an open relationship on his end because you have low self esteem. I can actually see why you cheated on and wouldn't leave no matter how bad he treated you. Nice example you'll be setting for your children/daughters btw
>>27805313 First I'm seeing of a female cuck, but at least you know your place.
>>27804516Damn this is some cringe ass copy-pasta. You pro lifers are the worst. By your logic, blowing a load into a tissue is akin to mass murdering. Heavens! Think of all the atrocities you have now commited. Go slurp on Ben Shapiro's knob and give a handy to Jordan P at the same time why don't you. Ffs.
>>27796487You can't rape your spouse.
>>27799040I wish I had a husband with a mindset like this but with lots of money. I think it would be a very happy arrangement
>>27796027As a woman, I agree. Men have gotten so soft, proof is in this thread, that any display of dominance is a turn on. I don't believe in "no" when it comes to marriage but I'll be hard pressed to find a husband who agrees
>>27795740How much do you make a year to afford escorts and sugar babies and how old are you and your wife?
>>27808857In person, tits, yeah.
>>27779441Been married for almost two years. No kids and wife puts out every other month. It's a semi miserable experience you basically need kids to make it worth it. Wife doesn't want kids though lol. At 34 I'm in the best shape I've ever been, look the best, and tons of confidence. I was basically junk the past 10 years. Not looking for sex but I enjoy the female attention/energy. You can't really pursue women while married but I go out alone alone alot. Not really sure what to do so i waste money on strippers every few weeks.
Fucking OP just posting this pic with no sauce...
>>27808933Observe the libcuck employ one of it's most favored (and fucking tiresome) tactic: putting words in someone's mouth and absolutely dunking on the strawman they've created. A sperm cell is not a person; everything that follows the fusion dance, is.>>27809264I do well for myself but my standards when it comes to even humoring marriage are quite high.>>27809645Why did you marry this woman? Was she more affectionate prior to getting you locked down?
>>27809838What typically are your standards for marriage?
>>27810902I don't really have a comprehensive list of things I'm looking for, and not nearly as many red flags as you might expect, plenty of yellow/orange flags that put me on alert, though. In general, I look out for>Has a good relationship with her father, who isn't immasculated/disrespected by her mother>Low body count; virgin is ideal, if it's higher than your age divided by three, you're for the streets>Doesn't think acting entitled or bitchy is cute/endearing>This is a big one that not nearly enough men pay attention to, but I pay very close attention to her friends; birds of a feather, as they say>What her answers are to important questions re: love/marriage, family, ethics, politics, and how she answers them>Finally, I second everything the quadroon says here-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDV_zVLXbfE
>>27779441My wife got pregnant and her libido went down. Is that normal? Should I just fap to thicc latinas?
>>27811986Yes, fuck an escort if you can’t handle it anymore. Never say a word. Or just jerk your dick until it falls off
>>27805229Hey are you still around?>Can your husband possibly increase his wage? He's considered changing fields, but as he is he's pretty much capped out at $25/hr. I work in STEM and while I currently make $17/hr, it caps out at $40/hr.>Down sizing, moving in with familyWe did live with my in-laws for a month but unfortunately my FIL is an alcoholic and tried to fight my husband. My dad works and I'm estranged from my mom.>definitely cutting discretionary expenses are something you’ll need to consider. A lot of people over consume. Luckily he and I are on the same page here. We don't drink, we rarely eat out, don't have expensive hobbies. >Housing is the largest expensive but it’s also important to live somewhere decent…We've talked about doing the tiny home on wheels meme and getting a plot of land to put it on.You mentioned issues with day cares and benefits of nannys. What are your concerns with day cares and are there any exceptions? The issue I can see with nannys is that if we're the only one paying her for that time, that means we need to pay her a full wage per hour. If we manage to get one that's per hour less than one of our per hours, we'd still only get a couple dollars net an hour.I don't understand day cares at all. A local one charges $1.4k for 5 half days a week. If I work part time I'd only be taking in $1.3k. Where does all their money go?Also we've kind of deviated from my original question. Can you tell me more about what this means to you?:>Yeah it’s stressful but at the end of the day it’s the continuation of life, your genes and values.
Btw bump on this question:>>27803975>I'm hoping to get some perspective from husbands and dads.>Does anyone have positive things to say about kids? I only hear negative things.
>>27779441>31Yep. Thats around when it starts. You younger, single guys just don't fuckin' get it. You don't understand how jarring it is to go from being in your twenties, busting your ass, in love with your fiance, and then finding yourself into this weird stable period of marriage and creating a family. And then it starts. Women start with unbelievably scandalous behavior. Like bizarro world shit that makes you think you're getting pranked, and it comes at you from all sides, seemingly everywhere you go. And maybe, you have a kid, and the wife lets herself go a bit. And maybe she just doesn't have the same time or energy for you anymore, not that you fault her because being a mom takes energy. but its still a pang of loneliness nonetheless. pretty soon you realize this isn't going away, as a matter of fact, you're looking into the crystal ball and seeing that you are going to be (sometimes literally) pushing these women off you for probably the next 20 years or so. so your choices are dealing with the guilt and shame of being a philanderer or having to consistently summon your internal fortitude for 2 decades without ever slipping. neither are all that palatable. i get it, without condemning or condoning, i get it. you could white knuckle through the horde of homewreckers for a decade or more and all it would take was one bad day at home, one day of being weak. because its not just a fleeting opportunity that you can brush off, its a persistent and almost daily test of resolve.
>>27812085Holy based. Go off king hit it spot on
>>27812180I'm 41 and it started almost exactly at 30. Like a fucking switch. Been holding on by my fingernails for the last 11 years, had some really close calls, not gonna lie. Guess what? It only gets worse as you approach 40 and get that bit of salt n pepper in your hair because thats when the young girls start in on it. 30's was mostly women my age or maybe a few years younger. I'd like to think that if I was more of player in my youth that all these urges would've been sated and the temptation wouldn't be there but I know thats not true.
>>27812471I keep hearing it only gets worse. I sense in my bones that it will too. It is what it is I guess. I don’t think it matters whether you had one girl or a hundred. As a guy you are going to want to fuck other women, not much else to it. I was a player in my youth, it’s good in the sense that I know it’s just some slut that will mean nothing but that’s exactly why it’s bad too kek. And knowing how easy it would be to fuck. I thought women coming after married men was a meme. I totally see it now obviously. Good luck in the future bro and hold firm. Seems we choose either between the guilty pleasures or eternal abstinence, either way it’s misery.
>>27779441Cheated on my fiance this summer with a slut I met while doing a solo travel. I feel guilty as fuck but at the same time I try to cope with the usual redpill crap like "it's OK, I'm a man I was programmed to spread the seed etc...". If I told her what I did she would probably have a nervous breakdown. Don't know what to do boys
>>27813116I add. It's really fucking bizarre how women suddenly show more interest on you once they know you are taken/married. I thought it was just a meme but apparently it's not.
>>27812922>>27813151What's going to turn your stomach is when you learn to differentiate between the women that just want a fuck to the ones that are active homewreckers seeking to blow up your marriage. You'd think "No woman would just do that for sport" but you are so wrong.
>>27813189You have experience with this? Explain please
>>27813206Imagine your stereotypical BPD girl except now twice as sophisticated and with enough veneer on her personality to hide her craziness. They'll be more interested in your home life than the average slut looking to entice you into stepping out. They'll want to know about your kids, they'll even pretend to be "just a friend" so they could get the opportunity to meet your wife. Because really its just as much about your wife as it is about you. And maybe she does meet your wife in one way or another, she'll be critical of her and talk about how she doesn't deserve you or something like that. She'll want to know all the little details about you that would give her the ammunition to completely destroy you if you ever slipped up and caved to cheating. The biggest red flag you're dealing with one of these is if she constantly try's to reassure you "Oh I'd never tell your wife you know! ;)"
>>27813282Holy shit dude I’ve never even considered this but this is totally eye opening. Thank you for your service. Did you encounter one of these demons yourself?
>>27813349>Did you encounter one of these demons yourself?about 4 of them over the course of my 16 year marriage. first one i ran into scared me shitless because i physically knocked her down to get out of being in the same room with her and was afraid she'd make up some lie to get me arrested or something. got another one of them at my work right now thats been hovering around for about 6 months. spotting them early and not giving them any opportunities is the key imo.
>married to bi-polar woman for 17 years>spent over a decade trying to get her evaluated, get us go to marriage counseling> go from madly in love > heart broken > trying to fix things > bitter and resentful > just fucking done>finally she's been diagnosed>after decades of her talking about suicide as "pillow talk", her lashing out at me>too little too late...I've lost the ability to love, to feel close to another person>honestly now I'm just sick of her, I just want to be free>Totally sick of her unstable decisions, she's 42 and makes dumbshit choices like she's 20>she hates movies, music, food, alcohol, travel, museums, crowds...I still have no fucking clue what she likesI'm 45, self employed, 130 IQ, and I'm into vegetable gardening, studying Latin, web development, Shakespeare, and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. I am well read, very well spoken, am well hung and can give a woman oral sex for an hour: I would probably be the ideal date for a middle-aged sophisticated divorced woman. But I wasted the best years of my life on a hot crazy bitch, and now I have no desire to get ensnared by another one, I accept that there's no one for me. I'm honestly completely sick of the female species, I've realized women are very bland and boring. Young attractive women honestly make me a little nauseous, "Beauty makes promises it can't keep."No desire to cheat. I'd just be thinking about how close her anus is to her vagina the whole time, and her ass-smell.
>>27780183>Its okay to be tempted, but doing it makes you a bad person.Agreed.>once a cheater always a cheater>No cheaters just have shit morals.>Never trust a cheater.Not always the case. People change. That philosophy is needlessly simplistic and judgmental. >t. married cheater and bad person
>>27807328>people in relationship should blind themselvesGood luck with that philosophy
>>27807401implying women can't divorce rape for no other fucking reason than "I fell out of love". I'm not for cheating but holy shit, I'm glad I'm not this much of a basedboy cuck
>>27804516>If pro-choice types could at least acknowledge what they're advocatingThis is also what has always annoyed me, too. They make this whole thing about a "woman's right" and me me me and at the end of the day you're flushing out a baby. At least be honest about it but no, you gotta make it into this empowering thing
>>27805955The thing is that that type of stuff will always come back to bite you in the ass. Unless you cheat a few states away or a country away, I've never seen anybody get away with cheating. Plus, you also get the itch more and more as you trivialize cheating And trust me man, I've had plenty of chances to get some side but I just don't think it's worth the risk, especially if your gal is a good one
>>27779441I still regularly cheat on my wife with my oneitis from highschool. Even did it with her on the night before my wedding thinking it would be the last time :/Lost my virginity to her back then and still regularly fucked her throughout the years. Tbh for the most part I think I only dated other women to try and impress her or make her jealous because she never wanted to turn what we had into a relationship. I used to be about no sex before marriage but she used to tell me how no one likes guys with no exp. Lol I remembered even crying when I asked her if our (well my) first time meant anything to her or was special and she said no but that it was lots of fun. I was a no sex before marriage type back then so it was probably the most painful thing I experienced. I think I was too idealistic back then. I fucked up because I had this fantasy sort of love for her instead of just accepting her for how she was. I think nowadays I see her for how/what she is and appreciate her for it. Think it's possible to genuinely love 2 women at the same time? Because i honestly feel like I do.
>>27815027>Think it's possible to genuinely love 2 women at the same time? Because i honestly feel like I do.I believe it is but I find it very impractical. Why didn't you marry your oneitis instead?
Had an affair with a married Muslim woman from Iran 2 years ago (so a tradwife lol). I don't know why but I have a strange fetish for the hijab. Jokes apart in the present I had lots of fun and the sex was absolutely spectacular, she loved doing very kinky stuff, but later she blackpilled me to oblivion. If a self proclaimed traditional girl coming from a very conservative culture can get corrupted by a random kafir cock in less than a week what's stopping an "empowered" woman native to the west?
>>27815873She never felt the same and spilled the spaghetti getting all clingy when I was young. It was only when I moved on and dated other girls that she wasnt turned off by me anymore so ever since then I always kept my true feelings secret whenever we hooked up lol. But ever since I got married, I do tell her now that I love her and that she will always have a place in my heart and all that dumb stuff. It's weird because she seems to be cool with it now. I think we were just on different wavelengths when we were young.Don't get me wrong though, I do love my wife more than her at the end of the day
>>27815615>n-not cheating means you wanna f-fuck your momNot the top of the class, are you?