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Talking to women is easy. I'll give you all the advice you need, just ask.
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so a colleague started texting me again after 3 months is this a sign she wants me and will ditch her bf
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>>22575142
How do I get my girlfriend to intiate BDSM tasks via text?
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>>22575146
Not necessarily, if possible post a screenshot of said texts and allow me to decipher her words.
>>22575154
Simply ask, or purposefully get caught watching BDSM porn, and once she goes into questioning mode, that's your chance.

My advice is not conventional but it is genuinely good advice
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>>22575168
How should I ask?

"Hey (name), I want you to give me slave tasks?"
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>>22575168
No I know she's just lonely due to covid
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>>22575174
No, ask her what her thoughts are on it. Simply ask, or go out and buy the basic materials required and slowly introduce them during sex. Because if she looks it up and doesnt like what she sees, that's a dead end, you'll have to carefully start introducing it I'm some manner, maybe mix it with your typical sexual activity. There's a multitude of guides online for yout browse, beginners guides, etc.
>>22575177
Just because a woman is lonely doesn't mean they'll straight up drop their ex. They would just do that. But in place of attention from her boyfriend she may reach out to a variety of old flames or various friends with whom she hasn't spoken to in a while just to fill that void left by her BF. My ex did this and she ended up cheating so you may have an opportunity, but she has to ask you to meet up, hang out, etc. Maybe build up to meeting up through text discussions. Dint just outright assume anything and dont read to far into what she says. Stay on your toes and be vigilant.
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>>22575142
How do I succeed on a date as a 22yo khv?
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>>22575205
Oh sorry, I should have told you we already have that BDSM aspect laid out. She's collared me and all that. She just isn't into sexting really.
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>>22575213
AYYY, I was in the same position at 23, 25 now, just dont let anybody know that you're a KHV. Just say that you've taken time off from the dating game to work on yourself. Ex fell for it hook line and sinker. Play it cool, wherever you guys decide to go, dont sit in a position in which you appear to be leaning over the table to hear her every word. Just sit back and dont cross your arms, it means being closed off. Dont talk about any stupid hobbies that may involve anime or other such niche topics. Let her drive the conversation and if she doesnt feel that interested in talking to you in the first place, then you were just being used as a free meal ticket. We've all had those.

>>22575215
Idk, I dont sext myself. I find it gay and derivative. It always seems cheesy and she'll screenshot them and show her friends if you type anything too far out. C'mon man.
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>>22575244
You honestly seem pretty normie.Peace be upon you. I'm out.
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I'm going to mirror my phone to discord for people to critique my dating profile and swiping. It will be a few hours before I start but any help from you pros would be a big help. I have gotten near zero results. The peeps already there are cool too.

CY9ZcK
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>>22575366
Post an image of the Profiel. I don't use discord. Too much tranny bullshit
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Posted in a different thread but I’ll post here too

>Text girl for the first time in several months
>Tells me she was excited to see I texted her
>Have decent conversation that eventually tapers off
>Haven’t heard from her in ~3 days

I was hoping to segue into asking her on a date but I’m not sure if her not responding to me is her ignoring me. It’s not as if she was giving me shitty one word responses to my texts, we had pretty thoughtful conversation. I also remember the last time I talked to her she similarly was pretty slow on responding. My question is should I text her again and to try and directly make plans with her or is this not worth the effort as she might not be interested?
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>>22575142
How do I make talking to boring and stupid holes less boring and stupid?
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>>22575142
I've kind of moved away from talking to women romantically at all. I'm not bad at it but after a while of the same boring conversations and tired tropes, then maybe a handy or a blowjob somewhere, It's boring. I don't love any of these people and they all seem so flat and one-dimensional, and at this point I'm too bored to put in effort anymore. How do I fix that?
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>>22575142
how big is ur pee pee and did u reach her throat
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Women are such fucking whores now. Who wants to have this for a mother.
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>>22575574
Dont go in with that mindset, as cliche as it is, you only get what you give (New Radicals), if you expect a dull convo, you'll create one. Go in talk politics, post memes, say something unexpected, thentypical small talk does t fly these days with women, its annoying but it's a completely different ball game now.
>>22575578
You don't, you see dating for the time waster it is. It's only worth pursuing if you feel like you want a family somewhere down the line, which I do. If you know that it's a time waster and se isnt really worth all the effort, then you can actually just be friends with women if you want. I've actually got some female friends that are actually chill to hang out with and get inebriated with. I wouldnt recommend you waste your time on something that you can already see through.
>>22575588
7.2 inches
>>22575647
Its funny, it's no different from what couples would do for decades if not hundreds of years ago. You can find Greek and roman wall writings that are literally sexts. These women have been mothers for sons, social media has just brought an uncomfortable limelight to thottery. Shut up.
>>22575562
If she was truly excited to see that you had texted her, she would've kept the communication alive. When women talk to a man they haven't talked to in a while, its usually because they're bored and you popped up. In the future dont text her at all, show value, if she wants you in any capacity then she has to reach out to you.
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Hey, was wondering if u had advice for a 20 y/o virgin who cant meet girls in college
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>>22575142
Is it even worth dating if I live at home at 24? I've got a job and I'm starting (and commuting to) grad school in August. My brother managed to find a girl who doesn't care that we live at home but she's kind of crazy and is extremely emotionally vulnerable
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>>22575766
What exactly is your situation or predicament? Anything that's preventing you besides the covid scam bullshit? Introvert? Weirdo? What is the general consensus on your being within your friend groups, family, etc?
>>22575782
Hey bro, I currently live at home as well. Times are tough at the moment and I wouldnt sweat it, just use this current societal reset to collect yourself and get your affairs in order. I wouldn't recommend worrying about women until you know you're in a good space both mentally and Monetarily. Dont worry about women. It's a waste of time these days anyway.
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>>22575722
>Dont go in with that mindset, as cliche as it is, you only get what you give (New Radicals), if you expect a dull convo, you'll create one. Go in talk politics, post memes, say something unexpected, thentypical small talk does t fly these days with women, its annoying but it's a completely different ball game now.
keked
nice one
if i'm the one carrying the conversation the entire time and she's just being a boring and stupid hole, how do i trick myself into being interested in a boring and stupid hole?
you realize there are hookup apps and the old fashioned whore? i don't have to clown myself for pussy
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>>22575142
I've literally girls following me around in clubs, girls asking about me after seeing me on friends Snapchat on multiple occasions, etc. I'm 6'3" 200lb, go to the gym religiously, am hardworking and intelligent.

Yet I'm 20 and have never had a gf. All I want is a qt, shy gf. But that type of girl will never approach a guy. How get gf.
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>>22575142
I'm under 5'8. is dating over for me?
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>>22575847
No, the biggest Chad I know is like 5'7" or some shit. Guy absolutely MOGGS me even though I'm way taller.
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>>22575817
>I wouldn't recommend worrying about women until you know you're in a good space both mentally and Monetarily. Dont worry about women. It's a waste of time these days anyway.

I think this is just a super nice way of saying 'no', but I do agree with what you're saying. Most women my age either bore me or annoy me. The ones that genuinely interest me either intimidate me, are out of my league, and/or taken. But you're right, I got grinding to do. Thanks.
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are you really so much of a narcissist that you get off on posting a thread like this? what a fucking tool
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>>22575872
how do they intimidate you? do you not have a good career?
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>>22575782
ummm ok? maybe thats what he deserves.
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>>22575847
I'm actually exactly 5'8". You're fine. Dont bring up your height often and dont wine about it, and ironically nobody will notice. Barbara Streisand Effect
>>22575840
You're outta my league, you can attract any hot thot at a club, but the you want the why introvert girl. I'm the same way and frankly it's a waiting game. You still have to go out and meat women, and frankly it's better to use these club sluts as practice girlfriends, that way once you meet that perfect shy chick at a bookstore , museum, or library, maybe even a yoga class, you wont fuck it up.
>>22575833
Nobody said clown yourself or simp out, but you clearly think the act of even attempting to be interesting at all is clowning yourself, stay single then you cynical pussy. Either find a way to be interesting and keep their attention without being a simp, or get nothing except calluses on your hand, get the fuck outta here.
>>22575884
No I'm not, I'm just sick of the typical:
>Just be yourself
>Go outside more
>Be confident
Bullshit advice, I'm offering real genuine advice. If you dont have a question for me then get the fuck outta my thread.
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>>22575907
>Nobody said clown yourself or simp out, but you clearly think the act of even attempting to be interesting at all is clowning yourself, stay single then you cynical pussy. Either find a way to be interesting and keep their attention without being a simp, or get nothing except calluses on your hand, get the fuck outta here.
all right nigger
after i get to work, i'm going to post screenshots of the last one's texts to show you how boring this bitch was and how stupid she was, she didn't even know what the word brunette meant
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>>22575142
talking to girls is easy
getting them to say yes to anything and follow through on it is a monumental task
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>>22575893
>do you not have a good career?

Is mostly this, but the fact that I live at home, I'm a porn addict, I've got extremely little sexual (and romantic, for that matter) experience, and I'm just an all around not that appealing dude. I guess I feel like most males my age should be a lot better of for the caliber of woman I lust after, and I suppose a lot of that is my own fault.

>>22575897
>maybe thats what he deserves.

What do you mean?
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>>22575917
Then shes a fucking retard. Stop talking to women off the short bus. Where are you meeting these literal brainlet women? Also how did you know I was black? Maybe you should be using your psychic abilities to start picking intelligent bitches.
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Girls hit me up all the time, but I don’t give them much interest these days. This unironically makes me more appealing, but overall it’s been awhile since I was stimulated by a girl intellectually. I’ve kinda checked out since Rona, but I mean what’s the answer? I plan on moving out of California in September. Need a fresh start. A chance to reinvent myself perhaps? Should I just accept all opportunities that I come across in future with girls I may not find worth a a hump?
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how do people even conversate
how are all you guys getting into conversations, even simps

I don't understand
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>work has 0 available women
>not in school
>don't drink so bars and clubs are out of the question
where the fuck am I supposed to meet women?
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>>22575847
You can date but you won't be sexually desirable. You know how when a 6'5 guy walks in to the room and all the womens heads turn? You will never get that. You're just there because she might think you're a good contributor. Even when you're married she will never give that sexual desire to you and will continue to drool over those other men.
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>>22576066
through friends(?)
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>>22576080
Why do I get the feeling you're self-projecting your insecurities onto others, shorty? Get a grip.
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>>22576080
I'm only 5'9 and height has generally never been an issue with me gettin laid. Play the cards you were dealt and stop being a little bitch.
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>>22575142
hot coworker thinks i should dump my gf
i know she's not dropping hints because she has a hot husband and they just had a cute babby together

should i listen to her?
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>>22576171
She give any reason?
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>>22576225
hot coworker basically thinks im putting too much work into my relationship with my gf and not getting enough in return
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>>22576280
And if you drop your gf for some hot slut who just had a baby what will you have to show for it? A dead relationship that wasnt ever going to go any further than a hot slut seeing how much control she could have over you without getting any pussy or even a makeout session. Dumping your gf because another woman told you to, is simp behavior and I raised you better than that. Besides if her husband found out, or she got tired of you, she could claim sexual harassment at work or any other female web of bullshit. Dont be a fucking dumbass. Just talk to your gf about inconsistent effort on her part, and if the convo leads to a break up, then so be it, but dont leave one female because another one told you to.
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both my gf and I are utterly autistic over text, don't know what to say or how to say it, waht should I do about this? we can talk for hours in person
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>>22576392
That's just fine, I'm the same way. I prefer phone calls and in person communication, texting is really just used to set up dates and plan events. Not much more than that. Everyone tries to build some sort of texting relationship these days. It's just not for everyone, dont sweat it.
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How should I set up my tindr/online dating profile?
Do I fill everything out possible or leave it pretty barebones and leave the rest to be discussed in person?
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>>22576428
Bare bones is the best, give them enough ti ask questions. Here's mine. And I'm talking to that chick in my images because of it. Plus I'm also good looking so that helps. If you're a sub 7, online dating is fucking rough
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>>22576437
So nothing about your profession I take it? I've been told I'm good looking by female friends, but I guess online dating will be the true judge of that.
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>>22576530
>online dating will be the true judge of that
I've been told I'm handsome by many people, and online dating isn't good judge of anything. see >>22576459
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>>22575647
>now
why do incels think this is a recent thing? never heard jokes about milkmen and simliar shit?
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Should I bother if a woman can't have kids in the future?

We get along well and I could see us being very long term except for this one issue
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>>22575142
Girl whom I like told me that we have no chance and now I’m trying to get over her. I’m in high school and a teenager (obviously), do? what I
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>>22576600
Some men would use this as an opportunity to get shredded and join a sport and make her catch FOMO, assuming you arent doing either one of these things. In other cases some would fuck her friends and give her some of the best dick ever and make the main chick feel stupid. Honestly the only way to get a female to even look at you again is if you find some solid say to improve yourself and make her feel like she's missing out. But the best option is to think about yourself and do as you please. You're a teenager, you have plenty ty of time and the rest of your life to find other women who are definitely better looking and more interesting than this current girl. It doesnt matter how perfect she is on this imaginary pedestal you've placed her on, it's just your imagination. Hang out with your bros, volunteer, go to a gun range, take up a physical activity or even start creating your own art to vent. Just dont go down the "I'm depressed now, so I'm going to huff, and ruin my life". I'm currently getting out of my depressive phase. What's helped me is producing incredibly mediocre music that has some sentimental value to me and provides some form of catharsis. Also cut her off completely as prevent any further emotional issues. ASAP.
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>>22576635
Thank you :)
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>>22576598
It depends, which one is more important to you in the long run? A stable relationship with the woman whom you love, or to complete your very reason for being placed on this earth. I'd prefer the latter, but if you dont think you could ever find a woman as good as her again, depending on your ages, then I'd stay with her and talk about your options, In vitro, adoption, etc. Its your choices you're the man in the relationship. Kids can be had over and over again, but a solid relationship is hard to come by these days.
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How do I meet women when I'm a 27 year old KHV with under developed social skills who works full time from home, have only a small social circle that has already all but settled down and doesn't go out anymore, and online dating apps make me so miserable that I start contemplating becoming an hero?

I feel hopeless and alone.
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>>22575142
How do I step up my flirting game? I'm constantly surrounded by beautiful women and I can strike up and carry on a conversation just fine, but I just cant seem to figure out how polarize them and get them to consider me as more than an acquaintance or friendship opportunity. It's been so long since I've been in the dating game I've forgotten how to do it. I'm not afraid of rejection but I need to figure out how to do it smoothly .
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>>22576729
Seconding this
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this is a gay couple kek
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>>22576729
comment the most expensive shit the bought and are wearing then go from there
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>>22575142
>anon gets lucky with whores and pretends he's a gigolo professional.
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>>22576113
That's not what projection is. This is a reality I've observed. Studies even show women value height very much. They only settle with short men but it's never their first pick. Ever hear a woman say she wants a short man or that she turned down a tall man because of his height? Get real.
>>22576127
5'9 is average. I never said you won't get a date. You will simply not be sexually desired.
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>>22575907
>Bullshit advice, I'm offering real genuine advice.
But you're not, you are just dropping useless platitudes too.
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>>22576701
You can't, you already lost, kys or cope.
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>>22576974
>Short men aren't sexually desired ever
Quit trolling you silly blackpiller.
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>>22577000
Absolutely incorrect, I post the typical advice cliches that are commonly tossed around, then I post my genuine anecdotal thoughts/experiences
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>>22577493
>Absolutely incorrect, I post the typical advice cliches that are commonly tossed around, then I post my genuine anecdotal thoughts/experiences.
>describes the typical 4chan /adv/ platitudes.
Based retard with no self-awareness.
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>>22577493
God you tripfags are such cancer
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want to take a girl out for dinner for the first time, are there any conventions I should be aware of
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>>22575142
There is this girl I was interested in last year, it was a bad period with my gf and I ended up leaving her because of this. In the mean time the girl I was interested in shows no interest so I give up on her. Fast forward a few months we discover we have things in common and we kinda become friends even if she knows Im still attracted to her in some level and I try not to show it. During quarantine she starts Sending me cute pictures and I fall for it. So basically she knows she has the power but won't concede anything and I have no game. Now Ive basically given up and when she last tried to make me come to her I asked if she was dtf. She got upset as I expected but she still ask for my attention from time to time. Last time she even dressed up very cute and showed where I work and I tried my best to not notice and compliment her.
So my question is how do I fuck her without being invested or how do I delete this person from my life
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Towards the end of june I made a "how to get a gf" thread on a national equivalent of 4chan, trough which I got in touch with a girl with whom I have been chatting since.

We have a quite significant age difference (I'm 27 and she's 18) and she was the one who first brought her age up, and asked if I was ok with dating her. Since I have no previous dating experience (I'm a kissless virgin), nor apparently does she, there isn't really an argument to be made in terms of differences in terms of the more experienced partner exploiting the less experienced one, so I didn't really see any problem with it.

At first I was however concerned that this was some sort of catfish thing, or a joke at my expense, or that she wanted to use me financially, but over time, as we have chatted, joked and even had lewd discussions I have begun to think that she might actually be sincere.
We haven't met yet, (she wants for us to meet during her autumn vacation), but despite of that I probably have developed a crush on her (and she at least says that she has a crush on me). We chat basically every day, and some days play video games together, and she has sent me pictures of herself in various clothing setups, as well as clothing she would like to buy. Sometimes she asks if I could buy her some of the things, but I think that she's just joking because she doesn't keep insisting on it when I reply to her "maybe after we start dating in real life". Still, I a lingering concern that she just wants a guy that she can financially utilize to her ends remains in my head, though, I do have a tendency towards paranoia.

My question is that are my emotions clouding my judgement or should I continue on with this thing?
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>>22578039
I would be very surprised if you aren't getting catfished
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>>22578039
Sounds catfish.
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>>22578055
>>22578088
Why would someone keep this up for so long tho?
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>>22578089
I think you're fine as long as you don't buy shit until you meet in real life
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>>22578039
Sounds like you're getting fucking scammed, guy. Have tried video calls or phone calls? These would atleast give "her" more credibility.
>>22578001
She's just leading you on, man. She knows that you have feelings and she's willing to fuck with them just to gain some attention. I'd recommend setting all of notifications to silent or mute for a while, see what happens. Make her put more effort into getting your attention. Stop falling g for her bait. And if you can't stop yourself, then you will have to delete info from.your phone, social media, everything.
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>>22578110
Thanks, I needed to hear this. I can't always avoid her right now but I'll delete her asap
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>>22578089
Entertainment.
Back when I was 16 I had a e-girl for 1 year, one day she broke with me because she got "bored".
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>>22576937
Don't forget him tripfagging. I really like that pic
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>>22578103
I have no intention of buying anything for her until we actually start dating for real.
I'm not a fucking simp.
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>>22578259
You're already a simp, falling hook line and sinker for a woman whom you've never met, never seen in motion, never heard voice, but you've fallen in love. Might as well start giving her half of your paycheck, SIMP
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>>22575142
What advice could you offer someone looking to enter the dating scene late in life. I've thinking since it's a pandemic and none of my friends go out anymore anyway I'd try OKC to get practice in talking to people. Or is it too late. I feel like most people my age are either settling down or have families already.
From my late teens through my twenties I focused more on working full time than having fun. Started working immediately after highschool so I didn't have the college experience either.
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>>22578402
It all depends on what you want out of a relationship, and since you've never been in one before, the first one isnt going to last long. That's unfortunately how things are, especially with women today. How old are you? Do you have a good paying job? Any other details you can through out so I can help you better?
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>>22575142
My profession requires me to maintain pristine physical health and fitness. We are tested twice a year for all kinds of shit to include some STDs, and I fear one fuckup could lead to a medical snafu that could eventually cost me my job.

I love my work and wouldn't consider leaving. Shitting where I eat is not an option either. How would I go about persuading a woman to get tested beforehand and to stress how important it is for her to be clean? In my recent experiences its either turned her off entirely or made things weird
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>>22575244
>AYYY, I was in the same position at 23, 25 now, just dont let anybody know that you're a KHV
Thanks for the tips my man, I mean it's also true that I've taken quite a break from dating to focus on my own shit do wouldn't be a lie. Thanks for the other tips, yeah I've a bad habit of crossing my arms so should try do that less. Luckily I've always split with the other person on dates (except rich lawyer on a few dates who insisted on paying). My main issue desu is escalating, I guess cause of lack of experience and dumb anxiety I get too shy to do it. Any tips there?
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>>22578425
>depends on what you want out of a relationship
Not t sure honestly. Dating or something long term. Not into hook ups or ons.

>How old are you? Do you have a good paying job? Any other details you can through out so I can help you better?
I'm 30, my job isn't anything to glamorous but it pays enough. It's full time 630am to 3pm. I have an apartment. My family owns the building it's I'm but I pay the full price. It's this weird legal thing with how the house is illegal unless a family member lived in the apartment. I make around 45-50k before taxes. I live within the five Burroughs of NYC. No car. I'm taller than average and fitting into one is uncomfortable at best. I have some hobbies, I'm in a wargaming/ modelling club with my friends, I used to write fiction but it's been a few years.
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>>22578497
You're only getting anxiety because you've been building up this date or night out as some cosmic event in your mind, so you begin to worry about whether or not they like you, if you've done something wrong to upset them, etc. Just stop thinking about the date, relax yourself and instead of wondering if they'll like you, wonder if you'll like them. It's a psychological trick. I use to be in that position but after going on enough shitty dates, I think to myself "couldn't be as bad as my last one". That immediately calms my nerves.
>>22578448
You wont like my answer, if you making sure your job longevity and physical health stays intact turns off some women, then so be it. Women who get turned off by being asked that know that they probably have or had something in the past. You've done nothing wrong and your job has made dating a bit difficult. Is there another departmentor something at your job that would allow you to be a little bit more carefree about these things? I just wonder what you do for a living? You a model?
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>>22578402
You're fucked.
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>>22578651
No he's not, there are options for him, you cynical faggot
>>22578599
You're actually in fairly good position to meet women, you take part in wargaming, which I'll assume is either male dominated or the women that take part in these games are the stereotypical fat slob nerds. You have a fairly well paying job, only issue is your location. That's a rough one, and I'll assume you dont like black/ghetto women. Frankly they have some mediocre pussy and ton of mental instabilities so I wouldnt recommend it. But like I suggested to someone else, get a practice gf, you already have one nerdy interest, would it really be that had for you to expand into tabletop gaming? DnD? There are large groups with plenty of attractive women. Or date one of the hood hos and provide for her and see what you get out of it. Like I said to you earlier, the first relationship always bombs because you have no clue what you're doing. Reading books and watching movies or videos on this topic wont save you, its purely a learning experience. So pick a female around you that isn't totally out of your league but you still find her attractive. Date her and once your sick of her, drop it. Since you're 30 thisnis your best bet as a women want men who know what they're doing sexually by that age, unless of course you aim for nearly 20s women and highscoolers, which some men your age purposefully do because they've taken to long to start dating. You're really worrying about something inconsequential.
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>>22578695
>No he's not, there are options for him, you cynical faggot.
Reality called, saids you should stop using his jokes.
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So, two of my exes decided to text me this year out of the blue.

One, the one I had a nasty breakup (nasty for me, she pretty much said how she wants me out of her life because "I will always be the one who got away for you, and I don't want you to suffer" spiel and "I was in this relationship to forget my ex") asked me how I was doing after all this time, and if I'm feeling better in the new city I moved to. Didn't answer her.

The second one was a cleaner breakup, she says how distance is the problem and how she doesn't want to continue a long distance relationship ("there is no chemistry, if we were closer maybe there would be"). We kept talking for a while after that, but I eventually cut all communication with her as well. She texted me out of the blue with "hey, did you know that this guy you really like to listen to was visiting" and then a link to a podcast of his. I gave her a "yeah, I know, thanks" answer and nothing more.

Did I do the right thing? Were they just bored and wanted to pass the time?
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>>22578784
Quarantine has people stuck with their thoughts and reflecting on their past and on people they haven't talked to in a while. Sounds like both girls genuinely care about you, but didn't think a relationship was good to continue. They want to make sure you're okay.
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>>22578784
You were absolutely correct. Neither one of them attempted reignite the relationship or a friendship. They were bored and just wanted to shoot the shit, maybe their current relationships are in a dead zone, we'll never know. I've been there bro, it gets your heart racing and your a million different chess moves running through your brain, all for nothing. here take a hit.
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>>22576080
>You know how when a 6'5 guy walks in to the room and all the womens heads turn?
This does not happen.
>t.6'5 guy
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>>22578695
women that take part in these games are the stereotypical fat slob nerds
The stereotype exists for a reason but you'd be surprised. The scene has kinda shrunk over the years after the local store closed. It's mostly close friends and friends of friends. We also do table too and dnd.
>women want men who know what they're doing sexually by that age
Might be fucked there. Still got my v card. I had to friends that I used to go down on but that was a long time ago.
> first relationship always bombs because you have no clue what you're doing.
I've heard this before. It's been holding me back I hate to admit "why out work into something that's doomed to fail. I'm to old for that"
I also wanted to add I don't have trouble talking to women, but I'm absolutely terrible at approaching some one. I feel like a creep everytime. Thought maybe it wouldn't be so bad online.
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I'm not the pretiest guy, but I always want to bang the smoking hot ones. With my lack of skills due to being a weeb who've always prioritized weeb shit due to being a social outcast since my younger years, what is a good way to start a conversation?
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>>22578836
> Sounds like both girls genuinely care about you
> They want to make sure you're okay
Thanks anon, but that's something I doubt. Maybe I'm just bitter, dunno, but the first girl got into a relationship not even a month after ditching me (she said to my face that I was her safety blanket), and the second one was only interested in me while we were hitting various events, meaning that I was there to pass the time.

>>22578843
Yeah, that's what I thought. Thanks for confirming it.

It's dead and done, and it should stay that way.
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>>22579016
First of all, get your shit together, your little description tells me that you have no self esteem or self respect, work on yourself, get some social hobbies and learn how to be a social butterfly first. You've just told me that you've spent the entirety of your life submerged within weeb shit. Undo that first. How do you dress, do women ever hit on you, how do others perceive you?
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>>22579193
I dress pretty normally to at least go in social events not looking like a fool, usually a brand T-shirt + jeans. I've been hit sometimes in my younger days by now old friends and colleagues, but the dumbass at the time always said to himself he was not ready. Nowadays I don't think anyone percieves me to be someone bad since I'm generally on the quiet side, in school I was always generalized to be the weird one in the class tho.
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>>22575647
Fucking this. Glad I married decades ago when there were still non-whores out there. When I was in my twenties only the nastiest most undatable sluts would be this blatant about it. You zoomers have no idea what you missed.
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>>22576701
Probably should try to settle for like a 3/10 single mom type.
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>>22577164
I'm not trolling. When did you ever hear a woman say she likes short men? It's not sexually desirable.
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How do i meet girls? Generally i go to collage and just mind my own business, but after 3 years i barely even know people, there are almost no woman on my career. Where can i meet girls? I been using tinder with some success but i don't think thats the type of woman i wanna spend my time on.
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I want to reach out to my ex in hopes of reconciliation but I'm on the fence about it. We broke up 16 months ago (She instigated the breakup though we ended the relationship mutually) and havent said anything to each other for roughly 8 months now. We did stay in regular contact up until that point but I suspect that she's just waiting for me to reach out

Now I'm not fussed if she decides to respond negatively, ignore me or anything along those lines, which I highly doubt she would do anyway, but I am wondering whether it's a good idea or not. If I've it left it too long. Or whether to leave it altogether until she decides to reach out again
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>>22580494
masturbate in the subway
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>>22580862
Move on.
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>>22578448
what kind of girls are you seeing that are likely to be sexually diseased
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I have deeply engrained sex-related PTSD from repeated incidents female on male sexual assault and harassment across my childhood through adolescence. Therapy has not really made it any easier to date or have sex. Taking the "just put yourself out there," approach backfires every single time and really only further entrenches my issues. I seem to really need to have some already well established trust and communication with someone to not keep constantly going into the same pitfalls over and over again?
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I've been dating a girl I see around almost every day (same college) and I'm usually very approachable but some days I just forget how to talk... it probably confuses her because I can seem like a different person whether we're in private or with our mutual friends, what can I do about this?
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>>22576729
Bumping for an answer
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>>22575142
Haven't read this thread and I won't but obviously OP's pic is a catfishing tranny cause women don't text like that for a literally who so therefore OP is a faggot so fuck off
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>>22581406
Well obviously the OP hadn't answered in a long ass time he just let his thread to on therefore he WAS A MASSIVE LYING FAGGOT so good job there, /thread closed
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>>22575142
How do you meet women even?
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>>22575142
should i ask out this girl at work?
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I miss her but we're still friends, I guess I just miss the physically intimate part of the relationship
It's been five months since I moved back home because of COVID and I really dont know when I'll see other women again so I often think about the 'dating-exclusively-but-let's-not-use-official-labels' thing we had
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>>22581406
Wrong, I work two jobs, forgive me for needing to work and sleep. Also I just finished talking to this chick on google duo. I have no reason to lie about something so fucking trivial. This is a real woman and I'd happily post her image and real proof but seeing as how quickly the retards on this site can pinpoint locations and gather info, I wouldnt want to dox either her or myself.
>>22576729
Sorry for missing this one, when you talk to these women, do you give in to their talking points or put up some sort of jokingly argumentative attitude. They prefer the latter, women hate yes men (Fuck Benny and Fuck the NCR). When they talk to you how do you typically respond? Are you staring at them waiting for their every word or are you more nonchalant?
>>22580494
Are you still in college? See if you can find a college party and get in. Have a good time. Women can sense when a man is desperate for them. They can fucking pinpoint you in a crowd. Are there any hobbies that you like to take part in, things that allow you to meet others, regardless of gender. If you're able to make some good male friends, then that may potentially lead to a female friend, or even a hot sister or something. Did you actually just isolate yourself in college of all places? The whole point of college is to network with other students because just a degree alone wont do you a goddamn thing unless it's in stem.
>>22580862
I've been there with my most recent ex. If she truly wanted your presence in her life, then she'd contact you herself. Dont be that "clingy ex" that she'll mock in her thot groupchat.
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>>22581652
Even I still struggle with this one. This is the best advice I can give you.
Watch all 7 videos in this playlist .
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGeiBEiDRZWSPMrqZwjmz5VW6dVIiYHC7
>>22581747
I wouldnt recommend shitting where you eat, but give me some more details, what do you like about her, what type of job is it. How do others perceive you?
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>>22581791
she's pretty badass. she toured in a band and now we work together at a lab (she's a scientist, i work shipping/receiving). we've been chatting up a lot lately. uh...People like me at my job? I just got a raise and a promotion. idk if that answers your question.
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Tips for dating as a high-functioning autist? My last GF cheated on me when we had been together for a year because she wanted more sex but didn't feel like she could talk to me about it? Shit I was 'in a mood' because I had lost the best job I ever had due to corona...

I've wanted to go to the gym since breaking up with her but, kinda hard during these times.

Well, I didn't have much luck getting dates before that and haven't had any since.
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>>22581816
Yes, that's good. I only asked because if you're perceived as the weirdo at work then this would make things difficult, but you've clearly got an edge over the competition. What I'd recommend at this point is to ask if she'd be interested in going out to a bar or some place that would jive with her Rock star Sensibilities.
>>22581829
Dont worry guy, we've all been in relationships with a whore with a crazy high libido that wanted more sex than we wanted to provide. She cheated on me for the same reasons, I hope it wasnt my ex. Its a good learning experience. I've said this a few times already, but I highly recommend working on yourself and your hobbies, maybe even taking on some new ones, these times are tough for everyone looking for relationships or even looking for a reason to keep existing. But you'll be fine. Dont contact her at all, if she wants to try to work things out or reignite something, then let her reach out to you, she has to put the work in. For now, act like she doesnt exist, and do whatever the fuck you want. Also the fact that she didnt attempt to empathize with your current emotional situation after losing a job you loved, proces that she was just looking for an out and was probably cheating way before. Like my fucking whore ex. Like I said this is a learning experience. I took notes in my phone of all the changes in her personality and treatment towards me before the relationship ended and recognized certain red flags that I will stay on the lookout for from now on. Since you two just broke up recently, it'll take about half the time of your relationship to heal, you dated for a year, take six months to work on yourself and build yourself into a better man. Also take note of any peculiarities you have when you had dated women in the past, or Whenever you've talked to women, and try to pave them out. It'll take time before you're ready, sorry I've rambled I'm just tired.
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talking is fine
but how do I find the anime loving qt to play vidya wityh
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>>22575142
How do I initiate a conversation on tinder?
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I (22, M) have just started seeing a girl (19, F), but in the bedroom I’ve noticed she kind of just starfishes. She’s had sex before but has never had an orgasm in her life and doesn’t seem to know what she likes, how do I help her?
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>>22575722
>n-word
OP are you Black
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>>22583073
Literally don't, all of the dates I've gotten were from women messaging me. Think about it. How many horny men do you think are flooding these girl's DMs with bullshit coom messages? You'll unironically stick out more if you dont filter yourself out as an undesirable by sending a shitty message. But the message that would always give me a laughing or interested response was this:
>I want to paint you green, and spank you like a disobedient Avocado.
Stole that from Bodybuilder Forums, shit works.
>>22583081
Do you have sex with her, or do you FUCK her? There's a big difference. Bend that ass over, slap those cheeks and pull her hair back while calling her an unloved whore and daddy's little disappointment. If she was stargishing then she wasnt interested in the sex at all. Is she even wet bro? Do you gargle on her pussy juices bro? Probably not. Do you just fuck her in missionary position? Probably. FUCK HER, and FUCK HER LONG AND DEEP.
>>22582919
You dont, they're either mega introverts or con attending, cosplaying sluts. Dont waste your time u less you've met at a Library, Local Book Shop, or a Vinyl Record Store.
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>>22583140
Half Black/Rican
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>>22583148
>You dont
So I must scour bookstores in the manga section and harrass girls in it?
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OP, what would you tell to this guy :
>>22562589
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>>22583532
Could you tell me what it said. I assume it 404d.
>>22583171
Dont harass them. If you see them looking up a manga or something, even if you know what it is, go up to her and ask her what it is because, play coy and say that you like the art on the cover, "Could you tell me what that is?", start a simple conversation about your anime taste, and dont get too elitist because most women dont really like "anime" they like "ANIME":
>Yaoi trash
>Mainstream trash
>Cooking trash
>Main character is literally satan/satan's son trash
If she likes One Piece, Fist of the North Star, and Berserk, then she's a keeper and plant your seed ASAP.
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>>22583798
>Main character is literally satan/satan's son trash
Beelzebub was one of the funniest anime I ever watched fuck you.
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Should i ask the girl i'm talking and i really like if there is something between us or could be something between us or dont tell her nothing and move one because to being honest i feel like she start to ignore me and let me down recently

At the being everything looks fine we flirt with each other and each one look for each one but with the time i feel she is just losing interest in me so i wonder it if there is something i can do or just move on?
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How do i get a better personality/less boring life for normies, like the only thing i do is browsing in
4chan?
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>>22584194
Say the things that you would have liked to hear if you were in the other person's shoes. This is different from "say what you think is right".

For example, someone is upset for a stupid/insignificant: you want to say "get over it already", because it would obviously be the right thing to do. However, you're gonna say "it's okay to be upset", because the other person (mistakenly) thinks their reason is important and would you have liked someone to tell you "get over it" if you thought it's important? Fuck no.

See, like me, instead of telling you to "learn some goddamn empathy, you fucking autistic automaton", I'm patiently explaining with an example and some humor at the end of the post.
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>>22575142
What if I want to find a modest girl that would never have a conversation like your pic with a stranger?
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>match with girl
>text each other
>she doesn't seem to not be into it
>but at the same time asks no questions about me, it's always a one way conversation
>her answers aren't vague, but she always cuts off around the afternoon and comes back late at night or next day
>do that for over a week because not sure what she wants from me because she puts no effort into talking to me
>don't text for one day (a little longer than she ditches me for)
>ghosts me for nearly a week now
Did I go wrong somewhere? why did it feel one sided if she texted for that long? and why ditch after I don't text for about the same time she doesn't? I don't think there was ever any interest from her but why bother messaging for those days then?
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>>22585109
Im in the same boat as you. I feel like conversations are one sided and no interest is shown by her. Im also not sure how to go about asking her on a date.
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>>22583949
Nah, I've watched that and it was trash. Yondemasu Yo Azazel San, now that was only one of two anime to make me laugh, the other was Gyagu Manga Biyori. Get some taste. And then maybe you'll get some pussy.
>>22584190
Cut ti the chase if you feel like she's starting to lose interest, something along the lines of, Are you wasting my time or not, put her on the defensive. Dont ask if she sees anything in you, it makes you seem meek. Is she wasting your time, or dies she see a relationship. Easy
If the answer she gives is unsatisfactory, cut her off and watch her crawl back in a few months if she actually gave a shit about you, if she doesnt, then you did the right thing.
>>22584194
I use to be that way, but exploring 4chan since I was 11 has actually given me way more interests, I like /3/, /ic/, /mu/, also go on /t/ and see if there's anything there that you'd be interested in. Trust me, you can use 4chan in a better way, and may allah forgive me for uttering this word, but any interests you have can also be supplemented by deditated weddit subs.
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>>22583949
As Ms Beezlebub Likes It?
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>>22584714
Hang around mentally defunct women or women stuck in cults. If a female likes you enough she'll talk to you in a slutty manner. You very clearly have "standards", meaning anything non virginal is tainted filth. I use to think like you, I was depressed and lonely for quite some time, but then I realized that everything isnt about me. Dont be such a fucking prude, you're an adult, fucking act like one. These are the majority types of women out there. Dating is fucking hard enough as it is, and then you're only closing yourself off to maybe less than 13 percent of actual women, like, c'mon dude.
>>22585109
I've been there. Sometimes they find you attractive on the app, but get bored from talking to you, so they lose interest and frankly if you're talking to women on tinder then you already have the cards stacked against you, she can just drop you and find someone hotter that makes her pussy feel tingly. You didnt do anything wrong. But dating in today's world is absolutely fucked. Once you realized that she wasn't acting interested in you, you should've immediately called her out on it
>Are you interested in meeting up, or are you just wasting my time
What are some examples of your convos?
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>>22575142
What do I even talk about with women? I've heard all the vague just be funny and flirty but I loterally don't have a single clue what to say when I talk to women. Just tell me what lines to say or aomething
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Hmm. Is talking to an ex-coworker who got let go recently a good idea? I quite liked her... I think she liked me as people in my office said she was flirting with me? We have each other's phone numbers and we texted about 4 days ago. She could have a boyfriend but idk...
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>>22575847
I'm 5'10 and have a third date this week with a 6'0 girl who seems way out of my league. Initially she gave me the height shit test "oh sorry about wearing my heels" to which I replied "oh why is that? it doesn't matter to me". I reckon you can punch a couple inches above your height if you're confident and never let them know it's an insecurity. It is a disadvantage so you should make up for it in ambitions, confidence, flirting etc.

Now a question for others:
The second date we had was dinner followed by going back to my hotel for 'Netflix'. We made out and touched each other a lot but decided it wouldn't be that classy to have sex so soon and she left her earrings behind when leaving.

My living situation is a bit unusual in that I broke up three months ago with me ex but still co-own a house with said ex. One of us rents a hotel/Airbnb when the other needs the house exclusively. I've explained all this to my date.

Any ideas/tips for the third date? It'll likely be on a week night. Should I do drinks/dinner again or invite her over to my house or a hotel. Should I cook something?
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>>22585359
Ambitions. Educational background. Travels. Tastes in food, music etc. You're both people and you should both have stories to tell unless you're completely full.
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>>22585265
the way I saw it was that if she has no interest in me, then I'm not gonna chase after her and push for a date. In my case she also lived about 50 miles away so I'd have to get the train to see her and it already wasn't looking good so I'd be stuck there with her and have things not work out the entire day, or just be boring af with me having to come up with shit to do, didn't seem appealing to me.

>>22585289
>you should've immediately called her out on it
she kept the same exact tone from the first time we texted. Like formal almost, and affirmative but never inquiring about anything if I didn't hint at it with vague comment about something to get her curious, but it went like that for some time and I thought she just needs time to "open up" but she didn't and then she ditched. I thought about calling her out but it came off weird in my head, like even if she said she'd want to go out, i'd feel like I got it aggressively and not naturally like I would if I met her irl to begin with. Texting isn't my thing but it's all I got, no women around otherwise and I do try to put myself out there, just not interested in your typical stacy you meet at a club and that's like 80% of the women where I live.
>What are some examples of your convos?
I commented on the music in her bio and said that if she like this band she could check out this other one. She did and said "I listened to them and I liked them" again, very formal sort all the way through. We'd talk about books she's reading, and it was pretty much me finding out things about her and the only way for her to get to know me is if I said it relating to what she answered. She wouldn't ask me so after i'd give her a chance to ask, and she didn't, I'd relate to it in the comment about her interest. Things like that.
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>>22585376
If so start by doing a simple checkup and ask if she wants a free at home Coivd Mammogram. Lol. But really, get into a joking mood with her if possible, and go from there
>>22585390
Clearly you're within the upper echelons, so why come to a nigger for advice? Interesting. You should've fucker her, hard and deep, that's what hotel rooms are for. But next date, take her to a nice classy restaurant and then make her your slut afterwards, simple as. Like c'mon man, you clearly know what you're doing. And after fucking the literal brains outta this hot amazonian bitch, say some corny shit like "did you leave these on purpose" And then give her back those earrings. I'm telling you bro. DO IT.
>>22585359
Ignore that faggot, start off by asking her questions about herself and then poke fun at some of things she's saying and then mention something from your personal life, dont be a simp and dont respond immediately and be too over eager, its a turn off. Ask to video call if you want to, some women actually feel closer to the person they're talking to if there's face to face interaction. Ask her what her favorite musical artists and regardless of who it is, make a shocked face and say "Like Really, how could it not Be Coldplay?", they always laugh because Coldplay is seen as a joke now. Or in place of them any shitty band or even your favorite artist. This stupid little technique only works on video call. But it's always successful. It provides a cheap laugh for you, and women will like you more if you get them giggling. Easiest way in. It sounds fucking gay, I know. Buts it's never steered me wrong.
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>>22585599
>Clearly you're within the upper echelons,

Maybe but I mostly for there following dating tips and now I'm a bit out of my depth.
I'm a bit anxious I will fuck something up like I've done before and she won't like the sex or she will see me as a short term option. The sex I had with me ex is totally different to most women since she came relatively easily. Condoms take a lot of the fun out of it and I tend to go soft.
I guess I'll just go down on her for ages so she's happy.
Thanks for the advice, I'll book a fancy restaurant and hotel room.
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>>22575142
How do you go from having no contact with a girl to having a stable relationship with one? I have an old friend who I've been thinking about talking with again, but we haven't seen or talked with each other in a good while and I'm not sure how I could possibly initiate a conversation on my end without looking awkward. Should I keep looking for a way to get back in touch with her or am I better off just searching for someone else?
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>>22575142

So I added some girl on Facebook in my town, went to same school had mutual friends. Texted her, flirted, she flirted back. We met up, talked for awhile, next day invite her to hangout. We talk for a few hours, long hug. Next day she invites me, we cuddle in the back seat listening to her music. I kissed her on the cheek, and asked to kiss her on the lips (this is where I believe my mistake was) she said she wants to take things slow and rejected my kiss but we kept cuddling and talking. She started falling asleep on me, said she will go home in an hour, hour passed, still talking, had to end it myself. Had a long hug, both texted goodnight sweet dreams. Never hung out again, tried texting her and she acted nice but replied slowly, sometimes she texted first but still slow. Tried to initiate something to no avail.

I did something wrong by her standards, but not sure what. Any ideas?
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>>22585861
>I did something wrong by her standards, but not sure what
>and asked to kiss her on the lips
You left the decision up to her. Girls don't want that for a fucking kiss. They want to be whisked away from the bowels of their minds.
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How do you get over a chronic fear of attractive women? I can act confident around ugly/fat chicks but as soon as a hot girl comes around I usually leave because I get so nervous. Over the years this nervousness has developed into sever anxiety over social situations. One time last spring I went with my friend to eat at our university dining hall only to find out he was meeting his two hot female friends. I got really sweaty and nervous and said I was going to get more food but I just left. Made me look like a friend and when he asked about it I just said something came up but he knew. All my friends know there’s something wrong with me and I’m sick of it. I lied to them that I lost my virginity finally because I didn’t want to be the only one still a virgin this late in college. Anybody have some advice?
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>>22575840
Make the first move anon
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>>22585518
If you messaged her first this could be a reason, just because a female matches with you doesn't necessarily mean sexual interest, I know women who swipe on a lot of guys because it boosts their match numbers and makes them feel more desirable, they screenshot the amount of matches and post it in the group chat. In the future the best advice I can give you is to let them message first. I know it sounds like a waste but women are inundated with boring messages about their bio and their looks all the time, and they usually don't respond or they respond with disinterest, unfortunately your case. Are you a social person? If texting isnt your thing, then try meetup, and find a group with similar interests as yours and see what you can get if you attend these group events. I will tell you that it's mostly men and fags, but some of the groups I've joined had plenty of women, the yoga groups, basic martial arts, painting or artwork groups tend to be more feminine driven, see what you can get, nothing to lose really.
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>>22585839
That's not too bad of a situation, if you two got along well in the past then reaching out should be simple, fortunately these times we're living in make it easy to reach out to old friends or flames and "see how they're doing". Since it's been a few years you could try this. It's your best bet.
>Hey _____ I just remembered [insert plausible lie here] which brought up some old memories, how have you been?
Easy, maybe mention that you saw a movie she liked and it brought up old memories, or something, dint just message "Hey what's up?" Out of the blue, its creepy. But my suggestion makes you look like a more sincere guy who cares about her, even if it's just to get your wee wee wet.
>>22585861
Whilst cuddling and after kissing her cheek, you should've kissed her neck, or took a breath in her ear. Literally immediate turn on for women and men. Women say they want consent, but when you ask for it their pussies become the Sahara Desert. Now its different with sex tho because if you're fucking AMD then she immediately regrets, she can indian give that consent and claim rape. But anyways, if you're in the car together, cuddling, and kissing, you the male, have to attempt to slwoly escalate it. Think about this
>May I kiss you?
>Can we please have sex?
Sounds pathetic right? Dont do it again. And stop contacting her, she now thinks you're clingy over a nonexistent relationship, back off for a bit an if she contacts you, go from there. Screenshot this so you fucking remember, DONT ASK TO KISS A GIRL
JUST TAKE THEM LIPS.
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>>22585980
not him
how do i get the courage to kiss her?
this is a silly question, i know the answer will be "just do it" but i'm sure there's also deeper psychological trick to get the courage, i don't want the short answer
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Alright DAO. Here we go

Cut to May 2020, find a cute mutual on Facebook (currently 23, she’s 27 with a child) friend her and begin chatting. She is a little weirded out but eventually we get to talking. We hit it off well. We plan a date for June 2020. Needless to say the date goes off well. We now message everyday, call eachother babe and proceed to make out and hold hands and ish. We date for a while. We have sex on the second date. She is shy and very busy with work so she hasn’t had dick in months she was kinky asf. Sex was bomb. We go on several more dates and she invites me to church. (I’m fine with this) I go to church and deal with her church girl friends who are annoying asf. Anyways on July 4th after a month of dating she says that she just wants to be friends. Big part due to her mental health with covid, (works 60 hr weeks at home and has to deal with the little shithead and bitch roommate) Shit hurts, I was looking for long term as was she. We end up staying friends and I go to watch movies with her every weekend. It’s fine but we are literally on the couch we fucked in 2 weeks ago. I notice her body language features crossed legs. I still go to church and meet up with her but it doesn’t feel great since everyone knows we split. Now we are messaging less and less as she’s getting busier and busier and it seems that Sunday is the only really day I can have a genuine conversation with her. She’s starting school again soon for a BA and so I know it’s gunna get worse. I miss her and I miss the chance we had but I’ve moved on somewhat. I’ve been working out everyday for the last 4 weeks and shredded 25 lbs and also stopped consuming alcohol, I’ve occupied my time with reading, watching film, playing cards and working. I’m just wondering, is there a chance for me to get it back? She said she wasn’t entirely done with the idea of us dating again someday it’s just she’s busy and annoyed and mentally stressed. Wat do
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>>22575244
>stupid hobbies that may involve anime or other such niche topics.

I have a friend that's drowning in pussy while doing the exact opposite. I've seen one of my friend spend the entire night explaining touhou lore to an instagram model at a club. Dude boned her that very night. I don't know how he does it, he'll just talk about whatever the fuck he feels like talking about and they'll eat it up for whatever reason.
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>>22586108
Its because you have low self esteem and believe these women to be out of your league from the get go, and so you place them on a fucking pedestal. I only read your first two sentences and I already knew where this was going because all low self esteem people believe the sexually attractive opposite to be out of their league, because in their minds this is what's ongoing through it, tell me if I'm right
>Why would she go out with
>She's probably getting hit on by hotter guys than me
>She's just gonna reject me anyway
Another issue is that men automatically assume that literal tens are wealthy and part of some imaginary aesthetic upper class. It doesn't exist. Of course in this vain and superficial world we live in looks matter, of course, but you have to treat them like one of the bros. Think about this: if every guy is hitting on her or trying to get with her, how would you look if you treated her like she was nothing but one of the bros you'd grab a brewski with. Women can sense when they've been over valued, and they can tell because you lower your own value to do it. Literally treat them like a bro. Be more nonchalant. You treat ugly and fat chicks like a guy friend and you can fuck them right? You can talk to them easily because you seen no inherent worth of value within them, but you see hot chicks as being above you. Treat them like a bar buddy.

It took me years to come to terms with the fact that women say and want two completely opposite things. I believe in you
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>>22575647
You think your mother was a any better at your age?
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>>22579330
Why are you here if you're married?
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>>22586264
That goes with my most recent post, ignore what they want and do you, treat them like a bar buddy and you can fuck them. My original response was about a more formal date setting. But a club? That's a different ballgame lmao
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>>22586262
Yeah bro, you can get it back and I'm proud of you for working on yourself and attempting to make yourself a more appealing man, but remember, better yourself because it's what you want, not because you think it's what someone else wants. But as I've said to some others, you're gonna have to stop simping for her. Dont get me wrong, you two clearly care for eachother but she ended the dating, she crosses her legs to you, and you still willingly go to church with her and her friends and hang out at her place? It's not right. You need to tell her ASAP, assuming she still talks to you at all, that you're going to have to cut things off until she's ready to have a relationship. And this is tricky because there's a multitude of factors, societal, medical, political, motherly, and work stress all seem to be fatiguing this woman. You need to give her some space and time. If she truly wanted the relationship she will come back to you. Dont completely kick her out of your life but you have to mention that you cant keep playing this boyfriend role if you arent actually her boyfriend. Its a tough one I know. Especially since she may find someone else during this time, but it's great because you may find someone better as well. I've talked to women with children, and I realized that ex issues and children issues may bring significant complications so Inended the relationships. I dont recommend dating single mothers because it usually brings the man unneeded stress. But do you. Also was she recently out of a relationship before meeting you? Because if it wasn't more than 3 months before the last one, then you may have been a rebound.
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>>22581780
>Sorry for missing this one, when you talk to these women, do you give in to their talking points or put up some sort of jokingly argumentative attitude. They prefer the latter, women hate yes men (Fuck Benny and Fuck the NCR). When they talk to you how do you typically respond? Are you staring at them waiting for their every word or are you more nonchalant?
I suppose I generally follow the conversation more than leading it, to put it that way.
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I don't really have a problem attracting women, I'm a good looking guy but the problem is I don't know how to escalate with women. It's happened multiple times now that I've had a girl be super into me but I couldn't make it work because I bitched out and she eventually loses interest. I'm just not sure when I should touch her, when I should go for a kiss, how to move from friendly to sexual? Thanks.
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>>22586341
I needed the extra push to def get my life on track it seemed to be a wake up call. I’m working on it for me but that def was a factor in helping me push towards greatness. I’m going to take your advice on this. Prior to myself she hasn’t dated anyone in over 2 years, her friends were joking that she “finally found a man” cuz she simply just doesn’t go out or look for relationships. I may have to do the “boyfriend” talk that you are bringing up and I’m not sure how to go about it but I think I can figure it out hopefully. On the church thing I still find the faith helping through these times, perhaps I can go to another one or even just miss seeing her there altogether and still attending? Lots of options here.
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>>22586344
There we go, control the conversation and you control the woman. Women dislike followers and dislike yes men, when she says something argue it but keep it friendly banter. Dominate the conversation and if you notice that she stops responding for a day or two and then she decides to respond, you throw that same bullshit back, ignore her and then get back to her after 3 days. Unfortunately dating is not really about love anymore, its more about power dynamics, which you may want to read up on.
>>22586337
Frankly, I wouldnt recommend it. I've never had good experiences, always terrible whores that I found out have a boyfriend or a child at home, and that's unnecessary stress for me, but I live in Philly so that's to be expected. Anyways, I'd recommend picking up women in more public places because a lot of the women I know, give their numbers out a club because they're afraid that the man asking is inebriated or may be on a drug and get violent. They usually do this to leave the clubs easily but will immediately block the numbers. I really dont recommend this method. Might I suggest joining a Yoga club or pilates, maybe even an art class or martial arts, there are plenty of single, attractive and introverted women in these areas. Club Slutsbare terrible. I've dated one. Abuse ex spiel, BPD, bodily issues, coke addiction, and she went clubbing every weekend because she valued those few ours every night than the mundanity if her very existence. You dont want this bullshit.
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>>22586236

anyone?
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>>22586376
Yes, plenty of options, I'm glad that you're open to them and not locked onto getting her back. She may come back but she clearly needs a breather, not necessarily from you but from other factors in her life as well. And yes, if you find the faith to be doing you some good in your journey through life, then you should definitely continue going to church, just another one. Once her friends notice that you stopped going, they may mention something to her and she may reach out to ask what's going on, in which case you can drop the whole boyfriend angle that I mentioned. It may work work out just have faith and bide your time bro. I wish you the best.
>>22586369
Hey no problem, we've all been there, your mind is probably running miles a minute calculating the perfect thing to do or say, but unfortunately that causes analysis paralysis, which cause inaction and indecision which women hate. If you two go out, and you had a great time, when she goes in for a hug afterwards, you should go in for a kiss. That's automatic escalation and you don't seem like a creep for doing it. She'll just reject you by saying something like "I'm sorry, I just dont see you that way" or some other cliched bullshit, "It's not you, it's me". Dont ask to kiss, dont ask to hold hands. You need to make these moves on your own whenever you're ready. Di things at your own pace to learn. If this causes a few failed dates and awkward hang ups then so be it, as long as you're able to practice on your technique. No amount of Pick Up Artist bullshit will help you if you're over thinking. You need to first calm yourself down and stop overthinking the dates or the intimate moments. Take your time.
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>>22586389
I answered you, but I dont know what you want me to tell you. You clearly overthink the situation and instead of making a move and going for the kill, you'd rather ask for permission to go for the kill, which ruins the point of going for the kill, do you get it? I suggest that if you guys are ever cuddling again in the car and listening to music, to whisper sweet nothings in her ear, and kiss her neck or atleast breath on her neck. Do something. You're looking for some pick up artist answer to get what you want when in reality, this shit is a trial and error.
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>>22575142
Should I ask out a close friend of mine? We get along really well and there's plently of chemistry. I asked her out like a year ago and got turned down, but managed to laugh it off. Later found out she's super shy about dating, so I don't know if she actually doesn't feel the same way.

Should I do it and if so how do I not scare her off?
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>>22586385
>There we go, control the conversation and you control the woman
Ok. Are you suggesting I go more into playful teasing as well?
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>>22586450
Easy, you guys already have great chemistry right? Video call her and ask her to meet you at a place and tell her you're taking her on a date. Since it's a video call you can ease yourself into it and you two can visually react and joke around if you get rejected again. Doing it by phone call or by text is quite impersonal which leads to a no. Your chemistry is your catalyst.
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>>22586474
Yes exactly, you need to excite her by text and if texting isnt your thing, just video call her out of the blue and see the response. Its easier to make people like you if you're looking into eachothers eyes as you speak. Women actually prefer video calls over texts these days, which I find annoying
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>>22586490
Thanks for the advice. I mentioned I was gonna be in the area and she invited me out to dinner but she's done that before, so who knows. Any pointers on how to actually bring up the subject? I'm not a total autist but I get this deer in the headlights type response when talking to girls I like
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>>22586499
Ok thats a good start for me. Something I've done before but not too experienced. I've recently gotten out of a 4 year, serious long term relationship so I'm a little rusty right now as well. Would you mind giving me some brief examples of that a decent text conversation or starter would look like?
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>>22586510
Hmmm, on the date You need to say, something incredibly corner like "Is this a date? I knew you liked me!" Depending on her response you could either be joking or serious. You need to play the field man
>>22586536
I unfortunately may not be able to provide that as I'm black and I use certain terminologies and Negroid colloquialisms that the women I talk to may find funny. First give me a typical example of your text convo, screenshot one, and remove all personal details. It's the quickest way for me to give advice.
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>>22586236
Once you've done it a few times it becomes easier. You walk out of the bar at the end of your first date with her. There is that awkward moment when you're not sure what to do because women never initiate it. You need to end with some touching, even a hug, but it's best to try for the kiss
a) she wanted it, which surprises you because you didn't see any signals. You make out.
b) she turns away. At least she knows you're not a pussy and she's more likely to respect you for trying. If she ghosts you it wasn't because of the kiss.

Try doing it on a second date if that makes you feel better; you know 100% she wants it. And never ask for a kiss it makes you an instant creep.
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>>22586559
>First give me a typical example of your text convo, screenshot one, and remove all personal details. It's the quickest way for me to give advice.
Well shit, after skimming through my phone, all my conversation with the few single women I know who I'd be interested in actually doing shit with, just consists of me asking them if they're available to hang out with me at a specific place and time. I got no texting game. The overwhelming vast majority of my communication occurs in person. Clearly I need to meet more single women and change my communication style.
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>>22586431
thanks bro but i wasn't the guy who asked the first question, don't be angry at me please

>>22586574
so "just do it" because i have nothing to lose
is not answering what i wanted, but like i mentioned before, the question was silly, it was probably my fault
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>>22586593
Well there you go. You've noticed a pattern, although its not a bad pattern and fairly straight to the point, like you said those types of messages dont really excite women. But hey there's a wide variety of genuinely good texting guides online. They can give you significantly better texting advice than I can.
>>22586600
My apologies but if you read my other responses, I straight up say a multitude of times that you need to pace yourself with this, and it will take a handful of failed dates and failed relationships before you truly grasp what you need to do. It's all trial and error. Maybe you feel like you need to rush into some puaay or a relationship, might I ask if you're a teenager?
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>>22586626
>you're a teenager?
i'm a 23yo v*rgin
i knew this girl for a while we're good but i never made any move, she probably sees me as a friend, but i'm 100% sure she used to be interested in me...
i don't give a shit about her, she's not even that pretty, i just want to fugg, i think i got a chance with her, (i'm not delusional, trust me) but i'm too much of a pussy to make a move
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>>22586626
>there's a wide variety of genuinely good texting guides online. They can give you significantly better texting advice than I can.
Any recommendations?
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>>22586662
https://youtu.be/NlCDiSoGTvU
He's black, brace yourself.
>>22586641
So then you clearly do care about her, if she was truly the object that you claim to see her as, you wouldn't be hesitating. Men who see women as beneath them have no trouble fucking them because they treat them the way they see them. You say youbdont care about her and then say she isnt even attractive but you're afraid to make a move? That should actually make it easier. You're conflicted on your true feelings about this woman. I recommend sorting yourself the fucm out first and then next time you meet up and there seems to an intimate moment, go for it. And lookup bedroom eyes. Once women give you that "look", you're in.
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>>22586728
maybe
i wasn't trying to say that i don't like her as a person, just that i don't want to date her... unlike most people here who want a gf
i'm just afraid of rejection, like i said, she probably sees me only like a friend and would make things weird
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>>22586728
>https://youtu.be/NlCDiSoGTvU
Oh he's good. Thank you!
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>>22586287
Giving good gen x tier advice to all the poor directionless zoomers out there.
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>>22581143
Plz help
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>>22581143
This is a very difficult situation and frankly my response may be a bit jumbled on this, but hear me out. I can assume that when you've explained this issue to others or even any male friends they'd say something like, "what bro you dont like free pussy?". Which is a shame. Sexual abuse is no laughing matter. Was it a family member, babysitter or someone close to you who breached your trust? This may make things difficult, and you said that you're only able to have sex with women whom you've known for quite some time? Do you have any well trusted friends that you could have help you with talking to women? Would having your friend play wingman or accompanying you whilst talking to a potential mate help give you any solace? Or does the women herself need to be someone with whom you already have good rapport and communication?
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is it lame to tell someone you've been on a few dates with you hope they have a good day in the morning?
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>>22588443
Yes, it shows the beginning stages of what a person may perceive to be as clingy behavior especially if an actual relationship hasn't been clearly established. If they truly liked you, they would wish you had a good day.
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>>22586264
>I don't know how he does it
Physically attractiveness. But you are gonna denied it so save up your (you).
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>>22577733
>>22577755
Checked
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>>22575872
so you like older?
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I'm pretty new to the dating app game, not much of a dater for that matter, also somewhat old (28+). Now I've gotten some matches, convo's, few dates, but now I'm on a second date with a new girl and she seems really chill. She looks cute, bit thick, and she seems into me. We kinda fucked up the first kiss and due to plans I can't meet on short term to correct that, but she seems to text even more now so.

Reading all those stories, I got the feeling dating via apps is a numbers game, only for hookups etc., so it seems unlikely to actually meet someone you click with, so 'early'. She's now texting me daily till we can probably meet again, is this normal for just having had a second date with pretty much a stranger? On one hand I like her, but on the other hand I feel this is closing in way to fast and I should be hitting up as many as possible and and don't care at all.
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>>22589498
It all depends on how you view her. Is she someone you genuinely feel for, or is it just some chick you'd like to get a quick fuck out of? It seems like she actually likes you, so I would run with it a bit longer. Dont start catching Pussy FOMO. You feel like you dont wanna be caged in but then why are you on a dating app? Were you not personally prepared to find someone who actually clicks with you do well? Two anecdotes for you:
>I met my bpd coke whore ex on tinder, she seemed to have all the same interests as me and we seemed like two balls in a nutsack, turns out I was being used and she was mimicking my interests to get a rebound bf. I fell for it.
>This woman I'm currently talking to actually really gels with me. We are actually incredibly similar and alike and she wants to plan vacations together even though we havent actually met or even fucked yet, just texting and nude video calls. This chick actually seems fucking legit, could be the one
These are your only two outcomes. Either it's legit or its not. What do you want? Also fucking a bunch of women at 28 and entry of casual sex would get old I'd think. I'm 24 and I hate casual sex, it feels so lifeless and empty. Feel more lonely afterwards. What exactly are you looking for?
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>>22589802
Well, we really are on the same wavelength on a lot of things. I'm looking for something stable, but I didn't expected to actually find it on an app and now I feel unprepared. I don't have much dating experiences and I need a lot of time to trust someone, so it kinda feels disingenuous for someone to like me after 2 dates, sending pictures and texting daily.
I guess I'm trying to figure out if I'm being bamboozled or not, rebounding, red flags, whatever.
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>>22589932
From experience it's not. If a woman genuinely enjoys your presence and being around you, you'll get this exact behavior. But in this situation you want to play it cool. Might I suggest watching this video with the young negro gentleman, text is a great way to create a simple bond, but it can be lost even quicker.
https://youtu.be/NlCDiSoGTvU
But as stated. She really likes and you're in a good position, but since you haven't been in this position before you may be a bit oblivious to it. It'll take time. Just dont give in to her demands too easily and dont be a SIMP. You should be fine.
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>>22590195
Thanks senpai, I kinda think she does enjoy it yea, but it's indeed unfamiliar for me. Thanks for the vid, I kinda have that down from previous experiences, I text her maybe once, twice a day after work and she usually replies in 10 mins, sometimes sending me text multiple times a day. Just don't know how I'm gonna keep this up for several weeks till we can meet up again, texting as filler seems hard to keep it interesting.
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>>22586187
I matched with 20+ women, never have any of them messaged me first. Some even have "want a bf no hookups" in their bio and these don't message first either. I used tinder years ago too and it never happened to me either. I'm not ugly either but no chad so maybe that's why. I did join groups but this is chav island so if you join a group and there are women there, 90% of them are going to be turbo sluts. There are a good few women in my class too in college, I often sit beside them and I notice a lot of them are checking me out but it's literally the same case, turbo sluts everywhere and half the conversations end up about them fucking some guy in a club or just talking about sex in general but I'm not into these kinds of women. The clubs I joined are male only for some reason, never met a woman there, well once I did but she was 18 and I'm 25 so it's too young for me. I'd say that if I lived in a different country I wouldn't have as many problems with women but here, everywhere you go, either sluts or girls with daddy issues since people here never heard of monogamy apparently. There are actually more people here that don't have either parent than people that have both. It's fucked here. I also live in a small town with fuck all to do and apart from college clubs, nothing is really happening here.
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Someone tell me to check my tinder messages. I just can't do it. I'm so fucking anxious holy shit.
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>>22575142
What a fucking slut. Do girls really speak like this?
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>>22590808
dont do it, you might actually have a opportunity to talk with a girl!
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>>22576437
Cringe
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>>22575142
Is your dick really above average tho.
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>>22590866
Okay, that's why I have women texting me and talking to me like a deranged cock hungry slut. Clearly I'm cringe. Haha okay.
>>22590853
When women really fucking want you, they literally lower themselves down to nothing by text or call if it means that they'll have your cock inside of them. I tell this chick I'm not even close to being in shape, and she says she'll fuck me into a nice physique. Like damn.
>>22591266
Length wise yes. 7.1, the girth is like 5.3 and its not that thick, I wish I had a thicker dick. My only insecurity because I can talk to a woman, I can make them want my cock like I'm the last man on earth, but if they've got that arbies sandwich bullshit going on down there, then no amount of care and technique will satisfy her, I've pretty much got a pencil peenie, just hope it doesn't ruin my relationship with this current girl.
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>>22590808
Just check them, you pussy, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Besides if you check your messages and you find woman to be messaging you to start something, they must sea something of worth in you, just check em.
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>>22581406
Yeah, that sounds like a guy responding.
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>>22575722
F A T N I G G A
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>>22591533
Don't believe me lmao. Read this corny ass shit I text her, and read her responses. You guys are so used to being catfished by horny faggots online that you couldn't even be able to tell when someone is attracted to you. You just assume its all fake. And that's why some of you will never make it. I'm nothing but honest. Take it or leave it.
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>>22591521
Just made the experience that even if the conversation is fine 99% of women do not want to meet up. Haven't scored a single date in over a year. Hence why I get anxious now to look at the replies.
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the real challenge are girls that are insecure and lack self-esteem
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>>22592248
The only time a girl has ever talked to me like that was when we were already in a relationship. I would not send shit like that to someone I'm not already close to. I'm just not confident enough for it.
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How do I get over my ex of 2 years? I wasn't that into her at first but she won me over and once I started showing attachment she lost interest. She was there for me during some hard times and I feel empty now. I can't stop thinking about her fucking other guys.

I've been lifting and cutting out fap/vaping but it still hurts. It's been about a week but all I can think of is how I fucked up and how I want her back.
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I've been dating a girl for a bit over 4 months, first time we hooked up we were drunk and we made out a lot. we went on a few 'secret' dates but we'd only get physical at the end of the night when we had had a few drinks.

we only get physical like 1 out of every 3 dates, last time was a bit over a week ago, she was sitting on my lap and we were hugging and kissing in front of our friends.

then just yesterday she texted we should go out to eat and afterwards we went to meet a few friends, but there she rejected all my advances.

that is her pattern of behavior, sometimes we've had great dates like the time we played Mario Kart she seemed to really enjoy that but then at the end of the night she just gave me a small good night kiss. and another time we ran into a friend of hers at a restaurant, night was looking like a waste to me but then she wrote on her phone "let's ditch this guy" and we did and we had an awesome make out session that day so I don't think it's so much the quality of the date.

anyway my plan is basically to just keep things this way and maybe wear her down, hopefully I don't end up wasting a lot of my time.

do you think that's a good plan? what would you do different?

this girl is like a 9/10 in my eyes and younger than me, I'm probably like a 6-7/10, I've no idea how I've held her this long.
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>>22592411
I'm really stumped when trying to flirt with insecure/low self-esteem shy women.

There's this chick in my class that I went on some casual dates (coffee, eating) where we talked about random shit, but every time I would tease/nag her she would get somewhat offended, sexual comments were just ignored.

I would take those as signs of no interest but I noticed her looking at me while talking, she kinda was searching for my approval or she would ask me for advice, sending me memes and shit, but she would text like a disgruntled eunuch.

Maybe I am too direct for her, as I usually dabble in thot-speech, but going for friendship>relationship sucks balls as I can't abstain from my flirty self when confronted with a qt.

Maybe the thinly-dicked gentleman may offer some wisdom?
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>>22592643
how about you stop being satisfied with what she gives you and start being more proactive with her, like initiating plans for dates and try and get some ass, dude.

>my plan is basically to just keep things this way and maybe wear her down
you think this is UFC nigga? just KO her already, it's been 4 months. She will move to another dude that will fuck her shit up is she has not already.
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>>22592535
You won't win her back, if she finds you to be clingy it means that you've lowered your value to her in some manner, and getting respect back is quite difficult. You literally need to not reach out, remove her from your socials, have literally know clue what is going on in her life, radio silence or no contact, look them up. Work on you and become a better man. If she wanted you back afterwards then not only would she let you know, but it would prove that she's just a superficial cunt who cares about appearances more than the actual relationship. Women will find any bullshit excuse to leave you if her heart was never really in it.
>>22592643
She clearly likes adventure, playing mario kart is the opposite, but running into friends or acquaintances and fired some bullshit reason to ditch them, that's fun. Dine and dash? Fun. Breaking into a car in an old parking lot just fuck each others brains out, fun. Sitting in front of of all her friends and making out with you,, exciting and bit bitchy. Just going on dates and playing mario kart wont work this chick. You've seemed to notice a pattern but you're missing the full picture here. Read into her more, go back through all the intimate moments and notice what led to them, there's the true pattern. Take her on more adventurous outings or spontaneous things. I don't mean "LOLSORANDUM RAWR XD" level spontaneity but be "cooler" don't talk so much, have a good time with her and be stpic about it dude.
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>>22592790
Has some solid points, next time you get physical, grab her waste, or kiss her neck. Breath in her ear, kiss her earlobes, instant waterworks for most women.
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>>22592790
it was a typo it's been 3 months but I think your point still stands.
I've been proactive, today I invited her to lunch and she accepted, Saturday I asked her out she rescheduled for yesterday Sunday... the week before I asked her out for a drink on friday she rescheduled for the next day.
I try to initiate physical contact every time, sometimes she accepts and sometimes she denies me.
she by herself has started contact I think 4 or 5 times, including the first time.
her not going out with anyone else (it's a small town, I'd know) is one of the positives of this.
she's been with guys but she's never been in a relationship (she's 23).
>>22592839
>Just going on dates and playing mario kart wont work this chick.
yeah I get that. it was her idea btw, she brought up she owns an Xbone and I told her I only own a Switch and she asked me if I have Mario Kart and that we should play some time
>You've seemed to notice a pattern but you're missing the full picture here. Read into her more, go back through all the intimate moments and notice what led to them, there's the true pattern.
this is good let me think this over.
>next time you get physical, grab her waste, or kiss her neck. Breath in her ear, kiss her earlobes, instant waterworks for most women.
yeah man I get it, my ex loved it when I went for her neck and earlobes. I immediately went for those with this girl first time we made out and she told me "hey don't be so intense ok, I'm already into it" lol, I've bit her gently on her neck and shoulders, I've also gone into her panties with my fingers and her into mine with her hand. no sex yet tho, not even oral.
that's as far as we've gone but I'll keep gently pushing. thanks guys.
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I'm an 18 kissless virgin who has recently started going out with a 10/10 pawg. We talked a bunch through dms but she told me that she's addicted to her phone and tries to spend as little time as possible on her phone so her replies started becoming less frequent. she also said that she was really sorry if it bothered me when she wouldn't reply for 2 days( it ofc did because I have less self esteem than others bcs of past events) but I just said don't worry about it you have more important things to worry about than dms. we went out a few weeks ago to the beach and had a blast, she was laughing and shit was cash, but here's my problem. I have been able to get girls out on dates but never kiss them or do anything sexual. we are supposed to meet this week and I have no idea how to flirt or get her sexually interested. I guess I am intimidated by her looks and the idea of kissing. How do you get from hanging out to the first kiss?
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Matched with a girl on fb dating (lol) a few week ago, had a very brief conversation about it fizzled out

Last night she matched with me on Bumble and immediately sent me a message saying "Hey bitch" and we had a decent conversation. I got her snap and we took the convo to snap.

She asked me "When we gonna hang out?" and I told her that I was free most evenings, and she opened and didn't respond, Figured maybe she got busy.

I just sent her a snap that said "bong rips n chill?" and it doesn't seem like she's going to respond.

Why would she initiate the conversation and then also ask me when we're gonna hang out if she apparently doesn't want to hang out? I know bitches love the attention they get from dudes, but why would she need to message me for attention instead of just getting it thrown at her by the 2000 other dudes?
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>>22593356
>and I told her that I was free most evenings,
That's where you fucked up. Pick a day next time. Not with her, it's too late. Ball is in her court. As for your question, you were convenient. It's not that interesting.
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>>22575142
How do I talk them into wearing nappies?
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>>22593368
Every time I pick a day, it's the wrong day and they got something planned.

I can't win. I'm either too available or I'm forced to chase them trying to figure out a day.

I unmatched her and deleted her just now, but hey, she's a pretty girl, she can get attention from anyone else and probably won't even notice that I deleted her. Meanwhile I'll just sit here and jerk off cause that's all I'm good for.
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>>22593421
>Every time I pick a day, it's the wrong day and they got something planned.
Shit happens. Don't take it so seriously.
>I can't win. I'm either too available or I'm forced to chase them trying to figure out a day.
Just have to move on. Surely you have hobbies and shit to do than whine over these gorls. Come on, man. Be tough, be brave. You'll be fine.
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>>22575840
1: buy a mankini
2: do thumbs up Borat style and waggle your eyebrows
3: instant pussy
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>>22593448
Also, good for unmatching her.
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29 years old
5'9
Not bad facial features, but balding
Autism/ADHD
hkv

Is it ogre?
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>>22593356
You fucked up like that anon said. Telling a woman that you're totally free makes her think you have no friends to hang out with, you have no hobbies to indulge, maybe no job, women's minds throw up red flags at any man who has too much availability for her. She wants a man who doesn't respond right away, not a yes man that keeps asking to hang out even after she opens your messages and ignores them. Btw there's a snapchat side app that allows people to screenshot and open messages without it affecting the actual snapchat app itself. She good be doing that to screen your messages. Also women see your texts within 10 minutes of receiving them. Always. If she's ignoring you, give her some space and live your life, if she's use to you always contacting her then she may have her interest re piqued once you stop doing it. Get what I mean?
>>22593421
And clearly you have no self esteem or self respect. Get a hold of yourself. Do you know how many women would message me and then ghost me after a week or so? When I was new to dating any female who gave me the time of day immediately clutched my heart strings and I'd imagine a future together. That's what you did with this woman. She starts ignoring you and you feelike youre losing her and since you have a "Scarcity" mindset, you feel the need to regain her attention and have her notice you again. Then you get upset when she continued to ignore you and throw yourself a pity party. Pick yourself the fuck up and stop being a mopey pussy. I've posted a link on texing women like 3 times already, fucking watch it.
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>>22593503
Trust me, I religious watch AMS so I'm not an idiot. I just don't understand how I'm supposed to ignore my phone for 17 hours a day to make girls more interested. I don't have a lot of friends, I live in a small city. There's just not a lot of options or shit to do except look at your phone. And no, I am in no position to move to a different city right now/
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>>22593525
LMAO you don't watch AMS, or else you'd be FUCKING THESE BITCHES TO SLEEP. Nothing that fellow negroid has ever said has been incorrect. Watch Coach Redpill as well. I've said this a million times throughout this thread, dating is a game of patience. Stop rushing shit and then getting upset about it.
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It might not be possible to help me.

>moved to new city
>no job yet
>no friends
>went from being in a ltr to breaking up because of moving
>no idea how to start dating anymore

I feel like I'm in real big trouble here.
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>>22593356
>I told her that I was free most evenings,

bruh...
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How does some pick up girls at a party? I'm going to one soon with a 2:1 Woman to Guy ratio, all single.How do I make sure I don't fuck up?
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>>22594636
You're not gonna make it.
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Would it be smart for a 29y khv to get an escort to get over the physical anxiety?
I feel it's blocking me from further intimacy with real girls.
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>>22575142
Im' the most hopeless person on this planet. Let's see what advice you can give me.

Im around 6', thinfat but look good in clothes, and iv'e had many women attracted to me even though i barely leave home.

Several of those i actually liked, all of those i rejected or ignored because im a fucking loser who is insanely insecure about every single thing that makes up the person he is. Penis size, stamina in bed, cheating, my place of origin and family, basically anything you can name is either an insecurity of mine or could become one as soon as i started thinking of it.

I am a massive introvert overthinker that pays super close attention to all that people do and say. I've been deeply traumatized by a girl i fell in love with like 8 years ago at this point who rejected me even if we had great chemistry.

I am also redpilled and all that garbage, and a female frind of mine confirmed she cares more about the "hierarchy" than how much she actually likes a guy. I have thought deeply about how women act, despite believing they are inferior.

At this point im desperate for anything that would make me less of a defeatist loser.
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>>22593217
If you get real close to her during the date then lean in, you’ll be able to tell if she wants a kiss. If not do this as you’re parting ways. Also try incidentally touching her hand or something like that. If she wants to have sex she’ll ask if you want to “netflix” with her
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My gf said she loves to talk much but im rather a quiet person who is not very good with small talks, how do i become more talkative.
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>>22593750
Dude you are me, I uninstalled Tinder last week because I was tired even if i did get some matches.

How do we fix this OP?
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>>22594851
I did it and it kind of worked for me. Just make sure you get a good one otherwise the experience will be sad.
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>>22593482
Doesn't even merit a response, does it?
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>>22595053
Can you kinda elaborate?
I found a place here for something like 140 euros/hour, so high class, and also specials for first timers. You have to go there, so that's nice, don't want it at my own place. An hour seems enough.

What did you do?
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>>22575142
Hi hi, me and my girlfriend can't really talk to each other that much and it just hurts (we're in different countries) Should we break things off or try to make it work?
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This girl I've been talking to online (and honestly fell HARD for) is autistic. We've been e-dating for around 10 months, and we are going to meet up for the first time next week. But I don't know what to do. Physically, she is way out of my league, I look like her father (even tho she is only 5 years younger than me). She is also really autsitic. She can't even look me in the eye while we videochat, she constantly stutters, she gets overwhelmed easily. She is very experienced (still a khhv), so I don't know how to behave to not fuck it up. I love her, I really do, I'm just not sure how I should approach this situation. I've only ever interacted with/dated 100% neurotypical, overweight ghetto bitches.
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>>22595216
Inexperienced, not experienced, fuck, I'm a retard.
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>>22595216
I'd say just be yourself, if you think you're gonna fuck up then talk to her about it.

I'm sure you'll do great!
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>>22595053
what criteria you used to choose? do you explained to her your situation?
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>>22595226
Yea I did talk to her about it, but she keeps telling me that everything is gonna be okay, and that I should behave like I usually do. The problem is, I usually swear a lot, I'm loud af, I kinda like to let everyone know I'm in charge, etc. Just insufferable asshole. I'm not sure if I should wear a suit or something.
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>>22595192
where is this place friend? 140 euros is quite expensive but if the girl are professionals i don't mind
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>>22595240
Netherlands (legal), but for one time only I don't mind, I want a decent experience, not the absolute lowest price
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what actually is a gf
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>>22593750
>>22594948
Depends, are you actually ready for a brand new relationship and the getting to know eachother portions of it, or are you still hungup on the ex?
My best bet would be to visit a bar, not really for women yet, but because you could meet a bar bro which could lead to more bar bros, then into friendships. That's where you want to start off. You need to make some friends in the new location before going after women. And also find a hobby in this new place as well. You can actually meet women in yoga classes, art classes, bookstores, vinyl record shops, etc. But I still recommend building yourself up in your new location first. It makes it easier for women to want to hang out with you, look up "Pre-Selection".
>>22595213
BREAK IT OFF ASAP. Ldrs barely work in the tiny American states, they definitely won't work across countries. Was she a pen pal or something originally?
>>22595216
She's literally telling you to ignore her flaws and behave the way you usually do. Do as she suggests, especially since she's autistic. Don't think too hard about this. She's told you what she wants. Just don't be the loud insufferable asshole and stop trying to vye for dominance all the time, it could potentially set her off, you have no clue. The way you talk to her now? Stick to it.
>>22595344
In these days that's practically a Philosophical question. But the traditional meaning of a relationship is two people who like/love eachother and want to spend their lives together. Originally for the purpose of procreation, but today commonly used to just exist within eachothers space and do lovey dovey bullshit. Also being a man, what would you consider a boyfriend to be?
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>>22576437

your dating profile has numerous mistakes, only thing you got right was dog.

>politics
>your fucking height

jesus dude, you should not be giving advice
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>>22580326

I've heard everything on the spectrum kiddo, from "I only date tall dudes" to "if I have to get a stool to kiss him, I'm not going to date him"

you're a retard if you think people have black and white tastes
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>>22595758
But I'm an attractive black male and women love that astrology bullshit. Say whatever the fuck you want but my methods work for me. ALSO name a single piece of advice I've given that was wrong or bad. Try me
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>>22576437
>Well he don't like you
I see you are going for single digit IQ women
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>very young girl shows disproportionate interest in me on holidays
>we get close to hooking up but she leaves, then comes back to get my insta
>live 400km away but spend a week dicking around, talking till 2am
>seems relatively receptive, though she has gone from outright lusting after my d to just saying I gotta go visit or some such
>can't really be too aggressive because it'll take time for me to go see her again, and she's too young
>don't want to end up friendzoned and most likely outcome is we end up just growing cold
Advice?
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>>22596007
Lmao, no as stated I'm a negroid, and am attracted to negroid women, I've done my time with white women sick of em. So I use negro and hood Colloquialisms to attain these women. That women who I've been posting in my screenshots is a literal ten and she wants the dick BAD. Being formal and "intelligent" on dating apps is ironically counterintuitive. Play coy, be an idiot and then surprise with intelligence through a phone call, video call, or text.
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Hey guys and girls I've been texting this girl from work, went on my first date ever on Friday, and still texting. While we discussed a few things, we mainly talked about work and the conversation was very boring. How do I get better at small talk and flirting? How to get better at texting and not be retarded? That was my first date ever, this is the farthest I've ever gotten and its only because she's into me, please give me advice about this so I don't screw this up
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>>22596195
Ask about her, stop talking about work you idiot. And if she brings it up, literally ignore it. Talk interests passions etc
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>>22596242
What do I ask?
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>>22575142
Where do I meet introverted stem girls who don't go outside except for work and want a real relationship and friendship before dating?
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>>22575142
>this is what sexting looks like with normies
I miss my ex like crazy partially because we were both writers. It was like talking dirty to a succubus. I think it spoiled me way too rotten to ever appreciate anything with 'cum' or 'LMAO' in it.
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>went on two dates with a grll
>kissed and stuff
>cant see her for a month
>shes sending me selfies and recordings of fucking minutes of talking about fuck all

i didnt ask for this
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Post test. litterally accidentally uploaded a screenshot that had my phone number in it. FUCK MY LIFE.
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>>22597751
So what's the problem then? Wouldn't she be talking about fuck all in person anyway? Thats how women are. Or is it because there is no intimacy in sent clips? She clearly likes you or she wouldn't be rambling so much. What do you want out of this relationship?
>>22597792
Youre good bro, if possible repost it without the information, need any advice?
>>22596477
I already told you, her interests and then conflate them with yours, your favorite music or show and then ask hers. You could even try politics which very difficult, but if you click politically, then you're two moves away from a Checkmate.
>>22597443
Impossible, unless you can bullshit your way into the forever alone subreddits and femcel subreddits, and extract that information from them directly. They will literally tell you where to find them, and how to attract them.
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>>22597841
Dumbass phone poster here.

I have a second date tonight. Girl is wholesome, we had zero physical contact on the first date. I have a history of getting blown on my first date then the chick ghosts me, so im trying to not try to fuck so soon and have a real relationship.

However, she texted me commenting on how big my arms are, and that she wants one of them wrapped around her neck. Sooo tonight is she down to make out or should i stay wholesome longer. Im worried if i blue ball her shell lose interest but i also want a wife eventually this hookup shit hurts.
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Rate this text sequence and what could I have responded with to this? (I made comment about pulling her hair, forgetting she (a black women) wears wigs)
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>>22597860
She already implied she wants you to fuck her, blue balling her will make her find someone else who's willing to do what you aren't. If you like this chick, fuck her, and fuck her good. Grab her throat, pull her hair back, and this is a personal trick, as she's on top riding you, gently caress your finger tips up her hips and down her back. Im trlling you they aren't use to shit like that.
>>22597942
Lol, nothing wrong with what you said. But if she said it's gonna take more than that, I'd assume she wanted you to keep up the sexting, and never mention hair pulling to a black woman unless her hair is natural.
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How do I ask this girl I’m dating to be my girlfriend?
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>>22598975
I said this to my now crackhead whore ex, "you tryna be my gf or what?"
Not only did she laugh but she said "it's about time" and then we fucked.
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>>22599067
Yes but what if she is an upright girl and not a crackhead whore, tripfag?
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>>22599130
She became a crackhead whore towards the end of the relationship, which is why things didn't work. Dont be a smartass. My tactics don't fail. EVER. Try it. Uptight women like to be fucked hard and put in their place sometimes. Follow my suggestions.
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>>22597841
>but if you click politically, then you're two moves away from a Checkmate
Not that guy, but I'm interested to know about those two moves.
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>>22575142
I've been on 10+ dates this year and none of them wanted to see me again afterward. I didn't say anything controversial or insensitive. I'm afraid that I look very good "on paper", but there is something about me that sets off major red flags. How can I improve my first date performance?
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>>22599393
Can you describe what you do and what you did wrong
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My girlfriend has started saying racist shit out of nowhere, what do?
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>>22599420
Give her to me
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>>22599402
There's honestly been a fair bit of variety by now. Prior to quarantine, most began at restaurants or bars. Since the pandemic, it's primarily been walking around parks or riding bicycles. Most have ended at her house. She offers me a drink and we talk some more. We kiss at length, and then I leave.

The biggest thing that I can pick out from the most recent ones is that they were hoping I'd be more adventurous. I've had to field questions about what sorts of drugs I've done and how often I go out to clubs or parties. And upon finding out that aspect of my life is basically nonexistent, they seem somewhat disappointed. And I should also clarify that I'm not seeking out wild types at all.
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how do you get a blowjob from a new girl? Do you straight up ask her to give you one? It just feels strange to ask directly like that.
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>>22599483
seems like you're just getting unlucky, i don't see how you could be giving off any major red flags if you're kissing them and going back to their house.
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>>22599483
Ah ok
If you’re at her place, she offers you a drink and you kiss her you don’t try to smash or tell her to see you again?
I am also not very social, I would recommend you find outdoor hobbies like mountaineering or rowing, I get a pass on being introvert sometimes because of this
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>>22599650
I’ve never asked but it happens anyway, I think girls just want to suck dick
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>>22586559
You fucking genius it worked im now dating her

God bless you anon
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>>22599664
I always tell them that I want to see them again. And they agree in the moment but blow me off when I try to make plans for another meeting. I am personally opposed to having sex on the first date, but try to progress to a bit of heavy petting. At some point, sometimes even before we kiss, they usually make a point of saying that they don't want to have sex or imply it's time for me to depart. I'm actually perfectly okay with that, but it is something to note.

I also have outdoor hobbies myself, like canoeing. And my job takes me outdoors more than most. To be honest, I'm not sure I really enjoy the outdoors al that much, or if it's just something I always thought I ought to enjoy because my parents are extremely into it.

>>22599658
In that case, I've been getting unlucky pretty consistently for a fair bit of time now. I'm convinced it's something about me.
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>>22599756
Maybe it’s the chicks you go after, Ive only seen 18-21 year olds and this isn’t an issue
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>>22600003
I'm 23 myself and the women I've been on dates with recently have all been from Bumble or Hinge, ranging from age 19-23. I wouldn't say there's a particular type I "go after" so much as casting a wide net and giving anyone who seems interested in me a try. Although I have noticed a common thread among some of the recent ones has been that they tend to be either graduate students and/or studying teaching, medicine, or psychology and extremely socially involved, volunteering with multiple different societies, etc. Perhaps I'm not type A enough for them. I'm a graduate student studying geochemistry and I'm not involved with any societies or sports teams aside from some light intramurals.
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>>22575142
I’ve been texting a girl a lot recently and although she seems to generally be involved in and care about the conversation, she never texts me first and at times it feels like I’m carrying the conversation. It’s been a little over a week now and we haven’t texted, should I just move on, I’m starting to feel like just a friend.
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>>22575142

me
>20yrs old
>Shredded
have no macking game, clown in girls dm here n there, not much self esteem, play vg mostly

what can i do to improve my situation and get more muff? (also do u have any life improvment tips to get more of a hustle )
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ok, so i've been talking to a girl who lives 1 hour away from me for about 2 months now. she knows im a virgin, she has way more experience than me but has said she doesn't mind. nudes have been sent at this point. however, im very autistic (and she knows), so i don't understand if she feels the same as me, or if she's just toying with me, which i honestly wouldn't care, if anything we're good friends at the very least.
is it worth going through the effort of taking that bus and have a real date? or should i wait it out a bit longer?
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>>22598143
i fucked her.

She had me drop her off at her place, we hadnt even kissed yet, so i said "hold on" and made out with her then we fucked in my car right there parked on the street in public in downtown Berkeley with people around.

She told me she has a date with a different guy tomorrow, i said id rather she wasn't fucking two guys at once so she said shell think it over.

But hey you were right anon, if i didn't fuck her someone else would have!
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>>22600425
But she screamed hella loud when she came it was awesome. Super kinky, was calling me daddy.
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>>22595641
Shit I don't drink either so that's even worse.

I wouldn't know how to progress things by talking to someone in a bookstore or record shop. I've had conversation sure but nothing that led to getting their number or seeing them ever again, I've no idea what a good way of asking is.

Anyway, I'm not hung up on my ex. I just find myself missing having a relationship and I feel like starting something new and exploring my new area with them.
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>>22588435
I appreciate the response. Sorry I took this long.

My past makes me sound like a damn charity case. There's so many separate instances of bad sex things happening to me by the hands of women and girls, including ones close to me I might not be able to get it all out in one post. Probably the most important piece is a (adult female) neighbor caught on to how inappropriately my babysitter behaved towards me and some how managed to get access to me. She proceeded to groom and repeatedly forced me to have sex with her and people (women, men, and possibly other children) she knew, sometimes with her and them at the same time. I feel in love with her. I even remember her looking me in the eyes and telling me she loved me. I genuinely believed she cared about me more than my own parents, especially my mom. My less than ideal relationship with my mother was more than likely a contributing factor. Anyway, that story gets even worse and I have probably half a dozen more to boot.

Having a friend with me really does help. However, something I noticed is it's generally not talking to women that's the issue. It what comes after. I just kinda shut down and freak out once I think she wants to go beyond casual flirting. At this point I'm pretty sure I need someone to hold my hand through it, meaning I need to build trust and a rapport with the woman before I can do it. I'm entirely certain I need to have outside, it absolutely has to come from outside, reassurance and support to get through my issues with regards to the act of having sex.
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>>22600082
That explains it bro, dating apps are shit
I meet girls through things like college sports, parties and events and it’s always better that way for me, highly recommend getting involved in a sport team or club activity
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are autistic people really that unattractive? i'm a 7/10 looksmaxxed autist that is still a khhv. women are universally repulsed by me, even when i think it's going well they pull stereotypical woman shit like a week later and start ignoring me even tho nothing bad happened between us.
what's going on here? is it me or them? i mainly go for art hoes so maybe it's them idk
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I have a pretty stupid problem, I get told that I look like a player a lot and I'm guessing my physical appearance puts a lot of girls in guard mode cause they assume I'm some fuck boy trying to hit and quit. Obviously that's a bit of a problem if I'm trying to fuck them cause they're cautious, so how can I make them relax and open up more around me?
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>>22600903
It's not all about looks anon, I have a friend who is only mildly autistic but you can tell within a few minutes that he has his quirks. He misses social cues a lot of the time which is problematic considering that women communicate very subtly. So my advice to you is to read up on body language, and become extremely fixated on learning nonverbal communication and other common social situations. I can't say for sure over text but maybe your tone of voice, and body language is off putting/incongruent with what you're saying? Ask if your voice sounds monotone, my friend has that problem.
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>>22601034
yeah i get what you mean
i think the problem with trying to teach myself to perform super subtle shit is that i'm already overwhelmed by my surroundings due to sensory overload, so throwing performative stuff on top of that will ironically make me even more stressed and burnt out, and consequently more visibly autistic, i dunno
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>>22601076
just do your best man, thats all we can really do
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I matched with one of my coworkers on tinder. We always got along well and she was always sending me messages that were more cutesy than what would usually be considered professional (lots of :) and "hehe")

She was flirting a bit, but I didn't think much of it since I assumed we matched as a joke. We ended up hitting it off and messaging pretty regularly for a few days. We ended up having a lot in common. She was sending lots of really detailed, thoughtful messages, and asking lots of questions. I figured this was a good sign.

Fastforward to yesterday morning. She hadn't replied in about a day, and apologized for it, saying that she was on a roadtrip and couldn't get a signal. She also asked how my weekend was. I replied to her question, and asked how her roadtrip was.

It's been 2 full days with no reply or acknowledgement. I was really into this girl, and it's looking like I've been ghosted. Does this mean she isn't interested and I should move on? Or should I try sending another message?
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>>22602416
Dating coworkers is usually a bad idea, don't shit where you eat, unless you're not coworkers anymore.
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>>22602416
Never send a message after the first one was ignored, even though it wasn't, women notice those texts within 15 minutes of receiving it. She could be talking to someone more interesting, or like you said maybe only matched out of acknowledgement of eachothers work history. Happened to me with some highscool chicks. Maybe she even met someone on the road trip, who knows. But what you need to do now is nothing. You messaged her, she didn't get back, the ball is in your court now. Assuming within the next week she decides to respond and play the "sorry I was busy" card. Ignore her for a day or so and say that you were busy. Women love to ignore men, its a power trip, but once they're ignored, they flip out. It's all power games these days. Don't ever double text unless they do so before you. Also move on, she clearly didn't care to rank as much as you did, she can go fuck herself.
>>22601014
My step brother had this issue on tinder, women would message him and ask if he was a fuckboy, he was at the time, but he behaved and dressed in a way which gives off that image. Is it your naturally good looks, or is it your style? We have to figure this out first. The only way to disarm them would be to change one of these two factors ever so slightly. I'm a fuck boy and women tell me that I'm too genuine and kind to be one, its all about the outward image.
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>>22599753
Assuming these are legit, I'm excited for you guys, you're now a few steps closer to what you want. Women always give off subtle signals and you need to catch them before they lose interest. I hope everything works out for you two
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So I'm 23 recently out of college guy and a few weeks ago I met this recently divorced 48 year old lady on Tinder and I hooked up with her and I've been fucking her for the past three weeks now. I've been with 4 women in my life and she is objectively the best fuck of my life. Like the ritual the past few weeks is I come over Friday night and we have sex 2 or 3 times and it's amazing. First off she has this amazing endurance and is ready to fuck immediately after the first time like me and she knows how to fuck super well and the greatest part of all are her tubes are tied so she doesn't make me use a condom. Then I usually chill with her for a little bit on Saturday before leaving.

I wanted to know how long this "relationship" can last much longer. Because quite frankly there's some things about it that kinda weird me out. First my own mom is 53, so I'm basically fucking my mom. Second is she has a 19 year old son and 16 year old daughter who are probably scared as fuck that some 23 year old is fucking their mom every Friday. Anyone know how much longer I can expect outta something like this, I kinda want it to go on for like ever cause the sex is amazing, but realistically it's not a relationship
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>>22600248
Keep trying its a numbers game
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>>22602490
It's her last week right now, so we won't be coworkers after that

>>22602545
Thanks for the advice and sympathy anon. Since we won't be working together pretty soon, I think I might shoot my shot later one more time and see what happens. It's not like I have anything to lose at that point.
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how do you not get worn out by the numbers game? takes me about 15 matches before i land a date, and i get a match every other day or there abouts
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>>22602607
It's a dead end just enjoy it while it lasts.
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>>22600248
All I do is play Nioh, Monster Hunter, Gtav and Soul Calibur 6. What you do to enjoy yourself has no real bearing on your pussy game. Don't clown yourself in Dms, learn to use your weak points as self Deprecative jokes. Getting women mostly consists of not divulging your life like an open book, keep some mysterious qualities about yourself and make her laugh. Poke fun at her, yourself, the things you both enjoy. If she asks what you do im your spare time, tell her "when I'm free I like to relax with a video game for an hour or so" even if you play all day like I do. Little white lies to gain and keep interest always work, just keep track of them and don't contradictct yourself. If you say something that bothers her, don't give in, don't apologize. "I said this because this is what I believe in". Stay willful and have conviction. I have no mack game, I don't use PUA tactics or psychological tricks to bullshit these women. I say whatever the fuck I want whenever I want, because I'm a man, and if she liked me in any real capacity, she'd deal with it. Stop overthinking this, pussy isn't the end all be all of the universe.
>Hustle
Find something you like and put in the effort to make yourself better, women like a man with passion and its a great way to make friends. You like music production, museums, working out, playing sports, artistic endeavors? Anything in which you place your effort and time into to better yourself is by default a hustle. Unless you mean a side business in which case I aint the one to help you.
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>>22602969
thanks for the reply man, just curious how did you figure out the way of female nature did u you read books about it or just figure it out through experiences and peoples insight?
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>>22603130
Here's my personal PDF list
>The Power of Now
>Models by Mark Manson
Any of his works honestly
>Intimate Connections

I'm only 25 but I've got this shit figured out, I've said this a million times, its all trial and error. A few terrible relationships will make you do a whole lot of research to avoid doing it again. But a lot of it is common sense, and if you've ever watched a romcom or some sappy TV show, do the complete opposite. Men have been taught to be overcompensating Simps by the movie and Television industries. It may take time before you truly get the hang of it.
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Little personal update with my chick if y'all even give a shit lmao. Notice how she says things first and I roll with it and poke fun? Do the same. Dont be too serious they'll get bored.
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>>22575213
Tell her how many kids you want to have with her
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>>22603257
Don't even try it simp. That's terrible advice, I already answered him like 2 days ago. Fuck outta here.
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>>22603213
I don't get to that stage. It usually ends on tinder /bumble.
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How do you keep the spark going if all you can do is text the person b/c of lockdown and their anxiety of leaving the house period.



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