>"it's supposed to make her sound more innocent so it'll surprise you later!"Firstly, fucking everyone with more than two brainscells suspected makima since chapter fucking 15 or so when kisibe implied makima let the killing of several agents happen.>"It's supposed to sound intimidating/unnerving"No it fucking doesn't, she just sounds like a fucking loli, what the fuck are you smoking. Makima did not get extremely popular, a shitton of fanart and cosplayed to shit because people imagine her as a fucking loli>"It's supposed to show she is just lonely and like child who just wants a family"fuck off retard>"she's intentionally doing a loli voice to make herself seem more personable"nice headcanon retard.Look at the pic. Can you imagine this loli voice saying this and sounding intimidating at all?
Who are you quoting?
Summer time render has haine and she's pretty indicating while maintaining the cute desu
she's just some manipulative bitch devil, she can sound like anything.
>>241065184>she just sounds like a fucking loliStopped reading right there, kill yourself shitposter
the voice doesn't sound like a loli in the PV. But nice effort, 7/10
In general makima voice actor is not pleasing to listen to its not even the loli voice
>>241065223dumb copes I keep seeing on the internet, not even just 4chan. I see these same copes across the web.
>>241065291>not a new IPOP pls
>>2410652800/2 of your ears are working..
>>241065317I'm not op. I'm the phone poster with the typo.
>>241065184OP is a turbo fag.
>>241065184Okay but who's gonna be her Portuguese dub VA?
>>241065184I have no idea who was even casted as her VALike nigga construct your plea for reinforcement better than this
>>241065184It's okay because Makima is shit so a shit VA fits her just fine
>>241065338little girls have higher voices than that retard
Makimafags with their cringeass barking simp behavior are by far the worst part of this fanbase. Pleases me to no end that this perfectly fine casting makes you lot assmad for betraying your headcanon of ara ara dom mommy voice.
>>241065184My younger sister had a deeper voice when she was 15 lmao.
>>241065184Twattershitters like you deserve to get shot.
>>241065184>Look at the pic. Can you imagine this loli voice saying this and sounding intimidating at all?there is a complete genre of cute lolis doing and saying fucked up shit while killing you so yeah I can and her voice is not bad for the role like you make it out to be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVUMZDco2aI&ab_channel=Coruchii
>>241065647Dont kid yourself, she sounds like a child.
I feel like all of the western hate for Makima's voice is a thinly veiled attempt to normalize dubsdubniggers fuck off back to r*ddit
>>241065184Wahhhhhh trannymoto adaption gets what it deserves wahhhhhh
>>241066252And usually that is for comedic effect, not for serious roles.
>>241065184>THE IDOL DEVIL
>>241067004obsessed with trannies, chainsaw man and fujimoto.That's 3 levels deep of rent free
>>241065184only contrarians and fujimoto fangays defend this huge miscast.Every website on the internet is having doubts about this casting EXCEPT for reddit.
>>241065184I fucking love laughing at shounentards and their hopes and expectations shattering every single time.God bless CRAPPA.
this is what happens when your headcanon an anime character who you think sounds like a mommy
>>241067183Reddit is probably fuming but they don't show it, as for us Idolfags we're enjoying your tears
Makima voice actor sound like she recovering from COVID or she just got done throating all the oji san on production staff
>>241065184Let's think. It's not just the VA having a cute voice, it's that said decision tells us her scenes will be directed so much differently.Makima with generic anime girl voice means her scenes with Denji will be treated as a cute thing probably to lead shippers on, instead of the saliva gulping tense moments they really were.That whole scene letting Denji grab her breast is supposed to be somber and foreboding, like, she's a fucking cold sociopath you shouldn't get involved with, but the new voice will surely play it up like a romantic moment.
>>241065184Yes. Loli voices are very intimidating. No sarcasm. I'm serious. And I love the casting. Cry more.
>>241067457Well she want pochita dick so it's not entirely wrong
>>241065184SnK will forever be remembered as a train wreck.HxH will never finish. Dragon Ball will never be good again. Bleach was never taken seriously.You lost.
>>241066896Dubs are still shit and Makima's dub VA is definitely gonna sound like a tranny>>241067168No one likes trannies and Fujimoto is destined to join the 41%
>>241067629Shounen are just gateway anime for kids anyways.
You aren't special for liking a monthly senien that updates once a year
>>241067701I doubt a successful guy will off himself at the height of his fame
>>241065184>loli voiceyour brain is rotted. seek help
>>241065184>Whine about the manga 4 chapters in >Whine about any hint of cgi, even when it looks good>Whine about the colors>Make an OP like "this is possibly the worst VA casting in anime history"You people sound like brats. Like a woman on her period. You Complain about everything and I hope you never get what you want because you dont deserve it
>>241067776>hasn't watched the previewshe sounds 10 years old
>>241066053Tell her to stop smoking crack.
Imagine watching anime in 2022. You only have yourself to blame csmnigger
>>241067629How the fuck did you manage to casually name my favorites in a single post in a thread about one of my new favorites, what the fuck even connects these 5 series?
>>241065184>Due to fan reaction Tomi-san will be replaced by famous Vtuber Sakura Miko.
>>241067990Cool it with the racist remarks
>>241067999>snk>Your favoritesGet the fuck out tranny
>>241068084Ignoring the final chapters, find me an anime like SnK. You can't.Animation is the best out there, setting is interesting as fuck (both pre and post ts), plot never drags on because it evolves genre every fucking season going from gore to action shonen to horror to Mecha to a war drama and these are all done masterfully up to the rumbling.The rumbling as well, you won't find many anime giving the viewers an actually good dillema that STILL has people discussing to this day because it's just fun.Let your people die, or squash the rest of the world? Everyone has their answer, including those trying to find an in-between solution.
>>241068228>Ignoring the final chaptersyou cant. They literally change the whole story. Its like saying"this is a great joke but the punchline isnt funny at all"
I don't know what you are talking about OP, every time I see a CSM thread all see is people saying how they picture Makima sounding as an idol who voices lolis, I've never seen the words Sawashiro or Sakamoto and Makima together before today, Imo they nailed the casting plus she also looks like Makima and is almost the same age, she could cosplay her and do videos and promos as her and I could retweet them and post them on r/anime, think about all the karma we could farm.
>cretins on the internet think know more about the intended voice of a character than the actual mangakaSo you believe Fujimoto is a hack who, despite being in the room and almost certainly having a veto as even much less influential creators do, desecrated his work of art for literally no reason. Why do you continue to care about something written by such a person?
>>241068271It contradicts the very plot and writing of the characters to a level I invoke Death of the Author.I mean, we already do that with anime that have original ending. "Watch it but only up to X, the rest is shit". Rurouni Kenshin is still a great anime ignoring the last 30 episodes after Kyoto.SnK should be evaluated like that. We also used to have a "Bleach ended at Aizen" or "Watch One Piece but stop at the timeskip" crowd. Some series are fine if you accept there's no ending and enjoy the good parts. SnK was full of those good parts, Isayama would have to come out of the TV and shoot my family for me to not recommend SnK.
>>241067121>idols control the masses through their songs>Makima is literally the control devilMakes sense
>>241067886-and sick with strep throat. Stop watching porn. 10 year olds don't sound like that and Makima is clearly just using an inside voice. We'll get something more fitting when she shows her true colors.
>>241068228>good dillemaI was with you (mostly) up to this part. The "tensions" during the Rumbling was absolutely retarded. Things are weighted way too much in the favor of Eren committing the Rumbling with how ridiculous almost every other countries' vitriol towards Paradis. It has no legitimacy when Hange opposes it when nobody actually came up with an actual plan that has a good chance to guarantee the Island's survival. Also, everybody in the Alliance becoming buddy-buddy so easily is fucking stupid.
>>241068387The author can be wrong on that front, he's a mangaka not an Animator.The anime team is the one who should know better how to translate his manga scenes into the big screen and I'm fucking sure Makima's moments are drastically worse now
>>241068406I can't do that. Isayama ruined the manga. It's canon. It's what all those good moments lead to
We could've gotten this Makimahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBInVL7zwl0
>>241068430I didn't mean in-universe. The rumbling is obviously the best choice. But out of universe, even looking at everything, you have people going full Hange>NOO SHUT UP, SHUT UP, GENOCIDE IS WRONGbecause they can't bring themselves to push that button and kill others, they'd rather die knowing they're not killers.It's a cucc mentality yes, but there's a dillema. A couple million of people reading the manga couldn't bring themselves to support the rumbling and defying all logic we still argue on the internet.
>>241068387>So you believe Fujimoto is a hackYes
>>241068495I don't need to click that link, I agree Nightingale's voice is pretty much what I imagined and I didn't even know it.Makima should have sounded like a Jojo, Fate ,Unineko or Danganronpa character. All super serious, strong, analytical and intelligent.. commanding.Now she sounds like generic anime girl, that's the best way to put it.
>>241065184It doesn't suck. The seething brain rot coming from 4chan is such a joke. Cool your tits and let the rest of us be rightfully hype.
>>241065184Seriously. This is so, so fucking bad. The voice itself is fine, but not for this character, not even a little bit. >>241067457You're probably right and I hate it.
>>241065184This is like the 12th thread complaining about this.
>>241067457Are you saying cute voices can't be seductive? Do you think she can't change it slightly to fit the scene? I think you could call that ACTING?
>>241065184Reminder that these are stealth coom posts. People upset about the casting are femdom fetishists who wanted a really over-the-top cheesy mommy domme voice for Makima.
>>241065223Literally no one
>>241068697I think it's more like he's saying a voice like that is -too- inclined towards being seductive, but not all inclined to being scary?>>241068729I don't think anybody seriously wants her to be all 'ara ara~'We just want her to sound like a convincing heartless psycho when it matters.
Why can't you tards just say "high school girl instead" of "loli", your criticism will still be valid, but won't sound retarded anymore.
>>241068803yep this.I can't say it better, I just think the scenes will be as dark as they should be.
>>241065184>Can you imagine this loli voice saying this and sounding intimidating at all?Yeshttps://youtu.be/y-mLpLI4P0o
>>241068817Because high schoolers are lolis nowadays.
>>241068803>I think it's more like he's saying a voice like that is -too- inclined towards being seductive, but not all inclined to being scary?Makima isn't scary. She is more unsettling due to her behavior. Her voice being cute doesn't take that away. She is still creepy
I think it sounds fineNot sure what all the complaining is about
>>241065184>loli voiceWhy do you keep saying this? She doesn't sound anything like a loli.
>>241068933I personally think the voice can still add or detract from that sense, but..I suppose we'll just have to wait for the show. I'm genuinely hoping I won't mind it, when the time comes.
Tomori keeps saying she loves Makima and Chainsawman, yet she insisted on taking part in the audition to voice a character she definitely won't fit, possibly ruining experience for millions of fans. Love my ass. She's just a clout-chasing whore. If she has respect for the series she claims to love so much, she'd resign and give the role to someone more deserving.
>>241065184What surprises me at all was anyone being worried about the VAs being all nobodies. They all sound like any other seiyuu they aren't even doing some great voice work in the PV or anything. The only thing I didn't like is that Denji's voice sounds weak when he's angry or in pain. The guy they got for him can only do it right when he talks and whispers
>>241069224She should have waited to get nayuta role
>>241069224>Tomori keeps saying she loves Makima and ChainsawmanIs there any VA that doesn't repeat this same line for whatever role they're cast as? It's blatantly bullshit 9 times out of 10.
>>241066053Probably sucked too much dick
watch the show then cry, faggots
>>241067121>>241068418>idols suck their producer's dick>so they got a voice actor who would suck the producer's dickMakes sense
they ruined my dommy mommy, I cant coom like this
>>241069632There's still a chance we get Tia Ballard for the dub
why cant sawashiro voice literally every female character ever
>>241065184Autism, but I figured she would have the Kirigiri voice actor. That one has the same innocence, but haughty and slightly bitchy undertone.
>>241065184It's just a voice actor.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-xdnSKXTfw
>>241065184>she just sounds like a fucking loliForeshadowing for Nayuta.
>>241069732No way she's voicing Makima unless she sucked many dicks.her voice is way too childish
>>241065184>angry mangatard being angry for no fucking reasonwhewfuck off
>>241069274>They all sound like any other seiyuu they aren't even doing some great voice work in the PV or anythingMAPPA realized this too and it was their way of maximizing profit by paying less for voices
>>241067886Got voice she voicing older character? So far i know she only voicing teen or loili but her seiyuu performance is top tier.https://youtu.be/yYVZM19ItpE
>>241065184This website literally never recovered from Fire punch story time, you can literally tell a before and after that month.
Why the fuck are people still seething at the casting? It's been 12 hours now.Ara ara mommy dom shit is for low T faggots and it's canon that Aki was head over heels for Dogfucker-san so it is fairly in line with his character that he wouldn't be a subby swoyboy. If anything the seiyuu can make her voice lower to deliver lines like the one in Op but thinking that the anime is ruined because of her casting is retarded.In any case, if tou want silky smooth deep female voicing then it is certain that Kobeni will be voiced by someone like that.Checkem
>>241070153Fuck you numbers devil
>>241066844The fuck would you know about how the child sounds, when you aren't allowed in a 300m proximity of one?
>>241065184This is her voice in anime so far, she have range right?https://youtu.be/jhHnp7_Pv9E
>>241070153The numbers devil doesn't give dubs to those who post cringe, anon.Heed this.
>>241070405too hightoo young
>>241070405...it really was a strange choice for this character, wasn't it?Let's hope for the best.
>>241070426>>241070237how do you lads explain that 666666 get when Makima showed Angel the corpses of the beach people?
>>241067880despite being only 13% of the population, the hacker 4chan is responsible for 50% of /a/'s threads
>>241068871Imagine thinking shit like this qualifies as "intimidating"
>>241068871Are you retard?
>>241065184Is her seiyuu suited for Nayuta role?
>>241069224This is the most entitled, out of touch thing I've seen today, and I've spent all day replying to seething retards. THEY cast HER. If they didn't like her voice, they wouldn't have cast her. If she's a bad fit, it's the fault of whoever cast her. From what we've seen, Fujimoto is heavily involved in the production, so presumably she's doing the role as he envisioned it.
>>241068871>Makima should sound like le evil schizo loli
>>241070807They miscasted her.
>>241068387>he thinks Fujimbo had much if anything to say about most aspects of the animeAlso this >>241068437, sometimes it's better not to learn an author's head(canons) because they can be fucking retarded. Manga artists do well precisely because their work isn't voiced.
>>241065184Seeing you casual as fuck "weebs" spurge out over your fad manga series getting a less than ideal casting is making this entire debacle worth watching.Maybe you'll learn to read manga that isn't mainstream garbage.
>>241070911But romin is the ideal casting choice.
>>241067999Your huge tits gave you away
>>241065184>implying Makima was every intimidatingMakima is and has always been a pathetic cumdumpster with a practically empty head. There's no need to glorify her.
>>241065184this will be canon
>>241066053your sister will never a man
>>241068803>>241067457You faglords haven't even seen the anime yet and you're all already overreacting.You weren't there during the audition. You don't know if Makima's VA could or couldn't be seductive while at the same time, brutal and psychotic at the same time seductive.>BUT LISTEN TO MEEEE IT ISN'T LOYAL TO THE SERIES AAAAHHH>WELL WHAT DO YOU MEAN FUJIMOTO IS DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THE ANIME ACCORDING TO THE STUDIO???? THAT DOESN'T MATTER I KNOW MORE AAAHHHHH FEED MY AUTISM FEED MY DELUSIONS AAAAHHHHCan you faggots please shut up?
>>241070807>From what we've seen, Fujimoto is heavily involved in the production,Based on what? I remember reading an interview in which he said he's leaving everything up to the anime staff because it's not his area of expertise.
>>241071348>the position you're against is based on a performance being shown in a trailer that's supposed to sell you the thing>your position is based on your wet dreams about the audition you also haven't seen and your cope dreams>Can you faggots please shut up?Lmao.
/a/, 4chan, and the internet in general are generally really chicken little about shit. The sky is always fallingHowever every voice I heard in that trailer was wrong and it will significantly impact the series to the point that it should be fan redubbed.
>>241065184Wow japanese fans are vocal about the new casting and they are not happy. They're discontented with the way Makima's casting happened and the whole kawaii idol voice route. I guess they were holding out hope for a deep, dommy mommy voice. There's even a petition that's garnered thousands of signatures to have Makima's seiyuu changed to Maaya Sakamoto. Obviously that won't happen but it shows how unhappy they are.
>>241065184>>"god i hate what this website has become
>>241071412More like: >their position is whole trailer = whole anime>my position is whole trailer =/= whole animeNice attempt at strawmanning, faggot.
>>241065184>in anime historyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtzlKJ1dObU
>>241066053fuck of coomer
>>241071843god, that's a memorypure gold
>>241071783You position is coping like a retard, we talk about the stuff we have, you talk about your wet dreams, it's that simple.
>>241072093No, you're talking about hypothetical shit, I'm talking about the fact that the whole trailer isn't the entire anime and you don't actually know shit.Christ, it isn't even that bad. I could understand why people don't equate that voice with Makima, but Power and Denji's are fine. Power's is good
>>241065184Makimafags are so autistic
>>241072197>No, you're talking about hypothetical shitNo, we're talking about the actual content that we have and can discuss. You're talking about hypothetical cope shit with your "what if she's good achchckshually even if she's bad in the trailer that's supposed to sell the anime with its best showing and make you hyped".
>>241072295>No, we're talking about the actual content that we have and can discussAre you from MAPPA? Show us the entire anime then, faggot. Because looking at all this it seems every faggot complaining already watched it.This is pointless, and going in circles, so whatever.>>241072232As a Kobenifag, I just want to see her animated and I'm happy. She is perfect.
>>241072352It's pointless because you repeat the same cope mantra like a retard instead of talking about things we can actually talk about.
>>241065184The VA just doesn't fit the character as established in the manga, it's pretty obvious, the only counter arguments are "it's not that bad" or "that's just like your headcannon, man"But Makima in the manga is cold and calculating and hands out just the right "rewards" to Denji when he does what he's ordered to like she's training another dog.She's the god damn control devil, as long as you think she's higher up than you she'll have power to control you, for that to happen she needs to have the aura that makes people submit to her.
>>241072632>as long as you think she's higher up than you she'll have power to control youretard, it's people she sees are below her
>>241072739*sees as below her
>>241065184>>"It's supposed to show she is just lonely and like child who just wants a family"I actually agree with this. The problem is that this aspect of her is supposed to be a twist not something obvious. I'm not saying they should have given her a dommy mommy voice but a more mature one would have been definitely appreciated more. Her current VA simply doesn't have a good range, she always sounds the same
>>241068495Just the mere thought of that has me bricked up. What the FUCK was Fujimoto thinking
Makima should have been voice by Shinobu's VA. She is capable of sounding both seductive and childish and Fujimoto is a huge fan of Kizu
>>241073072Isn't that a signal of assurance, if Fujimoto likes this, and as shown that he is deeply involved in the anime, then maybe Makima's VA is also capable like Shinobu's VA
>>241073111>as shown that he is deeply involved in the animeCan we really trust MAPPA? I hope you are right anon
>>241073149Why shouldn't you? I mean, we don't want MAPPA to fail, right? The anime's practically finished now at this point since the release is months away, it can't be helped now.
>>241065184I just wish she and Power didn't sound like babies. I get that it's typical where Japanese casting is concerned but it's possible for a woman to have a soft, gentle voice without sounding like an infant. So lame. The PV didn't look that good anyway.
>>241073379What do you mean? Isn't Power essentially a demon but with a child-like personality? Power sounds exactly how I think she should sound.
>bait threads get more answers
>>241065223the voice in his head
>>241065184Your image of Makima as a character is not based on the actual manga, but memes and fan-art.That is why you believe it is bad casting. Reread the manga.
>>241065184Lmao chainsawniggers getting angry that their headcanon wasn't respected in the anime
>>241065184>m-muh Mappa>m-muh CGI>muh JJK-look>muh Makima voiceI can't wait for the next thing you shitters will be angry about regarding this adaptation
>>241065184>fanboys mad at people complaining about their adaptation lel
>>241065184wouldn't say it's awful but it's pretty meh.this series is overrated shit anyways so I don't really care though.
>>241067183no.even reddit is having doubts. Bit they can't express them openly.But you'll see a lot of "it's not what I expected but I'm sure it will be great", "I'm not sold on makima's voice but I'm sure it will be great" and other variations of it.
Makima seiyuu before auditioning for the csm roleshttps://youtu.be/bOb6xSZnlDE
>>241065223op didnt drink his meds again thats why he is ranting his own ideals and fighting it.
Why the fuck are people here ready to die defending anything MAPPA does?
>>241074641Do japs use illegal manga readers?
>>241075605Being a whiny bitch about everything is not a personality.
>>241065184It's worth noting that if you don't speak/know Japanese you literally aren't capable of understanding the ways in which she can sound scary and intimidating that don't rely on tone alone.If you whine about this voice being outright unfitting instead of just something you didn't expect, then you're just outing yourself as someone who doesn't understand what she's saying.t. have Japanese speaking friends who think she sounds plenty intimidatingIt's worth noting that around half of the (presumably) cherrypicked Japanese tweets that get parroted on here are often surprised instead of outright upset.
>>241068871This made me laugh hard. If that's what Fujimoto wants me to do with Makima, then they made the right choice.
>>241076001Are you just not going to acknowledge the part where understanding of a language is required to, you know, understand it?
>>241076062It's ridiculous. You think that no one can't tell anything apart because they have to understand the language then you discredited some users posts while using an anecdote (not even something posted anywhere) as back-up. You said "surprise" yet no one sans "your japanese friends" are saying anything about "intimidating".
>>241076062Which is why I compared you to Smurf "my japanese friend told me".
loli voice apologists BTFOED
>>241076150>You think that no one can't tell anything apart because they have to understand the languageYes, unironically. Language is very dense and nuanced and I sincerely think you only speak english if you don't realize this. Sure emotion can be conveyed through tone but if you literally don't know the language then you are completely missing out on a whole part of interpreting a casting choice.The most reasonable thing you can do if you don't know the language is to not make a hasty judgment and act as if you truly know if it's a good choice for the voice or not, since you do not understand what she is saying.>no one sans "your japanese friends" are saying anything about "intimidating".Sure, but that's also partly something that is conveyed through choice of words. Her having a cute sounding voice doesn't cover the entire subject>>241076166That part of my post has nothing to do understanding Japanese or not, nor does your response acknowledge that a large amount of Japanese posters online have been surprised at the casting instead of outright negative.
>>241076210I have a japanese friend right here and they say that you are wrong. Nice try buck-a-roo
>>241076210She can be maternal to denji without sounding like an ara ara millf lolShe's still a pretty young girl
>>241065184Kek. The amount of makimutt assblasting was worth it.
>>241068495Oh look this "perfect voice" doesn't fucking fit the character at all, just a weird flanderised version of it in your head.I would believe you retards haven't read the manga at this point. I love hearing casting advice from people with the equivalent understanding of a wikipedia summary, you would be right at home at Netflix.
>>241075903Nigga, she sounds like a loli doll. If someone says something menacing with the tone of a fucking duck, I'm not gonna take it seriously. Same applies for someone that sounds like a child. It breaks the immersion.
>>241076256>youngShes 24, old enough to have kids
>>241076234You still argue about "surprising" while saying "intimidating" because your japanese friends. Tell your japanese friends to post something on 5ch or whatever so that you have a post to "cherrypick".I speak 2 languages.
>>241076302Oh sorry I must've forgotten the part where having kids makes your voice turn into a milf. The point is that a girl in her early 20s can definitely sound like that
>>241076210Any opinion expressed by an iToddler is retarded by default.
>>241076278My japanese friend says it's the truth.
>>241076307>while saying "intimidating" because your japanese friendsWell fucking discard that part then if you don't believe it, it's just an anecdote I wanted to add.The core of the argument still stands, if you don't speak Japanese then you don't understand what she's saying and it's moronic to make a blanket assumption on the viability of this VA since you do not know what she is saying.>I speak 2 languages.based
>>241076290My japanese friend says that Donald Duck in Japan sounds terryfying because they are japanese.
>>241076290>Nigga, she sounds like a loli doll.the hell is this rhetoric, she doesn't sound like a loli at all, she just has a cuter voice than you expected. Adult girls can have cute voices I'm pretty sure
>>241076346I understand what she is saying. Do you know what subtitles are? Also I read the manga.
>>241076383A translation is just a translation. You know an approximation of what she is saying in English because that is how translation works, you do not truly understand what she is saying because you do not speak the language. If you think subtitles are enough to fill in everything about a language then I don't know if this point is going to get through to youThe manga you read is also presumably a translation, you reading it doesn't mean anything in regards to your understanding of the language it was written in lol.
>muh you can't tell if you don't understnad japanesedumb semi-lingual mutts. most people aren't tone deaf like you.
>>241076427This is funny because you opened a can of worms that no one understands anyone unless they are a native speaker. You don't get anything either because you are not japanese.How human civilization came to be is now an enigma because anon here did a tower of babel.
>>241076450Tone has nothing to do with the choice of words they are using hahah, are you serious? You practically admitted to only being able to perceive roughly half of what a person is trying to communicate even then attributing half of linguistic understanding to tone is pretty generous
The casting for Power is worse.
>>241070405Haha makima does the little work senpai green haired girl
>>241076475>that no one understands anyone unless they are a native speakerI never said that, I said it's obvious that people here don't know the language and saying "I totally understand the tone of their voice dude!!" is not a substitute for knowing a language. One can learn a language, so I did not open any can of worms or claim that people across languages were unable to communicate.> You don't get anything either because you are not japanese.I admit to this freely. Like I said it is stupid to behave as if you truly know whether a casting choice was accurate or not if you do not know the language. That's not to say we can't perceive or get anything from tone, we definitely resonate emotionally with vocal deliveries and I think that goes a long way in our ability to care about fiction that aren't in a language we know. But empathizing with tone is not the same as understanding a language fully, I don't think this should be hard to admit, especially if you speak two languages.At best it's reasonable to say it wasn't what you expected and that it feels unfitting, while admitting that you don't truly know for sure as you do not understand her.
>>241065184>seething this hard over a voice actor for an anime that isn’t even out yetanon do you like, go outside and do things? no self respecting adult with friends and a job can actually spend this much time hating on something this trivial. I need you to get a real hobby anon, your mom and I are worried about you.
>>241065184>A mid tier shonen gets lazy casting Oh no! Anyway
>>241065184this manga is cringe and not in the self aware fun sort of way but the edgy way
>UHHH YOU DON'T KNOW JAPANESE YOU CAN'T TELL IF THE VOICE ACTING IS BAD
>>2410766291. that wasn't what was stated2. you don't know the language you retarded weeb
>>241076637>using weeb as an insult on /a/go fucking back to youtube
>>241076618The nigga really me besserwissing with his terrible takes when he doesn't even speak Japanese.
>>241065184>a shitton of fanart and cosplayed to shit because people imagine her as a fucking loliLol noNice try troll
>>241065184>muh voice castingkek nobody cares about the real life person voicing the character
>>241076649>if you don't speak/know Japanese you literally aren't capable of understanding the ways in which she can sound scary and intimidating that don't rely on tone alone.how is this not correct?
>>241076649and you can barely speak english lmao
>>241076658are you illiterate?
1 ep is our already?
>>241076584Your admissions are irrelevant to me because they follow a narrative I don't agree with. You are like the guy saying you can't really say X isekai is bad unless you have a deep understanding of ancient chinese literature. Your defense is just to complicate the subject to handwave critics.
>>241076647it's just surprising that some people that like anime so much can have such a fundamental lack of understanding when it comes to language
>>241076706you're projecting.you aren't even aware that a lot of people here are fan translators"muh none of you know jap so stfu you know nothing!" is a retarded argument regardless. go fucking back.
>>241076700Also we have achieved bigger things as humanity without "deeply" understanding language. This is why I told you you did a tower of babel.
You still don't rike me, /a/?
>>241076700>you can't really say X isekai is bad unless you have a deep understanding of ancient chinese literatureI'd say that knowing a language that you're critiquing voice acting from is a much more reasonable expectation than having a deep understanding of ancient chinese literature. Don't you think it's more reasonable?>Your defense is just to complicate the subject to handwave critics.No my defence is to explain that any of us can't provide meaningful critique if we're criticizing the spoken words of someone speaking a language that we do not understand. Why is this not reasonable? Can't you simply know better than to not shit out sloppy criticisms when you're fully aware that you don't know enough to make such a criticism with certainty?>Also we have achieved bigger things as humanity without "deeply" understanding language.For sure, we've done a lot to understand each other as a species both with and without language. But this really isn't about a deep understanding, this is about a basic understanding of language. If you're judging something only by tone of voice and not the rest of the langauge, isn't there a fundamental part of the equation that you're not including in your criticism? Doesn't that heavily devalue said criticism when you can't even understand what you're going up against?
>>241076729>you aren't even aware that a lot of people here are fan translatorsI am well aware, I just am under the impression that they know better than to make retarded posts about this voice casting decision since most people who are throwing a fit seem to not be capable of accurately making such a criticism.>"muh none of you know jap so stfu you know nothing!" is a retarded argument I didn't wholly say this, I even said that we can perceive and analyze tone without the need of knowing the language. What I did say was that a meaningful part of the language (that is, knowing it) is completely missed out on and people who do not speak the language should be more humble in matters that involve criticizing the language lmaoThis isn't an unreasonable thing to say.
>>241075903doesn't matter what she's saying when she doesn't sound intimidating, jackass
>>241076897what an astute observation from someone who does not know what she is saying
>>241076689you don't know japanese, yet you're spewing word vomit why a shitty miscasted voice is akshually a good thing.
>>241076923doesn't matter what she's saying when she sounds ridiculous saying it
>>241076930That anon wasn't me. I didn't say the voice was actually a good thing, I just said it's good to be humble when neither of us can fully understand the language. Again, you calling it "shitty and miscasted" is fundamentally inaccurate since you're only gauging it by tone.
>>241076829If you look at low budget amateur videos from other countries you can see a similarity in acting compared to the ones you know in your native language. Your reply, which is just a handwave, is "it's complicated but not really my japanese friends told me so, am I really unreasonable?"Yes.
>>241076940she just sounds like a young woman, which she is.I don't really know the sentence structures she's using as I don't know the language so I can't say much more and mean it as a sincere criticisim
so let me get this straight, you want the cartoon of a woman in her early 20s to sound like your mom? anon there’s clearly something wrong here, and it’s more more serious than the casting
>>241076992she sounds like a little kid. you don't need to know what she's saying to have an opinion on whether that voice is a good fit for her or not
>>241076923Here's a military officer warning an enemy facility of an impending attack.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8K_VW7EyCM
>>241077032have you ever heard what a child’s voice sounds voice sounds like? i know you’re not allowed within 200 meters of them but surely you’ve heard one in your life
>>241076986>If you look at low budget amateur videos from other countries you can see a similarity in acting compared to the ones you know in your native languageYes, like I said we can parse tone and resonate with it emotionally, we can even (to an extent) recognize good and bad acting, although there's a whole can of worms involving culture there too. I feel like I've explained this fairly thoroughly, you interpreting the tone of her voice is not a substitute for knowing the language, you do not know what she is saying. You're getting obsessed over the anecdote too which I told you we can discard as you're correct in that it does not add anything to the argument.I said that knowing a language that you're critiquing voice acting from is a much more reasonable expectatino than having a deep understanding of ancient chinese literature. Reiterating as you appear to have misunderstood me, this is not a handwave, it is a legitimate explanation that we do not know the language and it is inherently foolish to think we can make accurate assessments of it.
>>241077077child’s voice sounds voice sounds like? what do you mean by that, i don't understand
>>241077024She doesn't sound like a little kid she sounds like a young woman. >>241077070if your implying that Makima sounds even close to this then you're laughably wrong
Years of pedoshit has rotted anon's brains to the extent that can't discern a child's voice from a woman's.Delete this shithole website.
>>241077077Says the guy that thinks childlike voices sound like adults. Your perception of adult voices sure are interesting my man. I wonder what else you perceive as "adult".
>>241077160the adult voice actor, for one
>>241077139I'm implying that tone is important if you want a character to be credible.
>>241077091>Yes, like I said we can parse tone and resonate with it emotionally, we can even (to an extent) recognize good and bad acting, although there's a whole can of worms involving culture there too.>Reiterating as you appear to have misunderstood me, this is not a handwave, it is a legitimate explanation that we do not know the language and it is inherently foolish to think we can make accurate assessments of it.You can't have those. What does you talking about "recognize good and bad acting does" if at the end you'll just rest comfortably in "we can't make accurate assesments on it"? It's a handwave. Oh, you are a bad actor but I don't get you +r language so I guess you may be good? Nonsense. Perfection is not required.
>>241065184You absolute fucking retard.
I’ve never seen /a/ get this passionate about an anime, chainsaw chads are eating so good it’s unfair
>>241077150Also because it's the voice of a 22 years old girl who speaks in her natural voice.Oh, this site one day will be deleted. But someone will build another chan. This culture sadly won't die out.
>>241077160he probably runs around telling little kids "you're so mature for your age, you sound just like an adult"
Cope with the EN dub. In 2022 /a/ will unironically praise the fucking dub of an anime its supposed to like.
BASED LOLI DOMMY MOMMY WIFE
>>241077202Knowing a language =/= perfectionNor does it require some kind of genius level intellectI'm saying that even if I sincerely feel that someone may be bad at performing, there's still a significant unknown element to my critique which is that I literally do not know what the person is saying, not in a true sense.Why get so hung up on casting when we can more accurately attempt to criticize the storytelling, the composition, the character motivation and the animation?
>>241065184i can't imagine a woman intimidating at all
>>241077160Her seiyuu match Makima face
It's made by Crappa is gonna be shit either way
>>241077347>I'm saying that even if I sincerely feel.Now you just went there, making your assesment on "bad/good acting" even more irrelevant. You follow it with your usual "it's simple but very complicated" handwave. In a "true sense" he says while arguing it's not perfection while throwing these mythical words around.Your last paragraph can't be discussed till the anime airs.
Was Makima ever actually supposed to be the "dommy mommy" that people act like she is? The impression I got was that she was detached from whatever was going on around her. Himeno is much closer to what I'd consider an outgoing/intimidating woman.
>>241065184Tell me you're am autistic tranny faggot without telling me you're an autistic tranny faggot
>>241077347I understand what she's saying and it doesn't sound intimidating at all.The Japanese tweets saying the voice doesn't match weren't even cherrypicked lol
>>241068941Because 99% of weebs are over entitled coomer degenerates who live to bitch about shit and take Fandoms way too seriously. Just laugh at their autism like the rest of us.
>>241069224Pure schizophrenic energy
>>241077623just live with it, Not like Mappa gonna change the seiyuu anyway,
>>241077623Well.. *ahem* my japanese friends would like a word with you.
>>241077558Not really, that's mostly projection. She is supposed to be a cool character though, so I'm curious if Tomori will be able to pull it off.
>>241069224>Anyone interestedHer talk before she auditioning for CSM rolehttps://youtu.be/bOb6xSZnlDE
>>241077725I mean, I'll have to. Just sucks that Makima happens to be my favourite character and it's bad enough that her design gets ruined by the end of the manga, now her voice sucks too.
Don't care. I knew the anime would be shit from the first fucking preview, the dumb faggot twitter tourists on here were defending the preview despite the failure to capture the aesthetic of the manga and containing retarded sex appeal shit and vivid colors.Stop caring what twitter fujos and underageb& chuunis that have low IQs think and just choose not to watch yet another bad adaptation by clueless otaku.
>>241077751My Japanese friend is a little more Japanese than yours and he agrees with me so checkmate
>>241073788What are some other examples of characters that way much different in fanart compared to the original?Yeah, it is true. Many Makimafags only like her because of the fanart. Not even exagerrating.
>>241077760She sounds like a nice person and have a nice laugh sad talk /a talk bad about her.
>>241077846Then I'll get more japanese friends to outjapanese your japanese friend.
>>241065184Her voice fit Makima the problem is that she sound like reading the script rather than acting. I hope her voice from this pv not actual cut from the anime.
>>241071636>deep, dommy mommy voice>maaya sakamotoKEK
>>241077018>Fujimoto is a tranny pedophileAs expected
>>241077991My dad works at Japan and gets me free samples of Japanese all the time and he says I'm right.
>>241065184What did they do to my girl.... fire everyone.
>>241065184>Meanwhile Power is voiced by Fairouz AiPowerbros we just can't stop winning
>>241075903to be fair, you have to have a very high iq to understand voices. The pacing and emphasis is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical villianess acting most of the subtlety will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Makima's desire for a family, which is deftly woven into her voice - her personal philosophy draws heavily from Kafkaesque literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these of this voice acting, to realise that it's not just kino- it says something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike this VA's voice truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the subtlety in Makima's existential catchphrase "A corpse is talking," which itself is a cryptic reference to Tim Burton's A Corpse Bride. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Fujimoto's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. And yes, by the way, i DO have a japanese speaking friends who think she sounds plenty intimidating. And no, you cannot see them. They're for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid
>>241069674Because shes 40+ and married. This always happens with VAs
>>241078216my dad is the CEO of japan and he says you need to give me 5 bucks or I'll tell mom
>>241075903>if you don't speak/know Japanese you literally aren't capable of understanding the ways in which she can sound scary and intimidatingAre you autistic or something? You don't need to understand a language to understand when someone is showing emotion or is trying to convey a feeling
>>241071259Damn it I want Power X Denji to be cannon so badly that it hurts :*<
>>241079005To be honest? I kinda thought that powers voice was going to be a little deeper too.
>>241065223Have you not been reading the threads...?
>>241065184Yeah, Chainsaw Man is the most embarrassing franchise with the the most embarrassing fanbase, what else is new?
https://is2.4chan.org/wsg/1659784989662423.webmThis is what she's supposed to sound like.
Am I wrong or Denji voiced by Accelerator/Bakugo?
>>241077018so let me get this straight, you want the cartoon of a woman in her early(?) 20s to sound like your little sister? anon there’s clearly something wrong here, and it’s more more serious than the castingAlso, Makima is like as old as humanity.
>>241082445No it’s Kikunosuke Toya but guy sounds similar.
>>241081891Like I said in another thread, Shinobu's VA would have been perfect
>>241065184>Look at the pic. Can you imagine this loli voice saying this and sounding intimidating at all?CSM fags are such normalfags my god...
>>241066844well yeah, she's from japan.
>Office lady in a very high administration>Mother figure to Denji>Supposed to project pure "Control", from her eyes to her overall appearance, to, of course, her voiceIt doesn't fit in any department. It's a miscast.
>fucking everyone with more than two brainscells>brainscellsSounds like you just have the 2
What happened to /a/ is everything a loli to you retards now?
all this shonen shit really needs to get segregated to its own board. the shitposting culture around all these series is spreading like a cancer through this board