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how in the blue fuck are they gonna adapt THIS fight in the anime?
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>>248123727
Whats the problem with it?
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>>248123816
it mainly takes advantage of kanji writing and the black/white coloring of the manga
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>>248123727
They won't.
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>>248123727
I'm just waiting for the black anime only's when Ichibei's "all black is under my control"
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>>248123727
Best girl
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>>248123727
The first cour has pretty much confirmed that only one fight will get exceptional treatment in every cour. Yhwach vs. Yamamoto was the best fight of the first cour. Which fight will get special treatment in the second cour? The Rukia one? The Renji one? Or pic-related?
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>>248124290
AND JUST LIKE A BLACK
YOU'LL BE CRUSHED
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>>248123727
Ichimonji will be a range ability that turns everything black and white
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>>248124331
if they keep the trend going from the first cour then it will definitely be ichibei vs. yhwach.

i can also see SP giving a modicum of care to rukia vs. as nodt too
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>>248124455
That's what I think as well. That being said, I hope the remaining fights don't look too bad. Rukia and Renji bankai releases pretty much happen back to back so I think one fight will get the short end of the stick.
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>>248124331
Huh? All the major confrontations (Yamamoto vs "Yhwach", Ichigo vs Yhwach and Kenpachi vs Unohana) got proper treatment, in fact I'd argue that Yamamoto vs "Yhwach" was the worst because of somewhat janky directing, some weird shots of Yhwach and the CGI skeletons.
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>>248124626
i love mask but i already resigned myself to the idea that his fight would look the worst out of the two.

unless we get an episode director who is really into wrestling, jej
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>>248124673
>I'd argue that Yamamoto vs "Yhwach" was the worst
Contrarian. It was the best fight of the first cour and it's not even close.

>>248124796
Same. But the anime-only fight might end up getting the favoritism now that I'm really thinking about it. Really hope it goes to Shinji or Ukitake.
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>>248123885
>activate bankai shikai hentai power
>anime episode loses all color and turns into a black and white episode
there
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>>248124933
>m-muh contrarianism
Braindead NPC buzzword. I made my arguments. Make yours or shut your dumbass mouth.
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>>248125096
that is exaclty what i wish for, brother.

especially if they make use of that wide-stroke style of brushing that kubo uses too
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>>248124626
Just a reminder:

Renji soulfully fucked Rukia's tiny soul body and soulfully came inside it.
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>>248124933
>Same. But the anime-only fight might end up getting the favoritism now that I'm really thinking about it. Really hope it goes to Shinji or Ukitake.
i thought it was pretty much confirmed that the anime-only fight in the second cour was ishida vs. ichigo
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>>248125207
Ichibei's kinda retarded here. You don't need a name to kill anything with. Only that having a name makes what you are using stronger in terms of its power it exerts.

For example: A deer was killed with ____.

What's ____?

Does it matter that its ____? The deer's still dead.
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>>248126877
>Ichibei's kinda retarded here

Nigga you're the one who's retarded, stop speedreading
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>>248124796
Did we ever have a Luchador Arrancar? I can't remember. If that wasn't the case then it's pretty weird that Kubo didn't introduce a Luchador character in the Spanish arc.
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>>248127158
Wrong. Ywach basically proves that his naming hax powers are pointless if raw power can just hard counter it. For example, Ichibei's naming hax powers would be ineffective against the Hogyoku. It will just lolno the attempt even while being renamed to something lesser or being robbed of its name; because what it is named has absolutely zero relation to what it is capable of.
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>>248127251
Just another reason why mask is trash
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>>248127357
The Almighty can counter it because its The Almighty. Anything else though? Probably not.
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>>248127455
I literally wrote it out for you that the Hogyoku can hard counter it too. It is an extra-dimensional object that bypasses all known laws and mechanics of how anything in Bleach works and goes straight to the source for manifestation. Ichibei's powers are abstracted above the source. Ichibei's powers are like Python and the Hogyoku is C. One is superior to the other no matter how capable the other may be.
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>>248127665
I'm not going to argue your headcanon
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>>248125312
Shinji has a line in one of the trailers that comes from one of the CFYOW novels apparently. Some fans think he might use his bankai against a Quincy.
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>>248127665
>>248127455
>>248127357
>niggers actually trying to argue about how 2 extremely vaguely defined reality warping powers in a fictional comic book would work and interact like there's any consistency or logic to either of them

The fight goes however Kubo feels like making it go.
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>>248127861
Now you're just ruining the fun.

>>248127790
I accept your loss.
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>>248127902
Schizo detected
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>>248126877
>You don't need a name to kill anything with.
you literally do
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>>248126877
>Ichibei's kinda retarded here

You need to read slower sonidoreader, Ichibei went out of his way to fuck with the sword and medallion because Yamamoto bankai was stored inside that medallion, and Yhwach needs the sword to execute some of his big dick quincy techniques.

Now because of Ichibei splashing ink all over the sword and the medallion, they lost their names, that means Yhawch can no longer use the sword as the catalyst of his quincies techniques, and he just lost Yama bankai as well. Yeah Yhwach can still cut Ichibei with the sword, but the monk can regenerate just by having someone calling his name, to kill this fucker you would need Yama bankai to vaporize him completely, and Yhwach cant use the medallion anymore.

In any other fight, for any other quincy, this would have been game over, Ichibei would playfully stomp that person to pieces, Yhwach just happens to be one of the few outliers that can completely negate his gimmick.

The only guys I think that can genuinely ignore Ichibei hax are Yhwach, Aizen, and maybe Mimihagi, Gerard and Pernida, since they are pieces of the soul king and can asspull shit any time they want as well.
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>>248123727
A lot of CGI.
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did kubo ever elaborate on wtf ichigo's new bankai was supposed to be in the interviews or light novels
im sure we'll see ichigo's actual bankai but that manga bankai reveal was so bullshit and retarded.
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>>248124796
Renji is one of Kubo’s favorite characters so he’ll probably make sure they’ll use a skilled animation director for his fight. There’s only 4 fights that needs sakuga anyway
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>>248123727
This is legit peak Bleach fight
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>>248124331
That's easy to guess. For the second cour it will be Kenpachi vs Gremmy, the third will be Ichibei vs Yhwach, and the last will be Yhwach's final fight.
>>248124673
Kenpachi vs Unohana was only decent, not quite up to par with the other two you mentioned. It doesn't live up to expectations for one of the most famous fights in this arc unless your standard is low.
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>>248124234
based bakugan brother present
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>>248124234
???
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>>248123727
Auras and cubes
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>>248135582
That's reserved for MHA.
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>>248135610
One Piece does it too
So why can't Bleach?
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>>248126877
it is a different context when you talk about killing a semi-deity figure like ichibei.

i am sure yhwach can still fuck people under him up with his nameless sword
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>>248123727
Pierrot can't into shading
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>>248123727
Is this fight even going to happen next cour? That would mean the next cour is adapting to at least chapter 611, and that's a bit more than even the first cour and even then it felt somewhat rushed. Also, wouldn't that leave just about 75 chapters for the last 26 episodes, which would mean significantly slower pace than the first 26 episodes? I just can't see it.
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>>248123727
With a slideshow, like every other fight in this show. Are we back to pretending this season had good animation?
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>>248137363
(You).
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>>248137440
Are they gonna give Matsumoto something worthwile to do too? I don't even remember what she did after jobbing to Asian Wolverine offscreen.
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>>248125096
Now I want b/w anime with sketchy style and good animation due to the lower workload.
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>>248136642
if the latest cour ended with yhwach meeting with one of his sons, it only made sense to me that the next one woud end with the former and his dad
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>>248123727
>how in the blue fuck are they gonna adapt THIS fight in the anime?
with CGI
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I'm kinda retarded, can someone explain to me what happened here?
How was Ichigo's kid able to do this? Why can he open portals to hell and destroy Yhwach powers just by touching it? Is he the SK reincarnated?
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>>248138899
It is a mystery
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>>248138899
He used orihime's rejection power enhanced by his shinigami+quincy+hollow powers.

Same as in Dune with Paul and his second son Leto II, the kid is the same as the father but much MUCH more powerful.
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>>248138899
Most minmaxed kid in all of Bleach All according to plan
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>>248139010
He can reject something just by touching it? Orihime needs to use her Rikka to be able to access her powers, her kid doesn't need anything to use his mother's rejection ability? WTF? That's beyond broken, that means if he touches you he can basically choose to reject your existence...
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>>248138899
I'm still not over the fact that the last chapter of a 686 chapters long series that have been going on for 15 years wasn't fully colored. SJ really did Kubo and Bleach wrong. So disrespectful.
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>>248139222
He can turn into a shinigami in his human body as well.

I tell you, he is probably the most broken character in there.
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>>248139017
>Aizen was trying to help Ichigo fuck the big-titted bimbo in his class the entire time
the true hero of the story
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>>248141498
He's an underrated hero in any ways:
>helps a disenfranchised kid from slums become a captain
>allies with a disabled person of colour that was mistreaded
>lifts up a race of mindless monsters and creates a functioning society
>gives his former captain more power and tries to put him out of his misery as Shinji cannot handle the power given to him
>Gives Isshin and Masakis first meeting
>kill central 46 to prune the corrupt tree
>attempts to kill Momo so that all her memories of Aizen would be good ones, spare hitsugaya from heartbreak that he'll never be her number one
>deposes one corrupt and indolent god king to bring hope and peace to Hueco Mundo
>teaches his Espada etiquette despite their rough personalities
>kidnaps orihime to protect her until her future husband comes to save her
>doesn't kill any of his enemies in the final battle
>allows rangiku to see Gin's loyalty to her
>spares Tosen the torture of knowing that Tokinada remained unpunished
>loses so that Ichigo can appreciate his powers more
>saves soul society in the war against Wandenreich
>fights Ywach himself
>doesnt escape when he had the chance
Aizen is truly the most misunderstood hero in all of manga and anime
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>>248138533
Why did they use the same balding model for every skeleton?
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>>248142259
“And that, your honor is why I believe a shortened sentence is appropriate for my situation”.
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>>248142395
hey that's above average hair for a skeleton
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>>248142259
What in the actual FUCK?
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>>248124455
>>248124331
Ichibei sucks
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>>248139877
Only three or four series have gotten that privilege. I don’t even think Kimetsu got it’s final chapter in color.
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How can you even call Bleach comeback something as basic and unprecise as "anime"? This is pure cinematography, there's absolutely no other anime with visuals, audio and overall look like this out there.
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>>248143657
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>>248143584
It's the objective truth anon, Aizen is a HERO compared to monsters like Ichibei and dogs like Byakuya and Shitsugaya
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Does this one get more screentime? Is she alive at this point?
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>>248143983
She’s dead just like the rest of the original Gotei 13. Unohana and Yamamoto were the only ones left and they got BTFO in the Quincy war. In order to see her, Kubo would need to dedicate to chapter to the original 13 or they’ll need to appear as enemies in the Hell arc.
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>>248143983
They're all in hell, which will make it a kino arc with old Gotei vs new Gotei
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>>248144101
>>248144117
Is there at least any info on her? Is she a relative to Rangiku or something?
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>>248139877
The chapter where Ichigo goes bankai for the first time was full color.
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>>248144197
We got their names, that’s all. And going by her last name, she isn’t related to Rangiku. None of the Original 13 are related to the cast we know.
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>>248144326
I think it's stupid. It's not like they can die of old age, and since Yhwach the soul society lived in relative peace and none of them are weak enough to get killed by random hollow or something.
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>>248132174
Kubo can't just charge inside a studio, grab the director by his throat and demand they make his favorites look good. He's not that influental.
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>>248144326
>None of the Original 13 are related to the cast we know.
There's a Shihoin among them
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>>248139222
Fullbrings don't pass from the parent to the child, so I really doubt he has Orihime rejection powers. He might develop his own fullbring one day, but he will not get Orihime fullbring.
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>>248144758
>It's not like they can die of old age
Shinigami grow old and can die of old age
>none of them are weak enough to get killed by random hollow or something
you never know, 1000 years is quite a lot of time for stuff to happen, some vasto lorde or gang of adjuchas could kill them, they could also rebel and die, get killed by Aizen/Nobles, die of disease like Byakuya father etc
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>>248144326
The opriginal 13 had Yamamoto and Unohana.

>>248144758
>>248145741
I think that they are either in the maggots nest like Mayuri (I want to know why he was there and since when) or directly in hell, like Ukitake (not Yamamoto because Yawach completely destroyed his soul).
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>>248123727
>>248123885
They could do something funky with animation cels.
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>>248145741
Okay then, they can die of old age. But none of them were older than Yamamoto in the first place and Sasakibe lived for a long time too. And if Aizen killed them then i am sure Kubo would implement that into the story.
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>>248145567
Chika Shihōin.
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>>248144850
Kubo is very involved in the new anime if you bothered to read the new interviews. He even talks about how busy he's been helping the staff on his fanclub.
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>>248142259
I find no fault in your reasoning anon, apart from the fact he tried to murder 100,000 civilians
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>>248147199
well the royal guard have murdered 100k each for their own oukens, why is Aizen crime worse?
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original gotei 13. what was the point of creating their designs? we already have the shinigami, the arrancar, the wizards, the fullbringers, and the remaining quincy. bleach is too bloated with characters and 85% weren't even given proper endings. we had to find out what happened to fucking urahara in a novel since kubo didn't bother to show him in the epilogue chapter. kubo just needs to stick to designing characters. he probably hasn't given us another HELL chapter because he has no idea what to really do.
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>>248147199
You forget that Orihime Inoue could just reverse it. A victimless crime in essence.
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well?
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>>248147910
Well, maybe she could if she had a source of reishi for it.
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>>248147965
She definitely could after all Aizen's benevolence knows no bounds
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Was rape monk a legitimate threat to yhwach or was he just playing around until he defeated him
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>>248148134
Without their faggy stealing bankai, a lot of people were threat to him.
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>>248147920
That's Yammy
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>>248148172
It's funny seeing Yhwach say that the real fight starts after Vollstanding and then the Quincies started jobbing like crazy.
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>>248130164
>Yhwach just happens to be one of the few outliers that can completely negate his gimmick
don't try to rationalize this manga lol
motherfucker has the "all mighty" power, doesn't even make any sense
and it's not supposed to, bleach is mostly a rough sketch
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>>248138899
>How was Ichigo's kid able to do this?
because kubo wanted him to
bleach has no world building, power is just a whim of the author
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>>248148328
I mean his powers make sense.
It's just that they're incredibly busted and borderline unbeatable.
>oh I saw your powers in action for a moment?
>ok you can't never kill me with them anymore lul good luck
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>>248148388
>bleach has no world building
Elaborate?
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>>248148172
Yamamoto was the real hard counter to Yawach, as Zanka no tachi trapped the souls of those killed by it, and as such, Yawach could not retrieve the fragments of his own soul (hence why he turned back into a baby after the war 1000 years ago) that he provided to power his army.

Yawach without the power up of recovering those past souls plus all the new ones (Misaki among them) would be no match for Ichibei.

Which is why he planned the attack the way he did and why he created the letters for royd and lloyd.

If for some reason he didn't manage to steal the bankai or Yamamoto noticed something was up sooner, Yawach would have been royally fucked, it was a huge bet on his part.
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>>248147801
Kubo likes designing characters, and who knows, maybe we can get an anime / ova of the original gotei and the first war? I think that would be cool.
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>>248126877
Ichibe's power is just tsukishima's power but with extra steps and less applications
so yeah, it's retarded
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>>248145604
Kubo disagrees with your take.
Kazui definitely inherited the best of both parents.
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>>248149025
Cherrypicking faggot. He was talking about physical design. If you read further down, he goes into detail about how Kazui has Orihime's face, but Ichigo's coloring.
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>>248149065
Kinda confusing then, that's why the reporter asked him that follow up question.
But still, I think Kubo can go that route when designing their powers, I mean Ichigo inherited the same attacks as his father, and the quincy abilities like Blut Vene from his mother, so there's definitely some genes related stuff there. Only time will tell I guess.
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>>248149388
Not confusing once you read his answer. Inner character obviously means personality. This is why the interviewer starts talking about how he has an easygoing aura like his mother. Then if you look further down, the opposite would have applied if they had a girl. She would have had Ichigo's personality with Orihime's burnt auburn coloring.
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>>248137565
I really disliked how she just has this epiphany getting thrown around in some hyperbolic sumo chamber.
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>>248149388
>>248149498

Mommy's boy, Daddy's girl
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>>248149587
Kazui is a daddy boy as well. He likes to play in Ichigo's old room, remember?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SQ3tv63vaA
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>>248145821
Yamamoto is also in hell anon
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>>248147720
I don't think Aizen's trick for making a fake Ouken is how it's 'naturally' made.
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>>248141498
T. Momo.
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>>248143657
ichibei is cute!
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>>248147920
>Strongest Espada
Wonderweiss.
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Remember The Wind?
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>>248147801
>original gotei 13. what was the point of creating their designs?
>kubo just needs to stick to designing characters
Make up your mind already faggot
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>>248145567
Which is weird. Why aren't other noble families represented in the Gotei?
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>>248148328
>>248148388
>says it doesn't make sense
>gives no argument as to why
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>>248150674
Why was it a 'fake method?
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>>248154296
Whoooooo?
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>>248154443
he needs to design characters for other things. not bleach. we don't need more characters.
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>>248154296
I remember days like this when my father took me to the forest and we ate wild blueberries. More than 20 years ago. I was just a boy of four or five. The leaves were so dark and green then. The grass smelled sweet with the spring wind. Almost 20 years of pitiless cumber! No rest, no sleep like other men. And yet the spring wind blows. Have you ever felt such a wind? For us, there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm.
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>>248155114
>we don't need more characters
Speak for yourself faggot
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>>248155236
Jugo...
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>>248154839
Kek.
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What did Kubo mean by this?
(This was his advice to upcoming Manga artists)
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>>248156990
Stay strong to your beliefs. Oda is the same.
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>>248124626
Obviously Rukia's fight is the one that is going to have the best animation, because she is very popular, it's the first time we see her bankai, and I bet they want to make it look very pretty, and I 'm sure Kubo asked them this too.

Mask is going to fight against Kensei and Rose firstly, and those are presenting 2 new bankais too. And with them the fight can be too long, and Renji won him quickly, so there isn't a reason to extend it.
I don't like Renji's new bankai, so the only thing I want is to see how really works, which is not clear in the manga, let's see if that way I can like it at least a little.
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>>248127251
as much as i love mask, he always felt completely out of place in a quincy army to me.

he looks like a rejected design from HM
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>>248132174
Renji will get Aizen-level sakuga.
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>>248160058
jej
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I'm on chapter 8, when does it gets good?
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>>248161602
it never gets good, anon. they lied to you
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>>248123727
They won't.
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>>248145907
cels haven't been used since like 2002
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>>248127665
>Ichibei's powers are like Python and the Hogyoku is C.
PYTHONBROS OH NO NO NO NO NO
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>>248123727
Why everyone hate rape Monk?
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>>248163497
i like him
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>>248127665
The Almighty is the power of the Soul King, the literal God of the Bleachverse. Ywhach said multiple times that anything he already knows of can not be used to harm him. He is immune because of the Almighty, not raw power. In fact, before he absorbed the Soul King and Mimihagi, he barely showed any overwhelming forces. Nobody trembled against him or feels hard to breathe like against Aizen. All of squad 0 casually tuggle with him, Ichibei even overpowered his Blut. The Almighty is would be the assembly code, written by the world creator

If you think Aizen can neg Ichibei hax, why then he can't negate the chair, or any of the seals? Aizen was sealed using a chair built in mere hours after his capture. Meanwhile, Ichibei stole 100 nights from the future and failed to seal Ywhach.
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>>248163868
New anon here, not going to try to understand the autism going on here.
I just want to point out that Aizen still getting stronger and eventually not even the chair will be able to seal him.
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Is there a reason why his zanpakuto makes him crossdress?
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>>248164363
Everyone get stronger over time anon. And Ywhach grows passively by waiting for anyone who touched him die. He would eventually become a composite Bleach containing every single Shinigami, Quincy and Hollows. Even Ichigo and his son will be in it.

But that's beside the point. Aizen is bound by the chair built by some no names in Division 12. Meanwhile, Ywhach can't even be sealed by Ichibei power hax and SS future 100 nights. You can't just say Aizen can ignore Ichibei sealing like Ywhach did
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>>248164790
His theme song is Rape Me by Nirvana

You figure it out
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>>248164790
>>248165462
>Hollow hole on his glans
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>>248147920
Nah
>Raw reiatsu
Yammy
>Fighting ability
Ulquiorra
>Most broken ability
Barragan

He was like a middle ground between the three, which sucks.
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>>248124933
I liked the Kenpachi fight the best, which means your opinion is wrong.
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>>248164990
>Aizen is bound by the chair built by some no names in Division 12.
was this actually said?
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>>248164990
It's dumb saying Aizen could defeat Ichibe by overpowering him. Aizen's greatest power was never his immense reatsu. It was that and everything else combined. He literally had a passive kido to protect his blind spot. Aizen lost when he was at the apex of his reatsu because he became too arrogant and starting relying on pure power alone.
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>>248139877
But its fully colored
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>>248166201
I thought Mayuri built it.
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>>248166201
>>248171157
Mayuri is the no name. He lost to a 17 years old quincy happa
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>>248123727
Pinpoint the good guy in this image.
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>>248150674
Aizen didn't invent the method tho, it's the only recorded method in SS history.
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>>248171474
?
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>>248163868
Aizen is not bound in the chair he's just choosing to remain seated because ichigo thunked him so go
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>>248163127
I love Harribel and her three girlfriends
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>Aizen's greatest power was never his immense reatsu.
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>>248177529
Power without THE PLAN meant nothing
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>>248177190
Who's the best Harribel's fraccione?
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>>248171239
And then carried the Soul Society on his back against Yhwach.
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>>248177529
It was his bankai actually.
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>>248175129
Ichibei looks like the villain here.
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All the Royal Guards are unlikable, insufferable faggots. Ichibei especially.
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>>248182348
Calm down Yhwach.
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>>248123727
Something like gintoki and jiraiya fight
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>>248165808
>Raw reiatsu
>Yammy
...
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>>248148459
One piece newfags ruined the meaning of worldbuilding, they don't even know what it mean.
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hell arc when
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>>248130164

good effort but you genuinely can't make late bleach abilities and power scaling make any kind of coherent sense
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Delusional Aizen. Kek
Shut the
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>>248186189
Aizen should've just stayed as the king of Hueco Mundo.
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>>248125096
that would be absolute KINO
Even better if they manage to make a effect that looks like black ink splashing on the screen
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>>248182348
Nimaya and Hikifune are great.
Shutara seems decent, yet reserved.
Kirinji is a hothead who has his moments.
It's only Ichibei who's scum, honestly and even he gets his funny moments
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>>248147801
>what was the point of creating their designs
To make the brief flashback more tangible than it would have been with just silhouettes. Anything else is overthinking it.
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>>248138899
The Heart.
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>>248131090
No, but it's true it should have some sort of ability. The bankai we saw the entire series was made up by his inner Yhwach, so it didn't have any real effect besides boosting up his raw power (that much was possible if Yhwach juiced him up on more reiatsu), but his real Zanpakuto should grant SOMETHING.
Then again some shikai are merely a weapon transformation to hit harder. Ichigo's shikai isn't that bad however, it grants him Getsuga (does it, actually? Isshin still uses it with a sealed sword I believe against Aizen so maybe it's just something the Shiba clan can learn)
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>>248189012
>Isshin still uses it with a sealed sword
plenty of captains uses some of their shikai ability without changing their sword, like I'm pretty sure Histugaya creates ice at without summoning the ice dragon
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>>248138899
No one knows, the ending was so fucking rushed and a lot of things were left unexplained.
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>>248123816
monk calls ywach a nigger.and then dies.
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>>248189012
>should have some sort of ability
Getsuga Tenshou.
>bankai we saw the entire series was made up by his inner Yhwach
It was more like OMZ was playing middle man. Whitegetsu was still a factor, hence the Byakuya fight intrusion.
>Isshin still uses it with a sealed sword
I'm pretty sure he's in shikai.
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>>248126877
No he's not. It's reality altering power, by using the name as a basis he erases that things existence and purpose so in future it loses all it's meaning and use. By using his bankai he can give it a new name, thus he can make the sharpest sword as weak as a butter knife.
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>>248139222
are you sure he rejected it? maybe he dispersed it so now that riaetsu is part of the surroundings? or maybe it was so weak that he simply destroyed it? or maybe he sent it to hell? or perhaps he just absorbed it?
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>>248179455
A plan with all the important knowledge ends up in a failure. How the fuck did he not know about something like final getsuga tenshou? even after seeing it he did not realize the nature of the power. His on hubris was his end.
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>>248190712
Isshin knows it but didn't actually use it. Either Isshin was the only user, or if it's a Shiba technique, it's been kept as a well hidden secret.
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>>248190844
Kubo has said in a QnA that Isshin's Getsuga is different from Ichigo, implying that it is indeed a zanpakto ability, just one that happened to appear twice slightly differently
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>>248190844
That's exactly the reason aizen should have know it. It's not something new, it has probably happened before so why the fuck has he not heard about a technique that makes you one with you zanpakutou and gives you a temporary godhood, if he did then he'd try his best to delay the fight and wait for it to be over.
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>>248139877
>wanting full-colored manga
Why do you want to ruin the genre?
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It's still only January.
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>>248191976
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i forget - why did the super powerful shinigami not take out aizen when aizen was ascending and going to take out the shinigami world and reach that king guy and take his soul or power or whatever the fuck? and he only got stopped because ichigo face palmed him.

it's been years and years since i read this shit so i don't remember names or anything.
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>>248193013
They are the guards of the king, so they only act once someone reaches the palace.
Also they're stupid and overconfident, the powers Aizen displayed vastly surpass them, he'd have slaughtered everyone and kept evolving if they managed to kill him once.
The monk could probably seal him with ink, but the others get rekt.
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Anyone wanna see the new Byakuya drawing from his club?
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>>248193725
You don't have to ask.
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>>248193751
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>>248193843
Looks gay so it's Byakuya indeed.
Thanks.
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>>248193843
Kubo totally had that drawing saved in case they allowed him to kill Byakuya off so he'd post it on Twitter at the end of the episode.
Since they didn't allow him to murder the cashcow, he waited until now.
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>>248194211
Wrong, you schizo. Byakuya was never going to die. He's shown in his royal palace clothing in one of the early trailers. Kubo even stated on his fanclub that he didn't post Byakuya artwork on his twitter because he's not dead, but he drew him on the klub. This was back in November.
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>>248194211
>Kubo totally had that drawing saved in case...BRAAAAAP...PFISSSSST...
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>>248193843
Looks like a woman
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>>248194909
Pretty on par for Kubo's style then.
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>>248124313
*Breast girl
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>>248189012
>The bankai we saw the entire series was made up by his inner Yhwach
That was his real Bankai (but incomplete because Ichigo didn't know the truth about his zanpakuto)
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>>248123727
Reminder that the Hogyoku is still in Aizen's body. Upon being defeated, Aizen realized that he needs more time to make it work. Thus he desired to reverse his transformations so he can be captured, be underestimated by everyone and be left alone with the Hogyoku for millennia. He deliberately taunted the court so they'd give him a heavier sentence, increasing the time he has alone with it. It's no coincidence that Aizen had gotten stronger since his imprisonment. It's all part of the plan.
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>>248194211
Meds
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>>248163497
Who hates him lol
His hax is an amazing idea
Although he is pretty evil though.
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>>248196758
>>248155236
>I remember days like this when Tsukishima took me to the forest and we ate wild blueberries. More than 20 years ago. I was just a boy of four or five. The leaves were so dark and green then. The grass smelled sweet with the spring wind. Almost 20 years of pitiless cumber! No rest, no sleep like other men. And yet the spring wind blows. Have you ever felt such a wind? For us, there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm.
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>>248144850
He's part of the production this time, not just an outsider advisor or whatever other authors usually do when they get involved and then cry the series is not faithful to their vision.
The interviews kept reminding people how much Kubo had to interact with staff, to the point he personally touched things up when asked.
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>>248123727
This fight is so lit
They need to make it look like ink is brushstroking across the screen, or maybe turn it all black and white.
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Any news on hell arc? COMING TOON TM?
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I originally watched Bleach, but before the anime came back I read the manga from beginning to end.
Only, I made sure to make a playlist and listen to Kubo's characyer themes whenever those specific characters did anything cool.
It really was a fun experience, and let me just say The Dope Show really suits Mayuri. Listening to Rape Me even made the Szayel fight enjoyable. Renji's theme is lit too. I do wish the Quincies had themes though.
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>>248196930
Yeah, in 10 years.
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>>248194632
>Kubo straight up just airs his editors because he trusts himself more
Lol based
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>>248196930
He should do what Ishida is doing with Choujin X.
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>>248191976
My final exams are in May so I don't mind the lack of distractions.
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>>248154296
He was cute. Hope he gets more screentime in the anime
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>>248186189
Hardest line he's ever said
Surpassing even the Kyoka Suigetsu one.
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>>248196953
reading Soi Fon's scenes to She-Wolf is a personal favourite
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>>248196930
2 more weeks
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>>248161602
It already did. You just haven't realized it yet
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>>248186189
>Shut the
Finish the sentence. I dare you.
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>>248196953
I put together a bunch of metal, black metal and numetal for the Quincies but it mightve been lost when my laptop had to get replaced.
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>>248196786
Why is he evil?
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>>248197589
He's bald
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Who wins in a battle of facial hair between Yhwach, Yamamoto and Ichibei?
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>>248198265
Yhwach's grows so fast over this story arc that it'd overwhelm everybody elses given enough time.
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>Never read/watched Bleach
>Watch S1 of the TYBW a couple weeks ago
>End up reading the entire Manga
>Just finished the last chapter a few moments ago
I always hate that somber feeling you get when finishing a big series like this.
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>>248199118
It's okay. With Bleach you still have the Hell chapter to connect yourself to the Hopium machine, and the TYBW anime adds and will change stuff so there's plenty to look forward each season.
The Bleach live action has an atrocious final 10 or so minutes but the movie is good, it deals with the Grand Fisher as the big bad and is low stakes for the most part.
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>>248199118
It's not over yet; there's the Hell chapter to come whenever Kubo feels like it.
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>>248137565
I really liked how she just has this epiphany getting thrown around in some hyperbolic sumo chamber.
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>>248193843
It's always a bit hard to recognize Byakuya without his hair stuff.
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Kubo has some amazing taste in music, I'm listening to the character songs and I like nearly all of them. Even the ones that aren't my style I can recognize are supposed to be good.

Snake Tongued Beast for Gin I'm not sure how the fuck he even found such a song, not only does it sound incredible but the lyrics are about lying until your death if necessary to get your objective or something and the vibe completely fits Gin as a tragic vigilante, I could see it playing for 2 minutes in a live action movie as Gin walks through the rain and we see a montage or him killing people for Aizen while waiting for his chance.
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>>248198723
Imagine how big his stache would have gotten if he won.
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>>248201970
He's trying to surpass Yamamoto
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I WILL PROTECT THIS BLEACH THREAD


GETSUGAAAA

TENSHOUUUU
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>>248190349
Except he can't touch concepts that are beyond the basis of its power. He can't rename death into something else, just like how he can't rename life to be something else. Same way he can't rename Shinigami, Hollow, Quincy, or something else. Certain named concepts are sacred and even his bullshit naming powers aren't effective.

Ywach for example notes that it would be too time consuming to kill Aizen which has fused with the Hogyoku, but in saying so, implies that he can't do jackshit against the Hogyoku. Ywach with the Almighty couldn't hard counter Aizen because of the Hogyoku. The Almighty is a power that supersedes Ichibei's naming powers, as it is a power of the Soul King itself--and Ichibe's ability to name anything is a power granted to him BY the Soul King. This in turn also means that any future Soul King can negate Ichibei's ability to name things or change the nature of his power on whim that his ability to name something is not nearly as effective. It's all subjective as fuck.

Finally, there's the case with Zangetsu itself. White introduced himself to Ichigo as being nameless. Later, he clarified that depending on which basis of power Ichigo calls upon, who dominates the concept of "Zangetsu" in terms of the form, changes. Ichigo with "The Blade is Me 2" makes a conceptual declaration that all parts of his powers are BOTH "Zangetsu" to HIM, because its something he's come to believe in. But as the Ulquiorra fight on top of Las Noches presents, the THING that comes out, isn't Zangetsu. It's a nameless beast that wears Ichigo's skin and throws around Ichigo's power.

That in turn solidifies that instinct overrules name. Which means that Ichibei can rename anything he wants as much as he wants, but if the instinct remembers how to do something, he can't rename THAT, and thus the basis of the power is meaningless.

Which is the whole basis of ___. Whether something is named or is ___ doesn't matter if the end result is the same.
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>>248202052
Man Shunsui has a lot of catch up to do for facial hair as the new Gotei captain.
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>Kubo knows a song called Los Lobos
>A Japanese rock band playing Spanishesque guitar and random Spanish words
JESUS CHRIST, IT'S LIKE THEY WERE INSPIRED BY BLEACH BEFORE KUBO EVEN CREATED HUECO MUNDO


I'm starting to prefer the songs Kubo assigned to the characters over the anime OST
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>>248200928
Does anyone have the full characters songs list?
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>>248205227
I do! Handy I didn't clear my chrome history, here's the pastebin some anon made 3 weeks ago.

https://pastebin.com/xTU95iBp

If you lost it, you can always search for character theme songs by tite Kubo on reddit. But here's all of them.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-qIndk7g7MQ
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>>248205371
Thanks bro.
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>>248161602
Unironically I enjoyed it right from chapter 1
It takes me actively disliking something to get me to drop it once I start a story.
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>>248205329
>>248205353
>>248205380
I hope we get a scene like this in the actual hell arc
My absolute dream Hell Arc scene is the two of them posed, Kazui sitting up on top of Ichigo's massive sword as he holds it out to the side, about to fight together.
As in "Ready, Kazui?" " Let's get 'em, dad."
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>>248161602
Speedrun into Soul Society, that's the Duelist Kingdom equivalent from Yugioh, where the story everyone is familiar with actually kicks in .
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>>248141498
When were you under the impression that he wasn't the hero?
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>>248205380
Where is the ntr
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>>248207444
In the roots of your twisted mind
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Anyone got a webm of Ichigo and the Old Man underwater with them being reflected in the glass from ep 13?
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CHADetsu HANDSOMEaiya
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>>248186189
Honestly Yahwachs smiles got me smiling
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>>248209859
He's just so damn happy to be here.
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>>248196930
About 20 minutes.
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>>248161602
7 chapters ago.
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>>248196930
Just gimme a minute.
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>>248136642
They said this was going further then the first cour, and also the final two will have more added content
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>>248125096
KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>248124331
Ichigo vs Yhwach was way better than Yhwach vs Yamamoto though
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>>248142259
Based keikaku
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>>248186189
They gotta give them a real fight in the anime. Shit would get Yamamoto/Yhwach levels of hype
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>>248193843
Effay as always
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>>248212509
Why did he spare Candice?
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>>248212747
Because I am fucking his sister.
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>>248212413
Everything in the last 10 chapters is getting a huge extension. There’s a lot of content Kubo needs to add and that’s the perfect time for it
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>>248212509
>effortlessly off-screens 3 upper-mid tier ritters
Where was all this strength when As Nodt was punking him?
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>>248212509
If he's a Captain brutalizing other Captain-class fighters without a scratch, wouldn't that put him in base Yamamoto / Yhwach tier...?
Kubo probably wouldn't accept that, but then the gap between Shinigami is just massive and the term "Captain class" is meaningless.

Yeah TYBW broke the scale, it's fine if you don't analyze it I guess. Byakuya did the equivalent of killing 3 Shunsuis at the same time with no effort.
Then you have Renji being transcendent compared to the Vizards and Mask. But Bazz-B is his match.
Within the term "Captain" there's a lot that would squash the lower ones like a bug, and someone above them will do the same to them.
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>>248213551
Read the damn manga.
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>>248213812
None of those 3 are Shunsui lvl, but yeah post rg Byakuya is pretty busted
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>>248198723
I remember reading this week to week, then at some point, probably when his stache was around the chapter 544 level on that pic, I was like "wait, was his facial hair always this huge? What the fuck?" And it just kept getting bigger and bigger.
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>>248214143
Uhh I did.
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>>248213551
As nodt stole his bankai.
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>>248124234
Based Wiseman poster
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>>248215913
He didnt use his bankai against those 3
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>>248216202
You don't know that.
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>>248216340
Perhaps my sequence of events is off, but did get it back yet, by that point? Also part of the post RG training was to correct the over reliance of Bankai by becoming more competent in Shikai. He demonstrated his improved mastery of Shikai against Ad Nodt the second time, and then again against Gerlad in the early portions of the fight
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>>248212509
>3 enemies defeated offscreen
Is this the point where Kubo started to rush the series?
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>>248182261
Ichibei IS the villain THO
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>>248216202
>>248216422
Holding a sword hilt is the usual indicator if Byakuya is using Shikai or Bankai and there was no sword in sight when he blocked Bazz B and Nanana from pursuing Ichigo so the assumption is those were the petals of his Bankai.
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>>248217295
True, but neither of his hands are visible in this pic. It'll probably be made more clear in the anime. This is one of the fights I expect to get fleshed out
>>248216905
Kubo off-screened a lot even when he isn't rushed. But yeah around here
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>>248217685
i see.
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>Jobberakuya had to use his bankai to take out three literally whos AND one of them surived
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>>248218387
two of them survived, actually.

robert and lame-tosen
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>>248218446
i thought candice was the only one who made it
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>>248218474
Candice didn't survive Byakuya, Ichigo already fucked her up real good, and Byakuya finished her off offscreen, Mayuri picked her body and turned her into one of his quincy servants.
Robert and NaNaNa somehow survived, Robert died afterward when Yhwach used Auswahlen to power up his elite guards, and NaNaNa was killed by Bazz-B and his corpse landed in front of Mayuri, so you already know, Mayuri collected his body and turned him into one of his quincy servants too.
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>>248218674
Candice is alive in the novels.
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>>248138899
which chapter is this?
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I miss Bleach.
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>>248219437
The very last chapter I believe
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>>248219518
Stay alive until July anon
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>>248123727
kill yourself bleachfaggot
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>>248203088
>Except he can't touch concepts that are beyond the basis of its power.
But his Shikai/Bankai powers can affect any physical object in the real world. That's why it's so hax and literally a transcendental power.
>Same way he can't rename Shinigami, Hollow, Quincy, or something else.
You misunderstand his powers, it's not the power to physically change something, it's the power to change the utility of a physical thing by erasing/creating names. This is why when he uses his Bankai to change his Yhwach's name to Kuroani, he said "Now you are LIKE a small black ant, a weak and fragile thing." Yhwach did not physically transform into a black ant, he was just made to be so ridiculous weak in that small moment just before activating the Almighty.
>It's all subjective as fuck.
It's not. The SK has godlike reiatsu in large quantities. In the Bleachverse, the more reiatsu you have, the more powerful you are and the more you're able to alter the physical world and reality around you. As son of the SK, Yhwach was blessed with the ability to absorb souls and reiatsu, hence why his powers are that of a god and why he was able to awaken the Almighty like his father. Yhwach is really a perfected, better form of the Hogyoku.
>... the THING that comes out, isn't Zangetsu.
You completely misunderstand (again) the whole dichotomy of White and OMZ. When White fought Byakuya and awakened for the 1st time, he said he was nameless because Ichigo did not recognize the hollow in him. Later on, White clarifies to Ichigo during Vizard arc that he is in fact Zangetsu and when he fought Ulquiorra, he awakened again due to Ichigo having a hole in his chest like a hollow and being near death, weakening his hold over White.
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>>248220152
Instinct wasn't the reason White fought Ulquiorra, it was simply Ichigo being near death and needing to be saved by his Shinigami/Hollow powers. White was always Zangetsu and was never at any point NOT Zangetsu
>Which means that Ichibei can rename anything he wants as much as he wants, but if the instinct remembers how to do something, he can't rename THAT, and thus the basis of the power is meaningless.
It has nothing to do with instinct, you either have enough reiatsu to counter Ichibei and negate his powers or you don't. And since Ichibei is the strongest shinigami in existence who is practically godlike, there are very few beings with the reiatsu to negate his Zanpakuto's renaming abilities.
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>>248123727
They should get Shida to do it
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>>248217685
byakuya's outfit is so fucking cool, i wish it was his default fit, at least the headwear
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>>248217685
5 jobbers and a goat
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Why didn't Ywhach just name R and P as "Retcon" and "Plot Hole"?
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>>248220516
Hell arc Byakuya. U rike?
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>>248220807
i rike and i kneel. kubo pls make it already i need to jerk off
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>>248220807
Why is his arm to tiny?
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>>248220807
I miss the golden tassel and turtle neck thing, but this is beautiful as well.
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>>248196811
That's not how the power works. It would be
"I remember days like this when my father and tsukishima/my father took me and tsukishima"
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>>248123727
still shit, strongest shinigami jobbing hard
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>>248221898
hes not that tough as it turns out
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>>248221898
He jobbed against the strongest quincy.
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>>248220807
Byakuya needs to remarry.
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>>248186189
>Yhwach shows up
Characters who died: 7
Sasakibe, Ukitake, Yamamoto, Unahona, Komamura, Nemu, Reio
Characters who actually died but were brought back from the dead: 10
Rose, Kensei, Toshiro, Rangiku, Kira, Ichibei, Nimaiya, Hikifune, Tenjiro, Senjimaru
>Aizen shows up
Characters who died: 0
Characters who actually died but were brought back from the dead: 1 (Ichigo)
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>>248224062
>What does Aizen and a kitten have in common?
Both are harmless
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>>248220040
Lol seethe
Kubo is the king of /a/
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>>248224062
>Rose, Kensei
Honestly those guys should've died
I would've been fine if Shuhei and zombie Kira became captains.
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>>248224062
>>248224182
Kubo's aversion to killing characters is ridiculous, this super war planned for centuries by Aizen (the strongest of the strong), two traitor Captains and an army of Super Hollows ends in absolutely 0 casualties.
Bleach ends up feeling like a kid's cartoon when you see it like that, everyone is gonna be OK no matter how much blood you're seeing on the screen.
I remember how disappointed I was realizing this when Chad meets Nnoitra and gets fucked up.

I noticed I had absolutely zero tension because characters just knock each other out with slashes and stabs in this series, I never remotely considered Chad was in any danger after goddamn everyone surviving the Soul Society arc.
Naruto had the decency to kill fodder during the chuunin exams.
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>>248225824
>a kid's cartoon
Weekly SHONEN jump
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>>248225957
I hate the fact that people on /a/ can't differentiate kodomo from shonen, kids from teenagers. It's one hell of a difference, Dragon Ball Z I'd never call "for kids" but Dragon Ball Super definitely is. Digimon and Pokémon are also for kids.
In those shows you just know the characters will be fine, there's little worry on that regard no matter what attacks they take.

Except for TYBW which is incredibly dramatic, most of Bleach has the Squad 4 / Orihime looming over it and making the series worse.
Dragon Ball had the decency of having 1 of 2 senzu beans per arc, they're always running out of them, and reviving only works once it's all over and you gather the balls.
Having the characters get slashed open and left for dead only to show up next episode fine with some bandages is madness.
I guess Kubo wasn't joking when he listed Saint Seiya as an inspiration, that's the other series I know in which this happens.
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why does everyone care about yamamoto jobbing so much? i know he's powerful but it makes sense that yhwach would kill the oldest, most powerful shinigami first. he should have seen more combat in the series beforehand, but i didn't care about the old man that much
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>>248226271
I mean what did they expect, for Yama to win and kill Yhwach and end it in 6 episodes lol
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>>248226271
It was the first time we saw Yamamoto's bankai in its full effect and Yhwach also completely disrespected him.
Even Yama vs. Wonderweiss and Aizen wasn't that bad because the old man got to flex without his zanpakuto but vs. Yhwach? He got played in one page.
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>>248212413
Absolutely
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>>248225824
>absolutely 0 casualties
Did you forget how many Espada and their minions died?
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>>248227920
I wasn't expecting the evil monsters NOT to die. I guess Stark and Ulquiorra were good enough that they almost count like a loss for the viewers
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>>248226198
>anon discovering seinen exists any time soon
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>>248186189
Yhwach is laughing because Aizen is bragging about being glued to a toilet for all eternity
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>>248228477
TYBW and Fullbringer arc are borderline seinen, they're almost transcending the limits of shonen.
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Bankai

Senbonzakura Kageyoshi.
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Bankai

Hihiyou Zabim-ACK!!
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>>248229793
Imagine having innocent Orihime as your maid... Oh maaan...
The things I will do to her at night....
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>>248230382
So pretty much this
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Not like this Bleachbros, we were the kings of /a/ a month ago.

RESURRECTION

Segunda Etapa.
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What exactly happens to an arrancar if its mask is completly torn off?
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MAMORU
GETSUGA TENSHOU
MAMORU
GETSUGA TENSHOU
MAMORU
GETSUG-
AAAIEEEEEEEEEEEE MOMMY
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>>248161602
When she shows up
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>>248232095
I WILL MAMORU THESE THREADS


GETSUGAAAA

TENSHOUUUU
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>>248232052
I hate Nnoitora so much.
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>>248232733
Yet that's the one Espada my dad remembers, he left the biggest impression. Whenever we're watching a new anime with a violent character with a big smile he goes
>Ohhh, just like the Espada.
Him and Neliel are the only ones he ever recalls.
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>>248232733
That’s what he wanted, really
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>>248232837
Kek, my dad only remembers the crying baby and the guy who lost his arm.
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>>248233122
> crying baby
Duh
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>>248230382
Why plant the thought in my degenerate brain
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>>248196114
You’re missing the point though. Aizen was behind everything.
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>>248138899
He has Yhwach’s power.
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>>248232201
>no peach
bleach ruined forever after
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bump
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>>248236790
-TSUGAAAAAA

TENSHOUUUU
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Orihime is not exactly a fullbringer. That’s all I know.
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Why did jump fuck kobo over
Not like bleach wasnt printing money
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>>248124455
>if they keep the trend going from the first cour then it will definitely be ichibei vs. yhwach.
It could very well not be adapted in the next cour at all. In fact, if it was to adapt as many chapters as the first cour, it would end just before it; and they might plan on expanding on some stuff (like Byakuya vs Robert, Candase and Nananana). If they actually put the Ichibe fight in, then that means they have just 76 chapters left for two cours. Granted, that's the part where you could expand the most, especially with the Soul King flashback missing, but still it'd be pretty weird. Assuming we're keeping the current pace on average, there should be more or less 43 episodes to cover the manga. So we should have ~9 worth of episodes of new content (of course that doesn't mean 43 episodes of manga adaptation and 9 episodes of OC, you can have half and half episodes for example). And I don't see all of this being put in the last two cours.
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>>248235767
You still don't get it?
It's Kubo's and the staff's way of telling Rukiafags to go kill themselves and that the anime is no longer about the Filler expressions filler dialogue Rukia lmao.
Adding an anime only bare ass floating on water scene for Ichigo's Asauchi and removing the Rukia scene. Fucking kek
Kubo is no longer playing with these Rukiafags, this time, he's planning on force feeding you that rain and dust cocktail.
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>>248161602
The most iconic part of the manga is chapters 51-182. Though it gets less of a "monster of the week story" a bit earlier with all the build up culminating in a larger arc involving all the characters introduced so far.
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>>248237125
We used to think that, but Kubo specifically had a broken shoulder and could barely draw with the pain so he rushed it.
The TYBW anime was approved right when the manga ended in 2016, so companies still trusted him. We even got a damn Live action
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>>248225824
>Bleach ends up feeling like a kid's cartoon when you see it like that, everyone is gonna be OK no matter how much blood you're seeing on the screen
First manga? You should read more than just Bleach when you get the chance
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>>248237717
Schizo-kun, they're removing more fanservice. We lost Matsumoto's sweaty boobies as well as Masaki's nipples. The scene with Orihime almost revealing her boobs is also a likely candidate for the axe.
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>>248229793
>No tits out or backless maid outfit
They really want to kill this game, huh?
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>>248238701
No, no, Naruto specifically avoided feeling like this and it's the direct competition. On a meta level you know the protagonists of 99% of series aren't in real danger but there's still suspense.
The chuunin exams in Naruto showed people dying left and right (the closest which I liked was the Academia flashback in Bleach with the Menos Grande interrupting their training), the dude who shot Sonic waves from his hands gets his arms broken by Sasuke, everyone is miserable, the examinator with a cough gets murdered, Lee becomes disabled, the Sound 4 arc...
I think it's because early Naruto made it a point that healing wasn't THAT effective. If a character got stabbed they'd die, we get TWO Tsunade flashbacks with her loved ones dying and the green magic can't heal them.
In Bleach they're like
>We'll call the 4th squad / Orihime lol

One Piece? No one dies as well. But at least there's no magic healer, the characters are taking real damage. I can introduce myself in the series and believe they're in danger. Bleach has too much healing and reviving for me to believe things could go wrong.
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>>248238741
You just wait Cope-kun
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>>248232052
Seems to cause a regression in development. For Pesche and Dondochakka, they seem to have reverted closer to their hollow selves and lost most of the human development that comes with being an arrancar. For Nel, maybe because she was so powerful, she retained her humanity, but it still reverted so she went from adult to child. All three of them seem to have also suffered cognitive regression as well.
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>>248239603
>One Piece? No one dies as well. But at least there's no magic healer, the characters are taking real damage.
This was true up to a point. As time went on, the characters started getting more and more brutal hits on and just shrugging them off. So when someone's damaged, I can't be arsed to care at all. But to your point, yeah, magic healers and magic healing methods are among the greatest cancers of battle shonen.
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>>248189553
based
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why did he do it
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SzayelaporroSisters... Hell arc when?
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>>248241057
Never.
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>>248241032
He was never the caliber of person he and others thought of himself as.
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>>248241057
Announcement coming with Bleach's 3rd cour. Trust the process
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>>248241032
read Can't Fear Your Own World
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>>248241057
>no breathes from hell
>breathes
Damn it Kubo you had a chance for a genuinely cool subtitle and you engrish'd it all up
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>>248220152
>This is why when he uses his Bankai to change his Yhwach's name to Kuroani, he said "Now you are LIKE a small black ant, a weak and fragile thing."

The problem is that the renaming of Ywach didn't jack fucking shit to Ywach; at best it pushed him away from the Royal Court. Only for him to awaken the Almighty and then he lolno'd his so called "transcendent powers."

>But his Shikai/Bankai powers can affect any physical object in the real world.
>it's not the power to physically change something, it's the power to change the utility of a physical thing by erasing/creating names.
That's a contradiction you moron. If the power affects any physical object, it would materially change the physical object. His powers are conceptual, but in that they are conceptual, also means that some concepts are beyond him. If his powers are so broken, Ichibei should have renamed Ywach to a dead man and watched as he just keeled right over. The fact that he went through an elaborate series of power plays but avoided leveraging any sacred named concepts shows the obvious limitation of the power.

It's not. The SK has godlike reiatsu in large quantities. In the Bleachverse, the more reiatsu you have, the more powerful you are and the more you're able to alter the physical world and reality around you. As son of the SK, Yhwach was blessed with the ability to absorb souls and reiatsu, hence why his powers are that of a god and why he was able to awaken the Almighty like his father. Yhwach is really a perfected, better form of the Hogyoku.

It is a 100% subjective because its not uniformly applied and obvious uses are not in any way used. On top of that, inherent multi-dimensionality bypasses it.

>You completely misunderstand (again) the whole dichotomy of White and OMZ.
Wrong. White devoured what would have been Zangetsu at birth, and his Quincy powers larped the hollow/shinigami hybrid energy. Zangetsu doesn't exist. Hence: BLADE IS ME. Hence: "I ain't got a name."
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>>248242442
Breathes are the new enemies, fool
trust the plan
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>>248242614
Ywach literally tells Ichigo that it was unwise to send a Sternritter to trap Ichigo, because Quilge's quincy reiatsu awakened the memories in Ichigo's reiatsu and thus freed him from the prison. Since the quincy powers in Ichigo, having gained an ego, something that no other Sternritter has, suppressed the core of Ichigo's powers and larped "Zangetsu" to convince Ichigo that what he wielded was the original. But the original, nascent shinigami power was consumed by the hollow which transferred from Masaki to Ichigo at conception and/or during birth--whichever event you want to consider. Ultimately, that became the dominant basis of Ichigo's powers. He became a human/hollow/shinigami + quincy hybrid. By leveraging the memories in the reiatsu, his Quincy powers created an elaborate ruse to get Ichigo to rely on him and the only time that the hollow ever came out, is when Ichigo relied on its power or was near death--which is the domain of the hollow, and thus White could take over.

When a hollow devours a soul, the original DOES NOT remain. This is a fundamental concept. The hollow passed on from Masaki to Ichigo devoured Ichigo's shinigami powers and whatever formative soul that might have been. White doesn't have a name, we just call him White because he's a white version of Ichigo; a negative copy. Every time Ichigo is taught to use his own powers, Quincy bit steps aside and let's the hollow do the talking. For the longest part, the hollow continues to talk about Zangetsu in third person--until a time where he stops talking about Zangetsu in third person. Which is roughly around the time of the Vaizard arc. Where he is wrongly told that he needs to beat and suppress his hollow, the nameless thing in his soul, which leads to a great reduction of his own power, etc. Its also in doing so that Ichigo begins to believe in having total control of "Zangetsu".

Simultaneously, because of TYBW and the novels, we know things can be sealed under false names. AND
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>>248239603
>But at least there's no magic healer
Law, Mink medicine
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>>248242969
>>248242614
>>248220152

Since Ichibe, somehow, blacked out Ywach's name in Ichigo's soul the first time (so fucking contrived), Ywach never bothered to correct that again and just pretended he was "Zangetsu" the entire time. In any case, the whole principle of "the blade is me" literally cannot work if "Zangetsu" is a physically distinct entity from Ichigo. The fact that this title drop happens fucking twice in the manga, would imply that "Zangetsu" has never existed. That's in turn why Ichigo convinces himself that both his Quincy powers and his hollow powers, BOTH, are Zangetsu. Because he learns the real truth, that everything was basically a conspiracy against him--including the memories with ego in his own mind against him or by powers beyond him interfering--and his own kin, abdicating the throne in telling him the truth after his mom dies.
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>>248243037
Yeah I dropped the manga somewhere in Wano so I probably didn't get to see the most much of that
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>>248228911
Honestly yeah, I've been reading some seinen lately and I was just thinking the plot beats and edge unironically aren't that different to late Bleach.
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>>248237125
>>248237872
I'm confused as well, why didn't he just pull a Togashi?
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I like the fact that Captains and their lieutenants always share a special bond in Bleach.
So this is Rukia's lieutenant right? I guess she chose right, he has experience and he knows the ins and outs of the 13th division, with both of them working together I think that the 13th squad has become the most productive unit in the Soul Society.
She even changed her hairstyle once they started working together, a side ponytail for less distraction and more focus on the work.
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>>248244012
a side ponytail is also useful for giving renji blowjobs anytime he wants (unless he wants a hairjob)
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>>248244012
Damn he looks a lot cooler now.
I always somehow expected him and the gloves girl to be secretly hatefucking
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>>248244012
Me too, I truly like the bonds shared between the lieutenants and their captains in Bleach. The man was basically crying for her sake, holding her tight while she rested her head on his chest, of course she would choose him as her lieutenant. The 13th division is in good hands with those two working together at the office every day.
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>>248229793
Cute maids.
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>>248243812
Yep, Kubo isn't concerned with powerlevels which is why sometimes we seethe here, but at the same time, it's respectable that he writes for the characters / plot that he has in mind, he's not limited by
>B-but X character was supposed to...
Kubo says a big fat 'No'. He's writing his story and the characters will win or lose probably based on ideals.
Even Aizen blitzing the Gotei 13 supposedly happened because Toshiro lost his cool.
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>>248244303
>hairjob
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>>248243095
>so fucking contrived
That's being too generous. It doesn't make any sense at all. Nothing about OMZ's reaction or later dialogue squares up with this whatsoever. It's not just contrived; it's outright contradictory.
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>>248226271
I think everyone just wanted him to go out with more respect. Maybe with a last bastion, potentially scaring Yhwach or something. No on e took issues with him dying per-sey
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>>248123727
I think the 2nd cour is gonna be viewed as a giant waste of time. Yes, there are bankai reveals and some fights, but with the huge cast bleach has, not enough time is spent on each character, that the pacing suffers. 1st cour was fast paced, but had shown some stuff while adding a few new things. 2nd cour, it's just going to be the same kinds of fights over and over. 3rd cour can introduce and build up new story elements from CFYOW. and 4th cour can payoff those elements we never got in the manga, by changing that god awful final fight.
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>>248241032
he wanted the most kino death in bleach (and he got it)
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>>248248659
This is something I commented in a previous thread and it might be redundant since I suspect we're the same posters as always, but Kubo really rushes things to fit with a volume ending.
I noticed reading Ichigo vs Kenpachi.
Ichigo finally starts hurting Kenpachi and winning, things are getting easier... and
Zaraki takes off the eyepatch saying the real fun begins now.
YOU WOULD EXPECT to have a kickass battle at this point, but since the volume is nearing its end, they end it in a single clash. It gets wrapped up.

Aizen vs Yamamoto was more of the same, I was flabbergasted with the volume in my hands when Yamamoto shows up to battle Aizen and there were so fucking few pages left. I was like, surely Kubo wouldn't do it...
And he does it. A speedrun worthy of the Olympic medal, Yamamoto bites the dust and explodes himself scaring Aizen for a page in a record time frame.
I thank the anime for making these scenes feel more important than what Kubo depicted.
Shinji vs Aizen as well in the anime I seem to remember felt longer, here it's 1 slash from Shinji, a page of talking, and then Aizen slashes him back.
If Kubo didn't operate like that, I'm sure Yamamoto could have put up a good fight. "You think I'm defenseless without my Zanpakuto? I'm the Captain Commander because no Shinigami stronger than me has been born in the last 1000 years" is what he said in literally his previous fight in this situation.
Try to pull some suicidal move with Ennetsu Jigoku, full body Itto Kaso, some sort of final skirmish with Ryuujin Jakka as Yhwach still overpowers him because he's tired, USING THE STOLEN ZANKA NO TACHI TO MAKE YAMAMOTO SEE SASAKIBE AND GIVE HIM PAUSE FOR A SECOND so Yhwach kills him in that instant (then the whole speech about going soft fits even better)
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>>248247150
I'm 100% convinced that Kubo forgot about that and was put on the spot and remembered about Ichibei and winged the answer and said Ichibei did it, and with the bullshit nature of the powers, didn't elaborate any further. It's a perfect deus ex machina plot weapon that you can use with impugnity: "I forgot a plot hole, haha; it was Ichibei all along."

It also, like, completely breaks all Bleach mechanics and opens up so many fucking problems. Like, even after Ichibei revives himself and Ichigo goes to rush to stop Ywach, Ichibei notes that Ichigo doesn't stand a chance of stopping him. If that's the case and Ichibei knew the history because of the original sin, why not just fucking black out Ichigo's ability to talk to Ywach/Quincy ego in his soul and just let him stay blind.

Genuine what the fuck. Or how Ichibei is completely unaware of reality warper Kazui now and can't do jackshit about it.
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>>248239603
>Lee becomes disabled
>the Sound 4 arc
You’re just describing Bleach and most manga again

>the examinator with a cough gets murdered
Yeah the dude whose name you can’t even remember. Good job ruining your own argument

>We'll call the healers / Sakura lol
>Just eat meat and sleep you’ll be fine lol
And people died in flashbacks in Bleach too
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>>248250459
>"You think I'm defenseless without my Zanpakuto? I'm the Captain Commander because no Shinigami stronger than me has been born in the last 1000 years"

The problem with this logic, ironically, also goes the other way. Yamamoto says no Shinigami stronger than him as appeared. But that also means he has not let a Shinigami stronger than him take helm; which also means that because of him, Soul Society has stagnated for 1,000 years.

That's why Aizen's war against Soul Society exists and why much of his interaction with Yamamoto is of such mockery and insult. Yamomoto reached the top and then sat on his ass with thumbs up his butt, unchanging. So much so that Yamamoto should have taken out Aizen in an instant, but ended up having to eat his own grenade he threw because he was too prideful and didn't bother listening to Aizen for what he said. Wonderweiss was created to contain all the energy released by the Shikai and Yamamoto. And the grand irony of that entire encounter is that Yamamoto talks down to Aizen the entire time, calls him an upstart, and unworthy of needing to use his zanpakuto against him and Aizen ultimately walks away with barely a singe on his uniform and Yamamoto lays in a crater of his own making, having sacrificed an entire harm, and achieved NOTHING in kind.

Proving in totality, that Yamamoto is the upstart/runt that deserved to be talked down to.
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>>248250459
Yeah you mentioned this before, how Kubo tends to think about how Bleach reads in volumes more than he does weekly serialization
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>>248250832
Jobibei should have stayed dead since juha absorbed the sk any ways
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>>248251004
I'm sure those 2 series and others can have flaws if we look hard into it but I still believe Bleach is the worst at this on a regular basis.
Especially because of the nature of the series ; this isn't your regular magic / martial arts shonen, they're slashing and skewering each other with swords yet we receive none of the expected casualties.

The first big arc SS has way too many "OH NO THEY KILLED X... wait no, I still feel their reiatsu... very faintly" aaand they're healed next scene.
Ichigo heals Ikkaku with some random gel he happens to carry, Ganju survived Byakuya senbonzakura no fucking clue how, Mayuri just turns into goo, etc..
It's exceedingly bad because of all the fatal blows we see.
In Naruto we had the sound 4 for characters surviving fatal wounds they shouldn't, and it's criticized, but that's every Bleach fight
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The ending with this song is so fucking kino https://youtu.be/7bjdQAGSRUI
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>>248251392
Zoro got sliced open and left for dead
>Luffy had a hook run through his spine
>Ussop had his skull cracked
>Birdman survived a nuke
>Donflamingo had his organs crushed
>None of them were even healed
And they were all fine afterwards as if nothing happened. Seriously stop reading only one series and realize that souls are obviously harder to kill than normal
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HADOU 89

KUROHITSUGI
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>>248252423
thats 90 actually
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>>248252539
Well fuck
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>>248229793
SUN SUN SNAKE SEX UOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>248252621
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSZzhTDcPis

its okay anon
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>>248253005
>teleports in front of you
nothing peronnel kid
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>>248253074
>teleportation
Since when were you under the impression that I can't teleport?
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>>248253498
amazing. Where did Kubo release this?
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>>248253568
the bleach exhibition that happened a year ago
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>>248253498
Kubo missed a few characters.
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>>248254711
Only notable miss is Ichigo
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he left ichigo out on purpose
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>>248253919
The EX is still on-going.
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>>248224062
Aizen killed Gin and Tosen tho. They were not relevant in any way, but he killed all the central 46
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>>248156990
This is probably good advice for all forms of artist to be honest
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>>248255770
He didn't kill Tousen. And the only reason he killed Gin was because Gin wanted smoke
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>>248205868
Can you imagine how utterly sick Ichigo would go if someone now threatened/ posed a danger to his *wife or son?*
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>>248161602
Probably when Uryu shows up and the story kicks off
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How many casualties are we looking at for the Hell arc?
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>>248256337
The nu-gotei cleanly sweep but it will be good fights
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>>248256337
Yamamoto and Kenpachi are both sides aces, not Kyoraku even though hes more suited to be the head captain
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>>248256337
All the bad guys die, the women live.
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>>248256337
Zero. Stop asking dumb questions
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How will they adapt this
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>>248256337
I can easily see Kubo doing some of his trademark blitzes. You know where on panel a character is fine, then the next they have some huge hole in them or are missing two limbs or something. But no deaths
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>>248249115
>I think the 2nd cour is gonna be viewed as a giant waste of time
It will because it is a huge waste of time.
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>>248256704
>All the bad guys die
Mayurisisters...
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>>248249115
That's an interesting take, but as long as it's cool, well animated, and has Shiro Saigsu music, new Bleach is never a waste of time
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>>248256870
They don't interact in this arc.
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>>248256337
Iba and Isane vs Saito Furofushi
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Does Isane have a bankai?
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>>248258071
She should have one considering she got promoted to be a captain.
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>>248256337
None, well Iba can take the fall and we pretend it had value.
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>>248125207
You can tell Kubo had fun drawing him.
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>>248186189
>shows up
>does nothing

More disappointing then Urahara.
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>3 days thread
Bleach sure is popular
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>>248259853
Who told you she did not?
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Are quincies ghosts or are they just immortal super powered people?
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>>248259891
Is that really your defense for this shit writing?
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>>248259853
I would guess it's because they were killed by quincies so they were erased from reality but then again Orihime has reality warping powers.
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>>248259902
Super powered people who became ghosts
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>>248260110
>so they were erased from reality
their bodies are still there
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>>248259861
Goddamn!! She is so fucking hot
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>>248244012
>with both of them working together I think that the 13th squad has become the most productive unit in the Soul Society

lol Kubo went out of his way to establish several times Hyourinmaru is the most powerful and greatest of all ice type zanpakutou, then gave Rukia an ice type. She will always be outclassed by Hitsugaya. It's funny how she became a captain while we as the readers know she will never be as powerful as the other guy with the same ability. It's actually even redundant for SS to have two captains with the same power.
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>>248260949
Doesn't Isane have an ice type zanpakuto as well?
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>>248123727
this fight is cringey asf there are so many "hes such a monster moment" before this fight that it just makes it worse
>>248124331
>The first cour has pretty much confirmed that only one fight will get exceptional treatment in every cour
have you not read the manga? thats just how the arc goes in general the only legit good fights in the arc and i use good very loosely are nigger vs kimono guy, fake ywach vs yama, mayuri vs shinigami hand and kenpachi vs gremmy every other fight is either ass asspulled or cut short, theres at least 2 fights where the quincy just get pissed off and immediately go into their 2nd form and lose a few panels later
>>248143657
based
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>>248261555
I can't remember but if she does I wonder how much weaker could it possibly be? I think it's funny that although Hyourinmaru is the stated to be the most powerful, it doesn't really freeze anyone. Sode no Shirayuki, on the other hand, flash freezes enemies like crazy.
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>>248249115
Bro it's a battle shounen
How are fights a waste of time if that's what everyone is coming to watch lol
For me, it's Kommamura.
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>>248251628
That's the new York one, right?
It's great
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>>248259704
>literally the only reason they won
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>>248259902
I always thought they were still alive and just lived forever
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>>248261802
>IESLB
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>>248261802
Imagine not liking maximum chunni
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>>248253498
This is the first pic I've seen that looks like a good balance between Retsu and Yachiru
>captcha oy0war
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>>248256337
The doggo giving something to his clan, SoiFon, Mayuri could stay there with an unknown future and Byakuya falls at the end
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>>248262517
Good battle shonens have fights that progress the narrative. Bleach has a ton of fights that you could remove, and nothing would change, especially in the last arc. Yes, you have those filler fights in other shonen, but at least they're interesting enough to keep your attention. Bleach has no strategy or teamwork to its fights, it feels like two kindergarteners making up powers as they go along.
>>248259727
I know, it's like only shipping arguments make the threads go by fast. This thread has been here forever.
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>>248191466
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>>248190712
Ichigo is a mix of ghost, quincy and hollow. Pretty sure Aizen never saw someone like him
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>>248259971
You are worried if Orihime healed some red shirts and it seems like a huge deal for you. It must be a huge deal.
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>>248262908
>teamwork
1v1s are superior
>it feels like two kindergarteners making up powers as they go along
Yes, it's great. You make a long-arse plan in a real fight, you go in and just fuck 'em up with what you got.
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>>248263244
*you don't make
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>>248263071
But he literally caused his birth? Him and Urahara can be considered Ichigo's godparents.
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>>248259727
This thread? All me.
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>>248256337
None because this is the strongest Gotei 13
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>>248249115
You’re never going to get your Ichigo and Rukia duo against Yhwach. This is Uryu’s arc.
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>>248262908
>Good battle shonens
Name them then
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>>248249115
the beginning of the second invasion genuinely feels like fluff to me until urahara comes in with his black pills for everyone to regain their bankai. until that, i really wish the gotei put up more of a fight because some of them look like an embarrassment for the seireitei
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>>248264551
Uryu sucks
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>>248265176
Yeah they don't look that powerful
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>necrobumping
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>>248267346
It's called Zanka no Tachi : South
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last for Isane is my wife
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>>248123727
I dropped the manga before this fight, by this single page I'm gonna guess moustache man wins
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>>248256337
Shunsui is dying and Toshiro will become the new head captain after beating hell Yamamoto
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That would be dumb as fuck >>248268677
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>>248268744
Strongest captain becoming the head captain nowthing dumb about this
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>anons think character will kill characters off in the hell arc
lmao
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>>248268846
If you die in hell, you die for real
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>>248264551
Based
Uryu is a bro
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>>248268784
Shunsui said Toshiro would surpass him... in 100 years lol
It's only been like 13.
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>>248270005
Shunsui wasn't counting on Toshiro having his bankai already developed but not using it because he dislikes his adult form.
Hitsugaya literally pulled a Segunda Etapa, he'd have been the absolute strongest Captain bar Yamamoto if he used his adult form pre-TYBW.

Of course we don't know if he could already use it before, but the 'petals disappearing' thing has always been there.
In Adult form he's relative to Shikai / Bankai Kenpachi (after getting his godlike powerup and surpassing Unohana who could murder a hundred Zarakis without breaking a sweat) and relative to Post-RG Byakuya, who got such a powerup he could dumpster 3 Sternritters (one of which took Shunsui's eye) at the same time.
Hitsugaya is the only one who didn't need any outside boost, he simply used his real power. So yea he was always secretly the strongest.
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>>248268846
rose or ken (not kenny the fist guy) can be killed off pretty easy
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>>248264911
I don't expect a hardcore bleachfag to consider any other shonen besides bleach as good, but if you must know, HxH has plenty of strategy, even naruto has some going there too.
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>>248264551
Considering how kubo jobbed orihime in her own arc, jobbed chad in his own arc, and even uryu got jobbed in his own arc, you're not making much of an argument. Only rukia's arc was the best one. And really, if you can have renji go and fight yhwach, there's no reason to have rukia stay back for whatever bullshit reason.
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>>248270625
They were already killed, it's a discount kill. Jeeeeeez Vizards don't even count as a proper kill anymore, fucking jobbers.
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>>248256337
Depends entirely on whether hollow takes over Ichigo in hell, like it did in the Hell-verse. Then all bets are off. That thing is reality breaking powerful, seeing as to how as its ceros are strong enough to blow open the gates of hell from the inside and seeing as to how its ceros are strong enough to erode the chains of hell into dust.
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>>248271318
Rukia was the biggest jobber of them all in her own arc
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>>248241032
Justice
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I like Bleach, but I want more BtW. Another volume and movie.
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>>248262925
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnk8XydQsI0
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>>248264365
Not according to Yuhabaha.
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Hell arc will be about Kazui been kidnapped in order to make him the new god or ruler. In hell all the races live together so the ruler must have them all. We will get old gotei 13 vs new gotei 13, first war quincies vs gotei 13, first vasto lordes and espadas vs gotei 13 and maybe some old fullbringers vs gotei 13.
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Mugetsu
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>necrobumping
>when there's only 6 posts left for autosage
You are mentally ill
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>>248275508
Just post three times
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>>248267346
Bleach thread special ability
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I saw some long posts but no "Ichigo bite in the ass"
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>>248182348
Oi, don't diss Shutara: serious yet knows how to have fun.
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>>248270236
>Of course we don't know if he could already use it before

We know. He couldn't. He said he finally mastered his bankai during the 18 months between fake karakura and the quincy arc. The adult body is also a cheat iirc. He can't handle the power of his bankai yet so he makes his body mature so it can handle more power.

>>248272122
That was boring.



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