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I'm British and I hate my country. My whole life I wanted to move to the US or Canada but as a white European guy, that seems almost impossible.

I've considered the idea of intentionally seeking out an American or Canadian girl to date and eventually marry, but I feel like intentionally trying to do that would be weird and potentially manipulative.

What should I do about this? Every day I see more and more things in my country that convinces me how much I hate it here and I wish I could leave. Should I cope, or rope?
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>>24915507
Fellow Britfag here. I feel your pain, but what do you feel is better about north America? To me it seems they have the same problems we do, in some aspects magnified.
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>>24915507
Stay away from Canada. You would fit perfectly with burgers.
>>24915547
this
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>>24915507
Have lived in Britain during a-levels and uni. Am not English but it truly was a disappointment.
I learnt the language of the country I wanted to move to,got a job there and got the f out.
You,as typically retarded Brits, are incapable of learning a completely new language to B2-C1 level in 1 year so suck it up if you are not willing to work for it.
Your whole shitty island is Europe's doom. Better go to burgers and and keep smoking weed and getting your fat ass whipped by the hedgies.
Ethnic cleansing should have started with you fucktards
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>>24915507
I'd move to another European country, but ever since Brexit, that might be more difficult than it was in the past.
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>>24915507
I feel like every first world country (at least western ones) is totally pozzed now.
I'm from Canada and regularly think about "escaping" to some quiet third world country somewhere.
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>>24915507
The grass is always greener on the other side of the field, OP. Even in an English-speaking country and even if that country seems familiar to you, you still have to learn the customs, regulations, etc. and if you don't speak something like RP English, that might also be a problem. Actually, RP might even be an issue sometimes if they're not ready for it or you use certain words or whatever. You also aren't as invested in their politics until you leave.

So, IMHO, I would generally say just stay where you are and make your best life there instead of having to learn all the savvy and make all the acquaintances you'd need to make to be succesful and happy. Remember that even if you live in a country, thats just the broader shit. If you want to be happy, you need to think about YOUR life, not so much the bigger picture (unless you're like super, super into it but then... Well, just keeping to the end of my post)


Then again, Britian marooned itself feom Europe, so I guess I could see someone moving away from what I can only guess is now is a very precarious country... Just remember how big a change it is; don't be like those dumb born-in-America asian weebs who think they can just learn Japanese, move to Japan, and everything will be perfect and they'll get a job as a manga artist.
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>>24917571
>>24915507
DESU OP, there are certainly some advantages you habe that the U.S. doesn't have, like if I recall right, you actually have a prooert fucking medical insurance system.
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>>24915547
Less Br*tish "people"
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>>24917576
And medical institutions staffed by woke maniacs who hate his guts for having white skin.
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>>24917414
why would he have to learn a new language to move in Canada?
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>>24915507
>My whole life I wanted to move to the US
No you don't, this place sucks.
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>>24917571
>don't move to a country you'llike better than your current country. Just stay in the country you hate, because you might have to learn a few things
Based retard
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>>24917642
"he will have to learn da french language"
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>>24917645
>Moving out lf your country, figuring out laws, re-learning politics, finding housing, being away from one's family, learning to drive on the right and use traffic symbols, figuring out how addresses and labels work, possibly not even the same system of measurement, *being socially stranded with few people to really vet for you or whatever*, etc. etc. is a "few things".
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>>24915507
>US or Canada but as a white European guy, that seems almost impossible.
WTF, it's the easiest! Canada even more so, just get their working holiday visa and then once you have work you can apply for PR.
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Get a job, be good at it, apply to work overseas.
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>>24917727
OP probably already knows at least half of this shit, anyway
They teach both metric and imperial in British schools, and everyone knows about US politics. OP probably doesn't have that much he needs to learn
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>>24915507
Agreed, the UK is looking a bit fucked right now. But why in the hell would you look at the UK and determine that the smouldering shit filled hole of the US is the answer!?!
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/pol/ has destroyed a generation of incels
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>>24917801
The US has hotter women and rootbeer
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>>24915507
I've got to agree with everyone else: the UK sucks, but the US is worse in every way.
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>>24917779
>Everyone knows about US poltiics
But he doesn't know it like an American would because he has no stake. Besides, even with the internet, being thousands of miles apart still counta for something and you say "half this shit" yet did you even read my post? It wasnt all about uits and all that shit. There's some real differences and there many of them and its add up. If its not easy for an American to adapt to Canada, then it's going to be even worse when a brit adapts to America.

Plus, it will cost a lot and OP will just generally have to place a lot of gambles and I cannot emphasize enough HE WILL BE SOCIALLY STRANDED. Think.
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>>24917880
People from even more foreign cultures than the UK move to the US all the time, and they don't have much problem adapting
I'm sure OP will be fine. He can learn new things, believe it or not
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>>24917855
People in glass houses and all that. The US population is majority overweight and obese. I'm not sure you're in much of a position to brag about the state of your average woman.
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>>24917949
The UK is also majority overweight. At least the women in the US who aren't overweight don't look like rotten dogshit
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>>24917961
Haha dumb fuck, totally missing the point.
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>>24917968
I'm from the UK. Dumb shit
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>>24917982
So? What's your nationality got to do with the fact that you're clearly retarded.
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>>24918010
Your mom's retarded
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>>24918015
Your mum's nan is retarded.
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>>24918017
Yeah. She has Downs Syndrome, you insensitive prick
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>>24918029
In that case I'm very sorry and I apologies. I wish you and your family all the best in what must be a very difficult situation.
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>>24918030
*Apologise
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>>24915507
just live in cymru bro
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>>24918142
>I wanna move out of the UK
>"just move to the worst part of the UK, bro"
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>>24918171
You're clearly English though as you referred to Britain as 'your country'. Not all of the UK is shit, I've been learning that over the past few years. I did spend some time living in Canada a few years ago though and although it was great there are some slight cultural differences. A simple example is that saying 'cunt' is normal back home, but if you say it there people look at you like you just punched their nan
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If you are a manlet chinlet with no money and khv then you will still be one in another country. You can't escape yourself
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>>24918221
Wales is shittier than even the shittiest parts of England and Scotland. It's a borderline 3rd-world country, full of low-IQ, inbred mongoloids with shitty accents and a culture that consists solely of rugby and fucking sheeps in the ass and literally not a single other thing
>I did spend some time living in Canada a few years ago though and although it was great there are some slight cultural differences. A simple example is that saying 'cunt' is normal back home, but if you say it there people look at you like you just punched their nan
This also happens in the UK. I almost got killed getting beat up, because I called some chav a cunthead as a joke
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>wanting to leave comfy UK for shithole burgerland
Kek'd

>>24917414
>incapable of learning a completely new language
Why would we need to? Foreigners just learn English lmao

>>24917961
Where are you, Norf FC? Most L O N D O N girls are slim
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>>24918272
>Where are you, Norf FC? Most L O N D O N girls are slim
Most London girls are also more orange than Donald Trump, while having less teeth than me retarded nan
Doesn't matter where I go in the UK. The girls are still going to be ugly and inbred
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>>24918278
There are plenty of fitties to counteract the sunbed girls, but fairs.
You really think burgerland is going to be better? Never heard of KFC and Sweet Home Alabama?
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>>24918355
>There are plenty of fitties to counteract the sunbed girls, but fairs.
I haven't seen them. Maybe post some hot UK girls
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>>24918388
you wouldn't fuck any?
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>>24917642
Bcz none of the English speaking countries are good enough. U r underplayed and overworked, hooked onto porn and marijuana to make you more docile and keep you as (((their))) slaves.
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>>24918435
Go ahead and learn French. Quebec is great. You get to have a lot of degenerates, degenerate language and great fun.highly recommend. If you want a depressed life stay in the UK
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>>24918444
My point exactly. Go ahead and have fuuuun. Also make sure you change your sexuality and fertilise yourself. I'm a tyranny and I love it. Come to quebec and I'll take care of you for life xoxo
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Coming here is as easy as booking a flight and not going back when your visa runs out. Not sure specifically where your best options are, though. I know, for example, the Irish seem to have a good network in Boston, but I'm not sure that'd help a Brit.
The US is fucked up but it's also a HUGE place with a lot of variety, and many of the worst problems are strictly urban. Go see the Rockies or the desert Southwest, it's nothing like England.
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>>24918411
FFS anon, you're supposed to be trying to convince people the UK ISN'T populated by trolls! Look at these basic chavs!
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>>24918562
Speak for yourself, I'd still fuck half of them
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>>24918411
I'd rather fuck a beehive
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>>24918583
That's because you're also chav scum.
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>>24918603
Nah I'm not, but party girls are easy
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>>24915547
It depends what you think those problems are. For me, the problems of the UK are:
>Generally depressing/gloomy vibe
>Oppressive culture that doesn't tolerate anyone who is even slightly non-normie
>Nanny state laws. Literally all the "OI M8, AV YEW GOT A LOICENSE FOR THAT?" memes are literally unironically 100% true and it sickens me
>Connected to the above, there is no respect for individual freedom here. Britain is a hardcore collectivist country
>Politics here is extremely slanted to the left, to the extent that the "Conservative" Party proposes socialist economic policies and woke-progressive social policies at every election
>The class system in this country is extremely bad. You basically have to be from the upper-middle class, privately educated, and/or some form of aristocracy to get ahead in the UK. Politicians from all parties, lawyers, doctors, actors, even fucking comedians in this country are disproportionately private school and Oxbridge educated
>The "slag" phenomenon as seen here >>24918411. Sorry but I just don't find that style attractive on women and yet the vast majority of young British women look like that. Browsing Tinder in this country is depressing

Those are just some things off the top of my head, and for every one of them I can see that it either isn't a problem in the US/Canada, or at the very least it's not anywhere near as bad a problem as it is in the UK.
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>>24918444
Quebec is the shittiest province in Canada, and the reason Canadian politics is so fucked-up
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>>24918630
If party girls are easy, how come none of them want to fuck me?
Checkmate, liberal
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>>24915507
are you the guy on /int/ that makes this thread.
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>>24915507
Good ridance I say. People like you and others in this thread make this country way worse with the endless moaning. Literally zero appriciation to how good we got it compared to 90% of the world.
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dont come to america.. srs... its impossible to become a citizen. canada seems easier

t. first gen american with family all over the world.
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>>24918716
No. That's not me, surprisingly
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>>24918714
>how come none of them want to fuck me?
Perhaps you're an ugly frogposter
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>>24918824
But they're easy
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I mean you could probably get away with just flying here for "vacation" and never leaving, we obviously don't really enforce our immigration laws and worst case scenario you'd eventually get deported and be back to square one. Could even steal some dead guy's identity and just pretend you've always been American or something.
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>>24918908
Not OP, btw
>I mean you could probably get away with just flying here for "vacation" and never leaving
This could actually work for me. Sure, it isn't the most legal thing in the world, but I already have a pretty American-sounding accent, so hopefully that'll make me able to blend-in with the rest of the American population
Only two problems, though. How would I get work, and how would I gain official citizenship?
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>>24918908
>I mean you could probably get away with just flying here for "vacation" and never leaving, we obviously don't really enforce our immigration laws
Idk, from what I hear America is stupidly lax on immigration laws when it comes to Pablo who hops the Mexican border into California, but you guys go extremely hard on any European who would ever try such a thing. Probably because the left-wing pro-immigration lobby groups have no interest in defending or arguing the case of white European immigrants.
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>>24918631
For a UK citizen you're terribly ignorant of the American culture. Almost everything you have said can be seen here by any self aware Americans looking to move. It is the same thing.

Also

>using normie

The problem is not the country, it is you. Fix yourself, then reconsider your options.
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>>24918942
>How would I get work
Depends, you can either go to a very liberal city/state that explicitly allows people to get identification and work despite having no official status, or go to a rural area where people simply don't give a shit and never ask.
>how would I gain official citizenship?
You basically don't, you can either try identity theft from some dead guy like I said or marry and have American kids and hope some liberal regime eventually changes the laws to let you in for real.
Do keep in mind there is unfortunately some truth to >>24918958. You will have a harder time as a Brit than one of the poor, sad brown people from the south, not only because they have whole support networks of other illegal immigrants but because liberals here are very sympathetic to them.
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>>24918411
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The two blondes on the right are mad sexy. Rest not so.
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>>24918964
Some people can't become normies
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>>24919040
This is only true of people with extreme mental illness, deformities etc. Most of the people on this board are just mildly autistic and put no effort into life.
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>>24919056
>mildly autistic
There's your answer to why not everyone can become a normie
Even mild autism cripples the shit out of people's social skills
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>>24919066
I'm mildly autistic and managed to make it after several failed teenage/college years. Autism at that level is a hurdle, but not an insurmountable one. Just because social skills don't come as easily to you as normal people doesn't mean you can't learn eventually.
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>>24919102
I've spent my entire life trying to socialise with people and learn social skills. Still don't have any friends, nor even anyone I can relate to
Can't even go to a bar, without getting myself bullied by chavs
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>>24918631
All of these are good things. You need to learn to appreciate your culture, anon
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>>24919139
>t. cuck
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>>24917855
and it's almost ALL ARTIFICIAL,
which is good, natural root beer is a carcinogen that causes some VERY NASTY SHIT, also big American tits
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>>24919221
>and it's almost ALL ARTIFICIAL,
Sadly
The FDA a shit
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>>24919221
>>24919254
>nnnooooooo you cant just let people decide by themselves what they can put in their body! the gubermint needs to make rules to stop you doing that!
This is exactly the sort of reason why I want to leave the UK. Thanks for demonstrating for me.
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>>24919261
>nooooooo, i don't want free healthcare. i wanna die from a curable illness, because i couldn't afford the medical fees
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>>24919172
>t. ungrateful faggot
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>>24918631
>Politics here is extremely slanted to the left
>The class system in this country is extremely bad. You basically have to be from the upper-middle class, privately educated, and/or some form of aristocracy to get ahead in the UK. Politicians from all parties, lawyers, doctors, actors, even fucking comedians in this country are disproportionately private school and Oxbridge educated
Doesn't sound like it's too "left," does it!
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>>24919682
Strong class systems are more of a consequence of an authoritarian society, with little social mobility or freedom. Not necessarily a right-wing society
A topical example being the US vs the UK. The US is a lot more right-wing than the UK, but has better social mobility, because the goverment is less all-encompasing
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>>24919285
>ft. poor low income faggot
I hate poor people so much, money is piss easy to make and if you dont have enough to pay the health care toll then your too fucking poor to be have a opinion, now fuck off back to your wagie cage or move to engerland.
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>>24919711
t. privilaged, insensitive prick
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I have a UK citizenship but I don't consider myself "British". The State is a tool of oppression.
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>>24919972
>Rick and morty
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>>24919976
It seems like your IQ isn't high enough to understand my plight.
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>>24919972
Based Mortyanon
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bump
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>>24918631
In America you
>cannot be arrested for making an offensive joke
>right wingers are right wing, if that’s a good thing is up for debate
>you can own guns
>you can smoke weed in most states legally, just don’t expect a well paying job because anywhere aside from deliveries, state departments and weed stores are nazis about drug testing
If that all sounds good come on down, but that’s about the only key differences between our countries. If none of those are alluring, or if you don’t think they’re worth a 3-5 year waiting period + immense testing to become naturalized is worth it, don’t bother.
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>>24922440
Already sounds 100x better than the UK
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>>24915507
White people cannot immigrate to the US or Canada anymore. Be great if you could but neither government wants you.
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>>24924314
But OP is British, so he isn't white
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>>24924314
>>24924368
Someone's been spending too much time on this site....
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>>24924416
t. cringe normie
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>>24924421
Haha, yes, probably, but that's why my life is great and I come on here to laugh at you failed retards who claim that their problem is because countries won't let you in because you're white.
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>>24916509
>tripbitches thinking their opinion matters
Lmao
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>>24918964
>Fix yourself, then reconsider your options.
What does OP need to fix about himself? If he thinks this country is shit, then fixing himself isn't going to make him like his country any better
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>>24925754
OP is most likely unhappy because he is a low status, low achieving, low opportunity waste of space. He thinks it's the UK which is keeping him down and if only he could get to another country, suddenly this angry little retard will blossom into some sort of high value well respected individual. A socially inept uneducated loser in the UK will just be a socially inept uneducated loser in the US.

Hence, he needs to ix himself.
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>>24925783
Ok. What does he do, after he "fix"es himself? Stay in the UK, and continue to live a miserable life in a country that he hates?
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>>24925843
Two outcomes.
The first is that he finds he doesn't hate the UK as much once he stops blaming a country for his issues.
The second is that he decides he still wants to leave having become an actual person and other countries might actually want him rather than him having to break immigration law to get in.
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I'm Canadian and I feel the opposite. I'd rather take Norf FC or Scotland over Canada right now. Europe in general still has it way better when it comes to life security then we do.
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>>24925843
woosh

get any kind of life you want but stop blaming your country ffs
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>>24918631
I hear Americans and Canuckians making exactly the same complaints about their countries. Leftism is ruining everything, everything is fucking rainbow politics, the women are fat, ugly and entitled, immigrants are making white people the minority in their own cities, etc.

Your comments about an Oxbridge Mafia are completely off base though, and directly contradict what you're saying about leftist, welfare-loving, slag/chav culture. Perhaps spend some time getting your position straight before deciding hopping the pond will solve all your problems.
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>>24925890
Third outcome: OP realises you're a faggot, and has sex with your mom
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>>24925939
Unlikely but certainly not impossible in the scheme of things.
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>>24925905
If you care about security over freedom, you deserve neither. Then again, you're Canadian, so I shouldn't expect you to value freedom as much as an American
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>>24918717
>cheer up, you could be starving in Africa

Fuck off. Chirpy optimists like you will be the enablers that keep the rest of us gagged and bound while the country burns. Its not "making the country worse" to point out things that could, and should, be better. "Could be worse, eh! Got to look on the bright side! Ooh look, Russell Howard is on the telly, fucking legend!"... piss off.
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>>24925947
America is a slave nation. Bunch of uneducated retards who mistake the ability to own a gun for freedom as they work 360 days a year just to pay for car payments so they can work more.
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>>24925984
>reeeeee, people have to work and contribute to society, so it is slave state
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>>24926080
Hahaha, Americans
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>>24925947
That's pretty cute that you think America is free and not a nation of slaves and serfs. At least in Britain there is more security and better ways to deal with authorities then there are in North America.
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>>24926641
>Britain
>better ways to deal with authorities
Now you're really taking shit
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>>24926932
Most of their cops don't even have guns and get beaten up constantly. You're way better off then US cops.
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>>24926990
Not everyone is strong enough to beat-up cops. That's why guns exist
Not everyone can fight. Despite this, everyone should still be able to defend themselves
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>>24919261
You realise that literally every developed country in the world has food safety standards and regulations right? Having a system in place that stops people swallowing poisons at dangerously high levels is universally agreed on as a positive thing
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>>24927298
They don't need to f*cking ban rootbeer
Even worse, many of these countries also enforce sugar taxes and other bullshit, because the government just doesn't know when the fuck to get out of people's decisions. Again, people should be able to decide what they want to consume. Not the government
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>>24925984
>>24926641
Have you considered not being a consumer whore who perceives the basic functions of autonomous existence as oppressions visited upon them by various boogeymen?
But I mean carry on, I'm sure you'll enjoy your /pol/ phase in five years when you repeat all of the same retarded bullshit but yelling about Jews more.
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>>24915507
Having read the thread, I think you may be a good person and I'm going to humor you.
Do not move to the coasts.
Move to the northern midwest, the Dakotas or Montana or Idaho or something. Line up a job first. In phone interviews, just tell them you like the state culture and want to move there for that. They will likely not inquire further, so you should know a bit about the place.
You will be ignored by nearly all companies, and the few who get back to you will be skeptical.
You will keep applying to jobs until you get one you actually will be willing to stick with for a bit to hire you.
You will use indeed.com and pick some smaller cities in the state(s) you are interested in to search for jobs within 25 miles of. This will spare you urban cancer living but get you promising job fields. If you have a specialty, search for that or be prepared to explain why you're not looking for work in that field.
Make up an American-style resume and submit both it and your CV if you can.
You will have to get a work visa to start off with and "get your feet wet". It's up to you and your local loicense committee to get that sorted. You should try to find a company willing to hire you the next quarter or the next year so you have extra time for all of that and to prepare.
Upon arrival, you will henceforth refer to carbonated beverages as "pop", not "soda", not "coke", it's "pop".
If you vote, you will vote straight Republican. It does not matter what your personal beliefs are or how enlightened or disillusioned with party politics you may be. If you are leaving the UK for somewhere like the US because you are tired of the UK, you will vote straight Republican to delay the mind-virus turning all places into New Los London.
You will attend the local rodeo where applicable. You will not post on Twitter about the offensive nature of the rodeo clown's jokes.
You will be kind to your neighbors, and avoid crime and hard drugs.
Other than that, do whatever.
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>>24915507
Here's what I'll tell you as someone who was in your exact situation long ago:
You have a unique heritage that 100% belongs to you as a Brit. Your country's history, its culture, it's all yours, and you'd do well to uphold it, even in times like these where your country is acting gay.
I, for one, hated America. I hate the BLM, the government that despises white people, the ridiculous cost of living, it can be a corporate nightmare of a country. I felt out of place, and like I really belonged in Britain/Germany/Norway because that's where my ancestors came from. However, I put myself in a situation to reconnect with my sense of patriotism; I joined the military after college.
Despite how cancerous the American military and its missions can be, I've met more based people here than anywhere else. And during my time, I've seen different parts of America, really dove into the question of what it means to be American and learned to have some pride in my country and my heritage as an American. Try to remember and preserve the country your great-grandparents left to you, not what you're told your country is by people that hate you.
I'm not saying you have to join the Royal Air Force to feel at home or whatever, but consider immersing yourself in your homeland rather than running away from it.
In terms of dating an American or Canadian girl, go right ahead, it's not manipulative to have preferences. I want to get stationed in England and marry a cute English girl.
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>>24927743
*I meant to say "in your exact situation not too long ago"
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>>24927743
As another burger, I agree with your feelings on the US up until the military. At this point it only serves hostile actors to people like me (i.e. whites).
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>>24927743
>I, for one, hated America. I hate the BLM, the government that despises white people, the ridiculous cost of living, it can be a corporate nightmare of a country. I felt out of place, and like I really belonged in Britain/Germany/Norway because that's where my ancestors came from. However, I put myself in a situation to reconnect with my sense of patriotism; I joined the military after college.
>Despite how cancerous the American military and its missions can be, I've met more based people here than anywhere else. And during my time, I've seen different parts of America, really dove into the question of what it means to be American and learned to have some pride in my country and my heritage as an American. Try to remember and preserve the country your great-grandparents left to you, not what you're told your country is by people that hate you.
Not the OP, but I don't even have much of any British ancestry. I'm Ashkenazi Jewish from my mom's side, and Hispanic from my dad's side. None of my parent's ancestors have lived in Britain for over 500 years, at most
Also, fuck joining the military. I've tried everything I could to force myself to feel patriotic for the UK, but it just made me hate the UK even more. I must've burned at least ten UK flags in front of people, at this point. Probably more. I've lost count. The point is, this whole patriotism shit didn't work for me, and I still hate living in the UK
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>>24918631
I also have these problems with Britain and I'm not British
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>>24925984
I thought it was a welfare-police state?
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>>24927829
What problems do you have with the UK?
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>>24927829
Fuck off, kike
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>>24927793
How do you expect to fix anything if you just cede power to your enemies the second things get uncomfortable? There's this idea in the dissident right that you should just leave everything our enemies get their hands on; cities, academia, the military, etc. It's bullshit. Granted, this is more common in special operations, but there are people currently serving who are based as fuck, would like nothing more than to attack our actual enemies rather than Israel's and will actually be around long enough to have some sort of influence on those decisions.
>>24927829
Don't your people get off on being outsiders? I'd have figured you'd feel right at home being in some country you hate. I don't have any advice for you; you're not actually British, so just go somewhere else I guess?
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>>24927468
And you're telling me your decision to consume 40 ounces of flavored corn syrup is your own idea, that just came to you from the ether after you sat and meditated?

Consider government health regulations an antidote to the utterly reckless products and advertising that private companies would target your dumb ass with if they could get away with it.

People are skeptics when believing "daddy government" and big pharma have their genuine best interests at heart, but the companies who earn a living selling you tobacco, booze, sugar and fat? They get a pass because "much freedoms", apparently.
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>>24927862
What >>24918631 said, plus more shit
I just generally fucking hate the culture, and everything the country ever stood for and continues to stand for, to this day. I hate the culture, I hate the people. I hate how they look, hate how they talk, what they do, and how they do these things. This is twice as bad, when it comes to trying to find girls I wanna date. I hate the weather, I hate the food. I hate how I can barely ever relate to anyone, even when I try my hardest to get along with people. I hate people's obsession and nostalgia with the British Empire. I hate the sports, the alcohol culture, even the gaming culture
I really truly struggle to find a single thing I can say I like about the UK, that doesn't also apply to most other first-world nations. I know other countries (including the US and Canada) also have many of these problems, but not to the extent and not in such an unappealing combination as the UK
The UK represents just about anything and everything I would hate in a country, if that country weren't some wartorn 3rd-world shithole. Instead, it's just a 1st-world shithole. Which isn't much better, in my view

I've tried all my life to find something to like about this country. Ever since I was a kid, I've tried liking this country, but I just couldn't achieve it. Right now, I try to absorb as much American shit as I can. Consuming as much American media and food/drinks as possible, talking to Americans over the internet, ect. Fuck, I even speak in an American accent, as embarrasing as that is. The day I start loving the UK will likely be the day I die
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>>24927889
>Don't your people get off on being outsiders? I'd have figured you'd feel right at home being in some country you hate. I don't have any advice for you; you're not actually British, so just go somewhere else I guess?
Not technically an outsider, since I grew-up in the UK. I just don't have much of any traditional British genetic stock
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>>24927899
>Consider government health regulations an antidote to the utterly reckless products and advertising that private companies would target your dumb ass with if they could get away with it.
No
I'll consider the antidote to be to make a personal choice not to consume unhealthy shit. Not let the government make that decision for me. How hard of a concept is this to understand? ffs
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>>24927919
You are pic related personified

How would you describe your political persuasion? Are you a libertarian or something? Is that what draws you to the US?
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>>24928099
This and the arachnophobia smuggie are by far the best ones
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>>24928124
>How would you describe your political persuasion? Are you a libertarian or something? Is that what draws you to the US?
Pretty much that. I hate the government getting into people's personal lives, which the UK government is very commonly guilty of doing. The whole butterknife loicense meme is shockingly real. They even tried to ban porn, at one point. Shit's fucked. Of course, the US used to also do similar shit, but that would've been considered unconstitiutional in that country. I also strongly believe the US has the best constitution out of every country. Not perfect, by any means. Just better than pretty much all other countries
The UK is very much not libertarian, or even that conservative or right-wing in any way that isn't superficial as hell
I don't even believe the UK should be filled with a bunch of foreigners, or anything. I just don't like the culture

US culture in comparison appeals a lot more to me, personally. I think there's a reason why American culture is so dominant, across the world. It's because whether people like to admit it or not, Americans make some of the best movies, videogames and TV-shows. The only country that comes anywhere even close to rivaling the US in this area is Japan. Maybe also Canada, if you want to consider Canadian media to be separate from US media. I'm also not much of a sports guy, but if I was, I would probably prefer American sports way more over British/European sports
American people also seem way more friendly and less cuntish than British people. Who are at best uptight faggots who don't want to talk to anyone. At worst, violent, degenerate chavs, who spit in your face and tell you to suck your mum in a disgusting accent that makes you want to vomit just from the sound of it. Americans by comparison are the kind of people I would generally have an easier time getting along with, or at least not wanting to kick the shit out of them

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>>24928198
>They even tried to ban porn,
That's actually based
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>>24928198
Even the small things inside the US are way more appealing to me, than their British counterparts. From the more aesthetically-pleasing fire-hydrants and mailboxes, to the predominantly wooden houses, to the less cramped and crowded population density, to just how iconic everything in the US is to me, as some self-loathing Br*tfag. Sounds kinda retarded, but even the general atmosphere of living in the UK kinda makes me feel depressed as shit

I know the US isn't perfect. No country is. The US has created and introduced plenty of cancer upon the world. BLM and modern SWJ leftism being just a few recent things that has ruined the US and much of the western world as a whole. Even with these faults, I would still love nothing more than to spend the rest of my life inside the US and/or Canada

Sorry if these posts are a little incoherent. It's difficult to put into words just why I like the US so much
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>>24928216
It's not based
I could understand not wanting to watch porn. There are a lot of negative aspects to watching porn, or even the production of porn itself. Still, it shouldn't be the government's job to regulate or dictate to people whether they can watch porn. It should be up to the individual to regulate themselves, and decide if they want to ruin their life with porn addiction
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>>24928099
>people should be forced into being healthy because... because they just should? okay!
Commies should get the bullet
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>>24928198
I feel the same and I live in Australia where it's just as bad. I feel like the only nation with a libertarian spirit is the US. I am also half hispanic like you but I don't really hate Australians or anything. I like(d) their culture (it's a bit dead now) but the recent surveillance bill they passed is exactly the type of legislation I loathe. This nation is quite subservient to power and it's government structure doesn't help (similar to the UK).
https://www.techspot.com/news/91071-australia-passes-surveillance-bill-police-take-over-accounts.html

>>24928237
I think the UKs aesthetic is just an extension of their ethos really and I also prefer the American aesthetic.
For example, many important American buildings are designed to look strong, intricate and permanent to convey to the public that they are something dependable and long lasting. They're based on ancient Greco-Roman buildings as the actual nation was inspired by the Roman Republic. Something like the capitol building of New Hampshire is quite beautiful. Compare that to Australias High Court building. It is brutalist, soulless, harsh and looks like an institution that isn't going to last.
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>>24915507
Canadian here.

Canada is just a more European version of the USA, including its own french province and areas. We have universal healthcare much like the UK where yes it's technically free by way of taxes if you work some shit job and boil your skin off or cut off a bunch of fingers you don't have to worry about a 70 000$ bill for the ambulance and medical treatment, it's 0 out of pocket.

The government also has a bit more control adn regulation over stuff like news and media, again not the degree that the UK does but somewhere in the middle of them and America.

Unfortunately like you said their culture is very much appealing globally and that also includes the non stop 24 circus of SJWs and Incels or the alt right getting mad each other on the internet and sometimes on the streets. Hell a lot of them are Canadians like Jordan Peterson and Gavin McInness. But I guess it sounds like maybe you only think that SJWs are cringe while the alt-right is based, correct me if I'm wrong.

We also have plenty of Canadians who wannabe Americans, for the same reasons you said.
example: this antivax antimask protest from not too long ago where there was more America and Trump flags than anything.
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>>24928247
Individuals are responsible for their actions, true, but they are not responsible for their environment. Banning pornography, done well, is hitting harmful actions at the source, not at the user level--the social equivalent of prohibiting a business from dumping toxic waste and heavy metals into a river, rather than taxing them to oblivion, creating production quotes, or just requiring individuals to buy government-bottled 'safe' water.

This distinction is why the same people who created the constitution saw absolutely no problem with criminalizing homosexuality, miscegenation, obscenity, or even using foul language in front of a lady. Modern lolberg larping is just socially corrosive.
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>>24917626
yeah bro i'm from the us and i just moved to canada, went straight to the doctor and they called me a cracker. doctor had a hammer and sickle armband. very woke medical system up here man.
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>>24928315
>Jordan Peterson
>alt-right
Canadians are insufferable, holy shit.
JP is as milquetoast as you can get, his claim to radical fame is that he doesn't want to be forced to say xe/xer/xem under threat of prison. Whoa, how offensive.
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>>24928333
Yeah they found it that offensive
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>>24928333
I don't even care about trannies, it's just all his other nonsense about how incels would be magically cured of their autism if monogamy was enforced or how he said he drank some apple cider once and was up for something ridiculous like 45 days and then his bullshit about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps if you're an addict and cleaning your room and then his daughter has to wheel him away to some Ukrainian rehab centre for experimental since he's that much of an addict and his room was actually quite messy.
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>>24928284
Prior to the recent rampant authoritarianism Australia's currently going through, I was extremely neutral on Australia. Thought it had some cool things, but was mostly just DLC for the UK to me. Now with Australia's Covid authoritarianism, it's right now arguably worse than the UK, which is an achievement. I really hope this shit ends soon for you

I think all of the freedom-loving/respecting and generally based people from Britain all left the island, to go to the US and Canada. While Australia, New Zealand and the modern-day UK were left with the table-scraps. Especially the latter
To me, the US keeps all the great aspects England/Britain once had, while leaving out all the garbage, to create the best Anglo nation. Though, it's arguable if the US could be considered "Anglo", since it's majority white population isn't even from England or anywhere else in Britain, but rather Germany
Coincidentally, I have a similar theory with Germany. All the free-speech supporting Germans moved to the US, which explains why Germany today doesn't care about free-speech or libertarian values. The UK only being a little better in regards to free-speech, but not by much

I also love US architecture. From the old, historic buildings, to even the modern day suburbs and McMansions people like to make fun of. I still think they're soulful as shit
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>>24928315
While I love Canada almost as much as I love the US, because of how similar the two countries are to eachother. It's still clear that Canada is just a lesser version of the United States
Canada has a lot of potential to be just as good as, if not better than the US. It just needs to be under better leadership than Justin Trudogshit

Also, you're retarded if you think Jordan Peterson is alt-right. If anything, he prevented many young boys from becoming alt-right
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>>24928351
>o even the modern day suburbs and McMansions people like to make fun of. I still think they're soulful
Do you have brain damage?
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>>24928319
Individuals shouldn't have their actions restricted by the government
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>>24928375
Many of them are samey-looking, but you could argue the same for British housing. Except, at least American houses are less cramped and dreary-looking
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>>24928351
I was really proud of my country up until a few months ago. We had basically no restrictions but we still dealt with outbreaks. Now I can't even walk outside after 9pm legally and my movements are tracked constantly. We also splurged our national budget for no good reason even though we were just about to balance it. We won't be able to balance it for another ten years at the earliest. I fear that it's over for us at least in the short to mid term.
I also like mcmansions but not if they're painted grey. Neutral colour schemes are quite fashionable for everything today and it's the most dreary NPC shit I have ever seen. I get depressed looking at colourful and aesthetically pleasing vehicles and clothes from the 50s and 60s.
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>>24928374
By "better' you mean you just want it to be more libertarian right? Then what's the appeal of Canada? I don't get how you're all about small government and how leftists are cringe and SJWs are bad and then you think Canada would be a great place to move to.

It's not even like how it has those Roman-inspired architectures you talked about how the US has. Canada is very European in its appearance, and really it core. Remember, British Canada was part of the British Empire and waged war again the US and everything unlike the US that of course seceded and waged war against them. Then there's also the whole French part of Canada.

So I don't know why you have Canada as like your top 2 choice.
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>>24928386
they're not dreary no but they look like the simulation is running out of memory.

Then there's all the stretches of highway tha cut through small towns that are just a gas station a mcdonalds a wal mart and some other generic brand and it all looks the fuck same, that's more dreary than some sleepy british town
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>>24928507
Diet-USA is still USA
Canada is just similar enough to the US that I wouldn't be too pissed if I ended up moving to Canada, instead of the United States. The culture alone is similar enough to make the country at least tolerable. Even if the current government is fucking retarded and Qu*bec is a shitstain on the rest of the country
If it means anything, my favorite Canadian province is British Columbia
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>>24928507
I spoke about the Roman buildings. You are talking to another anon.
>>24928519
True. The houses in my suburb have more character and style (except for the new ones which are grey blocks) but many are one storey high and fenced off which sucks. Also, the HOA is gae. Not all suburbs and towns in the US look like this and many mcmansions are nice looking and spacious.
t. another anon
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>>24928545
>Diet-USA is still USA
yeah but it's also Europe-lite. It's also closer to Europe than the US not geographically but in every other aspect really.

>current government
even our conservatives are to the left of a lot of Democrats. The fact that we have health care and other things where the proof is in the pudding like how weed is legal on a federal level just shows how innately different we are from America.
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>>24928545
>If it means anything, my favorite Canadian province is British Columbia
it really spins my tuque around how you're this right libertarian who keeps picking the most leftist places possible as your favorites.

What do you like so much about Canadian California/Chinatown aka British Columbia?

Like why not Alberta where they're all literal cowboys that dig for oil when they're not busy with rodeos and being mad at the federal government. that would make sense
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>>24928577
Legal weed is actually a good thing, in my book. That just means the government having one less thing in it's nose in. Also, many US states already have legalized weed. If not, just unenforced marijuana laws. I personally believe mairjuana should be legal across the country. The government shouldn't have a say in whether people should be allowed to consume a drug that's arguably less harmful than a lot of legal shit
As for free healthcare, I'm a lot more iffy on this issue. I live in the UK, meaning I have direct experience with a mediocre-at-best healthcare system that people only praise because it's free. I imagine Canada's healthcare system is very similar, in that regard. Shit, but people like it because it's free. Meaning, it's somehow not shit. Even if it means having to wait possibly six months or more for urgent lifesaving medical treatment. In the UK's case in particular, it also gives people the imfamous shitty British teeth, due to the lack of good dentists in the country. Just to add the piss-covered cherry on top of the pile of shit cake that is the physical appearance of the average Britbong
>>24928593
I've just always liked the history behind British Columbia, and have always just generally found Cascadian culture to be charming and soulful. Even if the politics in that region are abhorrent to me
California is complete cancer, though. I've heard Northern California isn't supposed to be too bad of a place to live, and has a tolerable political environment. SoCal can go burn in hell, though
I guess it does help that I don't consider myself to be super right-wing, in many issues. I'm more libertarian, than I am strictly right-leaning. Not a leftist, by any means, but I do support things like gay marriage and legalized weed. I just don't want the government involved in that shit

I have a hard time deciding on my all-time favorite US state, but Texas is among the top of that list

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>>24928647
Texas is about as stereotypical and cliche as it gets, as a US state, but I still love it nonetheless. I respect their attitude towards the 2nd Amendment, and I'm glad it exists as a bulwark against total political domination by the Democrats. Since two out of the three biggest voting blocks in the US are blue-states. Texas kinda stands as the big red-state, preventing the Democrats from winning every election. For that, Texas deserves some praise from me
The surprising geographical diversity of Texas is also appealing to me. While a lot of it is desert, there are also many forested and mountainous areas that prevent it from being just one massive, boring desert

As for other states I particularly like, Florida has become a new favorite of mine. I think the governor of Florida is dealing the best with Covid, out of everyone else in the US. Giving vaccines to who need it the most, while also not wasting money on forcing young people to take vaccines, if they don't want to. The same can't be said for other states

I'd also wouldn't mind moving to a state on the border with Canada, like Washington or North Dakota or something. It would be nice to be able to drive to Canada, and do Canadian bullshit. While still living in the US

Though, this isn't to say I wouldn't be fine with moving to just any state. Even the worst place in the US, is still a place in the US. If I hate some state enough, I could just move to some other state that would suit me better. There's like 50 of them, with many different laws, cultures and physical geographies, that I'm bound to find somewhere I could enjoy living in. That's the beauty of the US, and how big and diverse it is
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>>24928685
FYI the more libertarian parts of the US are in the rockies and they also contain genuine cowboy states like Wyoming but you probably don't really care about that in particular. Texas is just being colonised by California.
>gay marriage
Honestly, I think that the correct stance to take when it comes to marriage is that the government should not define what marriage is and shouldn't offer marriage contracts. They offered the contracts initially because it was popular to get married and have legitimate kids. The government keeps revising marriage laws for the worse and pushing people away from marriage through the family court system and common law. It was always a Christian sacrament and the institution doesn't need government recognition and oversight.
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>>24929092
Speaking as a Wisconsinite currently living in Texas, the typical Texas attitude is still very alive and fun to be around. For example, I was at this river last weekend, and I was messing around with my friends, acting like I was about to throw one of them in the water, and the staff rolled up in a go-kart and yelled "kick his ass!" through a megaphone at me.
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>>24930414
Based
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>>24929092
>FYI the more libertarian parts of the US are in the rockies and they also contain genuine cowboy states like Wyoming but you probably don't really care about that in particular. Texas is just being colonised by California.
Yeah, true. Texas is at risk of becoming a blue-state, pretty soon. With all the Californian retards moving in
I've also heard New Hampshire is also supposed to be very libertarian. Not even having any seatbelt laws, or anything



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