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Last thread: >>25357623

RULES:
Be nice to each other
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I'm trying not to talk about fetishes or philosophy because it's a wholesome holiday so
What do I talk about
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Femanons, what do you want me to say to you when I ask you out?

A) Some indirect bullshit to get the conversation rolling
or
B)Just ask you straight out and get it over with
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Women, how do you like the lower parts of a man?

Do you like it all shaved, both ass and genitals?
Do you have a specific cut you like on the genitals?
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Pretty horny rn, any girl wanna make me cum?
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WOMEN WILL YOU STOP MAKING ME SO FUCKING HORNY?!
JUST FUCKING DISAPPEAR FROM REALITY!
I can;t take this anymore fuckshitfags! I should just pin you all down an d
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>>25359451
>boys are pumpkins, girls are pies
Good rules too.

>>25359472
Favorite foods?

>>25359474
The conversation shouldn't start with asking me out, but get to the point quickly. You need to thread the needle between ambushing me and wasting my time.

>>25359476
I haven't seen enough dicks to have a real preference, but in general I like as little hair as possible.

>>25359489
I'm sure you can find a nice woman on a porn site to help you with that.

>>25359511
I think a world without either gender would be a sad place indeed.
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>>25359474
get to the point, we're busy
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>>25359474
If its over text I like the indirect small talk to start, instead of just immediately asking.
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>>25359474
Walk up to me an immediately state your business.
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>>25359533
>>25359541
>>25359552
Do you all really prefer immediate asking out over getting to know each other?
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Gals, what is a good question or comment to women? Like at bullcrap parties, when I have to talk to them. shoes?
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>>25359530
I like all food that's why I'm fat, that and being depressed and avoiding people
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>>25359571
What is a bullcrap party
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>>25359474
>>25359564
Well your question is missing a lot of context.
Either you’re a random stranger coming up to me to ask me out in which case: I’m probably not interested and I don’t want your small talk. Just get directly to the point about why you’re talking to me.

Or
We already know each other and are friends in which case: why do we need an awkward convo? I know you already. Just ask me out, nerd.
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Where’s the balance between being a raging misogynist and a wimpy nu-male?
I want to have empathy for human beings, regardless of gender but I know I’m not a bitch.
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>>25359564
I didn’t think the question was about our very first meeting, I was thinking if it was someone I knew for a long time
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>>25359577
Just a party.
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Women,
How much does it cost to play FFwhatever or ESO?
I almost started ESO before Bethesda gave me reason to despise them with 76 and all the tranny pandering type stuff.
Now I'm thinking I might take up an MMO to meet women but I don't know which one and don't want to pay a lot of money.
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>>25359583
Understanding that men and women are different and have different strengths and weaknesses, but not hating women or putting them on a pedestal. Neither sex is superior nor inferior and we need each other. We wouldn’t be here if it weren’t for the other.
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>>25359623
That's very true, and the problem is it smooths over minor things but abortion really doesn't go away.
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I am literally racist because I'm autistic.
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>>25359618
Would be easier to google this
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Both genders.
Are you the only one (or one of the very few) who isn't in a long term relationship or married in your circle of friends? Does it bother you or even stress you out sometimes or not?
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>>25359649
Yes, but I want women to tell me what world to play on or guild to join or which minigame is comfy or all about how they enjoy this or that about their chosen game.
It's a conversation starter.
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>>25359618
>How much does it cost to play FFwhatever or ESO?
13€/month with the least efficient plan (AKA Monthly billing), but don't get roped into the longer term ones unless you know you'll play that long. FFXIV is a pretty good game, and it has a pretty good community that's usually easy to engage with just by starting to talk to random people in the cities.

I don't know anything about ESO.
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What do male anons think of Jordan Peterson?
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>>25359648
What?
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>>25359663
Did I stutter?
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>>25359618
FFXIIVIVX is free up to level 60 and includes the first expansion, then $15/mo after that.
ESO is free after buying the base game (currently on sale for $6), with optional $15/mo "ESO Plus" that unlocks all the DLC... the latest expansion is on sale too, and can include all the past expansions with it for a bit of extra money.
Both are pretty great value for little or no cost.
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>>25359654
>Both genders.
F
>Are you the only one (or one of the very few) who isn't in a long term relationship or married in your circle of friends?
Only one I know, yes.
>Does it bother you or even stress you out sometimes or not?
Yes. It stresses me out a lot, especially because they all act like this is super easy, and most of them cruised to a relationship without much trouble.
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>>25359633
Move somewhere where that’s illegal, or vote against it. That’s what I’m doing and I’m a woman. Abortion isn’t men vs. women. About as many women are opposed to it as not, and about as many men are for it as not, in the US at least.
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>>25359667
I wouldn't know, I'm not you. We're on a text-based imageboard, afterall.
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If I become prettier will people be nicer to me?
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>>25359662
Classic example of someone who says some things that I like but overall is retarded.
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>>25359658
I mostly just hang out, do dailies and RP with my guild in ESO these days, and you only need the base game for that.
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>>25359677
No, but if you become healthy and well-kept they will.
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>>25359658
Have better conversation starters than harping on trannies and being a negative nelly, even if you play these games no woman is going to want you close
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>>25359662
I know the sort of guys who need a movement or terms for themselves to not be simps, cucks, etc like him, and I know he will break character and resort to manipulative personal insults when talking about anti-Semites or anything beyond his personal idea of what is out of the public dialogue but should be discussed, and I know he had a point early on insulting someone for dropping him a dollar, basically being a choosy beggar, and I know the reason people look up to him is more due to his degree and the way he speaks than what he says.

He might have a lot of good things to say but from what I've listened to he says obvious stuff and/or misses the point and just proceeds with these insular, simplistic ideas that don't really fit with reality, like he hasn't thought it all the way through before he starts evangelising for something.

Basically, I'm going to stop pussyfooting around and say it:
I think I'm smarter and less delusional than Jordan Peterson, and ultimately he's not enough of a departure from the norm in a direction I consider correct for me to be interested in it.
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>>25359677
Yes
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>>25359654
F
Yes and yes it does sometimes stress me out and make me feel ugly but I never voice any of these concerns to my friends because I know I never put myself out there so not very fair to complain I guess
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>>25359618
FF is the budget option because it's free to start, and you can immediately meet catgirls in Limsa Lominsa
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>>25359675
No I didn't stutter, because we're typing, not talking. There's nothing for me to stutter with.
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>>25359654
M
Not the only one that doesn't currently have a relationship but I am the only one that has never had one. I sometimes worry that it'll come up in conversation and be embarrassing.
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>>25359669
What's the max level of FFMCIVXIVC?
Which one of the two should I play?
Will you twink me some gear? Normally I just play multiplayer games mostly like singleplayer, like I played LOTRO for a little while, but now I want to try to be social.
Also which one has less hotbar/cooldown abilities, those annoy me.
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>>25359702
I didn't ask.
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>>25359674
I don't know where to move. I couldn't find a country where it was illegal, guns were legal, and wasn't more socialist than here.
Where are you moving?
I moved to a state with laws in place to ban it if Roe v Wade and that earlier one are overturned.
I've been thinking about trying to make a micronation, I feel so trapped and hopeless.
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>>25359670
>>25359696

I'm single here femanons, if you still want to marry me
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Another girl told me that guys never ask me out because I look unapproachable. What does this mean?
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>>25359710
You replied, so you got a reply back.
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>>25359717
Post face, I'll be brutally honest if you're attractive or not
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>>25359691
I don't want to talk to women who pretend the troon pushing and virtue signalling that corporations have been doing is in any way normal or tolerable.
>>25359689
Sounds pretty good, how long do dailies take about?
>>25359697
kek based, I'm not furry though
Might lean towards ESO because I know the lore/setting and sounds like no level cap on it to avoid monthly?
Maybe Todd is just assuming direct control of my brain though.
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>>25359717
Most likely either bad aesthetic or the way you carry yourself looks closed off/hostile.
Would you describe yourself as having resting bitch face?
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>>25359489
Help you how?
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>>25359717
RBF?
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>>25359674
I don't know how this idea that being anti-abortion is a ourely male thing got so common. It kind of pisses me off, I am pro-abortion but I hate how people try to frame been against it an a misogyny thing.
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To both genders, 26 yo male
My nephew is a painfully shy and withdrawn 7 year old. My family isn't very empathetic towards that since we're a family of gregarious extroverts. From the time he was 4 or 5 his parents, aunts and uncles, and grandparents have all shamed him and scolded him and berated him for being the way that he is. My sister and her husband (his parents) gave him the silent treatment for a week last year, to teach him a lesson about "how it feels when someone talks to you and you ignore them" and kept it up even though he cried a lot starting from the very first day. I have never, even a single time, heard anyone voice concern that he might have self-esteem issues or social anxiety, nothing but anger towards him for being withdrawn and shy and "weird." I have spoken out about this a couple of times, but my family always changes the subject or ignores my texts and overall they give the impression that they feel I'm being unreasonable and so they don't want to listen to my bullshit. Is there anything I can do or do I just have to hope my nephew becomes more 'normal' and to my family's liking with age?
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>>25359715
Is this one thing really a big enough deal to you to justify moving?
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Why does eating turkey always make me so sleepy?
>tfw no SweetNLow to double snuggle with my wife after feasting
This feel shouldn't fuckin' exist but it do.
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To women:

I matched with this girl on Tinder (rarely happens because I'm picky) and she's making it very obvious she thinks I'm very attractive. Is it weird that I'm kind of off-put by this? Like, there's very little actual conversation going on, she just thinks I'm hot. I think she's cute too but I'm not just looking to fuck right out the gate, at least not after at least a date or two.
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>>25359725
Dont want or like troon, but want to play with them. okay buddy
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>>25359735
Sounds emotionally abusive. Nothing you can really do though unfortunately if the family isn’t willing to listen. You can try to personally let him know that there’s nothing wrong with how he is but I feel like the behavior his family displays will trigger a negative feedback loop and he will get more withdrawn and more ridiculed in return. My condolences
I have a bit of experience with this
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>>25359739
"This one thing" of millions of human beings being killed off all over the globe every year?
Yeah, and I've already moved once over it.
It's also big enough for me to be currently planning to start my own tiny country somewhere extremely remote for me and people like me to get away from you assholes.
Things don't have to personally detriment me for me to care about them.
>>25359755
I don't want to play with them either.
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>>25359752
If you're a guy:
Because of Leptin, carbs, and tryptophan.
If you're a girl:
Because of friendship and being close with family.
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>>25359733
I hate the abortion discussion because to me, the entire discussions seems to always be about the wrong things. If the discussion is "who has the right to control life" is the focus, then most of the anti-abortion arguments immediately undermines themselves the second they refuse to address what to do after the child is put into the world to parents who absolutely didn't want them. And on the flip side, most pro-abortion arguments make them sound like total fucking psychopaths.

I just want what's best for the children, and if we force them to be brought into this world, we need a system to actually help and protect them and give them a fair chance at life. Not force them into this world, and then leave them in the care of said psychopaths who was ready to kill the fetus. That's the kind of actions that makes the anti-abortion people look just as psychotic as the pro-abortion people.

Why do we care so little about our children, I don't get it.
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>>25359735
I'm sorry that you're the only one who cares, because if that continues he's going to become very mentally unwell. Expect them to become suicidal and have a lack of identity, or fall into drug abuse. If by a miracle he becomes "normal" he will ghost all of you.
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>>25359715
Truthfully I haven’t figured it out either, but I won’t let it make me lose hope. Don’t give up, anon. Focus on what you can do within your own power, like creating a happy family and raising children.
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>>25359706
Max level in FFXXIIVV is 80 currently, being raised to 90 with the new expansion next month. I don't know much about it.
I'm biased towards ESO because I'm an Elder Scrolls nerd, but a lot of my friends quit WoW for FF instead. It's a solid game.
Gear is pretty weird in ESO, everything scales to your level, so any gear you get free would quickly be outclassed by world drops.
FF is traditional hotbar/cooldown combat, while ESO is action combat. Some people call it "spammy" but I like it a lot.
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>>25359735
Yet another reason why all extroverts should be gassed
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>>25359735
You should talk to your sister one on one about it if things aren't better next time you see them. If they continue to ignore your concerns you could offer to babysit or visit him more. Idk what else you can do but this is a heartwarming post and nice you want to help him. Lots of kids do grow out of shyness eventually especially if the parents have little patience for accommodating the shyness.
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>>25359768
>I hate the discussion because if [what pro-baby-killers want to force the discussion to be about, then [cliché talking points of theirs about how without le epic socialism life isn't worth living!]
>we just don't le care!
Wow so fresh and original and insightful.
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>>25359771
I really can't find any decent place, if you hear about my micronation in the years to come once I start publishing you should try and join up.
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>>25359721
I’m not gonna post my face on this hellsite
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>>25359729
Sure I guess
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>>25359790
Come on don't be like that, don't you want the average /atoga/ poster to stalk you and make your life unbearable?
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>>25359787
Thank you anon, that’s very sweet. Goodspeed.
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>>25359725
>not furry
ESO has scalies too, if that's your thing...
Dailies can take as long or short as you want, since each DLC has added more, but most rewards are cosmetic so if you don't care about looks, you don't have to. I just do daily crafting writs which I can literally do in under a minute, because those give currency for housing stuff and cool armor.
The level cap has been 50 since it launched 7 years ago, and everything scales to you, so you can go anywhere you want as a newbie, even the newest content. At max level you get "champion points" that give you lots of different perks instead.
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>>25359715
>>25359787
>making a micronation
Fucking based
This is essentially a dream goal of mine
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>>25359782
It's neither fresh nor original, but people still don't care. I don't care about your politics.

Don't pretend to care about babies if you are willing to leave them in the care of people who already expressed desire to murder them. You are just as bad if that's what you are advocating.
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>>25359780
This but kids only grow out of shyness by having a safe and welcoming environment to be in.
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>>25359732
Yes
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>>25359808
>if you don't want unborn children to be killed you're LITERALLY AS BAD AS the people who do! Existence is le pain!
Fuck off you trained, indoctrinated nihilist.
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>>25359782
Maybe both sides are actually fucking retarded? What's hilarious is when people make fun of ""centrists"" their only critique is centrists... ACTUALLY BEING INTERESTED IN THE BEST OUTCOME! Gee, fuck me silly for not wanting to kill kids or force kids into a cruel world where they're abandoned, I'm so fucking horrible.
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>>25359797
Then that’s why. You probably just look mean and or emotionally unavailable.
Work on posture and unironically smile more I guess.
The old men in public are always onto something when they tell me to smile more.
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>>25359805
this is a mod, right
Anyways, sounds cool, when I get my new hardware I'll give it a try, along with FFVIXCVIXM since it's free
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>>25359814
You know, you make a compelling case for abortion.
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>>25359814
>Still refuses to address it and just name-calls
Classic. If you can't explain your stance, you are brainwashed. I know why I feel the way I do, you clearly don't. Otherwise you would actually defend your stance, and not resort to ad hominem.
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>>25359816
>force kids into a cruel world
So work on the world, rather than killing the kids.
Kids can't have a choice about existing before they exist, and if you think existence is itself immoral, you should repair that personally, not project it onto the world.
You really are horrible if you're a "centrist" about whether or not to kill unborn children simply because child abuse exists, and you should expect to be despised.
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>>25359670
>they all act like this is super easy
This so much. My friends keep telling me that I should just go out there and it should be easy since apparently I'm funny and handsome or whatnot. All of them just somehow got together through friends, they didn't have to look for their partners and it makes me slightly irritated that they talk like this.
>>25359696
I see, yeah sometimes it does make you feel that way.
>>25359705
Same here. It came up for me a couple of times but I just say it as it is. Most people think I'm talking BS and I don't think they'd really care that much.
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>>25359733
>I don't know how this idea that being anti-abortion is a ourely male thing got so common.
Women have always been pro-abortion since time immemorial. The Catholic church in the... 1600s I believe? Once had to ban mothers sleeping with their children because mothers kept using it as an excuse to smother the unwanted ones to death. In medieval times mothers drowned their autistic children, and mothers in tribes will take children that cry the wrong way and smash their heads on sharp rocks. The eugenicist drive to eliminate all non-Chads runs deep in women and includes their own children.
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>>25359822
Because most of the anti abortion and abortion advocates are emotionally involved.
They don't have anything to say except rage when you propose forcing a mother trying to kill their child to bear a child should at least compel you (as a society) to take care of the unwanted child.

What's funny is Christians used to actually... Y'know... Do just that.
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>>25359827
There is no happy world when you're up for adoption at 0 years of age retard.
Provide them basic universal guarantees and then we can talk about your emotional stance.

You should be despised for forcing life into the world and then abandoning it. You're worse than those calling for 'murder'. I'd much rather a kid never be born than have to spend the rest of his life crippled by the shit show which is our current child care system for the unwanted.
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>>25359821
You know, I encourage you to abort yourself specifically.
>>25359822
I restated your argument to show its patent absurdity in comparing anything short of an ideal existence to literal death, which you then ignored to give a bitchy response.
>>25359834
Okay, well I don't want to put up with your shit, so pay me not to kill you, or else you're immoral.
The entire argument is emotional hostage-taking, you can't be against killing unless you're willing to take responsibility for a life you didn't have a hand in creating, or else you should not care about that killing. It's innately psychopathic reasoning, yet you all keep repeating it.
It's like saying I should support all homeless being killed, or else full socialism, when the socialists are the ones advancing the conditions causing more and more people to be both mentally ill and homeless.
Endless false dichotomies and bullshit.
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My daughter is 2 and spilled rocks EVERYWHERE in my home... I am suuuper comfortable and don't wanna clean.

Can rocks be allowed inside the home? I think I should just concede to her will. Maybe I should just turn my floors into gravel...
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>>25359849
Rocks are fine, dirt is not. It's pretty likely that those rocks carried dirt inside. So get off your ass.
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>>25359848
It's not murder. Plain and simple. It's extinguishing a living organism yet to have it's first conscious thought.
You're insane to force someone to bear a child they never asked for.

And every time you post I just find myself being more and more amazed at how sociopathic you are. You're doing a horrible job at convincing anyone.
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>>25359844
Actually most adopted children live excellent lives. Your delusions about adoption from a few cherry-picked horror stories are no good argument for anything, let alone killing unborn children.
In fact, there are more couples in the US currently looking to adopt than there are children available to adopt.

Open adoption is also the current norm despite your outdated 1950s propagandized idea of reality.
You know nothing, yet you insist on repeating what you hear mindlessly.
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>>25359856
If you kill a human being for any case other than self-defense, you deserve to die.
Also, learn to use condoms, you fucking psychopaths.
That is all I have to say.
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>>25359857
>Actually most adopted children live excellent lives
Key word: adopted. Up for adoption ==/== adopted.
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>>25359853
Ugh... Why do we gotta hate dirt so much? Can't the floors just be rocks and dirt? At least I would have a good excuse to wear shoes indoors.
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>>25359860
abortion is self defense dumbass
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>>25359834
So, I'll fully admit I'm emotionally invested too, I really think my parents should have just aborted me with the way the world works, but my opinion currently is that abortion should be legal. However, that's a short term necessity due to a lack of system or desire to actual handle this properly. The dream situation is that we actually just set up a system for taking care of the unwanted kids. We already have alimony, just let parents give them up and set up a system to help them. I'm going into the Orphanage business soonish specifically because I want to help the kids who just didn't get the right shot at life, and they do deserve it.

It's really weird that communities like this existed in the past, but we just completely neglected it as we evolved, and now orphanages are basically a thing most societies don't really want to acknowledge these days, and the laws governing them are archaic and impossible to get through, to the point where most people just adopt from third world countries because it's the only place you will realistically get through the process if you aren't a millionare couple who have never experienced any medical issues, physical or mental.

It's frustrating knowing there is nothing to do as one person. Especially since the church has become so focused on the stupid "core family values" idea that people would rather abusive an unwanted child than just give it up like they should.
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>>25359848
>I restated your argument
No you didn't. Nice try, though.
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>family is fighting
>ATOGA is fighting
:(
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>>25359834
>What's funny is Christians used to actually... Y'know... Do just that.
It's hard when the state doesn't let you run orphanages anymore.
>Noooooo we found dead children buried on the grounds of your schools! It doesn't matter that the state-run ones killed and abused even more children!
>Noooooo you must let gays adopt the children that are left in your care! Also give them puberty blockers!
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>>25359875
>I really think my parents should have just aborted me with the way the world works
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>>25359886
Turn that frown

UPSIDE DOWN

Did you eat any good food? I hate thanksgiving but usually the food is halfway decent enough.
I’m used to people drunkenly screaming at each other and literally fist fighting on thanksgiving, so I’m thankful just to be alone.
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>we should have abortions, gee, do I wish I was aborted :(
LMFAO. You stupid niggas. If you wanna be aborted so badly just kys. Oh wait, you literally prefer being alive. You choose life Every. Day.
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To females:

I never want kids. Is this going to affect my dating chances. 2) will a childfree woman change her mind once she gets older? Is it common for women to not want children these days?

Most of the women I've been with are either neutral on kids or don't want them so it seems pretty normal at least where I live. But I'm also only 23.
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>>25359898
>>I really think my parents should have just aborted me with the way the world works
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>>we should have abortions, gee, do I wish I was aborted :(
>LMFAO. You stupid niggas. If you wanna be aborted so badly just kys. Oh wait, you literally prefer being alive. You choose life Every. Day.
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Women, how many chuds have you met in real life?
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I want to say thanks to reddit for the updoots.
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Everyone in this shitty abortion debate should have been aborted Jesus Christ
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>>25359674

I'm pro choice as fuck and I'm a guy. I honestly just never saw a fetus as a human. My ex even had an abortion and I never felt bad about it and still don't.

It's just a bunch of fetal tissue and I wouldn't want to bring a kid into the world I didn't want.
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>>25359922
I have never genuinely met anyone like this of any political persuasion, no one actually thinks like this.

Getting rid of black people in America isn't going to suddenly launch my music career, but it WILL make the streets quite a bit safer.
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>>25359816
I'm so fucking sick of the eNiGhTeNeD CeNtRiSt meme. You even suggest that mabye there is more nuance to some thing than either of the extreme sides of somethink accept and people start throwing lame gotcha at you about how you're a retard that think we should murder half of all kittens or some shit.
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>>25359922
What is a chud
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>>25359932
It's because radicals are insecure and vocal. In reality most people don't care, and of those that care few actually want to have nuance beyond their in group. Who wants to be the liberal who thinks we should have open carry? Or the conservative who says hey, maybe we ought to have a better safety net and education system.
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>>25359930
lucky
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>>25359932
All centrists are losers with no drive to actually change anything. Point a gun at their heads and they'll believe whatever you tell them. That's why we don't like you.
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I quit being friends with this guy because he was an all around narcissistic, obnoxious, annoying asshole. He claimed to not be attracted to me after I asked him why he constantly flirts and does other obnoxious things around me but when I told him we couldn't be friends anymore he got outraged. He started personally attacking me and got very argumentative. Is it normal for people to get this upset over a friendship being ended like this when they claim to not be attracted to the person?
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>>25359950
Nah, that's your retarded strawman. Centricism is having various ideas which can't be described by something as simple as left or right.
What you're describing is somebody who is apolitical, not centrist (retard).
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>>25359955
It's normal for guys, yeah. They want you to stick around as a passive target for flirting, and get enraged when you tell them it's over.
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>>25359768
I hate it because really all that should matter is whether you consider a foetuses life to have value or not. If you imagine a hypothetical scenario where a fully grown person would die if a woman didn't exist in a pregnancy like state for 9 months I think almost everyone would agree that it would be fucked up for her to not put up with that and instead just killed the person. Mabye some people would be fine with that and do genuinely believe people should have absolute freedom over themselves to that extent that they should be able to kill someone else exercising that freedom but I have a feeling that the vast majority of people wouldn't and would be happy to say she has an obligation to endure it so the person could live. So any this shit about bodily autonomy and womens rights is just a bunch of bullshit people make up to make the other side look evil and mak themselves feel even more righteous. All that should matter is whether the foetus desrves to be treated like a person.
I also despise the terminolgy used. "pro-life" and "pro-choice" are some of the must bullshit emitionallt manipulative terms I have come across. "We're the good guys, we are in favout of life", "those other guys are bad, they hate been able to make decisions for yourself. No one uses that phrasing for anything thing else. If you are in favour of gay marriage you just say you are pro gay marriage, you don;t feel the need to make some bullshit term to specify that you only mean people that want it and aren't going to force gay marriages on people. Just be honest and say that you are either "antiabortion" or "pro-abortion".
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How do I deal with not being likeable?
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>>25359911
These people are retarded. They could literally kill themselves any day if they actually thought life was so awful. People off themselves every day when they actually cannot take it. But these clowns never do. They know that no matter how much they hate themselves and their lives, they'd still rather be alive.
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>>25359965
Yep. It's just a disagreement over the definition of a human. Everything else is fluff. If you go off the deep end, you start screaming about stuff like puberty blockers.
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>>25359955
Narcs and the like do this. In general people shouldn't be offended by a friendship ending. At least when it's obvious it isnt working.
He treated you like shit and you said "Okay, I'm done", to which he said "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" and sperged out.

You'll be proud of yourself for getting away from him, but do be careful when he tries to draw you in again. He will try by the way, his ego can't handle not having you under him.
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>>25359970
Suck it up and learn to like it.
Alternatively you can squirm around and bend until you break trying to please people
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>>25359944
>It's because radicals are insecure and vocal. In reality most people don't care, and of those that care few actually want to have nuance beyond their in group.
Kek, quite right. If you only went by online political arguments you would think everyone in the world was either a communist or a neo-nazi and which of those two was correct was the big question everyone needed an opinion on.
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>>25359730
Just talk dirty to me. I'll be a good boy
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>>25359970
Why are you unlikable? Do you actually have character flaws that make you insufferable? If you do, you should stop being human trash for the sake of not being human trash.
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>>25359950
>Point a gun at their heads and they'll believe whatever you tell them
That applies to almost everyone retard.
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>>25359987
He probably imagines himself grabbing the gun like he's the hero in an action movie.
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>>25359992
Hes a super duper alpha male.
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>>25359986
I honestly don't know what I am doing wrong. I'm always nice and friendly. I am not a mean person at all and have never been a bully. It's literally to the point where I barely talk anymore and don't go out because I can't deal with facing people anymore and being called names, insulted, or gossiped about. Even when I literally don't do or say anything people still find something to hate me for.
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>>25359902
I don't eat meat so I just eat lots of dinner rolls...
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>>25359998
Oh! Then you probably are not unlikable. You just realized the world is full of human trash! Jesus was literally tortured to death, and the crowd cheered for it.
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>>25359998
I think if it’s a serial problem, you might be doing something wrong without even realizing it.
Are you overly polite to the point where it looks fake? What kinds of things do they gossip about? Give an example of some of the insults.
What kinds of people are they?
Need more context. Could be any number of things.
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>>25360008
I've had people say to my face "No one likes you" or "This is why no one likes you" or "No one likes her" in reference to me since I was in 4th grade.
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So if im average male, my options are to get rich and work hard for success, so i can eventually find a girl who had been ran through by badboys who didnt treat her right?

Isnt that kinda pathetic?
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>>25359965
>Mabye some people would be fine with that and do genuinely believe people should have absolute freedom over themselves to that extent that they should be able to kill someone else exercising that freedom
Pregnancies are potentially deadly, particularly if you have preexisting conditions. So this basically becomes the self-defense question.

In the hypothetical situation where Kyle just gets beaten a bit and recovers in a few weeks, wouldn't that be better than him shooting 3 people, killing 1? No, because not only have these people contributed negatively to society, they posed a lethal risk to him, and he took the sensible actions given the circumstances. But he didn't know they had contributed negatively to society, so if that's the consideration, is it relevant? Also no, because the mere fact that his life was potentially in danger was enough. We allow this, why not abortion?

The problem with the abortion question always ends up being that it should not be about "Are you forced to be a parent", but should be about "What do we do with the child?", and the answer should be that the child should be taken care of, and if the parent doesn't want to, someone else should. Either set up a good system, expand and properly fund orphanages and make adoptions easier, and then the entire issue becomes a moot point. Just ban abortions and let people drop off their kids. Problem solved. Instead people would rather argue about whether to abort or not, which is not the actual issue.

And yeah, this is an abortion question through and through, the propaganda just really worked the magic here with the "pro-life" and "Pro-choice" bullshit.
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>>25360011
Do you have or do you suspect to have autism? Unironic question.
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>>25360012
Those aren't the only options. You can always go abroad once you become financially successful and find a much younger pretty lady
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>>25360012
It is of you think that’s the life of every female
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>>25360012
No, that's what quitters tell themselves so they have an excuse not to try.
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>>25360012
Or you could stop being average, get in shape, get a good job, and become interesting. It's not easy but it is simple. It's not supposed to be easy.
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Feel like a retard struggling with a basic fucking geometry puzzle. This shouldn't be difficult for me.
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>>25360011
Yep, yep! Do they actually have a real reason or is it just shit talking? You see, being a good person is not something you do because it makes you popular and loved.
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My mother in law can be so annoying... I am trying to have sex with your daughter. Do you fuckin' mind? Second time in a row she interrupted us. This time I didn't stop until I came though.
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>>25360012
Become a thinker. Read some books. Girls get majorly wet for partisans and theory readers. Your girl should get wet after you call for a global proletariat revolution or start talking about taoism.
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Question to females, is getting closer to a guy you like a form of approach?
I noticed at clubs, whenever a girl starts dancing next to me and I start dancing with her, shes down.
It makes sense but I just realized this now, might start to approach only girls that gets close to me not to waste time
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>>25360010
Idk my mom tells me that people who don't know me would assume that I'm arrogant(I guess it's my face or something).

I've been called ugly, a whore, slut, stupid, ditzy, bitchy, etc. I've had people twist my words and insult me in front of entire groups of people over things I didn't even say. People(mostly other girls) have lied and said I did or said things I didn't do just to start a weird rumor about me. I've had people throw trash at me or shove trash into my school bag. Even m female teachers absolutely despised me in 4th and 5th grade and were convinced that they had some weird feud with me. It was the worst around 8th and 9th grade and halfway through 10th grade where I couldn't even walk into a classroom without the "popular" girls immediately staring me down and deciding that they hate me without having ever met me. It got significantly better when I was around 16 and males in particular were way nicer to me but the girls still never accepted me.

The worst would be when two girls I had literally never met or spoken to made posts about me on facebook saying that they hope my personal issues eat me alive and that they hope everyone I have in my life leaves me so that I would be all alone. That actually still stings to this day.
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>>25359987
Many radicals at least try to die with dignity. Most centrists don't even believe their own bullshit.
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>>25360016
I don't think so.
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>>25360051
>Become a thinker. Read some books.
If he takes this approach he should go with maths and physics. Mabye another physical science.
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>>25360056
Hold up... Are you attractive? Attractive girls get bullied pretty ruthlessly especially by ugly girls and boys.
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>>25360052
Yep, if I get closer, it means I trust you on some level.
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>>25360042
Idk I don't think I have ever done anything to warrant any of those responses. Like I literally kept to myself and people still found weird reasons to beef with me.
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Girls:

im tall, muscular, and dom but I secretly I want to be a switch and worship a girl and get smoothered... and maybe get my ass played with. Most girls would be disgusted right? Should i just keep this to myself?
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Since nobody replied I'll post it again:

To females:

I never want kids. Is this going to affect my dating chances. 2) will a childfree woman change her mind once she gets older? Is it common for women to not want children these days?

Most of the women I've been with are either neutral on kids or don't want them so it seems pretty normal at least where I live. But I'm also only 23. I'm decently attractive
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>>25360079
>I secretly I want to be a switch and worship a girl and get smoothered... and maybe get my ass played with. Most girls would be disgusted right?
Yes, that is pretty gross. No normal girl will want to do this.
Stop watching porn.
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>>25360080
>cHiLdFrEe male
>age 23.
Grow up.
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>>25360069
There were girls way prettier than me who were popular and liked by everyone so even if I was attractive I doubt that would be the case.
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>>25360056
>>25360069
This.
Sounds like a bad case of envy possibly mixed with an unfortunate way of carrying yourself.
You’re probably really pretty and carry yourself confidently if I had to guess. It honestly sounds like you just got unlucky and were the target of bullies. Once the target is painted on you, it can be hard to escape.

I think starting over with some entirely different people could be good for you. You sound lovely
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>>25360077
Sounds like you're one of those pretty girls who is also a loner. They get ruthlessly pecked by the hens so your place is established. Embrace lone wolf life, find a hot guy who can be your future husband and stick with him.
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>>25360082
which parts? A girl will never like anything submissive in a guy?
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>>25360088
Honestly I think you were just an easy target and likely are obviously intelligent by the way you carry yourself. I don’t know you, so I am making some assumptions, but it does not sound like a you problem
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>>25359472
I’m usually a chronic hornyposter who loves humiliating sex stories, BUT today I’m going to refrain as well.

Women, what’s your favorite aspects of Fall?
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>>25360088
That doesn't matter. You are a pretty girl, BUT, you are also not established in a social group. You are a danger to the popular girls status as you are a direct threat to suck up attention. My wife is like that, so is another girl I know, it's unfortunate but it's also just how people are. They let their jealousy and envy rule them.
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>>25360102
Pretty leaf
Wind feel nice
Pumpkin spice
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>>25360080
It won't affect your dating chances, but it might affect your marriage chances.
I think a lot of women do change their minds. I've never wanted kids and don't expect to.
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>>25360019
To be treated like a walking ATM? No thanks
>>25360027
Ive been trying hard for past 5 years
>>25360033
I lift, i study, i earn decent money, i dont smoke or do drugs.
Maybe thats my issue. Im too boring for normal girls.

Even with all the self improvement, i will still be at most average because im igly as shit
>>25360051
Doubt this works
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>>25360120
>too boring
do you have any hobbies you can share with them?
>ugly as shit
literal ogres find love stop making excuses
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>>25360102
Cooling temperatures. Beautiful colors. Halloween. My birthday. I get to wear coats and boots!
And best of all, every day is closer to winter.
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Women, what are your favorite scents on a guy? I’m talking general scents, not cologne brands.
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>>25360120
>To be treated like a walking ATM? No thanks
Why do you jump to a scenario where you get nothing of value from the woman? Do you value women?
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>>25360135
Cool. BTW, are you the Princesssnon? The one who dresses as a Disney Princess?
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>>25360119
Are you attractive? Do you find it easy to find guys who don't want kids? How long does it take to come up? Have you ever had an abortion? Do most of your friends also not want them? How do you parents feel if you don't have kids?
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Guys, how would you feel about having a kiss mark on your cheeks left by a friend/lover/potential love interest? Embarrassed? Proud? Annoyed?
I do this sometimes with my boyfriend, I find it fun to let him walk and have people look at him and see it, kind of feels like I'm saying "he's mine!". He said he's fine with it but I was curious about what other guys might have to say about it
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Do girls get jealous when guys they rejected get gfs?
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Girls, have you ever gotten back with an ex after a year+?
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>>25360066
Get educated. Resist fascists. Women love a man who has passionate sex after driving porky's head onto a pike.
Nothing is hotter than deciding to go against the patriarchical capitalist feudalistic new world order and deciding to be your own man.
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>>25360157
sounds annoying
I'd rather she just hold my arm if she wanted to act like she is claiming me
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>>25360089
Thanks anon :)

I’ve actually found it much easier to interact w/ people way more at work and in college. I just feel like I missed out by not having a group of friends during my school years. It also did a lot of damage to my self esteem which I’m still trying to fix now. Sometimes when I’m with someone i constantly ask myself if they actually like my company or if they’re only putting up with me to be nice.
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>>25360146
Yep. Was it that obvious?
I just love winter the most.
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>>25360091
Thanks anon:)
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>>25360174
A bit. And liking winter is fine.
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https://thepointmag.com/criticism/was-socialism-sexy/
>Eighty percent of women living in communist East Germany always reached orgasm during sex, according to the Hamburg magazineNeue Revuein 1990. For West German women that figure was only 63 percent. Those counterintuitive findings confirmed two earlier studies, which East German sex researchers had published in 1984 and 1988. Those had found East German women reported high levels of sexual satisfaction outpacing those in the West.

>The 1984 study’s authors contended socialism was to thank for women’s enjoyment of sex, specifically “the sense of social security, equal educational and professional responsibilities, equal rights and possibilities for participating in and determining the life of society.” In short, they claimed, women had better sex under socialism than under capitalism because socialism treated women better.

Chuds need not apply, beating women and treating them like shit does not get them wet. What gets them wet is beating up sexism and passionately impregnating them while calling them sexy. Saying you'll fight for world revolution every waking second.
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>>25360182
if you are starving and your best option to survive is to fuck like your life depends on it I imagine you are going to get good at it
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>>25360149
I think I'm fairly attractive. Enough to have a steady boyfriend, at least. In my experience, few guys my age want kids (I'm in my late 20's) so it hasn't been an issue. I'm usually the one to bring it up early on, because I fear it will be a dealbreaker, but it rarely is.
No abortions here, and I'd say it's about 50/50 of my friends want kids. My parents already have grandkids from my sister, so I'm basically off the hook, haha.
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>>25360095
Thanks anon :)
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>>25360104
The summer between freshman and sophomore year I was talked about pretty negatively among the group of “popular” girls and when I came back to school when summer had ended I remember being treated like enemy number one by that whole group of people. Honestly wondered for years what I had done wrong but it’s probably just like you said.
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>>25360182
I think it’s less to do with the beating and more to do with regard for the women’s needs during sex. A lot of women absolutely do get off on violence and rape but for most of them they don’t want to just be beaten, they want to be satisfied themselves.
I can imagine in societies with more regard for gender equality they probably care more about getting the woman off as well.
I want world evolution and to be beaten god damn it.
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>>25360194
Something similar happened to me. I consider it a compliment... I was so attractive that they had to preemptively sabotage my reputation. Joke's on them though, I still managed to get a bf.
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why do attractive women post here?
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>>25360189

Thanks for your input
I'm 23 and almost none of my friend circle wants them but ofc we might change our mind.
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>>25360182
Studies like this are pointless because it's all he said she said and no actual science is done. Someone actually paid for such a worthless thing, Christ.
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>>25360206
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>>25360080
>Is this going to affect my dating chances.
Probably, if you consider dating 'serious dating'. If you're dating with no intentions of it going further than just a fling, no.

>will a childfree woman change her mind once she gets older
Maybe, maybe not. Some women never do.

>Is it common for women to not want children these days
Yeah, I think so. Pregnancy is really scary and giving birth can be traumatic, and I don't think most people earn enough to not have to take a massive quality of life drop if they have kids.
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>>25360159
yea i think so, unless you are waaaaay out of her league. women are dumb. if someone else likes smth they are suddenly interested
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>>25360206
They mostly don't. I can't think of a single femanon who obsessively posts here that is attractive. They are fat and crazy.
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>>25360213
you arent attractive
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>>25360159
I don't. If I reject a guy it's because I'm not attracted to him, I don't care who he dates.
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>>25360225
I wasn’t saying I was. I was answering the question. What you think about my appearance is irrelevant and I doubt you’ve seen it.
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>>25360225
Kek. Fr. The pretty femanons come here for a little while and then leave this place after realizing it's just incels and cat ladies. We cannot blame them.
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>>25360182
Based.
Chuds will tell you women can't orgasm and that it's a myth KEK.
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>>25360206
i have autism ^-^
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>>25360227
You're a fat fuck cutter. You're hideous.
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Femanons would one of you please be my first time GF?
I'll send you a bouquet of roses and chocolates for Christmas if you'll allow me
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>>25360206
I was pretty uggo when I came to 4chan 10+ years ago. Since then, I've gotten a lot hotter, but 4chan will always be my home.
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Men, how do you prefer a girl dresses?
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>>25360227
i have a spycam activated right now on your computer, you look messy
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>>25360238
Modestly
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>>25360079
It's ok to want the girl to be in charge once in a while, but maybe leave the details up to her
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>>25360238
bows and ribbons in hair and sundresses
if my GF wears sweats or yoga pants I get too horny so for most purposes I like something cutesy so I can focus
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>>25360238
dunno, but i dont like the yoga pants look
i love long cardigans and other cute stuff
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>>25360159
No, I just pity their gf for dating trash.

>>25360162
Nope.
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>>25360225
>>25360234
I never claim one way or the other about my appearance by the way. I’m 130lb currently so I’m a bit overweight and I literally have a neck beard. I have to shave a neck beard and unibrow. I’m not conveniently attractive and have never claimed otherwise.
>>25360239
Based
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>>25360238
i like and notice cool style
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>>25360238
Tight sweaters and turtlenecks please
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>>25360253
Eww.
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>>25360253
awful
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>>25360253
then dont answers questions adressed to attractive girls
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>>25360260
OwO
Fear me
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>>25360259
That’s what I’m wearing now.
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>>25360253
Are you actually a girl? I've heard of women that get hair on the upper lip but not the neck.
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>>25360264
The question was why do they post here. I answered the way I did because the only way they would is mostly because of isolation.
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>>25360268
There is no fear, just disgust. I don't fear garbage cans, just think they are for trash and gross to touch.
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>>25360271
Prove it
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>>25360272
Yes. I have wondered if I have a hormone issue but I am a biological female.
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>>25360235
Do you know your blood type? I only date O-negative guys.
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>>25360272
She is fat, so definitely hormone issues as a result.
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>>25360137
Fresh sweat.

Part of the appeal in going to the gym.
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>>25360137
Oh, I missed this question. Seconding sweat and adding sawdust.
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>How does your boyfriend/partner add value to your life?
Recently my relationship has suffered, communication has broken down recently.

My partner feels recently (last 2 months or so), she's not been getting much value out of it. I want to show her that I am willing to put the effort and time in, but she never wants to do anything other than the same three things we always do when we hang out.

Dinner and a box of chocolates won't fix this.
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>>25360285
She's only 130 that is only fat is you are like 4'10"
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>>25359451
Femanons.
Weird question but maybe you can help me out.
I have a little niece, about 5 years old. When she sees me she comes up to hug me, wants me to throw her around and play and tickle fight her. We play games and it's all good. But when she watches TV she suddenly doesn't want me around anymore. When I ask her she says she wants to watch alone. I don't understand why. I just want to sit there and not annoy her and just watch Pokemon with her but when I sit down with her she yells that I have to go and starts to play fight with me to get me out. Kind of makes me feel bad like she doesn't want me around?
Maybe I traumatised her in some way that she doesn't want me around when she's watching TV but I don't know how that could happen..It's not like she doesn't trust me, she comes up to my room to get me to come play a game with her so she's obviously very comfortable being alone with me and with me hanging around her. Hell she initiates most of the play fighting. So what gives.
Maybe some girl here has an idea what's up
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>>25360284
nta but how attractive is a romantic o+ guy?
i regularly get pounded by big thick needles which SUCK my blood out of me, and then POUND it back in, before SUCKING it back up like a naughty dirty whore, achieving a double red donation.

then i get home and masturbate while looking at my deep pale skin and my weakened body, ripe for the taking by some alpha female nurse
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>>25360306
That's her low-ball estimate. Tell her to step on a scale and it's probably closer to 150.
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Any femanons read r/femaledatingstrategy? I'm curious how realistic that is for irl grills
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What fashion do femanons like on men?
Like, what kind of outfit could he be wearing that would make you think he's stylish/sexy/hot?
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>>25360313
DO NOT go there.
No woman who frequents there will ever find long term love.
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>>25360245
ew
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>>25360248
If my girl was to wear a sundress I'd rip it apart in a heartbeat and have my way with her. Untie that ribbon and tie it around her neck just to show my dominance (not choking her). Hng girls in cute dresses or skirts make me all sorts of hard.
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>>25360306
eh, I'm 165cm, and 130lbs would put my BMI at 22. It's in the high end, but it is definitely not enough to cause health issues, that's for sure.
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>>25360313
all the girls who post there are over 40 or a nigger
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>>25360322
I lurk it just for my daily blackpill so I don't get any bright ideas like getting into a relationship.
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>>25360312
I was 150 a few months ago. I’ve moved, changed my diet, gotten a job, started skincare, studied fashion a bit.
I weigh weekly and am now in 130.
It takes a lot of work for me, and I am willing to admit I am not conventionally attractive.
I’m 5’4 so I’m not morbidly obese or anything.
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>>25360307
I kinda feel weird when people watch things over my shoulder, but I don't kick people out, and 5 is quite early to be feeling that way...
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>>25360313
I only see it on rare occasions scrolling Reddit, not as edgy and desperate as people here want it. 90% of the time it’s just half decent obvious red flag dating tips. Pretty boring stuff
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>>25360311
Very hot. I'm going to suck you dry.
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Girls

is it advisable for guys to avoid women who have high partner counts?
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>>25360321
I don't know what it's called, but I like how Q dresses in the 007 movies. They made that character gay just to torture me.
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>>25360313
I spent a few days there.
>Day 1: Oh wow, I had no idea this was how it was to date, I'm so glad I haven't bothered with dating until now
>Day 2: This all sounds too negative to me. I don't think I can use this
I then stopped actively browsing there, and just got them as part of my recommended things because I was part of the subreddit
>Day 3: Okay this is starting to just outright sound like incel talk. Is that what this is? Female incels?
>Day 4: Nope, way too negative, way too unrealistic and blackpilled, not going to read any more of this for the sake of my sanity
Even just my current very limited experience with dating has told me this is incredibly unrealistic and unlike real life.
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>>25360336
honestly you sound like a sweet person, respect to you, that you can admit shit (wether its true or not doesnt matter), its rare, especially for a woman
wouldnt have thought that someone with a namefag of C. B. (o・ω・o) isnt a immature retard
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>>25360302
Didn't you ask about this a few days ago? I remember "adding value" being an issue that was raised. As I recall the consensus was get the fuck out of that relationship.
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>>25360336
All you have to do is not stuff your face and pluck/shave some ugly hair. How is that a lot of work?
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>>25360174
Nobody wanted to rent-a-princess on Thanksgiving?
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>>25360350
I think I’m generally ok although I have my batshit insane moments. I’m working on myself in isolation at the moment. I just want to be someone I can be proud of.
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>be me
>beta child
>beta for most of my teens
>become angry young man
>kind of cool for once in my life
>grumpy and aggressive loose cannon
>mellow with age
>beta again

How to become cool again
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>>25360350
Iirc they are a mentally ill bpd cutter who constantly abused theyr bfs, don't fall for the sweet act. It's literally a facade for attention.
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>>25360360
im proud of you
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>>25360344
If they don’t like it, sure
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>>25360354
Even just a few months ago I had no idea about even basic hygiene and hadn’t left my house in months.
I have literal autism. It takes effort whether you want to believe that or not
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>>25360367
that’s it?
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>>25360370
If it takes effort for you to function on a basic level that's bretty damn pathetic
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>>25360337
Yeah the harsh reaction makes me think I wronged her somehow but maybe I'm just thinking about this as an adult. I don't think it has anything to do with what an adult would think when a kid doesn't want to be alone in a room with an adult (again may be just my sexualised adult male brain but if some a girl child says she doesn't want to be in a room with a specific adult male it makes you think). Now I'm thinking about it, the other adults just let her sit in that room by herself watching TV and never join her. Maybe it has nothing to do with me at all and just with her wanting to not be bothered by some grown up.
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>>25360358
I'm sure somebody out there did, but thankfully (lol) we're not doing business for a few days.
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>>25360335
please don't. good men and women exist.
the internet is a horrible place if you have any sensitivities.

maybe you don't see them as much because they hide, or covid has them mentally off balance.
i'm hardly the best guy out there but if you're as internet poisoned as i think you are maybe it'll restore some sense to you if i talk briefly:
>taking care of somebody mentally disabled/scarred at my house
>held off on college to help my parents get their finances in order
>read literature for fun
>enjoy philosophy and other academic interests
>strong bonds with friends
>helped friends through depression and transitioning to the other sex, as well as other rough things
>donate blood as often as i can
>hit on by women but reject their advances unless i feel like i actually want to do more than sex with them
>living for an eventual daughter someday, want to show her how she should be treated by showing my love for her mother often

like i'm not perfect, and obviously there's more to me than this, but i'm not some unicorn for any of the above. you'll probably find someone who'll make you very happy someday as long as you keep working on yourself.
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This question is for guys
If a girl knitted or crocheted you a hat as a gift, would you like it or just pretend to like it to be polite?
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Any Asian guys here?

I thought you were more quiet. I'm talking to someone who moved abroad to my country just a few months ago, and he keeps laughing like a hyena every time I say anything even remotely humourous. Is this really normal?
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>>25360378
Good. Stay far away. I don’t associate with your kind. Don’t talk to me unless you’re insane and/or barely holding it together
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>>25360379
Ah yeah, then she most likely associates TV with privacy. It's just that simple. Kind of sad, but her brain is wired this way already, so there's nothing you can do.
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Either gender (please state which), what are you thankful for today? No meme responses please.
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>>25360387
If it fit me and wasn't hot pink or something, I'd happily wear it
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>>25360387
I'd wear it I have bought those before
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>>25360391
you are lovely ^^
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>>25360401
BRAAAAAAAAAPS
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>>25360401
>Either gender (please state which), what are you thankful for today?
F, and my friends. They have been amazing, and I while we don't really have Thanksgiving or anything else today, I still genuinely love them. They have been an amazing pillar in my life lately. Both the few IRL friends I have, but also the online ones. They have done a lot more than they think.
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>>25360385
>restore some sense to you
>helped friends transitioning to the other sex
lol
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>>25360401
F
I’m thankful for every day my old grandpa cat stays healthy and strong. He’s over 18 years old and has barely slowed down.
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>>25360425
his secret of old age is that he drinks your pussy juice while you sleep
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>>25360424
chud detected

it's hardly ideal for anyone to transition. if you lack the sympathy or confidence to help them try to find happiness you're just asking for a sad life.
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>>25360391
If you only hang out with insane losers you'll always be an insane loser yourself.
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>>25360436
>He says while hanging out on 4chan
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>>25360417
Is the photoshop supposed to be bad is that the joke here?
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>>25360430
If that’s what it takes, so be it.
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>>25360438
4chan is too mixed bag these days for generalizations. This used to make sense when it was underground and everyone didn't own a phone.
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>>25360401
Male
I’m glad I’m allowed to live >rent free at my parents’ house while I attend school to save money.
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>>25360444
what? back in the day not everyone was a loser. but most everybody was a white college aged kid.
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>>25360441
i cant see anything maybe im just bad at spotting photoshop
probably distracted too much by vagene and popa
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>>25360436
I like being an insane loser. I want to be insulated from normies and break off from society. I can achieve both this, and self improvement. I think the right kind of insanity is superior to the masses. Genius is a mix of intelligence and insanity
I am not claiming to be a genius btw. I think I’m pretty average, but I prefer “insane losers” of any of you fuckwads any day.
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sometimes im thinking about asking a girl out, but im so demoralised as a male, that i immediatelly think all attractive girls have a bf anyways (which isnt far from true, i think), and then dont do it.
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everyone

I've been flirting with a female co-worker and we are going out this weekend. She is attractive and looks like a Aubrey Plaza. Which is great but also worries me a bit. I know that she's done casual sex, and probably a lot of it. I've never dated a girl who has a history. I'm worried about loyalty. How do I know I won't just be her next number?
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>>25360456
>Didn't even quote the right post
Definitely a shop though, I have no idea what to normally look for, but anyone who has seen a window frame in real life know they usually aren't wavy. It's so bad you can even see it in the thumbnail
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>>25360461
>but I prefer “insane losers” of any of you fuckwads any day
Then why are you here? ATOGA is one of the most normie areas on 4chan and you're obsessed with it.
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>>25360471
kek
boba for u
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>>25360479
Because it’s fun. Simple as.
All I have to do is respond with a retarded spongebob meme and I make people seethe
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>>25360467
Wouldn’t you rather find out for sure? Think of it as taking a census every time you ask, one cutie at a time.
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>>25360470
You don’t know for sure. But even if you are, it’s worth it to date an Aubrey Plaza lookalike for even a short time.
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>>25360492
gotten the i have a gf a bit too much, i think
i probably really have a feeling if a girl has a bf
but ok maybe im stereotyping
like today in the grocery store i saw a girl which looked kinda rich and unbothered, i was interested but i thought nah she probably just say no i have a bf.. she wore a long coat of some rich brand i think, single girls probably wont wear such stuff
i mean this logic seems retarded but whatever
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>>25360470
>I've been flirting with a female co-worker
not a good idea m8
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>>25360486
So you enjoy the company of normies more? Great. We are in agreement that insane losers are not good company, no matter where you are.
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>>25359451
Do men sometimes over exaggerate how painful a hit to the balls really is? I've seen some guys get hit by the lightest stuff and start rolling on the ground. Fair enough if you get kicked, hit or whatever with decent force behind it but this?
https://youtu.be/5FbClIjC9II?t=40

Seems like he's just over reacting, I really don't see how the pain can be so bad that he's on the ground. My guy accidentally gets light taps here and there and it hurts him but he doesn't do this. I've never seen him on the ground from any groin injuries.
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>>25360511
>ban evading retard larps as oldfag
kek
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>>25360375
Yeah, why would it need to be more complicated than that
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>>25360517
EMG tests have shown a similar pain exposure from a hard ball impact to childbirth pains. Obviously it isn't comparable because it is instantaneous not prolonged over hours but it hurts pretty bad.
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>>25360509
I think I understand. But you’d be surprised that some really beautiful girls can be single.
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>>25360517
No… it just really, really hurts…
What’s with this idea that men have no emotions? If anything we learn to compartmentalize when the external world fails, time and time again to provide solace.

>Does it really hurt when men get shot? Idk I think they’re exaggerating because in movies men could take bullets.
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>>25360516
Nah. When it comes to personal interaction I prefer insane losers.
I don’t talk to normies irl.
I just like this place because I can be insane and laugh at the reaction while occasionally giving advice and trying to help when I have something to say.
This is like my little sandbox to watch reactions. You’re like insects to me and I like to watch you writhe
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>>25360517
what does your bf do that he regularly gets hit in the balls?
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>>25359476
Doesn't matter sight-wise but I don't want a mouth full of hair. I'd prefer the guy to do what's comfortable for him. The only thing I'd dislike is if it was groomed with too much care or detail. Keeping it short or shaved is fine but making sure the sides are straight and there are zig zags in it is over the top. I don't like guys who wear their head hair like that either.
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>>25360537
>But you’d be surprised that some really beautiful girls can be single.
Sometimes they’re just actually terrible people. Those beautiful ones can be very deceitful, serial cheaters, chronic ghosters, etc.
There’s always a very real reason why they’re single and it has nothing to do with men being insecure. She might just be an awful partner and unwilling to change.
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>>25360542
Also kek half of the thread is political insanity. Most of the people here are deadbeats with some normies in the mix.
All the best posters here are the schizo ones anyways.
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>>25360537
nah i judged more on her clothes lol, her coat screamed to be that she wants to be left alone
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>>25360395
that makes a lot of sense.
Guess next time I'll just force myself and sit next to her.
Gotta break that off while she's still young enough to form new connections. She deserves privacy that's not the point. She shouldn't however associate it with the TV.
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>>25360542
>This is like my little sandbox to watch reactions. You’re like insects to me and I like to watch you writhe
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>>25360542
Nah, you're obsessed with us because this is as close as you can get to normal functional, people. This is like the world you wish you could be apart of irl but can't because you are immediately repulsive to people. The attention is your fuel so you can feel alive again after experiencing the deadness of your life outside of it.
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>>25360549
>There’s always a very real reason why they’re single
maybe most men suck?
i feel like i'd be pretty tired of boring guys asking me out just for their own ego boost
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>>25360561
Based. <3
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>>25359474
I'd want to get to know you first. Getting asked out by a complete stranger or from some guy you've never spoken to is weird but if you make some connection first then it's fine. Just be genuine in your interactions. If you over plan, it's pretty obvious and not natural.
In my best, current and last relationship, we got along so well because we just acted natural together. There as little thought of what to do and when, we jut talked about hat mattered to us and hit it off quickly.
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Girls, when you post a sexy bikini picture, do you want guys to masturbate to it?
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>>25359451
I need you helps, asking M and F's, hell anyone

How do I keep feeling like I can find love, even if this fails?

A bit of backstory, 19 and kv, asked out around ~8 girls this year, nothing came from each of them. Ngl, been feeling pretty down in the dumps because of it, and I'm pretty backfilled now, especially being 5'5-5'6.

Normally when I meet a girl, or match with one on tinder, I get this gut feeling that
"oh anon, this will end up all the same, you won't be handsome enough, or cool enough, you definitely won't be tall enough"
And it makes dating this thing I hate, but if I want to find someone, it's what I have to do.

Well recently, like this week, I went back home from college, I was drawing in bed when I got a tinder notification, I matched with a girl I know irl. Her family and mine are family friends, we've seen each other in passing every now and then, but never hung out. Hell idk if she even remembers me as a family friend. But she thought I was cute enough to an extent I guess. While I was thrown off she uses tinder, I do too so that would be hypocritical, all her family (she has sisters) are literally the 'trad wife' type of people meme. Just healthy, good quality people, and hell she's very pretty.
And when we started talking I got this good feeling inside, for the first time in about a year I felt like
"damn anon, you're worthy of love, one day you will find someone who makes you feel good"

For the first time since like march I just had all that blackpill stuff just wash off of me. Had a bit of genuine hope for the first time in a long while.

Now here's the problem,
I'm only like 30% sure this will actually go anywhere. Now I've faced rejection before, I know I can survive that. But I don't want this feeling to go away, like 'damn, I have a chance out there'. How do I keep that, because just as I feel theres a chance something might come of this, I also feel like it's probably not going to go anywhere.
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>>25360566
Aren't you a fat ex-tranny who got fucked and dumped by the biggest loser of this board? If other people are insects then what are you? The shit that comes out of the insects ass? Or where exactly do you see yourself.
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>>25360565
Imagine deconstructing the natural desire for connection to an ego boost. I didn’t even say most women suck… boring guys? I can’t with you guys sometimes. This is such a loaded statement that says way more about your perspective.
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>>25360579
i am a guy though.
i know men well enough to know many really do chase.
i feel like at a certain point it would suck being asked out by men.
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>>25360577
Fuck, sorry for blogpost, I'll give reasons to why I feel like it won't happen.

>she's 5'9-5'11, I'm 5'5. I have no issue with her being taller, I'm actually into that, but idk if she'd be.

>she is very pretty, and while I'm muscular, I am not that handsome. I have a good strong face, but I am not considered pretty or handsome.

>she probably has loads of other guys who are taller and better looking

>she takes 4-5 hours to respond. This is the biggest fear, now it is the holidays, and we've only been talking like 1-2 days. But this is a worry.

I know I'm over thinking shit, I just know deep down that if I get rejected, this feeling of hope will go away, and I don't want that to happen.

And again sorry for blog post shit, I'm just nervous, and idk why, I'm not normally stressed out like this.
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>>25360578
She sent him cutting gore or something and he cut her off. She's a disaster and a disgrace.
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>>25360588
I mean yeah I thought something similar but WOMEN have told me different. Sometimes, WOMEN are okay with being approached in public because that’s what they wanted. Ideas like the ones your sharing are so demoralizing for younger men just looking to meet people.
I hate the chase because she just keeps running. I get no joy from it. If anything chasing a woman makes me think she’s not interested.
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>>25359662
He’s cool and mostly right.
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>>25360575
I expect them to, but all I WANT them to do is smash that like button.
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>>25360577
A girl asked me out this year and she kissed me. Another girl kind of randomly kissed me and we felt each other up.
Not going to read your shit, just wanted to let you know.
Accidentally did read your shit. Fuck it. Anon just bee yourself and try to build a stable loving relationship with her. Don't let her friendzone you.
Also stop depending on that feeling of being worthy just because you got some attention. It's seriously unhealthy because it doesn't come from yourself but from the attention you receive. Stop it now and learn to value yourself. Else you'll simp, she'll lose respect, she'll dump you, and then you'll be back to feeling like shit. Quit it now. Make yourself feel like you're worthy. If you can't, you're not worthy of her.
Just ask her out, a nice date and just having a laugh are all you need to start a relationship. Just take your time.
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>>25360577
>>25360592
>Well recently, like this week, I went back home from college, I was drawing in bed when I got a tinder notification, I matched with a girl I know irl.
Anon this is all you fucking needed to say. You matched a girl? TALK TO HER.

DO NOT BUILD HER UP IN YOUR MIND. You will wind up devastated if he doesn't work out.

Just fucking do it. Stop being a pussy. The longer you wait after a match the less likely you are to get a date.
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>>25360597
>OOH IM SUCH A TORMENTED SOUL LOOK AT ME SELF DESTRUCTING I AM SO QUIRKY AND TORMENTED
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>>25360592
I’m kind of jealous of shorter guys, having women 4+ inches taller than you must be incredible
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>>25360603
So you're not upset that your male friends masturbate to your pictures, but you don't enjoy it either?
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>>25359571
Whatever you want. I like guys who talk about their interests and ideas and also make an effort to get to know mine. It's a party so you should just try to have fun. Being fun will make people (women) want to be around you. If you don't like parties, don't get with women who do because you won't be compatible.
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>>25360592
>I'm 5'5
ignore everything I said. None of what I said goes for midgets. I'm 6'2.
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>>25360603
Kek why? We all know you don’t care about who likes the pic and if we wanted to fuck you, we’d need to approach irl. It’s such a lame scenario.
As soon as you fall for a thirst trap online, you lose.
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>>25360599
i'm talking about approaching for sex
yeah, it's not wrong to talk to people, but it's fucked to expect sex out of a relationship.
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>>25359821
Indeed. He’s proof that life is wasted on dullards.
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>>25360575
No. That's gross as fuck. And men who jerk off to random girls in bikini pictures or their female friends need to get shot in Minecraft.
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>>25360621
Sex is a natural part of any sexual relationship. Expecting it isn’t the problem. Using coercion, manipulation, and being highly upset when you don’t get it are the real problems. Sex is normal.
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>>25360612
Certainly not upset. I know I look good. It just has no effect on me. It’s the same as seeing me in person, then masturbating. It’s just a fact of life.
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>>25360624
You sound like you can't wear a bikini.
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>>25360578
Yes it is I.
I have chosen to view myself as raw data.
I am merely an outside observer who is awaiting my construction.
>>25360597
I sent him gore and he distanced but did not cut me off completely.
In the end he was saying he loved me and was making remarks about how I would be hot if I lost weight.
During this time, I had fallen for someone else. I call him Mr S.
It wasn’t supposed to be that way though, and he is too good for me.
He helped me realize a lot of things, and I found the strength to reject them all. The last straw was him confronting S in the threads and speaking on my behalf and still referring to me as his wife when we were supposed to be separated
After this, I blocked them all.
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>>25360625
No... I'm talking about being hit on constantly.
It's not normal, it's weird. Try to get to know people, figure out if they're in a relationship later, and then act on that information.
This weird shit where men try to impress or flatter a girl minding her own business is retarded.
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>>25359654
No, everyone in my friend group is in a long term relationship. My only friend is my boyfriend.
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>>25360630
I'm happy to hear you don't mind.
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>>25359898
>posting that pic
I thought you didn’t want babies aborted, anon.
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>>25360620
>you don’t care about who likes the pic
You’re right, I just like having high numbers. It’s fun to experiment with what gets the most likes.
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>>25360631
You sound like a triggered cumbrain.
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>>25359654
Yeah everyone in my circle of friends is married and either has kids or is expecting one. When the last one finally got his wife pregnant they started bugging me about getting a Russian mail order bride.

Joke's on them. I'm unemployed and can't afford a wife.

Sigh.
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>>25360635
Do namefags really
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>>25359677
Some people will hate you because you're pretty. Can't please some people and you should quit trying to make others like you. Be around those who like you for you.
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For males
Height?
Would you mind dating a girl who isn't shorter than you?
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>>25360635
How do you expect a man to fall in love with a woman who spreads her legs and gets fucked by random Internet dudes after a few weeks?
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>>25360646
Silence, fat.
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>>25360660
Make me, cumbrain.
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>>25360644
I think most women seek validation. I don't think it's experimentation as much as validation.
What has always appeared odd to me is how much women publicly praise their friend's bodies. It's like a mutual pat on the back for each other.
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>>25360638
>This weird shit where men try to impress or flatter a girl minding her own business is retarded.
This is literally how you meet people and display interest. I understand not taking no for an answer being an issue but you’re not talking about women who do the same thing.
Often times when I’m in public minding my own business, women come up to me and flirt with me. It always catches me off guard. Being pushy is wrong in any context, I agree.
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>>25360658
5'8", wouldn't mind at all. In fact I've usually preferred women my height or taller.
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>>25360658
I'm 5'10"

She would have to be a very exceptional girl for me to date her if she's taller.
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>>25360653
When they are psychotic and possessed by Satan, absolutely. Didn't help that she had to compete with women who were actually sexy and sane.
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>>25360624
Men have no boundaries. Boobs are boobs, whether they’re attached to their friends or not. I talked to a guy who was almost proud of it, like he was getting away with something.
Later, I realised he was probably telling me this because he got off to my pictures too.
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>>25360619
>ignore everything I said. None of what I said goes for midgets. I'm 6'2.
I know, genuine fear of mine with it

>>25360606
>DO NOT BUILD HER UP IN YOUR MIND. You will wind up devastated if he doesn't work out.
Trying not to, I normally do not, I can matches every now and then and don't build them up, but I've always had a bit of a crush on this girl.
I'm already trying to prepare if it doesn't work out.

>You matched a girl? TALK TO HER.
Trying to, she has a low snap score, which is a good sign, but she takes like 4-6 hours to respond. And the responses are like 1-2 sentences. We have only been talking a short bit of time tho. I'm overthinking things out of fear.

>ask her out
trying, but I don't have a car which makes it difficult. And idk if she's really interested.

>>25360610
>I’m kind of jealous of shorter guys, having women 4+ inches taller than you must be incredible
I honestly think it's hot. I prefer taller girls than shorter. Guys who go after primarily shorter girls because they need to feel stronger than them, imo, are weak. I've lifted for 3-4 years, the only women stronger than me are roiding, which I don't like. I'm not saying this to paint this picture that I think I'm big and strong, but point is, I don't feel insecure or uncomfortable about dating a much taller woman. However, I do know women don't like 5'5-5'6 guys. Especially taller ones, and idk if she knows I'm shorter than her.

I will try and talk to her and get something going, I'm only in town till sunday so I'll try to go out with her then. (we are both in hometown and go to separate colleges on other sides of the state)

If I get rejected, I get rejected, I just don't want to lose this feeling that I have, one where I have genuine hope about dating.

The past year it felt like God, the universe, whatever you want to call it has been teasing me. Like
"oh anon, heres a chance a cute girl might like you"
but when I approach they pull it away real quick
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>>25360658
I wouldn't mind too much but inflation is getting bad and taller girls cost more because they eat bigger meals
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>>25360658
6’1
I love tall women omg
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>>25360661
Sorry, the only thing I can make you do is scream and claw my back.
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>>25360665
No, I've been hit on too. I dislike it. Which is why I sympathize with a female version of me who's even more attractive.

Getting to know me though? Love that. Do it more. Zero wrong with trying to get to know people if you aren't pressuring them into romance/sex.
But it's weird to expect a well adjusted guy or girl to be down to fuck immediately after meeting you, IMO.
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>>25360663
Well, we know how much work goes into maintaining a good body, and for pulling off stylish clothes. I compliment my friends all the time.
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>>25360259
Something like this?
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>>25360674
>trying, but I don't have a car which makes it difficult. And idk if she's really interested.
You matched. That means her mind is open.
Literally just set up a coffee date. You have to meet the girl in person. The longer you avoid it the worse your outcome is going to be. In fact, the fact that you're trying to just talk with her is a really bad sign. You need to convert that match into a coffee date. This is the secret of dating apps: The longer it takes to convert the less likely it is to work.
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>>25360669
I think a girl being taller than 5’10” is exceptional by itself
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>>25360238
Love summer dresses, generally love clothes that accentuates how slim she is.
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>>25360658
'Girls' taller than me (5'4") don't get a chance with me.
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femanons, what the fuck is the deal with watching zit and black head videos?

I have a family member that must watch them endlessly. I feel like thats what is on their phone everytime I walk by, for hours.
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>>25360686
No, it's more than that. It doesn't matter the weight or clothing.
And I'll be honest and say it can be a redflag for men or women. It's weird to publicly compliment each other in your posts, like you need somebody else's public validation.
I mean, I compliment my friends all the time. But it's private. They don't need me cheering them on in their post comments.
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>>25360690
Ok, I will
there's only been like 9 messages/snaps between us, idk why I'm so fucking overthinking this stuff. I don't normally simp like this.

Next time she responds I'll ask if she wants to grab food Saturday.
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>>25360683
>But it's weird to expect a well adjusted guy or girl to be down to fuck immediately after meeting you, IMO.
Oh yeah no argument there. Getting to know people as they are is honestly the best way to get in anyone’s pants.
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>>25360674
Lots of girls just have Snapchat because they’re “supposed to” and dislike actually using it, so I wouldn’t be too worried.
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>>25360701
It’s just soothing, I can’t explain it. That “Dr. Pimple Popper” show sounds disgusting but I love it.
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>>25360659
If I never have a man again, so be it. I think S was right. Men will not satisfy me.
I want to live for me now.
I’m in the process of transforming into my own version of perfection. Gems start out rough.
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>>25359735
So your nephew can't be quite but they can go silent on you when you have a different opinion? Your family is abusing that poor boy and I think the best, immediate thing you can do is be there for him. Be his friend and person he can rely on for support when his own parents turn their backs on him.

There's not much you can do. You can suggest all the understandings they should have and possible problems with him but if they have their minds made up, they won't care. Kid just has to deal with it until he hopefully grows up, sees you all for your bullshit and never speaks to any of you again because you really don't deserve it. That's the best outcome for him with what he has.
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Hello
How was your holiday anons
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Women, what’s the most effective pickup line that’s been used on you?

A few notes before you answer: (1) Normie introductions don’t count, only lines designed to attract you. (2) If you haven’t ever experienced an effective line then don’t respond because this question isn’t for you. This is essentially post an effective line used on you or GTFO. (3) The line has to be have been used on you to success. It can’t be something used on a friend or someone you know, it has to be you.
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>>25360707
>I'll ask if she wants to grab food Saturday.
Good but I personally prefer doing coffee because it's even lower pressure (you need to overcome the psychological inertia inherent in going on a date to get from match to date). Coffee is just so fucking easy, the girl is probably gonna go get coffee anyway. Plus the opportunity cost of a midweek coffee date just feels so much less (Saturday dates are prime events and in her mind shouldn't be squandered).

My best gimmick was always to go from having an engaging conversation to asking for a coffee date with this segue: "Ah man, I need to go [do something]. I've enjoyed this conversation though. Let's continue this over coffee later." and set up the coffee date from there.

Not saying you must do it this way, just promoting my own way of thinking because it got me past the stupidity of overthinking.
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>>25360705
Ohh I see. Yeah that is a little strange. Though, the goal might be to get the ball rolling on her posts - guys don’t want to look thirsty by making the first comment, but if I compliment her first, then he can piggyback off my comment. Complex social interactions.
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>>25360701
No idea, it’s beyond disgusting
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Can't handle upsetting replies? Don't ask. You will be bullied out of this thread if you act salty.
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>>25360728
Implying faggots can bully me out of a thread.
OH NO NO NO I GOT MEAN REPLIES HELP MOMMY
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>>25360717
Soo... Another crazy cat lady in the making? Cool. Pretty poetic the last pure thing about you was taken away. Now there is literally nothing redeemable about you.
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>>25359753
>dating through tinder
Try Bumble. Worked well for me.
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>>25360731
>Implying faggots can bully me out of a thread.
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Women, how do attractive women bully less attractive women? I’ve seen some of this as a guy but women are better at non-verbal communication so I’ve probably missed some of the subtleties in female on female bullying.
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>>25359753
>Is it weird that I'm kind of off-put by this?
Nah that's pretty normal if you're not looking for quick sex.
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>>25360711
I agree, and her family are very outdoorsy, like off the grid types in more extreme parts of them. So I feel like thats a portion of it. And idc about waiting, my fear is she just immediately puts me into like a 'beta orbiter category thing'
Her snap score is less than 100k, and where I'm from at least, thats rare for most people.

>>25360725
Ok, I think I get what you mean. There's this like coffee/cafe place downtown, I'll ask if she wants to go Friday or Saturday then.
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>>25360736
If virginity is what you mean, they can take it. It means nothing in the grand scheme of things.
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>>25360747
>Ok, I think I get what you mean. There's this like coffee/cafe place downtown, I'll ask if she wants to go Friday or Saturday then.
Good luck anon, rooting for you to succeed.
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>>25360750
Cope. It means a lot when you throw out your first time like that. You have poor judgment and impulse control. In the grand scheme of things all your mistakes add up and create who you are.
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>>25360538
Has nothing to do with men having emotions. It just looks like a really light tap.
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>>25360544
Sportsball player maybe?
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>>25360758
Seethe. I had a cock slide between my legs once, big whoop.
I don't even regret it. Overall the experience was not a negative one for me.
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>>25360753
thank you friend
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>>25360669
Rip with some shoes on I would probably be the same height
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>>25360768
You see yourself as raw data, but all your data when observed is mistake after mistake, bad decision after bad decision. You are mentally broken, fat, ugly, abused people, let yourself be used, and you proudly embrace being a loser psycho. In the grand scheme of things, it's another piece of data to conclude you're garbage.
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>>25360740
>excluding her
>talking about her flaws in front of boys
>telling her crush gross things about her
>stealing her clothes while she’s in the shower/pool
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>>25360781
I'm raw data. It can be interpreted in any number of ways. The data itself is simply data. Moral and/or value judgements mean nothing to raw data. At the end of my life, the data will be observed by those left living and it will be up to time and those left behind how I'm interpreted overall.
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>>25360781
But you’re a smelly virgin, why would anyone care what you think? If no one IRL cares about you then why would randos on the Internet? You don’t really get anything out of either, other than thinking you won in an imaginary argument and getting attention from another person for once. Doesn’t seem like a good use of time.
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Girls, do you instantly lose attraction to a guy after he says caesar was wrong in the civil war and pompey was in the right?
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>>25360544
It's not regular, probably every one to two months at the most.
Sometimes if we're in bed and I'm moving for some reason, I'll accidentally place a limb in the wrong spot. I've tried getting comfortable while cuddling a few times and flailed my knee into the wrong spot. Other times I'm climbing over him (we share a king single against a wall) and get him while doing that. Doesn't happen anymore since we swapped sides.

If it's not me it can be his family dog who almost always manages to step on his balls when she sits on his lap or just any regular activity. Poor guy is in the walls but hasn't permanently damaged them considering it still works. It always makes me feel bad and I do try to protect them from getting hurt.
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>>25360724
When I was very young and naive, I had just bought some new skinny jeans and went to a coffee place known for meeting guys… one of them took me aside and whispered “I can tell those are new jeans, and they make your ass look incredible”. I immediately had a physical response, so I count that as effective. But I got scared and bolted. He gave me his number but I never used it.
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>>25360786
>telling her crush gross things about her
Such as? What do girls usually say about their targets?

>stealing her clothes while she’s in the shower/pool
This actually happens? Have you ever seen this happen to someone?
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>>25360740
Spreading rumors that she’s a lesbian. Sometimes that can backfire and make guys MORE interested in her, though.
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>>25360792
Nope. We can observe the raw data and we can categorize it based on the nature of it. And you have literally nothing of worth in your data. Just disaster and disappointment. People are alive right now and can see what you are. You don't need to be dead for their judgment of you to be accurate. You already know you're pure garbage though. Why act like this isn't an absolute fact?
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>>25360806
All right, a good response. Do you remember what the guy looked like?
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>>25360805
>Doesn't happen anymore since we swapped sides.
Was swapping sides his idea? Lol.
The dog is probably the worst of it, since they put their whole weight wherever they step. It hurts when a little cat does it to me, I can’t imagine a big dog…
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>>25360806
Known for meeting guys?
Huh.
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>>25360810
I imagine women would need to be more subtle with this nowadays, given her friends might think she’s homophobic.
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Girls,

Just met my ex two days straight after not seeing her for years. She readds my contact and texts me asking if i got home safe on the first night and offered a ride home the night after.

Both nights we texted for a few minutes but chat died once she went to bed (no goodnights, just straighy up ignored). Was she just being friendly? Im assuming she is, but now my brains running at full speed questioning myself whether or not to ask her out for lunch.
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>>25360812
Because it's not. I simply am. That's all there is to it. It's a simple concept, really. Enjoy your power trip anon.
After all, I'm just a tranny who got fucked by a rapist nazi. Pretty funny right?
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>>25360388
What are you? Maybe he just thinks your accent sounds retarded and loses his shit
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>>25360809
Like details about her period, or saying she has dandruff… some guys are scared away by that stuff because they think we’re perfect angels with no bodily functions
And yeah, I’ve seen clothes taken a few times, that’s why I always put a padlock on my locker…
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If a guy knows I'm on my period and he invited me over and said we can take a bath. Is he being nice or does he think we will have sex since the bleeding stops in water?
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>>25360840
always assume a man is thinking of something sexual when he is nice to you or generous.
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>>25360827
She seems pretty friendly to me. I imagine she’s feeling conflicted about reestablishing contact with you, resulting in behavior like “I’ll chat with him tonight… but I’m not saying goodnight!!”
I think there’s no harm in asking her to lunch. Do you know if she’s dating anyone now? Worst case scenario, you’ll be rebuffed and find out she is.
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>>25360831
You are who you are, and what you are absolutely sucks. Again, even you know this. If you died right now how would you be remembered? Vast majority of people here and in your life would be relieved and you'd be remembered as a gross psycho. What do you think of when you think of yourself? When you look at your own data? You definitely don't see yourself as a good person worth remembering. Why? Because you don't have enough data to conclude that.
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>>25360840
He might just be doing something nice. But be prepared to swat him away if he gets handsy.
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>>25360650
I remember the last place I worked there were three of us around the same age there, one was a step dad and the other's girlfriend was pregnant. People semi-jokingly asked me when I would have one. Felt kind of awkward as a virgin.
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>>25360823
I wonder if the new tactic is to tell guys that someone is actually a MTF? lol
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>>25360817
Like a skinnier, less attractive Zachary Quinto

>>25360822
Yeah, we (the girls in our class) kept track of locations where we get hit on the most, and that was a hot spot.
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>>25360840
I doubt he knows that water stops the bleeding, honestly, so it's probably genuine
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>>25360759
Light taps can really hurt, sometime more than a hard hits actually.
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>>25360823
>more subtle
No, it's more aggressive now. The new strategy is to kiss the less attractive girl in front of a crowd, and if she pushes you away, then SHE'S the homophobic one.
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>>25360401
F, my dinner turned out tasty as hell
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>>25360840
He still wants to fuck and doesn't care about the blood. Women assume guys are going to run from the room if they see stuff like period blood or pubic hair but that isn't the case.
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>>25360401
M
The gym, helps me out mentally and physically.
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>excluding her
>talking about her flaws in front of boys
>telling her crush gross things about her
>rumors that she’s a lesbian


Can confirm have had all these things done to me
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>>25360575
I don't post bikini pictures because of this, but no I absolutely would not want guys to masturbate to me.
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If bleeding stops in water, why don’t women just spend the whole week in a bathtub?
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>>25360235
>Offers chocolates
>Posts potato
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>>25360102
>I’m usually a chronic hornyposter who loves humiliating sex stories
Good
>BUT today I’m going to refrain as well
Why?
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>>25360877
bathtub get cold
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>>25360877
Uterus would explode or blood would start leaking
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>>25360849
I think in my personal life I would be remembered fondly. In the past I have been very self sacrificing to those who I'm close to and I'm quite good at being friendly with people.
Ask any of them, I'm a kindhearted intelligent young woman. This is the part of my dataset that has been presented to them.
Ask people here, and I'm a disgusting retarded freak. This is the part of my dataset that has been presented to them.

As of now, I cannot say that I'm someone I'd be proud of. I have a lot of mistakes. But I will avoid labeling myself. As soon as I do that, I lose. I am not anything until I'm dead. Nothing is set in stone and I'm here to fight and make my own world.
You don't have enough data yourself either to make those judgements. And even if you make them, it's based on your own irrelevant personal moral system.
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>>25360866
lol, this sounds like the premise for a yuri manga
>crap! instead of pushing me away, she kissed back! now everyone thinks we’re girlfriends, and I can’t tell the truth without looking even worse!
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>>25360821
It was mine. I wanted it because I use my laptop of a night and that side has access to power points to keep it alive. I also stay awake longer and get up through the night for water/peeing and have to crawl over him without waking him or hurting him. He got shitty with me about it because he wanted it to charge his phone but I got my preferred side and he just got an extension cable for himself. The balls are a bonus.
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>>25360739
It's not working.
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>>25360517
Sometimes an impact misses the really sensitive bit, and it feels like stubbing your toe. Sometimes even a light impact trips something and it's really, really bad.
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>>25360794
Yes. Because we are at a countdown to him explaining how Hitler wasnt so bad after all, every time.
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>>25360517
You can semi paralyze a guy if you squeeze balls against eachother and make them "slide" apart
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>>25360905
Based. Caesar wanted land reform and to make the rich pay their fair share, only retarded optimates disagree.
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as a left winger how do I get my dumbass far right family to stop talking about antivaxx bullshit 24/7
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>>25360887
>I am not anything until I'm dead
Living like this guarantees you'll never be good. Because you always have this excuse that you can be horrible today if you stop being horrible tomorrow. You are what you are in this moment right now, but you want to live in the future instead of the present. "One day I'll be good" but that day never arrives.

Every day you prepare your body for the funeral, and your body right now is hideous.
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>>25360912
Give them covid.
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Do guys have to make the first move? Not in romance but in initiating a relationship of any sort with a woman.
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>>25360916
I can't tell them political discussion makes me uncomfortable without them getting mad because they've gotten so fucking overzealous the past few years
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>>25360794
I don't know much about the Roman civil war, so if a guy wants to talk about it he actually just wants to show off how smart he is. Smart guys are hot, but a guy who wants you to know how smart he is is a huge turn off.
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Are there any clear cut signs that she’s interested in you? I think I’m more perceptive to reasons why she couldn’t be.
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>>25360911
When guys say they are into history they mean they know a little bit about the Roman Empire, and a little bit of Germany during WWII. Obvious red flag
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>>25360912
Just give up, leave. Arguing with them will only make it worse.
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>>25360854
>Felt kind of awkward as a virgin.
Yeah that was my bowling team my third year of law school. There were two married couples, an engaged couple, me, and a single girl I was crushing on. And yeah, I was a virgin.

I did take her out a couple times, but it was all too little too late. Also wouldn't have worked out; she's really fucking far left.

But yeah don't feel bad about it. I got laid and had my first gf a couple years after that.
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>>25360912
Just leave the room, nobody should be forced to listen to any kind of politics on a holiday
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>>25360930
>Smart guys are hot, but a guy who wants you to know how smart he is is a huge turn off.
I could see why this is. Needing to prove himself to you seems insecure and egotistical.
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>>25360920
They don’t have to, but it’s the most common scenario
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>>25360931
Nope! There are no signs. Well, there are, but there are no universal signs. If she's acting friendly, could be interested... or could just be friendly. Impossible to say. Just ask.
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>>25360912
They wont stop until they get covid and beg from the hospital bed about prayers and gofundme donations. just stay clear if you can, a cult does not stop until they have killed, often themselves.
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>>25360874
Me too. In school I had a friend that would trash talk me to a group of upperclass guys. They were sweet and approached me to tell me about it. I should've stopped being her friend when she lied about her age, said she saw dead angels, and camwhored on Omegle for fun. She also invited me over to swim once, invited a guy bully without telling me, and had him start fingering her in the pool in front of me. I feel like I was the plot of Jennifer's body. The upside is that I think I was a good influence on her. Towards the end of our friendship she thanked me for loving her and being a good friend. She joined a BMX sponsorship right before we parted ways.
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>>25360930
what if he genuinely cares and wants to save you from optimate propaganda and explain how he'd be caesars top guy?

caesar is really fun to talk about.
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>>25360794
>pompey was in the right
Yes, in one statement you have managed to lose any hope of attracting my attention, sexual or otherwise.
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>>25360836
>And yeah, I’ve seen clothes taken a few times, that’s why I always put a padlock on my locker…
That’s crazy. Do they just dump the clothes somewhere random or do they show off your underwear to other people? Seems bizarre to me, I thought that kind of thing only happened in fiction.
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>>25360794
Reading your post made my vagina so completely dry out that it could be used as a desiccant.
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>>25360946
Women are insane
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>>25360840
>He wants to take a bath with me, where we’re both nude and wet.
>Is he expecting sex?
Anon, I…
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>>25360937
They don't realize there's any problem because they think they're all in sync. I'm the only one that isn't a right wing extremist deep south stereotype. I don't wish ill on them, I love them, I just wish they wouldn't talk politics around me.
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>>25360963
If you can't appreciate Caesar you don't deserve a populares' seed. Simple as.
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>>25360962
They just leave them by the pool or inside their bag. I locked mine up from the start because I was paranoid that guys would sneak in and take them, but it turns out the real threat was other girls.
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>>25360856
Maybe, but that could get the bully in hot water if her friends are progressives. I feel like bullies, even female bullies, have strong disadvantages in Current Year. It might help if the bully had some identity that allowed them to say and do whatever they wanted without consequence, out of other people being afraid of being called a bigot.
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>>25360974
Is it actually a discussion, or just a deluded boomer circlejerk?
My relatives literally just burst out yelling about socialism halfway through a spoonful of mashed potatoes, provoked by nothing. They honestly seem insane.
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>>25360866
Women are far more devious with sexual rivals than men. It’s kind of hot.
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>>25360875
As a guy I’d love it if women masturbated to me. In fact, I know a few women who’ve told me they masturbated to my pictures and I found it flattering.
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>>25360974
>>25360937
Also, I didn't just leave the room - I got mad and went home entirely. I've been getting frustrated listening to constant far-right talk since 2015, so maybe this will make everyone knock it off.

>>25360981
Boomer circlejerk. Well, Boomer, Gen X, Millennial circlejerk. Everyone in my family is basically a /pol/tard nowadays regardless of whether they're 30 or 80.
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>>25360847
Hey thanks for the insight.

No she's not dating anyone. Would it be too on the nose/aggressive if I asked her out to dinner? Should I pick her up? I dont know how much is too much.
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>>25360987
I don’t blame you. I would’ve left too.
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>>25360882
I have bouts of sentimentality. Sometimes I like comfy threads rather than whipping up the women into a horny frenzy. Don’t worry, I’ll be back at it tomorrow. For now, let’s just enjoy the cozy Fall vibes.
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>>25360943
>Just ask.
What do I ask exactly?
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>>25360992
Yeah... I hate it. I love my family. I don't want to feel badly towards them, ever. My sister sent me a message apologizing for the political talk, so I guess the cat's out of the bag now. Probably my best chance to ask if they could maybe stop having every family get-together be an ATOGA convention.
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>>25360986
I've had men tell me they've done it to my (very clothed) pictures unsolicited and i just find it really uncomfortable.
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>>25360914
yo, the only things that matter about who a person is is their past and their present. the future ain't even real. never once do we experience the future. only the past and present are real.
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>>25361007
Based
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>>25360931
Touches you a lot, makes excuses to hang out with you, invites you to places, brings up sexual topics, compliments your physical appearance often, and so on.
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>>25360988
I would say something like “It was great talking to you again. Correct me if I’m reading this wrong, but would you be interested in dinner someplace? I can pick you up”. And if she says no, that’s cool. Being just friends with your ex isn’t too bad, right? Presumably you dated her because you like talking with her…
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>>25360946
>She also invited me over to swim once, invited a guy bully without telling me, and had him start fingering her in the pool in front of me.
Holy shit.
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>>25360986
Now imagine you can’t turn that off, and she says you looked really hot in the suit you wore to a funeral.
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>>25360996
Ask her out for coffee, spend time with her, and generally date her. If she keeps going out with you and you both have a good time, odds are good that she is interested. It's surprisingly simple.
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>>25360979
>but it turns out the real threat was other girls.
Many such cases.

Women are realists who think they’re romantics, while men are romantics who think they’re realists.
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>>25361030
>Ask her out for coffee, spend time with her, and generally date her.
Oh okay, so she’s not into me. She ghosted me when I tried to hangout with her last. I’ll try this again if I ever meet someone I’m interested in.
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>reinstalled Tinder last night
>already back to swiping left continuously
I only get tempted to try again because it's the literal only way I have to meet women, yet I hate them ALL the instant I see them.
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>>25360206
I’m waiting for Chad’s refractory period to be over so he can fuck my brains out again. Is that the answer you wanted?
And I’m not that attractive for anyone without an Asian fetish, anyway.
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Men

Who is the most beautiful woman in the world in your opinion?
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>>25361035
>while men are romantics who think they’re realists.
Yeah I’m trying avidly to kill the idea that there’s someone out there “for me”. It’s dumb and unrealistic.
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>>25361024
I…still have no issue with that. I want women to compliment my appearance all the time. It never stops feeling good.
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>>25361041
I don’t think there’s a such thing, just women who appeal to me and women I get along with and enjoy being around.
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>>25361041
My mom :)
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>>25361041
Simone Simons
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>>25361045
Now imagine women were taller than you and had triple your strength, and some of them like your appearance so much, they’ll try to touch you without your consent.
>inb4 “I like that too”
It gets old after a few years.
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>>25361041
My wives!
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>>25361023
Yeah, I have a hard time making friends.
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>>25361059
They’re not bigger or stronger than me though, so it always feels good. Imagine if you had this strength and size AND women liked your appearance. It’s a great feeling of power.
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>>25360982
Guys think me secretly spreading rumors that a girl who liked my crush had crabs? Awesome.
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>>25359654
It's roughly 50/50, but I still find it bizarre how people who aren't me manage to find people to date as easily as they do. Like where do you even find people? I've tried a number of places with no luck. Every single event I've gone to is 70% male, 20% ugly girls and 10% taken girls, or worse. I'm attractive, socially competent, all the usual boxes, but it does me no good if there isn't anyone to date.

>>25359662
I like his philosophy.

>>25359717
I don't know in your instance, but in general:
>closed posture
>headphones
>RBF
>aloof makeup
>sunglasses
or many other things all make you unapproachable.

>>25360012
You've been on 4chan too long, friend.

>>25360238
With a unique style that works for her.
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I feel sad

Gymcrush has arrived today with some dude, they exercised togheter and left togheter aswell...
I spoke with her couple of times and she was always friendly to me, today i saw her glancing at me couple of times but she didnt even say hi

They are dating arent they...

Anyways, she was way out of my league anyway might aswell kms
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>>25361059
Women have been doing this to me for a while. I wish they were more comfortable just having normal conversations with me. They always touch me, ogle me, throw themselves at me, but it’s seldom “normal”. Even if it is, and we hangout a couple times they vanish from my life forever.
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>>25361037
>She ghosted me when I tried to hangout with her last.
Yeah that's a pretty good sign that something's not working. Sorry dude.
>I’ll try this again if I ever meet someone I’m interested in.
My honest advice is not to wait until you're interested, just start when you're attracted. It's no failure if you go on a coffee date with a cute girl and realize towards the end that she's just too dull for you. Can't tell you how many coffee dates I've done like that.
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>>25360982
Yes, you’re forced to be creative when you can’t just solve every problem with a fight.
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>>25361041
Recently met certain girl at gym who might just fit the bill

Most beautiful doesnt exist because of personal tastes and preferences imo
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>>25361073
>just start when you're attracted.
I’m allowed to do that?
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>>25361078
As a guy I think it’s cool. The strong rule the weak and the cunning rule the strong. Hierarchy works in interesting ways.
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>>25361070
RIP
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>>25360970
this is the only normal answer every other reply was cringe shit.
>>25360840
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>>25361007
It was based when you said it. And it's still based. It will always be based. You're based.

Really this "I'm not anything until I'm dead" garbage is just a fool's cope. You are what you are right now in the present, and there is no escaping from that reality. Only actively changing it. Avoiding the rightful label is just lying to yourself and others, and if you are someone who struggles to change, then accepting the label is painful and difficult. Knowledge, awareness and acceptance is the first step to making changes. If you don't even know what you are, or don't accept it, you're never going to change because you don't even know where to begin. Simple as.
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I think I'm able to move on from here finally. That's not an insult, let me be clear, and I'm not claiming I'm so much better for it. If I honestly believed that I wouldn't bother posting saying I'm able to move on, I'd silently leave.
But it's become clear to me the basics have been met.

Thanks for all the advice and talking. I need to fuck off now.
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Bf says he's a commie, and has left wing opinions, but many of his friends are nazis and he owns things like bomber jackets with totenkopf patches and such stuff that neo nazis tend to wear. the friends are mostly chill, many of them don't seem that "serious" about it, more like they never got past that edgy hitler phase. but I think that at this point some of my friends in university think I'm a nazi since I sometimes hang out with my bf and especially his friends. would they even believe me telling them that he's a communist who seriously just happens to have nazi friends? I know his opinions are genuine.
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Can girls tell when a guy who is dressed up isn't used to being dressed up?
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>>25361092
Goodbye ascended bro, I hope to join you soon
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>>25361097
Yes. But it's fine, almost cute in a way.
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>>25361073
>just start when you're attracted.
I’m really allowed to ask out women purely because I think they’re attractive? This whole time I thought they’d turn me down because I was attracted. “If I’m into her, thousands of others must be. She can’t be single”
Don’t women hate being asked out by strange men they don’t know?
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>>25361093
No, I would assume he’s a genuine nazi lying about being a commie, since nobody would be dumb enough to openly pretend to be a nazi… right?
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>>25361109
Is it cuter than a guy that dresses up often and is comfortable in formal attire? Should I pretend to be uncomfortable?
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>>25361080
>>25361112
Not only allowed, but it's how normal dating works. The early phases of dating are for getting to know each other in a one-on-one basis. That's part of the fun of dating really.

Moreover, it's recommended. You waste less time that way. I'm not gonna ask if it's happened to you, but how often in here have you seen guys complain about getting friendzoned, about getting close to a girl only to find she's got a boyfriend, or going crazy because they're SO in love with this girl but have never taken her out on a date? All of these negative outcomes are minimized this way.

It doesn't eliminate all negative outcomes of course, and it's entirely possible you'll take a girl out several times only to realize she's a moron or a whore or something. Or for her to change her mind.

>Don’t women hate being asked out by strange men they don’t know?
Don't get confused though. I'm not talking about cold approaching or flat out propositioning random girls for dates. I'm talking about taking a girl you are acquainted with, perhaps as part of a broad circle of friends, and asking her to hang out one-on-one.

But yes, you are not supposed to wait until you're in love or truly infatuated with a girl before you try to start dating her.
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>>25361093
If your friends think you hang out with Nazis, I think you need to have a talk with your bf
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>>25361112
Only by ugly men

Attention from handsome men is nice
Just be handsome
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Ladies, there is a general consensus these days that there is such a thing as 'male privilege'. What privileges do YOU personally believe men have in today's society?
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>>25361124
Oh okay, that explains things. I’m handsome.
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Women, what’s your favorite type of pie?
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>>25361115
I assume it's because he was nazi as a teen and that's when he got those friends, but they don't seem to mind disagreeing about politics now..
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>>25361041
The girl reading this ;)
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>>25361121
Thanks for breaking this down, I’d always wait until I’m borderline obsessed with her before I even talk to her. I wasn’t aware that dates were a normal thing, I thought it was just for unattractive losers. I thought women fuck whoever without dating them, I don’t know.
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>>25361093
Sounds like your bf is a NazBol, a National Bolshevik—yes, this is a real thing. Ask him his opinion on the Strasser brothers and if he knows who they are; if he does there’s a significant chance he’s a NazBol.
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>>25361133
Same haha, I have to fight women off with a stick haha...
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>>25361133
>I’m handsome.
Hey, me too! Feels good, bro.
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>>25361129
Men are able to make six figures by posting their naked bodies online
Men are able to collect free government bucks and healthcare when they claim they have mental illness
Men can force women through daddy government so women have to pay 18 years of alimony
Men dont have to serve in army
Men are often employed just based on fact that they have good looking faces / bodies
Theres multiple social security nets that catch men if they tend to trip and do mistakes in life, women have to go homeless instead
Women commit more suicides than men

Wait a minute
I messed up something
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>>25361129
I'm not really sure what the term means. It seems like men are automatically more respected in some jobs, and their voices count for more, but that's partially because women don't stand up for themselves too. It's just a difference in biology I have to overcome. I make a conscious effort to assert myself, and I feel like I'm respected too.

>>25361134
French apple pie! The crumbly layer elevates it above regular apple pie into perfection.
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>>25361140
>I’d always wait until I’m borderline obsessed with her before I even talk to her.
You're going to make it anon. I was just like you when I was in college. When I figured this shit out I felt like I was waking up from a horrible nightmare.

That said I'd be lying if I said it was easy. I still don't quite understand how to get from the casually dating phase to the bf/gf phase (or sex for that matter). Every time it's worked out it seems like a fluke or didn't follow the normal dating pattern.
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>>25361140
They do
If you have to date a woman you already lost

Normal people just meet on parties and hook up, if they are particulary compatible they stay with eachother for longer
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>>25361134
Stargazy.
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>>25361158
>You're going to make it anon.

>>25361159
>If you have to date a woman you already lost

I’m confused again.
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>>25361134
French silk. I have a sweet tooth.
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>>25361159
Ignore this idiot. "hooking up at parties" does happen but it's mostly just sex and debauchery. If you want that, go to parties. If you want a normal gf that will eventually become a tradwife, actually try dating.

But either way becoming obsessive over a girl before even talking to her is not the way forward.
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>>25361159
>Normal people just meet on parties and hook up
So how do you go from meeting at the party to fucking? It seems like huge leap. Asking for a number, sure. Hanging out, sure. Do I just get us in either one of our places and just pounce?
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>>25361052
Based taste anon.
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>>25361167
Even when I go to parties, women check me out and stuff. Am I supposed to fuck them in the bathroom right then and there?
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>>25361041
1970s Lalla Ward.
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>>25361041
I like Erna Husko.
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>>25361041
Salma Hayek when she was 29.
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>>25360981
>provoked by nothing.
This is when you no someone has become a zealot. I get complains about the people/opinions you hate when they come up but when you kep on just starting to rant about them out of nowhere you need to calm down.
I've had friends like this, you'll just be having a totallly unrelated conversion and they'll feel the need to bring up how much they hate capitalism and all tories are evil. It is just tedious.
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>>25360863
Wait, it does?
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>>25361041
Harley Dean
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Men do you guys prefer lip gloss or lipstick on a woman?

Do you get annoyed when kissing a woman who has product on her lips?
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>>25361206
Yes, I prefer gloss.
I haven't run into product that annoys me on the girl's lips yet. I'm sure there are some that would be annoying.
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>>25361117
You should dress for the occasion. It's just telling that you don't get out much if you seem out of place in well fitting attire.
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>>25361206
Lipstick, gloss seems juvenile after some time.

>Do you get annoyed when kissing a woman who has product on her lips?
Only when we’re all dressed up and it might get on my clothes. I’d ask for a cheek kiss for the look.
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Need some detective work frens.

>me: Happy Thanksgiving. I hope you're having fun with your family.
>her: Happy Thanksgiving love [heart emoji] [heart emoji] Hope you have been enjoying it.

Does she like me?
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>>25361134
Lemon meringue or homemade apple.
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>>25361041
Kate Moss in 1993
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>>25361218
Ooh that's a good one.
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>>25361206
Nothing > chapstick > lip gloss > lip stick.
It's incredibly gross to feel any of the latter three when kissing a woman, yes.
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>>25361212
>You should dress for the occasion
I do. I’m wondering if it’s cute to be comfortable in formal attire during a formal event as opposed to someone who’s noticeably uncomfortable.
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>>25361206
I like when women mess their lipstick up kissing me.
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>>25361206
Lipstick
>Do you get annoyed when kissing a woman who has product on her lips?
I have never kissed a woman.
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>>25361214
Nah, women who say “love” tend to say that to everyone. Don’t take it personally.
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>>25361221
You have great taste, anon.
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>>25361134
Blueberry
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>>25361206
Gloss for casual settings, lipstick for upscale ones
If product is applied properly, you can’t even feel it
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>>25361233
even with two hearts :(((((
our dates went well :(((((
thanks for your honesty though
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>>25361214
Can't say no, also can't say yes. You need to look at other interactions.
>>25361243
>our dates
If you've been on dates that's positive. Flirt with the girl retard.
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>>25361243
No problem, don’t be surprised if she ghosts you too.
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>>25361224
Comfort is confidence. Being noticeably uncomfortable isn’t very cute.
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>>25361244
>If you've been on dates that's positive. Flirt with the girl retard.
Just because he thought it went well doesn’t mean she gives a damn. She probably had five dates that same week and didn’t save his number.
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>>25361252
Healthy cynicism is, by definition, healthy. But then there's being retardedly jaded.
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>>25361250
A femanon earlier said it was cute. Okay, I hope some woman notices me and talks to me then.
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>>25361214
Your text is a bit stiff. Why no exclamation mark?
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>>25361254
How am I being jaded? Alright, let’s let anon follow your advice. It’ll only be a matter of time before she ghosts him.
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>>25361244
I do flirt with her. I mean not sure how else to respond to that though. I figure this weekend I'll ask her out again though, once the family stuff settles down

>>25361247
I'd be tough to ghost, but, yeah I'm never surprised when women end up not liking me :/ I'm trying though. I think I'm a good guy. I mean I'm kind and have a reasonably good head on my shoulders. I don't know what women really want though.

>>25361258
I will think of that next time. My text last time to her had one.
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Do most incels really want to be Stacies?
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>>25361258
>Why no exclamation mark?
Too much emotion, can’t let her know you’re actually into her. She probably has 10-15 other guys texting and DMing her everyday with all different kinds of emojis and expressions. Keeping it cool is how you stand out I imagine.
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>>25361262
>How am I being jaded?
>Every girl will ghost you eventually, don't even try.
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>>25361244
>>25361252
>>25361233
Also should I press the "heart" button tapback thing or is that gay for a guy?
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>>25361265
>I think I'm a good guy. I mean I'm kind and have a reasonably good head on my shoulders. I don't know what women really want though.
Women do not give a fuck if you’re “good”. That doesn’t excite them.
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>>25361275
Heart tapback is fine. She sent you heart emojis, it's acceptable to heart back at her.
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>>25361274
It’s true though, no amount of effort, money, sex, dates, gifts, memories, or anything that you think is significant to you will stop a woman from treating you like you never mattered to her.
Please tell me how I’m wrong.
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>>25361272
I'm jealous of Stacie's more than I am chads
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>>25361278
you trying to ruin this guy? heart emoji is not okay
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>>25361275
>>25361278
Don’t send hearts, you’ll just scare her off by seeming desperate and needy.
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>>25361287
It's a tapback idiot not emoji.
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>>25361291
same fucking thing.
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>>25361272
Why would anyone ever want to be them? Fuck a bitch.
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>>25361284
>>25361287
>>25361290
t. permavirgins
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>>25361297
I'm getting two answers and so confused. Which one do you think anon?
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>>25361297
I’ve had sex with a handful of women already. They will ghost you and all inklings of emotion you give them will repulse them. You cannot let her know that you’re anything but indifferent to her.
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>>25361306
Prostitutes don't count, incel.
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>>25361303
Don’t send any tap backs or emojis. Flirt and arrange another date. Be aware of the fact that she can vanish from your life at any moment. Do not become emotionally invested.
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Girls, what is your opinion on model railways?
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>>25361303
i literally take it in the ass and wouldn't send that gay shit back to someone
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>>25361316
LGB makes my panties wet. What size tracks though?
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>>25361310
Kek that’s a rude way to describe your mother. Jokes aside, never bought prostitutes. Women genuinely wanted my dick before for some reason.
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>>25361312
What's a good flirt anon? I think I should stay quiet the rest of thanksgiving though, right? Then hit her up in a day or two?
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>>25361316
Expensive hobby for autists
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>>25361327
“I miss you. Let’s go x at y” just be honest about how you feel that way. But don’t do emojis, no long paragraphs professing your emotions. You need to use your emotions to show you’re interested and that you’ve been thinking of her.

>t. incel
I swear you guys just throw that word around.
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>>25361336
my pussy sealed shut just reading this. "i miss you"? jesus anon
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>>25361344
You gotta be kidding me. Sometimes I feel like I shouldn’t have been born. It’s like all my instincts fail. My intuition fails. I’m tired.
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>>25361286
Is it possible that incels suffer from auto-gynophillia?
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>>25361347
i miss you is too much for him to use. he should just wait until the weekend when she is done with family and then ask her on a date. he said he had been on some days, i miss you is more like something someone who is a boyfriend would say
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>>25361322
Good to hear. I was thinking 00 gauge.
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>>25361352
I may be a virgin auto-gynephile but I am not an incel.
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>>25361354
Fine. I remember telling my ex that I had a feeling women just dry up whenever I talk. You confirmed this. I have no idea why women want me if I’m so garbage at communicating.
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>>25361355
I have a bunch of my dad's old G model trains and tracks. I want to get the power unit. Any idea where to get those and how to connect it? Do leads connect to the track or something?
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>>25361360
knowing this maybe don't recommend how to communicate to other male anons
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Men thoughts on corsets?
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>>25361370
I will literally never talk to anyone ever again. I have no game no matter how much fucking work I do. I’m definitely dying alone. I was a mistake. I’m glad my parents are dead because I would be complete incapable of continuing my bloodline.
I will never talk to anyone. You win.
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>>25361376
love them
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>>25361376
Hot. Really brings out the tits and the fact that it’s presumably uncomfortable makes it all the more sexy.
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Women: Do you not like when guys ask you what you want to do? I set up a date and told her all the what/where/when and she keeps talking about how guys always ask her what they want to do and she is so grateful she doesn't have to be the man.
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>>25361376
They look hot, but I wouldn't want my gf wearing one regularly.
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>>25361387
you should decide everything for a while, but at a certain point she needs to pitch in a bit. how she will likely pitch in is during the date she'll say something like "I always wanted to check out X and never have, it's this place where XYZ happens and it looks really cool" and that's your queue to say "lets go Saturday"
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>>25361367
No idea. I haven't actually built a set, I just think they look really cool and am planning to make one someday once I get my own home.
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>>25361376
No strong feelings appearance-wise (not my favorite but not awful).
But the idea reminds me of a pretty girl who did a video about them and why she really liked them.
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Could anyone give me tips on how to probably talk to women and flirt with them without making them dry up from how cringe I am? I’m inches away from ending it all.
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>>25361396
are you going to do indoors or outdoors?
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>>25361376
80% of the reason I liked the Pirates of the Caribbean movies
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>>25361405
Small talk cheat sheet
•Grease the wheels early with a platonic compliment.
•Transition between topics using “reminds me of” thinking.
•Ping for topics of mutual interest.
•Get them excited about the conversation. Ask “why” and “how” questions—peel the onion and ask questions that are fun to answer.
•Create a connection with them while listening. Mirror while listening to make the person feel heard and to build rapport.
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>>25361414
I’ve had many women verbatim tell me that she loved talking to me because I made her feel listened to. They ghosted me anyway. Were they just lying? Women do lie a lot to “protect feelings”.
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>>25361409
Well that exposes just how little I actually know. I didn't realise outdoors ones were really a thing. These outdoor pictures I'm seeing look really cool but I think I'll stick to indoors.
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>>25361424
Just because you do one thing right doesn't mean you did anything else right
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>>25361424
>Were they just lying?
No, they were probably telling the truth. It’s more likely they just like someone else.
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>>25361424
is this blackanon again. or whatever you're called
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>>25361432
I’m awful and undateable. I need to be contained and wiped off the face of the planet. I will never pursue another woman ever again.
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>>25361384
Why do you enjoy women suffering?
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>>25361436
FFS dude just practice talking to people and go on a diet
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>>25361434
>It’s more likely they just like someone else.
Of course. They always like someone else.

>>25361435
Yes. I know I’m awful, I’m a terrible person. I should give up on dating forever and accept being alone I know. I’m sorry.
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>>25361438
Different anon but its just a sadism fetish for me.
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>>25361442
I have a sales job. I get tips regularly. Women call me cute or flirt with me at least once a day but I guess that doesn’t fucking matter.

>go on a diet
I’m 6’1 and weigh 173 lbs. You people drive me insane.
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>>25361438
I like that they’re doing it for my benefit. It shows they have skin in the game with me if they’re willing be uncomfortable for my sake.
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>>25361454
I had a date with a woman in a corset. She told me that she enjoyed hanging out with me and that she felt safe around me but the night reminded her why she needed her boyfriend.
I texted her later and she replied “Who is this?”. I continue to lose and nothing but.
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>>25361465
Keep the sadposting to a minimum, anon. It’s fine in small doses but don’t overdo it.
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>>25361454
What’s the male equivalent? It’s not a suit, they’re too comfortable.
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>>25361487
My life is nothing but one big sad post.
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>>25361495
>It’s not a suit, they’re too comfortable
Bullshit.
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>>25361495
Don’t know if there is one, male clothes are a lot more utilitarian and boring than female ones. Just compare male underwear to female underwear.
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How come women never doomer post itt?
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>>25361672
Because they have Chad to pour their hearts out to, but we men can only scream into the void.
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>>25361688
Chads are the men, anon.
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>>25360624
>And men who jerk off to random girls in bikini pictures or their female friends

why do you post them then?

Why do you post anything that expeirence and life has told you that gay women and straight men find attractive?
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>>25360715
>It’s just soothing

but why?

hours and hours of this shit. Everyday. Like some teen boy watching porn
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>>25361730
I'd honestly rather a lesbian coom to my pics than a man
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>>25361745
Post one and let's make it happen.
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>>25361438
Corsets aren't necessarily suffering. And in fact they can be quite comfortable, or so I am told. It's only the extra-tight ones that are suffering.
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>>25361899
>Corsets aren't necessarily suffering. And in fact they can be quite comfortable, or so I am told. It's only the extra-tight ones that are suffering.

I'm a dude and I've worn one a couple times. They feel pretty good actually. They give great back support



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