>supermodel tier looks>top student in his country>had a loving familyWhat was his problem? Why did he turn out so fucked up?
society
He used to think his life was a tragedyBut then he realised it was a comedy
autism of the brain
>>250255297Boredom
>fucked up?
>>250255297Some people are just born evil
Unironically autism.
>>250255297Lazy shallow wriiting>>250255522 in lazy shallow media
>>250255297His superiority complex turned into a god complex once he got the death note.
>>250255297The potato chip is the key to all of this
>>250255554autists are just retarded, not evil.
>>250255297>living on easy mode>gets too smug to be aliveAlso see most prominently in women.
>>250255580kek
Now you know if you had the notebook, you'd take out a few people regardless of your mental status.
>>250255297Was there any ounce of Light that wasn't a cold sociopath?
>>250255677Yeah, but that's very different than trying to create a new world order
>>250255297>altruisticLight cared so much about people that he gave up his own humanity so that good people could live in peace.
>>250255297He genuinely wanted to make the world a better in the first place, but then his god complex took over and he lost sight of his goal.
>>250255297High IQ makes you think things normal people don't. I'm not saying I'd be a perfect arbiter of law were I to get a deathnote but he always thought of himself as better than regular people
>wants to create a new world order>has to go through thousands of criminalsIf he were high iq like me, he'd realise that he could fix the world by just taking out 12 people. They include
>>250255677Speak for yourself, crazy.
My absolute favorite scene in the series was when Light was still emotionlessly plotting while his father was on his deathbed. I don't know how anyone can get to that part and not realize that Light is irredeemably evil.
>>250255297>Is literally better than everyone he meets at everything>Granted immeasurable power by chance>Instantly develops a God complexTruly a mystery
>>250256947You can't fix the world just by killing people. However, the Death Note lets you control people before they die. That's the key thing here. You could easily fix some shit just by controlling a few powerful people.
>>250255297If he really wanted to make the world a better place, he should have:>Made the death note's power known to the world while keeping his anonymity>Threatened those in the world with the most power to use that power to fix injustices/inequality>The rich and powerful, fearing for their lives, obey even if they some of their money>Eventually the world gets better
>>250255677I'd make the biggest international shitshow possible for giggles
>>250257237This sounds like what those Stranger Things guys Death Note would be like>It's le one percent's fault and capitalism that crime is so rampant
In the real world, Japan would get glassed by nukes from every country once Kira becomes a global figure.
I think the author wanted to make the point that power corrupts even the greatest or that having too much in life makes you crazy.
He was a psychopath since birth
>>250256947>They includeYes im listening
>>250255297>supermodel tier looksLmao, he's mediocre by anime standards.Anyways, it's the age old story of power corrupts. He set out on his retarded mission with a genuinely good intention which got increasingly more perverted as he got more and more drunk on his power.Fucking brainlets.
ITT: criminal scum
>>250257117>You can't fix the world just by killing peoplewatch me, I'll show you
>>250255297He thought he was above everyone, and everything in his life seemed to justify his worldview. Sadly, felt relatable when I was in high school
>>250255297You literally said it yourself. He had everything and was good at everything, so not only was he bored but he naturally looked down on everyone else and had dominant/psychopathic personality due to that
>>250255737That is because you're a bitch.You'd probably just kill some rando, or a rich politician get spooked and paranoid and never use it again unless it was to kill off your landlord or some shit.You have no goals, no dreams, no inspiration.Light used it for the betterment of the WORLD, you'd use it because some girl didn't want to have sex with you so you want to revenge kill her, incel.
>>250255689He had a moment of shock when he realized that he killed his own father, but then it went away.
>>250256182>>250255843>>250255575Cicero would be a Kira supporter.Cicero>I prefer the most unfair peace to the most righteous war>impunity is the greatest encouragement of crime
>>250255297Where’s death note 2? I wanna see some asshole or that zoomer kid kill some people
>>250259132Nice projection.
>>250255522>>250255575>>250255689>>250258030>muh yagami was a psychopathWrong and its wrong from multiple angles>Through use of the Death Note, Light quickly begins to develop a cold and ruthless nature. As a utilitarian, he will take any means in order to achieve his goals. However, though his actions do put his family in harm’s way, he continues to show love and genuine concern for them. >Additionally, the series shows that Light was not born remorseless. After relinquishing the notebook and losing his memories to temporarily avoid suspicion, Light demonstrates compassion, a reluctance to manipulate others and an intense unwillingness to kill. https://deathnote.fandom.com/wiki/Light_Yagami#Character Yagami is not a psychopath OR sociopath at heart
>>250260144it's literally the same schizo projecting his rape fetish into romcom pairings. hilarious guy.
>>250255557>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO EVERY VILLAIN NEEDS TO HAVE A CONTRIVED BACKSTORY ABOUT HIS WIFE AND KID DYING NOOOOOOOOOOOShut the fuck up, christ
>>250260203>well yeah he killed millions but actually he hesitated a couple times so he's actually a nice guy!killing random criminals already in jail is retarded whatever your political inclination is. so if he consider himself a utilitarian he's either a psychopath or braindead, he's supposed to be an academic genious so i'll go with the first
>>250255677Yes but only to keep clean out any of the Political Fossils who hold onto power for way too long.You over 60 and still holding onto Political power? Sorry bitch.
>>250260766What? It is lazy shallow writing. He is bad because he is bad because power gone to head.I never suggested it should be anything other than what it is. It's a somewhat dumb shonen show and that is a-okay. Not everything has to be realistically written. Cheap entertainment is good, don't be a fucking snob.
>>250260881No. He had a method. First offing the worst and second making the presence of a force that punishes evil. He scolded Mikami for offing criminals who were already convicted. See pic related.ALSO>Ohba (the author) said that Light was "a young man who could understand the pain of others" when he first encountered the Death Note. Ohba said that if Ryuk never developed an interest in the human world, Light would have become "one of the greatest police leaders in the world" who, with L, worked against criminals
>>250260957thinking that le criminals are the root of the world's ills is beyond retardedlet's not try to pretend death note is deep or smart. It's a dumb shonenshit show. Nothing bad about that.
>>250255297It's not realistic at all. If he had failed in one of those, it'd make more sense.
>>250261011Did you read the scan I posted or not?Kira blatantly said Mikami was wrong for killing convicted criminals. Also youre ignoring what the author said about Kiras personality
>>250261217what reduces criminality is higher standards of living not fear of sky daddy.
>>250261415>Fear of sky daddyKira did not intentionally rule by fear. This has been said multiple times throughout the series 1/2
>>250261415>>250261472And this is the real statement in the series. The time skipMore people love Kira than are afraid of him2/2
>>250255297His father placed his work over his family (but still had time to express favoritism for his daughter) and he was burdened by absurd expectations of absolute perfectionism. In other words, usual Asian parenting.>damn kid, you're pretty fucked up>what're you talking about, I do good in school
>>250257339Money is power, forcing people with power to do the right thing through fear of death is much more effective than targeting something as nebulous and self destructive as criminals.
>>250255297Because he was a top tier human and he knew it. This led to an oversized ego and acquiring the Death Note made him think he was truly special and he legitimately thought he was a god.Had he not found the notebook, he would have been a really good dude, as evidenced by the arc where he lost his memory
>>250261472if he's not scaring criminals what is he even trying to do?>make his view gradually penetrate and change societywhat view? that committing crimes is bad? is there someone that disagree?it's all superficial and pointless, criminality is not a big problem in developed countries. and people don't steal and kill for no reason
>>250261842>is there someone that disagree?Yes, criminals and people who defend criminals. There are plenty of them.
>>250261842>it's all superficial and pointlessWrong. Even after his early death the history books still wrote him as a good person because he stopped ALL wars and most crime Kira was being taught in schools as a good person way after his death. See pic related
>>250258404They got to him before he could finish his sentence. But I know the truth too, listen to me, these people are
>>250261901Not that anon, but this doesn't say anything about him being seen as good. He got talked about in ethics class, he was probably used as an example for utilitarianism.
>>250261868they generally don't.>>250261901>the author clearly shows it worked so it's a smart solution and makes senselol?
>>250261901>>250261868>>250261842WW2 killed over 200 million people. Cicero said >I prefer the most unfair peace to the most righteous war>impunity is the greatest encouragement of crimeDebate Cicero if you hate Kira
He lacked good pussy
>>250255297He was a teenager, half of the retards in this site spout uninformed, half-baked ideas about how they would improve society. I bet if I go on/pol/ right now I would find people who unironically think that Kira does in the show is the way to go, and it's the same shit everywhere. All teenagers are retarded.
>>250255677Nope, my object is an institution, not a person.
>>250255297He had a huge ego and a god complex, and he knew he was a superior human and had the ambition and will to use the Death Note as he did.
>>250262066I haven't read Cicero, but what you posted sounds a lot like it would lead appeasement.
>>250262017>This BELONGED TO KIRA?Shows shock and awe. >This belonged to Kira? The guy who stopped all war and crime?!?!?Thats definitely an indication of someone who is grateful for owning something of a great person
>>250255522This. You see this in real life sometimes, some fucked up serial killer comes from a wealthy loving background where everyone cares about him and had a friends and a relatively normal life and somehow they themselves are a sociopath. Some people are just inexplicably fucked up.
>>250262154Yes, the main character seems to revere him, but that doesn't tell you anything about how he is being viewed by the general public at this point or how his deeds are being framed in education.Especially when it comes to ethics class, they don't tell you "hey this is the right thing to do" in those classes, they present and discuss different schools of ethics.
>>250255297Power corrupts. Everyone always acts like they wouldn't act in a similar fashion until the power to do so is right in front of them. Hell, even Light himself believes that. This was even a plot point in the show where Light gave up his memories of the Death Note because he knew the Light before the Death Note came in his life was a genuinely upstanding guy. Humans are just flawed like that.
>>250255522If they are born fucked up they can't be evil, can they? Can't blame an alligator for biting after all.
>>250262066if a criminal has his face and name on television then he's either already punished or about to be.the first quote sounds like some pacifist faggot
>>250255297Midwit syndrome.
>>250262087Yagami had a son pic related>>250262182Dude why are you ignoring the facts for your own interpretation of the series?>Through use of the Death Note, Light quickly begins to develop a cold and ruthless nature. As a utilitarian, he will take any means in order to achieve his goals. However, though his actions do put his family in harm’s way, he continues to show love and genuine concern for them. >Additionally, the series shows that Light was not born remorseless. After relinquishing the notebook and losing his memories to temporarily avoid suspicion, Light demonstrates compassion, a reluctance to manipulate others and an intense unwillingness to kill. >Ohba said that Light was "a young man who could understand the pain of others" when he first encountered the Death Note. Ohba said that if Ryuk never developed an interest in the human world, Light would have become "one of the greatest police leaders in the world" who, with L, worked against criminalsbasically if Light wasnt Kira he would be one of the worlds best police officers, he even predicted thispic related shows that Yagami himself knows that without the Death Note he would be one of the top police officers in the world
>>250262515Yagamis son pic related my fault
>>250258437>Lmao, he's mediocre by anime standards.He obviously means in-universe retard. He was good looking enough that he always had bitches and had a popular idol obsessed with him (yes his looks were important for why misa liked him)
>>250262606ThisHe had multiple women, EVEN a female goddess. (REM) who loved himRem had feelings for Light
This world is a shitffest because narcissistic people like him controlling positions of power.
>>250262763According to Ohba "Yagami is a person who could understand the pain of others" Even when he got the death note
>>250255297He wanted to become Seto Kaiba but failed.
>>250255297Ted Bundy, Patrick Bateman, etc.
It's really one of the shittiest, most overrated manga/anime and there's no point in trying to make sense of it. Great premise and some characters that goes downhill from there. The worst character is Light himself.
>>250263200Ted Bundy was a bastard, who his mom gave up to be raised by his weird grandparents and thought they were his real parents. Not only was his Ted fucked up, but his granddad was always abusing animals and shit too.
>>250263200>comparing Yagami to animal abusers and cannibalswew lad
>>250262182>some fucked up serial killer comes from a wealthy loving background where everyone cares about him and had a friends and a relatively normal lifeWell that's the thing right? A lot of these killers have a belief that they're special and inherently above other people which leads to them treating other human beings as they would a bug. Sometimes having a loving upbringing can reinforce that because it might teach them that they don't even have to try to be happy, it's just something they have and others don't.
>>250255297bumpo
>>250262287Go to bed Kotomine
>>250259132Nice projection, but my dreams don't require me to go on a killing spree
>>250255297The theme is power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Anyone with that kind of godly power will inevitably collapse in on themselves, Light himself instantly.>>250263891>A lot of these killers have a belief that they're special and inherently above other people which leads to them treating other human beings as they would a bugLiterally Light in the first episode when he thought he was the ONLY ONE who can do "True Justice" or some shit.
>>250260881>geniouspottery
I just read the 90 page "A-Kira" oneshot. Fascinating stuff.
>>250255297It was because of all of that. Imagine going your life while mogging just about everyone, you're obviously going to end up develop a superiority complex and which later got challenged by L
>>250262693That's fucking retarded. Why the hell the Shinigami develop feelings for the guy that was using the woman that she had feelings for
>>250255297He was a very moral person, who killed someone. To cope with being a murderer, he turned into a crazy guy with a God complex. And from there, narcissism kicked in.
>>250262515>>250262569>Yagami had a sonIn a non-canon film.
>>250255677Total jew death
>>250268231You say that like he wasn't a narcissist from the start. He was already "bored of the world" during the first episode.
>>250267710Care to elaborate? Never read it
>>250255677just nobody anon to use the notebook is to invite the shinigami writing your name in his notebook, an omen of death is the shinigami, you lose errytime thats the message of death notebtw the russian dub kicks ass http://anime-bump.com/online/0017.htmlbecause russian and japanese share mouth movements, it actually makes sense to the ear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLncVVzZIhw
also kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOaOBHia_PA
There any rips of the show with high bit rate audio or flac (dub) that aren't over 10gb? I see lots of rips that are huge but still have shit audio
I'd prefer to have a friend note.
I'd kill everyone in this thread if I had a death note.you're all subhuman niggers.
>>250269410kek. Love this scene.>That epic ending ringtone.>That smug L smile.>Light's expression after realizing he's been mogged.
He fucked up by taking the Lind Taylor bait but ultimately he only lost because of some other guy fucking up rather than any fault of his own.
>>250269481Cute.
>>250269481Same, but mine should also make me the most important person of their life for whom they'd be willing to do mostly anything.
>>250255297Wanting to remove scum from the earth isn't fucked up. He reduced global crime by 70%, he was a good person who helped the world.
>>250255346underrated
He lives in Japan. His dad is also a cop, and it's clear he's being groomed for success, at least to live up to his father's high achievements.When you factor all that in, he's pretty much gone his whole life believing the only valuable life is one of serving society and being seen as 'accomplished' by society's standards. He harbours resentment to anyone who might be 'getting away with' doing less than he himself has always had to do to make society and his parents proud.As to why he enjoys killing, it comes with such a mind-set. It's a way of feeling in control. The justice system working to catch him was no better as they also sentence criminals to death. He started there. Killing innocents who opposed his view was just an escalation from that groundwork.
>>250257247Genuine chaotic evil, the true shitposter way. >>250257347You burgers are the true psychopaths.
Is /a/ just full of speedreaders or speedwatchers? I've seen multiple threads about Death Note getting tons of shit wrong. Like how do you get to the end of Death Note and think this shit? How do you all miss the point that things could've EASILY been different for Light had he not picked up the Death Note that day. Does nobody remember the time he relinquished ownership of the DN and all it's associated memories and genuinely wanted to help L find Kira. Does nobody remember how helpful and kind this Light was? I swear all you mother fuckers see is black and white.>>250255297>Why did he turn out so fucked upTL;DR The Death Note. It fucked him upSlightly longer answer, It is a combination of him being slightly depressed, jaded about the world ("this world is rotten"), and bored highschooler that also receives a mass murdering notebook.Also https://youtu.be/xFx8Aiu5Sdkhttps://youtu.be/YP1THb8a7p8Fucking KINO
>>250269290Several years later Ryuk has more apple cravings and comes to the human world to give a deathnote book to someone so he can stay a while. The person he picks, a young boy, uses it in a most interesting way. He tries to sell it.Weapons of mass destruction get traded across the globe every day, so how is the powers of Kira any different? Only the act of using it makes you criminal and a murderer. So it presents an interesting scenario and story.You can download it here if you make an account or buy it from Vishttps://manga.madokami.al/Manga/D/DE/DEAT/Death%20Note/%21%28Digital%29/%21Death%20Note%20Short%20Storieshttps://www.viz.com/read/manga/death-note-short-stories/product/7069
>>250270279Arigatou
>>250260955You are genuinely retarded if you think so.
>>250269088Oh right. Well I guess that personality trait did become his downfall. He was not a good person. All the killing he did, was superficially for justice, but really it was all to stroke his ego. His hubris/ego/narcissism were the reasons why he both fell for L's tricks, and decided to play along. A true man of justice, would have ignored L 100%, and just kept acting like a force of nature.
there is not enough pages in a book for me to complete what I would start
It's been a long time since I watched it, but did Light's "bored of the world" feelings go away when he lost his death note memories?
>>250255297He was kind of stupid, privileged, and bought into his own hype. The first part of death note is him bumbling through things through sheer luck and the second part is him going full scarface the second he gets even a little bit of power.
>>250270279Oh I heard of this, isnt this the one where the shinigami king just flat-out kills the guy for being too smug after he finds some loopholes in the rules
>>250270570Yes because he basically got what he wanted in life from working with L.
>Write names for quiet deaths which subtly reshape the world as you want over months/years>Big, dramatic deaths pointing to a sole cause to force the world into your desires as they fear the bringer of death.Which approach would you take?
>>250261901>literally the next page
>>250270259>Does nobody remember the time he relinquished ownership of the DN and all it's associated memories and genuinely wanted to help L find KiraYeah this thread feels weird to read because people are acting like that entire arc never happened
>>250270787I've never seen that one. Can you elaborate?Was this a novel or manga?
>>250255297>fucked up
>>250255297>What was his problem?Kodoku.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAFkWDLZ6YM
>>250255297Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Light was actually depicted as a relatively normal model student with good personality that wants to change the world for the better, but the power of death note got to his head
>>250271626>says shit like, "this world is rotten.">good personalityHe's a piece of shit that came out of his mom's vagina instead of her anus.
>>250255297He literally was just bored. just like Ryuuk.
>>250270259i feel ya anon, though i felt a kinship to L more than Kira. I'd be the weird nigga trying to find out how this shit working and probably get myself killed in the process
>>250270787Techinically he just added a rule out of nowhere because he was mad that death note being sold. It is just that Akira's caution ended up costing him his only chance to survive the new rule. But yeah, the king pretty much just killed him.>>250271229Manga
>>250272251>>250270259Lights not inherently evil, just bored and was at the wrong/right place at the wrong/right time. he feels strange feelings like its a crappy "chain letter" but he does it anyways just to test it out. Light is the curious cat in all of us, in all humans, likened to a lust for power, the death note is really a perfect metaphor for power, justice all rolled into one akin the one ring in Tolkien. its madness to have that much power. power ultimately corrupts etc.
>>250268022>man uses the woman who has feelings for him>Rem is also a woman and sees thisHere's your answer
>>250270787This is what happens when you listen to trolls describe a manga instead of reading it yourself.
>>250255297twisted fucking psychopath.
>>250262066>the most unfair peaceDefine peace. When soldiers invade a country and slaughter the locals unopposed (i.e. no war), is it peace?
>>250270787>>250272279i read it google death note chapter 110 its actually a decent read
>>250260203>m-muh fan wiki headcanonCope
>supermodel tier looks"I am better looking than everyone else">top student in his country"I am better than everyone else">had a loving familyA family that fueled his narcissism (mother and sister) and a father that didn't involve himself with his life.Then he is given a tool that directly controls whether people live or die.
>>250262287I run a farm. One time I had a female duck who just decided one day to brutally murder all of her 8 children, she literally tore them all to shreds, the entire area was covered in red. The other ducks saw that happening through the fence, I could no longer place her back with them because they would both isolate her from the group and beat her up. I couldn't be bothered to put her down just yet, so I put her with the chickens. Things went well for about a week, until one day I walk in there to find the chickens had fucking murdered her and eaten her eyes. I've probably gone through 2000 ducks in my life and I have never seen one so fucked in the head before, which says a lot because ducks are hardcore racists.
>>2502726352nd. OP just doesn't get it.
>>250255297From his high horse he could see the world for the cesspool that it is
>>250266922>no argumentfaggotry
Unironically if Light was a 4chan style nerd he would never be found out. Everyone would test the death note on someone famous. But he killed someone very local, pinpointing his location.He just lacked his inner chuunibyou to believe a magical item like this would work.
>>250274028The average 4chinz retard would dox himself within a week.
>>250255297The manga literally explains all of this.Why didn't you pay attention? Dumb fucking speedreader.Or are you an anime-only secondary?
>>250255297He could re-mould the entire world to his liking, killing dictators, terrorist groups, commies, agents of influence, Hollywood producers and yet he focused on a small-time task like neutralising known criminals - what the police and prisons already do. What an absolute beta and a drooling retard.
Power doesn't corrupt. Corruption gives you power.
>>250275144He did exactly that. The President literally submitted to him over phone and on air.
>>250270365He's right though, and Light's characterization is the weakest part of Death Note the parts that actually matter anyway.
>>250271646>lives in a rotten world>acknowledges the world is rotten>hurr, he is just evil!this world is fucked up, ignoring this and just acting like verything is rainbows and sunshine won't get rid of the evils of the world. Criminals will still be criminals, corrupt politicians will still be corrupt, bullies will still be bullies, abusive families will still be abusive.
>>250276545>discounts the tone and voice in how he expressed that statement.And this is why you're autistic.
>>250269294>to use the notebook is to invite the shinigami writing your name in his notebook, an omen of death is the shinigami,This always been a completely stupid and boring aspect of Death Note.The idea of humans outsmarting shinigami through their own ruleset is far more compelling.
>>250276676>nooo, don't actually listen to the words>it's his tone that makes him evil!fuck you, faggots like you made my school life a living hell. I get it, that's why you're so biased against Light, because you know you would be killed off by him in the first month for being a bullying asshole that contributes nothing to society.
>>250276884>Vomiting your past trauma for everyone here to see.You deserved to be bullied and much more.
>>250255297He wasn't, some people are just parasites and deserve death. He became fucked up after using the deathnote too much.>getting your hands on the death note and not using it
