Will you steal the Kiruko cutout?>yes / yes
>>252986089this anime is for alphabet people
>>252986089I'd rather steal something else of Kiruko's
>>252986793Your mom is for alphabet people
>>252987028You're holding the gun the wrong way.
>>252987068Suicide by laser gun would be hardcore honestly
I've become so much like Kiruko Takehaya, it's scary.I wear white jackets, verbally lead on teenage boys, and physically sleep with my childhood friends. When I look in the mirror, I can't help but kiss it (which isn't weird because i actually think of my big sister.) I grew my hair out long because I don't care so now I have to wear it like a girl and I don't care what people think so shut the fuck up Robin! I always leave a loaded gun in my hand, and go out of my way to show it to everyone so they are reminded that I don't need to be protected. When I see cute siblings going out on walks I get mad at them for not being in love like I am. I can't have sex with my boyfriend anymore without forcing him to wear a black wig, which reminds me of both Kiriko and Robin. When I order fast food, I refuse to order french fries because that would be cannibalism. I just keep moving forward, until I get period cramps again.
>>252986089No, I will make a hole in it and use this hole for its intended purpose, and then leave it for everyone to see what this girl is for and how to use her.
>>252988073Just a heads up broski, no one will read this
>>252987178Is this what sex between a man and a woman looks like?
>>252988352can confirm, didn't read it because it got filtered by my anti phoneposter filter
>>252988073what if kirukos growing red hair because it was their mothers hair
Mimihime deserved it
>>252986793no, only faggots can't appreciate this kino anime
>>252986089I want to be Kiruko
>ywn have robin caress your shoulder while seductively whispering your male name into your ear why did he do this
>>252987178You nearly made me fail my 18 month nofap streak by posting that. They're both so FUCKING hot and cute.
>>252989971She is an ugly, dumb whore who needs a good eyebrow trim
>>252990385This is an eyebrow respecter thread your kind is not welcome here
>>252990409is it just me or did anyone else confuse mimihime and kiruko together in the manga at least
>>252987178replace mc with robin for canon and for cuck
Kiruko sexKiruko kill meI need Kiruko
>>252988352newfag detected>>252986793How is this anime for alphabet people? Did you get filtered and immediately quit the anime at the end of episode 3? Or is it because of the kids who grow up without sexual dimorphism? It's not meant to be seen as a good thing.
>>252988073haruki is an adult woman flirting with and falling for a teenage boy 5 years younger than him, does he feel no shame
reasons why kiruko should suffer and be alone:-she is not normal-weird half boy half girl frankenstein creation mutation of science creature - scars!-cries (boys don't cry)-is a siscon (gross!)-is gay (less gross but still) -is american (loves guns) (more gross)-keeps fucking up despite her best efforts to succeed and be a strong independent woman who don't need no man-everyone around her keeps dying LOL!
>>252990965Me offscreen licking her pussy
>>252991130She's built for being saved by a chud like me and turned into a happy housewife.
I need to see fanart of her in the drive jacket
how long until the episode drops on nyaa?
>>252987178no way is (s)he that big>>252989415why did it happen to her but not shiro?
>>252991676approximately 2 hours from now
>>252991751>>252991676guys it airs tommorow morning not today
>>252991751thanks. so it takes an hour after it finishes airing to get uploaded/ripped then?>>252991803oh i'm dumb, just realized that it airs in 24.5 hours, not 0.5 hours
>>252991815set a reminderhttps://www.twitch.tv/thedruidgoku/schedule?seriesID=57f21667-24bd-4288-a62e-bb634a628a79
>>252990409Are those almonds? Sunflower seeds?
>>252992195i don't want to stream shit on twitch, zoomer
do you forgive her, /a/?
Did anyone else feel like episode 8 was almost celebrating and condoning suicide? The scene (which I don't remember being in the manga) after Usami kills himself where Mimihime is in the darkness, then he joins her and she gets giddy. Like "Yay! You killed yourself to be with me now we can be happy together". Felt unneccesary and in bad taste.
>>252992887that's the japanese tv stream retard, the torrent is up right after it's finished streaming
>>252993580Disney Plus is a pro-suicide company.
>>252993580I'm sure in chapter 83 we'll get some twist reveal showing that they were just manipulated into loving each other or something and their deaths were pointless in the end
>>252993937>tthey were just manipulated into loving each otherIsn't that obvious at this point
>>252990965I'll make real woman out of you.
>>252990177is this harukis hand
>>252994210No, but Robin must have been thinking about doing him one day. Brother and sister learned about adulthood from one person, it sounds romantic.
>>252995312maybe kiriko was protecting haruki by letting him use her body instead...
>>252993580it happens in the manga but not following his suicide
>>252996715This feels like one of those anime where all the foreshadowing was way more subtle and drip fed in the manga, and not just because it's a monthly series
>>252996803it's nothing special, just another horny series
>>252996803well it happens like the chapter right afterwards after the suicide there's this whole bit where they talk to the lady again who didn't die and then kiruko has her first period
>>252996883That’s the thing, the foreshadowing is treated by a lot of mangafags as the crown jewel of the series while I think it’s cool but I’m not blown away by it yet
Totori's 13 y.o tummy.
>>252996803who's that whore on the leftthat wasn't actually in an episode, right?
>>252996995good age but they increased her bust too much, and put too many clothes on her, not as hot
>>252993974They were manipulated into boning, but their love is real, stinker.
>>252997032I rewatched the episode to see if he was left handed and decided to make a shitpost while I was at it
>>252986793Bitch you know it
>>252986793Someone edit Kiruko bathing in alphabet soup please. Or I’ll do it when I’m on my pc.
>>252997069I honestly don't get mangafags complaining about the removal of Totori saying her age. In the same episode she states she was born after the Disaster, which happened 15 years ago (directly stated in episode 2). Anyone with functioning brain can conclude she is most likely younger than 15.
>>252997437I'm not liking any of these top down pictures of alphabet soup that I'm finding
>>252993580>implying you wouldn't kill yourself in Shiro's shoes
>>252993432Chadsword Satou forgives all. Even if it involves getting covered in piss.
>>252997379who did we see sitting in the shower like that? or where's that from?
>>252987006his cool jacket
>>252997820Summertime rendering I think
>>252997464it's a lot hotter when a little slut admits it outright
>>252997937ah, thanks. should i watch it? does it involve cute teens in suggestive poses?
>>252997820The Kirukoposting is starting to get out of hand.
>>252996986it's not just foreshadowing (that's extremely rare in manga and to this extent) but the way he can make one story have multiple dimensions to it due to the foreshadowing and timeline shenanigans, it really is designed to be reread (and not just spoiled online)
>>252998184also if you're just watching the anime it's barely started anything yet
>>252993580I felt like it was celebrating it and glorifying it like it was a crowning moment of love and romanticism that he wanted to follow her and not leave her alone, even in death. But it is hard not to agree with that and admire them...
>>252998286The blur bothers me
>>252987178Nigga, that's gay.
>>252987178Just some fun between bros.
>>252998246It's foreshadowing how Kiruko will willingly choose to die for the sake of letting Robin revive Kiriko inside of her as an ultimate expression of "love", this will happen after she loses her gun and feels like total dead weight to Maru in every regard.Maru will of course stop this before it's too late i hope...This climax is so heavily foreshadowed by so many things at this point that i would bet significant money on it.
>>252998326I'll see if I can find a better one!
>>252998460Robin deserves happiness, he protected his girlfriend and was glad that she was alive. I hope she gives him a child.
>>252998003>should i watch it?It's an action thriller wrapped in mysteries with similar production values.>does it involve cute teens in suggestive poses?That I can guarantee.
>>252998460if she loses her gun she might just end it lol girl is hanging off a thread
>>252998622Ahh yes, this is also the face i make when i'm "glad".
>>252998326Less blur on the soup she's in. Is she too big?
>>252998003It's not as good as Tengoku but it's still a fun watch + it has the cutest evil loli ever made.
>>252998675Anyone will be shocked to learn that the beloved girl whom they thought was dead is alive. With all the gender reassignment surgeries, body part replacements, and so on, Robin might suspect that some pervert is masquerading as his girlfriend.
>>252998728Great job much better
>>252987178>That 3rd oneHoly fuck thats lewd
Examples of Insecure Attachment Behavior-Frequent bouts of inconsolable crying, difficulty regulating own emotions-Being overly clingy with parents/caregivers-Being especially clingy in romantic relationships or friendships-Masking emotions-Coming across as extremely independent when in reality craves attention-Low self-esteem-Refusing to ask for help, pushing away others instead of allowing them to get close-Being fearful of abandonment-Frequently seeking reassurance that everything is okay within a relationship-Hesitant to become intimate with other people
>>252998796>Robin might suspect that some pervert is masquerading as his girlfriend.well he was right, it was that pervert Haruki
>>252998796I mean that's one possible interpretation but i think the truth has more to it, he looks disgusted or upset because he actually is, upon realizing that it's "Kiriko".There's a reason the author went out of his way to basically ask the audience "what did this expression even mean?" later, Ishiguro isn't someone who would make this reaction the final panel of a chapter and then call back to it later if it was just temporary confusion with no meaning beyond that.
>>252986089why is kiruko so cute bros..
>>252998056You're right, we need to start Maruposting too
>>252998968> basically ask the audience "what did this expression even mean?"And then, based on the answers, he can correct the plot or add some point to develop this topic.
>>252999070maru kinda cute they make a good pair
>>252999070Maru naked among the potatoes... very ero.
>>252999110what readership answers lol all the online comments even in japan are always just URGHGHH I WADDA KILL THAT DASTARDLY ROBIN FUCK YOU ISHIGURO YOU FUCKING SKUNK!!!!! readers don't even notice like 99% of the panels or questions in that arc they just forget panels like that or think its ntr bait
>>252999110Sure we're all just guessing, it could also have meant something totally different but i really don't think it's something like "oh he just thought it was some weirdo in there" because that wouldn't really have any consequences beyond itself and also he seemed to genuinely be surprised that brain transplants are even actually possible so i doubt that would be his first thought.
>>252999070>not handing over the potatomaru
>>252999196It literally is NTR baitThe only valid option was for Robin to die on the spot and they ruined it. No amount of plot progression will make the readers forget about what he's done
>>252999366Robin staying alive is necessary for the plot so that >>252998460 can happen.
>>252999421>when he saw kiruko and robin
>>252999207yes something everyone always forgets is he didn't know brain transplants existed before meeting kiruko, unless he was just faking being surprised (most definitely not)its odd how long "robin got brain swapped" theories stuck around for years despite obviously being wrong from the get go
>>252999638>its odd how long "robin got brain swapped" theories stuck around for yearsLol that so obviously wasn't the case even on my first time reading, people are retarded.Everything Robin did was absolutely in character, especially the hiruko experiments, which "mysteriously" also were happening at every other place he stayed at, just never attributed to him ("human experimentation" being attributed to the doctor, the immortal order being known for man eater grafting after he stayed there for a while).
>>252999759And Robin didn't want Kiriko getting close to the doctor, not because he didn't trust him, but because he didn't want her snooping around his experiments.
>>252986089Will I cut a hole in the Kiruko cutout's mouth?>yes / yes
>>252998907how do you cure this?
>>253001552I need the answer to this too please
>>253001825You already know the answer to curing her, Maru: >>252987178
>>253001552Several days of non-stop sex to overload her brain. After that, prolonged sex with the use of special drugs to record new personality.
>>253001874I think someone already tried that....
>>253001552prolonged exposure to secure attachment
>>252998003Did you like Higurashi?If you haven't seen it you should watch that first and THEN watch Summertime Rendering
>>253001552A hug and some fresh air will fix most issues
>>252998361It's not gay if it's between homies.
>>252998460I wonder if robin talked to kiriko during the act and so she's trying to do it herself from the inside
>>253002669Nah no way, Kiriko would never do that, she would probably wanna kill Robin for this if he succeeded.
>>253002737Yeah, Kiriko would've snapped the body out of it and killed Robin barehanded for what he did to her little bro/sis.
>>253002808>>253002737we know barely anything about kirikoremember that first memory? "haruki always sleeps really well, so..."it would be fitting if all of her old idols were evil
>>253002476>Did you like Higurashi?NTA but I dropped it back in the day because I hated torture and excessive pain.
>>253002952She crashed into a man eater unarmed and with no plan because Haruki getting killed would be such an unbearable nightmare to her, she obviously genuinely cared about him.
>>252987178I have a throbbing erection now
>>253002979Summertime isn't like that, i think he just mean it's comparable in terms of how the mystery is structured.
>Tokyo hit by an earthquakeWhy cant we just have nice things
>>253003091Just a 6.2, that's nothing to them. There were no major damages.
>>253003143I just hope its not a foreshock
>>253003189Maybe or maybe not, no point in always worrying about things you can't control. The yamato race is resilient, they'll be fine regardless.
>>253003091Good to get it out of the way now so it doesn’t happen tomorrow.
>>253003004maybe robin shot her cause she was the real mob boss
>>253002745imagining episode 6 with this is so cute wtf
>>253003870>not imagining the entire show like that
Imagining Kiruko blasting my head off
>>253003989I was imagining them smushing each other's cheeks and also the heart pose and Haruki trying to look cool with the fun and then getting fondled but yeah that works
>usami>that was mimihimeWell fuck.
>>253002952I feel we are due to see Kiriko's inevitable dark side.>haruki always sleeps really well, so...I feel pretty confident this is going to relate to that as well.
>>252986793Nips have already been accepting trans stuff, not surprising
>>2529871782nd ones my favorite, I love kissing
>>253002045who could possibly deal with kiruko for a prolonged period of time? marus gonna get sick of her baggage and indecision eventually, it's only been a few months together after all
>>253004945And that's a good thing.
>>253005145This post was made by a woman.
>>253005201Not likely. The writing style is very male. Unless its a woman writing that way on purpose.
I'm going to sex Mimihime
>>252987178catbox doesn't work for me and it never does. why do their security certificates always fuck up?
>>253005145I might agree if it were written in more superficial way and felt like wish fulfilment, but their relationship is more dimensional than that IMO. I think it's pretty obvious Maru cares about Kiruko in way that isn't just romantic or a little schoolboy crush. The manga's done a good job portraying how they trust each other and connect as friends and partners in a very unforced way. Honestly the idea that their relationship ends because one of them dies seems more likely than Maru deciding Kiruko isn't worth the trouble.
>>253005201refer to >>252991130it's only natural Maru will move on and find a nice normal real girl to settle down with. maybe that helm girl she was pretty handy
>>253005951Go to bed Kiruko
>>253005754This little bugger
>>252993580>Felt unneccesary and in bad taste.Literally kill yourserlf now you double negro.There is nothing wrong with suicide. As long as it is a well thought decision.
>>252987178this is gay
>>253006026I'm not kiruko don't be stupid just stating some common sense facts. if she didn't have her gun she'd be useless and already is useless even with it Actually I bet Maru would really prefer Kiriko if he ever got to know her, she was a true angel, if only there was some way to bring her back....
>>253006028Maybe try a different browser, ive never had an issue with catbox
>>253005910I liked them doing the little tag team passoff in the last chapter
>>252987178Oh shit I didn't have the last two. Fuck that last one is golden. Nothing hotter than a couple looking down at their work
>>252990450All according to keikaku
>>252997395>8 hours till the FBI jokeowari da
>>252988352ive read it, becauseI've become so much like Eren Yeager, it's scary.i just keep moving forward
>>252988073>I grew my hair out long because I don't care so now I have to wear it like a girl and I don't care what people think so shut the fuck up Robin! lol she even takes care of her hair like a girl
>>253006177No way!! Thats just dumb Maru would never think that about Kiruko and even if Kiriko came back I wouldn't like her better
>>253006177>If I didn't have the super beam I'd just be dead weight for MaruThat's something that Kiruko would think. But I don't think Maru would agree. Kiruko defeated the fish man-eater with the power of weed, after all.
>>253005145You take that back.
this is what a normal healthy 18 year old boy looks like in 2039
>>253009021Based pic the world desperately needs more art of Kiruko in slutty or girly clothes.
>>253009021How is Kiruko not a prostitute? The first thing any sensible male would do upon waking up as a woman is experience back to back orgasms
>>253010123Did you get the impression she was a sensible male when she kissed her reflection or when she danced around and did heart hands
>>253010123>whoring his sister's precious bodyKiriko will curse him with baldness from the afterlife.
>>253010374That's dirty little whore behavior, she needs to commit to that
>>253012217She’s only a whore for her big sis.
>>253012217Agreed, we need more Kiruko fan service
>>253012477Only if it’s between her and the mirror.Kiruko’s body belongs to her sister.
>>253012679in helm arc kiruko actually starts to refer to it as "my body" which was pretty big step (even though it's a depressing one)
>>253012983I love her so much,,,
>>253012983ah but she also says "my body is my sister's but my brain is mine... but u let robin take my body..." it's still a bit schizo at the same time she still thinks kirikos there alive inside her and relying on that for stability
>>253013130Kiriko is alive, alright. Just not only inside her…
>>253013130>she still thinks kirikos there alive inside her Yeah haha that would be crazy.......
Maybe AI slop isn't so bad.
Hey... wait a minute... that logo looks familiar...
>>253013940That's still pretty bad.
what do you guys think will happen back at Osakawill harukis old friends be there? will they recognize her?>>253014156the facility symbol is practically begging for kiruko to have to shoot it for the final boss kill. classic legend of zelda mechanics
>>253002808She can try. Robin will just rape her again.
>>253014720>will they recognize her?I'm curious to see Ran's reaction to seeing her childhood crush in a female body. Will she still be attracted? Is she going to be jealous of Maru? After sheepishly telling Haruki she was sorry for not being as pretty as Kiriko, now Haruki/Kiruko IS the pretty one.
>>253013940It doesn’t capture the essence of the potato enough
Discussion in these threads suddenly narrowed. I can't fully put a category on it in words, but what I mean is that there was a recent shift in these threads where now, most of the discussion is centered on Kiruko's psychological issues and I guess relating to that, her relationship with Maru and Robin. There's so much more in this series worth talking about.
>>253015317The potatoes are the heart and soul of this series, so 99% of the discussion and shitposting revolving around them is only natural.
>>253015317Makes sense that new fans are going to talk about the simpler topics, especially if they're still on their first watch/read. Nothing is stopping you from talking about other stuff. Eventually they'll join in.
>>253015317Yeah but everyone wants to fuck the cute girl*. It's the inevitable fate of all constant threads, to center around the carnal desire to fuck one of more cute girls* in the series.
>>253015317yeah there is anon were just on a kiruko kick at the moment maybe cause of the anime highlighting some cute moments. also I'm not even sure how much spoilers to mention in these sorts of threads so mentioning specific arcs or facility lore stuff feels like too specific to being up maybe, I dunno.what do you wanna talk about? I've been thinking of doing another reread specifically focusing on hiruko stuff I probably missed the first time around
>>253015439>all constant threadsI’d rather not have a constant general but I assumed I was in the minority again
>>252986089>>google Kiruko daki>>nothing
>>253015430I don't think Kiruko's mental state is one of the "simpler topics", there's a huge amount of depth to it and pondering her circumstances and themes also means thinking about much of the rest of the story (hiruko mechanics, Robin's research, Kiriko's past etc.).It seems to me like people here are making some pretty good guesses about where the plot will go based on thinking about what would make sense thematically for Kiruko.
>>253015574>still no official Maru jacket
>>253015574What i want is a Kiruko Minecraft skin. Someone make it happen please.
>>252994210In what part does this screenshot runs anons? Never noticed it before
>>253015574>Buys the jacket>The guy who bought it starts understanding women>The lesbo-girl who bought it starts liking menIs there a way CHADbin can stop winning
>>252986089doing unspeakable things to the Kiruko cutout
>>253015976>The lesbo-girl who bought it starts liking menNo. That jacket is for lesbians to RP as Kiriko x Kiruko.
Is this the thread where we discuss the latest chapter or do you make manga specific threads for that
>>253016117we see so little of kiriko but whenever I look at her I can't see kiruko in her at all
>>253016716The chapter thread archived yesterday but you can still talk about it, using spoilers to be on the safe side.
>>252987178ruined by cowtits
>>253016788They're roughly that same as her canon size.
>>253016788Kiruko is a titmonster
>>252987178>maru we can't, I'm a guy inside>however, your sister isn't>dude I think I'm gay now>let's just pretend you're still kiruko
>>253016788She's canonically a shortstack, 5'3" (160 cm) with big tits.
>>253015759From the anime, IIRC between Haruki losing consciousness at the racetrack and when he wakes up in Kiriko's body
>>253016865it's a game of pretending, maruthey used to play it before the calamityit's about creating like...a heavenly del-something... a really pleasant illusion, yeah that's it
>>253016884Nihonjin are so short...
>>253016719Yeah because she doesn't have the doofus Haruki energy in her
>>253015616>It seems to me like people here are making some pretty good guesses about where the plot will goHaven't you been through enough from this manga that you should know by now that you shouldn't assume you know where the plot will go?
>>252987178That first one has to be my favorite, even though there's no sex. There's something about the intimacy that totally turns me on. The way he pulls her close, how you can tell he is enjoying her smell, the embarrassed and aroused blushing on their faces, they way his arms are wrapped around her. It comes across as so loving and tender and warm. You can almost feel her warm and soft body as well as her soft hair. Just all in all a great image
>>253017036Making guesses and being proven right or even better, WRONG (because the manga will almost always be better than whatever whack theories randos come up with) is part of the fun, anon...
>>253017036On the contrary, there have been a lot of very good theories that turned out to be true based on the hints the manga gives. Fish Kuku, Hoshino is Mimihime, pregnant Tokio, Sawatari is the Doctor, and Maru is Tokio's son, are all theories that anons correctly guessed way before they were revealed in the manga. Deducing the future is a big part of the fun.
>>253017036What >>253017113 said. Half the point of a mystery puzzle manga like this is trying to piece things together and what makes TD in particular igreat that sometimes you might actually be right, because there actually is a ton of really well implemented foreshadowing for almost everything.
>>253016909Oh cool, thanks fren.
>>253015464I don't want a constant general either since it inevitably brings down the quality of discussion, and I think the push for a constant Tengoku general is part of the reason for the narrowing range of discussion. I feel like I'm hearing the same ideas constantly being repeated in a short span of time.
>>253017298I've made a few of the recent threads but I'm totally ok with chilling out a bit on it.Looking at poster numbers it seems like it's mostly the same regulars here every day so we could all agree on having less threads if people think that's a better idea.
>>253017177so much of the manga are the characters guessing at theories and piecing together random pieces too but getting half of it wrong at the same time Ishiguro very deliberately decided to make the readers the main Detective Character of the story and is super aware of what kind of theories readers will have about characters and plots at any given time (Tokio gender stuff early on etc) and intentionally plays with that. >>253017298probably new fans just really wanting to talk about the series they never got to talk about before vs not enough new content due to monthly statusnew episode in 12 hours though!
>>253017413I'll stop as well I think I'm all theoried out
>>253017430It feels like most new fans are either avoiding the threads or shitposting to be honest.
>>253017159>>253017177>there have been a lot of very good theories that turned out to be true based on the hints the manga givesThis is true, but these are mainly specific points that are foreshadowed to let observant readers figure out. As the plot goes on, it becomes increasingly obvious until everyone knows about it that it's practically already revealed before it's explicitly stated like fish Kuku and Tokio being Maru's mom. That's different from >Shiro killing himself is foreshadowing that Kiruko will eventually "kill" herself by letting Robin bring back Kiriko inside her, but she will get stopped by MaruI'm not going to harp on that specific point, but it seems to me that the discussion has turned to more of that kind of flavor.
>>253017585>It feels like most new fans are either avoiding the threads or shitposting to be honest.Can't blame them these threads are spoiler central, i read the manga just because i couldn't stand how not just here but also the rest of the internet just didn't give a fuck about spoiling this story.
>>253017620Yeah I guess that's true. There are a lot of new theories that border on fan fiction with the amount of assumptions needed.
>>252986089Honestly I wouldn't mind piloting my dead sister's body.
>>253017620>>Shiro killing himself is foreshadowing that Kiruko will eventually "kill" herself by letting Robin bring back Kiriko inside her, but she will get stopped by MaruIt's an extrapolation from the Kiriko hiruko theory the Shiro stuff just also happens to line up thematically a bit
>homely japanese girl with a huge forehead turns into an adorable, potato-faced girl with big tits when her brother's brain is transplanted into her bodyWhat did they mean by this?
>>253017827The Kiruko theory is also a stretch even considering the cave thing.
>>253018026Eh the only big stretch is how she would have a consistent supply of hair dye imo. lol
>>253018009Male hormones translated into increased fatty tissue production
>>252999421>mfw the rape scene will usher in a new wave of animeonly kusoposts
>>253018349And it will be beautiful.
>>252988073>When I order fast food, I refuse to order french fries because that would be cannibalism. My fucking sides
>>252997032That's Mio and you take that back, she's perfect, even if her show kinda falls apart.
>>253019974Wrong her show got much better as we got more Haine scenes
>>253019974Mimihime is more useful than that hairy loser
Since I've voiced my complaints, I'll add something constructive to thread. Do you think heaven exists and if it has anything to do with the original hiruko or hiruko cave? Also, instead of trying to make predictions, let's go in the opposite direction. Looking back, is there anything about Ishiguro's writing (or even the anime) you appreciate. Try not to get boxed into the foreshadowing framework. I was shipping Taka and Anzu before they were outright implied to be into each other. Then I thought, "Wait, how much screentime did they even share together before then." That's when I realized Ishiguro intentionally led the reader to feel that way subliminally.
>>253020414Drawing characters like Mimihime that look lethargic but actually are full of courage and have a bright personality
>>253020414Heaven is unironically located underneath a small island off the coast of Wakayama City
>>253020414>Do you think heaven exists?
A little off topic but has anyone read the short story "A Pail of Air"? I felt like this manga (and the general theme of "daily life in a ruined world") really reminded me of it. It's still one of my favorites.
>>253020642I can't read
>>252986089I’d steal the hat if I could
>>253020642This it?https://www.gutenberg.org/files/51461/51461-h/51461-h.htmPretty interesting. It's like the dark souls of scifi
>>253020938>It's like the dark souls of _
>>253020414I know it's a topic that's been discussed to death here already but I just really love the way he handled the topic of Kiruko's gender.He took a stupid fetish meme and from that crafted one of the most grounded, complex and relatable characters I've ever seen in manga, all without making it some cringeworthy, obvious allegory for western LGBT thought.It's such a cool and interesting examination of what even defines the self.Also she's top cute and I will marry her.
>>253020956I was memeing of course but also if you start reading it makes sense lolIshiguro has claimed the 1930s japanese sci-fi detective novel "Dogra Magra" to be a dominant influence on tengoku howeverhttps://www.themodernnovel.org/asia/other-asia/japan/kyusaku-yumeno/dogra-magra/
>>253020956you dropped your soijak image sir
All I want is to be beaten and raped by KirukoWhy would it be rape? Because I'm still confused if my boner for her is gay or not and she'll make fun of me for it the whole time.Then she blow my head off with the laser gun.
>>253021184What makes you think that's in any way wojak related?
>>253021280She wouldn't do that she's the ultimate bottom.
>>253021309She would put my hard dick into her pussy and call me a faggot
>>253021537anon im sorry to say but the girls or 'girls' you want most to be hyper dominant towards you are almost always the ones absolutely least capable of ever even remotely being so
>>253021537I think you would get more of what you're looking for with Robin
>>253021584Wait is she straight up touching his crotch...
>>253021584>>253021607Either way I'll become one of those monster things and she'll blow my head off
>>253020473>final page is >>253020492 but on a quiet beach hidden on the edge of time
>>253021690anon sorry but the last person to touch and destroy you will be maru>>253021634yes lol as a flirty joke, and when maru sits up because he senses danger outside she gets terrified he didn't like her touching him and apologizes. thats very bottom sorry
>>253020938Yeah, that's the one. I have a massive soft spot for stories where people do their best in the worst situations.
>>253021792>anon sorry but the last person to touch and destroy you will be maruNOI WILL BE OBLITERATED BY KIRUKOI WILLSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXO
>>253021792I'm not the guy asking for domme Kiruko i was just surprised she would do that...
>>253021912I'm so ready for the Tokio upgrade
>>253021833yeah she started to change a bit and pursue maru more actively post volume 6>>253021952hair!
>>253022007Wait where is this screenshot from it wasn't on the official twitter
>>253022035right here anon!https://twitter.com/tdm_anime/status/1662263487316504576
>>253022035It's on tdm_animehttps://twitter.com/tdm_anime/status/1662263487316504576
>>253022073>>253022052Gomen I'm legally blind idk how i missed this
>>253022096Don't worry, I have boomer reaction time which got me ninjaed twice in a row
Is there an anime thread yet for ep. 9?
>>253022142Isn't the episode like 8 hours away
>>253022142no its like 8 hours from nowshould make a new thread right before it airs tho since theres so many spoilers here for anime onlies
>>253020414I like the way Ishiguro manipulates the readers. He likes to play with the reader's assumptions so a lot of the twists end up making me go "Oh right, of course".
>>253022189That's a bad lesson phsiognomy is real
>>253017159you missed the basement monster as Ohma
>>253022262It was obvious the instant they introduced her to be fair
>>253020642>daily life in a ruined worldI find that to be a common theme in manga, especially the traveling variant. The most prominent one is Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou, but it doesn't quite fit "ruined world" with how gentle and relaxing the setting is. Even though it's post-apocalyptic it's not so much a world reeling from the apocalypse as much as it is one that has already rebuilt after it. Also, while there is traveling, it's only a small part of it. Then there's obviously Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryokou, but it's not quite the same because the world is a lot emptier. The one I actually find most similar to Tengoku Daimakyou is Hitsugi Katsugi no Kuro. Despite not being post-apocalyptic, it may as well be a ruined world with how bleak it is. It also has a heavy focus on traveling and a nonlinear narrative that requires you to actually pay attention to understand what's going on like TD.
>>253022262I wouldn't really count that since that monster was shown before Ohma was introduced and the connection was pretty obvious soon after.
>>253022250No it isn'tYou fell for pseudoscientific social engineering
>>253022250The guy with glasses isn't always the smartest guy in the room. I know that for sure.
>>253022369I bet you look like someone who would say that>>253022399True
>>253022335Oh, and there's one more similarity I forgot. It's by another mangaka whose other most well-known work is a slice of life about schoolgirls.
https://twitter.com/masakazuishi/status/1662248665451225088ahhhh he posted some of this afternoon cover drawing...
>>253022711the full pic:
>>253022427And you look like someone dumb enough to fall for whatever "experts" tell you to
>>253022450But Kuro is more well-known than GA.
>>253022942Is it? GA at least has an anime. I said "other" anyway as in not counting Kuro.
>>253006039I think it would be a well thought decision for you to kill yourself
>>253022813You sound vaccinated
Pregnancy arc confirmed yet?
>>253022711>>253022738Need beautiful Kiruko posters like this.
>>253023381Same i need something to replace the AOT poster i had up.
>>253023047True about the anime, but it seems that more people are nevertheless familiar with Kuro, at least on /a/.>I said "other" anyway as in not counting Kuro.I am illiterate. Please understand.
>>253023405>the AOT poster i had upISHYGDDT
>>253022942>>253023566I think that has more to do with the recent Kuro daily dump. GA also had a dump but that was in a time when those kinds of dumps weren't very popular. Outside of /a/ I think GA is more popular.
>>252987178This is gay
>>252987028ranch or cool ranch
>>253023339I think so, if author doesn't get cold feet. It will be very interesting to observe the changes in Kiruko's behavior. It can also help Maru grow up and become more reliable.
>>253023796Ishiguro please don't make Maru raise another man's kid he doesn't deserve that
>>253023826It would make the story more interesting though.
>>253023796That would be so boring, man. She can’t even handle a period.
There's been a lot of fan art recently but I have to appreciate this guy for being basically the only guy making Tengoku art before the anime aired.
>>253024102In Japanese gender bender stories, pregnancy always mind breaks the victim into abandoning their previous identity and becoming full mommy. Always. There are no exceptions.Robin is a genre savvy hero. He saw the situation for what it was and knew he had to bust a nut. Since abortion is illegal in Japanese works, he figured it was a slam dunk into turning Kiruko into a proper lady.
>>253024102Imagine what kind of conflict her pregnancy will bring, besides being pregnant in a destroyed world is quite interesting, at the same time it will be symbol of rebirth. There is robot that will help the baby to be born.
>>253024291I hope Maru raises Robin's baby like a good boy.
>>253024188Cute art but i wish artists didn't draw her with the typical super wide anime eyes. Her slanty asian eyes and round face are her best assets.
>>253024182Strike me down, and I shall return more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
Damn it I shouldn't have gone into this thread as an anime-only for Tengoku Daimakyou. I didn't know Kiruko was actually going to fuck Robin. Now my whole experience watching this shit is ruined. Fuck! I might actually drop it right now and not even read the manga after the anime is done airing.
>>253025769When did you first post in this thread?
>>253021952Why couldn't her hair stay like this? It's so much better.
>>253005951>pretty handyI see you, anon.
>>252990965Her VA nailed that part perfectly damn.
Maru a cute.
>>253025769>I didn't know Kiruko was actually going to fuck Robin.S/he's gonna have his baby too.
>>253025769Don't worry they fuck as a friends, not as a lovers and it was an experiment. Besides, she wasn't a virgin by this point. So she didn't lose anything and didn't get worse.
>>252993580suicide is the best way to die
>>253026992>didn't get worse
>>253027057She can give birth again and this time the child can be from Maru.
>>253027086Maru is in the friendzone, bro. She doesn't like him that way.
wait how long in universe has it been since the rape sesh?if she was knocked up, she would know by now
>>252986089Dude, it's still 3h19m before the episode. Why did you make this general already a day in advance?
>>253027229 a couple weeks we've discussed this so many times before but a pregnancy story would stop their adventure for like a year or two cause they wouldn't be able to do shit so it'll have to happen at the end of the story imo it might be an angle the author wants to explore eventually
>>253027257>a pregnancy story would stop their adventure for like a year or twononsense
>>253027239we just wanted to girl chat about kiruko
>>253027229It can take 4-6 weeks before any symptoms of pregnancy
So will there be anything that can compete with Tengoku this year?
>>253027286it's funny kiruko didn't even make a single friend in all her 5 years of working until Maru came around
>>253027317We'll be lucky if anything meaningfully competes with it this decade
>>253027327She shuts herself off from people pretty hard, it took someone as shameless, honest, horny and straightforward as Maru to get her to connect to anyone again.
>>253027348Oops meant for >>253027326
it would be so funny if it twists the Tokio story around by making kiruko start feeling sick one day but actually she is pregnant but also has the Hiroku disease too
>>253027327Made in Abyss season 2 >>> Tengoku
>>253027507MIA is more of a tearjerker and has better music but Tengoku is a better story and has far superior characters
>>253027576>Tengoku is a better story and has far superior charactersMy sides.
>>253027613It's true I'm sorry to say. Also MIA1 was better than 2.
>>253027507>>253027576Y'all is a bunch of pedos.
>>253016884Where'd you get this from?
>>253016884omg Maru and kiru looking at each otherrrrrr cute cute cute
What do you think about the anime's opening, anon? I've been listening to it a lot lately.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuAcdIqcanA
Kiruko is the definition of a transman. A person who identifies as male but is inside a birthing person body.
>>253028377The ending is a lot better (best ED of the season). This isn't even top 5 OPs of the season.
>>253028574And you are the definition of retarded faggot that should kill themselves
>>253027673>not loving abyss potatoes>in a potato lovers thread
>>253028643It's hard to top Yoasobi but I wouldn't rank it that low compared to the others from this season!
>>253027239We have zero self control regarding Kiruko please understand
being able to have a cute boyfriend like Maru... do you think kiruko feels guilty of realizing that his sister dying was the best thing that ever happened to her
I'll make an anime only thread ten minutes before airing
>>253028574>birthing personkeeping our fingers crossed
>>252986089DOES MC REALLY LOSE TO A RAPIST?
Waking up inside Kiruko's body would be a nightmare haha, I'm glad it'll never happen to me
>>253029068>It's hard to top Yoasobi but I wouldn't rank it that low compared to the others from this season!Hilarious, because I wouldn't put OinK in top 5 either, in fact below Tengoku.
>>253029246Dot for him?
>>253029249>MC goes to kill rapist>heroine immediately breaks free from her restraints (after three days of rape)>stops MC from easily killing rapist, allowing rapist to escape and do more rapes/experiments elsewhere>heroine foreshadowed to be pregnant with rapist's offspring (lots of pregnancy flags already raised)>will probably have it and have MC raise itIt's all better in context though.
>>253029306so mc becomes a cuck and raises the child of the bull? i dont know if i want to continue watching then
>>253029246>>253029269not all heroes wear capes
Kiruko’s psychological profile:>insecure attachment style that makes her clingy, needy, or fearful of abandonment>dissociative disorder that makes her detach from her body or reality when faced with trauma or stress>gender identity disorder that makes her uncomfortable with her biological sex and gender role>complex trauma that stems from losing her sister, undergoing a body transplant, and being sexually assaulted>a low self-esteem and a high sense of guilt that makes her feel unworthy or undeserving of love or happiness>strong survival instinct and a resourceful personality that helps her adapt to the harsh post-apocalyptic world>loyal and caring nature that makes her protective of the people she loves
>>253029344It's okay, that part won't be covered by season 1 of the anime, and the rest will never get an anime adaptation because Disney killed it
>>253029363Trust the plan Disneybro.
>>253029344>mc becomes a cuck and raises the child of the bull?not officially a cuck yet, /a/ is still waiting for confirmation of the pregnancyforecast looks good though
>>253029344>>253029443Why would Ishiguro do this... I thought he liked happy relationships with no dumb NTR shenanigans...
>>253029443>the real heaven is the child we raised along the way
>>253029395I don't have to trust anything, there's 0 chance this made money.
>>253029515What about volume sales?
>>253029471Didn't Hotori also cheat on Sanada?
>>253029357>>herThat's a guy stop misgendering him
>>253029534Volume sales matter fuck all, someone would have to buy the license to air season 1 from Disney.
>>253029543she will never be a man again
>>253029357And Maru for comparison:>trusting, confident, and independent.>has a resilient personality that helps him cope with adversity and trauma>his open-minded nature makes him interested in the world and its mysteries>has a positive and hopeful outlook>higher self-esteem>has a powerful and unique ability>loving and compassionate nature that makes him protective of the people he cares aboutIn conclusion, Maru is the mangaka's self-insert.
>>253029554I thought an anime was supposed to be an elaborate ad for the manga.
>>253029537Not that I'm aware of. They didn't even explicitly end up together in Soremach did they?
>>253029543People have only sexes, not genders. Kiruko is a biological female, her sex is female, and the proper pronouns for Kiruko (the person) are she/her. Only words have genders and the gender of the word "Kiruko" is indeterminate, just like every other Japanese first name, or some English names like "Alex".
She is not going to get pregnant. Pregnancy would totally halt the story for months of not years because pregnant women can't move more than 5 inches a day. It is not going to happen
>>253029357well she sure ain't uncomfortable being a girl
>>253029581Names with the endung "-ko" are mostly female, but still Kiruko is a guy to me until he says "I'm a girl/women" in the anime.
>>253029682kiriko never said "I'm a woman" but you can assume she feels as much because it's obviousevery time kiruko says she's a guy to Maru pre-volume it's like a warding rune, "um are you sure you wanna be with me? I used to be a guy, doesn't that gross you out? you should go find a real girl to settle down with not someone like me"and after vol 6 she doesn't do that really anymore even or call herself haruki anymore, since she ripped up the picture and says she wishes she could become kiriko
>>253029682>Kiruko is a guy to me until he says "I'm a girl/women" in the anime.Fucking this. Whether you are a man or a woman depends on how you identify. nothing else matters. Polfags keep spewing their "biological" nonsense but they cannot even define what is a woman. Every psychologist, gender expert, doctor, ironically even biologists agree that Kiruko is a man (transman).
>>253029627Preggos aren't fragile flowers that miscarry whenever they sneeze, you tard.Besides, it's a universal law that NTR rapists never shoot blanks. Robin's baby is in that womb, and Maru is going to raise it like a good dad.
>>253029788>Preggos aren't fragile flowers that miscarry whenever they sneeze, you tard.They go cross country trekking and fight man eaters for a living, you cannot do that while pregnant
anime only thread>>253029800
>>253029627Her gradual feminization has been constantly highlighted in the anime and manga, and pregnancy is the pinnacle of womanhood. This is what the mangaka wants, it is inevitable.
>>253029574It's funny how many japanese properties are about a straight-shooter kinda guy trying to deal with the baggage of "special" kinds of girls with complicated gender baggageUmineko
>>253029808this thread hasn't even hit the post limit yet
>>253029812>pregnancy is the pinnacle of womanhoodBy Maru at the end of the story. Kiruko's feminazation is incomplete, its too early for pregnancy
>>253029764>after vol 6I'm talking about fucking anime. I won't read this shitty manga.
>>253029841So? it's for people who dont want all these spoilers
>>253029862you're practically begging for spoilers with the "anime only" title, this shit never works
>>253029853>Kiruko's feminazation is incomplete, its too early for pregnancyAre you seriously retarded? The fact that Kiruko is having turmoil over his/her identity is precisely *why* pregnancy should occur. It maximizes the conflict.
>>253029808This thread is anime only too because the op pic is related to the anime.
>>253029896Right but it would come at a bad time in the story. They just found out that they should head towards Osaka. This is a terrible time for the plot to stop and the two of them to hang out around the town in order to raise a child. Also, you're forgetting the whole relevance of Maru being a hiruko and a baby (possibly clone). His plotline is going to intersect with hers through the whole pregnancy thing.
>>253029897A fresh thread when the episode comes out isn't a bad thing.
sad they skipped kiruko's little flashback :(
>>253030594Tender moment and it’s just her.
>>253029363it was likely never going to sell anyways because tengoku is not a popular series with shounen action or drama etc so disney exclusivity helped them make ends meet probably
>>253030741It makes me really worried they'll skip a lot of Robin's scenes now, evne though every panel there is super important. Scenes like that sort of help build up the themes for that and I'm not sure they'll execute it properly if the audience is too shocked.
>>253029357>>253029574>complicated girl>simple guymatch made in heaven
>>253031833I want a complicated Kiruko boyfriend
It won't have a Season 2, isn't it?
>>253032279almost certainly definitely absolutely possibly probably no
>>253029574Maru is actually due for a bad time. Its pretty likely that he will be the clone and that this will trigger his identity crisis. Though depending on how meta you want to get, maybe Ishiguro thinks that we will think that and is planning for the real twist to be that Maru isn't the clone
>>253032482maru's crisis I think will be having to kill someone else (probably yamato or tokio) due to an adults orders, both things which he's said he's been frustrated with in the past (growing up in a gang, usami/hoshio). i dont think he really cares if he's a clone or not as long as he gets to love kiruko.
>>253032549oh yeah also awakening to his fighter lust as with michika will probably do something to him, and also scare kiruko who wants safety and security right now
I wish you guys would stop replying to the FTM tranny baiter who periodically drops into these threads to shit them up.
>>253032780First you have to learn to not make so many threads for them to shit up in the first place
>>253032656>also scare kiruko who wants safety and security right nowDesu it would be the opposite, seeing Maru be all manly and strong would make Kiruko feel safe and aroused
>>253033440nah I think she was a bit freaked out at them fighting each other like they were. maybe it'll remind her of robin brawling as a kid and get ptsd
>>253033471Maybe, though I think she trusts him enough that she was more concerned for his safety. However I also wouldn't be surprised if they had a big argument and Maru, not knowing his own strength, accidentally hurts Kiruko in some way
Episode 9 is out
>>253032369Looks like Kiruko farting fanart
>>253034577Not him but i doubt its current popularity justifies its very high production value from a financial perspective
>>253034694Is it really not that popular? I don't follow much community stuff. This anime is fantastic and one of the best I've seen recently.
>>253034798iirc it's popular among D+ subscribers but niche among Japan as a whole
>>253034798There's not much hype for it, Oshi No Ko's op literally has >100x the views on youtube.
>>253034924I'm not gonna refute your statement but Yoasobi always gets millions of hits on Youtube.
>>253035027Yeah it's not a perfect indicator of their respective success but when one show gets more than 100 million views on its OP + even more on other uploads of it while the other barely has above 1 mill on one upload, i think that gives an idea of the disparity at least
>>253034577It streams exclusively on an unpopular streaming service, and even there it has like 0 marketing.I think that this was just a forgotten project by Disney, they put lots of money into it initially because they thought this was a good way to promote you-know-what in Japan/anime (and it had NTR too), but then they were like "eh fuck it", we don't care about the anime audience yet, we've got bigger issues right now.
>>253029049>MiA>GLT>TengokuAre potatoes the secret to a good story?
>>253035097To be fair Oshi is fucking huge right now, you can't really compare the two shows when it comes to popularity. I mean, you can, but it was always obvious Oshi was going to be huge and tengoku is much more of a niche anime.
Is the kid with ice powers their child?
>>253036978Well shit. I was kind of hopeful at least half of the children from that facility would survive and stay alive until present day, but everyone we see is either already dead on currently dying.
Why are they removing many of the scenes that make it clear how Kiruko doesn't really have a dude brain anymore?
>>252993580No he was killing himself before chapter 32 read the manga anon stop speed reading
>>253037304I don't know why they'd remove such an important aspect of her character. Taking a huff of copium, I'd say they're saving it so they can tie all her identity issues into one episode. But we know that's not going to happen. There were too many little interactions skipped that we can't go back to anymore.
>>253037425If you wanna indulge my schizophrenia for a moment, i think there's a chance Disney actually did negatively influence production to make it seem like more of a trans thing.It really makes no sense to cut those parts otherwise, they're cute, entertaining, not very long and certainly more important than other stuff they could've cut instead, like much of the Totori episode.
>>253037487>seem like more of a trans thing.I simply don't really agree, those interactions are exactly what makes her such an important transsexual character. But I don't want this thread to devolve again, so I'll leave it at that.
>>253036599Don't forget Mou Ippon
>>253037614>>253036599Potatoes need more love.
>>253029537>Didn't Hotori also cheat on Sanada?Okay, I know you guys are obsessed with cuckoldry but now you've officially gone too far with the absolute nonsense you're spewing. Let me put an end to this. There's no indication that Kiruko is pregnant with Robin's child. It's all shitposting. It has always just been shitposting.
>Kiruko gets her first period in years>Then gets raped by RobinI understand where this crackhead of an author is going, and I fucking hate it
>>253029537No. What the hell is wrong with you?
>>253037487>to make it seem like more of a trans thingThe series really is a "trance thing". And I say this as GBfag. Even Onimai is less "trans" then this one.
>>253037790>trance thing>trans thing*
>>253037735And this answers my question... how?>>253037781Good, glad to hear that. I only watched the anime so I was worried that you-know-who would take Hotori's you-know-what.
>>253037586Fair enough sis at least we agree that it was awful to cut this.Actually does make me concerned about how chapter 32 will feel to anime-onlies, i worry it will make much less sense and just feel gratuitous to them, i would hate for Tengoku to be remembered like that by the wider public.>>253037790Even if you think that, the changes make it seem very differently from how it was intended to be.I can't even blame the western anime-onlies that much for calling her a guy and they will probably still do it even after she rips up Haruki's picture, with the way things are going in the adaptation.
>>253037889>I only watched the animeNo you didn't.
>>253037930It didn't interest me enough to read the manga, although I have cute pictures of Hotori from the manga saved. Deal with it.
>>253038019No, you haven't watched Soremachi. You haven't read Tengoku either. Your shitposting makes it incredibly obvious.
>>253038081Ah okay, you're just completely mentally deranged. Should've said so earlier. Don't reply to me again.
Why are there two threads!?!?!!?
>>253038176No, you are mentally deranged. Take your cuck obsession and never shitpost about Tengoku or Soremachi again.
>>253038231The other one was made specifically for anime-only episode 9 watchers because this one is full of untagged spoilers.
>253038240Fuck off shoneshitter schizo. Stop trying to force your nemesis psychosis into my posts.
>>253038317You fuck off. There's absolutely no hint of ntr in Soremachi. Like the other anon said, what the hell is wrong with you?
Not giving you another (You).
>>253038250Sheesh, no chance this will be the Jarman'd thread then. I want my posts to be famous, so I'm using the other treads.
>>253038450Then stop posting and fuck off from these threads.
You're the one who's derailing this thread with your schizo shitposts.
>>253038567The only schizo shitposts derailing this thread are your ntr shitposts.
I didn't make a single NTR post in this thread, you shitposting faggot.
>>253038643Ahem >>253029537 >>253037889You're probably also spamming the narrative that Kiruko is foreshadowed to be bearing Robin's child.
>Strawmanning and projecting
>>253038727???Are you going to claim those posts weren't made by you?
>>253038703>Kiruko is foreshadowed to be bearing Robin's childAll the flags are there, kid.
>>252986089where is amogus?
>>253038987what is the deal with this ayyyy
>>253039374Hah, I knew it was you, you heckin scumbag
>>253039701too smart to live
best thread on /a/
>>253039884It was a good thread until the shitposters came in around 12 hours ago.
>>253039779>youThere are at least three of us cheering on Robin's child.We do it for Abe-san.
>>253041233>We do it for Abe-san.>Robin refused to take responsibilityMaru is the Abe-sama choice
>>253039779We need to replenish population after the great catastrophe. Maru is not suitable for these purposes, his children can become monsters.
Has anyone noticed yet that Miina's vats look like the vat in the robot that's supposedly holding Nata's brain?
>>253041513Abe is speaking collectively to Japanese men, recognizing all their differing strengths. The Robins are virile and willful, hence their obligation to reproduce. The Marus are dutiful and loyal, which makes it their responsibility to raise the children of the reproducers.It's a team effort.
I guess I'm a speed reader, I never got the part where they were operating cram schools until this episode.
>>253041640Why does the robot have nipples
>>253040067>until the shitposters came in around 12 hours ago.That's what makes it a good thread
A thread without at least three dedicated shitposters is a dull affair.
>>253041697Those are just some of the smaller branches. I don't think that's plot important.
>>253045218Those two quickly became fan favorites, eh? So much good art being made.
>>253045187The cleaning robots are so cute, I want one as a pet now.
whack ass, assemble ass, build your own story kind of writing, and what do you get for it? nuthing
>>253045268It's a cute girl and a tall autist. Of course people loved them.
Crazy how they straight-up ruined the whole anime in one episode, this is irrecoverable.The Robinposting after episode 12 is gonna be unbearable and you can't even blame the anime-onlies, they literally lack critical information that makes that whole part of the story make sense, instead of just being gratuitous and awful.
>>253046042BTW if your critical information requires 2 re-reads, it's not critical information. This isn't build a bear.
>>253046312The break a bear scene was fun and I'm tired of hearing that it should've been cut
>>253046356you just know she stinks real fucking goodsmelly messy haired tomboy
>>253046312>requires 2 re-readsIt doesn't though. At this point they have scrubbed far too many examples of Kiruko's inner turmoil, they don't have the build-up required to make her reactions in chapter 32 be understandable or the following changes to her view of herself be believable. It's just gonna be bad no matter how well they execute the episode itself.
>>253046042it's sad bros I'm just gonna tell people to read the manga instead now desu I wonder if Ishiguro approved of all these cuts as like the final editing his story
>>253046526>the following changes to her view of herself be believable>Kiruko's inner turmoilHow can you scrub something that barely exists? It's like scrubbing Kiruko's inner turmoil after chapter 32,33 lol. There is nothing to scrub
>>253046539>I wonder if Ishiguro approved of all these cuts as like the final editing his storyWe know for a fact that he was very involved but the way they've handled today's scene where it was supposed to show the Haruki flashback makes me believe that he was not the highest authority.That scene literally was pointless in the anime.
>>253046356you know I just realized that all points power actually seems more like a 'boy' in personality then Kiruko ever does, at any point
>>253046582They've repeatedly hinted at how she doesn't really view this body as her own yet, despite also clearly being comfortable in it, and how she isn't sure if she's really herself or her sister.That's literally necessary for the Robin scene to make sense, he's specifically targeting those complexes of hers and it's what causes such a shift in her afterwards.None of this was really portrayed in the anime, so the Robin scene will literally just seem like hentai logic mindbreaking.
>>253046807The reason it was cut was because it wasn't necessary and it was weak. Your hints are irrelevant, it's either written in as something with actual weight or it's subtle enough to the point where it can get cut without actual mattering like most of what you call 'characterization', it's just smoke without actual fire.
>>253046924Are we reading the same story? So much of Tengoku's appeal is in its subtle storytelling, almost everything that happens is foreshadowed in meaningful ways and it usually feels great when it clicks, if you don't like subtlety and ambiguity then i don't see what you enjoy about it at all.But whereas most foreshadowing is just fun, in the case of the Robin scene it's literally necessary for the scene to make any sense at all, having the scene without the proper buildup is retarded, it should be cut as well at that point.
>>253047038>almost everything that happens is foreshadowed meaningful waysThat's actually the main issue. Everything foreshadowed is mostly meaningless without actual pay offs. To the point where you can cut all your foreshadowing almost entirely, and still have a story with basically the exact same layers. Because I guarantee the reaction to 32 will be about the same as what it would have been. Because the reveal still works about the same. (there is nothing that feels great when it clicks. This isn't a murder mystery. Everything you find out that 'clicks' is irrelevant. Because the author will tell it to you anyway, if it doesn't click. >whereas most foreshadowing is just funyeah fun quirky, and meaningless, compared to 'meaningful' that you had written two sentences prior. Because the author sets up 32 so poorly, it doesn't matter how many small trashy 'subtle' scenes are put in prior. It's just smoke without fire. You praise subtle story telling but, 32,33, 53-54, are not subtle at all. Or the big reveals are neither subtle either. Build a bear story.
>>253047203>Because I guarantee the reaction to 32 will be about the same as what it would have been. I think you just didn't get that scene if you think that, it literally was the payoff to 31 chapters of her struggling with her identity and her various insecurities.The fact that they cut that buildup out means it goes from a beautifully terrible scene tearing down every established aspect of her character, culminating in her coming out of it as a changed person as a result, to just being a nonsensical mindbreak hentai scene.Not even gonna address the rest of your post because that goes far beyond the scope of the conversation, though it really does make me wonder why you're even here if you don't seem to care much for any of the things that people usually appreciate about the manga.
>>253047203what would you rate tengoku manga out of 10? 3? 4?