Why did Yanderes fall out of popularity in anime?
zoom zooms don't care about Yanderes
>>250214730boom booms don't care for them either
>>250214491Because nothing I like gets any cool stuff
Would Yandere peg the person they love as a punishment for doing something they don’t like?
>>250214491It's the same copy pasted character every single time.>Fucked up chick with a woe is me backstory that kills everything that moves yet acts lovey dovey towards her loverZzzzzzz
>>250214491They were never popular in the first place.
>>250214491honestly they were never really in.
>>250214491They were a product of the 2000's when everything was edgy
>>250214491They got replaced with the teasing female lead and the bland quiet female lead as well
Because using an extremely gimmick template limits what you can do so much that writing a proper story while being unique is too hard for the average writers (unlike isekai) while the people who actually love yanderes aren't mainstream casuals who love eating any kind of shit that's put on their plates (unlike isekai).
>>250214491They're strawmen who are designed to be hated to begin with.
>>250214491Writing a yandere that is both consistent and interesting character is nearly impossible. Usually they have to be villians like mha. Yuno only works cause time control shenanigans.
>>250215948I wouldn't even press chargesI would let her visit me at the hospital unsupervised
>>250217758>getting illegally euthanized by your cute and loving japanese gf who snuck into the hospital dressed as a nurseaahhh...
>>250218131Canada needs to know about this to promote more MAIDs.
>>250218236>mfw euthanasia maid cafes start popping up
>>250217702*at the cemetery
>>250218528>Moe Moe... Shine!
>>250214491Because it was popularized and defined entirely by one series which also turned out to be complete shit.
>>250218647>Moe Moe... Shine!There's a much better webm of her actually dancing and shooting
>>250214810Are you fucking retarded?You could say the same shit about literally every dere.
>>250214810You mean like every single tsundere, kuudere, deredere and other fucking -deres?
>>250219067That would be a cooler death.
>>250219113You really can't. There are degrees in other dere's. Yanderes at this point are murderous or at the very least playfully murderous. There's really no room because you cant just kinda kill someone or kinda torture rivals unlike how you can be different levels of mean in Tsuns or different levels of cold in Kuus. The murdering aspect of Yandere also means they HAVE to be overly Dere because you cant be a love killer but mentally stable. Nobody would kill, hurt other people, or the one they love with only lukewarm feelings. It HAS to be an obsession to make sense. While Kuu and Tsunderes are made to eventually warm up to the object of their affection and can stop anywhere along the gradient with their respective emotion and love, a Yandere cant just one day stop being crazy for their lover.
>>250219526You have absolutely no fucking idea what you are talking about.I would post that shit subclass chart for yandere just to drive the point home about how i they don't even need them to be labeled correctly.
>>250214730Nah danganronpa has like 3 and thats popular with zoomies.
>>250219526Watch more anime.
>>250219868Not him but post chart please I wanna see.
>>250214491Because now we regularly see real crazy evil women and its not enjoyable.
Because more and more people started to watxh anime and the newcomers don‘t care about assimilating to the mindset of the average japanese viewer, who is a sexless incel, who needs his MC to always reject sex or play dumb. The new anime fans don‘t have patience for this anymore. Yandere fundamentally don‘t work, if the MC is confident and has sex with women. He‘d just ask her out and make her his girlfriend. Case closed.
>>250214491Unhinged women hit too close to home for a rapidly increasing number of men these days
>>250221952All I want is a cute zoomer e girl to hold my head in her lap and pet me (attachment optional) but I'm not chad so I'm invisible despite being pretty wealthy for my age bracket
>>250221952Women being unhinged IS their true nature.Wake up jack.
>>250219526There are yandere that don't completely follow the stereotypical route but should still count. Just because they're obsessive doesn't mean there isn't a variety with how that obsession can manifest.
>>250220725So you would qualify a real yandere as one who's murderously insane and obsessed.
>>250219868>>250219912>>250223307Post counter arguments because I legitimately don't see what you're getting at. In my mind, Yandere is so extreme theres no room for nuance.
>>250223924Well, if you take Subaru for instance, he usually hides it under a genki/tsun facade. He is very rarely directly murderous in the main story unless he is cornered, he's weak as shit, he has friends, banters, and even flirts with not the female leads.However, I'd say he still counts as a yandere on account of his obsessional personality and what he's willing to do.
Because you don’t stick your dick in crazy.
>>250226421There's one type of crazy I would stick my dick in.
Wait for the adaptation of Omoi-san
>>250226421But Rena is insanely cute
>>250214491Full on yanderes are too strong of a trope to be idly added to a story. You want to make a story that you can milk for hundreds of chapters of "will they, won't they?", the other deres will easily do that dance for as long as it takes, and you can do a bunch of other plotlines without worrying about them. A yandere, however, will either claim their beloved or they'll be killed/broken, no middle ground, no "will they, won't they", no distractions. You add a yandere to the story, you're writing around their presence and their obsession from that point on.
More women became mentally ill and as those women started dating dudes, everyone realized having a yandere gf would not be as cool as it is in anime
It turns out guys aren't turned on by someone trying to hurt them.
>>250229414>>250228214>>250226962crazy bitches but not yandere
>>250214491>no series about a yandere futa trying to hook up with a guy who dicks her into submission
>>250229593One day anon,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjlMmzDfE84they're not for me
>>250229125That's probably the reason, and why it peaked with yuno.
>>250214491Because there haven't been any yandere anime.
>>250221952>>250223002they're just unhinged, there's not a bit of dere in them
>>250225057Subaru is not a yandere wtf. If we’re being that loose with the definition then any character can be considered one.
>>250214491They are almost always shit. Especially Yuno or Midou
>>250229782Disregarding as much as possible including the anime cuts, no way anyone whobisnt blind could read Arc 6 and not realize he's absolutely a yandere.
>>250214491It was never popular in anime. It has always been more of a VN & audio drama thing. People like this guy >>250214730 are utterly retarded.
>>250214491They killed off all the guys they love. Now they got nothing to do.
>>250229782He's not full blown, but he's certainly a few steps down the yandere path. The man willingly throws himself into the grinder time and time again purely for the sake of a girl who gave him the time of day one time. Had he not initially encountered Reinhardt when he did, he would have fully embraced Yanderedom and burnt the entire kingdom to ashes just to get Emilia the throne.
Seeing her turn into a yandere from everything going wrong with her class and falling back on just gunning for MC was great. The smug loli who thought she was just a damsel in distress was even caught off guard and thought it was just simple manipulation from MC's side, not realizing how bold she would get.Don't know if she's going to turn into the stabby sort of yandere, with how the whole school setting works with expulsions basically being the closest to death for the characters, and considering MC already got indirectly stabbed by another girl. I doubt we'll see this in the anime, would be season 5 material if so.
>>250219526There are degrees in Yandere as well. It's not murderous, it's obsession
>>250229570>Rena isn't yandereEvery Higurashi girl is yandere
>>250216129I agree. There are many more different ways to handle yandere beyond just the cliche. Manami from Oreimo might be my favorite non-cliche yandere character. She's awful and evil and worst girl, but from a character and yandere perspective how it was handled was extremely interesting, especially with the unreliable narrator that has already long been fooled by her machinations
>>250230357If he doesn't know what a yandere really is, he probably can't read moon runes either.
>>250219526>a Yandere cant just one day stop being crazy for their lover.It works, in smut. Basically the love interest is a guy who became obsessed with the femc when she was nice to him when he was a kid, does everything to get together with her, fucks her hard, it's revealed he's actually nice, she fixes him.Just follow this simple plot structure and you can write all the yandere you want. You can make her a witch that made a deal with the devil for power, you can make her try to gaslight the mc into depending on her by being nice and motherly, a prostitute who who does so because she wants money to spend on her oshi while killing women who get close to him, and more.Female yandere right now are stuck in the "a crazy serial killer? hot" phase, but we can move past together.
>>250214491What? I love yanderes, they're great gap moe.
>>250230519This is a thread about yandere girls, right?
>>250223924more like, tsunderes are SO MID there's no fucking difference. It's like you're turning the settings from 0.1 to 0.15. They then say the thing about how they don't like the mc or anything with a slightly different vernaculum which you call... nuanced? Yanderes are all different! It's impossible to make their character alike and "just another stereotypical one" because the mold is extreme.
>>250214491Too perfect. They're always the fan favorite and other girls just can't compete.
>>250230547This is cute.
>>250229906I'd say he's full blown by now, if there were any doubts, it's gone by the time he's willing to lead the soldiers into getting mauled by a snake because Rem is more important.
>>250214491Hey guys! I'll fuckin end this : IT'S CUZ YANDERES ARE FUCKING CRINGE AND BELONG IN THE 2000'S WITH SHIT LIKE GLOMPING
>>250214491Anime needs more yanderes.
>>250231110stop being a faggot
>>250231110god i wish it was still the 2000s. i was unironically born in the wrong generation.
>>250214491Yandere Simulator and Yandere Dev single handedly killed it. The Japs looked at it and discussed between each other "alright lads, this genre is actually a bit cringe fr fr".
>>250214491Yandere's are out Aggressive but loving Gyaru's are in
Why do people think Rena is the archetypical Yandere? She's not even REALLY one except for in one of the 8 Higurashi VNs (granted, it's the second best one after the Shion one).
>>250231428you stop and I'll stop
>>250231854keep being a faggot
>>250214491>Why did Yanderes fall out of popularity in anime?Anon got his own Yandere girlfriend.Then she noticed he had other yandere pic on their computer and went on to remove the source.
I wish there was a yandere with fucking dragon ball powers like ki blasts and spirts bombs that would be so cool!>MC hides in building gasping for air>yandere blows fuck huge hole in wall>"YOU CAN'T HIDE FROM ME!"
>>250231885My faggotry was a temporary mistake. Sitting on 4chan isn’t going to fix yours, realfaggot
>>250232138Sitting on 4chan unironically fixed all my problems, rather, all the problems people were trying to put on me.
>>250214491Because tsunderes exist which are a better alternative.
>>250232138>temporary mistakewhatever you say, niggerfaggot
>>250232199Tsunderes that become yanderes.
A character with complete one-minded obsession basically means the series will now have to revolve entirely around that or the character isn't living up to the role. It's also usually not justified very well. Romance in manga is way too often "he was nice to me", but yandere's kill for some bangs-over-eyes for frequently absolutely zero justification beyond "he's the protagonist so duh".The protag is usually some wimpy dude who just goes along with things, the innocent childhood friends just get knocked off, the eviler other stalkers get taken out for not being trve lvve enough, everything just winds up revolving directly around this one element. If you've read one, you've read them all. Yandere is like a spice that crowds out everything else. It's too strong to just be thrown in directly.Also most of them seem to have just moved on to soft-dom mommy types, which is incrementally more pathetic.
>>250229414Speak for yourself faggot
>>250232185Anon. Unironically touch grass – I think. While it’s good that you’re solving things and progressing in life and while I think that most on adv/ are relatively benevolent, I don’t know if I would give this website without hesitation my stamp of approval as a “resource to finding solutions to one’s problems”. Most oldheads I talk to say that I should speak to someone I trust for input on solving a problem, and not strangers online ; well meaning they may be, they can’t know you personally through the barrier of the internet. >>250232201>t. Actual 4channel newfagHappy, pastyfaggot? Have fun jerking off to all 8 Yuno doujins of her fucking exclusively ANYTHING WITH A PULSE besides your white cracker ass.
>>250214491Mirai Nikki was not very good, but I appreciate Sakae Esuno for drawing a manga where the yandere is the main and winning heroine.
>>250229881yandere were definitely popular for a while
There was a short period around Mirai Nikki when yanderes were moderately popular.But there was very few material about yanderes to consume after Mirai Nikki so their popularity petered out as memory faded.
>>250232978Now they mostly live on as very low key yanderes in short hentai.
>>250214491I paid a girl once to send me her yuno cosplay nudes. Not proud of it but my weewee took control and clouded my judgement
>>250232041Yuno is the epitome, there is no longer a reason to make more.
>>250229414Yeah, that's why tsunderes are shit.
>>250229414Some of us prefer a girl who shows her love by inflicting pain
>>250214491Yandere is still good, but yanderes are like the horror genre, its really hard to stretch them out to more than a 100 chapters without being repetitive/predictable. tsunderes and kuuderes have space for development, they can become more open/honest. but yandere is just yandere. Yandere that lost its yan is not as interesting as tsunderes that lost its tsun.
>>250214491Didn't you get the memo anon? Yangires are all the rage these days.>>250234187I genuinely can't see her as a yandere fsr. She's too... innocent. Like she doesn't even realise that murdering people hurts them.
i will gladly fuck yanderes
any yandere anime recommedations?
>>250234258That's why you need to add yandere to other genres.
>>250234258heres an idea:Dont make a series if you dont have a story to tell you fucking hacks, nothing worse then shows made for the sake of making something
>>250214491We still get them in manga sometimes
>>250214491The yanderes were always really niche, and they still live on, though some of the most recent ones don't follow the mold 1:1. The two most recent ones I can remember, just from things I've watched or read1) Sensei from Boy's Abyss2) That one trap assassin from Jigokuraku
I think the eyes are the best part. Even better when you see a sudden unexpected flash of that darker side when there wasn't before.
>>250232351Honestly the concept of a yandere abusing and hurting a moe friendship thing cast and slowly having the show revolve more and more around her sounds great.Not just outright killing, that has been done enough, but slowly destroying the MCs friendgroup, bullying one girl out of scool, making another think she isnt wanted anymore, threatening and beating another and in general making everyone hate the MC.It should be set up in a way that everyone thinks the MC is doing it, while in reality he is trying to hold them together.Id like to see that
>>250231110I miss glomping, squeeing, etc. The world has lost its luster in this post-irony, post-truth age.
>>250219526>>250217041Pic related exists, so you're lying.
>>250214491They killed off all their fans
>>250232840Satou wasn't yandereNow, Shio...
>>250229125i too like my women to not play games
>>250231110I love it
>>250239977Ops wrong one >>250214491
>>250214491because anime's audience of fat otaku incels. Yanderes are hyper unrealistic and immersion breaking, because a greasy pedophile incel hikikomori would never have a girl fawning over them, so they can't self insert if there's a yandere. Tsunderes on the other hand are a little more believable. The otaku can at least rationalize that the tsundere is acting tsun because they're worried about lowering their social standing by going after the otaku incel's self insert, which makes sense because it would lower their social standing
>>250214491Some answers ITT miss the point and some touch on it well enough. Yandere trope died because it was flanderized into an "all or nothing" concept where tension lies in the horror aspect, which is incredibly hard to capture. It's just as hard to prolong a story on that concept. It doesn't help that the bulk of writers just think of yandere as an axe-crazy meme psychopath like Yuno. It doesn't have to be that, and is more often interesting when the yandere side is not all there is. Sensei from Boy's Abyss is yandere done right. She has selfish reasons that aren't intrinsically related to the MC, making her obsession logical. While her obsession is the focus, she isn't defined by it. There's other shit going on in her life and she's gained enough experience to tackle her problems in nuanced ways. On top of all that, there's clarity. She's delusional when it comes to love, but sane and efficient everywhere else. Ultimately writing yandere is hard and writers often don't have the skill or want to put in the effort.
Normies nowadays are too pussy to handle yandere. They only want bland girls that suck their dick without questioning anything
>>250219903Mikan (kinda) and... who else?
>>250240290>They only want bland girls that suck their dick without questioning anythingI thought that's why yanderes were shit on to begin with? Because they're considered too easy
>>250240183Yuno defined the genre you crayon eater, she isnt some extreme "meme" (screw you for using that normie word in this context), lesser yanderes are just watered down.You dont even understand the character type you are talking about.
>>250231110Jesus could you imagine something like glomping happening now? The world really does suck now.
>>250231110Wait hold the fuck up, how're yanderes anymore cringe than any of the other deres?
>>250240473They suck your dick but still put you under their control and won’t blindly follow you. If you have any relationship with another girl they’ll bite your dick off. That’s why in haremshit yandere is usually absent or the villain since otherwise they won’t let any harem members touch the MC
>>250241178I feel like making a character yandere or clingy is a pretty common way to character assassinate and disqualify them
>>250240653Not him but you are just making the category too constraining. I adore Yuno, but not all yanderes need to be Yuno. Making character archetypes into too much of a blueprint is how you get stale, bad writing. Honestly if you are reading a work and go "oh this is a tsundere, this is a kuudera, this is a yandere" and then you instantly know 100% of what those characters are about, then it's bad writing. You should write characters and plot points, not tropes.
>>250226421With yandere you really don't have a say in that matter.
>>250239977She's doing it wrong.
>>250241178You're thinking of yangiri, which is what Yuno actually is. She doesn't love the MC, she needs him as a psychological crutch. So there's no dere with the yan, just possessiveness and violence. Yangiri.
>>250240812*glomps you* :3
>>250214491Isn't this chick angry when someone has an intimate moment with her boyfriend but she herself doesn't have a problem with having sex with other guys besides him? What a double-standard whore.
>>250245570Don't think either of those ever happened in mirai nikki, you've probably got the wrong one.
>>250240653Point over headI wasn't disparaging Yuno. I said they literally follow the literal meme template instead of writing an actual character. Yuno clones are not Yuno and don't necessarily work for the reason she does.
What types of yandere are there really, not using the chart?Off the top of my head there's>delusional>desperate>gaslighting/manipulative
>>250231812It's the knife/cleaver imagery, also most people associate Rena with murder
Kuudere is better.
>>250243101Point is that Yuno sort of defined the archetype
>>250240388Isnt Genocider a yandere?
>>250214491People developed better tastes.
>>250243138>>250242726outclassed by her own aunt
>>250250418and he came back to fuck her later
>>250222060>tfw no eternal zoomer murder whore gffeels sad man
>>250249415just purely devoted, willing to kill or die for their partner
>>250249415Would stalker be a sub of delusional, manipulative, or it's own thing?
>>250250826also die and drag herself out of the literal pits of hell for their partner
>>250250418So fucking hot
>>250250418she's a keeper
>>250250418>doesn't show the part where his part has to lead him away by hand in his mindbroken state
>>250250418What a wise woman. source?
>>250230001It's classroom of elite probably. You should know this based on the art style. Yandere's were never really THAT popular. Mirai Nikki is the rare instance where a Yandere character takes center stage. Yanderes are almost always side characters and never the main character.
>>250245570>she herself doesn't have a problem with having sex with other guys besides him? What a double-standard whore.No, but she's happy to kill her boyfriend if things go wrong because he exists in other universes
>>250249415>find manipulative cripple x devoted/desperate one shot>It's gayHow come fujos get the good stuff?But, can munchausen stuff count as type of yandere?
>>250249415I always think them in terms of origin to MC which informs their character classification>Destiny Bond>Childhood sweetheart>FOMO>Kind words>Illness >Protective ActFrom there you can pair up their character and action more easily like>violently obsessed>delusional >lonely/dependent>praise seeking>smothering or isolating>dangerously carelessIt's a truly versatile trope imo
>>250222060>>250250765why are dakifags like this?
>>250214730Yeah this.Millennials love yanderes. Zoomers don't care
Does "homewrecker" count, sort of like isekai ntr?