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Can somebody please explain to me why this is s famous? Please Please I don't get it. What is so special and why is this so hyped up as the greatest anime of the decade? Please just somebody explain cause I read the manga and I don't get it. I am begging all Chainsaw fans here.
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Is the opinion of the mainstream really that important to you?
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>>242946039
don't ask a question in a question, that's stupid. answer the actual question.
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>>242946060
No.
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>>242946104
ok thanks asshole. here is a (you), now fuck off.
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>>242946060
>its another 'OP doesn't understand the mainstream appeal of something' thread
OP, I know its all natural for us to want to 'fit in'
But some things will just never click for you, so the sooner you realise that mainstream appeal needs to be ignored, the happier you'll be
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>>242945898
Cardboard characters that right off the bat rely on being depressed and cute at the same time. Desperately trying to hook on your attention and become sympathetic as quick as possible with no depth whatsoever (out of Aki Hayakawa, the only 'decent' one). Add in as much gore and mindless sex and fanservice you can.

There you go, the perfect Gen Z anime. Fitting for a generation fixated on internet pornography from a very young age. This IS the flagship anime for OF prostitutes and degenerates alike. You're welcome.
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Ignore OPs question,
but how popular will Chainsawman become after the Anime?
I think maybe slightly more popular than JJK but never as Demon Slayer.
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>>242945898
It's good.
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>>242945898
It's very simple and honest. There's not much more to it. It's a fun read, it's easy. It looks cool. What more could we wish for in a comic book?
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>>242946336
>What more could we wish for in a comic book?
Characters that have development?
unlike Denji who is still a loser.
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>>242945898
No one else thought of combining devilman, resevoir dogs and trashy horror movies before.
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>>242946498
And devilmans influence was the only good thing about it. And there have tons of series who took influence from it as well.
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Chainsawman is very niche anime.
It has too much gore, it is weird tarantino shit, has too much sexual stuff.


Demon Slayer appeals to a very wide audience.
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>>242946414
Funny that you posted the most static character in all of anime
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>>242946414
Not every comic book needs development for its characters. This concept is a very recent trend that came with youtubers misreading Joseph Campbell's The Hero With a Thousand Faces. The enjoyment of a story is not related to the development of its characters. It could be inherently funny, curious, mesmerizing. Not everything needs to be a journey of improvement/decadence, even in serialized narratives.
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>>242946526
Why did you make 2 extra space bars?
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>>242946545
>not everything needs character development.
true but if there is no improvement, the audience feels like they wasted their time. it all feels like a pointless journey. which is why Chainsawman Sucks because Denji is right now getting bullied in school in the recent chapters. he did not learn nothing. he a gay ass bitch
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>>242945898
the hype is fabricated. It is the "loud minority" zoomers screaming GOAT ANIME! everyday on twitter.
my aunt knows demon slayer but she will never know CSM because it is garbage.
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>>242946545
Yeah, but in this case, it's a detriment to the story since it's supposed to be a coming of age story and even the last chapter of Part 1 purported a change in Denji's character, a slight hint of maturing. Only for it to get all thrown out of the window with this continuation since writing a Shonen with a dumb loser MC is far easier for the author, so he can keep insisting his quirkly jokes and witty quips to entertain an equally dumb audience.
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Denji is the worst protagonist in all shonen manga.
We are at Chapter 104. I saw this nigger Denji beat up the most dangerous and most powerful Devils and now he is getting harrased and bullied in high-school, it makes no sense. Someone like him after going through all that shit would never behave like this in High-School. It's absolutely Bizzare and I am legit considering to drop this garbage manga.

pic related
embarassing and fuck this manga.
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>I don't get it!
Why can't you people lurk more?
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>>242946756
Pathetic self-inserter rightfully btfo
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>>242945898
if you don't get it you don't get it. Nothing anybody can say would be a satisfying answer. Just accept that you don't get a popular thing and stop letting the fomo get to you.
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>>242946756
You can feel all the western influences has gradually rotted Fujimoto's brain, he can't help himself but insert at least one meta joke or dumb reference in almost every chapter. He let fame get to his head
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>>242945898
OP it is not famous, it's just the fans are fucking screaming all the time on the internet

its a mid anime with zero character development or interesting end goals. it has no story.
Denji's ambitions are dogshit, Hayakawa is forgettable. Power is decent and the only ones I liked are Makima and Kishibe. The story is decent/mid.
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>>242945898
CSM = the gore of Berserk + the heart of Mob Psycho 100 + Devilman + Abara's designs.
It's fun, unpredictable, character focused and very wholesome. If you didn't enjoy it you are probably just old. CSM's themes resonate deeply with zoomers because they are the loneliest generation, they don't have a purpose/are only interested in instant gratification (the invention of the smartphone is the worst sin of humankind) .And yes, I know that a lot of shonen manga are about friendship/family but a lot of those use tropes that no longer work today (e.g the pure selfless hero).
I'm 22 btw
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>>242945898
ecelebs have been saying the manga is popular so an anime adaption will likely also be popular
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>>242946959
This is the best explanation.

Chainsawman is a garbage manga that only resonates with the lonely selfish psychotic zoomer generation. It has no wide appeal.
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>>242945898
It's just different from the usual battle shounen programming so it's easy to see why casuals who haven't read anything beyond WSJ would be very impressed.
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>>242946959
>it's unpredictable
everyone predicted was the endgame villain from chapter 1 pretty much and aki's death as well (who didn't, with all the deathflags? lmao)
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>>242947014
makima*
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>>242947005
but the mc is a pathetic loser
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>>242947014
i don't think people expected Himeno too die that soon or to see Denji ride a giant shark. It's not the best story ever written but following it weekly was an amazing experience
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>>242946526
This. I don't understand anyone saying chainsawman having mainstream appeal. It isn't shit you can just sit down and watch with your whole family. It's like niche experimental cartoon only shown at festivals while Demon Slayer is like Disney.
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>>242947063
himeno was hardly a character people gave a fuck about, how would they? with so little screentime and everything, not to mention that the cast got over her death pretty quickly.
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>>242945898

Once the anime drops and the views are bare minumum flop, all these CSM fans will go back into the shithole they came from.
the hype will end as soon as the Anime drops, then the normies will see it's generic mid pathetic mc anime. Also episode 1 is not gonna keep NPC normies engaged cuase nothing happens in EP1
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Do you all seriously think NPC Normies will watch Chainsawman?
First of all the gore will immediately make them turn this off, it's not wide appeal like Demon Slayer.
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>>242945898
It's momentarily hype, I can bet with you now that a year or 2 years from now you wont hear people talking about the anime once it ends.
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>>242947079
>got over her death pretty quickly
definitely not Aki.
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>>242946414
>goku
kek, nice bait
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>>242945898
I liked it but I am also confused by the hype. Maybe if I had read it without knowing all the hype surrounding it I would have liked it more, I dunno. I liked Fire Punch more though.
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>>242947014
This flavor of revisionism is my favorite. There was absolutely no consensus that Makima would be *the* actual big bad, we just knew she'd be antagonistic in some sense.

>aki
The author literally tells you through future that he was going to die through future devil and people still thought he'd make it out somehow.

There was absolutely no person who guessed that the entire main cast would die and the MC would live with the reincarnation of his love interest/big bad

t. In the threads since chapter 3
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>>242946615
>>242946756
Denji literally has barely social skills and just because he beat strong devils doesn't mean is going to automatically fix all his personal issues and saying he learned nothing not only is wrong considering he did learn he shouldn't be ignorant and should take control of his own life.
>>242946642
>even the last chapter of Part 1 purported a change in Denji's character
For the last time they didn't chapter 93 straight up explains on why Denji wants to be CSM and last two pages of chapter 97 literally said he only save girls, for part 2 probably will be about Denji maturing and self improving.
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>>242945898
>famous
Everyone has already forgotten about it because of the cybertroon shilling. Nice try though csmtard.
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>>242947299
>There was absolutely no consensus that Makima would be *the* actual big bad, we just knew she'd be antagonistic in some sense.
lmao are you serious anon?
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>>242947141
>normalfags hate gore
You people aren't even making sense anymore
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>>242945898
The main antagonist is not only well written but it's one of the most evil beings written in modern fiction.
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>>242947336
>makima
>well written
Jesus I knew CSMtards were up their own asses, but please read more
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>>242945898
its a Series with enemy designs from spawn with some comedy on the side.
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>>242945898
>it's another episode of "OP doesn't understand why something he doesn't care about is popular"
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>>242947336
Accurate description, wrong manga.
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>>242946642
you just didn't understand the ending of Part 1, which was not about Denji giving up on his shallow dreams but about him becoming independent and freeing himself from Makima's control. We can even see this in one of the most recent chapters, the one with the cake. What did Denji do? Instead of letting Yoshida control him he fucking ate the cake with his hands. Yes, he is still a retard but he is now free. That's what part 1 was about
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>>242945898
Couldn't tell you either, honestly. MC is a pathetic retard who makes weird faces and burp sounds and Im supposed to relate to him, but that's hardly possible when you are in your mid to late 20s. I just dont have respect for characters who don't have a shred of self-respect. Another thing that bugged me is how the overwhleming majority of the antagonists are literally just mute NPCs for the good guys to overcome. It's like the author didnt even try to come up with interesting thematic antagonists, something you'd normally expect from a battle shonen. It's all just half-assed overdesigned characters with no charisma.
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Marvel humor + gore + edge + duuude i like boobies is guaranteed to make Americans love your series.
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Artificial hype. I've never seen such a nothing series get shilled so hard. It's also worth noting that 99% of the shilling comes from americans
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>>242947321
>heh u srs bro, the more dismissive I am the more right I seem, heh
Yeah, no. I'm right. I'd link you the pastebin so that you could educate yourself if I weren't on the shitter. Moral of the story is stop being a revisionist asswipe. This will be your last (You).
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>>242945898
It's edgy jujutsu kaisen (inb4 jjk is already edgy) with a hint of dorohedoro sprinkled on top.
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>>242947431
>accepts money to be a chair for women
Originally I thought that anon was a retard but your argument has actually swayed me in the opposite direction. He's right, this mangaka is a hack.
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>>242947464
So really thought you could larp as a "veteran" csm reader and didnt think there would be an archive out there to easily prove you wrong?
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>>242947370
t. Lelouch fanboy
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>>242947471
JJK and CSM have only surface level similarities and aren't really like eachother at all in content. CSM is nu-devilman mixed with FLCL.
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>>242947508
Listen, Makima is just not that well-written like you proclaimed. The only genuine interactions she had throughout the story was with Denji, and that was reduced to just her having a hard-on for his inner demon persona, not even his real self. On top of that, there was no logic to her powers. She just pulled shit out of her ass and you were supposed to accept it - the most annoyting type of "smart" written in fiction.
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>>242947532
>>242947471
CSM is dorohedoro + devilman but by an author who can't draw to save his life, everythign looks like sketchy shit. Even JJK looks cleaner
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>>242945898
it is AOTD
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It's clearly not your thing and you seemingly don't want other people to convince you to like it so why bother?
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>>242947480
it was his choice retard, he wasn't forced to do it.
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>>242947562
Simping mindlessly for women and money is how he got into the Makima situation to begin with.
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>>242947548
>JJK looks cleaner
Definitely not. JJKs art is better than CSMs in a lot of ways but clarity and cleanliness is not one of them, kek.
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>>242947051
>Denji
>Loser

This ain't no One Piece bud. Denji a man who overcomes his adversities with a lot of effort.
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>>242947431
>which was not about Denji giving up on his shallow dreams but about him becoming independent and freeing himself from Makima's control
But wasn't all of that his own choice, and didn't he say he still had feelings for Makima despite all the shit he pulled? Your interpretation isn't backed by the character's dialogue in the manga, you just pulled that out of your ass. Plus what this anon said >>242947480
Imagine talking about "becoming indepndent" and shit like that when he doesn't even have the slightest shred of dignity.
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>>242947582
The difference is that he also didn't have a choice since Makima told him she would kill him if he didn't follow the orders. I bet that in the next chapters we are gonna find out he is just trying too earn some money to care for Nayuta and everyone will change idea about Denji again
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>>242947596
Yes, JJK's art does look cleaner than CSM's. Though this might not be true with the latest chapters since Gege is just phoning it in at this point.
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Series is tailor made for reddit
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>>242947708
>now
Nah, the amount of times I've seen a JJK panel and have no idea what the hell I'm looking at can't be counted on my fingers and it has been happening for years. The same never happened for part 1 of CSM for me.
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>>242947818
If that were true, nobody would praise the choreography in that manga
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>>242947635
>But wasn't all of that his own choice
50/50. He did choose to give up control over his life but it's something he regretted at the end. That's the point.
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>>242947780
Notice how the part 1 examples were kind of tasteful or at least felt natural while the part 2 examples just come out of nowhere from character it doesn't make sense to hear those things from.
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>>242947818
What you described applies to CSM's more than JJK
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>>242946176
Seethe
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>tfw you were on /a/ to witness the legendary moment CSM airs
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>>242947832
Those things aren't even close to mutually exclusive, but OK?
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>>242947935
They are. Illegible art (what you are implying) would also affect things like choreo, which clearly it doesnt.
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>>242947582
>Simping mindlessly for women and money is how he got into the Makima situation to begin with.
That not even what happened, he was threatened with death if he didn't work for public safety it didn't had nothing to do with money or him simping for women also him wanting money was because he was homeless and being forced to pay the debt of his father.
>>242947635
Denji still loves Makima even himself said he is a terrible person for still loving her(Denji sees Makima as a mother figure) but he's not going to let her to control him anymore and he ends up killing her.
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>>242947890
What CSM panel do you have a hard time literally deciphering the thing being drawn? That pretty much only happens in JJK.
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>>242947988
this anon gets it
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>>242947974
Or maybe I wasn't saying that literally every page was illegible? There are bad panels and good panels.
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>>242945898
normal guy but chainsaw head
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>>242947990
It doesnt happen that often, but every once in a while you get busy pages like this where things dont immediately catch your eye and it's hard to focus since the composition is all over the place. Especially when he spams these speedlines everywhere
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>>242948047
Thats literally the one page I had in mind. Notice how I said part 1 and not part 2. Fujis art has declined in the most recent chapters.
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>>242947336
>Makima
>one of the most evil beings
Just because she killed your waifu doesnt make her the most evil being in fiction, waifufag.
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>>242948071
Yeah it's true that his art started to decline, but like I said, Gege didn't have this issue either until much later when he rushed his art.
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I like the dynamic between the everseething pseuds that "didn't get it" and the eternally coping cocksuckers that praise [thing] to high heavens in /a/. It has happened a thousand times ten and it's never boring.
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>>242948113
I just disagree that gege's problem is a recent occurrence. It has gotten worse in the past year, but has been a general problem for years now.
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>>242945898
>>242948149
Did JJK and SxF ever get threads like these?
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>>242946545
>character development bad
>ooga booga caveman simple good
No wonder you like this naruto-tier trash.
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>>242948184
His art in the first 100 chapters or so wasn't nearly as sketchy and hard to decipher as it's currently the case. I mean just look at this shit, his art degraded the same way Fujimoto's did. Maybe not that extent, but his art looked a lot cleaner early on.
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>>242948246
No. CSM is much more popular than those two were on 4channel. Plus CSM has an artsy bend to it that is missing from SxF and JJK that attracts snobs, critics, and psueds alike
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>>242948299
I agree. It's kind of funny how the art started to degrade as gege chose to focus more and more on HxH esque autism battles. Curse of Togashi.

>togashi started to draw again thus year
Maybe gege's strength is being sapped.
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>>242947303
Mate if you previously butcher demonic abominations with your bare hands as a government day job then you’d actually run into the issue of reining in your murderhobo impulses and not just slaughter any enemies or obstacles in your social life.
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>>242945898
It's better than wanpiss. I hope it beats wanpiss in sales so we can see that subhuman manchild oda seething again like when Kimetsu defeated his hack ass.

That congrats communicate oda was forced by wsj to write, way after every other author congratulated Wani, was funny as hell.
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>>242946959
This
I never gave a shit about Denji I always thought he was a faggot, I only like him because he's the chainsaw devil and the monsters he fights look cool and zoomers only like him because they can self-insert the loser shounen protag with le donut steel secret power that wrecks the shit out of everyone
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>>242948246
>>242948311
Yes it did at least for SxF (That the one i remember the most) with every thread being
>"i don't understand why is popular"
>"i don't understand the hype"
>"i didn't like the show explain to me why is popular and why should i like it"
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>>242948562
Probably because it was the most popular new show that season. Shitposters will flock to it because its the only one that stands out the most. It’s likely that it’ll blend in this Fall with CSM taking most of the brunt.
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>>242948246
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>>242948694
what a fucking shithole this site has become kek
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>>242945898
Same reason why Berserk was so popular in the 90-00's, and devilman in the 70s, babbeys first goreathon with a "relatable" MC
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>>242948481
based post
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>>242948715
Surprise, surprise. There’s another.
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>>242948723
but the MC is not relatable in the slightest, at least if you have tiny bit of self respect
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>>242948770
>if you have tiny bit of self respect
then you would read actual literature instead of reading a comic book aimed at prepubescent teens, which surprise surprise, is the exact audience CSM is aimed for.
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>>242948904
The target audience is pubescent teens, thank you very much
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>>242948926
Thanks for reiterating my point cunt.
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>>242945898
Chainsawman is for lonely virgin perverty audience. ONLY
if you are not in that demographic you will not enjoy it
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>>242945898
I sincerely hope the anime fails so I can see all the fans cry on twitter
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>>242948971
You said prepubescent, speedreader
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>>242945898
its shit
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>>242949026
But what if It didn't fail? Will you bitch and moan and make threads like OP instead?
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I dont want to be here when the anime drops, its goong to be cancerous
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Reddit: the series
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>>242946545
Well, if you are telling a serious story with some sort of journey, you probably should be baking in some form of development, especially if a person is out of their element. It makes sense a master of their craft in their craft field would learn very little over time, but a newb thrown into a crafts has loads to learn. To have a character not learn anything only renders them a retard, which is not great for emotional attachment from a reader's perspective.

Comedy is the exception to the need character growth. And even then, playing with growth expectations is a good idea so you can pack in even more comedy.
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>>242945898
#1 Fast paced action shonen with cool designs. Every chapter gave us something and no arc lasted longer than it needed. The drawings are not that good, but the designs make up for them.
#2 Slow paced chapters as breathers for the arcs were equally as good. This was the time when characters could interact and although it didn't happen often, the conversations were well written and gave the series some depth.
#3 WTF plot lines. For a series with less than 100 chapters Chainsaw Man had some of the most batshit insane plotlines and the best thing was they came out weekly so you knew every week would be another present.

Of course, in this whole explosion of action most characters didn't stay for very long and those that stayed longer reached their development just before their time came to go, so in that aspect it will feel not as memorable. This series will be remembered like fire punch: a lot of ideas jumbled together that somehow came together, although imo the ending was done much better in chainsaw man.
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>>242946959
The character writing of a short lived webcomic, the art of a high school project, and the fanbase the equivalent of kpop fans.
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>>242946532
Goku BROKE you.
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>>242946756
What did you expect from Denji, retard? He knows how to cut up demons and nothing else.
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popular. the word you're looking for is popular, not famous you ESL fuck
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>>242950280
this is so true and why Denji is the worst mc in Jump history
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>>242946756
>I saw this nigger Denji beat up the most dangerous and most powerful Devils and now he is getting harrased and bullied in high-school, it makes no sense.

Last I check the guy is still a teenager and beating up demons doesn't really mean you start maturing as an adult which is what I think the 2nd chapter is going to be all about with Not-Makima needing to be cared for.

>Someone like him after going through all that shit would never behave like this in High-School.

He came from absolute poverty. You don't get rid of those sort of habits easy. Also, he doesn't really seem to be giving a shit about getting 'bullied', if you can even call it that. He's Chainsaw Man.
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>>242945898
Chainsoiman has normie appeal because youtubers react to it and NPCs consume anything by youtubers
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>>242945898
npc anime
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>face gets cut up
>entrails come up
wtf is wrong with redditsoiman
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>necrobumping
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>>242947537
>and that was reduced to just her having a hard-on for his inner demon persona, not even his real self
That's the point. She doesn't like Denji, she likes the Chainsaw Devil, and that's because she wants to use it's power. Makima is a literal psychopath who can't form any meaningful relationships.
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>>242946176
>There you go, the perfect Gen Z anime. Fitting for a generation fixated on internet pornography from a very young age. This IS the flagship anime for OF prostitutes and degenerates alike. You're welcome.
I really hope Berserk isn't your favorite manga
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i think its one of the first series that normalfags read before an anime has come out so they can't help overhyping it. as for why the manga is so popular is just because its in jump and a unconventional battle shounen with spunky characters. there just isn't any other competition right now.
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>>242946060
>Ahhhhhh! People like things that I don't! I don't understand! Please help me /a/!
Actual low-functioning autism.
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>>242946414
>unlike Denji who is still a loser.

He became free from Makima, Chainsaw Man is a beloved hero, Denji finally gets to have a real life now. To say he hasn’t changed is extremely inaccurate.
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>>242947464
this anon is right
I'm sure some people said "makima is the final boss lol" in the first chapter dump thread but it really wasn't narratively clear for a long time
and it also wasn't clear which characters were plot armored and when plot armor could get revoked
by the end in retrospect CSM had a pretty conventional structure and anime people are going to read the wiki/get spoiled by the internet and then find the plot getting to that point boring
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>>242947698
I mean, he was willing to run away with Reze, not caring that he'd be hunted down and potentially killled
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>>242947780
Anyone else think the series should’ve ended when Part 1 was over?
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>>242946176
Holy fucking seething
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>>242945898
It's called marketing.
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>>242946999
>Chainsawman is a garbage manga that only resonates with the lonely selfish psychotic zoomer generation. It has no wide appeal.
Most retarded post I've seen in this thread
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>>242947150
>I can bet with you now that a year or 2 years from now you wont hear people talking about the anime once it ends.

That's literally when season 2 will drop, you know, the season that contains the actual good parts of the manga. Then there's also the chance that part 2 of the manga will hook people again. (Although, it does look like Fujimoto has lost his touch, judging by the recent chapters)
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>>242956593
To be fair that was after he was forced to join public safety and Denji genuinely liked Reze
>>242956648
>The four horsemen of apocalypse gets introduced
>Pochita's special ability still being unexplained
>The Blood Devil reunion
>Denji and Nayuta (Control Devil in general) not having their character development completed
No, it had too many things left to be resolved with the new plot points being introduced in the last arc of part 1
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>>242957068
>Then there's also the chance that part 2 of the manga will hook people again
Honestly, while part 2 is off to a rocky start, I think the same criticism can be applied to part 1. While it had great moments, to me at least, it didn't really come into its own until the Katana Man Arc, which is where the story truly started getting wild.
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>>242956648
part 1 is an ending to the manga tbf. I told all my "I only consume completed shows" moron friends to just read part 1.
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>>242945898
a lot of people liked it, is that simple



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