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Is it actually “bad” if someone isn’t sexually active in their twenties?

Not a lack of social interactions with other people. But no sex
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>>25661920
I sure hope not...
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>>25661920
I think you increase the risk of prostate cancer or something like that
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For the outside world? No, wont effect the world one bit. For the person? Only if it bothers them. If theyre happy birdwatching and sculpting and painting and listening to classical music, then it doesn't matter if they arent having sex.

If something (anything) bothers you, thats when you need to try to change something.

As far as sex goes, the public is oversexualized. Its in pop music, pop film and television, its constant and ridiculous. Sex is not a sport, its not an art form. Its been propped up as the most important thing in life. Its really not.
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>>25661925
this girl at work was talking about sex today with other colleagues. She asked me about my past and quickly realized that I don’t have sex and I’m 30 years old. She told me that i wasted my twenties
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>>25661940
The girl at work said it’s bad because I won’t get my twenties back and won’t have the experiences most young people have.
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>>25661942
she's a woman so she only sees it from a woman's perspective. as a man your prime is like 25-45, while her prime is like 18-35 tops. plenty of 20 year old girls out there who want 30-something guys to dick them down
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>>25661948
Not true
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>>25661950
what isn't true?
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>>25661958
Early 20 year old women are irrelevant
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>>25661946
it may never matter to you then either. males are much more variable. some are autistic savants. geniuses. focused elsewhere. for women, not so much. sex is their domain. its their gift, their treasure, their value. like the other poster said, dont listen to a woman about this shit.

also, she may be trying to fuck you. is she trying to flirt? pay attention to her. let her take your virginity if she steers the conversation in that direction.
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>>25661940
This. If someone really wanted to have sex, they'd go and get it. It really isn't that hard unless you're the dictionary picture of ugliness, and even then, you could just pay for it.
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>>25661962
>also, she may be trying to fuck you. is she trying to flirt?
She didn’t sound like she was flirting to me. But she did suck my co-workers cock a few nights ago. He told me about it.
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>>25661970
It can be incredibly difficult for those who don’t want to pay for a whore. Some people don’t have interactions with women because of their careers
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>>25661970
>>25661940
Ive had many opportunities for sex over the course of my twenties (I’m 31 now). I had about 8-9 different girls who I could have had sex with. But didn’t. I don’t feel comfortable with it, and the thought of being naked with a girl is scary
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>>25661961
if you're worried about missing out on your 20s then being able to still fuck girls in their early 20s is the only thing that's relevant you stupid nigger
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>>25661974
Right. so pay attention going forward if she tries to talk to you about sex. Or tries to talk to you about anything. Be easily readable by her. Let her maneuver you into having sex if thats her goal. Simple. Who really knows what might happen.
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>>25662011
>able to still fuck girls in their early 20s is the only thing that's relevant you stupid nigger
Not true, how the fuck are you suppose to meet them?
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>>25662009
Its a very primal thing. I get you. Its so animalistic and basic. The driving urges are the same way. Everything about it is animalistic. Its definitely unique in terms of the whole human experience.
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>>25662025
no I wouldn’t have sex with her. She’s a slut
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>>25662029
Tinder, Hinge, Bumble, clubs, bars. first you said that what I said was untrue, then when I called you out you said what I said wasn't untrue just irrelevant, now you're not saying it's irrelevant you're just saying it would be hard to pull off. what's the point of your replies? fuck off
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>>25662035
it sounds scary. The colleague. If she wanted to have sex with me, that sounds scary that some Korean girl I see at work everyday would want to put my penis in her. That doesn’t seem right
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>>25662037
Ok so just stay away from her. if shes blowing random co-workers then shes a whore. Probably has a whole host of issues relating to her sexuality. How men see her, her self worth, all tied together. Stay the fuck away from her.
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>>25661942
dont understand why people think sex is such a big deal if they arent even having kids..
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>>25661920
Looking for external validation of what is good and bad. Pretty weak.
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>>25662047
Grow up dude. Its not a big deal. Sex is part of being human. Theres definitely a side of your nature that you arent experiencing. If youre talking about sex being scary then thats different than a lack of interest. Get to the bottom of it. See a therapist with your workplace health insurance. Thats my advice.
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>>25662057
>therapist
What would they possible do? Nothing

It doesn’t seem right that some person I see everyday would want to touch me
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>>25662051
yeah I am. After learning about her being with my coworker I don’t want to even speak to her at all anymore
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>>25661920
Its not bad, but if you havent gotten laid by atleast 21 then i assume you're stunted in some kind of way. Could of social, could be looks, could be personality, but whatever it is you're probably lacking in something if you havent gotten laid by 21 and didnt choose celibacy or something.
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>>25661948
Nice try, but even most guys will say you wasted your 20's if your in your 30's and a virgin.
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>>25662388
This is me>>25662009
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>>25661920
No. If you're not married, you shouldn't be having sex. So for someone in their early twenties (who likely isn't and probably shouldn't be married), it's a good thing to not be sexually active.
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>>25662403
it depends what else he was doing. anyone who's had enough sex will tell you it's overrated, and he's not beyond some point of no return yet. nothing wrong with being a late bloomer
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>>25661920
It should be looked at on a case-by-case basis.
A better question would be, "why aren't you having sex in your 20's?"
For the majority of people it should fall into two categories: voluntary celibacy or involuntary celibacy.
Voluntary celibacy is usually fine, unless it's due to resentment or some other completely fucked shit.
Involuntary celibacy is usually not fine/a massive red flag that something is very wrong.
I'm voluntarily celibate myself. I think there is some corny phrase that describes my situation, something like, "you have to become the right person instead of looking for the right person."
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>>25662623
>nothing wrong with being a late bloomer
Yes there is. Because the pool of women who remain are sluts or will try to take advantage of him. And even then a lot of those girls don’t want an inexperienced man
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>>25661920
People find it odd. And if you are being celibate by choice people can get really deffinsive because they can feel a bit guilty or judged.
But no man its all good.
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>>25662659
like I said there's no magical reason why he has to stick to trying to get with other 30 year olds. literally just fake it till you make it and bang 20 year olds from hinge or tinder. he's not past some magical point of no return, fuck off with your incel blackpill shit. the world isn't an rpg
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>>25662029
>how the fuck are you suppose to meet them?
How the fuck are you supposed to meet.. women? Those people who are literally everywhere? Hmm...
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>>25662697
Single 30 year old women are not everywhere
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>>25661942
who the fuck cares about what other people think. You can decide to get jacked now and be jacked by 31, then start banging women with some self confidence. I'm 31 and only fucked one girl, I wasted my twenties in other ways but don't feel like I should have had 10000 times more sex. I should have traveled more, had more fun with friends and stuff, but sex is not THAT big of a deal.
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>>25662697
how do I meet them as a 25 year old virgin, they're literally not everywhere I haven't interacted with one my age in months
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There's plenty of 20 year old prostitutes for you to sleep with
>>25662872
quit your job and go to school
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>>25661920
That's only for you to determine. Quit being an NPC and live by your own standards.
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>>25662796
>You can decide to get jacked now and be jacked by 31
I have been listing for like 7 years. I’m pretty fit right now
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I'd say it's only 'bad' if you really wanted it, did your best to get it, but couldn't get it.

If you had no interest in it, it's not as bad.
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>>25661942
Think about this also. People who say shit like that are being mean because they are insecure about their own position in life. I know that's cliche but so is some dumb bitch shitting on someone else about sex.
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>>25662057
This is actually the biggest lie ever. Only people in the modern era act like sex is this big of a deal. hundreds of years ago you would have been dirty because soap was non-existent or too expensive. Yeast infections would have been common. plus contraception is a modern invention and a lot of sex would have lead to pregnancy.

modern society is basically to blame for the pressure we put on sex. It's normal to be a basic unattractive person and not have it. Remember that society used to be a lot more fundementalist and generally frowned upon sex.
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>>25661920
No, but I married at 21. Your 20s are a great time to figure these questions out for yourself and carve your own path in life.
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>>25662705
Again with this...why do they have to be 30?

>>25662872
>I haven't interacted with one my age in months
Probably why you're a virgin...no great mysteries here.
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>>25664612
>it's not as bad
But it’s still bad?
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>>25661942
Report her to your boss for being unprofessional, if you talked about sex you can bet the female employees would report you for 'making them uncomfortable'
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>>25664708
>Probably why you're a virgin...no great mysteries here.
where am I supposed to meet them?
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>>25664880
I just saw her today. She sat down with me at lunch and talked to me about sex again. She told me that it’s unhealthy that I’m not having sex and “you’re only young once”. She said I wasted my twenties and I shouldn’t waste my thirties
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>>25666360
>>25666360
Look her in the eyes and tell her if she's got such a big problem with what isn't even her fucking business, then she should take you out back and jump your cock, or shut the fuck up. Show her you figurative balls. Bitches love that.
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>>25666424
I don’t want to have sex, and I don’t want to say those things to her because the male co-worker who she had oral sex with. He told me yesterday that he rejects her all the time which makes her more insistent on hooking up. I don’t want her to come on to me

To be fair; there were other people yesterday who told me the same thing. 2 other females and 2 males. They told me I should be having sex regularly
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>>25666360
This >>25666424 is bullshit. If you're autistic or gullible, don't follow his advice.

Safest thing you can do for your career is play it safe. Don't say anything that could get you in trouble with your boss or the company if you were overheard. Maybe ask her why she values sex so highly? If she pushes, then ask her why she cares, it's your life that was "wasted" (by her standards). If she's not going to take your virginity, then she shouldn't be meddling. Make yourself sound a little pitiful, like you can't do anything about it. It's much safer for your job than theatrically posimg and pointing at her, as you scream "You, whore! Take my virginity yourself, else keep your mouth-pussy shut, you filthy wench..."

(Assuming you want her to take your V-card.)
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>>25666456
Ignore my above post then, don't let it get to you. We (me at least, i'm a younger dude) been raised with sex as one of the highest things you can strive for. Everything's so oversexualized, from advertisements, to our films and television. Porn addiction's something that's openly promoted instead of shamed, and sex is treated like the heaven of the atheist. People actually kill themselves because they have not had sex. Others take sex and base their entire identity around it. It's insanity, and I don't blame you for not partaking.
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>>25666668
Why are people like this
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>>25661942
>She told me that i wasted my twenties
And she's doing the same thing by fooling around instead of locking down a hubby
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>>25667440
Not him but girls like her always find husbands at some point, good ones too
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>>25661920
30yo virgin here. Not an incel, I just have no desire to have sex IRL. I'm just not attracted to humans. I grew up on furry porn and that's all I'm attracted to.

People think you're weird if you don't date or have sex. They wonder what the fuck is wrong with you. There's nothing "wrong" with choosing not to have sex, but there's a stigma to voluntary celibacy that's even worse than being an incel to some people. Some people get offended, but most people are just confused and bewildered and wonder what the fuck is wrong with you that you don't want sex.

Of course, I don't go around telling my coworkers that I'm only attracted to furry stuff. If I did then I would go from weird to an animal fucker in their eyes. Most people don't understand furry porn and consider it the same as bestiality even though that couldn't be further from the truth. I just identify as asexual and I suppose that label fits since I'm not attracted to anyone IRL.
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>>25668292
Conditioned to furry porn sounds like a problem to me
You sound as bad as troons
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>>25668292
>Most people don't understand furry porn and consider it the same as bestiality even though that couldn't be further from the truth
Uh
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It's amazing how much value humans place on sleeping around.

>do do people care how many people I've slept with guise
Have them carve that into your grave stone
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>>25668415
>Conditioned to furry porn sounds like a problem to me
It's actually great because I'm not obsessed with having sex with human women like so many of my buddies are. They're absolutely obsessed with sex and have been through so much shit chasing women. So much time wasted, so much agony. I see it as a bad habit like smoking or drinking. I don't indulge in any bad habits, and women are no exception.

>>25669085
Fine, I'll spell it out for you. There's a HUGE difference between being attracted to an anthro fox with human-level intelligence vs being attracted to an animal (i.e., a literal four-legged fox you'd find in the forest). I don't want to fuck a dog or any other animal. That's nasty. Even if I was physically attracted to animals, I still wouldn't want to fuck them because they're an animal without the intelligence or ability to have a mutual relationship.

Not to mention God knows what diseases they'd have. Anthro furry creatures are just like humans. They wear clothes, are intelligent, and are fully sentient and capable of having an actual relationship with you. The only difference is they're a lot hotter and more exotic than a human. Think of them like a being from another reality. They're not humans and they're not animals, they're something different.
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Sexual activity outside of marriage is actually a perversion, focus on yourself and the right one will come along.. relax.
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>>25664789
>But it’s still bad?
If you didn't want it, I guess it isn't, but what guy in his 20's doesn't want sex
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>>25661942
She can tell you’re a virgin by looking at you
She just wanted a dig at you
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>>25662052
Well, I never had sex so it's a big deal to me
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>>25661942
>you wasted you twenties
>As you say skunk
See ?
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>>25662658
>involuntary celebacy = person with issues that is in need of help
>voluntary celebacy = pretentious retard or lying to himself and acutally involuntary
ftfy
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>>25669301
furshit is the gateway to dogfucking. They all do sooner or later
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>>25672052
>furshit is the gateway to dogfucking. They all do sooner or later
Would it interest you to know that I've been looking at furry porn since I was 7 years old and I have ZERO fetishes? The only thing I like is boring old penis-in-vagina sex. No incest, no diapers, no other disgusting shit. Missionary is my favorite position.

The argument that porn causes you to keep escalating to more and more disgusting shit is just a massive cope by disgusting degenerates who don't want to see the truth - that they were born as disgusting degenerates and they'll die as disgusting degenerates.
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>>25671174
wow u know everything
so wise
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>>25671174
You do realize there are people who forgo sex willingly for various reason?
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>>25661920
Celibacy by choice is a good thing. A lot of people don’t think it is, but it shows strong mental will power and in general good decision making skills.

Most people in the world live like mindless animals. This is why you hear so many girls say “I shouldn’t have fucked that guy”. Because they just listened to their bodies instead of using their brain. If they used their brain; they wouldn’t have regrets
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>>25665402
there's 2 ways of meeting girls
1. through mutual friends (parties, meet ups etc.)
2. in school

obviously 1. failed you, leaving only school for you to find them in
quit your job, go to school
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>>25673570
So how to you personally cope with the idea of being 30 years old, never had sex, never kissed, never been on a date, having your first ever relationship and the girl you're with has had 100 cocks inside of her?
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>>25673607
>1. through mutual friends (parties, meet ups etc.)
>2. in school
It’s not like that once you’re in your late twenties
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>>25673614
The past is the past
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>>25673614
>having your first ever relationship and the girl you're with has had 100 cocks inside of her?
Not him, but, leaving aside the inherent mental illness of obsessing over this kind of hypothetical, if you're celibate in the sense of waiting until marriage, you should obviously expect the same of a partner.
I would prefer to die alone than to compromise on morality.
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>>25673628
>It’s not like that once you’re in your late twenties
not him but can't you take some uni course?
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>>25673628
Yes it is
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>>25661942
What type of workplace do you work at?

I always dread these sorts of talks
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>>25673651
taking a uni course with 17-18 year olds is not an option: those are kids
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>>25673910
If you're 18 you're not a kid, and you'll get to know people that are older than that as well
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Sex will not make your life better, but can definitely make it considerably worse.

It's like junk food. You like it, but you may not necessarily want it, and might regret it a ton after the deed is done. As many people find out, casual sex does not lead to happiness or contentment. It just makes the whole thing feel cheap and empty.
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>>25673954
That is something an 18 year old would say
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>>25674240
Add ten years
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>>25661920
It's only good if you volcel to improve your life, career, education, etc. If you incel your 20s its bad. But don't worry if you take care of yourself 30-35 is still prime time to pick up women between 20 and 26.
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>>25661920
Its not bad, you don't have to if you don't want to, do what feels right to you. But this will take courage in some cases.

In my late teens I felt like I wasn't ready yet and in my twenties I just felt like I didn't want to.
I have had propositions from people that I turned down. I had relationships without sex that are much more focussed on other forms of intimacy and care. Turns out that some people even find it refreshing to be approached in a more romantic and gentle way without them feeling like sex and intimacy are always linked. But there also was someone bailed because she didn't think it was possible that I mean it, she thought it was just for the first few dates, eventually telling me "its impossible for a guy not to want sex, what is wrong with you". But in general people either know if it works or won't work for them, and are pretty open minded about it. Full disclosure I have done some sexual things for my current girlfriend because she asked me to and it felt right, but that is getting a bit off topic maybe.

If you do want sex however why wait, just talk to some people and listen to what they say about themselves, it works surprisingly well. I am average looking and once or twice a year would have women flat out tell me they wanted to have sex without me even trying, just genuinely listening to them. People just seem to be pretty lonely I guess. There is nothing scary about being naked, naked cuddles are the best. Just make sure you can trust the person you are with, you want to be able to be relaxed as you can be.

I think the main thing is that you use your 20's to find yourself and accept who you are, don't live the life someone else expects you to live. You will need to do this at some point so its best not to procrastinate on this, it will only lead to more worrying and self doubt. So no, you didn't waste your 20's if you didn't have sex.

Hope my experience helps you figure yourself out.
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>>25661946
>won’t have the experiences most young people have.
That's a good thing
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>>25662705
yes they are, they are in all places humans are.
Talk to people in a store, on a train/subway, gym/sport club, wherever you go anyway or go to socially interact. Bars or other more specific places for meeting people works too I guess but might be less effective.
If you pick the right spot you are already sure you have something in common.

Just talk to them. That is it, relax and be yourself. It really is that easy.
If you aren't a total asshole with a rotten attitude towards people or smell bad because you forgot what a shower is it will work well.
You will find someone that things will click with, whatever you might be looking for.
And if that doesn't work there always are dating apps, but those don't work as well as in person. If you hit it off you can talk the same amount in one hour as a week in text/chat messages would do. And your only competition are the few dozen people in the room, not the thousands of swipes they can do on tinder.
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>>25674494
>Talk to people in a store, on a train/subway, gym/sport
Nobody does cold approaches. This is bullshit
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>>25661939
That's masturbation
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>>25661920
well it matters, i dont like one night stands or sleeping around with diffrent women at once its weird for me.

what matters to me that there is attraction and connection with the woman then the sex can be really good, like really good

i remember when i had a old flame we started as a fwb, but we got used to each other and got along really good and the fucking was just amazing, it still didnt work out into a realtionship why "god knows"

but yeah random sluts dont do it for me, most of the time it feels good but just on a physical level if she knows what she does
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>>25674664
Try it, it works better than you might think.
Sure people are kinda surprised and slightly worried by it at first but it works. Especially if you have a somewhat reasonable thing to start a conversation about. Someone on the train packing away a book, someone's coffee order, some art supplies you are getting when in an art store for example, something related to a sport you are both doing....

But maybe that is largely culture dependent, could be way different where you are.
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>>25674722
I live in the USA and people do not Cold approach here. That is 4chan bullshit. It doesn’t happen in real life
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>>25674729
better move to Europe then.
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>>25674737
I lived 2 years in France and they are even more closed off. They won’t even look at you
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>>25661942
She probably sucked and fucked 20+ guys and multiple of them at once.
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>>25661920
Everyone that is normal without great impediments such as social anxiety has sex regularly, so if you're not having sex, it's basically a sign that you aren't normal.
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>>25661948
Someone's coping hard lmao
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>>25664625
Cope, people were whormongering since the Roman Empire. Sex feels good, and if you are no having it you are missing a huge part of the human experience. At the very least if you hit 30 and have never fucked someone you owe it to yourself to TRY to see what the hype is about.

Otherwise you have NO right to speak on it. I lost my virginity at 16 in my friends dirty laundry room. Despite the fact I didn't get to cum because we got interrupted I still wanted to have sex again so it should tell you something..
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>>25661942
>She told me that i wasted my twenties
She's probably slept with 100s of men and will live and die with regret. You wasted nothing.
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>>25671174
Spotted the porn-addicted zoomer incel
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>>25675790
And being an uncommitted degenerate hedonist is the norm now. You're spot on about that.
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>>25674494
>That is it, relax and be yourself.
Be yourself
>If you aren't a total asshole with a rotten attitude towards people
Don't be yourself

So which is it?
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>>25677060
>a total asshole with a rotten attitude towards people + good looks + 6ft + filthy rich = "Chad" whom most women let fuck

>a total asshole with a rotten attitude towards people + mediocre face + mediocre physique + perfectly adequate salary = seething incel

See, incels and the so called 'Chads' are akin. Their only difference is the latter happen to be genetic lottery winners and lucked out in their careers.

Moral of the story is, don't base your self worth on how much you're getting laid. And don't aspire to pursue a bullshit lifestyle you can't afford then whine when you fail.
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>>25677136
>don't base your self worth on how much you're getting laid
>Don't base your self worth on reality just be delusional about your state of affairs XD
lol
lmao.
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>>25677146
>reality
And the reality is that free sex is rewarded to people who merely possess attractive materialistic traits. You're just proving how shallow you are. And "winning" and argument against me does not change the fact that you're still a seething incel.
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>>25677166
>And "winning" and argument
Why post here then? Fuck off.
It's purely mathematics. Your worth is based on results not some mystic dildoing yourself up the ass and navel gazing "confidence".
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>>25677172
>Your worth is based on results
There are results from being a righteous and respectful man, just in various facets other than sex life. And some cheap women choose to ignore that or even grew unable to notice said results and still fall for abusive sociopaths who happen to possess considerable sex appeal.

>Why post here then? Fuck off.
This site is public space, kid. You've no authority to kick me out. Try to resolve your anger issues.
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>>25661920
>Is it actually “bad” if someone isn’t sexually active in their twenties?
There's this little thing in life I like to call "the questions". Yes, exactly like that, with the definite article "the".

The questions are simply always there and they're sort of like the expectations of society, juxtaposed against our own personal wants and dreams.
>When are you getting a girlfriend? (when you're a teen)
>When are you getting married? (when you have a gf)
>When is the first baby coming? (when you're married)
>When is the second baby coming? (when you have a kid)
etc etc. In some places of the world, questions like these aren't really asked, but a lot of people do this. It's just a sort of societal expectation people put on you, but you don't really have to fulfill any of that if you don't want to. As long as you do whatever you want with your life and are happy with it, while simultaneously not hurting other people, you're really just fine in my book.
You wanna go and grow flowers in your backyard? Go ahead.
You wanna go hiking? You wanna paint, sculpt, compose music, travel, write, discuss, help other people, etc etc.? Go ahead.

You're literally as free as you let yourself be.
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>>25677195
>There are results from being a righteous and respectful man
https://youtu.be/2WJXSTfCOL4?t=200
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>>25677206
>As long as you do whatever you want with your life and are happy with it
That's not how it works.
You have specific objectives you have to accomplish as a living being to be happy. There is no place for "want" in it.
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>>25677239
And who are you to say that? Seriously, what are the "objectives" you need to accomplish?
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>>25677250
>what are the "objectives" you need to accomplish?
Food, water, reproduction
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>>25677271
Yes, yes and no.
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>>25677206
>As long as you do whatever you want with your life and are happy with it, while simultaneously not hurting other people
Don't put too much emphasis on solely this. It has to be in tandem with LEARNING. You need to be knowledgeable and perceptive enough to be certain that every actions and decisions you take does not inflict harm on others.

Here's the interesting part: as you grow as a person, your aspirations will change and you'll be drawn into pursuing nobler and selfless causes. So now that you're wiser, it can be said that you're still "doing whatever you want", but it won't be centered around hedonism or anything materialistic.

This is what most people neglect. They're too focused on exercising their right to "do whatever they please", but they're oblivious to the fact that what they pursue is selfish, and is harmful both to them and others.
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>>25677282
Let's test your hypothesis:
This is your only amoeba.
Keep it alive and happy with the parameters that you have stated.
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>>25677218
Wouldn't want to be a part of a community that shames someone for trying to be a decent person. Matter of fact, i'm part of a circle that appreciates my effort in real life. And maybe you'll learn to not to be nihilistic if you'd actually go outside and stop trying to be a wannabe Chad lite. Respond with sentences, not resorting to memes as a cop out.
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>>25677299
You're not "decent", you're idiotic. A cuckold letting others stand on top of your head and then claim "I am so honorable!".
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>>25677298
But humans aren't amoeba, you literally can't compare this.
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>>25677304
>letting others stand on top of your head
>immediately associate being honorable as letting everyone walk all over me
Heh. You're only proving how much of a socially inept seething little twat you are. I bet you're never genuine in being nice. Always with ulterior motives, like a simp. Just stop, kid. You're exposing yourself.
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>>25677322
Answer the question:
How do you keep a living organism happy and alive within your parameters?
It has nothing to do with being "human" or a "microbe".
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>>25677327
>immediately associate being honorable as letting everyone walk all over me
>I forego preproduction and keep working for other peoples reproductive success
>not a cuck
Genuinely explain.
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>>25677333
>How do you keep a living organism happy and alive within your parameters?
But humans aren't that simple. We're animals and living organisms, sure, but we also have consciousness, we're talkers, thinkers, capable of high abstraction, of language, etc etc.
And for a lot of people, life isn't really as simple as "eat, work, live, breed and die". For a lot people, it is, but having kids isn't a prerequisite for happiness, because happiness is a subjective thing.
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>>25677390
Can you be happy if you're cold, wet, thirsty don't have any food and haven't slept in a month?
If so why are you posting here, eating, food, talking to people, etc. instead of burying yourself alive and being happy without doing anything?
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>>25677414
>Can you be happy if you're cold, wet, thirsty don't have any food and haven't slept in a month?
Strawman troll, I never said that. I answered yes, yes and no, because that's personally what I consider to be a baseline for living. If I'm fed, somewhere warm and can live comfortably, I'd consider my life fine. But a lot of people, including you, consider sex, reproduction and partnership to be the peak of life and if you don't do that, you're wasting your life or something, which is just not true.
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>>25677426
Eating food and reproduction is the EXACT same thing.
If you don't eat you can't be happy.
If you don't reproduce you can't be happy.
What don't you understand?
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>>25677434
>If you don't eat you can't be happy.
That's because you'll literally die.
>If you don't reproduce you can't be happy.
In comparison, you won't die if you don't have sex. It's really as simple as that.
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>>25677343
>"i forego preproduction and keep working for other peoples reproductive success"
Firstly, you're a sad fuck to be so paranoid on how being a honorable person will jeopardize your chance of fulfilling your wet dreams and teenage fantasy.

Secondly, wrong assumption. I don't bite more than i can chew, so i'm fine not impregnating more women than i can care for. And unlike your spineless ass, i stick to my principles.

Thirdly, i never put focus of this discussion on "reproduction". I'm inclined to think your focal shifting unknowingly implied how you worship sex (because of your lacking thereof). It's only strengthened by the fact that you apparently won't let being a decent person get in the way of pussy. That's the reason women are repulsed by you, kid. You're a fake and a wannabe.

And last but not least, your vocabularies reveal how you're just the average good-for-nothing 4chan incel. Now have a sense of shame/maturity and make yourself scarce from this discussion. There are other boards such as /b/ that'd be more welcoming of your retarded way of thinking.
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>>25677446
>In comparison, you won't die if you don't have sex.
Go on then.
Show me on the amoeba where it doesn't die if it doesn't reproduce.
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>>25677456
>Yes girl, stand on my head with your dirty feet
>Yes.... ohh... I'm such a good person helping humanitys gene pool at my own expense
>Yes impregnate her, I don't deserve to pass on my genes. OHHHHH...
You can't make this shit up lads.
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>>25677457
But we already established that amoeba aren't the same as humans, not just because humans are much more complex and we have consciousness and shit like that, but also because amoeba reproduce ASEXUALLY. They literally NEED to reproduce to live, where as you don't need to. It's literally not the same thing.
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>>25677471
>But we already established that amoeba aren't the same as humans,
We established that amoeba is a living organism same as humans, nothing else.
>not just because humans are much more complex and we have consciousness and shit like that
Irrelevant.
>It's literally not the same thing.
So humanity doesn't end if you only have 2 people and they don't reproduce? They live forever or what?
Explain.
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>>25677478
>So humanity doesn't end if you only have 2 people and they don't reproduce? They live forever or what?
No, but I'm trying to say reproduction isn't a prerequisite for happiness.
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>>25677494
>reproduction isn't a prerequisite for happiness.
Basic survival is prerequisite for happiness, we have already established that.
No food, no water, no sleep, no reproduction = unhappy.
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>>25677469
And no one's laughing with you. I'm actually intrigued by your insistence on me being a cuck. Not once have i demonstrated how i would permit any other man get handsy on my woman. I'm thinking this is what they call "projection". I would also assume that you label every person you don't agree with as cucks.

Your sentences hold no values. It'd be wise for you to stop polluting this thread. But i'd be a fool to hope that you're wise enough to do just that. I will no longer respond, kid.
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>>25677060
Fair point, if you are a total asshole with a rotten attitude towards people my advice won't work. But that is just a minority of people (or about half of 4chan I guess).
But at that point you have bigger issues than just not having sex.

Or maybe visit /soc maybe that works for people with that sort of disposition.
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>>25677271
>reproduction
Are you having kids everytime you have a hook up?
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>>25677501
so, how many children do you have?
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>>25677060
You don't want advice.
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>>25677271
>>25677434
The majority of males of a species never reproduce. You are one of them, seethe.
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>>25677664
As in?
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>>25677671
Go roleplay chastity cuckoldry somewhere else mate.
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>>25662658
you are coping. If attractive girl came to you and asked you out would you say no?
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>>25677501
I'm not the guy you responded to but sex is no different than chocolate cake. Yes, it's good and it feels nice, but you won't die without it. Nobody NEEDS chocolate cake. If you feel that you do, then you're just a brainwashed incel. I'm a 30yo virgin and I'm doing just fine. I've had opportunities to have sex but I just don't want it. The juice isn't worth the squeeze. I'd literally kill myself if I had a kid that I had to take care of. The only way to make sure that doesn't happen is to never have sex. Sex isn't worth the 0.0001% chance I'll get someone pregnant and they'll refuse to abort. I wouldn't eat cake either if there was a 0.0001% chance that I'd end up with a fucking kid. NOT worth it.
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>>25678130
Then cut off your dick and be a tranny already?
It has absolutely nothing to do with sex.
It's about reproduction. A necessary function to survival.
If I could clone myself I would do that.
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>>25678140
>Then cut off your dick
Stupid, stupid take. I like my dick. It helps me pee and feels good when I masturbate. Just because I'm not sticking it in some whore doesn't mean it has no purpose.

>It's about reproduction. A necessary function to survival.
Uh, no. I'll easily live 80 years without having to take care of a womb turd. Why anyone would want to have kids is beyond me. They're a huge expense and a lot of work. They're annoying and disgusting. I fucking HATE kids.

>If I could clone myself I would do that.
Why do you care if there's more of you around? What difference does it make? Once you're dead, you're dead. It doesn't matter if you have 0 children or a million. You're fucking dead. Having kids is just a massive cope for people who can't accept their own mortality.
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>>25678157
>Mortality
>accept
>cope
>want
A deluded being.
It has nothing to with what the fuck this organ of delusion called brain hallucinates for you.
Reproduction is the only true purpose of life. Opinions are irrelevant against pure physical reality.
You're a lowly hedonist.
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>>25678185
>Reproduction is the only true purpose of life.
Then you're no different than a virus. A virus has no purpose other than to reproduce itself. I, however, am a person. I choose what my purpose is. My purpose is to make friends and meaningful connections with people and enjoy my time here on Earth, not obsess about reproduction like a fucking virus. Even if I was a literal king and had servants to take care of my kids I still wouldn't want them and I still wouldn't have sex.
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>>25678201
So you are malfunctioning as an organism. Why spread your idiocy, "like a virus"?
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>>25661920
It's bad, if you rarely get female attention/validation, and the only female attention you get generally comes from fatsos or extreme uggos (I'm fit and decent looking, not a Chad by any means, but not ugly either).

I recently had a really pretty girl, who we had a lot in common with and who was initally into me (or so I thought), use me as a rebound before going back to her ex. We didn't even get to the kissing stage, let alone sex (we went on two dates in total). Now she's back with her ex and fucking him, while I'm slaving away 50 hours per week, rotting in loneliness and feeling as undesirable as ever.

I hate women.
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>>25678510
Unironically why do you work? Just to pay for your own cage? I am only asking this because I am nearing end of college and am expected to get a job but I never had a gf either so I dont get what the point would be
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>>25678834
>I don’t understand the point of having money
so you can live?
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>>25678842
But if you don't have a gf - reproduction you don't have a reason to live?
How do you explain yourself?
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>>25678842
Surely you can get social support and live with your parents? I know people in their 30s still doing this. If you dont have the option of having your own family I dont see the point of working, are you planning to live in some large mansion playing vidya by yourself or what?
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>>25678857
He's probably one of those who fell for the corporate "meaning and purpose :)))" propaganda campaigns.
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>>25678849
you don’t “reproduce” with a gf
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>>25678934
What?
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>>25678945
you’re saying, if you get a gf that you will have sex with intent to imprégnant?

Do you even know if you can have children? Are you sterile?
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>>25678952
What other reason is there to have a gf?
>Do you even know if you can have children? Are you sterile?
That's so rare that I don't have to consider it.
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>>25674494
>If you aren't a total asshole with a rotten attitude towards people
My default mode is violent workaholic that will drag people across gravel by the collar if they as much as look away from their work station.
So no, "being yourself" is retarded (((advice))).
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>>25678960
so, you would only have sex with her with intent to get her pregnant? No oral sex or condoms/birth control?
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>>25661940
>As far as sex goes, the public is oversexualized. Its in pop music, pop film and television, its constant and ridiculous. Sex is not a sport, its not an art form. Its been propped up as the most important thing in life. Its really not.

Sex sells. It's a giant industry. There's literally incentive to make you feel like shit and wanting to kill yourself because you aren't having it. They can sell you so much crap revolving around sex and the pursuit of it.
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>>25678996
Sure I eat candy once in a while, but is the purpose of eating to consume the sweetness of candy? No.
Purpose of eating is to not die and have energy, and to accomplish that you eat something other than candy.
Same with putting pp in vaggoo. Fun is fine, but the main reason is always and only reproduction.
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>>25662796
Same here. I'm married and have only had sex with my wife. Sure, sometimes I fantasize about sex with other women... But it's extremely low on the "List of things I regret or wish I'd done differently"

Most of the things I regret revolve around career choices, investments, and my lack of friends. Pussy is overated.
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>>25679003
>There's literally incentive to make you feel like shit and wanting to kill yourself because you aren't having it.
But there isn't? It's completely within a living organism nature to lose it if it goes without sex for too long.
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>>25678834
I'm >>25678510

I work because I need to survive, because my parents won't always be around and because I live in a country different than the US, where it's hard to get NEETbux and the NEETbux themselves are low.
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>>25679092
Sell drugs, steal copper.
You have no excuse.
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>>25678849
I’m 29 and make $144k a year. I have a luxury apartment in a high rise. Pool and bar on the roof. Super nice. All I do is work, lift, and play video games. What is so horrible about that?
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>>25679253
So an eunuch slave with a few more toys?
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>>25679266
I have a penis and balls.
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>>25679092
You will inherit their house and you really dont need to work more than few hours a week to sustain yourself. At least that is my line of thought
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>>25679280
Of no use if you bend over and take it up the ass so everyone else can cum into cunnies while standing ontop of your back and shit out their own kids while you rot away with no future and no stake.
And you do it voluntarily.
Tragic.
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>>25679310
You’re jealous. Also, you will never have children. Ever.
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>>25679326
>You’re jealous
I have half of what you have and it's all still pointless. Why would I want more of what I don't need?
>you will never have children. Ever.
That won't be my problem when it comes to it.
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>>25679347
You won’t be a dad
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>>25679366
Seethe.
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>>25679394
>political cartoon
Lower end midwit
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>>25666456
Me again. You don't want to have sex with her, fine, that's not a fucking problem to me that's your business, but tell HER that you don't want to hear about the constant sex bullshit. If you are so afraid of your career, then take it to HR and complain about HER. Where the fuck are your balls, dude?
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>>25661920

this
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>>25679623
Stop bumping this thread u idiot
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>>25679394
https://youtu.be/LB9lObWclFQ
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>>25679632
Bump
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>>25679632
I made this post myself.
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>>25661946
>won’t have the experiences most young people have

Why do you base the value of your own life around other people's experiences?

>>25661942
exactly my point. We are incredibly comparative and think life is just a 1 - 2 - 3 sequential thing.

What even is life? Why does anything even exist? It's such an abstract concept yet we think applying concepts such as "being a virgin past your 30s" is inherently a bad thing. They're such vague-ass "guidelines" that have no substance when it comes to individual situations. Just another casting of a wide net in order to justify their own validations in order to make them feel better about their own decisions.
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>>25680013
>I'm a 35 year old childless loser and this is my cope
the post.
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>>25680000
wow quads
good job!
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>>25680028
proving my point even further, nice job
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>>25680057
Which was what exactly?
That "I swear I'm not a cuck, even though I worked my life away for someone else to have kids on my labor and dime!"?
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>>25680079
That life's meaning in of itself is solely based on the individual.
Any attempt at comparative analysis of a person's "life checkpoints" just breeds destructive egotistical self-validation and the continuous alienation of those who aren't included in the status quo.

It's not a matter of "boo-hoo chads suck because I'm a 30 y/o virgin" that I'm arguing about, I'm arguing about the upholding of such a boundary in order to validate one's own existence compared to others.
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>>25680169
Wrong.
There's only 1one true purpose in life and that's reproduction by any means.
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>>25680179
I know you're just memeing at this point, but I'll take the bait

Sure, but if you zoom out to a macro scale, everything that we will ever do, achieve, and innovate, will eventually come to dust.

Everything that we've ever known will settle into the nothingness void of infinity as the molecules that build up this universe will disintegrate. Evidence that you existed will be over there, and evidence that I ever existed will be floating down somewhere. All of our generations of work, and passion, and achievements, will escape into the vacuum of separation.

Let's say your genes are the best. They've won. 500,000 years from now, your family tree still remains. Great job! Now what? Extend them for another 500,000 years? Okay great, now what? Repeat ad nauseum until the last molecule that holds the last piece of evidence that your genes ever existed, only to lose its strength and disappear, along with everything else in this universe. Billions of years gone by, and for what? So your genes can be the last one to fade away?

TL;DR
Humans have inherent value that exists independent of their actions (criminals are still humans). Nature invented us. Whatever philosophy is trying to get to, we are already experiencing it. If you have sex, cool. If you don't have sex, also cool.

A better question would be, why does knowing if someone has or doesn't have sex so important to you? Why do you place sex so high on a pedestal?
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>>25680235
Also wrong.
You're not a cosmic being, that space rock shit is irrelevant.
You're also not a dumb machine designed for the single purpose of folding the left side of a shirt.
Balance to your actual place in reality and it's - reproduction. 500 years back or forward, genes, family, siblings, none of that matters.
Only cooming inside a vagina matters in the end. Cloning yourself even is preferable.
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>>25680269
>I read an evolutionary biology book once
the post.



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