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I'm rewatching Ufotable's Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (2014-2015). What do you think about said anime series?
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>>230974427
they fucked shirous character, dumbed everyone down and rin poops
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>>230974427
Zero was better.
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>>230974427
Its fine thats about it
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>>230974427
10/10. Near-perfect adaptation with some mostly minor issues. I prefer how some things here than in the VN. Introduced me to series and the novel. I started out thinking Shirou would be just a regular shounen protagonist, was extremely pleasantly surprised to find him one of my favourites of all time. Used to love Rin for her looks, fell in love with her personality as well.
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>>230974427
It's really boring to watch. Also, the intended order is Fate -> Unlimited Blade Works -> Heaven's Feel -> Zero, so people who are introduced to it out of order thanks to ufotable's retardation have their perception distorted and basically become mentally disabled for some reason. I've never seen this with anything else, so it's a very strange phenomenon.
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First Caster in the Fate/stay night anime, now Archer in UBW...
Maybe I'm blind, but I don't think that Rin is a tomboy.
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>>230975064
>I've never seen this with anything else, so it's a very strange phenomenon.
lol you really haven't interacted with people a lot online, have you?
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>>230975119
I want to beat the shit out of this ugly cunt
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>>230974478
>Keep the socks on.
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>>230975119
She is, but only a little bit. Archer calls her a tomboy because he knows she's a bit insecure about her femininity so he's pushing her buttons. Her doing push-ups and being into baseball show her tomboyish leanings but overall she's among the more feminine in the cast.
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>>230975167
No, I mean even if someone is introduced to something as detached as an out-of-order adaptation, if they go to the source material they can still usually digest it normally, but with ufotable's Fate anime it permanently, foundationally changes how they look at it.
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>>230975729
I started out with UBW and understood everything perfectly fine as has virtually anyone I've shown it to, this is just making excuses for sub-85 retards at this point
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Could Fate work in live action?
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>>230975427
>Her doing push-ups and being into baseball show her tomboyish leanings
That's just scratching the surface.
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>>230976881
Her anus might be defenseless, but her abs are probably not
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>>230976299
Vin Diesel as Shirou
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson as Archer
Jason Statham as Lancer

>>230976881
that from HA? Imagine fucking her brains out in her gym while she's wearing this

>>230976985
Eh? Maybe not, judging from the sex scenes--she gets extremely turned out when Shirou starts licking
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>>230977494
>that from HA?
Exactly.
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I almost want to thank her for her job.
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>>230974427
I only watched like 10 episodes before dropping it. I already read the VN and didn't care enough to see this route adapted.
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>>230976881
>One worthy of being Saber should, daily, with a barbell..."
Based Starting Strength enjoyer
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>>230974427
Rin's thighs and ass were glorious
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>>230976163
If you think saying that means anything you completely missed the point. If you misunderstood something of course you wouldn't recognize that misunderstanding. If you really got it, what's Archer's most important line of dialogue and why?
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>>230977839
This is extremely silly. For one, the bulk of the "issue" with UfoBW was that a ton of people missed obvious (EXTREMELY obvious) cues regarding Shirou's character, from visual storytelling to in-you-face dialogue, and thus completely missed the point about how Shirou's experience in the Fuyuki Fire is the cause of his self-effacing heroics. Asking something like "what's Archer's most important line of dialogue and why?" on the other hand is silly because art is inherently interpretative and subjective to an extent. What you or I may consider the most important bit of dialogue could be entirely different, even if our overall views otherwise align perfectly. There are still people to this day who debate just how important Rin was to Shirou's character arc (I fall firmly in the "just as if not moreso important than Archer"). And Answer is quite different between anime and VN, as are other important scenes, like one of my favourites in both anime and VN, Your Distortion, about which I could write at length about how similar yet different they are. For example, if I were to claim that the most important piece of dialogue for Archer is him telling Rin to watch over Shirou so he doesn't become like him, you might call me a waifufag who got brainwashed by the anime... except a ton of VN readers think that as well.

>>230977625
Are you gonna be doing this for the entire show, anon?
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>>230978321
Oh god it's you lol. There are things beyond personal experiences. You're pretty much the ultimate embodiment of what I'm talking about. Here's a hint: I picked that line specifically because it's distinct from everything else Archer ever says, is heavily and explicitly emphasized by the story, and pivotal to the point it's not up for debate.
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>>230978872
lol go on then say it
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>>230974427
vastly inferior letdown compared to zero.
I don't care if the main fate came first, zero was just a vastly better story that delivered on a grail war properly, not teen romance bullshit
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>>230974427
So far up its own ass. Didn't give a fuck by the second half. Sekirei BTFOs.
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>>230974427
not even canon & rhinomemes

Still a necessary view before the real deal, HF
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>>230980465
Incredible--even with a rhino shooped onto her face, Rin STILL manages to be more attractive than Sakura... how does she do it, bros?
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>>230974494
Most of Zero is Gil drinking wine with Kirei and laughing HAHAHAHAHA and long boring dialogues. The only memorable ep is the last one. How is it any good?
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>>230981009
Those are the best scenes though. (I prefer UBW and FSN in general though.)
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>>230981339
Yeah, those are the only good ones.
But the rest of the story was shit, it's known it's worshipped because Urobochi wrote the novel, but it had unlikable faggots like Waver.
>I prefer UBW and FSN in general though.
Same.
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>>230976299
it would unironically be better, fate is already pretty much live action drama animated, that's what the writing feels like
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>>230981570
It's extremely hilarious how a ton of Zerofags talk about how much they love Zero since it has mature adult characters but also say the comedic duo are their favourite of them all.

>>230981643
...what?
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>>230982012
>mature adult characters
The adults are anything but mature though
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>>230976299
I'd say it's probably the only battle anime that could.
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>>230980705
Nicholas Cage as Kerry is kinda pushing it, though.
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>>230980705
If we're casting a white guy as kerry go for keanu
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>>230982500
>Nicholas Cage as Kerry is kinda pushing it,
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>>230974427
It's fun in the first half but the dialog becomes absolutely insufferable by the end.
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>>230982097
Aside from Kirei? Definitely. I was just talking about how Zerofags talk about the show.

>>230982251
Not really, no. Maybe if it was being made in the late Bush-early Obama era sure, but right now they'll shove a bunch of insufferable progressive politics like they did in Cowboy Bebop (Rin will be black but Sakura will be Asian--they'll still be sisters cause race isn't real).
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>>230982012
Yeah, you're right.
Take off either Gil, Saber or Kirei and Zero is shit. You can't make it likable without them.
Zerofags fill their mouths about "mature adult characters" just to avoid looking like memefags who forced themselves to like a shit spin-off overrated by the writer.
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>>230982777
They could even make a straight character LGBT in the potential live-action series.
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>>230982915
Kirei and Shirou will be gay for each other because of the "I like Kotomine Kirei" line--making Catholics gay is a mainstay Hollywood move, even Tropic Thunder made fun of it.

>>230982902
Kayneth is cool, but that's because of the way he gets killed by Kerry.
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Hmmm...
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>>230982915
they could totally make Maiya a guy and add sexual tension between kirei and Kiritsugu for zero
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>>230983098
Can't make Maiya a guy.
She had a rape baby.
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>>230974427
>vlcsnap
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>>230983182
Yes.
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>>230983032
You intend on marathoning it?

>>230983098
Considering they expanded how much Vicious appears in the Cowboy Bebop adaptation, I'd say they'd have em meet before the big fight--even if it makes no thematic sense.
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>>230983434
I could get behind another meeting between them during some kind of ceasefire
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>>230983434
>You intend on marathoning it?
Kinda. I'm done for the day, though. I'm watching Fate/Zero and UBW at the same time. I'm thinking in adding another series now that December is coming.
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>>230983495
>UBW and Zero at the same time
I'm not sure I've heard of a worse watch order, but I'm also curious af. Keep us posted on your opinions.
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>>230983495
>I'm watching Fate/Zero and UBW at the same time.
>>vlcsnap
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>>230983523
Don't worry. I've read the visual novel already, and I've watched UfoBW in the past.
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>>230974427
It looks like they draw her ass first and then the skirt later.
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>>230983581
You are still retarded as fuck.
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>>230983606
I know.
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>>230983470
Nah, I think them meeting earlier would just make the eventual meeting less impactful.

>>230983495
>>230983523
>>230983581
>>230983606
>>230983617
lmao based retard anon. You seen the Zero anime (or read the LN) before though? Why'd you choose to watch em like that?

>>230983605
Wouldn't want it any other way.
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>>230983766
>You seen the Zero anime (or read the LN) before though?
No.
>Why'd you choose to watch em like that?
Because I just felt like it.
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>>230983877
Thoughts so far? Wanna hear a comparison between the two desu. This is simultaneously so retarded and brilliant I might do it myself honestly.
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>>230983914
>Thoughts so far? Wanna hear a comparison between the two desu.
I have nothing interesting to say. I like the contrast between Waver and Rin regarding impulsive use of command spells.
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>>230974427
It's ok. Enjoyable but not great. I really want Rin to sit on my face though.
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>in the year of our lord, 2021
>vlcsnap
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>>230983987
Rin is definitely vastly more competent than Waver though. Hope to hear more of your thoughts.
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>>230979237
Anon, you could get over your persecution complex and at least guess. It's really interesting.
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>>230985051
"But still... I was not wrong..."

Then again that's not dialogue
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I ____ Rin
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>>230985239
love
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Why didn't Rin have her own sex scene?
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>>230977494
>imagine fucking Rin in her gym outfit

I could see that. She kinda looks like a typical gym thot.
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>>230985468
She did. With CGI dolphins.
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>>230975119
shes a gorilla who does pushups before going to bed
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I think you can tell a fanbase grew too arrogant when they call any disagreements over the material as a "misunderstanding". It's a phenomena, that spread in this fandom badly. I'm saying this bcz in civilized discussion we call these disagreements. If this is not civilized, then we may call fate an hxh-lite fandom at this point.
Like, I can make CLEARLY FACTUAL references to a thing or another in the source, like "archer said x" that may not even be plotholes (you could say it was meant to be dramatic irony idk) and someone will go (I assume that's their thought proccess) "they must think it's a plothole, fate has no plotholes!" -> "must be misunderstanding" and I've heard similar things from others. is fate threads really just bait?
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>>230985468
She really didn't need one? The RN replacement coupled with the great direction and the inclusion of Ocean of Memories make for a VASTLY better scene. It's the lack of a kiss that's the real issue, but even then it doesn't bother me that much since the final scene is perfection.

Plus if you pay attention at the zoom out at the end when the lights shut off, their apartment is the only one still lit up, showing they're staying up for some... late night activities.
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>>230974427
brilliantly animated but i detest pretty much every banal character without being able to remember a single one of their names
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>>230985706
>without being able to remember a single one of their names
That's impossible if you frequent /a/
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>>230974427
I tried to rewatch it a few months ago and I just can't. After having played the VN, the anime adaptations don't even come close.
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>>230985541
>She kinda looks like a typical gym thot.
Yes and that's a good thing
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>>230974427
It's pretty awful. Too many unnecessary changes compared to the source material that fuck the pacing and create plotholes such as Gil witnessing UBW before he's meant to be surprised by it, not to mention Archer being able to use it at all in the state he was in. A shame because the animation and musical talent are incredible.

Doesn't help that they changed most inner monologue that they HAD to include to spoken, so you have shit like characters standing around or stalling in the middle of a fight while Shirou talks to himself out loud for 5 minutes. Makes the action sequences feel strange compared to how, say, Zero approached it direction-wise.

Heaven's Feel was handled better in some areas but the third movie is such complete dogshit in nearly every way that the entire trilogy becomes a wash by connection.
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>>230985795
you got me i remember the black haired bitch and king arthur (a lady who the text persists on calling a king, which just speaks to the author's fathomless retardation) because I saw her in a doujin one time that was more memorable--not to mention better written--than the source text
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>>230985795
I just come here to shit on things other people like, same as 80% of this board
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>>230979237
>>230985211
That's actually a reasonable choice, but unfortunately it's only relevant to Unlimited Blade Works.

>You are not one who fights, but nothing more than one who creates. Don't think about excess things. There is only one thing you can do. Master that one thing. Do not forget. What you should always be visualizing is yourself at your most powerful. You do not need outside enemies. The one you have to fight is none other than your own image.
This is unique because it's tautological, impersonal advice without being bound by the setting or conversation. Archer speaks directly to both Shirou and the reader of the broadest and most encompassing theme of the story. This specific statement is frequently directly/indirectly referenced throughout the rest of the VN mainly by Shirou, but other characters as well, and acts as the through line of the whole narrative in its development and varied applications.
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>>230986037
Most of the choices vis a vis the inner monologues were made by Nasu himself

>>230986178
All you've said is perfectly fine, but I really do not see how that is INDISPUTABLY Archer's most important line or even intended to be one, rather than something that you have assigned meaning to based on your own interpretation. Not saying that you have completely invented the meaning there or something, but unless you walk up to Nasu and ask him if he really meant it to be seen in such a definitive all important light as Archer's single most defining line, then it's pointless to say that just because someone doesn't have the same appreciation for it as you do they have been incorrigibly mindfucked by UfoBW, especially since this is the first time I've seen anyone be this at awe by it, even amongst the people who shit hardest on the anime. Personally I find Shirou handing Rin back the pendant the single most important thing he does as it represents a massive shift in the character's mindset--he acknowledges that Rin saved his life and he is grateful for it. He sees that the girl he likes values his life and begins the first step toward seeing the value in it on his own. Granted I might be over-assigning importance to this based on my liking of the relationship. That Nasu intended the scene to be read this way is, to me, incredibly obvious. This isn't something you can ascribe to my being introduced through the series by the adaptation either as it'd be ridiculous to say that the many who started with the VN and hold the same or similar views were somehow duped by Miura before he even started working on UBW.
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>>230974427
It’s not as self-contained as it could be since you need to have experienced the Fate route in one way or another to get the most out of it. It’s a problem that leaks into the HF movie trilogy, too. Good show all around though. I just wish there was a more accessible vector to show to potential new fans.
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>>230986729
I was very particular with my words and already addressed all but one of your concerns accordingly. Actually try reading (read carefully, because you've also put words in my mouth) and if there's still something that doesn't make sense to you, inquire specifically.

As for the one remaining, the problem is beyond Miura and applies to ufotable as a studio, and a pattern of people who start out of order overwhelmingly having a disheveled foundation does not somehow exclude people who start with the VN missing something either. That's ridiculously fallacious. Miura and Sudou's interviews are a clear testament to this.
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>>230988261
>because you've also put words in my mouth
Where, precisely?

>As for the one remaining, the problem is beyond Miura and applies to ufotable as a studio, and a pattern of people who start out of order overwhelmingly having a disheveled foundation does not somehow exclude people who start with the VN missing something either.
This would be fine in some abstract sense were it not for the fact that I've heard some of the absolutely worst takes on FSN precisely from VN readers. In fact, the worst takes by VN readers have far exceeded those of "anime-onlies" in my estimation since the latter is as a general rule not as passionate about the franchise as the former, who read interviews, regularly engage in discussions, etc. and yet despite having vastly more info to work with arrive at conclusions which absolutely nonsensical. The Platonic VN reader has been put on a pedestal yet most have failed to be as half as perceptive and knowledgable as he is supposed to be.

>Miura and Sudou's interviews are a clear testament to this.
How so?
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>>230974494
Is Zero written by a different author? UBW so far feels like the characters are lifeless and have zero personality. All the servants are boring and Saber seems completely doll like compared to how she was in zero.
Rin and Archer are the only ones that are somewhat interesting and enjoyable to watch. Everyone else bland, bland, bland.
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>>230989341
>Is Zero written by a different author?
Yeah, Gen Urobuchi.
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>>230985986
>being a thot
>good thing

I suppose if you're into sluts.
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>>230984542
The real redpill is that Iskandar was tard wrangling Waver the whole time.
He only felt confident in the end that Waver could handle himself, which is why he still faced down Gilgamesh.
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>>230989419
>looks like
>Being
Please learn to read anon-kun
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>>230988974
Try cross-examining diction and it will pop out to you if you're capable of seeing outside your own head. If so, try looking somewhere other than the window of an autistic newfag and you'll figure out the rest eventually.
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>>230974427
Rin=cute
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>>230986729
It doesn't matter who made the changes, shit is bad either way.
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>>230974427
>What do you think about said anime series?
It's pretty enjoyable, would be way better if the protagonist wasn't the most bland fucking character to ever be written though. Literally every single other character is more interesting than him, yet for some godforsaken reason he was made the MC. God I hate nips and their shitty bland self-insert MCs.
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>>230991260
Bait is a bit too obvious my dude.
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Not even done.
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>>230976881
No way, is the text edited?
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Which fits better, original or remix music in the VN?
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>>230991531
No.
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>>230991560
Original IMO.
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My little eldritch abomination can't be this cute!
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>>230974427
I think there's no reason to rewatch that in particular.
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>>230993528
Okay.
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>>230974427
the truth is that archer are rhino is ultimately irrelevant
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>>230977494
There is so little art of her in her workout gear, it's fucking criminal.
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I want to eternally suffer as a counter guardian!
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>>230974427
sex with rin
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>>230989793
Doesn't Waver go on to become a chad due to Iskandar's influence?
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>>230974427
It's alright but it loses a lot of depth that being said I am not even sure how to include that depth without making the viewing experience a slog deen ubw ost was better
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>>230998991
Looks uncomfortable.. Imagine the smell
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>>230998991
Let me guess, that's a man?
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The girls are cute and the fights are cool, so I like it.
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>>230974427

I watched the UBW route and wanted a redone Fate route more than ever. I liked the Rin romance though.
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>>230974427
>Rhinocuck keeps necrobumping his thread
lmao
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>>230974427
Zero was very entertaining
the rest are eh and pretty much all equal except for the original FSN from like 2006 which is literally just a romcom
Illya is something else entirely
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>>230999456

Waver goes on to becomes= Lord El-Melloi II but is more or less blackmailed into it. Waver encounters Iskander in a dream later on, Iskander asks Waver to join him in Throne land but Waver says he still has much to do before then. Lord El-Melloi II of the Clock Tower takes on an apprentice called Gray who looks a lot like Artura Saber but with silver-grey hair.
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>>231001089
By this do you mean that you liked Fate route way more so you want to see it with similar animation, or do you mean that UBW made you appreciate Fate route more?
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>>230974427
>Ufotable's Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works
>(2014-2015)
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>>230990714
I fail to see the purpose in further engaging with you if you persist in feigning being so much far above your interlocutors.

>>231001113
"No don't bump this thread you're gonna ruin my fantasy of Rin and UBW being unpopular"

>>231001296
I presume he means he liked how Ufo tackled UBW and wants to see Fate done by them as well
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>>231001233
Huh. . .that seems cool I guess.
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>>230989341
>UBW so far feels like the characters are lifeless and have zero personality.
F/SN routes don't translate well to anime. So much of what gives each character life are the downtime parts that very few anime viewers would be down to watch in animated form.
If you actually want to experience F/SN read the VN. The adaptions just won't cut it and they never will.
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>>230989341
Yes and no. FSN was written by Kinoko Nasu and Zero by Gen Urobuchi. However, most of the ideas in Zero were developed by Nasu and most of the characters were invented by him. Kirei and Kerry are basically all Nasu.
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>>231001575

Waver becomes a legend at strategy video games because of Iskander's influence. Which is kind of cool in some social circles.

Waver is also in Unlimited Blade Works, in the final episode and gives some mage advice to Shirou after arriving in London.
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>>231001784
>Waver becomes a legend at strategy video games because of Iskander's influence. Which is kind of cool in some social circles.
Kek'd.
I still need to watch the UBS anime fully.
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>>231001296

Shirou actually fancies Saber in the Fate route, he just sort of plays around with romancing Rin in UBW, i didn't feel the same intensity. Rin was, at the end of the day, a rival mage raised by Kirei as a pawn to kill mages like Shirou. The romance was nice, but the mage rivalry was like a sword hanging over the couple. (given who Shirou might potentially become later on, i.e. UBW Archer, that's ironic).

i also wanted a redone modern Fate route because ilya could actually live by the end of the route. She doesn't make it in UBW or Heaven's Feel.

And if UFO did the Fate route rework the latest modernization would be awesome.
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>>231002163
The epilogue in episode 25 is the one place where the anime indisputably improves on the VN. Even when I replay it I peep episode 25 before continuing onto HF.
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>>230975119
Sounds like anime only crap.
In the VN if I remember right she's defined as the "school's Madonna" or something like that, which usually means the most feminine and talented girl of a school.
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>>231002345
>The epilogue in episode 25
What happens?
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>>231003145
It shows Shirou and Rin's life in London. I'm surprised you haven't encountered their adult 19 year old designs by now.

>>231003085
She has massive insecurities about her femininity though. The HA sex scene is the most obvious example of this.
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If you watch UBW right after Zero it's so weird how Kirei dies there so fast. While reading VN if character dies without getting any development you know they'll get it in another route but in anime format getting prequel's main villain killed like he's no one significant is pretty bizarre.
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You intend to make another thread to continue your commentary on the rewatch once it hits the bump limit and/or gets archived, OP?
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>>231004842
>You intend to make another thread
Not until some time passes (one day or two). If there is a Fate thread up, I will post in it if I happen to watch the series at that moment.
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>>231003570
>how Kirei dies there so fast
Well, servants are still WAYY stronger that humans, and Lancer is like one of the faster - if not the fastest- servant of that HGW. The fact that he didn't died instantly from a Gae Bolg lunge and took flew seconds finally kicking the bucket was quite a record.
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>>231004937
Looking forward to it then anon
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>>231005677
Okay. I genuinely don't understand why, since I don't provide any meaningful insight or anything.
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>>231005860
Oh yeah but at least it's better than waifu shitflinging
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A bump for my wife
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>>230974427
>Unlimited Blade Works 2014-2015
>2014-2015
Damn, has it been that long?
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>>231007967
Yes.
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>>230974427
sex with rin
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>>231007967
That makes me feel old. I am truly wasting my life in this board.
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Fate route is getting an anime next year.
Who wants to bet his money with me?
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Why is it commonly accepted to watch zero after all the three main titles? I watched UBW and Heaven's feels after zero and zero helped me digest everything so well
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>>231008831
Because that's how it was originally intended. Fate Stay Night is a mystery story in its core where the worldbuilding and families politics is done progressively, step by step through the routes. Zero ruins EVERYTHING of that in a couple of episodes. In the anime that doesn't make much difference since ufo put that into account and didn't put much emphasis on the mystery as the VN did, but honestly, if I had known the truth of everything from the let go, I don't think I would have been able to finish the VN.

But I will admit that starting with Zero for anime only is ok, and might even be the best choice (Not counting starting with the VN of course)
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>>231008831
Because Zero spoils a lot of FSN, not to mention that it sets up a certain expectation for what SN should be like, see all the people whining that Shirou and Rin are "horny teenagers" as opposed to "mature adults". Zero leans more heavily into the battle royale premise while UBW and HF are very much so character studies of Shirou. Sure, Zero is at the end of the day a false battle royale as well, being VERY focused on Kirei and Kerry at the expense of everyone else (this is a good thing) but the fact does remain.

>>231007967
>>231008202
We're closer to the 20th anniversary of FSN than the 10th.

>>231008532
Maybe for the next big anniversary.
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>>231009034
All of them have tasty ones. They would make a good stack, I would say.
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>>230974427
>What do you think about said anime series?
High animation budget like that should be spend on singular blockbuster instead of repetitive franchise.
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For some reason, I thought that Gilgamesh was Kotomine's Servant in Fate/Zero.
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>>231009691
hahaha
why would you think that
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>>231009437
In terms of size to body weight and physique, Rin's is the relatively largest (Sakura may have her beat in absolute size)
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>>231009706
I know that they were talking, drinking wine, and not trying to kill each other. I do not expect that behaviour from enemies in a Holy Grail War.
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>>231009758
There's a lot of enemies drinking together in Zero, actually.
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>>231009691
>>231009758
Let's just say a lot of shit happens in Zero.
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>>231009928
Yeah, the last thing I expected were references to real politicians.
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>>231009999
This line is funnier after Extella Link ngl
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>>231009999
Blessed quads lmao. I remember when I rewatched this a few months ago having totally forgotten about this and I laughed so hard there was spit all over my screen
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Is it mentioned who decided to give Saber a suit? I don't want to know now WHO decided it, I want to know if this is revealed at some point.
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>>231009999
Damn. I don't remember that at all.
>>231010124
Just like I don't remember when Berserkers were actually Berserkers like Darius.
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>>230974427
Could have sworn we did this topic a week or two ago and it turned into the usual waifu wars, my route is better than years, fuck Ufotable, and fuck zerofags stuff these topics usually have.
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There's a lot of American things in this anime.
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>>231010350
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>>231010431
It was less than a week ago actually. It was a "say a good thing about the UBW anime" thread. Plenty of people did so, but a lot just repeated the same old shit. It turned into an argument over how good or not Zero is--or rather whether Kerry is less mature than Shirou or not.

>>231010474
Did you notice the fact Kiritsugu has a laptop in 1994?
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>>231010474
>Watoson
Very American indeed.
>born 1979
>Zero takes place in 1995
They are close to her canonical age, nice.
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It's kind of shocking to see guns not owned by the police in a Japanese setting.

>>231010668
>Did you notice the fact Kiritsugu has a laptop in 1994?
I missed that.
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>>231010789
It's in the scene where he and Iri talk about all the participants in Grail War where he spergs out about Kirei. I'm pretty sure that was in the first or second episode? I might be wrong however, it might be coming up.
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I did not expect this.

>>231010839
Third episode, while Irisviel and Saber are having fun in Fuyuki.
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>>231011131
There's actually a psychologically justifiable reason for him doing that. It sucks for everyone, but it's understandable.
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>>230974427
Rin's ass = good
rest = chuuni nonsense over a stupid moral theory
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>>231011131
It's at least slightly less ludicrous than the titular character from Luc Besson's Anna having a laptop in MOTHERFUCKING 1989, before the fall of the Berlin Wall. That was such a dogshit movie.
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>>231009999 (checked)
Why couldn't we get a series about Iskandar conquering the world in the 90s instead of F/Z?
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>>231012045
I'm sure I saw a laptop last time I was watching it.
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>>231012175
You are right. For some reason, I could not recognize it at first.
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>>231011648
too political
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I don't know if he is being earnest or not. I suppose that Zero will answer that.
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>>231012385
Haven't you watched it already? Sorry for the question, I haven't reead the whole thread
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>>231012574
He's read the VN and watched the adaptations but hasn't seen Zero.

>>231012385
HF already does.
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>>230978321
You love coming up with ridiculous strawmen don't you UFOfag.
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>>231012805
?
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>>231012652
>HF already does.
True, the only thing thing that brings him happiness is the suffering of other people.
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> saber eating a sandwich
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>>231012927
Stop posting threads about the shitty adaptations only you care about. They're irrelevant and terrible

>But look at the cewl graphics and CGI and I love to fuck Rin and her spade face

No I don't want to hear it. I don't want to see another thread about ufotable or their shit for the next month atleast and if I do I'll find your address and hurt you. Do I make myself clear rincuck?
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>>231007960
I love thighhighs
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>>231013065
You seem upset.
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>>231013065
>posts the only slut sluttier that wormslut
Your opinion is irrelevant
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Now that's a flex.
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>>231012950
If there is one thing I think Zero unambiguously succeeds at is add more depth to the rivalry between Shirou and Kirei by contrasting it with the rivalry between Kirei and Kiritsugu
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I just noticed the swastikas here.
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VN > Anime.
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>>231015138
It always kinda bothers me how much closer in height the two look here in comparison to the rest of the show

>>231015177
Something about the execution of the exchange you don't like?
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>>231015226
>Something about the execution of the exchange you don't like?
It was more fun in the VN.
>But you shouldn't say unnecessary things from now on. Stupid comments will only bring you death.
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>>231015284
I think the anime format helps in certain scenes (when Rin forces herself into the Tohsaka household (episode 11 in the anime)) but yeah
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>>231015138
>I want to save everyone! Well... Apart from Jews and blacks

What the fuck Nasu.
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>>231015088
I hated the rivalry between Kirei an Kiritsugu in the anime desu. Maybe it's better in the novels but in the anime it feels forced, they become obsessed with each other after reading each other bio...
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>>231015421
If there's something I miss about the DEEN adaption above anything else, is how they animated Taiga.
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>>231015593
It's basically the same, the anime is a very faithful adaptation for the most part

>>231015581
How did he get away with this...?
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>>231015593
I found it realistic.
A hitman knows that another hitman is a hitman because he's good at his job.
Power =/= danger. They realized they were the most dangerous opponents.
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>>231002195
That's funny.
The reason i find Shirou and Rin's relationship so endearing is because they don't really what to make of each other.
Unlike how he is with Saber, where they both understand each other better than they understand themselves in some instances or with Sakura where Shirou is more or less just internally fighting himself the entire time because his feelings for her are so obvious.
This isn't to shit on the other girls or anything but to me their relationship seems very organic and healthy compared to Saber/Sakura's relationship with him, which is kinda "toxic"(lord knows i hate his fucking word but it's the only one that makes my point come across right in this case), they are toxic for good reasons and everyone learns from it and become better people by the end but my point is that he really didn't need to go through that with Rin.

Rin imo always felt like the only girl that could match him in awkward character quirks but still think totally different from him, which i find cute.
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>>231016360
That's in the case of Kerry, but Kirei's obsession went deeper than that, he had a "I've finally found someone who's like me" complex
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>>231016597
>don't really what to make of each other.
don't really know what to make of each other*
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>>231010546
Iri has good taste. I think Saber's wearing Armani.
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>>231012257
I think they had laptops in '94. They were fucking behemoths, though.
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I'm pooing
t.Rin
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>>231017125
*taking a shit on Sakura

based bump btw
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>>231016676
It depends. The ThinkPad T15g (2020) weighs more or less the same as the Packard Bell Statesman.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packard_Bell_Statesman
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>>231017149
Damn, Rin's upping her game, huh?
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>>231012995
Saber makes me happy.
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>>230974427
I enjoyed it quite a lot, but I liked Zero more
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>>231017149
Anything for my sweet Toilet-chan
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>>231017719
Saber has stinky, protein farts
One too many eggs
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>>230985699
Except they will get torn apart by circumstances they can do nothing about.
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>>231017125
Into my mouth I hope
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>>231018050
Contradicted by everything in-story and statements by Nasu
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>>231018050
Just because they're not pathetically tied at the hip like her sex doll sister doesn't mean they won't work lmao
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I love Rins greasy anal glands, so moist
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>>231018629
>maxresdefault.jpg
You need to go back.
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>>231018770
Oh no, he used google to find an image
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>>231018629
Jesus dude at least use a new pic once in awhile. It would also help hide the fact it's you all the time and hide how obsessed you are, it's just sad. Like are you falseflagging to try and make Sakura haters look bad or something
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I wish to surround myself in Rins potent stink. We would meld together into a sweaty pile of soft flesh. Nothing tastes as sweet as the musky residue from Rins feet after a long day
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>>231018856
Confusing art
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>>231019074
Delicious feet though. I want to be shrunken down and squashed between them
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>>230974427
were rhinokeks always this needy and pathetic?
t. not an oldfag
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>>231020976
Yes.
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>>231021036
Sakurafags will post this and then say "Y-y-you should be happy Rin's role got reduced in the HF movies, R-R-R-Rinfag, Sudou made her less m-m-m-mean!!!"

People like Sakura the least because she has the least interesting design and personality of the three, keep coping with this le ebil Rinfags made everyone hate wormslut omg!!!! nonsense tho
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>>231021542
Anon, this image is legitimately just autistic. I'm amazed you thought posting this was a good idea.
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>>231021235
I find it funny they say that when Rin was always popular in Japan consistently when they read the whole VN with all these scenes. It's clear that Sudou is like all Sakurafags and only caters to himself at the expense of the route.
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>>231021658
I ways knew Kenshin was better than any Fate slut.
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>>231021658
Anon, the pic literally explains it. Rinfags went on an autistic anti-Sakura crusade because she revealed the glaring flaws with Rin as a person that they didn't want to accept. Sakura hatred comes from the denial of of Rinfags.
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>>231021613
High praise from a man who posted rinfagtears.jpg

>>231021658
HF just makes Rin a more compelling character. It's quite revealing that the screencap says Rin was complicit in Sakura's suffering--it's basically uncritically accepting the opinion of Sakura's whose view is being tainted by Angra Mainyu, one that is presented as being the result of unhealthy toxic resentment, a flaw that Sakura as a character has to overcome and the story portrays in a negative light, even if it is understandable considering Sakura's position. The amount of Sakurafags who legitimately think Rin should've died at the end of HF at Sakura's hand is simultaneously hilarious and disturbing.
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>>230974427
>What do you think about said anime series?
Shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHS_SA6bPho
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>>231021896
>it's basically uncritically accepting the opinion of the heroine
Yes.
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>>231021896
They are so self centered, it's so funny.
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>>231021896
Rin was literally supposed to die at the end of her fight with Sakura until Nasu got cold feet about letting his new waifu face any consequences.
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>>231021980
Let me guess, Rin was also trying to steal Shirou from Sakura, right?
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>>231022098
And normal end was the only end originally for Sakura, that's what happens at the planning and production stage
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>>231022232
Hunger is the enemy, Shirou.
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>>231022232
You say that like the normal end is the better end from a writing standpoint
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>>231022098
Nowhere does it say there that Rin was meant to die in that ending. The whole story obviously is heading toward the eventual reconciliation of the Tohsaka sisters. That is its teleological goal. The struggle between Rin the normal teenage girl and Tohsaka the vicious brutal magus is the core of character with the result being self-evidently from the start the human side prevailing over the magus side. How you're this much of a waifufag to not realize this is beyond me. Also >>231022232
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>>231022310
It was because people love to jerk off to how "edgy" and "mature" HF is compared to Fate and UBW and yet ends on a much lighter note compared to them.
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>>231022403
>not knowing about the unused Rin points in HF
Originally, Shirou and Rin were both meant to die, with Rin being able to survive if you got enough Rin points.
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>>230975729
>>230976163
He's complaining about people not thinking Saber is the uberwaifu. He's also mad that they think Shirou is cool on his own.
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>>231022310
You're accusing Nasu of altering his original vision of an ending where Rin dies that got changed because of his favouritism based on wild extrapolations of text that does not support your claims while also ignoring his own statements that the route was written with Normal End in mind. Whether or not Normal End is better than true end is irrelevant here.

>>231022396
Cute! Love this image

>>231022422
There's a ton of thematic issues with Heaven's Feel which are understandable given how much ground is covered. But when you see how much Sakurafags jack off the route purely because Shirou ends up with Sakura and deny the other two as legitimate resolutions to Shirou's distortion it's hard not to be critical of it.
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/230905132/#230914533
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>>231022676
Shirou betrays his original ideals since protecting the ones that he loves will always be ahead of those ideals. It's a simple answer that even he tells Illya in the park scene. He'll be happier protecting Sakura and supporting her. He's always wanted to truly 'save' someone like Kerry saved him on that night in the fire. Why isn't saving Sakura another way for him to fulfill his ideals like Kerry did by saving one over the many? HF covers the theme of good vs evil with Kirei asking Shirou time and time again if he's doing the right thing which is something Shirou struggles to answer. It's also important to know that HF is a falling arc for Shirou where our noble hero falls from grace and abandons his ideals for one person. It's pretty clear that he's falling into darkness as he has sex with Sakura and wants to have more sex with her as he tries to forget that she'll kill more people on that night. His inner monologue even reflects that with calling this sexual act meaningless. Shirou eventually breaks during the knife scene with Sakura wanting to leave so that she doesn't see him fall any further. Despite his fall he still reconstructs himself into his most heroic self during the NLBW scene with the narration telling us that he has a heroic figure and him showing his back to Illya like Archer used to tells us this. He becomes a heroic figure since no one else is able to do so at that moment. He still wants to help and save others, but Sakura will always be his priority. I do agree that I'd like more from the true end with a promise form Shirou to want to help the victims of Angra's killings with Sakura to try and donate or help others as much as he can. Nasu says HF is a story of a sinner trying to find happiness which is what HF succeeds in doing.
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>>231023300
And that's all perfectly fine, but as I explained in that other thread, it's only tackling the issue from a single angle, failing to really look at the issue from other perspective. HF does what it does excellently, but its narrow focus is it's weak spot. I wouldn't go so far as to call it flaw, but there are definitely ways to criticize the themes based on terms not presented to us within the story itself. Again, I have no issue with HF on its own, I just find the attempts by certain people to elevate it to this pedestal (solely because of their preferences for the waifus) that is the true indisputable solution to Shirou's issues.
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>>231023300
>>231023609
The solution to Shirou's issues is to hurry up and become God. There's no real, actual solution. He can satisfy his "ideal" as he understands it at whatever moment in his life he is, but what his trauma let him glimpse is the impossible task ahead of him and the eternal impotence of humanity. Living a happy life is never going to change the core of his character, which will never be satisfied
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Disclosure: I've watched Fate UfoBW Episode 5. There was nothing worth writing a post about, in my honest opinion.
Berserker seems to be CGI. I like that.
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>>231024436
Berserker is the best CGI in anime imo. I've never seen any that looks that good.
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>>231023609
well there are many reasons as to why HF is many people's favorites besides the waifus. That's a disingenuous way to critique HF since Kirei and Illya both stand out as fantastic characters in HF. HF is great for using all of the elements of the other routes and incorporating it into HF by completing some of their character arcs like for Illya. It's fine to prefer the other routes, but HF is great for many reasons. It also has its own issues and it isn't perfect.
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>>231024420
You don't really understand his character. He's not someone looking for world peace or anything or to change the world. In UBW he knows that his ideals won't ever come true, but the journey to get there is more important for him. As long as he travels the world and helps others like in the Fate route he'll be content with that life.
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Are the "flowers" supposed to be Lancer and Saber?
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>>231024517
Shirou is simple minded but he always calls bullshit on himself. He has to "travel the world and help people" because he'll never be actually satisfied with the world as it is. The whole point of Shirou as a character is that heroism isn't about kings and legendary weapons, it's about being disatisfied for the right reasons.
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>>231024641
Probably.
Lancer is supposedly almost as handsome as Gilgamesh
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>>231016676
I went full autist over the weapons in zero.
Yes, you could obtain them but it would be difficult and expensive.
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>>231021235
Rin will never be chosen anon, please deal with it already
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I feel bad for Saber. She always attracts weirdos, which are often sexually ambiguous for some reason.
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>>230978321
>This is extremely silly. For one, the bulk of the "issue" with UfoBW was that a ton of people missed obvious (EXTREMELY obvious) cues regarding Shirou's character, from visual storytelling to in-you-face dialogue, and thus completely missed the point about how Shirou's experience in the Fuyuki Fire is the cause of his self-effacing heroics. Asking something like "what's Archer's most important line of dialogue and why?" on the other hand is silly because art is inherently interpretative and subjective to an extent. What you or I may consider the most important bit of dialogue could be entirely different, even if our overall views otherwise align perfectly. There are still people to this day who debate just how important Rin was to Shirou's character arc (I fall firmly in the "just as if not moreso important than Archer"). And Answer is quite different between anime and VN, as are other important scenes, like one of my favourites in both anime and VN, Your Distortion, about which I could write at length about how similar yet different they are. For example, if I were to claim that the most important piece of dialogue for Archer is him telling Rin to watch over Shirou so he doesn't become like him, you might call me a waifufag who got brainwashed by the anime... except a ton of VN readers think that as well.

Why do Fate VN purists hate every Fate anime?
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Why are UBW fans so autistic compared to Fate/HF bros?
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>>231024765
Aren't also Japanese gun laws extremely strict?
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>>231025057
Whats there to be autisitc about. Both routes were shit adaptations
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>>231025114
I doubt he got any of those legally.
Probably easier to sneak them in in 94 though.
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>>231024898
>I feel bad for Saber. She always attracts weirdos, which are often sexually ambiguous for some reason.

Everyone thought Saber was Jeanne, at first.

I'm quite sure that's why Type Moon and Urobuchi used it as a plot point in Zero
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>>231008831
>Why is it commonly accepted to watch zero after all the three main titles? I watched UBW and Heaven's feels after zero and zero helped me digest everything so well

To adapt a prequel that is so heavily tied to the original (to the point that it was written to tie perfectly with it) without reading the original says a lot. Hell Urobuchi doesn't want the Fate/Zero LN being released in english if Fate/stay night is not realeased it first.

Release order is best
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>>231024462
Basically the only CGI that could compare is other Fate material so yeah. I gotta say Kizumonogatari has excellent CGI environments.
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>>231017238
Yeah, but Lenovo is one of the least modernized laptop manufacturers on the market.
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>>231025028
Because almost all of them have been terrible and cut or changed too many things from the source. Pretty simple.
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I don't see what's the issue behind Fate waifu wars. Even if Sakura is endgame, that won't change that fact that Rin and Saber are better.
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>>230976299
Ha! No
The amount of shit you'd have to exposition dump, on top of the factor King Arthur is box office poison apparently would make for a dull, uninteresting movie
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>>230982915
I mean, canonically Rin is bisexual...
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>>230974427
You know, I can't help but think how hilarious it would be to go from Zero to UBW (assuming you knew absolutely nothing about the games).
> "What, Kirei just fucking dies like that?"
> "...Ilya also dies?"
After you see Kirei as an unstoppable martial arts killer in Zero, it's pretty funny to see him go down from one stab in two routes.
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>>230976299
Japanese live action? Maybe
American live action? Oh hell no, without the china pandering and diversity quotas to worry about you have to remember American audiences can't pay attention to shit and will be so confused about Saber being Arthur and the magic system Fate uses.
Also I'm pretty sure they'd cut Illya since the idea of a psychotic child is considered too taboo for American audiences
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>>231026647
No, the japs would do it wrong, too.
Have you noticed that they always try to copy everything (most notably costumes) 1:1 from anime and always end up looking retarded?
No, it would have to be Hollywood. Some miraculous Hollywood production light on PC stuff, but Hollywood
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>>231026705
>>231026647
>Hollywood Fate/stay night
>Tom Holland as Shiro
>This week's current favorite black chick as Rin
>Elizabeth Olsen as Saber
>Donny Yen as Kirei
>Keanu Reeves as Lancer
>Adam Driver as Gilgamesh
>Ewan McGregor as Lancer
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>>231026802
Maybe you missed my part about miraculous, but if you're trying to make the shitty cast you have to remember it's bad news to whitewash characters these days.
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>>231026802
>>Keanu Reeves as Lancer
I'm down
>Ewan McGregor as Lancer
Did you mean Archer? To which, I'd also be down
>Adam Driver as Gilgamesh
Cringe, would not be down
>Elizabeth Olsen as Saber
You've piqued my interest
But what about Rider, Berserker, and Assassin?
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>>231026936
Berserker would have to be entirely CGI.
Sort of like HF movies, funny enough
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>>231026802
Where is Sakura in all this?
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>>231026802
>Adam Driver as Gilgamesh
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>>231026802
Why are all these white people in a movie?
It's 2021.
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>>231026802
here is your shirou
hes perfect for playing mentally ill protagonists
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>>231001233
>Iskander asks Waver to join him in Throne land but Waver says he still has much to do before then
That was a hallucination on Waver's part. It's been established before that Iskandar wouldn't even remember Waver if he got summoned again.
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>>231024462
God that dodge was so FUCKING cool.
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>>231027063
Sakura won't be name dropped, mentioned, referenced, or appear in the movie proper
Instead, she'll appear in the post credits and be teased as a villain in the sequel
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>>231026802
Who becomes the LGBT token(s)?
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>>231027443
The slutty Greek.
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>>231027493
Excellent. I was afraid you would pick any of the listed characters.
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>>231027443
Saber because she married a woman when she was alive, she'll identify as bisexual but they really mean she's a lesbian
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>>231026553
Okay?...
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Do you think this woman is even remotely aware of what her face created?
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>>230974427
I really dislike how Ufo animates the joints during hectic battles. Really killed the immersion during Shirou vs Archer.
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>>231009437
In the ass department, I would rank them Rin > Sakura >>> Saber.
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>>230974427
Dropped it. It was just bad and I hate Nasu's writing.
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>>230974427
critical lack of mudhens
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>>231029503
French don't watch anime, so no.
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>>231024436
>>231024462
Berserker is CGI but his key poses were based on rough drawings by a 2D animator.
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>>231029537
>I really dislike how Ufo animates the joints during hectic battles
Care to give an example?
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>>231031585
Yes they do
t.baguette
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>>231009034
Lip biting is really hot!
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My fetish
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>>231024490
Oh I love HF. It's only worse than UBW by nail. But there are Sakurafags who like to claim Shirou ends up miserable in UBW so I'm attacking specifically them. HF seems to be the most popular route on /a/ yet despite that Sakura is the least popular heroine.
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>>231033911
That's a better fetish
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>>231034239
I disagree
Luvia should be the dominant one
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>>231033911
That's weaksauce. Try this on for size.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLecSZHFomA
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>>231034449
I don't get it
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>>231034498
>not knowing about the Wonder Bread man
Consider yourself lucky.
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>>231034419
The idea behind it is that little sister punishing older sisters.
It also works because Luvia and Rin are submissive in bed, while Sakura is more sadist.
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>>231029503
She looks kinda creepy. Like a doll
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>>231031585
literally biggest manga market in the world
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>>231034558
I prefer Luvia punishing Rin
Illya punishing Rin is even better but incredibly rare to find.
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>>231034558
Sakura is mostly submissive and Rin can be sadistic as well (see the HA scene)
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>>231034795
Rin and Luvia are the same type of women, that's why one of them punishing the other is a bit boring, they are better going down and forth with neither coming at top.
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>>231034880
I mean, most people can be both but with one side more dominant and for Rin it's the submission side to relief herself from her normal hard personality.
>Sakura is mostly submissive
BB exists for a reason.
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>>231026632
>After you see Kirei as an unstoppable martial arts killer in Zero, it's pretty funny to see him go down from one stab in two routes.
A stab by a strong servant who wield a cursed spear. I would understand the disbelief if he was killed by fucking Shinji Matou, but he got Gae Boolg'd instead.
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>>231026802
>not having Idris Elba playing kirei
Cringe
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>>230974427
Tohsaka's anus...
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>>231034951
I like Luvia being more dominant because of how prideful Rin is. You could argue the same for Rin but we don't see Luvia enough for it to be as enjoyable. I have a fetish for strong women being broken by another strong woman
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>>231024674
Even the other Lancer calls him physically attractive.
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>>230974478
... is shit
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>the Rin hater saves the thread from getting archived
Is this some le brilliant 64D underwater chess move I don't understand?
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>>230974427
Rhinofags still can't deal with her defeat, uh.

you should learn a thing or two about coping from sabercucks
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>>231026394
>Even if Sakura is endgame
She is
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>>231037196
It's called falseflagging
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>>231024898
>which are often sexually ambiguous for some reason
Biphobic Saber when?
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>>231040908
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>>231040460
I know. Sometimes it's people forgetting to sage but it happens. I think it's lame though. Just post some Rin artwork.
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>>231038344
:)
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>>231041271
>emoticons
You need to go back.
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>>230974427
It's an ok battle shonen
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Carnival phantasm is a nice relaxing breather after Fate and Tsukihime
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>>231038566
Anon didn't denied it, speedreader.
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>>231038344
Sabercucks never needed to cope in the first place secondary-kun
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>>231041508
I liked stripper bazett
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>>231041632
Favourite segments were;
The date episodes, Final dead Lancer, Rin bluray trouble, Matou household and all the Tsukihime segments
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>>230974427
It was a chore to finish. Shirou is worst boy and the less he is on screen the better the show. Gilgamesh jobbing job is absolutely disgusting
>muh imitations beat the real thing
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>>231041678
>Matou household
Yeah, that was a good chapter.
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>>230976299
Yes. Its coming on netflix soon. It will be epic, just like death note and cowboy bebop. Everything must be raped with worms
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>>231041800
>It's a little bit sexy with the distorted pixels.
Does Rider find Shinji sexy?
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>>231041846
Yes, unlike Sakura who says no to him and stabs him with Rule Breaker when he tries to do it with her.
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>>231041874
Okay. I did not mention Sakura, though.
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>>231041508
Except they butchered the Tsukihime parts so it's shit
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>>231041846
I think Shinjis nipples are sexy
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>>231042001
You're not slick Sakura fanboy.
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>>231042060
Good to know.
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>>231042108
Take your meds.
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>>231042333
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>>231042652
>tenor (2).gif
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>>231042712
I'm home silly
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>>231041271
>Posting gaijin ranking
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>>231042712
Wow I wonder which route that is from

>>231043391
Won't be any different with the Nips
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>>231043669
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UBW manga is real and coming out soon.
https://twitter.com/MangaMoguraRE/status/1464278371605614607
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>>231043856
>the ubw manga will finish before the strange fake books
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>>231043831
For every poll where Sakura is above Rin there are 20 different with Rin above Sakura. It's okay though anon. It doesn't matter that Sakura is the least liked of the heroines, she's still quite popular. You don't have to cope so hard.

>>231043856
Nice. I like some things better in VN and others in the anime so I hope the author has the good sense to mix and match from both for the optimal experience, but I doubt even if he does he'll get it how I personally like it. Wonder if he'll stick with the original Nasu script for the epilogue.
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>>231043856
Based
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>>231043975
>the ubw manga will end with a connection to strange fake, completely mindfucking all timeline discussion
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Did the anon or the mods delete this?: https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/230974427/#231044092

>>231043975
>>231044170
People keep saying it's good but I don't know if I should start it due to how long it takes for it to come out
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>>231034558
>Luvia is submissive in bed

Proof?
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>>231044066
>Ignoring the true top 1
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>>231044629
Strange Fake is bad. Probably onne of the worst Fate spin offs
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>>231044066
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>>231042108
Sakura isn't from Tsukihime, retard
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>>230974427
I want to impregnate Rin, that is all.
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>>231047936
Nice. 1 heterosexual male + 2 bisexual girls is literally the ideal relationship.
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>>231047134
There's a Sakura thread up right now anon. Very few people are posting on it. Is this all Sakurafags are? A bunch of resentful manchildren who attack the other waifus and whine how oppressed they are and how they can't have nice threads but never actually praise their waifu is a Saber or Rinbro isn't there to get annoyed by it? You live a very sad life online.
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>>231048889
>t. >>231043253
That's a BB thread, by the way.
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Who is canon wife?
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>>231049236
Shinji.
Mitsuzuri.
Kirei.
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>>231049236
>canon
All of them are canon.
Endgame? Depends on Nasu's mood.
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>>231048984
Oh no... a single post shitting on her, what a tragedy! Grow a spine
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>>231049765
Make that two: >>231042323

And that's not mentioning how the OP pic is an obvious falseflag.
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>>231049820
Grow up Sakurafag, you'll be happier if you don't fight imaginary battles everyday in your head
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>>231050015
>t. the schizo randomly screeching at Sakura unprovokedly in /tmg/ every single thread
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>>231048889
I'm a Sakurafag but I also love Rin and Saber. I also can't stand the canonwife faggotry
I'm glad this thread is still up and has stayed comfy for the most part
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>>231050067
Like I said stop seeing bad guys everywhere and smile instead
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>>231049820
Yes I bumped the thread because I felt bad the first Sakura thread in a while that wasn't made to bait Saber and Rinfags with canonwife posting was doing poorly.

And the dude clearly saw a BB pic and thought it was Sakura. Did you just sage a motherfuckin Sakura thread lmao???

>>231050082
I love all the three girls too anon. 4chan tends to sadly attract schizos tho.
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>>231050238
perhaps you should follow your own advice
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>>231050504
Is this a sequel to that one specific Rin x Luvia fanfic?
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>>231050504
>>231050627
https://pastebin.com/JNrEh6fF
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>>231050402
Anon take a seat and have some tea you'll live longer.
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I've watched Fate UfoBW Episode 6. There is nothing worth writing a post about, in my honest opinion.
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>>231051052
Rinfags...
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This part made me laugh.
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>...Maybe I'm still conscious because of the sword he's holding.
>The white shortsword.
>The plain swords are captivating my eyes, and they are stopping me from closing them.
In the anime this part became quite subtle IMO.
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I always found the Ryuudou Temple section of UBW the least compelling part. Don't know why, it just doesn't enthrall me like the rest does.
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I believe you don't actually like fate if you haven't read the vn
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>>231054067
tell that to all the FGO players.
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>>230976299
Only as a completely separate grail war with a completely new cast of masters and servants.
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>>231055499
This would have to be it.
Try to capture some of the same energy as one of the others, but nothing more.
Maybe one of the servants is a cameo like Gilles or some nonsense AT MOST.
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I only care about Emiyacest.
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>>230974487
I don't remember her pooping
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>>231055667
They don't swing that way.
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>>230985447
Fate Shirou best Shirou
Fate Route best Route
CMV
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Hmmm...
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I like how she acts about Shirou learning from Archer.
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>>231058007
The REAL reason Ufotable sucks
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>>231015177
Why do the designs look so bad compared to DEEN
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>gets rejected by both Tohsaka (twice, for different reasons) and Emiya
Nice.
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>>231058965
How could I know?
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>>231059032
Honestly despite me loving episode 8 I really dislike how they cut out most of the bonding Rin and Shirou have here in the VN. Even when I was first watching it and had no VN context I was disappointed we had no opportunity to really see them interact casually when this was a perfect opportunity. I'd grown really invested in it by that time and felt like I was being robbed. I really like how their relationship advances in episode 11 so it doesn't bother me too much but still.
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>>231058253
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Based Jehovah's Witness.
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And he chose the second least subtle of all.
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>>230974427
>necrobumping his own thread for 3 days straight
lmao rhinocucks can't fall any lower
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Poor Issei.
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fucking the shit out of rin
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An interesting change from the visual novel. I don't know if she felt repulsion or was just shocked.
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>>231062917
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>>231058965
They followed Takeuchi's newe style, and Rin's character designer put his own spin on the designs. Rin looks more like the other characters in the episode where Saber fights Berserker since the animation supervisor for the episode didn't follow the design sheet.
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got a question about the f/z LN
is it worth a read?
it's been years since I watched the anime and was considering on rewatching or just reading butcher's LN
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Fate is my favourite VN, currently rereading it now actually but I've never seen the anime. Are they good adaptions?
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>>231063973
Zero is a good anime.
UBW is okay, but bear in mind only so much can be animated since so much of FSN takes place inside Shirou's head.
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>>231041604
Sabercucks unable to cope with the truth are becoming the majority as of late
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>>231064392
Damn, Gil is hot.
It pains me that he's such an asshole.
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I'm going to stick my wang in tohsakas prideful mouth
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>>231063973
All of them pissed me off. HF movie 3 the most.
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>>231063973
I like them, they have been enjoyable so far and the slick production values make them memorable. Heaven's Feel is one of the most lavish Type Moon adaptations to date.
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>>231064784
>All of them pissed me off. HF movie 3 the most.

Why?
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>>231041604
>>231064392
Gilgamesh's opinion on routefags.
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>>231064590
Play fgo Babylonia or Extra CCC.
I really liked him after that.
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>>231065869
I've played Extra CCC.
It just pains me that, canonically, he's uncapable of showing affection. Nasu gave him everything, yet a crucial flaw (and I guess it was from preventing him taking away MC's pouplarity and waifu in FSN).
I love Gil, I really do. It's my fav, anon, but I have to accept he's a canon asshole.
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>>231066143
He never knew affection before Enkidu, and his Archer form is based on his more famous Golden Age, his youth as the collector tyrant.
So even though he has the memories from his later Golden Age, too, his mindset is more like young Gilgamesh.
It's why he's so much more likeable in Babylonia and Extra, he's not forced into the Archer container.
Honestly he's really likeable in SF, too. But that might be because having Enkidu also summoned probably changed him to his second Golden Age, his adventures with his best friend
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>>231065869
>Play fgo
Kill yourself gachanigger
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>>231066277
You don't have to play it, you can watch the anime instead. Thy did Gil justice there.
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>>231025028
>Why do Fate VN purists hate every Fate anime?
Because Fate, unlike a lot of other VN, actually does a lot with the VN medium in order to tell the story. Each of the routes builds upon the previous routes in terms of understanding Shirou, and even the bad ends are frequently used to reinforce aspects of Shirou's character and showcase some of the possible breaking points. All of the anime suffer from trying to carve out a third of the VN, cut a bunch of stuff the keep the runtime tolerable, and then try to crowbar the fragments of a third of the whole they have left into a cohesive story. You end up looking at the mangled mess that resulted and comparing it to the original.

What they should have done/do is make a brand new anime-only fourth route, and tell their own story. That way, even though it will inevitably have warts and flaws, people won't immediately just find it a pale imitation of the original. Maybe do a Taiga/Illya route that focuses on Shirou's family issues, or do something that focuses on Issei and the other minor school characters.
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>>231064392
Secondary’s unable to cope that the truth have been around forever. Let it go anon, let it go. (The fact they reveal a LE manga for the anniversary of Typemoon should tell you everything you need to know)
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>tfw Hollow Ataraxia is the canon timeline
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>>231065106
He's a Rinfag upset that Sakura got treated well.
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>>231065106
not that anon but like >>231064035 said you can only include so much story although movie 3 is especially egregious considering how the culmination is handled. That being said the movies flow reasonably well and are filled with sakuga so you'll arguably only be mad as a primary.
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>>230984542
competent Rin used the first command spell LUL
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>>230982902
remove the main characters and Zero will be crap. how unexpected (NO)
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>>231035256
Mods too busy jerking off again?
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why are rhinokeks so delusional?
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>>231066842
FSN and FHA are the only Fate canon
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>>231016676
Not really. My dad had a Dell Latitude in 1994 that was only about an inch thick. Years later I would carry it around as a kid - the thing still worked. Cost about $5k though.
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>>231070121
Too many laxatives
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>>231068914
They gave up.
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>>231070135
Type Moon is putting more time and effort into these way more than they did for fsn. And do you know that half of FHA isn't even written by Nasu? Why are giving it a pass?
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>>231063973
UBW and HF are different beasts. UBW sticks VERY closely to the events in the VN. Some minor changes here and there but for the most part it's a shot for shot recreation of the VN route. The biggest difference is the omission of Shirou's monologues, for the most part. The anime, per Nasu's own wish, uses facial expression, symbolic imagery and dialogue to convey his inner state and character. Your millage on how well it succeeds at getting across his character may vary. HF on the other is much less faithful to the VN and has MAJOR alterations. It focuses significantly on Sakura at the expense of Rin, Kirei and Illya, changes the sequence of events in the story for various reasons, etc. They have to be judges separately. Personally I love UBW, but HF not so much.

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>>231071534
>It focuses significantly on Sakura at the expense of Rin, Kirei and Illya
So it does its job better than the VN.
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>>231035256
Are you in every Rin thread?
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>>231071558
No because part of what makes HF great is the focus on Kirei and Illya (and Sakura). Without it the climax feels weaker.
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>>231071558
It changes the themes and focus of the story to the point that ruins it for most fans unless you are a Sakura shipper.
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>>231071558
HF is the "most romantic" of the three routes, ie. the one with the explicit and fast-moving romance of all. Saber and especially Rin's romances in comparison are way more subtle and understated. Despite this, some Sakurafags still have this massive insecurity around Illya, Kirei and even Rin's role in HF (okay, the insecurity surrounding Rin is perhaps the most deserved of all). It's extremely strange too when you consider how far less Rinfags tend to be about Archer, despite the fact that people routinely call UBW the Archer/Shirou route and underestimate Rin's role in Shirou's character development. I myself have never seen a Rinfag argue for reducing Archer's role in UBW like I have seen Sakurafags praising the shafting of Kirei and Illya. Very bizarre.
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>>231071780
They are so self centered and self insert as the white knight.
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>>231071658
>ruins it for most fans
Funny, the overall positive reception such as the sales proves otherwise. Turns out the complainers are just a vocal minority.
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>>231071658
I'm not a shipper and I appreciated the Sakura focus in the movies. The original 20 minus flashback in the first movie was brilliant in particular. A few more minutes dedicated to Kirei and Illlya's grail nonsense might've been helpful for anime-onlies though, especially with regards to explaining the climax and epilogue.
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>>231071880
80% of people praise the movies for the fight scenes. They clearly didn't read the VN or they are fgo players who care for servants fights.
Commercial success isn't a proof of its quality as an adaptation, but that it's a successful action/romance flick where it was way better in the VN.
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>>231071985
Nothing wrong with the original scenes, but they aren't worth compared to what is cut imo.
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>>231071780
I always found the Fate Route to be the route that focused on the romance the moat . It was explicit, but it definitely wasn’t fast paced (I liked that about it)
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>>231072244
In UBW and HF the romances primarily serve as catalysts for Shirou's character development. You may find great on their own (and I do, especially the one with Rin) but ultimately it's all about how Rin and Sakura change Shirou. The romance in Fate is one which does not share its route with other characters' arc and thematic entanglements with Shirou's arcs (Archer in UBW, Illya and Kirei in HF) and also serves primarily to effect Saber's development (though Shirou also changes of course). In that sense, it is the most romantic. But the romance with Sakura is still the most in your face of em all.

>>231071985
They didn't include the scene where Shirou remembers Sakura during his fight with Kirei.

>>231071880
Sakuraniggers will say this but then do mental gymnastics to pretend UBW wasn't a massive success and the biggest release of its year. Does Rin make you that butthurt?
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>>231072614
I always found that the Saber romance was the most thematically rich, as Saber and Shirou share those numerous parallels. The romance was a driving force for the characters of Saber and Shirou, rather then the plot (which you said and I think that's a good thing). I guess that's where I came from where I said that I found the Fate Route was most romance orientated, since it's like the primary focus of the route.

I feel like Sakura's had to be in your face, since it needs to be established for the rest of HF to take place.
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>this amount of samefagging
holy cringe
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>>230981009
Well for one, even with all the wine drinking and talking, it's not as dragged out and snail paced as other Fate stuff. Also it was sort of funny having Kerry as an MC. He was basically made to shit on anime clichés
>Huge building with floors and floors of magic traps. Whoever wants in will have to have to do a ton of anime fights or whatever to get to me!
>Kiritsugu bombs the whole building
>Ryuunosuke keeps prattling on in a bridge completely unguarded. All this magic shit is worthless. Why can't some dude just pick a sniper rifle and blow his head off?
>Kiritsugu does just that.
Sure, he was edgy but it was at the very least refreshing.
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>>231072925
"People aren't licking Sakura's cunt clean? Must be le samefags"

Can't believe people like Rin Tohsaka, that extremely popular character!

>>231072935
>it was sort of funny having Kerry as an MC. He was basically made to shit on anime clichés
He wasn't though. His characterizations was already established in the FSN VN. He was deliberately created as the reality of what Shirou's ideal of a superhero would look like in practice. If anyone was created to shit on anime cliches, it was Shirou, as Nasu basically took your basic Platonic ideal of a chuuni shounen protagonist and made his devotion to saving everyone be the result of mental trauma and survivor's guilt.

Kerry is great though.
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Remember for HF to happen, she needs to become a villain
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>>231073619
>she needs to become a villain
This really was unnecessary. Nasu should have just killed her instead of having the terrible Salter around who wasn't impactful for anything until Shirou killing her which is only good for meta reason, and SLH which is still bad ending.
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>>231072925
>cringe
>>>/v/
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Asuka Langley Sohryu of Tokyo-3, Japan shall henceforth be known as SARAH SCHINDLER.
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>>230976299
Only Prisma Illya would work
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>>230976299
No.
They will make Archer black nigger, and will turn Rin and Sakura into bisexual.
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What a retard.
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>>231075424
>will turn Rin and Sakura into bisexual.
Rin is bisexual though
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>>231075424
>turning a Fate character bisexual
Anon, I...
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>>231075424
>They will make Archer black nigger
Typemoon already did it by themselves.
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How common were flat-panel displays in Japan in 1994?
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I hate that I know how this will end.
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"Right wing" in the political sense?
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>>231078306
More like "too focussed on the traditions to be able to innovate/find the truth."
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>>231079293
Thanks.
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I hate hypocrites.
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>>231072925
rhinokeks have never been very bright by definition
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Well, it was a decent thread while it lasted.



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