What killed the hype?
SINCE YOU LOOKED AT ME
How long will it take for non-copyright subs for the whole lot? I'll probably wait a a little longer and start them on my birthday but it'd be nice if they didn't have stupid copyrighted names.
>>230962104Are you saying you're not excited for Flaccid Pancake?
Nigger Pucci is cringe. 3 stands through the part 6 even though every stand user can only have 1. Rushed ending. Part 6 is trash.
>>230962140Stand rules are meant to be broken
>>230962140>even though every stand user can only have 1.Not true since part 4.
>>230962134I'll live with as I've already read SO but its nice to have accuracy.>>230962271Arguably since 3, as DIO had Hermit Purple and the World though that is more due to the fusion of him and Johnathan, which is how Pucci gains a new stand as he fuses with the green baby.
I'm more excited for the oneshot
>>230962140Pucci's stand evolves and morphs, he never has more than one stand at the same time. Achieving heaven is such a one-of-a-kind powerful event that I think it's fitting for that to happen.
So, I don't get it, it's on Netflix and released weekly? Or in batches?
>>230961859>ONE WEEK!...and then it will be immediately forgotten untile the next batch. God I fucking hate zoomers!
>>23096276812 episode batch. We'll be about a month ahead of Japan so there will be a wait for 13-24 anyway, thats not accounting for the inevitable breaks they have too.
>>230962104it took couple hours for part 5 but that was weekly and i have no idea if anyone is doing non-copyright subs now.
>>230962378No, you're not.Stop being a contrarian
>>230961988JoJolion's ending.The mainstream JoJo fans don't want to admit it, but this terrible ending killed their enjoyment of the whole series.
>>230962378What's this about?
>>230963540One day, Jolyne Cujoh witnesses a bizarre scene: a female prisoner tearfully begging another to draw her a picture. What could the woman taking art requests from other prisoners be plotting?!
>>230963530JJL's ending doesn't harm the previous ones, maybe SBR as they share the same universe and there are numerous connections and references to SBR.
>>230963608Sure, but it subconsciously hurt the whole series in the mind of those who thought Araki couldn't fail so badly.
You ARE going to watch one episode per week, aren't you /a/non?
>>230962008>>230962014>>230962041>>230962055>>230962414>>230962537>>230963240Yeah yeah, I get it copyfags I get it.I also want to 7-page muda Shitflixbut what can we do? Money speaks...
>>230961988Honestly I don’t even remember that much hype to begin with. The only hype I remember was when people were waiting for it to get announced and after it was, not much else. I think people just want it out of the way so they can make a part 7 anime
>>230961859Let's hope they will fix this before the release.
>>230964762And also this.
>>230964762>>230964788they are going to fix them for blurays
>>230961859I have already read and enjoyed Stone Ocean, so I will probably not watch its adaption, as I could be reading or watching something new instead, if I have the time.
>>230961988People who think netflix will ruin anime
>>230964788this was already fixed, look at the first trailer
>>230963289Yes I am, you don't get to tell a stranger over the internet what to feel you fucking retard
>>230964944It ruined the hype, not the anime.
>>230965131Why is the "fixed" version in the first trailer, and not the most recent, then?
Man, i cant fucking wait to see the anime-only reactions to Wonderful World. It'll be fucking pure gold. I wonder how much seethe there will be.
>>230961988Netflixt. Haven't watched the jojo
>>230961988Nothing, it's going to be more popular than 3 and 5.
>>230963530Mainstream jojo fans haven't read part 8
>>230961859Cant wait! Even though some of my favorite chapters arent gonna get animated yet such as the maximum prison scene, heavy weather, underworld fight, bohemian rhapsody, c-moon, and MiH; Im still looking forward for the F.F fight and the raining frogs
>>230962140>3 stands through the part 6 even though every stand user can only have 1He always had 1 stand, but made it evolve. Also multiple stands in part 4 allow it's user to have multiple stands (boy 2 man, superfly, cheap trick)
>>230962378You're not tho, you just want to feel special
>>230966874No, you can't have 2 stands, that literally doesn't exist.Boy II Man just allows you to steal parts of a Stand, but we obviously never actually see him steal Rohan's full Stand. Therefore, doesn't count.Superfly doesn't have a user, it's just bound to a tower and somebody has to live inside of it. Toyohiro noted how if he died, the Stand would still exist.Cheap Trick is a parasite Stand. It's similar to Notorious B.I.G. Do you think Giorno has two Stand simply because B.I.G. locked onto him and fucked up his arm?
>>230967136How do you explain Emporio using Weather Report?Burning Down the House might be an unusual Stand, but it's still one.
>>230967896Was BDTH 100% Emporio's stand? I thought it was some Notorious BIG type of stand that lives on after its user dies.
>>230968054Nothing indicates that Burning Down the House isn't 100% Emporio's Stand.
>>230963882I will watch it at whatever pace reaction people will decide to watch it :)
>>230964788what's the error ?
>>230968408One of Whitesnake's fingers overlaps the liquid behind.
>>230961988...Netflix, without a doubt.
I think the one stand per user rule holds if you only consider naturally gained stands. IIRC all cases of someone having multiple stands were because of some external ability like Anubis, Cheap Trick, discs etc. making it possible.
>>230968054In his record card ( in one of the last chapter of Jail House Lock arc)it's written that his mother just had a similar power
>>230968727But it can't be completely related to Burning Down the House, because Whitesnake stole her Stand disc.
>>230961988People say Netflix but it's hard to keep a hype train last for 6+ months, Stone Ocean was announced back in April whereas Golden Wind was announced ~2 months before it aired.
>>230968859But Emporio is her biological son, so he still obtained a similar power. Also, Whitesnake killed her after Emporio was already born (obviously)
>>230969081The fact that he obtained a similar doesn't prove that's it's not 100% his.
I'm excited to see the first five episodes, The Visitor arc is pretty gud
>>230967136>No, you can't have 2 stands, that literally doesn't exist.Jotaro has 'The World' and 'Star Fingers.'
>>230967136DIO used The Passion in part 3
>>230969449jorge joestar will never be canon
>>230969449Joestar's Stand ("The Passion" is from the Jorge Joestar light novel) is the Stand of Jonathan's body. DIO could use it, but it's not his own Stand.That's how I interpret it.
>>230969600>is the Stand of Jonathan's body.What about Hermit Purple?
>>230969748It's not Hermit Purple.Joestar's Stand (that's the name) belongs to Jonathan's body, and is very similar to Joseph's Stand, but it's not the same.
>>230969180I love every arc in Stone Ocean. They're all fun.
>>230971105The chapters from the start to Savage Garden (12 episodes.) Unknown how they'll release the rest
>>230961988No more jojo fridays
>>230961988NetflixStone Ocean is also the part who features a female MC, happens in the USA and has some canonical gay elements. So Netflix producing it sucks ass. They will probably put something weird inside it for the purpose of fucking propaganda.
>>230971402>some canonical gay elementsDuh, it's JoJo.
>>230968331BASED BASED BASEDI personally can't wait for mommies Imon and Abi to start watching it
>>230971402>has some canonical gay elementsWhat are you talking about?
>>230971402>Netflix producing it???
>>230971576What's gay in JoJo?
>>230971576>>230971620There is trannies on the prison, also one character presented as a female on the first place is actually a dude.
>>230971678Why is this an issue? You said it yourself, it happens in America. If anything I'm surprised there aren't more blacks.
>>230971678>There is trannies on the prisonWhere is this told or shown in the manga?>one character presented as a female on the first place is actually a dude.How is it "gay"?Araki changed his mind, and made Anasui a man. That's it.
>>230971402Part 5 had a canonically gay couple and nobody gave a shit.
>>230971942It's not even true.
>>230971942Two even. Sorbet & Gelato and Tiziano & Squalo.
>>230971942>>230971998Funny how part 5 had the only two confirmed gay couples in the entire series that were also coincidently brutally murdered kek
>>230971998There's literally no proof that they're gay.
>>230972102I take it you're an expert on the subject of homosexuality?
>>230971997Three panels.This is extremely minor, and treated as a joke.
>>230972200So? It's still there, you literally can't deny it.
>>230961988>/a/>hypeIncels never wanted this part animated to begin withActual people are hyped
>>230972186No, but you may be an expert at making headcanons.There's one "confirmed" gay character in JoJo. This is a fact.
>>230971942It's the same and you misunderstood my point. I never said it was a problem, I said that im afraid of what netflix will do because there is elements they often use for the sake of propaganda. >>230971997Its not this who especially bother me but it's possible that netflix exaggerate even more.
>>230972278>im afraid of what netflix will doNetflix isn't involved, you fucking retard. They're just publishing it. Do you enjoy being angry at imaginary boogeymen?
>>230972237It's so minor, that it can't be considered a problem, unless the anime change the scene.But I'm sure it won't happen.
>>230971402>So Netflix producing it>They will probably put something weird inside it for the purpose of fucking propaganda.JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, DO YOU FAGGOTS EVEN FUCKING RESEARCH THE TOPICS YOU ARE EVEN TALKING SHIT ABOUT?Netflix is only distributing it, same as Godzilla SP, Dorohedoro, and a dozen other stuff. If you want to get angry go do it to the shows Netflix is ACTUALLY FUCKING PRODUCING it.
>>230972142Scarlet Valentine.That's all.The rest is headcanon.
>>230972413Dude 4channers are mentally ill, some people in /tv/ actually said the show was woke because they saw a woman jojo
>>230972497>mentally ill for believing netflix could influence the production since it's published on the platform.
>>230972036their killers were also brutally murdered so it evens it out
>>230972434Araki confirmed in an interview that Dio is bi and the couples from part 5 are all but confirmed to be gay.
>>230972975>using a pose as an argument
>breederfags whining>when stone ocean is the most heterosexual jojo part
>>230973211Show me the sources.
Call me when this is animated, I want to see the incel meltdown
>>230973555>incelYou mean fujo?
>>230961988>my favourite manga is about to be adapted to anime>i can't wait for the cancerous secondary normal fags to ruin it for everybody with their unfunny cancer memes.
>>230973322In the 2007 Eureka interview with Araki (the author of the franchise), when asked about Dio's sexuality, Araki responded: "...Dio's sort of a composed character that could go either way. He could go with a man or a woman."http://www.seidosha.co.jp/book/index.php?id=2533
>>230973555Imagine melting down over this. I'm glad Araki had the balls to finally kill Jotaro, his timestop had been op in 3 parts by then and having him beat/survive another main villain would have been mega lame
>>230973658>>230973932Jotarofags are incels, glad this piece of shit is dead
>>230973748If you actually read the interview, you'll realise that the interviewer is forcing Araki into this conclusion.This was not his original idea of DIO.
>>230974071watch your mouth
>>230974071I literally not see any relations betweeb liking that character and having a low success with womens. Using this retarded buzzword not prove any point. Saying aspies like Jotaro is a smarter move.
>>230974136this is fucking ridiculous. imagine being anyone and listening to this shit. Araki was very nice to say "haha yeah totally man"
>>230974846Anyway here's an actual tier list that is made by respecting some criteria
>>230974846I wish I had Pearl Jam as a stand.
>>230961988Personally, the trash finale of Part 8
>>230974911>underworld not in S tier>claims to have taste
>>230974963I actually recently reread Underworld and Sky High and I think they should be a tier above
>>230974291>Using this retarded buzzword>Saying aspiesNice use of an imbecile headcanon as a buzzword
>>230974911>Planet Waves and Underworld not S>Anything from GOAT Ocean in D
Part 6 was never good. Netflix will shove it into the ground even more
>>230975982>toonamikek that alone invalidates the entire post
>>230974846This power ranking makes no sense.
>>230975982Giorno is such a shit character that he singlehandedly makes part 5 worse than 6
>>230975982Only a child could have these arguments.
>>230974846>Polpo in Based tierMy man.
>Just one episode a week if you want to watch it weekly so bad
>>230976330>Giorno is such a shit characterWhat!? he is fucking awesome.
>>230961870Tooru will forever be associated with the downfall of JoJo.
>>230976751He's way too OP. Gold Experience keeps gaining new abilities in every fight and Giorno himself is unnaturally smart, experienced and charismatic to the point where he can predict a snake being able to create antibodies for a magic stand virus and he can make Bruno shit and cum on the spot when he says "I have a dream" to him. GER is also a really boring hard counter to KC and the ending of part 5 is terrible because of it.
reminder that jolyne dies a virgin
>>230971998That's a DavidPro addition though. Araki said it's unrelated and Squalo and Tiziano are just doing fashion poses. I personally don't mind either way, but they are still a bunch of random characterless jobbers at the end of the day.
>>230977452>Gold Experience keeps gaining new abilitiesit only gain 1 in the final fight
>>230977452>GER is also a really boring hard counter to KC and the ending of part 5 is terrible because of it.holy shit terrible taste the whole final fight is something I wish more manga did, shit was so unique and original
>>230977452KC is a bad stand to begin with because you can’t counter time with anything besides something like true mans world. Araki learned nothing from The World and wrote himself into a corner again
>>230977787Lol the ending of Part 5 is garbo garbage, especially that whole Silver Chariot Requiem thingPart 6 ending mogs the shit out of it
My hotwife Jolyne
>>230977953>especially that whole Silver Chariot Requiem thingthe level of shit taste.
>>230978243My choleric girlfriend Jolyne
>>230961859I'm starting to think Jolyne may be attractive.
>>230976330>Giorno is such a shit character that he singlehandedly makes part 5 worse than 6That would only be the case if part 5 wasnt the part where most of the spotlight is taken by the most interesting side characters rather instead of the MC being the only focus.
>>230977452>Gold Experience keeps gaining new abilitiesOther than Requiem, every single "new" ability is just a different use of his life creation ability. If anything you should praise him for using his stand in so many creative ways.>he can predict a snake being able to create antibodies for a magic stand virusThat's basic scientific knowledge.>he can make Bruno shit and cum on the spot when he says "I have a dream" to himHe was touched by Giorno letting him live because he realized he wasn't a bad person, and both have the same goal. It's cheesy as fuck sure, but it makes sense for both characters.
>>230976330What is jolyne personality besides father issues? She has no main goals besides to stop pucci kek.
>>230977452>charismaticYeah, about as charismatic as a plank of wood after the first episode.
>>230978751>What is jolyne personality besides father issues? Sex!
>>230978749>every single "new" ability is just a different use of his life creation ability.>Creating organs and specific chunks of meat is suppossed to be the same thing as "imbuing life" into objects>Feeling wether an object has "life energy", whatever the fuck that is>Injecting blood from animals like a surgeon>Putting "turtle cells" into a fucking brooch to turn it into a turtle
>>230978979>"life energy"animal magnetismchi
>>230978979That's correct. Anything else?I'm surprised you find all of that impossible but you're willing to accept stands as a whole, normally autistic people go all the way.
>tfw you find out that Jolyne is a coal burnerHow could this be happening to us bros? I though our waifu was pure
>>230979151>hapa from burgerlandwhat were you expecting?
>>230979129>I'm surprised you find all of that impossible but you're willing to accept stands as a wholeLol what? Stands aren't realistic either, yes. But that doesn't change anything since they are the "initial axiom" of this piece of fiction. A rule, if you will, that was made explicit from the beginning so their existance isn't a problemHowever, just because a piece of fiction makes some impossible things possible that doesn't mean it can make ALL impossible things possible. Stands as a whole is something the audience willingly suspends its disbelief for, Giorno's spontaneous bullshit abilities are not since they aren't coherent with the inital rules
>>230962378Not the same without manly looking women.
>>230979151Now I have a chance.
I want Jolyne to cuck me so bad bros
>>230978979>Creating organs and specific chunks of meat is suppossed to be the same thing as "imbuing life" into objects>Injecting blood from animals like a surgeon>Putting "turtle cells" into a fucking brooch to turn it into a turtlecells = lifei dont see the contradiction.
>>230979384Same. I want her to platinum cuck me.
>golden wind faggots show up and make the whole thread about their shitty part againThe anime adaptation was a mistake
>>230964287what did jewflix do this time, any tldr?
>>230966681Or 1-7 either
>>230961859Jolyne makes me diamonds
>>230979908they are releasing batches of 12 episodes and discussionbros are sad they can't shitpost weekly
>>230961859bingechads we won
>>230961988>no miyuki sawashiro as jolyne>no joji nakata as pucci>animation looks worse than part 4>not part 7
Will the main villains stand look good for once? Thankfully White Snake is in the first four episodes which typically look the best.
>>230986658Killer Queen at least looked good at the end, and Made in Heaven is my favorite design of any of Pucci's Stands anyway, so while I can imagine that being the only one of his Stands that looks good, that's the one I'd want to look good the most.
>>230961988Netflix because no more jojo fridays anymore. But also SO got announced 8 months ago before the release so its hard keep the hype.
So what year is steel ball run getting animated by a rough estimate?
>>230987095As long as they don't fuck up C-Moon
>>230975982>Takes place in fucking Florida. The worst state in America Not while Mississippi still exists.
>>230975982California is worse
>>230985380>no joji nakata as pucciWho voiced Pucci now?
>>230963567..that sounds like a kinda pointless spinoff
>>230988042There's at least some good shit in New Orleans. Why would anyone want to go to Florida?
>>230963882I will watch it one arc/story at a time. With friends.
>>230974136lmao. The interviewer going full fujo and explaining her fan-theory to Araki and him being like "haha yeah" is so very hilarious. Like that Mike Wazowski explaining meme.
What did Araki mean by this?
Netflix isn't producing it.>>230962008 >>230978669>>230971402>>230968536>>230962041>>230962414>>230962537>>>230962014>230963240>>230966581>>230961988
>>230991933trans "men" aren't real men just like how trans "women" are just dudes that cut their cocks.
>>230977452Insanely fucking based Part 5 ending was terrible. giorno had no personality with only 3 different emotions, golden experience requim is beyond broken, and the ending diavolo fight was boring, completely killed the hype for him
>>230961859Bro I just want one clip with Jolyne going STONE FREEEEE, ORAORAORAORA. But the trailers either have the stone free or the ora.
>>230991933i guarantee you araki has done research on trannieshe has so much to say about like every strange subject, im sure when trannies started becoming a thing it peaked his interest
What would part 6 have been like if Josuke came with Jotaro to America?
>>230992906He would’ve died too
>>230992906Josuke would have been a veteran ranged sniper and probably would have been able to take out Manhattan earlier, also preventing Jotaro from getting disc'd. He'd probably use his tracking capabilities a lot, but he would be heavily limited in prison access. Then again, if he followed in his grandpa's footsteps he could've used Speedwagon hax to transfer into a prison guard role which would have been interesting (he'd get ridiculed and called a perv by all the girls constantly though).He'd still get MiH'd because fate says so.
>>230961859people are actually excited for this?
>>230993915>New JoJo OP>More music>Prison shenanigansYou're not?
I really wanted to see more past jojo characters in part I hope we get anime only filler scenes during mih
>>230961988My interest in Jojo was already starting to wane towards the end of part 8 and the way it ended didn't help. I can't even get excited about part 6's anime. I'll probably still watch it though. Or at least check out the first couple of episodes to see if it's not total shit.
>>230962140>every stand user can only have 1You mean like how DIO had Hermit Purple and The World? Or how Polnareff had Anubis and Silver Chariot? Or how Ken Oyanagi had Boy II Man and Heaven's Door? Or how Rohan had Heaven's Door and Cheap Trick? Or how Koichi had Echoes Act I, II, and III? Or how Kira had Killer Queen and Sheer Heart Attack?
>>230996416Koichi never had Echoes Act I, II and III simultaneously.
>>230996448Neither did Pucci
>>230992906Happier ending i suppose Part 6 only had ff as the healer
>yfw brainlets complain about Ermes crying over WeatherThey didn't read the manga right? She is the fucking reason that Pucci got the drop on Weather and realized this. She is crying because she got an ally murdered which is understandable.
I like Anasui. Anasui is funny.
>>230972237as long as it's ridiculed and/or used for laughs, it's fine. it's only when it's treated completely seriously and with kid gloves like in murica it becomes a dumpster fire.
>>230968949i wonder if it would've already been airing this or even previous season if it weren't for shitflix wanting to have the whole thing and then dump it all at once.
>>230997070Huh? I dont remember that
>>230974136>>230974189>>230974229Imagine being Araki and politely listening to this shit.
>>230993915As much as this place seems to hate it being on Netflix, people will then rush to see it as soon as it is out.
>>230997735is it gonna be an episode a week?
>>231001758Do you live under a rock?
>>231001928yes, i avoid jojo threads cause i dont want p8 spoilers
>>231001985Ah, okay. Netflix will release 12 episodes at once.We still don't know the schedule for the others.
>>231001985Does saying it's a piece of shit count as a spoiler?
>>231002068Ty anon>>231002076I enjoyed p3/7 so i guess you could say i have shit taste as well
>>230992906He'd break Jolyne out with no problem however, if Jotaro goes down she'd want to stay and he'd have to try and help from the outside. He wouldn't be too helpful when they break out, he'd certainly be useless with Underworld and Heavy Weather. He'd be very helpful with C-Moon though Pucci can still change gravity around. Josuke would likely be the main target during MiH which the team could capitalize on but I imagine Pucci's keikaku is to change plans at the last moment to get Jotaro or Jolyne. So in short, the first third or so would be very different but the rest not so much.
>>231002068That means waiting three months for each season right?Or is there any chance that they will release a season a week and be done with all in December?
>>231002592We don't know. We're getting 12 episodes right away in December, Japan airs weekly in January. Even if they dump the next 12, it will be months later, April time. Its a stupid move as most will watch at once, SO will be far from finished and then they have to wait for months to get the second third so binge it again. Watch weekly otherwise you're stuck waiting for long stretches.
>>231002647Jojo is a series I actually don't think is bad to watch over long stretches of time. Having read the manga I'm just watching to see how they adapt each battle.Still, seems like a pretty fucked up release schedule when they could just add a new episode each week (or four each month even) and be done with it.
>>231002759I'm guessing that Netflix want to hook people, that they need something to get people watching there opposed to elsewhere. The alternative is people wait for the Japanese release and broadcast and watch via downloads or stream.
Very excited for Stone Ocean
So, until part 5 Jojo was produced by David Production with Warner Bros money (and also the BD's sells for the later episodes). Now it's produced by DP with Warner Bros money and also Netflix money, so the budget should be higher?Am I right?
>>231004121I don't think Netflix produce Stone Ocean.They only publish it.
>>231004557Yes, but I wondered if Netflix's money to publish it went in some way to DP's studios, making them have more funds, or it's just Warner Bros that takes Netflix money and that's all
>>231004654I don't know.
>>230997070Eh I'm pretty sure weather died because they let snailed versace drive
>>230978763That's exactly what I was trying to say, everyone around Giorno acts as if he's extremely charismatic but Araki didn't make him actually charismatic.
>>230961988I'm still hyped but getting so many episodes at once feels lame. Jojo fridays were something to look forward to weekly.
>>230977452>Gold Experience keeps gaining new abilities in every fight>Development and learning potential: A
>>230968949Chapters are DONE but netflix won't release them until they reach a certain amount.
>>231008262>Stone Free dosent get shitDevelopment: A
>>231008695>>Stone Free dosent get shit
>>231008865Jolyne's use of Stone Free makes it the best MC stand. Its just string from her body but the creativity is taken to its limit. Giorno just gets more powers because life energy is too vague. He can turn objects to life, rapidly age living organisms, replace injured body parts, clone new life complete with a stand.
>>231010820This.That's why I was afraid (rightfully so) of S&W's power when I started reading Jojolion"Taking away characteristics from objects" is just way too vague and can lead to several bullshit abilitiesThat's why I was kinda glad Araki retconned it to only bubble manipulation
What are your favourite arcs from Stone Ocean?
>>231011697Limp Bizkit, Underworld and everything from C-Moon to What a Wonderful World
>>231011697Besides the obvious fights at the end, I'd say Underworld is one of my favorites. Versace is more interesting than your typical villain of the week as far as Jojo goes.
>>230991933it just means they allowed a male prisoner into the female prison area, because money probably
>>231011697Planet Waves + Survivor is my favourite, felt very fresh to incorporate stands into a fist fight while they're juiced up on fighting spirit.
>>231001985Part 6 is the last part. Part 7 is a reboot of the franchise.
>>230961859we're still gonna have jojo fridays, right?I mean, you all read the manga already so it's not like anything is gonna be spoiled, right?
>>231013354I'm going to stream one episode per week and post the link here to watch together with /a/nons
>>230967136>Cheap Trick = Notorious BIGbut thats wrong you fucking idiot. Rohan used Heaven's door on CT and it backfired, because CT's ability makes its victim become the user, therefore they become subject to attacks that target CT as if it were their own Stand. BIG is just a sticky lil nigga and the One Stand rule has literally always had loopholes. Case in point, the only time it was ever stated by a character was Avdol being surprised that Silver Chariot had multiple bodies. Therefore in his mind it'd be impossible for fucking Harvest to exist.
>>230974846Reimi is the best waifu
I just read all of jojolion and I like it but I hace some complains:*the head doctor chase was dragged for some many chapters, also tooru didn't feel as the final villain.*Kaato not being so relevant and then bam she appears at the end.*Holly's never going to see again is fused son and daughter. *Jobin's betrayal motives was pretty shitty on my opinion. Also part of me liked how Jobin died, but also I wanted some kind of fight between him and Josuke, his son was some kind of hypocrite too. Also I liked Norisuke and King Nothing a lot, the man was based.
>>230971678>one character presented as a female on the first place is actually a dudet. never read/watched a single manga or anime in his life
>>230991961you autists are like frogs in boiling water
Netflix produced the Dave Chapelle specials and fired the employees who protested. They're the most redpilled streaming service out there
>>231014331Meant for>>230971402and everyone else whining about muh tranneez and gayz
>>231000474her and jolyne's woman driving moment at the end of the pucci and weather fight.
>>231014133How would you rate it from 1 to 10?
>>230971402Netflix is just the distributor, the anime is made by David Production. There is 0 interference by Netflix
>>231013508BASED. i'm definitely rewatching the episodes with you fags.
>>230977730>all damage to my animals reflects back at u lol>lol I force you to have out of body experiences by punching>oh I also heal lmao>can sense life energy in a 3000 light year radius why not>can turn a single bullet into a tree which grows fast enough to grab a helicopter in motion because fuck any sense of conservation of mass>poison? lol I turn an inanimate object that's touching the poison into an animal and inject its blood into myself, automatic immunity get fucked>also only i can control requiem stands noone else is allowed because ???All this aside GER is retarded enough to warrant Giorno being F tier on its own
>>231014133>Jobin's betrayal motives was pretty shitty on my opinionWhat betrayal? I assume you mean him attacking Norisuke, but Jobin's motives the whole time were getting the fruit for the sake of the family's future and he stayed true to that all the way. He didn't turn heel on Norisuke, he was just knowingly acting in a way Norisuke was against all along and when Norisuke found out he had to do something about it. He and Norisuke were always of two different minds in that department though, Norisuke just didn't realize what Jobin had been doing until then. I wouldn't consider it a betrayal though because Norisuke knew Jobin disagreed with him on a lot of things, he just didn't know how fargone Jobin had gone on acting in the ways he disagreed with Norisuke.
>>231014727Interesting, I guess I'm going to read it again but more carefully. I liked jojolion, but for some reason I believed it was to not end with Tooru.
>>230978979>the turtle thingOh yeah I forgot he can just produce exact clones of Stand-possessing animals, if Ratt was in part 5 he could've just planted cheese or some shit on Diavolo instead of the brooch and rolled a barrel of Ratts into the cathedral. His creations don't have any time limits either, if he was in Part 3 he could literally have brought Iggy back from the dead
>>230991933Dude wanted to show female nipples in manga and noone can stop him
>>231014870I don't like Tooru and was really disappointed that Jobin wasn't the final fight, but I do think it was supposed to end with him. I don't think the plot was well planned out in many ways, but the whole thing about people overcoming a disaster, like the eathquake that was the influence for the whole plot, is just too in line with The Wonder of U's power for me to think he just came up with that off the cuff. I can see it being the case that The Wonder of U was actually going to be Tsurugi's Stand or something like that, seeing as disasters were happening around him as he got more sick and I don't think it was ever explained why, or how he avoided Oujiro when he was up near the pine with him or any of that, but even if Tooru wasn't going to be The Wonder of U's user, I think The Wonder of U was always going to be the final fight, not Jobin and Speed King.
>>230991933trannies = funny
>>231013508>>231014693Is cd from vaughnsoft up for it?
>>2310144267/10I really liked the fights but the plot feels inconsistent at times. The thing is: the beginning of jojolion is really catchy. And the fucking radio gaga incident chapter was out of place.
>>231015014Mina chan accident happens because the head doctor was outside the school stalking Mitsuba and Tsurugi (Tooru and Wu suspected someone of the Higashikata's stole the branch, probably Tsurugi was part of it because ''he could make his stand fly''). Mina tries to reach HD and gets calamited (people with bad karma can see WoU too, just like Rai's cellmates). Obviosuly, Mina's karma was less bad than the child killer and she is just midly injured.When the mother in the park put the baby into the fountain instead into the pram, is because the mother touches Paper Moon origami and gives it back to Tsurugi, also Tsurugi says he was slowly losing control of his own stand.When Ojiro walks towards Tsurugi and finds himself near the cliff, in the next panel there is a closeup on Paper Moon, Tsurugi used his stand to escape from Ojiro.Regarding Tsurugi's speech in the flashforward (stand power, emotions boiling over that have to eventually reach their destination...) he is obviosuly referring to Speed King attacking Norisuke, just look at the words he uses, in fact soon after it's shown Norisuke in the body bag.WoU first appearence (''naked'' with the armblades) has a design with many things reminding Tooru's clothes (the sun design and the strips around his body reminiscing the ones around Tooru's arms).Then sure, Araki changed the flashforward, Joshu has both his arms, the family is chilling and the house is not destroyed by the plane, but there in 0 evidence on Tsurugi being the user of WoU
>>230961988part 6 is known to be one of the weaker parts and netflix. At this rate though we will finish parts 7 and 8 before 9 is even 1/3 the way done.
>>231015604Yeah, also for me is a 7/10The plot is a mess (not a complete mess because it has its good chunks like Josefumi and Kira, Kato and Jobin, Yasuho's flashback, Ojiro returning, callbacks to SBR event and characters). The setting is amazing, stand battles very entertaining ,the art very good, I liked many of the characters. Shame Jobin wasn't the main villain.I liked Radio Gaga, nothing trascendental, but it was good to see Lucy again and a little of Joseph. It was more like a Rohan spinoff kind of story.I hated Holly's situation left like this, but I also hope that we will have a resolution in part 9 (making her die or live, I don't care, just don't leave her in an eternal coma)
JoKu, not JoJo
>>230961859I don't understand how you can find this manly same face attractive,
>>231015828>I hated Holly's situation left like this, but I also hope that we will have a resolution in part 9Pretty much this. Godammit pic related was very emotional.
>>231014719>>also only i can control requiem stands noone else is allowed because ???What did he mean by this?
Bros... will we ever have a kino ED again like Last Train Home?
>>231016146I might be wrong but I get the feeling motherhood is one of Jojolion's core themes
>>230961988Netflix + >>230961870
The protagonist of JOJOLANDS' Stand will be named "There's Something About Mary" named after the song by Jonathan Richman made for the movie of the same name.
>>231015642>Regarding Tsurugi's speech in the flashforward he is obviosuly referring to Speed King attacking NorisukeNo."There are changes in the heart""The heart, along with a Stand ability... feels things like fatigue... and age as time goes on...""Sometimes, when one accidentally steps in the wrong place... something that one had meant to keep shut deep inside them will boil over like a volcano.""When that happens, no matter how desperately you try to stop it, you won't be able to."None of that apply to Jobin. He killed Norisuke because he was an obstacle. It wasn't supposed to happen.Was Jobin fatigued?Did he "accidentally" stepped in the wrong place?What is the thing that was meant to be kept shut down deep inside him, that "boiled over like a volcano"?"No matter how desperately you try to stop it, you won't be able to." Well, we later learned that Jobin held back to not kill Norisuke, so that's not true.And also, what would be the point of describing this event early (Jobin attacking Norisuke) if it had no consequence at all, in the end?
>>231016615Diavolo literally grabs the arrow but can't use it for absolutely no reason, while Polnareff can use it but can't control the Stand. Neither of them had MC power I guess
>>231017474Jobin's backstory, an innocent child brainwashed by his mother. Tsurugi himself says it during ''Beetlemania'' talking about his father 'For what reason one becomes evil, maybe out of innocence?'' (that's basically Jobin's story). As time goes on, Jobin becomes more and more obsessed with Tsurugi, the curse and making the Higashikatas powerful (see his speech with Norisuke at the stadium).And it all comes crashing down when Jobin kills Ojiro and Makorin in cold blood (they weren't innocent, I'm not denying it) and this marked the end for the family. Norisuke understood his son's true nature, Jobin had to attack him with Speed King (a heat powered stand, boiling over...a volcano...) and his bad karma (unleashing Blue Hawaii on Morio, killing 2 people and injuring his father) made him die almost immediately against Wonder of You.Funnily, most people thoutgh these words were associated with a future stand powerup, but there was really no evidence for it.
>>231017609Speedreaders are a plague these days
>>231017609Diavolo tries to pierce himself the same moment Bucciarati destroys Requiem so he goes back to his body without succeding to pierce himself.Polnareff dies during Silver Chariot transformation, so the stand without its master goes rogue
>>231017609>Diavolo literally grabs the arrow but can't use itDiavolo isn't in his original body. His spirit is being pulled back because Bruno destroyed SCR.>while Polnareff can use it but can't control the StandPolnareff isn't in his original body. He used it while in his original body before it died, we can't know whether he would be able to control it then. He easily took the arrow from SC in the flashback, so he probably had control at that time.In fact, that might not even be it. Maybe there can only be one Requiem at the same time, and it's not until SCR disappears that the arrow can be used again. After all, the arrow is unique.I literally just thought up these two scenarios after reading your post. What about them is so difficult for you to imagine?
>>231017843I just answered to him instinctively, but maybe he was just trolling now that I think about it
>>231017789Honestly, that seems like a big reach.If this really was what Araki wanted to tell in the flashforward, then he clearly failed.Nobody understood it, except you, apparently.
>>231017789>his bad karma (unleashing Blue Hawaii on Morio, killing 2 people and injuring his father) made him die almost immediately against Wonder of You.>"Karma"Wow, Josuke must have been a Saint, compared to him.
>>230971678The tranny gets put in her birth gender prison so it's based.
>>231014719Remember when he cloned a turtle together with its stand. GER was just cherry on top.
>>231018145Not wanting to start an ethycal essay on the characters, but Josuke, except for Damo, always killed in self defense (he just wanted to threaten Yotsuyu to make him talk, but he choose not to, he warned the twins to stop because he already won, he killed Urban because, well, he was about to kill him and killed Wu to save Yasuho and Mitsuba,Moreover, he was born just 1/2 months before, so his karma was not so bad.Jobin had 33 years, most of them with the twisted ideology of Kaato, betrayed its entire family allying himself with the rockmen and accepting that Damo tortured them, unleashed Blue Hawaii, killed Ojiro and Makorin, injured Norisuke etc...Also, he attacked WoU under the sheets almost at point blank range. Josuke also attacked Wou at point blank (when he kicked it in the lab), but he was saved by Born this way.
>>231018001But it is not even as many said `` It is obvious that paper moon will have a power up ''
>complaining about asspulls>in fucking jojoHow did you people even make it past Part 1?
>>231018519What about Taoka and Kei?What did they do to be instantly killed?
>>231018599Some asspulls are better than others.
>>231018673Taoka was a journalist trying to expose him to the world and had all the proofs to corner him, so the intensity of the pursuit was at very high levels (just like Rai who was at point blank range with a piercing band to its head).Kei was the first one to manage to injure it (although indirectly with Born this Way's wind), she went too far and got killed
>>230961988I'm just hyped for the second part of SO, the first part is just okay besides the FF chapters, those were great.
>>231018599This is the rule: If the amount of cool shit > the amount of bullshitThen asspull goodElseThen asspull bad
>>231017855>>231017870Stands aren't physical objects, there's no reason a manifestation of a person's spirit couldn't grab the arrow just because the user's soul isn't currently in their body>Polnareff lost control because he lost his original bodyYet noone else lost control of their stands after body-switching, and Kira still had KQ after becoming a ghost?
>>231018825So you're telling me that Taoka's karma was worse than Josuke's, just because he wanted to "expose and corner him"?Wanting to expose the Head Doctor is worse than the intention of killing him?>Kei went too far so she got killedYou made that up to prove your point.
Poor Tom: Betrayed Jobin and tried to killed the whole family. Plus he cheated on his girlfriend (baddest karma for it, I assure you). OneshottedMina chan: mocked Tsurugi, mild injuryJosuke, Rai and Yasuho at the hospital: followed him, mild injuries. When Josuke and Yasuho run to the bus, a bigger calamity comes (the car)Rai’s cellmate: killed several children, literally oneshotted Mitsuba: tries to reach head doctor, light injuries, but when she betrays Yasuho closing the wc, her entire hand got piercedThe journalist: went too far with the investigationJobin: Rock Humans, Blue Hawaii, Ojiro, Makorin, Norisuke. Shitty karma, oneshottedRai and Kei: went too close to kill him (aka they pursued too much)Josuke and Joshu: attacked him very closely, but with regular attacks (Joshu just tries to give Tooru regular punches and after all he was trying to save Yasuho, Josuke kicks him, he is getting more and more injured but he is saved by Kei)I think, more or less, is coherent. Then yeah, there’s the condition ‘’If you touch something WoU has already touched you are getting calamited anyway’’ that is a stretch and was pulled from nowhere, being the stand already too powerful, but for the rest is coherent
>>231019060Josuke is saved by Holly, otherwise he would have suffocated to death.Kei injured WoU's head, not only she was the first one to injure it, but a few centimers more she would hve killed it (just like Rai)
>>231017892I meant you anon
>>231019215Josuke had the intention of killing him during the whole fight.It's not just this scene.>Kei injured WoU's headKaato stopped Tooru with her cards, but nothing happened to her.Isn't it worse than simply pursuing Wonder of U?She's killed after, but only because she crushed the Rokakaka.
>>231019057When Requiem dies, both person's spirit and stand return to its original body, just look at Trish and Spice GirlThey had nevertheless a body, Polnareff was literally dead and used his last remains of energy to attach his soul to the turtle. Kira is a different case because he was a ghost, and in Jojo there is not a univocal rule in death: someone becomes a ghost (Reimi, the Kira's), someone else a vision (Joseph, Gyro, Rai in some way...), others simply die
>>231019328The same Josuke who sat on a chair for 10 chapters?Josuke began to fight only after Rai's death (when Rai was point blank range, Josuke told him not to attack him, but to make him attack them). When Josuke began to fight, he got calamited, saved by Kei, and then unlocked Go BeyondKaato, I'll admit is a stretch, she ''just wanted to show Tooru her ability without harming him'', I repeat it's a stretch. Then she crushes the rokaka to make Tsurugi heal and killing him.And well, she died because she literally killed him (again, maximum pursuit)
>>231019405JJL fucking sucks.
>>231019405Wow, this pic is really bullshit. Let's begin:Rai is running towards Josuke, not towards HDRai DIES because he was trying to attack HD, so that's a pursuit, I don't see the problemObladi Oblada rapidly multiplying on Josuke and sucking his blood was the calamityKato we already said it, it's a stretch. Anyways, she dies 20 seconds laterThat was just the stand activationMitsuba knew she didn't have to pursue HD, she literally tells it to Jobin a few pages later, so she didn't pursued him, she just said that HD was in the house, it's not a pursue. When instead she saw him outside the house the first times, she tried/thought to reach it and got (mildly) calamited
>>231019497>When Josuke began to fight, he got calamited,Well, yeah. But based on what you said earlier about "Karma", he should have been instantly obliterated.Instead, he keeps surviving minor Calamities.And no, "he got saved by Kei" is not a good excuse, if "Karma" was actually consistent, he would have been already dead.
>>231019655Like I said, Josuke, except for Damo, always killed in self defense (he just wanted to threaten Yotsuyu to make him talk, but he choose not to, he warned the twins to stop because he already won, he killed Urban because, well, he was about to kill him and killed Wu to save Yasuho and Mitsuba,Moreover, he was born just 1/2 months before, so his karma was not so bad.There were characters with worst karma than him, like Jobin, Poor Tom and Rai's cellmate
>>230975982People suddenly pretending Part 5 is good and beloved by the fans is my favorite revisionism this TORtanic is pushing
>>231019705But, I'm talking about his intention to kill him, not what he did earlier in the story.You just said that Taoka died because he tried to expose the Head Doctor.Not only, it's not worse than the intention of KILLING him, but also, I'm pretty sure he lived a normal life before that.Why would his fate be different than Josuke's, even though the latter probably did worse things than him during JoJolion?This is not logic at all.
>>231019828Let me guess, the people who like it aren't "real fans".
>>231019612>Rai is running towards Josuke, not towards HDEarlier, Rai simply called Josuke to let him know about the Head Doctor, Calamity still happened.>Rai DIES because he was trying to attack HD, so that's a pursuit, I don't see the problemThe pursuit was when he tried to impale him.Pointing at him menacingly doesn't count as a pursuit, somehow.Meanwhile, thinking about Wonder of U is a pursuit.>Obladi Oblada rapidly multiplying on Josuke and sucking his blood was the calamityIt happened way too late. The whole time Josuke pursued Wonder of U in the hallway, literally nothing happened. The Calamity was kind enough to let Josuke approach him, this time.>That was just the stand activationWhat makes you say that?What's the hint?>Mitsuba just said that HD was in the house, it's not a pursue.Again, Rai tried to call Josuke about the Head Doctor, but it counted as a pursuit.Why would it be different?
>>231019951Nigger don't pretend this doesn't happen every single time an adaptation is announced for a part.>ACKSHULLAY the previous arc was the best, no one's gonna give a shit about this anime! Dead on arrival!
Josuke tries to pursue him at the hospital: calamitiesJosuke tells Rai he wants to find him at the conference: calamity rain, Josuke incapacitated himself to reach the hospital unconsciousJosuke wakes up to reach him and the policeman (calamity) tries to reach him: the policeman fall on Josuke, his side injuredJosuke swears to Holly to kill HD: calamity almost make him suffocateAfter that, Josuke sits on the chair until Rai dies, attacks him with the kick, calamity, saved by Kei, Go BeyondWanting to kill him is a thing, trying to actually do it is anotherWanting to corner him is a thing, actually doing it with significant proof is anotherAlso, don’t forget a thing. Calamities can be blocked, they are inevitable, but you can parry them, especially if you are a stand user (which Taoka isn’t). Josuke saves himself and Yasuho from the car with the bubbles, escaped the man with the injured neck’s attack thanks to the bubbles and almost did the same thing with the policeman, he temporarly defended from the rain getting inside the police car. Also, Holly saved him from suffocating and Kei blocked his calamity. Also Yasuho, who diverted the attention of calamited Joshu making him look and trip on the rokakaka pot
>>231019828VAfags just make up their own version of the story and then claim Araki did it.
>>231020070Who are you quoting?
>>231020102The problem is not that Josuke can parry the Calamities with his Stand, while Taoka can't.It's just that the Calamities were faaar more fair with Josuke than Taoka. He always had a way to defend himself.If Josuke was in Taoka's place, how would he have prevented his neck to to instantly break?I hope you understand the problem, now.
>>231020043Calling a friend to talk about the HD (talking about reaching/defeating him of course because that was Rai and Josuke's goal, not like Mitsuba who was saying to Jobin to NOT pursue him) is pursuing (just like Yasuho calling Kei), going to your friend location to see him it's another. Rai says it ''He's going ot the same place where I am going'', so, they just happen to go the same place, no pursuit.In this case, about the pursuit that was ''slow'', it's simply suspension of disbelief, where a long speech happen in a few seconds (just look at the monologues in time stop and time skips in Jojo). Rai approaches him, mock him, HD talks and provokes him, calamity (that was nevertheless bound to happen, it was the same cause and effect, from Rai turning towards him and getting calamited). And anyway, who tells you that while Rai was talking to him, Josuke's bubbles weren't already approaching him?Same thing, Josuke shots at him and Obladi Oblada attacks him. During this time Rai's spirit (?) talks to him about Go Beyond and shits, but it's not a problem in ''real time'', unless you have never read a comic beforeThat was the first time the stand appeared and after that calamities took place (for Josuke, Rai and Yasuho, Mitsuba was already targeted)
>>230961870Lol no. Such a fucking jobber. Even Diavalo is a better villain than him, and he's retarded.
>>230961988Too many normies talking about it online. Also, the adaptions themselves.
>>231020408Some of Josuke's calamities were heavy too, he just managed to defend himself.The car outside the hospital, powered by the calamity, would have gravely injured them, if not killedThe equivalent exchange had practically killed him (just like Taoka) but he was saved by HollyKei saved him in the lab otherwise he would probably be impaled by pointy objectsObladi would have sucked him dry if Josuke wouldn't have used the water, knowing it was a weakness for the rocks creatures (as saw with Yotsuyu).In the end, Josuke survived because he was smarter, had S&W and, moreover, he had allies. Damn, he pratically defeated Tooru thanks to Yasuho
>>231020450>>231020689I understand your (often, dishonest) view on things, but I'll get back to my original point:Calamity is far more fair with some characters, than others. That's all.You can nitpick however you want, but you must admit that Calamity is, overall, awfully inconsistent. Same for the definition of "Pursuit".I don't want to repeat myself again, so I'll redirect you to that:>>231018145.This, can't be totally logically explained.
>>231021238And also this:>>231019405
>Made In Heaven is 25 weeks awayI'm not gonna make it bros
>>231021678>Made in Heaven will be a CGI horseActually, I think I can wait a bit
>>231021794The horse flies, so it will be fine.
Reminder for the event.https://jojo-news.com/2021/11/19/stone-ocean-anime-event-will-be-held-on-november-28/
I'm reading 8 at what point does it drop the ball because I'm enjoying it more than 5 and 6 so far.
>>230961870>>231020582>jobberNo, Tooru has the most powerful stand in the series. It's the Self-Defense argument of stands in that all you have to do is provoke someone to attack you or even make someone go the same direction you are, and it's automatically considered pursuit. That's actually why his character sucks. Such a powerful stand and it's attached to such a nobody.
>>231021678Correct me if I'm wrong, but won't it all release at once if it's on Netflix?
>>231023314It drops the ball when you decide it dropped the ball, just fucking read it and don't ask retards on 4chan to tell you when to stop enjoying something
>>231023398I don't keep up. Does 4chan hate or love part 3 and part 4?
>>231019597It falls apart at the end but it's mostly good. I find it kind of hard to judge because of how much it swings in quality, so much of the end is just confusing and it does harm to earlier parts of the story retroactively, but I still enjoyed reading it plenty up until around halfway through Wonder of U, so it's hard for me to be too hard on it.
>>231023321>That's actually why his character sucks.His character sucks, but not because of that. It is probably the greatest disparity between the quality of a Stand and its user in the series in my opinion, and it's even more pronounced by Wonder of U feeling like it has a personality of its own, but Tooru would be shitty no matter what his Stand was. That he has Wonder of U is his saving grace if anything because it makes him kind of cool by association.
>>231023321This.Wonder of U's power is absurd, but if the user was a semi-god, like Kars, or a very unusual character, I wouldn't find it as problematic.Instead, it was Tooru. Basically, a simple teenager.The fact that he's actually very old doesn't change anything. What's shown of his personnality has nothing to do with his weird Stand.
>>231023321>Such a powerful stand and it's attached to such a nobody.That's why he's a jobber.
>>230962027came for this, everyone else in this thread is a fag
Finished part 8.It was okay. I've had a few questions though.
>>231028773So Kei is dead, Holly is still in her coma. Caato died, right? Joubin is dead. What's the point of the new fruit if the hospital is packing lots of them? Why are they destroying the fruits if they need one?
>>231028905The new fruit and the old fruit are different. They want the new fruit but the old fruit is what they had at the hospital.
>>231028949what's the difference lmao they both did equivalent exchange. how the fuck was joubin going to use the new fruit to stop the curse? how did holly start healing?
>>230961859remember when the series first started with fighting vampires with sunlight martial arts?
>>231028974The old fruit requires exchanging some other part of your body for the healing. The new fruit allowed that to be passed onto someone else. Even with that distinction though it's not clear why that would fix the curse or how this was any different from the little cave on the Higashikata land that was used to heal Jobin using that one bully.
>>231029000It got quite bizarre over time. Also nice digits
>>231029024I can't say im particularly happy at the wasted potential of jojolion but after reading it all in one go, it's really a 8-9/10 with a 6/10 ending. I was expecting much worse with how people talk about it. Joubin was robbed though, he never even got into a proper stand fight.
>>231029056like damn I think jojolion has the worst case of>introduce a character>have one or two parts with them>completely forget they exist>optional: bring them back to just dieI know it's an issue in part 4 as well but when considering part 8 is more about mystery, whodunit and identity where almost everyone can be a culprit, it's really dumb how Araki just out right does it in this part.
>>231029131I'm still mad about Karera
>>231029150i forgot. that's another fucking thing. dude needs to storyboard his shit out. I hope when the anime gets to it, it fixes lots of the plot holes in the part. There's so many fucking someone says X or Y or does X or Y and then a couple chapters later they say something completely different.
wait what the fuck happened to holy in jojolion. i thought she goes into a coma. why are people saying she's dead
>>231023314When tooru is introduced but keep reading because vitamin c arc is kino
>>231029250She's in a coma but she's dying and Josuke kinda stopped trying to save her at the end
after reading all the parts again. 3 > 4 > 7 > 8 > 5 > 6 > 2 > 1 5 might be more consistent than 8 but i prefer 8 stand fights and gappy way more.
>>231029044>Also nice digitswhat do you mean?also i wanna see a female vampire stand user as a villain
>>231029523It's time for you to leave sir.
>>231029549well sorry for being new to this
>>230971997This was clearly done to justify the inclusion of men in a women's prison, but Araki decided to make it so they were right next to a men's one.
>>230971997that's a cute jolyne she needs more hentai.
>>230968949>People say Netflix but it's hard to keep a hype train last for 6+ months, Stone Ocean was announced back in April whereas Golden Wind was announced ~2 months before it aired.Which I don't get. Why not have a weekly running series? What's the harm exactly?
>>231030272that's how fuckflix makes its money. their whole thing is "we give you everything at once, so buy our passes and not anyone else's" and in this case it's possible they funded part of the show.
>>230961988>muh netflix!!You people are absolutely retarded.
>>231031098You sure about that?
>>231031177What does a live action adaptation have anything to with this retard?
>>231031194Because Netflix can always find a way to shit on anything they touch, even when they're just paying for distribution
>>231031254>even when they're just paying for distributionLike when? Every anime ive seen so far has been untouched. I think you are just autistic. Calm down jojo is going to be fine.
>>230963530JoJolion's ending is shit and it makes JoJolion a worthless waste of 10 years of Araki's life and 4 years of mineI can't explain it but it actually made me less excited about JoJo, even about the first 7 partsI don't understand, why so?
>>231031822>even about the first 7 partsThat doesn't make any sense. Think whatever you want about part 8 but I have no idea how that could effect the previous parts. I do agree that 8s ending was kind of bad though.
>>230961988>Being announced way too soon>Slideshow animation>Bland color palette>Being locked behind a paid subscriptionWhat bothers me the most is the coloring, Jojo is supposed to be colorful and flamboyant, why is everyone wearing grayish outfits, where is Jolyne's neon colored hair and blue outfit, why isn't Pucci's robe purple, why is everything so dark...
>>231031883When I think about previous parts I can't ignore issues and retcons anymore, they seriously irritate me nowBefore the end of jjl I could always reread/rewatch some part, point out if something was retconned or changed later and enjoy the restI tried to reread jjl on storytime threads but I gave up after reaching volume 10, I just couldn't go on
Debt Collector fight Leaked
>>231031961>why is everything so darkThat filter on everything seems really obnoxious, it doesn't make it more atmospheric or realistic, this particular prison setting is already as bland as it gets and then they don't even bother to play around with the palette. Dunno why they ditched whoever did color design for Part 4.
Pucci is a white man
Hoping we'll get an Act-Based Colony-Type Stand in either JOJOLANDS or a Spinoff.
Part 1+3 = Amazing Part 2+4 = OkayPart 5+6 = ?
>>231033819>part 2>okayplease die
>>231033819>Part 2, OkayExplain your reasoning behind this.
>>2310338192+4 are the best, buddy.
>>231014288That's cool Netflix still isn't producing it
>>231034310>>231034299>>231034077Yeah. Part 8 was just okay. :v
Hurr Durr Jojolion ending is SHIT:> The Higashikata curse is broken> Josuke accepts who he is and finds a real family, also found out Josefumi's mother cared for him> Yasuho helped Josuke defeat Tooru and she is happy to see him finding a real family> Joshu saves Yasuho twice and proves he can be useful> The rockmen organization is defeatedSure, there is Holly situation still upgoing, but there's also part 9 to fix that
>>231034554>Higashikata curse is brokenHow?
>>230961988Stone Ocean was shit and no amount of coping is going to change that
>>230961988NO DONT SAY IT, THIS IS AN ENEMY STAND THAT ATTACKS YOU IF YOU SAY NETFL- AHHHHHHH
>>231034554My problem with the ending of JoJolion doesn't have much to do with the way the plot goes, the only things that bother me there is how Josuke seemingly does a 180 when it comes to his concern for Holly and how the flashforward was ignored, my problem is the back half of Wonder of U is just unsatisfying to read. The fight is fun until Wonder of U just starts throwing insects at Josuke, which makes the arc feel dragged out, Tooru's boring, Jobin feels wasted after being setup so well, Kaato saving the day is unsatisfying when you barely ever see her prior to that and the shit with Joushuu, amidst his family being torn apart and on their knees, is just used for more jokes about how he wants to fuck Yasuho and is jealous of Josuke was retarded. Following the chapter if Rai dying with one of Joushuu making the exchange out to be a sex thing just didn't work for me. It's just not enjoyable to read and the whole thing feels like a good penultimate arc that was dragged until it became a bad final arc.
>I must copium with headcanons to explain Araki forgetting or not caring about tiny details
>>230991933that's the doctor humorously dismissing Jolyne's question and the purpose of the page is to foreshadow the men's prison, you're all autistic.
>>231035141Prisons dont usually have the men examined with the women..that's a tranny, you're a tranny, commit not alive.
>>231035286>don't usuallyhence the shock from Jolyne, autist.
>>231035286>Prisons don't usually Welcome to Green Dolphin. You can see another man waiting for examination in the back of the line.
>>231035286The point of Green Dolphin prison is that is extremely corrupt you fucking dingus
>>231029150Karera and kei should had replaced rai. Rai should never had existed
I didn't like part 8,but hell, Wonder of U was one of the most coherent stand power in the franchise, surely better than the inconsistant King Crimson and D4C
i think the 90s ova is greathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvQ1TdS4XRU
>>231035698The animation is really good at times and they added a lot of fitting extra scenes, but they also changed a lot of things they shouldn't have (like road roller into oil tanker) and got shitty voice acting.
>>231035852If you take into account that calamity grows proportionally to "pursuing" and "karma" is incredibly coherent. The chart you posted is incomplete and the Pursuit/Not pursuit was debunked some post up there
>>231035837also a lot of fights got cut out
>>231035950No, karma doesn't make sense in JoJolion: >>231019863
Did the anime fix any plot holes?
>>231035950>calamity grows proportionally to "pursuing"Proof?
page 10 muda
>>231036121Yeah, they added a scene with Giorno swearing he would never in his life set foot in Florida.
>>231037010ngl I think I would like Giorno more if he looked plain as fuck like before Dio blood awakened. A plain looking jojo would look metal as fuck. Although I guess Gappy kinda fits that.
>>231037045>A plain looking jojo would look metal as fuckHe wouldn't look metal as fuck, he'd look plain
I don't think Tooru is a shit character but he should have been introduced wayyyy earlier and had more foreshadowing. And Jobin should have had a chance to have a final confrontation with Josuke.
>>231018746I love you, i dont know how long you've kept up the bit of posting this webm every thread but it makes my day brighter.
>>230961988As an anime only, part 5 was so garbage that it killed the hype for part 6. But at the same time I'm mildly intrigued because surely there's no way that part 6 could be worse than part 5
I want to FUCK Jotaro!
>>231037592He wouldnt care if you came or not.
>>231037592Why? he wouldn't treat you right.
>>231037774>>231037748I just want his cummies
>>231038067Anon did you lay this egg?
in thus spoke rohan kishibe, we saw a guy supposedly possessed by Hermesgreek god stands when?
>>231034554>The Higashikata curse is brokenHow? We still know nothing about the curse and it’s never explained how them transferring it to tooru is any different that all the transfers they did of the curse in the past. The rest of your points are okay, but you don’t really understand what we mean by “the ending”, the last chapter is a fine chapter, but it feels so out of nowhere. By the ending we mean the whole second half of the tooru fight, the pacing was awful, characters showed up out of after not being seen for years just to die, that harvest countdown and flashfoward meant nothing, and there were a whole lot of inconsistencies over all. I think it says a lot that some of arakis most hardcore defenders, were still saying several chapters left to go after 108. Even they realized ending it as it would would be terrible, that didn’t stop them from back peddling and insisting that it was great all along.
>>231038398Jojolands takes place in Ancient Greece full of Araki's bizarre takes on Greek mythology. I know this because Araki is my dad.
how do you go from naming stands after the tarot major arcana + the egyptian tarot, to naming stands after music?
>>231038614Araki had already snuck music references into Jojo in parts 1/2 so it makes sense he would look that way when he ran out of Tarot cards/egyptian gods.
>>231038614Because araki already used all the tarot cards
>>231038557It's not going to take place in an actual place, it's going to take place in the mythical JOJOLA~~~NDS that it's named for.
Pucci is black. Cope and seethe.
>>231039948Cope. Pucci is black, and the anime was the final nail in your coffin.
>>230974136god I hate homos
>>230975982I like part 6 for antagonist's stand fuckery, it's cool as fuckOutside of that it's meh
>>231040848Pucci shows up every other arc so that means half of it's cool
Literally every canon homo character doesn't just get killed - they get killed brutally or gruesomely. Read it back, see for yourself. All of them get massacred.What did Araki mean by this?
>>231041012>every canon homo characterNames?
>>231039111The question I have is why does so much media portray him with dark skin? What year did the colored versions come out My best guess is that third image where he’s bathed in shadow giving the illusion of him having darker skin.
>>231041109Sorbet is cut up while living while gelato watches causing him to choke to death on a rag
>>231041109>>231041290valentine's dyke wife gets obliterated
>>230961859Uh, Stone Ocean bros?
>>231041290>>231041334Sorbet and Gelato were never confirmed gay.You're right for Scarlet, though.
>>231041343Mary Lynn Manson is actually a decent localization.
>>231041414Jumpin' Jack Spark, also.
I actually enjoy the fact that this is gonna drop in multiple episode packs since I've already read the manga.
>>230974136>>230974189>>230974229jesus christ the absolute state of fujos
>>230961988>the wait>polarizing ending to JJL>Netflix>the wait>no SawashiroPick one
>>231038482>How?Did you speedread anon? They clearly shot it in the head.
>>231041605Jojolion's ending was horrible but it doesn't retroactively make Kino Ocean any worse.
>>230961988Stone Ocean isn't that good to begin with.
>>231041746What's the panel where they shoot the curse in the head?
>>231041866Go Beyond shoots it and it blows up together with the plot. Easy-peasy.
>>231041779>>231034628>>231015729You know what I kept hearing stuff like "Stone Ocean bad" over and over for years that when I finally read the manga this year in May I was expecting to see a plot duller than that of Part 3, an MC more boring that that of Part 5, and characters more boring that those of Part 1But instead I found one of the best protagonists Araki has written, one who actually goes through a character arc. Instead I found Araki's best main villain whose personality, philosophy, backstory, stand powers and final punishment are so well intertwined that it's like the planet's have aligned. Instead I found one of the best third acts in any manga ever, with the level of insanity and catharsis reaching insurmountable levels.
>>231042337Based SO enjoyer
>>231042337cool story bro
>>231041425Flaccid Pancake, not so much.
>>231042337Based anon. Not for enjoying or not enjoying Stone Ocean, but for actually reading the source material for itself and forming your own opinion. The downside to memes is that over time the uniformed take that shit to heart and then repeat like it's actually true.
>>230974911>Put Underworld, and Sky High in S>Put Dragon's Dream, and Limp Bizkit in A>Switch Goo Goo Dolls with Green Green Grass of Home
>>230978243Based Weather Report>>230978332Annasui stop it, that's embarassing... she's really gonna kill you if you keep insisting...
How many episodes drop on Dec 1?Eight?
>>23104341712 episodes.It will end on this.
>>231034554> The Higashikata curse is brokenWe don't know if it's broken, eating a fully mature new rokakaka may break the curse, but Tsurugi only drank the sap of an unripe new rokakaka. It may have been enough to transfer the desease to Tooru, but we still don't know if Tsurugi's 1st child will get it or not. Even if it broke it for Tsurugi's descendants, it most likely haven't broken the curse for Haato, Joshu, and Daya's first child.> Josuke accepts who he is and finds a real family, also found out Josefumi's mother cared for himJust because someone isn't from your family doesn't mean you have to let them die, especially when that person saved your life at least twice.> Yasuho helped Josuke defeat Tooru and she is happy to see him finding a real familyTooru's defeat was just an asspull that literally wasn't explained nor forshadowed in story (only in a cover page), and Tooru himself was a shit vilain with no goal.> The rockmen organization is defeatedWe don't know. Rock humans most likely have accomplices in PNG, or anywhere else in the world, I highly doubt the whole population of rock humans were concentrated in Morioh.
>>231043461I remember thinking Jotaro would be coming back to defeat Pucci with the squad (or at least Josuke and Koichi) when coming across this panel>mfw Jotaro actually comes back
>>231041109The whole vilain cast of Part 5 (except Diavolo and Melone), and Valentine's wife
>>231041425Not a stand name, but Operation Savage Guardian is a pretty good title too
>>231043674>Jolyne, Josuke, and Giorno never metWhy Araki, why....
>>231043697>The whole vilain cast of Part 5 (except Diavolo and Melone)Source: 「My Fantasies」
>>231043867It's strange though. Part 6 was the finale of the Joestar family tragedy and its history with Dio. Why all of a sudden Josuke and Giorno don't count enough as Joestars to join in? Weren't their lives also affected by Dio's actions? And this is not even considering Giorno also being a son of Dio.
>>231042337I’m glad you enjoyed it anon. Stone ocean has some of my least favorite fights but overall the part is very good. I don’t know why stone ocean has the reputation of being the “bad part”.
>>231044159It would’ve been cool to see them, but they probably would’ve have to die so the story can progress. Them showing up so late just to die might’ve felt cheap .
>>231044180I believe most people just speedread SO because they want to get to SBR faster
>>231044282Josuke and Shizuka could have showed up during the prison break part to help her get away from the guards in the YYM arc, and Giorno at the beginning of the sons of DIO arc, refusing to help Pucci, and helping Jolyne find him (instead of the whole "He got a star birthmark, I can locate him" thing)
>>231044282>they probably would’ve have to die so the story can progressYeah, I get that. I also recognize that time (heh) wasn't on Jotaro's side once he woke up. Josuke is still a world away in Japan and Giorno has to be tracked down and contacted. That'll take at least two days and Pucci was already at Canaveral iirc.
3 episodes of Dragon Dream.I repeat... 3 EPISODES OF DRAGON DREAM.
>>231045623>only 3 episodes of Filter DreamHold me bros...