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/ATOGA/ - Gamers and Geezers Edition

Previous thread: >>24615746
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First for Eli Ayase
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why is /adv/ so dead right now
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>>24617986
because it's late retard:3
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>>24617986
Most people are sleeping /getting ready for work I’d imagine (in the west)
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>>24617988
>>24617990
where my yurobros @ tho
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>>24617993
What game(s)?
>any will do
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>>24617997
ya it’s kinda quiet… you’re right
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>>24617957
Why are women such pathetic and inferior cowards when it comes to breaking up and speaking their mind?
>there’s no spark
>I’m just not ready
Etc etc

This literally ALL just means stuff like
>your dick isn’t big enough and you’re not making my cum like chad
>you aren’t masculine enough in your behavior and makes me feel repulsed
>you don’t demonstrate a propensity for violence which means you can’t protect me or my offspring

Women are literally so pathetic that they are completely unreflective about their OWN motivations for not being attractive so they just spew some generic socially constructed response

God I fucking hate women. I fucking hate them
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>>24618013
because they're trying to be sympathetic to the people they reject and soften the blow or they genuinely think what they say. also stop reading into incel evo psych
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Hey. Help me sort this out.
All my life I have been really stressed by family and studies and duties and all that, there was never a full day where I could just relax and just have a good time, seriously, my parents are really abusive and they always find a way to annoy me and ruin my day.
It's like this all the time, except when my older brother visits. He's great, he doesn't care for what our parents say, he takes me out, we lock ourselves in my room and either play videogames or watch movies or whatever. I can't stress this enough, I adore him, he always makes me happy. He's like a drug that makes everything bad go away, I have fallen asleep on his arms many times because of how secure and peaceful I feel with him.
He plans on buying and apartment, and I told him I wanted to move with him, he accepted of course but I'm just very confused about him right now. I don't want to be a bother to him, he's just too good to waste his time with his stupid sister, I don't know what to do
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>>24618029
if you're studying take some time off, go work a menial job in a quiet place, get away from your parents
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>>24618029
Sounds like you're in romantic love with your brother.
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>>24618039
lay off the incest porn
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>>24617997
Here, just @ work
Does suck that these threads are by far the most active when I'm sleeping
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>>24618043
Never.
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>>24618013
Women are born narcissists. Being in the public sector and interacting with men constantly is something unnatural and was only a recent development.

They used to be confined to their homes as a wife or with family waiting to be wed.

Giving them authority will always destroy civilizations and stability.
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>>24618029
Hey, sorry you're having a rough time with your stifling parents. That sounds like a great idea moving out with your brother though and I really don't think he'd mind you staying with him at all it could be pretty fun living out on your own together. When is he planning to move?
Anyways, it sounds like your situation is stressful and shitty and I would assess your options to get away from your folks desu. Are you in college? On summer vacation? If you're not able to live with your brother, maybe you can take a break from school, get a menial job and move out like other anon suggests? Presumably you can always finish your studies later, imho your mental health and happiness is much more important.
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>>24618013
>there’s no spark
>I’m just not ready
idk dude as a guy I've felt these as reasons before
probably some put it gently though because they don't want to risk aggressive guys reacting badly
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>>24618075
>reacting badly
Concealing the truth with the most pathetically generic excuses is what incites the violence. Not from me because I know what it is, but from guys on the edge that’s gonna turn into a knife fight
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>>24618001
generally shooters but if she's awesome then i don't care if she's bad i'll teach her
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>>24618013
People don't think in these terms.

A man will say he doesn't find you attractive, but he won't think "your hips to waist ratio is too high and makes me feel like you're not fertile", or "your face proportions don't respect the correct ratio and therefore I get the impression you're not healthy".
If I think about it analytically I can see that I haven't felt attracted to some guys because their behaviour wasn't masculine, for example, but when I got home from a date I just thought "he doesn't make me feel anything".

And as the other anon said, people generally try to be sympathetic and kind to people when rejecting them. There's no reason to tell a guy what I dislike about him, I'll just give him something that I think might be easier to digest.
I'd prefer receiving a "I don't feel a spark" to an insult.
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>>24618085
>the truth
that's not "the truth", that's just your insecurities
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>>24617957
How do I get a gf in college?
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>>24618102
you talk to people you're interested in
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>>24618098
>People don't think in these terms.
They absolutely do, it's just that the vast majority lack the self-awareness to see it in that way, and even if they can, they often lack the words and ability to think abstractly.
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>>24618029
People are allowed to enjoy time with their family. You are, and so is your brother, and it sounds like he does. Even if he wouldn't have you move in with him normally, and it sounds like he would, he's probably sympathetic to your plight. If you're concerned, talk to him and make sure that he's really okay with it, but he almost certainly is.

That said, half of your post does make me think you might be in love with him a little as well... but imho that's not a bad thing

>>24618102
College is the easy part with all of the clubs and classes and such. Just go to classes and clubs and talk to cute girls.
It's after college that's the hard part.
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>>24618149
>people think in these terms except they don't
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Guy here with a question for girls

why are Italian girls the hottest and wifiest?
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>>24618085
Nah, I've had to white lie to crazy girls before because they would flip their shit if you were honest about things like that that poked an insecurity. There is such a thing as tact
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>>24618153
You're not understanding me. What those words represent is a dynamic which happens subconsciously. My heart is beating according to a bunch of extremely complex mechanisms right now, according to some arcane causality tied into a bunch of different parts of my brain and body. I lack completely the knowledge required to analytically explain to you why my heart is beating right now, but I can tell you for a fact that it is beating – I just lack the words to express how and why.
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>>24618102
The more people you meet, talk to, befriend, do social clubs and activities with the better chance you have of hitting it off with someone and dating. Though you have to be a bit proactive yourself and don't be afraid to make a move or suggest getting coffee etc.
Also you don't have to limit yourself to the college itself, even though classes/extracurriculars/events are probably the most convenient settings in which to meet people. Granted, I'm not the best example as someone who fobbed off college before dropping out but I mostly dated people I met at bars, clubs, out with friends at other places etc. I'm not a burger though, your colleges seem to be a bit more tight-knit socially.
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>>24617957
Under what circumstances will the women try to initate sex instead of the man
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>>24618164
I am understanding you. I'm telling you it's retarded to expect people to verbalize subconscious dynamics they're not fully aware of, by your own admission.
I can tell a guy he doesn't make me feel much, but I often can't exactly pinpoint why he doesn't because it's subconscious as you said.
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>>24618177
If she's really horny and you're oblivious it can happen
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>>24618177
I'll initiate any time I'm horny.
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>>24618164
>What those words represent is a dynamic which happens subconsciously
except there's no proof that this dynamic actually happens other than unverifiable evolutionary psychology ramblings which you have internalized
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>>24618190
whats your bodycount, 1000?
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>>24618200
*dildocount
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>>24618200
Two lol
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Anons, state age and gender, what's your body count?
Where did you bury them?
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>>24618177
when they know what they want and like the thrill of the hunt and the joy that comes with being the hunter
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>>24618177
when they're a girl who will break the rules
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>>24618160
You meant the most vile.
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>>24618219
ill take charge for all male anons ITT

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>>24618160
Same goes for the guys tbhfam

>mfw have crush on Bonucci after watching the Euros
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>>24618180
>A man will say he doesn't find you attractive, but he won't think "your hips to waist ratio is too high and makes me feel like you're not fertile"
My point is that he actually IS thinking that your hip to waist ratio is too high, he just doesn't have the ability to express it. This is theoretically the truth behind this theoretical guy's thoughts. You posted this in reply to >>24618013, presumably to argue against the idea that women can't speak their mind. Granted, I don't think guys are any better at it and that guy is still a retard for buying into incel garbage. But he did have a point. Sometimes women will have that deficit of self-examination.
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>>24618234
>My point is that he actually IS thinking that your hip to waist ratio is too high
present one fuckin piece of evidence that this actually happens
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>>24618233
>has a big cup
>drinks out of a coffee cup instead
>has a fork instead of a spoon
lowIQ
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>>24618238
He's a hottie, he can afford to be low IQ.
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>>24618237
It's self-evident and rests on the objectively verifiable statement that human beings have aesthetic preferences in potential partners. If we accept that a "waist to hip ratio" is a metric that a human being might realistically have, it follows that even when we lack the words to express it in precisely those terms, then if the following all hold true:
>said preference exists
>men exist who are unable to express analytically their aesthetic preferences
>there exist men with that preference who are unable to express it
it follows that it is entirely possible for a man to be judging you subconsciously on a metric he can't explain without being fully aware of it
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>>24618032
I desperately want to get away from them, I really need to relax and sort my life out, I seriously need a break...
>>24618039
Imagine how stupid I would have to be to get romantically involved with my brother, I love him, I adore him, I'll give and arm and a leg for him but I would never just go and ruin his life with something so stupid like that. He's doing great, has a good job and his own life, him just taking me in is already asking too much.
>>24618067
He was asking me how I wanted my room and everything, he's onboard with it, he doesn't even want me to pay rent, I'm sure it's going to be great, we get along really good together, but I don't want to stress him out with my issues and that. He's saving up and talking with a few banks, he says he'll have the apartment by april next year. I'm in college, I can't move by myself, I don't have a job
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>>24618254
>it is entirely possible for a man to be judging you subconsciously on a metric he can't explain without being fully aware of it

possible != necessary, and the wording of previous posts implies the latter
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>>24618256
I see, well again, I don't think you should feel at all like you'd be "burderning" your brother, he clearly loves you and would be happy for you to stay, and would want you to if it means you can get away from your shitty family.
Anyway, I guess if you feel that you can get through the next ~9 months living with your family and doing school, power to you, but if it gets too bad I wouldn't stay. Maybe there's an option to take a year out of school or something and you could rent a room while working a job, then at least you'll have peace from your family and some sanity lol
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>>24618029
>he's just too good to waste his time with his stupid sister
You're being stupid. There's nothing a brother wouldn't do for his sister, and you will never be a bother to him. But make sure this is only temporary until you get back on your feet or get some peace and quiet from life and all the bullshit you're trying to get away from. Definitely get away from your parents, I've been there and my life changed when I moved out, but just remember that you're your worst enemy and that you will get no peace until you've come to terms with your thoughts and whatever goes inside your head.
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>>24618244
himbo moment
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>>24618234
People are speaking their mind. What is on their mind is the conscious thought "he didn't make me feel anything" or "she's not pretty", not the subconscious dynamics that justify it. Because people do not think in those terms, at least consciously.

You can say that people lack the capacity to fully understand what arouses them and the subconscious dynamics behind their attraction, but I'd also argue that it's fairly pointless for them to focus on it when it's very intuitive if you're attracted to someone or not.
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>>24618286
>I fangirl for qt anon for a year
>the thread doesn't get I love himbos
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Option C made me cum today. Pretty sure she's a virgin because it was fucking trash. I wasted my 2 day cum load on her when I could have jerked off at home.
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>>24618301
>Because people do not think in those terms, at least consciously.
I do. I don't go as far towards the side of HOLY SHIT I HATE WOMEN because I'm not a retard, but chances are that if I find someone physically unattractive, I will be able to tell you more or less precisely why. Whether or not this is useful in some kind of greater cosmic sense is an open question and one I don't really have an interest arguing. All I can say is that as someone who puts a lot of effort into understanding myself and the way I work, I personally appreciate it when people can actually express themselves. But I don't expect it, because I know most people are basically just automatons marching around according to programming.
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>>24618013
BECAUSE THEY LITERALLY HAVE NO BALLS OP. Also because they know that if they don't have a "soft answer" a man might go ballistic and just assault her.
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>>24618310
I would say even if she was a virgin, she gets an exemption from it counting with you
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>>24618308
The thread doesn't get it? Well they know now lol
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Question for either gender I guess
I had a guy over yesterday for a bit after we had coffee together. He opened my cabinet to pass me a glass and in there is also a bottle of laxative powder that he saw, that I take sometimes in phases for a few days when I am trying to lose weight. He laughed and asked me about it and then he said it's okay you don't have to explain and then the rest of the time was nice. I was embarrassed about this because I don't want him thinking I have pooping problems but is my explanation any better? Do I do anything about this next time he's here or just continue to be lowkey embarrassed until it passes?
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>>24618337
Why do you say that?
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>>24618352
I'm sure he's forgotten about it by now and it was nbd. Hopefully he just thought hm idk what this is for I don't need to find out lol. But ye I'm sure he forgot about it
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>>24618352
Laugh it off and don't think about it again, like ever. It's not like he's gonna be like "Yo Mike, you know what sort of shit I saw in her cabinet? She had a fucking laxative powder there, I lost my shit the moment I saw it! The bitch has pooping problems and almost died of embarassment, so I tried to play it cool and said it didn't matter." because he won't be.
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>>24618352
hahaha pooopooo
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>>24617957
How do I save this
>gf for 3 yrs we lost virginity together
>she literally gets more beautiful as she ages
>she lost 20 lbs and getting fitter
>see lots of good-looking guys eyeing her
>catch her discretely looking back
>shes acting different but insist she isn't

I cannot sleep or eat with worry
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>>24618374
did you improve during this time?
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>>24618352
>she's got pooping problems. i can't deal with that at all.
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>>24618374
She can look, but if all you had for 3 years was that she settled for you and thought she couldn't do better, than you had nothing to begin with and you're not at a loss outside of realizing she went to places while you stayed the same.
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>>24618352
>she's got pooping problems
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>>24618374
>improve yourself
>stop being an insecure faggot
>fuck her brains out
>give her the right kind of attention
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>>24618366
That is exactly what I imagine him saying to his friends! But seeing it written out like that makes me realize it is crazy to think he would.
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>>24618377
Yes but she has morphed into a stunning woman. I mean I know its her but I look at her sometimes and cannot believe its the same person. I know I said she acts different but thats just when guys are around, alone and with her friends and family the same. I dont know that she talks to any, at least she hasn't around me but those looks she gives the guys is killing me.
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>>24618396
What you need is a man who's gonna let you put away those poop pills forever and bask in your natural glory
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>>24617957
What the fuck am I supposed to do with my life? I've been studying game dev and I've wanted to work for a company but it seems every single one has rape accusations and men treating women like shit. I'm terrified of entering the field because of this and when I ask other women they agree. Can a man give me some perspective on this???
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>>24618374
how old is she?
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>>24618400
lol if she looks at other guys while shes with you, it wont be long till shes gone mate
how old is she? is she tall?
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>>24618406
we're 20
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>>24618013
Because they're programmed to avoid being openly aggressive. Men and women are equally brutal in their ways (Slutting around, partying and being a piece of shit) but women in particular don't want to say they're not interested in you anymore, so they build external scenarios by sleeping with somebody else or slowly distancing themselves behind your back to make it look like it's not their fault.
Little do they know, trying to be "nice" like that by preventing awkward breakups just makes it worse for both. I don't care about cheaters but at least be honest. It hurts less.

Many are not aware that saying it directly is a lot less harmful than leading someone on and sending ambiguous signals, or worse a complete lack of signals. It takes a lot of maturity to be honest like that. The only solution is to learn what each female phrase means and react accordingly. The downside of that for me was that I'm not taking any woman seriously anymore because it's like picking dialogue boxes towards an npc. I wish I was naive and could love again.
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>>24618405
If you're gonna be ruled by your own fears, you're never going to do anything worthwhile. No, it's not that bad and you should follow your dreams and try to make it, and you also shouldn't let anyone ruin that for you and discourage you from doing so.
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>>24618411
she looks discretely but I can see it and she kinda acts and walks different. Some of the guys are blatantly staring at her. 20 and she's 5'7"
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>>24618352
That guy is a fucking chad. He made you feel inferior just by making an unharmful joke about poopoo. He knows how to make you love him more. Chad
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>>24618416
This is probably correct. I just want to have a job where I don't get harassed and that sort of thing. I love gamedev and I love the work so I hope I can find somewhere that won't make me feel awful with workplace culture. I'd be lying if this blizzard case didn't make me sweat though.
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>>24618427
i mean, i can only say if she flirts with them, while youre there, then its soon over lol
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>>24618441
A) it's hardly likely you're gonna get to work in big companies like Blizzard when you're just starting out, so you won't be in that situation.
B) Making games is fun, but it's also stressful and you know very well how fucked the industry is, despite it getting better, and what you're getting into.
C) Should worst come to shove and you get in one of those situations, talk to people you know or whatever and don't think that you're helpless because you're not.
D) Don't buy into the narratives until they're proven, because Chris Avellone got fucked and evidence came through that he did nothing to deserve any of that so word to the wise.
E) I doubt indie studios are have such ego problems that you see in AAA working environments, so you're likely gonna be good.
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>>24618456
Thanks that does put it into perspective. I am also a keep to myself sort of person so maybe I wouldn't get involved to begin with. In addition, I will follow the case to see if any of it is BS since that has happened before. I hope it's not because I want to believe them but there is always the chance. The industry sucks and it's long hours and crunch and I understand that going in however I'm not willing to deal with men treating me like shit because I'm a woman (unless my actual work is dog then pile on). I think things will be ok and if push comes to shove I can make a game myself and throw a demo on Kickstarter to get some extra cash. Thanks anon that helped me put my head on straight.
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I've been sleeping on and off with the same guy for almost three years now. We are good friends, and really close, we confide in each other a lot, but recently I asked him if we were dating and he avoided me for two days. I don't really know - is he just leading me on? Its not like we've known each other for a few weeks, its been years, and if he doesn't feel like it now he probably won't ever. I guess I'm just asking how should I move forward. Would it be best if I just explained to him that I'm done waiting and I don't want to see him anymore? Its not my intention to make an 'ultimatum', its more that I don't want to just ghost him.
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>>24618476
He just wants to keep banging you. Don't make it more complicated and let it stay the way it is. You're about to ruin a relationship by asking you these questions
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>>24618476
You should ask him to talk, tell him what you want and see if he wants the same.
He probably saw this as a FWB thing. Shame on both of you for not talking these things out before desu
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How difficult is having sex with a bbw as a manlet and dicklet?

>me
>5'6
>4" dick
>bbw
>6'2
>about 60" hips
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if a girl never initiates saying "I love you" does that mean she doesn't really love me? she only ever says it when I say it first
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>>24618530
How long have you been together?
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>>24617957
How do I know if a girl is being sincere?
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>>24618484
I never wanted to be FWB. I was very naive and when we first started sleeping together I thought we were dating- I've only ever slept with people I was in committed relationships in. When I found out he was still seeing other people, I told him I was leaving and he really didn't want me to so I thought he was interested but wanted more time. I know its really dumb of me but I was relatively innocent to dating and the guys I've dated before were very straightforward and we were committed pretty much as soon as we started dating.

>>24618486
If he saw it as a FWB thing I don't think I would be incredibly bothered but he kept trying to get closer almost? Like he would always ask questions about my life and take an interest in things I was doing. He always tries to spend the night, he cuddles a lot and he spent a lot of money on me that he never had to as I always offered to go Dutch. He's actually been nicer to me than some of my previous serious boyfriends, which is why I thought he was serious. I was honestly gutted to realise he probably doesn't see this as a serious thing.
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>>24618164
>I just lack the words to express how and why.
Learn introspection. If you are not in control of your own emotions you don't deserve to manipulate the emotions of others.
>>24618234
>he just doesn't have the ability to express it.
Everybody has the ability to express it. People just lack the balls to do so. See >>24618415

Accept that you can be in the wrong too and don't go talking about magic that you can't explain when in reality a psychologist could very well describe the mechanisms that you fail to deduce through introspection. Imagine not being aware of your own actions.
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>>24618536
10 months.
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>>24618559
Yeah, she could be in the category of people who take their time with saying "I love you" because they want to mean it.
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>>24618405
>What the fuck am I supposed to do with my life?
Whatever you want lol, it's your life not ours. I'm guessing you're a femanon? I've heard some shitty stories about gamedev and it sucks, but I think things are gradually getting better, and there are a lot of companies out there, I don't think you should let that stop you following your passions. But also, you don't need to work at a company to make games, you can still do whatever you want as a hobby, and there are a lot of other programming and similar careers out there, so yeah, I guess try to stay open to different options. Where do you live, the US? Gl anon!
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Lost virginity recently.

How common is it for girls to want to be choked or have your hand on their throat during sex? It's really weird and makes me extremely uncomfortable. I didn't expect to be expected to do it.
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>>24618538
Why did you never ask him if you were in a relationship together? That's the woman's job.

Also, should I buy Nutella today?
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>>24618441
Yeah, like other anon said, it's more hit or miss ofc, but a lot of smaller studios don't seem to have the same bullshit happening at bigger companies like Blizzard
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>>24618576
Fairly common.
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>>24618576
It doesn't really matter how common it is, don't do things you're not comfortable with. A decent partner won't force you to.
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>>24618476
He's clearly just in it for the regular sex
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>>24618576
It's a meme that girls think they like. But it's very dangerous and you can give her brain damage and go to prison. Don't have sex with those kinds of girls.
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>>24618538
He might also be doing the 'distance yourself, she'll love you more' meme, which is clearly working on you. Just keep playing the game and you'll see what he's about.
Based on your posts nothing can be said about him. He's either nice to you because he just likes you and you two happen to bang, or he wants to sustain your FWB relationship by being nice to you or he's actually interested in you in the long term. Option 2 would be the most likely, but I'm broken-hearted in that sense so my advice isn't particularly helpful
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>>24618553
>Learn introspection
You can't really introspect your way into an understanding how how your heart beats, my man.
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>>24618321
>>24618013

You are less introspective than you think if you never question the stories your intellect tells to explain the actions of your subconscious and intuition.

And less socially aware if you're disregarding the frequent obvious answer to this question that it's women not wanting to be honest with men. Instead you're taking it as woman being unable to be honest with themselves, and that you're the only one who is "woke" with the rest of the world being sheep.

More often their internal answers are "conversation is boring" or "he makes me feel unsafe". But saying those things aloud are not socially acceptable.


Are you honest enough with your motivations behind your disdain to recognize that you're mad because you feel inferior and are upset that these women won't tell you what to change to avoid rejection?
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How common is girls having simps/friendzoned guys to buy them things?
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>>24618647
Not common outside of internet land.
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Are women that hang out mostly with guys and don't have any female friends sluttier than the average girl? Is it commom for them to have fwb relationships with their male friends?
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>>24618620
Kek, but that's not the point. The heart is mechanic while psychology is something you can control. Don't leave your brain on autopilot, as convenient as it may be.
>>24618321
>if I find someone physically unattractive, I will be able to tell you more or less precisely why.
Your mistake is that it's not about your ability to know WHY someone is unattractive but the ability to actually tell them! You don't need to know your taste to say "I don't like you, mainly because of your looks".
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>>24618655
No and no.
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>>24618614
>Don't have sex with those kinds of girls.
Isn't that the majority? It's so sad
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>>24618656
>while psychology is something you can control
Want to know how I know you don't have a PhD in psychology?
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>>24618666
Psychology is a pseudoscience anyway.
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>>24618666
Satanic trips of basedom aside, you're talking to a retard that posts retarded wojaks and thinks he knows shit, when he knows nothing.
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We matched on Tinder, we started messaging each other, and it was going great. She was replying to my messages very fast. Then, suddenly, she stopped replying. She and I had both sent each other a message at pretty much the exact same time. I think she might have had the app open when she received my message, but she closed it immediately, so she didn't get a notification, and she didn't actually see my message. Am I being crazy? Would it be okay to double-text in this situation?
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>>24618666
I don't. Only basic psychology classes which makes it more dunning kruger than anything.
Are you not completely devoid of your own emotions? It helps to be rational desu.
>>24618673
>Psychology is a pseudoscience anyway.
It's not.
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>>24618673
Psychology is the queen of all sciences, you moron.
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Do woman only care about rich strong handsome men these days? I know ideally you want a good healthy mate who is financially stable, but i'm wondering if its possible to find a nice girl despite having some imperfections. I currently live with my parents and i'm honestly not the fittest guy around. Plus i have nerdy ideas like drawing and collecting anime and games. I know some woman enjoy this as well but i'm wondering how i could make myself more attractive to possible woman i might meet in the future.
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>>24618655
Yes and it can happen but not necessarilu
If a bitch has mostly guy "friends" (ie guys that want to fuck her) that means she's addicted to male attention and that means she can't go without fucking someone while she's single so she'll look for a fwb situation or regular hookups
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>>24618538
>>24618476
>He's seeing other people
I'm guessing that he's wanting to have the relationship experience without the monogamy.
I'm so sorry, femanon. For going so long, I'm sure that you were refering to him as your boyfriend to your friends and family. What a betrayal.
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>>24618678
>>24618681
You believe you have depression too, don't you?
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>>24618693
Depression is self-sabotaging. It's a vicious cycle that you create because you can't control your emotions.
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>>24618693
I don't believe I have it, I know that I do. But that's besides the point, you however are a retard.
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>>24618716
>>24618732
It's not real, you're just being a pussy.
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>>24618688
>What a betrayal.
Hahahaha what? The guy didn't do anything. Your post is the equivalent of hating someone because he did something in your dreams.
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>>24618676
Yes. Just make a comment or ask a new question. Don't say "pls respond" or anything
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>>24618741
Read the literature and research on the topic and then try to form a better argument than just "it's all in your head, you're being a pussy lmao snap out of it lol".
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>>24618684
All of that is attractive, but far from fundamental. You can absolutely have a fulfilling relationship even if you're not peak everything.
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I judge girls with rape fetishes. You really need to deal with that because that's disgusting.
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>>24618716
>you can't control your emotions
Nobody can control their emotions. They emerge from parts of the brain which are beyond conscious control. You can only control what you do with them. Evidence points towards recognizing them, processing them, and forgiving yourself for having them is the healthiest way of dealing with negative emotion. With respect to depression, you sound like one of those JUST DON'T BE DEPRESSED BRO guys. The way I like to frame depression is that it is a disease of the willpower. It's a psychological affliction which impedes your ability to apply willpower to "snap out of it, bro." I'm sure it's very gratifying to believe that you're completely in control of everything, but it's really just not the case.
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>>24618754

Thats good news, what would you recomend as the best course of action for someone like me in this case?
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>>24618476
can you just imagine what he would do if you mentioned marriage or if you got pregnant.? anyway dont waste anymore time with him. no man will commit to anything
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>>24618799
Work on genuinely accepting yourself for who you are. Eschew the whole "playing the game" angle and seek genuine connections. Work to understand what a genuine connection actually is.
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why do women say they care so much about personality when they aren't even willing to get to know a guy who isn't attractive? i have so much to offer personality wise but women are so focused on looks its impossible for me to show them.
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>>24618841
I think it really depends on the setting you meet people. If we meet in a setting that is very "looks first" (apps are the biggest example, but in any social setting where we meet once also could work) I obviously will reject a guy if I'm not immediately attracted to them.
I've found myself attracted to guys because I got to know them and I got to like them, but they never tried to establish romantic things with me right away.

And truth be told, most people want both someone they find themselves attracted to and someone they get along with. It doesn't mean you have to be a 10/10, but at least someone they can feel sexual attraction for.
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>>24618858
I've tried meeting women at clubs, college, and online. Yet I have never met a woman who was willing to talk to me and get to know me. I know that IF I could get a woman to know me I'd have no problem finding a relationship.
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>>24618870
Meeting people through your friends or in any setting where you're exposed to the same people over and over makes it rather easy to befriend someone first and let your personality shine through. Once you've made them like you, move forward romantically.
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>>24618877
In my experience they aren't willing to talk to me though.
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>>24618888
That's quite odd, in my experience.
How do you approach people in those settings?
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>>24618568
I do live in the US and I'm s sophomore in uni for game design but I do a lot of coding/math so my degree will be a b.s. I am indeed a femanon. Do you have any further advice for me? I'm only 20 so I'm kinda nervous looking forward. I wanted to do this because I love games but now it feels scary. I think I'll just stick to smaller studios once I finally finish school and have a degree and portfolio put together.
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Why is everything you're supposed to do with girls so opposite to my personality? I always reply back fast and I always double text.
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>>24618991
there's nothing fundamentally wrong with either of these things
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>>24618974
This might sound bad to say, but most of the time in these rape accusations, the women put themselves in bad situations. I don't mean walking down a dark alley, I mean dating men they shouldn't be dating and trying to overlook the major red flags. It doesn't mean you won't be sexually harassed ever, but if you just stay away from men who don't seem like good people, you'll probably be okay.
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>>24618991
>reply back fast and I always double text
nothing wrong with that imo, forget the retarded ""rules""
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>>24618405
In my opinion, I think the media has purposely went on a campaign to demonize men, especially men they deem are in "unattractive" statuses like game dev, and then that only makes the problem worse because then those men don't get given a chance and view manipulation as their only way to get laid.
I don't think the world is as dangerous as people say and most of this #MeToo shit especially with game dev people never gets investigated as anything more than accusations, and accusations are taken as hard evidence.
Now Activision sounds bad and I wouldn't doubt that kind of shit goes on in the upper echelons (finance bros are like that, I've seen it first hand) but as a game dev I would be more worried about the overworking and crunch.
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>>24618952
Well it depends on what the setting is. At clubs I usually try to talk about whatever the topic of the club is. At college I try to discuss the class we are in.
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Bit of a weird question for both genders.
Would you rather work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. Or 10 hours a day for 4 days a week?
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>>24619071
4 days. 8 hours already takes a lot of time and energy and I'm not willing to do to shit afterwards beyond exercise even if it is 2 hours less than 10. 4 days a week gives you an entire extra day of no work bullshit to sap your energy.
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Hi ATOGA

>>24619071
Easily 10 hours for 4 days. The amount of extra time is practically much more when you consider the needs and exhaustion of working.
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>>24619022
Nta, but I wish women would also stop seeing men as their enemies and see their fellow countrymen as all 'one' if you see what I'm getting at. But they don't and I'm forced to resort to some bad shit also.
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>>24619071
Male. I can barely get through my eight hour days. Maybe if my job was more fun I'd prefer the four day week.
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>>24619071
10 hours, 4 days.
I've worked in places where I did that and it's so much better to just get 3 days off work entirely. I used to do the 8 to 6 shift, still had time to exercise, cook and clean.
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>>24619085
How's it going SweetNLow? Get any sleep?
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>>24619071
10 hours for 4 days, hands-down. When I had flexible hours during a temp job last year I tried to do 13 hour days (so basically working all day) 3 days a week so I had the other 4 off. I'm lazy with work though so currently work part-time 3 days a week.
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>>24618841
Looks are often an expression of your care for your self and especially so in boys. Most (almost all) "unattractive" boys are only so because they put no effort into themselves.

>>24619242
Yo! It goes well. I actually slept a lot. How are you?
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>>24619092
I kinda wrote a post paraphrasing my friend's theory on it in another thread: >>24615051
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>>24619246
I have done everything I can to improve my looks outside of getting plastic surgery though
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>>24619246
It's good to sleep a lot. Catch up for the rest of the week. I'm doing pretty good myself. Not for any special reason but I'm feeling good today. I'm still excited for you to play Donkey Kong Country someday. I'm surprised you've never played those games.
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>>24619246
>Looks are often an expression of your care for your self and especially so in boys.
I reject this thesis entirely and feel its cope but I know its never going to go away so I don't bother fighting against it.
Women are just really good at rationalizing whatever they desire at the time as morally correct.
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>>24619339
Then you are a very very rare case as far as I have seen. You are lean and muscular? Groomed and shaving? Short nice hair? Well dressed? It is hard to think you are not getting any attention if you are all of those things.

Do you exude anger and frustration OR hesitation and awkwardness and social fear?

>>24619381
Nope! I was never a big Nintendo person but we have a playstation in my house. Actually we have all of them and I have played a lot of all of them but especially the PS1 and PS2.
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>>24619396
>>24619381
>>24619246
>>24619242
Can you wait until bump limit or do this through discord?
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>>24619396
I pretty much only had Nintendo when I was a kid. Didn't really get into other games until I got a PS4. I've never touched Metal Gear but I think I'd really like that series. I thought Death Stranding was amazing, even though some parts were clunky.
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For the woman here how hard you think manlets have when come to dating?
Im 5"5 and 23 years old and I have never had a girlfriend before and all woman ive met treated me pretty badly from the get go, even tho ive always had many friends, went to parties etc.
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>>24619083
>>24619085
>>24619099
>>24619245
Really? Because as a guy with a 4 day 10 hour work schedule let me tell you, it ain’t all that great. Like the hours vary but the most common shift is 8-6 and I’m usually just so burnt out by the end, not to mention trying to cram gym, grooming, and meals into that as well. By the end I’m not left with much time or energy to pursue my creative hobbies. Though perhaps this isn’t much better with a 9-5.

Sure the third day off is certainly nice but even then it’s not always guaranteed, and sometimes I dont even know what to do with it.
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>>24619401
I'm 5'10" and I've never had a girlfriend. Height isn't everything.
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>>24619385
I think it is true of almost every boy I know. I rejected someone once and in terms of his face there is nothing wrong at all. It is just a face. But he is sloppy and overweight and lives off of his mother and her income and plays video games all day. I would have said yes if he would have just put effort in to himself and his life. There are a LOT of people who are like this that I see.

But I will not completely disagree with you. Your last sentence is probably very true.
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>>24619409
>but even then it’s not always guaranteed
What? Then thats not a 4/10 thats basically 5/10s
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>>24619401
Harder than taller guys, but I wouldn't say it's a lost cause.
Personally, I've dated a guy who was 5'6" and I'm 5'6" myself.
My closest male friend is around 5'6" and he has a very cute girlfriend. His ex was also really cute. He got hit on by a girl who is 6 feet tall in front of me, and he rejected her.
My roommate's last boyfriend was 5'6" and he's dating another girl already.
I also have three friends who dated guys around that height(5'5" to 5'7"), including one who is 5'10".
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Hi atoga. Anyone found a decent reason to live yet?
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>>24619399
Yes I did not realize this ATOGA was so young.

>>24619400
We will talk about it later! But yes you would love metal gear and I recommend them very much. They are very unique.
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>>24619409
I worked 4 days for 10 hours a while. It's exhausting, but I'm also exhausted when I work 8 hours so it doesn't change much lol

I normally started the day with exercise so I got it done, then showered and went to work. At 6 PM I just took another quick shower, had dinner and chilled until I went to sleep at 10 PM.
If my boyfriend was around we'd watch some tv together and he'd make me dinner tho, which was nice.
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>>24619396
Yes I am. I've been lifting for years, have good haircare, skincare, fashion etc. I've spent tons of time researching the best ways to make all these improvements.

>Do you exude anger and frustration OR hesitation and awkwardness and social fear?

No.
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>>24619430
Okay sure. You can message me about it later if you feel like too.
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>>24619409
Eh, I prefer to just get the work out the way and have more full days off to enjoy and be productive therein. Depends on the job though, I can do a 12+ hour shift on my feet no problem but sitting at a desk more than 8 hours does drain you a bit
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>>24619399
Dw, both that anon and Sweet will be gone forever when he finds out that Sweet has a black bf irl.
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>>24619414
This is what I think women don't get. A lot of men are like that because they've been abandoned. Now I'm sure, in his case, maybe nothing bad happened, maybe having a girlfriend wouldn't have fixed him or even made him worse. But women don't seem to see that the male experience is only ever being loved at your best and being abandoned when you're at your lowest. Most of us don't even have family to rely on anymore.
I just wanted to get this off my chest. NTA but I don't think I'll ever be happy with the fact that I am not attractive and autistic, even if I become less so. People have been ascribing my inability or unwillingness to do some things or become more attractive/sociable/competent whatever to some deep moral failing, like as if my autism was just a thing I could choose to get rid of anytime. Most of the time when girls are creeped out by me *I just don't know what I did wrong* and then after enough rejection and no guidance I gave up and became overweight and unable to hold a job. My family was never there for me but I saw firsthand how they saw me: an object to make them look good, that they were "good parents" for raising a semi-competent autistic kid and didn't give a shit about my quality of life beyond that. When you're down as a man, people just see you as an easy target.
It's why I only go for casual sex these days. I would prefer a long relationship, but I know that the minute I show weakness or drop the autistic mask it's completely over, and I'm just not sure if I'm willing to do that for the rest of my life with a woman. I can't be abandoned again.

I'm sorry, rant over. My trazadone I take for sleep makes me grumpy, depressed, and hopeless in the morning.
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>>24619424
Reasons? Yes, decent? Subjective
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>>24618203
>>24618190
What can I do to make you horny?
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>>24619442
>being abandoned at your lowest
Fucking feel.

Then again, I suppose nobody is obliged to prop us up. The best we can do is attempt to prop up the men around us when they're low, although often that feels like a waste of time when those same guys don't give a fuck when we're low

Fuck this gay life kek.
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>>24619444
Whatchu got, anon?
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>>24619447
Name all the pictures in your reaction folder with descriptive yet succinct names.

I wouldn't have sex with a rando, and strangers don't really turn me on, to be honest. I only ever felt sexual attraction for people I knew at least a little.
I initiate sex with my boyfriend often, but yeah you couldn't do shit to make me horny.
Unless you're my bf. If you're my bf, reee get off my thread.
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>>24619424
i live for the struggle
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>>24619439
>>24619432
>>24619418
Fair. Should’ve mentioned I basically work a wagie job that pays shit, if I were in a better paying job or whatever I might like it more. Also I am not and never have been a morning person.
>>24619424
Beyond the vague hope that someday it’ll all be worth it? No not really. I just tell myself hat giving up and an heroing is the ultimate mark of cowardice, selfishness and weakness so I carry on.
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>>24619453
Yeah, there can never be a men's movement like feminism for men because men are inherently at war with the whole world. Sure people have tried like MGTOW or whatever but it doesn't work because at the end of the day, the same guys who would agree with you in private about your most controversial opinions would sell you down the river in front of a woman just for the chance to simp.
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>>24619424
Get back.
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>>24619468
Same thing happened to me then I did it to another guy myself, kek.
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>>24619468
Not to sound to blackpilled but I think that’s just how things are. Men are inherently disposable and (young) women are valuable commodities
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>>24619409
In my experience, anything that needs over 5 hours of mental concentration is a huge strain on my energy. 8 hr day or 10 hr day doesn't matter, everything's going to be a fucking slog after work. I'd rather get the extra day off.
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>>24619470
Get back to where?

>>24619467
Keep fighting

>>24619468
I don't think I agree with this, not least because feminism isn't exactly a unified movement. I don't think most decent friends would sell you down the river for pussy, but MGTOW shit is cringe enough to warrant it. Fuck being associated with that shit, especially in front of girls.
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>>24619424
I have 4 beautiful, perfect girls who love me unconditionally. They give me more than enough reason to live.
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>>24619466
Based. Can't say I relate, but based.
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>>24618013
Hello? Anon? I see you speak woman, can you translate the following:
>I don't feel like I love you anymore
What did she meant?
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>>24619480
While that's always been the case in the last decade we've gone from a society that wanted to try and balance out the natural disposability and value of women in order to make things a little better to a society where we ASPIRE to be disposable. Look at how people treat each other these days. We view abusive childhoods for men as a good thing because "it culls the weaklings and only creates the strong."

>>24619479
Yeah, I've done it too, but I've always felt guilty for it.

>>24619486
See this is what I mean. I'm not MGTOW since that would require not dating but I don't blame guys for being it. But here it's "scaring the hoes" and "cringe." Feminism might not be a unified front but women always go to bat for each other when they're not actively feuding. I see it all the time.
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at what point should you stop contacting someone that doesn't contact you? I don't mean some BS tinder date, this is from one male friend to another male friend, dude doesn't seem interested in doing anything together or even catching up these days. anyway I thought some mixed gender advice could help. idk
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>>24619246
This is good advice. The phenomenon of married men being more desirable is manifold, but partially due to the wife grooming her mate.
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>>24619435
Females will never understand, bro. I started grooming myself in high school already and girls I talked to were surprised it took me that long to get ready in the morning. Hasn't changed anything though since you can't change your face unless you got money.
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>>24619467
>work a wagie job that pays shit
Same kek, yeah, crappier jobs can take it out of you, though I found depending on the job you could kind of go on autopilot and time went by faster when things were really busy. I guess if it's something you're more motivated to do though and pays better you might not mind the extra hours so much. And tell me about it, I'm a night owl too (don't recommend this, but sometimes when I had really early starts I'd just end up not sleeping before work, and sleep after instead)

>>24619505
>we ASPIRE to be disposable. Look at how people treat each other these days. We view abusive childhoods for men as a good thing because "it culls the weaklings and only creates the strong."
obligatory "we live in a society"
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>>24619505
MGTOW is just gay as shit. I wouldn't stick up for someone who says shit I objectively disagree with, that's sheep mentality

>feminism might not be a unified front...
There is no "might". TERFs got memory-holed very recently
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>>24619438
>You can message me about it later if you feel like too.
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>>24619424
I will escape this place that has stolen my youngest years.
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>>24619505
>Yeah, I've done it too, but I've always felt guilty for it.
I felt guilty too because the girl turned out to have a bf. But it was a good choice in retrospect because people assumed that we were a couple already and I got more attention from other girls that way.
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>>24619506
Sometimes people just drift apart. But you could ask if anything has been up with him. If you haven't had any problems there may be something he's going through that makes him feel less sociable.
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>>24618352
>I take laxatives when I am trying to lose weight
You know, taking a shit doesn't lose any of your weight actually, you just lose the weight of shit. All that fat around your waist is still there.
Start working out and eating healthier. And you won't have poopoo problems anymore too.
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>>24619506
I'd give em like the three strike rule, if they flake/ghost 3 times then it's on them to reach out to you again, else don't keep bothering
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>>24619401
That is VERY hard to answer. Maybe very difficult or moderately. I do not insist on height but how strong is that psychologically outside of what people are aware of? And I know many do insist on someone taller openly. I can not give you a certain answer but I think it is probably going to be a bit harder although absolutely not impossible.

>>24619409
>By the end I’m not left with much time or energy to pursue my creative hobbies
I feel that same way just with 8 hours. Although right now I like to work 6-10 hours 6 days a week if I can but then I do not mind my job very much and it is very flexible. And I often do not do it for other responsibilities.
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>>24619522
Well that's what I mean. Men have no support. You gained something but your buddy lost something. We're in a constant competition just to be recognized by a woman who, let's be honest, women are never going to accept us for who we are, just who they think we can be.
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>>24619447
If you're doing something to make her horny, doesn't that basically make you the initiator?

It gets me horny when my boyfriend grinds his hardon on me, or when he slowly strokes himself while we're sitting/laying together, or when he softly tweaks my nipples.
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>>24619526
>6-10 hours 6 days a week
And you do college on top of that? Dang must be pretty busy
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>>24619424
Yes, your mother.
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>>24619458
mom, cat, music, nature, cycling, hobbies and creative(?) projects, anime, vidya, food, alcohol, bashing people online, trying to make it to 30
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>>24619541
how I met your mother
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I need some unconventional advice on how to get a gf, because none of the normal stuff has worked for me. I don't care what it is. I will do anything it takes to get a relationship. I just need something that works.
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>>24619541
Kek

>>24619542
Qt? I think they're talking about your mother. Tbf she's based.
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>>24619424
Yes, get rich and date JH.
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>>24619527
True that.
I'm never letting my guard down completely around any woman. These bitches are just waiting for that moment.
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>>24619546
Take advantage of that new profile boost on tinder, get on plenty of fish, grind, meet girl, fall in love, have life crisis, lose gf, wish you were dead.

Worked for me.
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>>24619553
Yeah, I don't think I will ever feel safe in a relationship because I know that the minute I show weakness, or show my autism, and it's not in a cool sexy way like losing my shit on some guy that's trying to hit on her, then it's fucking over for me.
Maybe I can find an autistic girl someday but even 90% of them are pretty awful.
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>>24619401
>>24619420
>>24619526
The hardest part of it all is that its a very thankless hussle.
Even though you have it much harder, you dont even get extra respect for having made it as a short guy.
Maybe even the opposite because you are still short.
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>>24619567
Ditto for having autism. You're appreciated up to the point where it shows you've "cured" yourself through "hard work (drugs)."
Mental illness is constantly wearing a mask and being told that "this isn't you" when that mask drops.
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>>24619526
Wait I thought so said you didn’t have a job and just fixed computers on the side for cash?
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>>24619563
You guys need to stop circlejerking and convincing each other that this is how women/relationships are.
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>>24619575
This isn't just how women are, it's how my family is.
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>>24619563
Nah, women are based. Investing too much of yourself in a woman is a bad idea because investing too much of yourself in any person is a bad idea.

People change and leave

Fucking hell I miss her
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>>24619557
I have never gotten a match online
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>>24619576
It's just not. My boyfriend showed me "weakness" plenty of times and it never changed our relationship or how I feel for him.
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>>24619593
I don't have the things he has to compensate for my weakness.
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>>24619396
>lean and muscular
Ok so some days with you all a guy needs to to be physically attractive/lean is to just not be obese. Skinny and even a bit chubby are both fine.
Then you have others posts basically requiring a man to have an athletes physique and a six pack to boot.
Oh and for the love of Christ stop calling legal adult males boys.
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>>24619603
There are different women ITT with different tastes.

>>24619601
I don't think any of them are impossible to achieve.
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>>24619424
Yes. My family. God. My country and people as well. The future.

>>24619435
Hm. I think over text I can not say any more sadly. I am sorry I can not be more helpful.
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Would you date a she/they non-binary lesbian schizzo (born male)?
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>>24619636
These are all gay reasons to live imo, but glad you have them
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>>24619650
Nah, shawty
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Might be a longshot and I am being serious here, has anyone gotten diagnosed with post orgasmic illness syndrome? As in, flu-like symptoms after orgasm?
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What is appropriate time to wait before responding to a message from a girl?
I don't want to look not interested in her, nor desperate
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>>24618684
I'm sure they still like exciting, badass guys who are indifferent to their feelings. Women still fuck jailbirds, drug addicts, "musicians", etc... Being a hot, rich stud helps, but it's not the only thing.
Oh yeah, I see you're none of the above. Umm... most of what you described about yourself is "dry gulch" material to the vast majority of women.
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>>24619438
We can talk about it. Or do so later in this thread. I am well known for my ability to discuss video games at length

>>24619442
I am sorry. I know it is not some moral failure of yours and I know I can not completely understand this. The person I mentioned has definitely had a tragic life that must be a part of why he does not take care of himself. But is that a reason why I should date an irresponsible and unattractive person? Even knowing that and sympathizing it would still be a bad relationship. Is there a better perspective on this I should have instead?
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>>24619659
But you wouldn't commit a hate crime against me either, right?
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>>24619667
Hi, sweet! I forgot to ask you about the rape thing like I promised in another thread.
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>>24617957
I struggled but I could not hold back the curse upon Liberty University that God put in my soul to say. What is to be done with a state or a nation that fails to investigate well, and revoke their accreditation, and bulldoze their abomination, and pave it with charcoal briquettes, and ignite them for all eternity, if any truth to it is found?
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>>24619453
>>24619468
I wish it were not like this for you. I try to give some advice but in the end I am not sure what to say.

I see my brother suffer through this right now being unable to find anyone and it is very frustrating just watching it. And he is muscular, tall and incredibly smart AND successful AND pretty funny and social now so what else is there? And he can get "girlfriends" or girls to sleep with him sure but no one worth a real relationship. And I know he wants something real and that it is weighing on him but everyone just seems to want pleasure and total independence and nothing else.
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>>24619672
Most people don't hate much of anything, even if they don't like something. But... if you shove it in their face constantly, make a big deal out of "why don't you like x, why why why?", and then go on to accuse them of bigotry when, surprise, they don't want you all up in their face, you might be able to see where 'hate' comes into it.
If you pass, no one gives a fuck. Can't help you with what happens in the bedroom if you wait until then for the 'big reveal' though.
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>>24618029
After you get away from the negative influences of your parents and whatever else, you will see in yourself the same good things that your brother sees in you and hopefully realize that you are worth spending time with.
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>>24619689
It's his responsibility too not to chase after girls and have meaningless sex.
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>>24618160
Is the correct answer the cooking and sex?
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>>24619534
I have been lazy lately! Not working as much as I would. Or nearly as much.

>>24619574
I have a thing! No most of the time I do computer things for free for friends. I would clear it up but I am trying to reduce the personal information I reveal on ATOGA and my job situation is specific enough that I probably should not describe it.
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>>24619442
> My family was never there for me but I saw firsthand how they saw me: an object to make them look good
I'm in this picture and I don't like it
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>>24619688
I know I just put the question ten minutes ago, but I can't hold back saying: death fuck that rapist country, the USA, and death fuck whomever loves them if they don't exact the death of those evil idolators of fake devotions.
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>>24619698
>Can't help you with what happens in the bedroom if you wait until then for the 'big reveal' though.
Oh I thought I specified "lesbian" but yeah nice to know you'd slit my fucking throat like any normal person would
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>>24619603
I mean I personally am fine with a bit of chubbiness and being skinny is just fine also in general BUT if you want to be your best version of your self then that probably means lean and muscular.

B-but you say "girls" a lot. Instead of "women"

>>24619685
I will somehow find it in my heart to forgive your forgetfulness. In time.
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>>24619685
We often forget we’re dealing with real human beings, so it’s easy to bring the most painful moment of their past in comedy without any ramifications. Though it’s not right. I mean, is she a lame bimbo, sure. But to so lightly bring rape up, gasp! Not cool.
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>>24619719
Hey, I know you like computers, and I don't know if you know about this specifically, but I'll ask anyway. I need to buy a new laptop because my old one is a decade old. I'd like one that's good for some games. Nothing too intense or anything, I don't need a laptop to play the latest AAA releases, but I'd like to play some of the older PC games I've never played before, and maybe some smaller new releases. Do you have recommendations?
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>>24619603
If you loved Christ you would become a man.
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>>24619711
I know. He knows. But I think he is swamped in depression and it is like his only vice.

>>24619735
Laptops are a bit outside of my specific interests BUT I might be able to help. Your conditions are a little bit too vague however.

So you will be playing games? How old do you mean? Does smaller new releases mean games with lower graphical requirements like pixel games or do you have something specific in mind as an example?

Maybe tell me exactly what game you would like it to be able to play.
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Be honest here, femanons.
How important is height of a man to your attraction? How short is too short, what is the best height, all according to your personal preferences.

And don't just mention a guy with a gf, tell me your opinion.
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>>24619732
That’s fair, sorry for sounding rude it’s been a tough day so far. Also women don’t mind being called girls, calling a man a boy is 9/10 times an insult.
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>>24619748
Most girls would say
>taller than me in heels is perfect height
Personally I wouldn't have a problem with any height as long as he's not a midget
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>>24619740
Well I’m not a Christian so I’ll just have to become a man for myself.
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>>24619754
But do you not have a preference? Or is it not important to you?
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>>24619550
>Qt?
Yeah
>I think they're talking about your mother.
What why
>Tbf she's based.
cheers
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>>24619747
Okay, well I mostly want to check out some older PC exclusives I've never been able to play before like Deus Ex and stuff like that. Or the port of Persona 4 that's on Steam now since I loved 5 so much.

I don't need to be able to play a modern big budget title, I can play those on PlayStation. But maybe something smaller like that Hades game maybe, although that does have console versions. But maybe that size of game.
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>>24619748
It's important, it has a big impact on your general appearance and how "masculine" you look. A 5'5" guy and a 6'3" guy just look really different.

Ideal is between 5'9" and 6'3". I'm cool with anyone around my height or taller than me.
I'd probably put up with someone shorter than me, too, but it'd be a turn off.
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>>24619764
My preference is that he's hygenic, looks decent and not too basic, has a great personality and isn't self-conscious about his height no matter what it is.
Tall men are less self-conscious so my preference is tall
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>>24619767
>I'm cool with anyone around my height or taller than me.
How tall are you, for reference?
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>>24619616
Okay but again, that's my point, men need to be strong in all ways, being weak can ONLY count against you. As an autist, I have a Napoleon complex because I have to have one.
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>>24619748
It can be something I notice or catches my eye but honestly for me it is not that important.

>>24619753
No you are fine! You can just speak honestly even if you are a little bit rude.

Maybe it is a bit insulting. I am see that now that I am thinking about it from some different points of view. Hm. I am not sure how to feel about this. But it is so tied up in how I naturally speak and think to call you all boys. Please forgive me because I do not mean it as an insult or to imply you are a child.
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>>24619782
5'6"! Most of the guys I dated were between 5'6" and 5'10".
I've never been asked out by a guy noticeably shorter than me.
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>>24619767
>how "masculine" you look
Damn I wish femoids would like feminine men too.
Masculinity is fucking gross and I don't wanna be masculine. Screw you, femoids now I gotta be gay
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>>24619667
I don't know what the fuck perspective to have, I'm just so fucking tired of being subhuman and constantly being blamed for it, like I can just "pop!" magically one day be the attractive guy people want. I feel like as of recent years standards have gotten way higher. My fat stupid friend has fucked multiple hot girls in the past. Maybe he still does now, I have no idea, we fell out of touch because of my issues.
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>>24619650
Probably not tbqh

>>24619663
"waiting" to reply is a meme

>>24619719
>I have been lazy lately
Sweet you're not lazy lol, you're too hard on yourself
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>>24619719
Hm can I make some guesses?
Is it a wagie job? Do you do it from home? You have flexible hours so that’s interesting. Food delivery?
Also how many classes are you taking anyways? I’ve taken some over summer in the past few years but usually just one. Can’t imagine how you still get time to post on atoga with classes, work, chores, gym, socializing times, cooking, and gaming.
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>>24619797
The bitch don't sleep
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>>24619727
I don't know if it was because I was autistic or what, but they seemed to write me off as nothing but an academic achiever to get a nice upper middle class job and make them feel better about themselves very early in my life.
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>>24619788
So atleast 3 inches taller is your rule? That's what you set as your ideal range, 5'9" - 6'3".
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>>24618001
League of Legends (EUW)
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>>24619797
Yo bitch chili how has your gym lifting been going?
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>>24619766
nta but what's your budget?
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State gender, are you more of a "thinker" or a "feeler"? If you have a partner what about them? Has it changed overtime for you, have you leant more into one side or the other?
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Wait so women often like different things and have different tastes?!
I thought y'all liked the same things and wanted the same things from a guy?
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>>24619814
I don't know. I've got enough money that I could buy a decent one. I guess I'd have to see a number and decide if it's too expensive or not. I'm not sure how expensive a decent laptop is these days.
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>>24619820
No one is gonna like my body as it is, so I need to lose weight and workout more. I've been out of the game so long my arms look small.
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>>24619820
>women often like different things and have different tastes
Sorry but this is a 4chan meme. All women are actually carbon-copy clones of the exact same prototype model. You must locate the mothership and hack their machines with a randomizer for women to become different again, it's the only way
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>>24619689
I'm the name fag. Don't feel bad for my current situation, feel bad I couldn't hold my shit together when I was with my ex. Lost my job, our home, bunch of other shit hit the fan and we started fighting

I don't really want another relationship. Just to fucking die. So I don't really blame women for not dating me. I wouldn't dte as I am now
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>>24618337
This checks out. It doesn't count when it's with a dildo.
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>>24619791
I'm sure some do, anon. You don't have to suck dick on my account.

>>24619805
>So atleast 3 inches taller is your rule?
No, as I said I dated mostly guys between 5'6" and 5'10". My long term ex was 5'6", and I mostly went out on dates with guys who were around 5'8-5'9" after.
I've dated less guys in my "ideal range" than outside it, to be honest. It's just not something I feel very strongly about.
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>>24619765
Make jungle beatz
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>>24619819
M(femboy) INFP
I am the feelerEST person imaginable. I don't ever do anything without filtering it through my emotions first. It suffer a lot from being overly-emotional
I have completely mediocre IQ but insanely high EQ (scored 10 in 2 categories and the rest were 9 and 7 I think).
Literally the most depressoid omega male personality anyone could have.
I am unable to radiate any form of masculinity and my logic is always subjective.
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>>24619732
You got angry with me when I asked something about it. Are you sure?
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>>24619809
Better this week. For a while I noticed I’ve been plateauing so I’ve been making an effort to keep better records of my progress and to bump up the weight each week. This week turned out well in that case.
>>24619801
Hah, I’ve finally gotten over my regular insomnia lately. And I still feel tired after doing those things I listed, minus the socializing and classes bits.
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>>24619822
I was in the same boat recently with a decade-old laptop kek and upgraded, though not much of a modern gamer. However some Asus, HP and Dell machines seem pretty well-suited for games (the main things I guess you want are good GPU/CPU/RAM). And the Lenovo Legion models
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>>24618352
He probably didn't think anything more than "haha poop".
Some guys know that girls use laxative to lose weight. Some guys think that girls don't poop.
Don't worry about it.
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>>24619855
Thanks. My current one is a Lenovo.
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>>24619819
On the MBTI test, I fall almost exactly in the middle the thinker and feeler spectrum (something like 53/47 T/F). I have always been like this.
Think it represents me pretty well. Boyfriend is definitely a thinker, even if less than he likes to think he is.
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>>24617957
girls, do you get lonely? please describe what your loneliness feels like, where it comes from etc. is it romantic in kind? is it purely for lack of friendship? or both?
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>>24619840
https://youtu.be/Ru_GXELrnkI
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>>24619837
Well, you dated guys who hit on you. Wasn't that just circumstantial?
>It's just not something I feel very strongly about.
But didn't you say it's pretty important and has a big effect on appearance.
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>>24619819
Male
thinker
I tend to overthink stuff, probably on a spectrum, because I create many possible scenarios and what I would do in them before meeting someone for example
It haven't changed
waiting for a girl who will teach me the ways of feel tho
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>>24618374
>>24618395
This
You can't stop her from cheating. But you can make her not want to risk losing her man for some other guy.
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>>24618476
You want something serious and you're not currently having that with him. He needs to decide if he wants to have something serious with you, or not, so that you can move forward with someone else or move forward with him. That's it.
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>>24619766
Okay! How about this?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Lenovo-Ideapad-3-15-15-6-AMD-Ryzen-5-5500U-8GB-256GB-NVMe-TLC-SSD-AMD-Radeon-7-Graphics-Windows-10-Home-82KU00AAUS/529355770

This is probably the cheapest option that will definitely do everything you would like and a little bit more also. And walmart is nice because they will return anything you do not like for any reason ALTHOUGH they have a time limit for electronics like this and I am not sure how long that limit is.

In any case would get a laptop with a Ryzen 5 5500u. You can look up some videos of it playing games on youtube and it will easily play Hades and older games and stuff. I mean it will play new games also just not at maximum settings most likely. It plays GTA5 semi well at 1080p for example.

If you do not like the lenovo there are similar laptops from a lot of makers like Dell HP Asus Acer and so on like that. If you think the lenovo feels a little too cheap and you are willing to spend a bit more look for those specifications in a laptop from another brand maybe.

I hope this helps you!
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>>24619767
Its so sickening how woman are allowed to be this openly shallow and heightist
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>>24619901
Life's unfair, deal with it
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>>24619904
True, im getting surgery to make me taller
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>>24619881
>Wasn't that just circumstantial?
Not really. I asked some guys out, including guys who weren't in my "ideal zone".

>But didn't you say it's pretty important and has a big effect on appearance.
I think it has a big effect on appearance and your appearance is important in terms of me wanting to fugg you, but I like guys with different looks. Like, a guy with my boyfriend's physicality wouldn't look great at 5'6", but a very skinny guy looks better at 5'9" than at 6'3". Depends.
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>>24619904
I'm making unfair for others too then. Fuck laying down and accepting that it's fucke dup
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>>24619897
Hey, thank you so much. My current laptop is a Lenovo, a Thinkpad. It's served me well. Thanks so much for picking that out. I'll trust your judgement and get it ordered in a little while here. My laptop is really starting to show its age and I've been needing to upgrade for a long time.
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>>24619909
No you aren't, nobody cares what you think.
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>>24619792
I am sorry. But I promise fat and stupid is not desirable and neither is he. I do not know what to say but I only hope that you can keep moving forward and being your best self until you find a good future. I know you can do this.

>>24619793
Hah. Thank you. I am actually doing some sewing during my ATOGA down time right now but I am out of the white thread I need. rats
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>>24619912
I already have though and will continue to do so until females change their behaviour.
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>>24619908
I'm 5'9" but have a lighter frame. Basically, I shouldn't ever allow myself to get pudgy and I'm good? Can I pack on muscle atleast?
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>>24619914
lmao he thinks he matters
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>>24619914
Kek, gl
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>>24619797
Ahem. Very sharp guessing is all I will say!

I literally spend almost all of my time on ATOGA now. Although I will only make posts between dying in games or other things.

>>24619801
Yes this helps. I am good at being productive during my relaxation time also.
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>>24619913
Yeah well he must have something I don't cause he gets laid and I don't, and he did it with no issues while even when I was at my most lean and muscular I couldn't cut it, and now I have to lose all the weight I got from everyone deciding it was perfectly okay to let me fall through the cracks.
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>>24619865
No probs (yeah I'm a Lenovo guy too)
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women, should I disturb you by messaging if I know you're busy with work or your boyfriend?
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I watched Idiocracy yesterday.
Should I watch The Wolf Of Wall Street or Blood Diamond today?
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>>24619918
Still just my opinion here, but yeah definitely pack a little muscle. Aim for "healthy and in shape" instead of "I could break your skull in 2". I think that if you go for ottermode you're gold.
One of the guys I liked the most was 5'9" with a very light frame, he used to come swim with me so he had the slightest amount of muscle. I thought he looked great.
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>>24619927
Wolf of wall Street. Margot robbie is sex personified
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>>24619819
Can I be too much of both? I need to both think and feel less maybe.

>>24619833
You will not always be as you are now. I promise there is still hope for you. You sound thoughtful and emotional. I really do believe in you guys.
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>>24619926
Sure, if you have something to tell me. I might not answer right away.
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>>24619913
>>24619923
>>24619933
Please respond to me.
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>>24619929
I already have defined muscles with minimal effort, but I'm shooting for more. I'm not gonna add too much weight, and I want it all in upper body (back, arms and shoulders). So my goal is a very athletic look, rather than a gym king skullcrusher.

Girls like that kind of bodytype, right?
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>>24619847
I am kitten. I have never gotten angry with anyone on ATOGA but it is not an appropriate topic

>>24619910
Very well! Wow Lenovo is popular.

But seriously these most basic Lenovos can feel a little bit cheap some of the time. If you do not care for it seriously return it to Walmart and look at getting a model from another company that brings you more joy! Especially if you are willing to spend another 100 more or so.
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>>24619944
you passive aggressive, cunt
you already insulted before without any levity to it.
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So I understand that girls do indeed fart. That is strange but understandable. Now I have a question for all the girls here.
Do you belch? And how loud?
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>>24619944
I'd be willing to pay more, but I think what you picked out will be good enough. It will be a huge improvement over what I have at least. And hey, we're at the bump limit now. So should I check out Metal Gear using this thing?
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>>24619939
>jarvis, scan poster 24619939 for sexual history
>sir, there appears to be zero form of any kind of sexual interaction between this person and another human being
>typical, thanks jarvis
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>>24619930
I care about acting tho.
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Women, what do you think of peeners and testes with fordyce spots?
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>>24619924
I think that is luck or some kind of illusion he is putting on OR he is some kind of strange rare case. I wish I could say something to make you feel better. But you must keep going for your self. I KNOW you can do better than some fat and stupid person.

>>24619939
Hey! Who are you?
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>>24619953
Did I?! I have never really tried to seriously attack anyone here.

>>24619961
Yes! It should emulate well although I can not guarantee that. But that is a 5500u and I have emulated PS1 games very well on a 3500u.
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>>24619940
As long as you don't go too overboard and you stay on the lighter side.
At the end it's just a matter of balancing your height and your figure. At 5'9" most things work. It's the extremes that make it look funny.
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>>24619937
I don't, just want to ask how do you do and for you to continue this chit chat.
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>>24619964
Oh, then idk who cares? Flip a coin

>>24619933
Eh, I'm the bpdfag. I don't see much hope. Ty anyway
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>>24619954
We obviously do neither. Just different biology

>>24619981
I will see the hope for you if you work on being your best self and take the action. I will cover the hope if you do the work!
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>>24619978
Ok, thanks for taking your time.
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>>24619976
we never interact and I’m glad to keep it that way but don’t act innocent ugly
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>>24619976
Everything I read about that series sounds really interesting to me, but I've tried not to read to much since I think it'll be up my alley and I don't want to spoil anything. I'm really excited to get to those. I thought Death Stranding was really good, but it's good in a nonconventional way where I can really understand someone not liking it.
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>>24619984
I doubt I'll do the work ngl, there's nothing in this life that I even want anymore.
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>>24619989
B-b-b-but what did I do

>>24619991
Yes just play them blind please. They will be very worth it! I was interested in death stranding but I have not tried it yet. It seems comfortable and soulful though and I think I will enjoy it. I tend to like unconventional things.
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>>24619930
If it weren’t illegal I would rape Margot Robbie repeatedly I am in love with her in that movie
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State gender, what's the last image you saved, and why? Post it if it's sfw
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>>24620016
>It seems comfortable and soulful though and I think I will enjoy it.
I'm interested in the "Director's Cut" coming out. It looks like they've improved the combat, which is good because that was the weakest part of the game by far. It is very comfy, but it's also very slow. And I enjoyed that, but some people might not. Basically if you go in expecting a really fun game, that's not quite what it's like. But it's a very unique and in my opinion powerful experience. I liked it a lot and I would recommend it. But there's also some people who just thought it was boring, and I understand those people too. I get the divisiveness totally.

But anyway I really am excited to finally give Metal Gear a try. I'll go in as blind as I can now.
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>>24620029
Don’t ask.
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>>24620029
Male.
I hate posts like this. Why the fuck. you post this? What fucking answer you'll get fom this?
retard
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>>24620029
M
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>>24620016
not telling. I didn’t even speak to you, another anon just made a mistake and you scoffed at me for it like a total bitch
but I’m glad it happened because I now know how vain and disgusting you are
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I'm a bit drunk, tell me what's bothering you, /ATOGA/.
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>>24620071
Your drinking problem
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>>24620074
I don't have one, next.
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>>24620071
That I might never find woman as good as my ex
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>>24620078
And why would you think that?
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>>24619897
Oh shit that looks like the laptop I had back in high school. Granted mine was a hundred or so cheaper, had a piss poor battery life, rather slow, and couldn’t play any games beyond ps1 and gba emulations. But it served me well.
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>>24620080
Why wouldn't I
Most likely I'll have to settle with someone good enough
probably won't even be happy anymore
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>>24620088
Why assume the loser stance as your go to one? I don't get it.
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>>24620027
She makes my wiener tingle
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People obsessing over their partner's past should watch Chasing Amy and take notes.
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https://vocaroo.com/1lTrWMY9nOPd
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>>24620096
I never met someone like her, never was I able to be fully myself with someone and happy. She dumped me because I was a failure in life and ahe felt liie she was holding me back.
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>>24620071
Same as >>24620078
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>>24620043
Hm! You may have me confused. But perhaps you are right. Vanity is my number one sin. I can be very vain at times.

>>24620029
This. It just made me laugh
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>>24620112
Qrd
I’m not cool with a gf being a slut in the past and I ghosted girls over it
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>>24620116
Shut the fuck up.

>>24620132
>>24620135
How old are you?
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>>24620029
Male. This. Backs are nice.
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>there's this cute russian girl in neighborhood
>tfw I barely speak russian
please help, she is very cute! how do I learn russian fast???
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>>24620149
You don't, you get her to teach you instead. ;)
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>>24620116
HAHA. You sound like you are from a movie maybe. Or maybe like you are about to chop up the janitor like Patrick Bateman

>>24620148
REALLY good taste exhib
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>>24620140
22
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>>24620155
Thank you, thank you, I try.
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>>24620155
I also got Patrick Bateman vibes
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>>24620158
That's your problem, you're still young and stupid and think you've seen the world when you haven't seen shit.
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>>24620112
I'm watching The Wolf of Wall Street right now with Pringles and Coke.
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>>24620030
Should I wait for the director's cut also? Actually I think I will.

Metal Gear has to be done blind they are very special. I like the second game the most personally.

>>24619876
I have felt a lot of loneliness. Less so in the last couple of years. I mostly felt angry loneliness. Like no one was even worth knowing even if I could socialize.
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>>24620148
Such a great bod wasted on such a rotten bitch.
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>>24620172
You're dumb. What you should be doing is eating a veggie soup and watching Boogie Nights, like I am right now.
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>>24620177
Hey, she's not that bad. Just not as good as most of her predecessors. But a lot of people can relate to that.
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>>24620140
I am 32. I was looking for a ring to buy for my ex before she dumped me
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>>24620136
>Hm!
you’re such a cunt and no, you’re obviously the same vapid bitch who insulted me over a mistake I had nothing to do with
clearly your vanity took over your fried brain when it happened but don’t project your insecurities out on me ugly.
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>>24620112
https://youtu.be/1OQl89ewXvc
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>>24620187
You're 32 and you're taking advice from a random from the internet? Dude.
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>>24620180
I know I need to stop eating junk, but I'm sad and it helps me feel better.
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>>24620152
b..but how we communicate!?
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>>24620197
You asked for it. Don't you like challenges?
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>>24620174
>Should I wait for the director's cut also? Actually I think I will.
You should. I enjoyed the whole game, but combat was absolutely the weakest link, and when that is improved the game will be a lot better. I kind of want to replay it but I'm waiting for the director's cut.

People seem to say 2 and 3 are the best Metal Gear games. I'd ask why but I've spent years avoiding any details about Metal Gear since I just really think I'll love those games. And I was very impressed by Death Stranding, though it did have flaws.

Thank you for the laptop recommendation, I've been putting off upgrading for way too long. Every time Windows updates I'm afraid the thing won't turn back on.

And anyway it's good that you're less lonely now. I used to think I could handle being alone all the time, but you really need other people.
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>>24620177
>>24620183
Hah. She also irritated me and I did not care for the Korra series over all. But she and asami are super attractive.

>>24620191
Perhaps so. I have surely done many rude things in my life.
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>>24620221
I agree. I used to thrive on being alone but it is very unhealthy for your mind.

>>24619994
Ahem. Then I will do the hoping AND the wanting. And then you can do the work.
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>>24620183
Yeah she’s pretty awful. Just her entitlement and rotten attitude is a pure dick deflator. Then again Korra is just one of my most hated shows period.
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>>24620225
yeah, obviously moron
we’re rude at point or another but don’t act innocent and even suggest I’m confusing you for someone else
I’d have it so you say sorry to me but you’d probably like it too much like some kind of fucking dog so just shut your mouth
it’s over.
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>>24620242
>I used to thrive on being alone but it is very unhealthy for your mind.
That's part of why I'm so glad I started going to church again. I live on my own, and obviously 2020 was the way it was. I didn't realize just how horrible is to be alone to the level that I was.
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>>24620244
Something about her strength and combined with her stubbornness and smugness is really cool though. In a sexy way at least I guess.

>>24620259
Brutal. I would say sorry but I do not even know what you are talking about! But I hope expressing your frustrations has relieved you.
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>>24620155
https://vocaroo.com/19K8CYUBaQSb
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>>24620280
AHAHAHAHA. Yes of course my apologies. Pls no chainsaw
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>>24620242
Hey how far out do you do deliveries? Cause I could really go for some Chinese tonight and don’t really feel like driving.
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>>24620043
if sweelo chan attacks you sideways it's because you should be a better man
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>>24620271
I told you to shut your fucking mouth already but being the cunt you are, I know you couldn’t help it
though you again prove you’re a passive aggressive bitch with that last comment of yours
again moron, it’s over so just save your nasty attitude and half-assed apology for someone else
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>>24620285
Ahem. Chinese? I thought your were loyal to chili.

>>24620294
I should really not be trusted with such authority.
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>>24620307
Honestly your super anger makes me smile and I hope you are not made even angrier because of that. But if you want to rant at me more please do
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How can I convince you that liking feet is normal?
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>be me
>F
>cute guy works at a local supermarket
>go next to where ge stacks shelves
>ask him for price of something random
>he rolls his eyes and goes check
>mutters "god I hate these fucking zombies" in his chin
>returns my item with a shit eating grin, tells me the price, kneels, and fucks off back to his shelf without a 2nd glance
are all service industry people like this?
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>>24620358
you must be very ugly
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>>24620329
Well every man has to have something different once in a while.
Truth be told though, I actually can’t eat chili. Allergic to legumes.
And you didn’t answer my question. I know we live quite a ways away but you’ll make an exception for atoga right?
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>>24620356
I think most women understand by now that it's one of the most common fetishes. Not all of them are willing to engage in it

>>24620358
>femcels aren't a thing guys women can't be incels
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Should I rent an industrial unit to live in?
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>>24620284
https://vocaroo.com/1hfMQ1Rpqq94
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>>24620391
get pic related
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https://voca.ro/1bsN2J11vMjI
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>>24620029
F. The very last one is stuff I saved for my thesis with names on it.
Before that, I think this one. I watched a lot of footy this past month.
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I've been texting this girl who lives in Australia every day for hours for the last two weeks. I'm from the UK and I really fucking like her and feel like I can share pretty much everything with her without feeling judged. She knows pretty much everything important about me at this point. She knows I deal with some pretty severe anxiety at times because I have been completely honest about how it affects me. We both come from backgrounds with a lot of genuine struggle. She wants to actually start talking with me on call soon and it scares the shit out of me. I've been out of the game a really long time and I'm just worried about fucking it up somehow, or that I haven't represented myself accurately in some way or another. I'm just a bundle of nerves. I told her that it makes me nervous. I don't even know what I'm asking, but tell me the answer anyway please. I'd like to hear a female's perspective.
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>>24620029
I saved it to make the non-binary thread on /lgbt/
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>>24620414
She's a woman.
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>>24620411
Butterflies in your stomach is a natural reaction to protect you during very important events in your life. If she means this much to you, it's time to think about marrying her. Or allowing your heart to expect it.
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>>24620340
Brace yourself, here it comes, AHEM:
AHHHHHHHHAHHHHHHHHAHHHHHHHHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Ta-da!
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>>24620418
Don't really care about what you think.
I don't like Demi either, they're probably a transtrender, but I still think they're valid until proven wrong
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>>24620406
You didn't watch it before? This Euro was the best one I've ever seen since the 2008 one. England losing with 3 fucking cherrypicked niggers missing their penalties was just beautiful.
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>>24620379
Yes very well. You may be charged for plane tickets. Is this acceptable?

>>24620394
Bark.
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>>24620420
>If she means this much to you, it's time to think about marrying her. Or allowing your heart to expect it.
It's just been such a short time. I've never clicked with anyone like this before. We both want to take things really slow and iron out a firm friendship, but out of nowhere I'm catching these really fucking intense feelings that already feel like they go beyond just lust. I wasn't ready for any of this and it scares the shit out of me.
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>>24620463
That's why I added advice about preparing your heart for it. You're clearly in love.
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>>24620432
I stopped following club football about 5 years ago, I've rarely missed a match at World Cup/Euros since 2002 (... what a start huh). NT footy is very soulful and it makes me happy even when my team doesn't do great.
This Euro was pretty decent, a lot of teams showed pretty solid football and it was extremely memeful. I loved everything Chiellini did both game wise and memes wise.
Has to be up there with the 2004 one, watched it while on holiday in Greece.

I still watch some Champions League, Europe League and won't turn off tv if there's football on, but I haven't been good at keeping up with teams and shit. Lost a lot of interest in football after I moved away from home, don't hang out with the people I used to talk/watch football with.
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>>24620425
I mean. It did make me smile again for some reason. So really thank you. Is all this screaming not tiring you out?

>>24620404
Are you... Eating? Are you trying to activate my noise rage?! Because that does not do it.
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>>24620462
Hmm that will do. Are you airdropping my food or parachuting to make the delivery? Or if just a regular landing I can drive you back to NC in a road trip? Or I could help you hitch a train ride back?
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>>24620479
ooh, so you really are that demented a bitch that you find humor in my frustration
and you’re not even being subtle about it, you’re just playing the bitch now
I always did figure you were an apathetic bitch feigning empathy for the fashion of it.
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>>24620474
I'm the same way, but recently I started following football again. I realized that these may be the last years we get to witness Messi and Ronaldo, so I mostly watched their games and other big games in club football and NT football.
You kicked balls yourself or you were just a footy fan?
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>>24620487
We will road trip back. Do not tell my family I have been getting in to cars with internet strangers.

>>24620391
Maybe? Is it cost effective and comfortable?
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>>24620479
Yeh eating a sandwich from subway
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>>24620471
Well, shit. You might be right. Maybe it's time I admitted that to myself.
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>>24620504
Sounds fun! And don’t worry my lips are sealed, I have zero ulterior motives. You don’t either right? Right?
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>>24620510
Good, that's being mature. Boys deny what they feel out of fear. She will love a man.
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Doesn't this internet friend roleplaying get old to you? Don't you see it's kind of pathetic? Like if you were any degree of actual friends you'd be doing this somewhere else and sparing everyone from having to read it?
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>>24620503
Yeah, I'm going to try to watch a little club football next season for the same reason. I have a friend I watch some CL/EL with now, it helps.

>You kicked balls yourself or you were just a footy fan?
I played a lot at the park with friends and then joined a team in high school for a year, won a couple of trophies with them but never did anything serious beyond that.
My dad wasn't very into football so he never pushed me to watch it or play it.

What about you?
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>>24620534
I don’t do the rp stuff because it’s gay I’m too autistic to fit in but I don’t have friends in real life
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>>24619897
nta but ye my last couple laptops were Ideapads, not amazing ones for gaming but they are good machines that last a long time!
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>>24619930
Based
>>24619927
If you're gonna pick one, Wolf

>>24619933
Relatable, but nah I think it's better to be emotional than cold
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>>24620029
M, it's good for shitposting and Ran is queen
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>>24620556
I really appreciate the way you name your reaction images bb.
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>>24620087
>ps1 and gba emulations
Those were the days...

>>24620136
Kek I love this pic
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>>24620071
This is what I imagine all Americans are like

>>24620149
Watch Love Live and pay attention to Eli Ayase
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>>24620172
>Pringles and Coke
A man of culture
It's Cheetos and Fanta for me

>>24620307
u good bro?

>>24620391
Sounds based, send pix
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>>24620172
What kind of Pringles?
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>>24620358
>he rolls his eyes and goes check
>mutters "god I hate these fucking zombies" in his chin
wot, t-that's not very good customer service... he might've just been having a bad day or something but that's not on at all
>are all service industry people like this
Nah, I might be an asshole here but I'm syrupy sweet to customers (and most co-workers I've had are very nice)
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>>24620534
>Doesn't this internet friend roleplaying get old to you?
Nope

>>24620559
lool thank you, it's just so I know which is which...
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>>24620538
I played for fun and in a youth league which we were dogshit at, kek. I hated the pressure in league football with all the Chads around, I choked a lot, but scored one goal at least.
Wait, let me change something. 2008 Euro was the first tournament I actually followed, but I remember the 2006 WC final too.
>2006 final
>parents were still together
>they went out to dinner or some party
>mother's sister was babysitting us, she wanted to watch the final
>I was tired as shit
>suddenly hear yelling
>remember seeing Zidane headbutt Materazzi on tv
>I fall asleep kek
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>>24620595
We didn't have female league footy sadly. I did that tournament in high school. We won. Then they took away funding to the female football club lol.

I didn't even understand what happened when Zidane headbutted Materazzi, it took me 2 good minutes to grasp what the fuck I just saw lol
2006 was great football wise. Italy - Germany and Brazil - France are probably two of my favourite matches ever. The second goal from Italy and just Zidane performance in general was *chef kiss*.
Might just rewatch Brazil - France to be honest.
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>>24620617
>Might just rewatch Brazil - France to be honest.
Do it. I've watched older games too, even from the 70's. It gives you a great perspective on how the game has developed. I hold Maradona to a higher regard because of how they used to play murderball back then.
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Non autistic anons, give me some help!
Let's assume situation where a boy and a girl sit in a park on different benches.
They're alone
they see each other
they look at each other
boy smiles
she smiles
what are next steps fir the boy!?
pls respond fast before she leaves
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>>24620637
I did rewatch it a couple times already t b h, but has been a while. It's just a great match and as much as I dislike Zidane as a human being, he was amazing that match.

I wanted to watch this year's copa america too, didn't get to see it this year because I was too busy. Maybe over the weekend I'll binge.
Are you excited for the maradona cup? kek
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>>24620661
Establish eye contact a few more times. Make an excuse to talk to her.
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>>24620521
Hm. When you say it like that it sounds like you DO have ulterior motives. Please do not turn me in to bitch chili as your name suggests. You can do so to the girls who bullied me in high school though

>>24620534
I like ATOGA as it is. And you can probably get a question answered by the opposite sex easily so it is functioning as intended.
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>>24620661
>Non autistic anons
Can’t help you there
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>>24620664
>Are you excited for the maradona cup? kek
First time hearing about it lol. Are you a South American girl?
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>>24619839
as you wish faggot https://voca.ro/19brKTOo5gw0
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>>24620661
Be brave and say hi
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>>24620689
Italy and Argentina (as Euro and Copa winners) are supposed to be playing a match in Naples to honor Maradona. They said it'll be this fall or early winter.

>Are you a South American girl?
Nah, very Yuropoor, don't get excited.
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>>24620712
>Italy and Argentina (as Euro and Copa winners) are supposed to be playing a match in Naples to honor Maradona. They said it'll be this fall or early winter.
Oh wow, that's a great idea. I'm looking forward to it.
I'm Yuropoor too. I assumed you were South American because girls (at least in my country) aren't usually that much into football, even the ones who play don't really follow it.
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>>24620498
Okay you got me.

In reality I removed my goth stylings to make it harder to recognize me as an unfeeling man eating vampire. But that only made me worse. Every simp is as good as knuckle dragging meat to my feminine grinder. I aim not to break hearts but to cause suicides. Your frustration is the lipstick I put on to make out with Chad before your eyes. Your tears will be the only trophies I collect.
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>>24620582
why wouldn’t I be good?
I was just done being a piece of shit to another piece of shit
it’s not like I fucked asked to be spat on FUCK
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>>24620748
How will ATOGA ever recover?
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>>24620507
Cool! I like subway actually a lot. What kind?

>>24620661
I mean just come talk to me I think. Or just smile and walk up and say "hey I have no idea what to say but what's up?" Or just what ever comes to mind. But if she hesitates to communicate just accept that I think.
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>>24620748
Oh so wait, is
>>24619440
Correct?
also correct?
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>>24620748
shut the fuck up about the goth bullshit, don’t give a fuck
I’m going to ignore the shit attempt to be funny there with the whole simp shit
as for chad, I don’t really care what dick gets put in you
okay, then the tears remark...
pretty fucking lame and that’s about it I guess
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>>24620736
Not super common here either, but I once was a tomboy. Had only male friends until high school, if you didn't watch footy you couldn't fit in.
Still remember my friend being upset because I didn't know who Iker Casillas was. Summer 2001.

And we also played PES so much growing up.
Still, made me fall in love with the game.
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>>24620682
Don’t worry, I cannot eat chili remember?
Besides there’s hardly any meat on your bones and sweet flavoring doesn’t do in well with the other ingredients.
Now I can see about turning those bullies into chili for their friends and family to unknowingly eat. But I should advise against holding grudges from years long past, it’s not good for your mental health.
>>24620777
Weird how eating doesn’t trigger your misphonia. It really does for mine.
>>24620358
As one who’s worked that job he’s either having a rough day or just a lousy employee. I do try my best to look approachable, friendly, and confident. Though I’ve worked alongside plenty of shitty workers as well.
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>>24620778
Hah. No that was actually me. I am just kitten around

>>24620781
*Briefly removes my open mouth from Chad's irresistible lips*
Oh god... Honey that beta manlet is still screeching at me can you PLEASE go kick his ass already? Creeper...
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>>24620801
Loki? get the fuck outta here you green anamorphic cunt and keep your gay lips sealed
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>>24620794
Now it is the Dark Sweet arc. And no one is safe. Not even myself.

>>24620797
I am not actually holding a grudge against them! I am just kitten. And a lot of them have gone in bad directions after school and I kind of just want everything to be okay for them at this point.

Nope! My noise rage is only activated by one common but completely random noise that I think is just impossible to guess because it is so specific. I apologize for not saying what it is but that is best kept a secret.
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>>24620801
>implying that you’ll spend even another milisecond here the instant you get your 9/10 bf.
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>>24620793
>Still remember my friend being upset because I didn't know who Iker Casillas was. Summer 2001.
Casillas was considered elite at that time already? Damn. I remember the come up of Neuer from his time in Schalke. Bayern snatching him up wasn't a surprise.
Btw, why don't you like Zidane as a human being? I've watched his interviews and he seems like a humble guy or am I missing something? lol
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>>24620810
I am not sure I understand this comment. Either way I am done being Dark Sweet for now.

>>24620817
I will. Honestly I am kind of addicted to this site and I use ATOGA mainly. I can not be gotten rid of
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>>24620823
it’s to say that you’re an imposter
not that the other bitch is beyond this behavior, but you aren’t that bitch
you’re another stupid bitch pretending to be another bitch. bitches galore
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>>24620833
>you’re an imposter
Not this time.

>>24620837
Mav IS the best girl. Or is it Lydian?!

Just kidding. It was always you croc. You are the best girl.
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>>24620842
yes, now it’s become all too apparent
even when you first spoke to me, I can see your bread crumbs now
what boredom we must have to do this to each other
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>>24620822
He played for Real already but I don't think anyone really cared. My friend is just a cunt.
He wanted to be a goalie so he autistically listened to radio shows about football and read magazines to learn everything about goalkeepers.
He is 166 cm tall.

This euro cup had amazing goalkeeping. Donnarumma and Pickford obviously, but also Sommer and Schmeichel were great.

>Zidane
He's just too much of a angery boi for me.

Going to bed, footy friend. Have a good night, see you around.
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>>24620864
Good night, I should get some sleep too.
And for me, it was FIFA. Thanks to that game I became good at geography and flags kek.
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Dead thread?
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New thread,
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>>24621115
>>24621115
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>>24621058
I know myself and quite a few regulars are posting much less now. It's always the same people just saying the same non-productive things. I miss when there used to be some variety and even slightly less obvious circlejerking. Too many people who come here often enable it, now.
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When I'm pissed, I do pushups and bump my forehead to ground with every push up till I calm down.
Is this a turn off for women?



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