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>that quiet guy quiet at work who never speaks to anyone

What causes guys to become this?
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abuse
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>>24614163
Probably being young with lack of self confidence / experience in the field.
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>>24614163
dealing with retarded abusive female peers since age 6 and up
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>>24614163
Social anxiety and not being interviewed in their coworkers
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>>24614163
Porn taking away their charisma and energy
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>>24614174
>being interviewed in their coworkers
What?
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>>24614163
Social anxiety, the possible causes are many.
Source: that guy, don't judge me i'm doing my best.
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What do you want him to talk to you about? Like what do you want the quiet guy to say to you?
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>>24614163
Those dumbasses at my job only want to talk about themselves and their shitty, uninteresting lives while I'm trying to make money to feed myself. I get every single fucking human is denied their slice of whatever amount of attention their narcissism has taught them to crave, but I don't fucking care. I'm not there to pay attention to the other help, I'm there to give a shit about me.
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>>24614180
Probably meant to say "interested"
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>>24614163
Well when nobody cares to listen to you what is even worth to talk to anyone?
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>>24614163
This thread is about me, isn't it?
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>>24614163
That’s literally me but I’m a girl
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>>24614239
The difference is that for you it doesn't fucking matter. Congratulations on your easy life
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Rejection in my case. People do not like me when I act myself so I have to put on a mask around them. Staying out of their business is the best option to minimize pain.
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>>24614176
I don't watch porn and still don't have charisma
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>>24614189
>>24614461
These 2 for me.
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>>24614304
Everyone always asks me why I’m quiet and why I never say anything. They act like I’m an antisocial mute who hates people, which may or may not be true. I have it no different than you do, I promise.
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>>24614163
Probably a mix of social anxiety, low self esteem and maybe thinking that others at work are a bunch of retards and shouldn't waste their time having banal small talk and chit-chat gossiping.

Perhaps maybe he might want to be friends with people at work but nobody has reached out to him? Maybe he thinks you lot are giving him the cold shoulder for some reason, why should the impetus for the relationship be on automatically on him?
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>>24614163
That's mostly because modernity is quite poisonous, there's a reason why top execs have trusted female colleagues with them in the same room when they interview new female applicants. I've seen what happens when someone says the wrong 'thing' not me but well meaning men that told an off colour joke with out thinking about it because they assumed everyone there wasn't a retard. Why do they owe you any kind of social contact? Why do you think you're entitled to their time and effort?
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since i was young i was always surrounded by dickheads or people i plain had nothing in common with so i just dont talk to most people
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>>24614163
I am so out of tune with most people that when I give my real thoughts on almost anything people think I'm weird. Usually it's just "Haha, you're kind of odd" weird, which is fine, but it gets tiring. The alternative is only saying stuff that sounds normal and that's too phoney for me to even enjoy the conversation. Being quiet is just easier
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>>24614163
As someone like that myself, I'd say:
>Having most of your authority figures making you feel like a burden to others during childhood resulting in you wanting to avoid people to not annoy them
>Negative feedback to any event involving another person, making you avoid people so they don't annoy you
I feel like women rarely become like that because they get some validation from guys, which improves their self esteem, and their positivity towards social relationship
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>>24614503
>Everyone always asks me why I’m quiet and why I never say anything
That's what makes it different. As a guy, literally nobody cares, nobody will ask anything, nobody will try to make you leave your shell. If you don't speak to anyone, you can pass the whole year surrounded by people but without any human interaction.
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I don’t speak at work. I don’t like my job or the people I work with but I also just feel as though there’s no reason to speak when there’s nothing to be said.
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>>24614163
I'm there to do my job, not talk randomly. 90% of the time I have headphones on so I can concentrate.
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I'm like this in general. I've been reflecting on my life and it's definitely because
1. Any time I showed my friends something I had an interest in, they would always shit on me for it and not care. Even now with the few friends I still have it's kind of like that.
2. I was a sensitive kid and a worrywart when I was younger, hell even now I still kind of am. Any time something was bothering and I told my parents, they always told me there were worse things going on in the world.
3. Any time I wanted to do something, most people made it seem like it was a burden.

It's incredibly difficult for me to open up to others. I guess I just coped with it by being ok with becoming a shut-in and not caring about other people. I feel like I have social anxiety disorder too and would like to get it diagnosed one day.
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>>24614163
Nothing really, I just don't know what to talk about so I just work until the shift is over.
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>>24614163
I have never been rude to anyone, always calling others sir and ma'am, always smiling when approached and occasionally sending a photo on our group chat of something funny/unusual during work like a bird landing on my desk or singing stayin alive with the janitor.
Somehow still haven't spoke to half the office. If they don't talk to me it's not my fault.
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Whats with this expectation that you have be talkative with your coworkers? Your only there because you get paid. I'm a rather quiet person but I do talk with my friends, because they my friends obviously.But at work why would I EVER be interested in your personal life? Just why?
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I'm one of those quiet guys.
If I'm not talking to you it means I don't like you and don't want to talk with you.
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>>24614461
That's what the point of the mask is
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>>24614163
You pulling that face
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>>24614163
I am actually that dude and people always ask why I never say anything unless im prompted.

>I do not require a outlet to "let myself be me" because I already have one thanks to my friends and my girlfriend
>If I didn't put on my "work face" I would actually quite unprofessional, crass, and there are no benefits to revealing that to you
>I am there to work and sustain a income so I can take it home and do whatever I want with it
>I am not there to take you or any other co-worker home as a friend, acquaintance, or fuck buddy because I don't seek a relationship outside of work with you

I was told to not shit where you eat growing up and its been beneficial so far.
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>>24614190
Exactly. Some guys just want to do their work and leave. It's work, not a social club.
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>>24614163
Maybe he just wants to do his job and go home you fucking niggerfaggot
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Bullying at a young age, boomer parents who just get passive aggressive when you fail to reach a milestone, lack of any guidance or reference beyond a warped sense of self hatred.
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Whenever I try to branch out o get brushed off
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>>24616322
That meme be funnier if the breathing part was removed
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Leave me the fuck alone I'm only here for the money
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>>24614163
getting treated like shit for the way they look .even when they get fit,develop good "pERsOnaLity" and overall become a better human they still get treated like shit just for they way look.
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>>24614176
what do u mean by charisma?
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>>24614163
People like you.
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I think talking too much at work is risky.
I don't want to expose my private life to coworkers and avoid to create friendships with them.
They can betray you for a position or backstab you with the manager.

I just try to keep my conversations in relation with the job, even if I sometimes sound kind of boring and that I'm definitely not the most liked person in the company.
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>>24614163
Because I'm a fucking misanthrope? I can talk, I just dont give a shit what you say so I dont
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>>24614163
Sup op quiet guy here. For me personally, it's a number of factors.
1. I'm pretty busy at work, and there is no one to assist me with my duties. So I'm just trying to get shit done.
2. When I do speak, I tend to get talked over, and that irks me. So I tend to just let other people do the talking. By all means, if some one wants to talk, let them talk. I will just listen.
3. I don't want to get involved in people's drama. People are constantly talking about how they can't stand this person, so and so are bitches, these people are sleeping together and cheating on their spouses, etc. It doesn't really seem like this kind of gossip could benefit me, and is more likely to get me in trouble if it came back to the subjects of the gossip.
4. It makes people think I'm a good listener and some people value that.
5. I prefer to keep my work life and social/personal life separate.
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>>24614176
Nope
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>>24614163
I'm afraid they'll find out I'm a loser
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>>24614767
What if that is what I want?!clearly you want to be loved
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>>24614163
You know OP. If you banter with this person or generally talk to him from time to time regardless how he interacts back at you, he will eventually come out of his shell and slowly get more comfortable with his environment. Some people take time due to anxiety, maybe they're just shy or maybe they're being careful with what they say just incase they accidentally offend someone. You could have the archbishop of banterbury in your midst, you just have to be patient and let this individual get comfortable.
Either that or he genuinely separates his work and personal life and can't stand you or your other co-workers because you're all insufferable cunts. Who knows?
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>>24614163
See this is what I don't understand about the normalfags at my workplace. I'm at work to make money, not small talk. But if I were honest about this they'd think me rude, so instead I opt for being "that guy".
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Because nobody cares so why should I bother trying to talk to the normies?
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>>24614163
Not anxiety for me. Most people are straight up boring speaking about the same 5 things.
I’ll speak if I have something to say.
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I just don't like talking. I don't enjoy it no matter who it is.
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>>24614163
>What causes guys to become this?
nothing to say probably and many people talking too much.
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I am that person the reason i do it is:

Lack of social skills which leaves me with the choice of trying to talk to someone and causing a painful awkward situation or simply closing off and getting shit talked behind by everyone.
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>>24617517
>>24617542
>>24617559
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>>24617877
These*
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OP has no soul I'm guessing so this thread just ended that one guy's job.
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>>24617034
you only think you want it because you've never experienced it
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>>24614163
Some poeple just don't like social interaction. They will eventaully open up by neccesity or sperg out incontrolably out of a self-centered sense of isolaiton. In any case, be careful about tehm, nothing good comes from asocial men; they are either abusers without power, or autistic emotional timebombs.
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>>24614163
I'll assume your female.
You like him lmao
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Number 1: people like you who can't comprehend someone who's brain works different then theirs. Will you go try to talk to said person? No. Never
Number B:
People are tiring, draining. They drain me every interaction
Number 3:
There is social anxiety and there always had been. All this talk of porn that and parents this. Just always been that way, and nothing has helped so im just forced to suffer
Part 4:
Talk about what? The weather? Who cares. Politics? Normie tier. Do you really want to genuinely talk about things I'm interested in? No. No one cares about what I care about. Even if they did they already know so what would there be to discuss?
Number E:
Open mouth and speak work exhausting
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>>24615133
kek
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>>24614201
Bro I don't hate women but I hate the generic office women conversations, they never lead anywhere either in terms of network connections
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>>24614163
being treated as a subhuman from a young age. Not only being deprived of dignity in youth but having to settle with a gabrage 9-5 job surrounded by roastie normies like you who think everyone has to be happy
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>>24614163
Sometimes autism, sometimes high IQ. There's a fine line.
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Whenever I open my mouth I make a fool of myself
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To quote a Chinese proverb
>Remain silent and you will make a fortune.
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>>24614163
Why do you feel entitled to his conversation? Why do you project your female values onto him?
Check your white female privilege!
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>>24614163
In my case, I just have no will to talk to anyone because I just don't like talking!;
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>>24617034
Yes, like any human being ?
Do you try to be alone ?
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>What causes guys to become this?
Effectiveness. I'm coming to work to do my job. If you want to hang out, hit me up after work. I don't bite, unless I'm doing work that I'm being paid for. Your workplace is not a highschool break. Go do your job
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>>24614163
>I’m here to work not make friends
>These people are retarded and talk about trivial dumb shit that I have no interest in
>I just want to be left a lone
>Autopilot
>Work, go home and forget
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>>24614163
Acting like that is based, though.

This was me the first three weeks of working at Buffalo Wild Wings.

The more I spoke, the less control I had.

When I stayed quiet, it was funny because all I would was huff and puff, grunt and breathe extra heavily.

Kept those fuckers on their toes because they didn't know what to expect from me.

As far as jobs go, the less you talk, the more power you have.

The more you talk, people think they have you all figured out.

Being quiet at work is based unless you work construction.

Wouldn't want to be run over by a bulldozer.
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>>24614767
I tried it once to be fair, when I was new. Asked about the quiet guy's weekend and he gave me this dirty look, did an autistic face scrunch, and said it was none of my business. Never spoke to him again.
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>>24614239
I'm instantly interested in girls like this, I like the sense of mystery and rarity.
However I've found that they're often not easy to talk to. There's that one who's always trying to have awkward discussion with me but I have to start it and take care of it while she tells me somewhat random stuff with a mix of excitement and shyness.
I should ask her out.
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>What causes guys to become this?
lots of different reasons, all listed above but seeing as Im one of these people(my co-workers dont even know what my voice sounds like, on the rare occasion I do say something anyone who hears me assumes they must be imagining things and act like nothing occurred)
Fuck you, thats why. I hate interacting with you "people" because its the same shit over and over again, I dont give a shit about rap, sporstball, celebritys and the other mundane shit that falls from your mouths, I owe you nothing not even my communication. See you only ask this because people like me make you nervous/uneasy and I say good, hope you have a anxiety attack you fucking dirty minger.
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>>24615682
This guy gets it
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Why do you think you are a movie star and if no one is talking to you then you are an irrelevant bitch maybe because its true?
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>>24614163
being quiet is kinda nice. as a person you get to listen. not a lot of people are good at that :) might not be a guy but i don’t talk as i like to avoid as much work related drama as possible.
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>>24614163
Simply being a normal guy.
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>>24614163
A lifetime of ingratitude, missed opportunities, world-wearyness, constant grind for seemingly nothing.
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>>24622161
>this tbqh
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>>24615109
this
you'd be surprised by how many people dont talk simply because they don't want to
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After my partner died i went from charismatic chad to mute. I talk when talked to but i avoid eye contact and do not initiate conversation without forcing myself. I'd like to date but im a total mute.

I fear this may never change.
Help.
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>>24614176
>charisma
LIFE IS JUST LIKE BIDEO GAME!!!
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It's much weirder how people can be quiet and not really bothering anyone and straight up get bullied for it because someone's not getting enough attention.
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When I was little I was completely normal until around 12 years old. My parents divorced when I was five, when I was six my mother put me in a religious private school and every day there was endless humiliation. Everyone picked on me, I was constantly having to fight over every tiny little thing with every student and teacher. It was an endless nightmare. Arguments were settled by stating which side I agreed with, I was constantly used as an example to mock and belittle by teachers. Everyone there despised me.

Then I switched to a public school, puberty kicked in so suddenly I was taller than everyone, had a deep voice and was shaving at 13, but secretly I was terrified it would all start again so I kept to myself and tried to never draw attention. It worked. Girls thought it was mysterious I guess. I made friends, I went on dates, but underneath I was still the same awkward fuck up so eventually something would happen and I'd shut down.

Over the years I became Michigan J. Frog. If I'm comfortable with you, if I trust you, I never shut up. I will sperg for hours about any topic if I like you and I trust you. This I think was something of a disappointment to girls who approached the brooding, mysterious stranger who kept his answers brief and never volunteered a word of information.

I grew up... and every time I trusted someone they would betray me or hurt me in some way. I'd always end up feeling used, abandoned and unwanted.

It's been years since anyone's seen the frog that sings and dances. That only happens when I'm alone now.
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I basically wear a mask for every part of my life. At work my customer mask has higher pitched voice and I pretend to be interested in what they say and I give zero info about anything even remotely personal. It feels weird taking it off to my coworkers who are around me doing this all day and since I hate my job I end up associating them with work. I'm not interested in forming any kind of relationship with them that isn't strictly professional. Honestly I don't even know who I really am anymore
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>>24614163
Sick of people and would prefer to die alone (or become a cybernetically enhanced chaos god) than deal with other people's shit.
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Who cares? I leave them alone.
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Avoidant personality disorder can cause that
That's how I am. I'm constantly paranoid about what others think about me and if they judge me so I don't talk and avoid people.
On lunch break I eat outside in a secluded area. On smoke break I go behind the building
Whenever I have to stand next to my boss' desk and talk to him I feel like I'm fainting.
On Christmas party before pandemic we had to receive our secret santa gifts which I very reluctantly decided to participate it. I had to walk up to one of the managers in front of a crowd, receive my gift and take a picture. I almost fell over due to panic attack. I cried afterwards.
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>>24614163
Shockingly, either being very beta and anxious or very based and not wanting to engage in the typical workplace scuttlebutt and bitching.
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>>24623123
Also I forgot to add I got bullied a lot when I was a kid, emotionally abused by my mom and my ex.
With my last gf I literally withheld tons of information about me and especially my emotions so she never truly got to know me.
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>>24623123
aww
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>>24614163
childhood trauma and bullying
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i relate to a lot of the things anon has said but some others i have about being quite are
1) i just have nothing to say. head empty no thoughts.jpg
2) i have trouble hearing or speaking loudly and clearly enough to be heard. it's just extra effort any time i'm speaking ot someone not right next to me or where there's ambient sounds
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>>24614163
you woman
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>>24623625
Which anon?
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i have no personality
i have nothing to talk about
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>>24614503
>everyone always asks

so what do you say?
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tired, used to be talkative but been in a rut for awhile
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>>24617034
So does every single human being. Those who claim otherwise are just very deep into their defensive mechanism's negative thought feedback loops.
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OP is that guy and made this post. No female would say something like that as it would make her look bad to others.
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Maybe he just has nothing to say
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As a guy who was like this in school and I'm like this in college and will be like that in work. I can say that I don't feel I need more people In my life to be happy and when socialize with other people you will risk meeting some douchebags and always those motherfuckers will stay longer than the people you love.
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>>24614163
Hi, quiet guy at work who never speaks to anyone here. I'm trying to meet my deadline, please stop bothering me with menial shit and figure out your problems by yourself. Thanks.
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I go to work, do what you pay me to do, and clock out when I'm done. I'm not there to make friends and anything else is extra.
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>>24614163
I'm one of 'em, idgaf that's all. I come to work and get paid. If I want to socialize, I got friends and I know places to have fun at...
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>>24614167
this
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>>24624961
This pretty much, i don't get paid extra to do all the extra social shit, i get paid to do a task.
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>>24614176
honestly also this
But if I dont do my daily coomies I get massive anxiety
But it also kills my will to hunt girls/make friends

Life is suffering
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what the "extra social shit" people dont realize is that not everyone is an internet addict mf. So after work they dont go on 4chan to shipost, they're just... alone. So socializing at work is most of their socializing
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>>24614163
After being made fun of most of your life you just try to blend in and exist. You know opening your mouth just naturally makes you a target so you stop doing that. Pretty simple
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>>24623921
i use 'anon' in aggregate
i don't have disdain or contempt for my coworkers like many here, it's just taxing in many ways to socialize
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>>24627248
this I genuinely suck at talking. There's also this fear of coming out as a loser so I rather just not share too much information. The talks we'll have are going to be boring and the relationship between me and my co-workers is going to be work-related. Small-talks, no shit-talking(not into drama especially workplace drama). Other than that I really don't have much to say, like really, might be due to autism.
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I don’t even work lol
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>>24616322
>sleeping on the ceiling
It's over for floorcels
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talking women in any capacity beyond purely professional while on the job is dangerous territory. one slip up and they're going straight to hr
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I only talk about sports, the weather, or some entertainment gossip bullshit if I have to make small talk. Other than that I try to avoid going out of my way to talking to anyone
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>>24626033
>>24622507
It will never be the same
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>>24614163
Most men know people could be agents in something of a lie. A constant state at which is no longer trustworthy to follow. They know what it's like to be watched under surveillance
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>>24622793
>when I was six my mother put me in a religious private school and every day there was endless humiliation.
Literally me
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>>24614163
I'm here to work 8 hours, get paid and then GO HOME. I don't want to be your friend, I don't care about you, dumb office drama, just leave me alone
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>>24614163
I usually hate most of my normie coworkers.
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>>24627938
Same. This is why I left IT offices and went into shelf stocking.
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>>24614167
FPBP. Abuse isn't the only possible culprit but it's a good one. Some people turn off the ability to be vulnerable at all and ghost their way around other people - others just decide that job isn't the kind of place meant to be themselves and, depending on what it entails, that's fair. Work has power dynamics that affect your ability to afford food and shelter so it's generally best not to rock the boat unless you're seizing or creating opportunities to improve your position.

>just be yourself!
Part of being yourself in a healthy manner is to acknowledge your own boundaries. If you don't feel comfortable with your coworkers knowing that you listen to videogame OSTs while you do menial labor, it doesn't make you an insecure weirdo. Step out of your comfort zone when you feel it would improve you, not because you have to prove how secure you are by not giving a fuck what anybody thinks about you. Normal people give SOME fucks about what other people think.
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>>24622536
>t. retard with no charisma
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>>24614163
People annoy the shit out of me and I don’t want to talk to them. I have no interest in the people I work with because all they want to do is bitch about their lives and it’s exhausting
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>>24626046
not sure how much this applies in an age of social media but this is interesting and i didn't think of that
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>>24614189
How do you feel about people making an effort to talk to you/befriend you?
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>>24622161
Fuck. This is it. That sums up everything.
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>>24614163
For me it's due to apathy. I rarely feel emotions strong enough for me to recognize them. The most frequent emotion I experience is anger, which is caused by even the most polite and mundane interactions with other people. It makes me angry that other people exist, and even angrier that I have to participate in their social order to enjoy the luxuries of the modern world.
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Women who look at me like OP pic.
I know it's impossible for women to even contemplate what it is to be a socially challenged man, because you lack the experience, and almost all of you lack empathy.

I didn't choose any of the shit that happened to me in my childhood and adolescence. Shit was bad. Unironically if I told any of you the kinds of traumatic things I've experienced you would just laugh at me.

Luckily I've found good friends who can help me be socially valid, and believe me when I get there I will make you all feel like how I feel everyday.
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I have no reason to talk to anyone. Why would I?
Last time I talked to someone, they gave me the foulest look, like I'd shit on their shoes. I just won't bother.
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>>24614163
I've just always been quiet, not really from abuse or anything just I'm a quiet person and I don't like standing out.

Also I tend to say stupid things when I talk, a recently example
>girl at work starts talking to me about how stressed she is and how much she hates the job
>decide to be sympathetic and relate to her experiences so she knows she's not alone
>she seems happy with it
>boss is literally 5 feet away on the other side of the wall listening in
>later that day boss comes up
>hey anon... you good? you need help with anything?
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>>24614304
Of course it doesn't matter to you as a sexist person.
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>>24616811
It's funny, people muddle anxiety with this and feel slighted by it.
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I don’t bother speaking with people unless I know they are ok to talk to. You can usually pick up the vibe of a person and tell whether they’ll be alright or not.
Also am a actual sperg so wasting energy on people I don’t like is just going to make the job harder
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>>24614163
I'm a quiet guy at work that (almost) never talks to anyone.
I am that way because I've seen a shitload of people get fired for some of the dumbest shit imaginable and I would rather keep my acceptably paying job rather than maybe have a chance at banging the 3/10 women at work, or temporarily making some friends that will become angry once they learn I'm not a leftist or activist.

I don't shit where I eat, I try to be pleasant and nice to everyone at work (or avoid them if they are an ass) but I strive to keep my work life separate from my real life.

If I talked about my life, interests, hobbies, romantic pursuits, etc I would almost certainly be fired, ostracized, or irrationally feared almost immediately.

I go to work to make money and being my co-worker doesn't entitle you to know details about my life.
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>All these negatives.
I am an introvert, also you are my co workers not my friend.
I don't give a fuck about the weather or your kids, I just want to get my shit done and go home.
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>>24614163
That's me. I developed bad social anxiety from years of bullying and after I lost my last few friends from school, my ability to communicate with people deteriorated to the point that I can only give one word responses. On top of that I'm also really fucking weird from years of isolation. I just wish I had one person I was close to who wanted to spend time with me
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>>24629753
Not him but I appreciate the effort. But unfortunately I just get nervous, then my mind goes blank and I can't think of what to say.
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>>24614163
Fucking hell. I am that quiet guy and it’s mainly because i don’t want to be part of the polluted conversations that just tangle you up in peoples bullshit coming up to you talking about literally nothing basically being part of their habitual coping system.

I respect the occasional banter for some keks or basic greetings but stay the fuck away from me if you just want to leech attention.
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if people ask why I'm quiet I deadpan tell them I'm depressed and they usually shut up about it and don't bother bringing it up again
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>>24622536
Bro...
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>>24614163
I used to think I had social anxiety but I'm perfectly 'normal' with my frat friends. I just really have no interest talking to empty worms of human beings at work.
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>>24621627
based
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>>24614163
Working. Working causes guys to become this. You know how much time I have to spend on idle conversation when I'm actually trying to get shit done? Zero. Shut the fuck up and let me work. I'm here to collect a paycheck, not to listen to you blather on about the same Netflix series everyone else has already seen. You have a job, don't you? Go do it.

>What causes guys to become this?
Professionalism, dedication to work, and the fact that you can't have any interesting conversations in public where fuckwits will police what you say.
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>>24633005
This. Sometimes I am scared I will say nigger in front of my co-workers. Anyone else?
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>>24614163
No matter what we say it's objectionable and oppressive to someone somewhere who will be unconditionally listened to, and we're meant to be enthusiastic about masochism, collectivism but only in the context of theft and hating and envying anyone more successful, talented, or better looking than us rather than accepting them or even admiring them.
We're then told we should instead hate and reject them, while also nagging and demanding them to protect us, help us, give us money because "we need it" or "it's their Fair Share".
We're expected to embrace and celebrate the rights of the common man being used to further class wars and race wars and the acceptance of pedophiles and genderfreaks and the significant overlap therein, and we're told we're "on the wrong side of history" as if that were a moral point for disagreeing, when everyone knows history is written by the victors and it's actually an arrogant statement of "power".
Lastly we're then situationally told how ridiculous we are for taking any of this seriously when we're not being yelled at for not taking it seriously, and either way we're told to get a life or whatever.

Scorn is the final refuge of the brainless, and Marxist theory openly relies upon blaming the "enemy" (i.e. the actual workers in the existing culture) for what you yourself are doing, "to create confusion".
Speaking for myself, it has created little confusion, and much disgust, particularly in the people who embrace and embolden this nonsense for social acceptance.

It doesn't matter what I say either, because my peers are conditioned from a young age to reject any logic or information which does not tend towards ultra-gay ultra-hard-drug ultra-socialism, and instead direct and decide everything through the model of personal feelings and emotions and armchair psychiatry theories, assumptions, policies, and cliches.
Women especially are trained to assume they can sense emotional motivations accurately, when they cannot.
So why speak?
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>>24633085
>that wall of text
tl;dr ——> >>24633019
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<<24633114
fuck off gay retard namefag I do not care about your race war bullshit
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>>24633123
Amerimutt who doesn't know his mixed ancestry detected
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>>24633134
Germans who left between the world wars because they were sick of the incredible destructive autism and the persecution of Lutherans.
English who left not long after the Declaration of Independence because they were tired of the loicense lifestyle.
The rest is pretty similar but I won't even bother to mention it because European ancestries are a constant pattern of mixed blood and they only ever bothered recording patrilinear family lines to begin with, and that only for nobles generally, not that you'd know that being the revisionist smoothbrain you are.
Oh, except I'm approximately 1/128th Sioux.
Give me reparations, paleskin.
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I am that guy. I just don't see the point in talking to almost anyone. It's a waste of time. I don't have the same interests are others and even if we do I either find they aren't actually that deep into the hobby/interest as I am so the conversation peters out; or vice versa and I can't talk with them deeply about it. And in terms of talking to women, I just find it useless. They either aren't interested, are already taken, aren't interesting to talk with, or end up disliking me for some reason or other.

Basically all boils down to "why bother"? I just want to be left alone. If a girl was interested, she would talk to me and I'll talk back with them. I have no problem talking, I talk all the time with my friends. But it actually makes me suicidal when motherfuckers want to do the typical "small talk" kind of bullshit. Just say nothing and leave me alone.
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>>24614163
They hate nosy people like you
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>>24633166
>>24633123
I posted it because of your frankly racist /pol/ diatribe
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>>24614163
I don't know why he is quiet but I can tell you why I used to be extremely quiet.

I tend to not follow the crowd, I do the things that I actually find interesting. Most guys talk about sports, shoes, mainstream music and tv shows. And even when I find something in common with someone else they tend to be so incompetent that I rather not talk about.

Most of the time the people I talk to tend to have the same sense of humor, think exactly like me, do not follow the crowd.

If you don't follow the crowd it's going to be harder for you to connect with people. I can't force myself to like something just to fit in.
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>>24619568
You have to own that nigga. You have to own the fact you are a fool in order to weave your way into friendships, which is where you will improve your social skills.
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Niggas ITT will talk about how everyone around them has meaningless conversations but if you ever try open them up with an inquisitive question they don't have the social ability to explain what they are talking about or you'll follow up there answer with another question and receive a 'yea.'
Your main task next time is to keep a meaningless shit conversation going. Once you can do that you can become the person who asks the questions that are actually enjoyable.
These conversations don't just come from nothing you need to start talking about their kids, politics or what they did on the weekend. You will find that most people will not go further than what they did on the weekend and all you have to do is respect that and know that your relationship is based off of just talking about each others weekends.
Some great things have come from people with just me asking how their day is going.
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>>24614163
In my case it was horrific abuse.
It was much worse when I was a kid. At times, I forgot how to speak or formulate words entirely. Eye contact felt physically painful, like an electric shock. I had bizarre behavioral patterns too that I became ashamed of while growing up, leading me to suppress myself even more.
Being in school and then out in the workforce eventually trained me to be more comfortable talking to people. But being open and bubbly and communicative still doesn't come naturally like I see it does for others. Whether it's in a work setting or even in a group of friends, I tend to keep quiet to avoid drawing attention to myself. It doesn't help that I have somewhat non-normalfag interests.
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>>24614163
Depression and not deriving any enjoyment from the people they are forced to interact with in order to get a paycheck.
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>>24632297
Good. I like people like you most of the time. I'm fairly extraverted; however, I've spent a good deal of time being a quiet outsider, so I have an affinity for the quiet types. For me, I see that interaction as resting mostly on the initiator. If I strike up a conversation with you, I am going to do my best to make it enjoyable for both of us. Usually that looks like some open ended questions to get a feel for who you are, allow you to express yourself a get a bit more comfortable, mixed with some humor. The questions get me to get a feel for what kind of person you are, so I can tailor the jokes, further questions, and other small personality expressions to suit.

Cracking people open can be really fun. I also think that a good deal of intro/extraversion is just social fluency. If you aren't in good practice with socializing with new people or larger groups you probably won't feel great about doing it, and you won't get much reward when you do.
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>>24629182
Sounds based. Leave him alone.
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>>24614163
For almost 10 years, it seemed everyone in my life told me to "shut up". I didn't get much joy out of talking, so I just stopped.
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ITT selectively mute people
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>>24614163
Why would you be interested in what I had to say? You want me to tell you the lore of 2B2T, the oldest anarchy server in Minecraft? Because I will.
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>>24614163
For me it was restrictive parents who repeatedly humiliated my in public for not complying with overwelming restrictions, monitoring and micromanagement.
Eventually, I was too embarased to go out.
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>>24614173
This, based. Just started working as a programmer and the office administrator lady (who is around my age, mid 20s) makes a point to not greet me every morning when she walks by. She always greets everybody else. I never did anything wrong to her.

Is it really strange that I have no desire to interact with such people?
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>>24617034
You have attention available on a tap, that's why you don't want it.
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>>24626046
>the quiet guy who never talks has a more fulfilling social life with his bros on 4chan than the average normong
really made me think
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>>24615047
This
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>>24633439
Bro this is literally me
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>>24614163
As someone who's been working from home the last year and now is working back in the office this shit is so annoying. Like if I do talk it will almost always just be about work. I'm there to do my job and go home. I hate meaningless chatter about what you're having for lunch or where you went on your vacation. It's so annoying to listen to and I hate when people bother me.
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>>24614163
>that woman who complained to the boss that I don't talk with her at all
What's your issue sweety?
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Honestly most of the time when someone starts a "conversation" with me at work it's just an excuse for them to run their fucking mouth. The ratio of words I say to words they say is easily 1:100 most of the time. I don't talk to people at work because people only want to listen to their own fucking voices and don't actually give a shit about anything I have to say. I don't have the energy to listen to that bullshit all day.

Also people only want to talk about work and their kids. Fuck all that.
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A life time of having an overbearing mother doing all the speaking for you really does wonders for your social ability. I'm 22 now and she will still speak for me if I'm not quick enough.



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