>FAMASDoes the UN really?
>>229410884the UN doesn't have a military, they borrow whoever will volunteer
>>229410884Ian is watching
>>229413730he really does enjoy that gun.
>>229410884only the SAMURAI can use the katana
>>229410884That's clearly an M16.
>>229410884>un>outfittedThe only time these dudes are armed is when they feel like raping a bunch of Haitian women.
>>229410884uhhhhh that is clearly an Assault Rifle 15 with the deadly bump stock and 400 round clip. are you dumb?
>>229416276This time they're the one that got raped
>>229411067>>229416276The UN is a pretty big deal in Muv-Luv.
>>229416433>It takes a fucking alien invasion to have the blue helmets not diddle their dicks for hours on end Jesus
Any way to run Muv-Luv on Android?
>There are some "people" ITT who will be anime-only
unrelated, but this reminded me that in Guilty Crown UN grunts were armed with fucking MP7
>>229410884Bullpups are nice looking future guns. What's the big deal? Even the mechs are using them.
>>229410884You talking shit about the ultimate badasses, boy?
What's wrong with FAMAS?
>>229421107Nothing really, gun hipsters just rip on it because it's FAMAS
>>229421107>"We need a futuristic-looking gun that isn't the FN P90."
>>229421450Would you have preferred a VHS?
>>229417904People join blue helmets because its easy way for thirdie soldier to get paid firstoid soldier salaries. Once its over its easy way to get recommendation for guard duty in Middle east just holding an AK at some oil fields then come back home after 5 years a rich man.If a blue helmet dies the politician in his country risk the wrath of his voters so they have to choose between diddling dicks during a genocide or losing elections.A guy who used to be blue helmet in Somalia said the capital have to discuss for 5 hours before deciding whether to help the burgers or not when the battle of mogadishu started and burgers need all their APCs.
>>229421107nothing, it's a good gun and foreigners always whine because they couldn't produce a gun able to outperform it.anglo propaganda against the FAMAS.
>>229421450The P90 got upgraded to a robot gun.
Do the BETA hate the anti-christ?
>>229421927The French may be French, but they do know how to make some neat guns.
>>229421069F for my boys
>>229421107Its FrenchFrench arms deals often come with blackmail or political baggage, no reason for any country to buy their guns when Colt sells M4 license and Belgium offers FNC license.AFP is part of their govt and its english portal are often used to flame foreign politicians who refuse their deals.
>>229421916> Operation Lucifer> CODE:666Repent or be torn apart by an everlasting gravitational tidepolite self-sage for RPshit
Is France alive at this point in MuvLuv?
>>229410884Is that a FAMAS
>>229422291They're Europe almighty shield
>>229410884I kno riteReal #operators use the P90
>>229411067Imagine being right wing enough to join the military but still chugging enough onions to join the most evil military on the planet
Does the UN really?
>>229422402The UN is literally just a conservative mouthpieceThey never advocate for freedom, it's always banning shit that anglos or muslims don't like
>>229410884"WE HAVE YOU SURROUNDED! COME DRINK YOUR CORN SYRUP!"
>>229422291They ran off to Quebec and use their own 3rd gen TSF.
>>229422338I don't know based on the maps >>229416433 they look pretty dead, existing only on paper.
>>229422425>Corn syrupYou've confused the US military with the UN militaryCommon mistake
>>229422291>>229422445They're at war with the US in Muv-Luv Unlimited: The Day After.
>>229421450>>229421872P90 is peak soul. That's why Stargate used it.
>>229422291Takeru rips them and Canada a new one in TDA.
>>229422547I feel like that would be one sided yet your image suggests otherwise.
>>229422569The P90 is a blowback gun in a silly plastic shell. Practically a toy.
>>229422291Currently France is in Algeria (and presumably Corsica): >>229416433One of the big hives is at Lyon.
>>229422225it's the same for US licenses and any other countries, my naive boy.all US advanced weaponry relies on US chips and they have a special law that forbid the use of weapons with those chips inside if they decide to pressure you, that why people prefer to buy Russian or French when they need to use their weapons against US allies or partners (or just be independent from the US).
>>229422423yeah conservatives just love feminism, diversity, etc
>>229421107FAMAS sucks. M4A1-S is your friend
>>229422726>yeah conservatives just love feminismUnironically yesMost adult feminists these days are fucking prudes
Where is the "Tama is my waifu" poster?
>>229422759Pierce is MIA.
>>229421107It's a shitty Tavor.
>>229422785Tavor has a completely different operating mechanism, you philistine.
>>229422593TDA takes place after Alternative 5. The gravity anomalies caused all of Eurasia to become submerged and large parts of the world ha turned into salt plains. There are also many areas where the atmosphere is fucked up. Canada and France went to war against the US over what little inhabitable land remained in North America.
>>229422820Not him, but I assume the french flooded quebec as europe was lost?
Looking forward for animeonlies getting mixed up this thot with Meiya
>>229421872>magazine blocking the sightI seriously hope I'm missing something from this gun, because this is just peak retard design.
>>229422894Thats a TSF gun
>>229422894The TSF headgear used by the pilot displays the information in their vision automatically.
>>229421107I prefer Austrian bullpups.
>>229422894TSF's don't need to ADS.
>>229422933He did nothing wrong.
reminder to read the VN and not skip Extra.
>>229422820>large parts of the world ha turned into salt plainsDamn, so no more Australian shit posters.That seems like a 'no, you also get fucked' to Oceania and I presume South America who should have been comparatively okay otherwise.
>>229423011The amount of anti-Americanism is pretty damn strong in Muv Luv world.
>>229422987America is unironically the most sensible power in Muvluv's setting. The CIA are huge pieces of shit though.
>>229421107it's so shitty that even its own country got rid of it for a German-made AR-15 clone
>Nobody talks about the fact that Takeru was carrying an Assault Rifle on the march but Marimo told him to carry a SAW Machine gun
>>229423288That's pretty accurate to the real world as well, in terms of realism I'd rate it 9/11.
>>229423307America is the asshole in the playground who thinks the war is as good as won once they let loose the G-bombs and has made preparations accordingly to take over the world.
>>229423367France didn't get rid of it because it's shit, they phased it out because we don't have new parts for it anymore, the company that made it stopped its activity in 2001, so every FAMAS ever is at minimum as old as 2001.we just ran out of parts.
>>229423374Kek, I guess they just forgot
>>229423374Thought it meant he gets to carry it in his backpack while also on rifle duty.
>>229418422It was supposed to be a stretch goal of the KS, but we knew how that turned out even though all stretch goals got exceeded
>>229423537Was the Codex a single run print or was can people still buy it?
>>229423288Muvluv burgers are pretty accurate to real life burgers. They want to be good guys but are quiet scummy and ruthless even with ally if they don't get what they want.
>>229423622Only a single run I'm afraid
>>229423011Would saintgiri vote for trump?
>>229421107It's not an AR or a Scar clone
>>229423649Oh no, dont worry. I got my Codex already.Now I can wave my dick in the face of collectors.
Do we need 4 pages of ML everyday?
>>229423537Goddamnit, no hacks either? I read much more focused on phone than on computer screen these days, that's why I'm asking.
>>229423706Just stream it on your phone. I always stream it over Steam in bed.
>>229423706Best would have been for backers like me to have bugged Degica to release it ahead of the Vita port, but alas that ship's sailed.suman
>>229423654No, Saigiri was a hardcore nationalist.
>>229423799What does that green arrow thing mean? I've been trying to make sense of it and times even see it as an XG70 shooting its particle beam.
>>229423695Based. I really should get around to unpacking my backer stash.
>>229423406They aren't. America in muv luv are hard carrying the rest of the world and have contributed the most out of any country. Asia absolutely shit the bed during the invasion of earth notably fucking china who said NAH we got this and got btfo'd. America wants to G-Bomb because its really the smartest fuckin option at this point after the rest of the world as been shitting the bed for years.
Wish I had more money back then for the dakis.
>>229423011>start a rebellion>execute the prime minister>"t-the americans made me do it!" Fagiri is genuinely such a cowardly little bitch.
>>229423852>really the smartest fuckin option at this pointYou clearly never read TDA.
>>229421450What is the g36?
>>229423878>charge the anti-TSF tsfs>air drop more tsfs>everyone is baffled at your balls of steel / stupidity>die
>>229423901It's for villains and bad guys only.
>>229423882Not yet, i've only gone throught Extra, Unlimited, and Alternative. Is TDA good?Is my boy Walken in it?
>>229423938It would have been resolved peacefully if not for glowniggers
>>229422370Right wingers don't join the UN. UN forces fought right wing mercenaries in Katanga. The casualties the UN troops felt led to the Irish and Swedes withdrawing from the UN military for decades.
>>229423288That's why coup arc makes burgers seethe so much. It's really nothing worse than what Hollywood pumped out for decade after the good old times.
>>229423959I think TDA is better than Alternative. And yes, he's in it and he's based as usual.
>>229423959He's one of the best parts of TDA.And no, Babylon WAS a mistake. It doomed all of us
>>229423995Americans got treated pretty well in the coup arc, though. We americans fucking hate our government too. The american enlisted and officers got treated with respect and competence aside from Walken jobbing to Niggeri.>>229424004I look forward to it, then.
>>229423699You should have seen /a/ when Alt vn fan tl released
>>229423995My biggest complaint with the Coup arc is that in the actual fucking game, there's no context to why that one girl shot at the Japs and fucked up the entire situation. It was added and explained in later side material that the CIA fucked with the American TSFs.
>>229424042Us? The fuck do you mean US. Sounds like your poor ass is still stuck on earth. Imagine being so unlucky as to not having a ticket outside of the solar system. I can't relate!
>>229423959He's one of the most important side characters considering most of TDA takes place in the US.
>>229424050I haven't seen any IP getting this long of a streak on /a/
>>229424066Well how would you find out something like that? So glow niggers brainwashed but she's dead. They also fired the first shot in the capital which is also pain in the ass to find out in scant few days.
>>229424085Before FGO and Nasu's autism killed most of the love for the franchise, /a/ had neverending Typemoon threads for years.
>>229424050Coincidently it was the last time /a/ was fun since it was the last really big thing on /a/ that took the entire board by storm.
>>229424050Fucking daily threads for years.
>>229421107Only weapon which I can get positive KDA as ct so it is a noob weapon
>>229424103Extraverse and FGO are unironically the best things to have come out of Type-Moon.
>>229424109God Fucking BLESS holy shit I cant wait
>>229423367no it was just cheaper
>>229422402All the kek.
>>229424158Be careful. /a/ loves to spoil stuff.
>>229423374A lot of little things they missed like Takeru having a UN insignia on his old world high school uniform and Yuuko missing a leg at the gate.
>>229410884>NiggersDoes the UN really?
>>229423374>notice>forget to bring it uplock me up.>yfw the UN fell for the m27 meme
>>229424190I'm really sorry to hear that.
>>229424437You cucks lost your country to BETA then scurried to cucknada and teamed up with leaves to shoot at us. Fuck you. Here's some type-00r blasting your asses to kingdom come
This shit is already worse than total eclipse
>>229424527You shut your whoremouth up
>Lancia Stratos Recording CooperationDid they just borrow someone's Lancia just to record lmao
God what a waste this adaptation is shaping up to be. Anime original first episode, allegedly made to get newcomers hooked on the mecha action that they likely won't see until the end of the cour, but doesn't make the episode relevant to the rest of the plot when they could easily adapt the end of Unlimited to fit that description. Instead they make it a tie-in with a semi-obscure character that only ML diehards will recognize and a V-tuber OC. Come episode two and the setting is completely different from the first episode with completely different characters, leaving newcomers confused as they get exposition-bombed to hell and back. But despite the heavy exposition, they adapt the episode completely straight from the VN, AS IF YOU HAD ALREADY READ THE FIRST TWO VN'S. New characters show up spontaneously with a nametag to them, yet no real characterization is given to them, since the viewer is expected to know the characters already. Takeru recognizes them but the viewer has no fucking clue who they are. Hell I don't think they even explained that Jinguuji was his teacher back in his original world either. He doesn't even call her "Marimo-chan" on accident to even give a hint that he knows her very well and that she's a very important character to the story. And then the show has the audacity to go and have the emotional bonding scene with Meiya, complete with a flashback to Mt. Tengen from the previous fucking VN with absolutely zero context.
>>229424498anon you know this is fiction right?BETA aren't real, they can't physically hurt you, calm down
>>229423995Wrong. I dislike the Coup arc because it's retarded. The rebels were out of their rabid ass minds for rebelling and starting a civil war when the BETA are already grossly outpacing humanity in resources, numbers and tactics. Spilling human blood only hastens the extinction of the human race as a whole, so his folly is wholey unnecessary. Muh rights as he would put it don't matter when the fate of humanity is on the line
>>229424728You have to exceptionally stupid or speedread to write this shit
>>229424190Don't you have to riot in Paris for literally nothing like every other day, today?
>>229424763Cope. The rebels are 100% in the wrong. None of them should have ever been born because they're all just burdens to the human race as a whole
>>229424778>implying anyone would willingly go to Paris in their free timeHell no
Someone make proper ML thread
>>229424778Paris is a stinking shithole. Any parisians would attest to this.
>>229424728The rebels were 100% right and they did what they had to in order to defend Japan.
When does viva la vida play in Muv Luv before it was cut?
>>229424846They were 100% wrong and their actions did nothing but harm Japan as a whole.
>>229421107Friends that did FFL said it jammed alot
tama's TSF suit tummy...
>>229424846Ah yes, saving Japan while putting Japan in even more danger makes total sense. Fagiri was a fag and Walken would have BTFO'd him if it weren't for the CIA niggers.
>>229424846>>229424875the rebels were correct to want to have a complete say on the issue of japan's war effort / rights as it is their country, their people on the front linesthe americans / UN were correct to squash the upstart because the overall war against the beta concerns more than just Japan and it will be harder for Japan to have rights to muh about if the unity (hierarchy) of the factions is alteredalso, take your fucking pills.
>>229424847Extra when the three idiots appear IIRC
Does marimo say kisama?
>>229424989The rebels are 100% in the wrong, anon. Mutiny is not acceptable when your facing an enemy that's one good battle away from wiping out humanity. Did it suck that Japan's citizens were getting fucked over? Yeah. Did it suck that Japan was making some unreasonable concessions to America? Indeed. But you know what? None of that fucking matters, because the real enemy is the B.E.T.A.You can't fight the BETA if you're too busy spilling the blood of your comrades, especially your fucking VETERANS
I support USA because it has Raptor-chan. Simple as.
>>229425065Don't forget that the Japs, and most other countries, were pushed to the point of running out of male conscripts and were relying on young female ones.
I dont even remember how TE ended, did everyone die?
>>229425065America was in the wrong.
>>229425163I think Cryska died and Yuuya defected to the USSRDon't quote me on this though
>>229425169What part of "it doesn't matter" do you jot comprehend? Who's right, and who's wrong doesn't matter when you don't even have enough men to deploy to the battlefield against the real enemy
>>229425065Wasn't the CIA manipulating everything from the shadows anyway? Wish we got more insight about the CIA in the Altverse, TE was a wasted oportunity.
>>229425223>Wasn't the CIA manipulating everything from the shadows anyway?No idea. I read the VN years ago, so I'm minds foggy on a lot of the smaller details within the story
>>229425248IIRC they made the female pilot Tama befriended shoot, ruining the negotiations between Meiya and Fagiri and they also sabotaged Walken's TSF
>Takeru7/10 sounds close enough but extremely generic, Hoshi wasn't a stellar VA anyway desutbh>Meiya2/10 absolutely HORRIBLE. Sounds too cutesy, all the steel and conviction from her voice is gone>Kei8, close but still bothers me a bit>Tama5/10 her voiceover sound like she recorded this shit from home>Yuuko9/10 Actually the only one who nailed the role. Almost perfectly replicates the original, only sounding a bit off once in a while but nothing that should put you off>Marimo3/10 she sounds like a high schooler now. Chomp build up is ruined>Chorizo, MikotoNeed to hear more
>>229425223The glowniggers sabotaged Walken's Raptor, and forced whatshername to start shooting through hypnotic suggestion, or some shit.
>>229425065>does it suckthe fact that is sucks is an understatement, its morbid to expect anyone to understand that -they- (you) are the ass end of the sacrifice. do you think everyone has a hero's mindset? Sagiri isn't a hero, he's a cornered animal, similar to takeru when he returns to the extraverse doing exactly what he should do: try to do better. maybe calling him right is too strong a word, but he is certainly reasonable to try to secure sovereignty even at the end of the world. have you read slaughterhouse five? the trial over the teapot? same thing..t amerimutt
Yep, Walken fought fagiri to a standstill in TDA. In the forest at night he would have decimate him due to low visibility.
Why didn't they just start with Extra? SoL makes more money than mecha anyways.
>>229425393Because Extra is dogshit. The Lacross arc alone would kill the popularity of any anime adaptation because takes up like a 1/5 of the story and it's inane nonsense
>>229425285Yuuko doesn't sound as manipulative and sarcastic as the og tho...
>>229425470the lacrosse arc lasts 2h, I replayed it last week and it really wasn't that bad
>>229425481That's something to do with the script. I also thought Yuuko was way too nice here.
>>229425470you literally could adapt the "lacrosse arc" in one episode without missing anything
>>229425470Extra was fun. It takes all the classic SoL tropes and make them over the top.
>>229425508let the extra frodos seethe. Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do (Lk 23:34)
>>229424190Assalamu alaykum, brother.
It's been a few years since I read Alternative, is this worth watching so far?
>>229422755>Unironically yesKys, the left is plaguing modern society.
>>229424695From what I've seen anime onlies are incredibly confused by the second episode because they're missing two fucking games worth of contextIt's so fucking funny how this was somehow made to attract new fans even though they can't even get into the story they just think the average anime viewer is brainless enough that they'll stick around for the mecha action scenes
>>229425906Yeah. Not much to complain if you are not a VNautist
>>229425906There's countless things wrong with it, but expectations were set so low, that what we've seen so far doesn't come across as a complete insult.
Normies in the west seem to not like this. Why? To confusing with all the other adaptions?
>>229425065You can't just say "for the sake of winning the war against the BETA, everyone should obey America" and expect everyone to comply. Why should Americans be the ones giving commands? Fuck that, I'd be really tempted to just let BETA win.
>>229426061Normalfags wouldn't like it even if it got a good adaptation. They're normalfags, why would you expect any different. At most they'd be on board for the mech action, but we likely won't be seeing much of that.
>>229426061>Normies in the west seem to not like this...because they're missing two fucking games worth of context>>229426061
>>229425470Slogging through Extra is part of the experience. Reading the epilogue of Alternative got me feeling so happy going back to harem rom-com hijinks.
>>229426128I apologize the second (you) here was meant for >>229425961
>>229426189Yes I could tell you are just replying to yourself there
>>229423307>the most sensible>triatorous bitches that make promises and then break them while murdering their own people lel
Shirogane transferred to the IJA in TDA after everything went wrong right?
>>229426329Well duh, the UN dissolved.
>>229426097>Why should Americans be the ones giving commands?Because they're the only ones that actually have their shit together and are keeping more BETA from landing on Earth.
>>229426329Aye, he joined up to protect the Shogun.
Did they really skip Extra in the flashback and spent less than a minute to explain Unlimited?
>>229426405Yeah, I don't give a shit about that. Just because the first hive landed in Xinjiang instead of Athabasca and thus the US knew what they would be dealing with doesn't give them the right to command everyone else.
>>229426587due to circumstances beyond our control, you will either be passing away or placed on the frontlines against the Beta. what joy it is to serve humanity against its greatest foe!
>>229426577There are some extra stills in the flashback
>>229426577It's adaptation of Alternative, not Extra or Unlimited. Right there in the name nigga.
>>229426738It's a shame raptor-chan didn't win but that is the fate of childhood friends.
>>229426577They had the perfect setup to show mech action at the end of Unlimited too if they wanted to get normies on board with muh AoT with mechs shit instead of showing a bunch of literally who original characters and some vtuber's OC donut steel
>>229426329He got recruited as a honorary royal guard after he soloed several hundred BETA in a fucking Gekishin without XM3.
Think best girl will get a cameo?
>>229426402They didn't get dissolved but they lost almost all of their power. They're still around and growing again in TDA.
>>229422338Europe is fucking dead then.
>>229426939>a bunch of literally who original charactersKomaki is an important TDA character and the ship commander was also clearly a wink towards fans. It's weird because you can't tell if this adaptation was made for fans of the series or newcommers. It doesn't seem to know what it wants to do.
>>229422338Shouldn't that be Spain and England since they're the only ones with some territory untouched by the BETA
What the fuck is this ED? It feels so out of place.>>229427074Pretty sure Spain is fucking dead too, mainland Spain atleast. And aye, Britain is where most of Europe's military retreated to, I think they still launch raids into the mainland to thin out the horde near the shore, but that might just be post-Ouka.
>>229427072While ending of Unlimited would have been better as first episode. This one works too as its adapting the manga where Komaki has role in coup arc. Drives the point home why they are salty about ameriburgers.
>>229422423The UN is what modern liberals are considered today, they are not modern conservatives.
>>229427110Sicily is also an important strategic point for keeping the European shipping lines free. It's explained in one of the Photonflowers stories.
>>229427194I keep forgetting Sicily survived alongside Corsica and Piedmont.
>>229422423>conservative mouthpiece>UNNeoconservative ig but what lolbertarian retardation you smoking?
>>229427241fucking corsica i swear
>>229422402This is why nukes are a better solution to Japanese fuckery
>>229427407think of the porn anon, be honest with yourself
Fuck it, I'm starting my third run of the trilogy. See you faggots in 2~ weeks or so.
>>229427530Less temptation for my addiction? Round up that Uranium then
>>229427531do people really get off rereading the entire thing? I get redoing some key scenes you don't remember much about, but the whole fucking thing... how autistic is this place
>>229427241>PiedmontHow, there are no natural barriers. Did you mean Sardinia?
>>229427704Sardinia, that's it. I've been playing too much EU.
>>229427635I like to reread that scene of Takeru and Isumi on the deck of the ship having a chat about what motivates soldiers to fight. Very somber scene.
>>229427795I often skip that stuff because its too lecturous
>>229427635There is this thing called cutting voice lines and skipping scenes you don't like
>>229427531What is Takeru looking at?
>>229427944would that count as rereading?
getting that fps itch againa shame they're all p2w lootbox trash nowadays
>>229422423Okay then, tell me what unfettered immigration, globalism, neoliberal capitalism, and progressivism are conserving. You cannot call something conservative that inherently doesn't conserve anything about a society.
>>229428016Why tf not? Even in the first read i'd cut drawn out or annoying lines which is ripe in jap visual novels
>>229427635It's been several years since I last read through it, and I like seeing how my perspective on stories has changed over time. The first time I read the trilogy was around 2011 and I slogged through Extra then loved Unlim and Alt. Second time through around 2016-17ish I'd read quite a few more VNs since and ended up enjoying Extra quite a bit and really enjoyed al the subtle foreshadowing throughout.
>>229410884Must've gotten the surplus after France switched to the 416
>>229428095They conserve my erection
>>229427635Don't you read books and manga more than one time ever? Maybe rewatch an anime? Same thing, except it takes a bit of commitment.
>>229428163you are supposed to be liberal with your erections anon
>>229428178no, i just go back to certain bits, like i said
>>229428200actually you're supposed to be conservative for 2-3 days, also edging is based
>>229427023No. The best time it could have shown up was during a Schwaken epilogue, but...> der ewige Watanabe
>>229427074>>229427110Spain's leasing land in Morocco, France in Algeria.
>>229427635yesi've read the VNs and manga 2 or 3 times
So if BETA appears today, can we win?
>>229428326It all depends on what the first counterattack is.
>>229428326If we bombard the hive in its first stage before it can get the laser-class out, sure.
>>229428363Okay, 2 mother hives, 1 fell to center of china, and 1 in NORTH AMERICA ,1 month after the previous hive.
>>229428420>we get a good excuse to nuke the shit out of the US and Chinamaybe BETA aren't so bad after all...
>>229428420>center of chinaYeah, no, we're fucked. No way China would let anyone even come close to the thing until it's already too late.
>>229428420>>229428443I really don't want to get into /pol/shit but realistically China wouldn't say anything until it's too late
This kills the childhood friend.
>>229428326>NOT ALL BETA>BETA LIVES MATTER>STOP THE HATEwe have no chance
What's funny is china fucked off to taiwan asking for leasehold after being totally bested by BETA. Ironic.
so where is project michael
>>229428657You literally can't make this shit up.
>>229428326Depends on where the first hive lands, but I wouldn't expect our world to do much better than theirs. They at least had more than a decade fighting the BETA on the Moon, and had all the build-up of the Cold War to compensate. We have NATO at its weakest, Russia can't do shit on it's own, and the Chinks would act exactly the same way they did in Muvluv. But at least without author fiat, attack helicopters should be able to do most of what TSFs do, at least outside of the hives.
>>229416433>Serbia with Kosovo BASED
>>229428657>Jews and Arabs fighting together in the Suez
>>229428657On the brightside, the whole being stuck together on an island did a great job in unifying them. Team Bao-Feng didn't even seperate into commie and coomingtank.
TACHIAGARE KEDAKAKU MAE SADAME WO UKETA SENSHI YO
i'm pretty sure that counts as rape, they're ganging up on him too
>>229428830>middle eastern coalitionWow it's just like Battlefield 2
>>229428718this was pretty good too
>>229428808Âge used to be very based.
>>229428936>retaking the oil fieldsThis reminds me, it's been a long while since I've played Alternative or Unlimited, but did they ever what TSF runs on? Is it actually oil, I seem to rememberTSFs flying in and out of hanger to refuel.
>>229428326In muv-luv-verse humanity had like 7 or 9 years of lunar war to prepare, and they still get absolutely fucked. Also the military equipment level in muv-luv looks more like it happens in 2101, not 2001 - they have superlight steel, orbital fleet, mind-reading interfaces and so on.
>>229429022Is he a japanese in Muvluv? I got very confused when he was talking to Tama's father about being fellow japanese and all
>>229429087It's oil. In TDA01 they mention that while the ship carrier they're on can keep running since it's nuclear, the TSFs are running dangerously low on fuel.
>>229428806They didn't take the threat seriously and were fucking around for decades while fighting among themselvesWhile in our world the information spreads instantly and we're essentially ruled by one world government that will not hesitate to nuke whatever shithole the first hive lands on off the face of the earth. Assuming the nukes are real of course, but even if they aren't I'm sure ZOG can handle it just with the stuff we have stockpiled right now, while using the invasion as a convenient excuse to strip people of their rights
>>229429128>Is he a japanese in Muvluv?I think not, in AF they explicitly said he was Indian, but who knows. Maybe there were writing oversights and it isn't consistent.
>>229429128I'm pretty sure he isn't Japanese.
>>229423706I mean you *could* run it in a Windows XP VM, I know that's how I ran it in 2013 on my Linux computer. I doubt you'll find that comfortable though.
DO WHAT I WANTDO WHAT I NEED
>>229428806>attack helicopters should be able to do most of what TSFs doLike fly into the beta rear at a speed close to speed of sound, using jet engines?
>>229428721michael jackson will get delayed again
>FAMAS>For Anime and Manga Armed ShootersSeems appropriate.
>>229429445A shitty old Harrier could do that, and in this kind of fight ammo capacity and ease of operation are the only things that matter so all the new fancy shit would get replaced by cold war era tech after the first couple of weeksTSFs make no sense strategically, like ok, you can deploy them faster but they still run out of ammo and what do you do when that happens? The numbers you can field are pathetically low compared to conventional stuff and you'll constantly have to rotate them to resupply, you'll never have enough to cover a significant portion of the frontlineAnd in terms of tactics it makes more sense to just carpet bomb lasers with long range artillery instead of chasing them with TSFs anyway and helicopters can handle the rest
>>229430560They can shoot down artillery shells. Have you played the VN?
>>229430814Not if your artillery shells split into hundreds of smaller artillery shells
>>229430561uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurgh this is nauseatingly bad, imagine chomp with a fade to this fucking song kek
>>229430855How early do you expect your shells to split up and still hit their targets for the intended effect?
>>229430944DO WHAT I WANTDO WHAT I NEED
>>229423307>The CIA are huge pieces of shit though.Never forget what the glowies did to my man Walken all because he had a latina wife
>>229424050I just have to ask since I wasn't browsing /a/ during this time how did /a/ react to chomp
what the actual fuck is going on in this show. getting whiplash from the change in tone.
>>229431549Being the third part of a trilogy that didn't adapt the first two parts might have something to do with it. Do you like reading?
>>229431052Like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_HNP3qO03chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnd3IYH7x1oKeep in mind that the thing you're shooting at has no kind of protection or preventative measures whatsoever
>>229425470Properly animated Lacross would be refreshing and interesting to see
>>229430814Then keep shooting.
>>229410884The FAMAS is the coolest weapon to exist on Earth.I'm French so I would know.
>>229431549Read the VN.
>>229431306SoL series about the passionate upstart Soldier-kun working his way up in hive society when?
>>229431660The cluster bomb would be shot before it even have time to released it's payload.
>>229431660If it happens like in the videos, the planes would be shot down as soon as they passed over the horizon. You'd have to drop them from orbit and somehow prevent them from burning up in the atmosphere.
>>229431764As long as it's about your picture and not the harem vibes this episode gave off.
>>229431901sorry, you're already filtered.
>>229430560>what do you do when that happens?You resupply them in the field? They do this all the time in the VN, hell, you even see it happen in Total Eclipse and Schmergenbergen.
>>229431901I like the harem vibes.
>>229431901Harem hijinks is half the fun.
it's pointless to argue about the lasers. they are a plot device to make sure the beta doesnt get rolled. any weapon you can think of, the answer is lasers will shoot it down.
>>229431785>>229431868You simply stuff your artillery shells with them and try to saturate the enemy defenses while employing the same distraction tactics you would need to use anyway if you don't want your TSFs to get shot down
>>229432058TSF is the answer
>>229432058But can the lasers shoot down your TSF?
>>229432044I found those in TE just annoying and this is coming from someone who enjoyed Extra
>>229431686Oh no! You're out of ammo and the BETA just keep coming! Unit leaders scream through comms for more fire support as their comrades get fucking destroyed!
>>229432086Here the thing. They already do saturation shelling but even then it's not enough to take care of any substential damage to a BETA wave. It serve as a good distraction for the Lasers class to focus on, so it make the laserjagd easier for the TSF.So in a sense they already do what you are suggesting but it's cleary not enough.
>>229432107>>229432159I mean, yes? First episode showed one get shot down
>>229432107This might be the sexiest TSF in ML
>>229432260Get new ammo and continue to shoot. If your saturation bombardment isn't getting through, get more cannons and shells.
>>229432086>employing the same distraction tacticsThe artillery shells ARE the distraction tactics. You do raise a somewhat good point, however; I've never seen cluster or air burst bombs being used in Muv Luv, even when there are no laser classes present, always made me wonder why they overlooked it. It's always just good ol' HE spam, which seems somewhat counterintuitive.
>>229432086>try to saturate the enemyAnd this is where your plan falls apart. The BETA's greatest strength is in its numbers.
>>229432278Then any excuses about lasers immediately shooting down whatever you throw at them are complete bullshit, because they clearly can't shoot down all TSFs as soon as they appear so it's just a plot device to justify the cool flying robots and makes no sense
>>229432396>I've never seen cluster or air burst bombs being used in Muv LuvHave you played the VN?
>>229432396I remember seing them use cluster in some CG or anime, don't remember.
>>229421872what is the point in having soo much space in the back if it's not gonna be used, the distance of the bullets and the end of the cannon is really small, this gun would work better if it worked like a bullpup and it would not block the iron sight
>>229432471>VN>playedYes, I've read most installments, multiple times, have you?>>229432477There's probably been a few air burst shots, I guess, but nothing to indicate that it's what it's actually happening, much less actual cluster bombs from what I can recall.
>>229432542They use P90 type magazine so you can't really but the big ass mag futher behind without hindering the second mag.
>>229432452You do know what TSF stands for, right? They engage at surface level. Any hothead that flies even a handful of meters above ground level for longer than a few seconds gets fried.
>>229432452Read the vn
>>229432405You saturate the anti-air defenses with unreasonably high amounts of tiny bombs. They'd have to shoot down every single one of them, and any bomb that goes through will do a lot of damage because their targets are 3m tall tightly grouped walking ballsacks, which makes it easier and easier to do damage as enemy AA defenses sustain more losses and get weakerLasers are not THAT numerous and once they're out, the rest don't pose a threat, and if they could 100% shoot down anything that moves above ground then TSFs wouldn't work anyway so there's clearly a limit on how much they can do imposed by their numbers and rate of fire, you just need to go above that limit and you win
I recommend watching the Sadogashima battle to get an understanding of how the warfare works in the VN.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvSYy7b7x6o
>>229428326>Modern military that is counter insurgency oriented with Super Tucano and APCs being sufficient for most of their duties>Most of NATO already sold off almost all their conventional hardwareOutside UN security council members most countries would struggle to field a dozen M113 or BMP or even have stocks of cluster munition.Even modern day American drone attacks is nothing compared to the scale of Laos bombing.
>>229432649Ah that's why it has two barrels, I tough it was a one shot granade launcher on top. Now I fucking understand
>>229432278>shitty anime original doing shitty anime original thingsWow, who could've thought.Going by VN, once laser classes are spotted, all pilots in the close area get first class laser warning.Then, after your craft gets hit by preliminary laser irradiation, sensors pick it up and it takes automatic evasion manure.And even if it's still not enough, anti-laser coating and ablative armor together can withstand small laser class' shot for about 5 seconds.
>>229432452TSF's combat laser classes with mobility. Once a laser class has a lock on you, it's generally impossible to avoid getting hit, unless you move closer to the source of the laser where your evasive maneuvers become harder for it to track. Laser class will also prioritize flying objects over targets on the surface. TSF's also have a 5 second leeway against smaller laser class, with their armor being anti-laser.
>>229432883>Super Tucano and APCsThose are literary perfect, you don't need any fancy guided missiles to fight the BETAJust close down all your iphone factories and focus your production on synthetic fuels and ammunition, and you're goodKeep in mind that countries like russia still have tens of thousands of "obsolete" armor still in operational condition
>>229432849You will run out of ordinance far before they run out of lasers, much less fodder BETA that are easily replenish, retard.
Burgers have better TSF gun
>>229422402Tale as old as time...
Just build cruise missiles that can approach Laser-class while flying low enough or fast enough to hit in the six-second window.
>>229410884If only people liked my gunfu better
Frodo need to read the codex
>>229433341Why does the laser class look like a hairy ballsack with eyes?
I really wanna have a burger or two.
>>229433515she looks fat
cant they just copy-paste it or something?
>>229433323>mobilityBut even shitty vietnam era jets could go supersonic at sea level and they have much smaller profile than those huge robots, while modern drones keep getting smaller and smaller so it seems kind of dumb
>>229433351Modern fire and forget top attack anti tank missiles would be useful to decimate destroyer charge but I don't think most military in the planet can afford tens of thousands of dollars per missile shot for every destroyer.Even those ATGMs in Yemen war is like 3000dollars each.
>>229433431>>229433572>>229433628I fucking hate that I were poor student while the KS was a thing. Now I'll never get physical codex.At least there's reprints of kits and that 1/4 bunny figure of worst girl that still hasn't sold out.
>>229433735Size doesn't matter. If you haven't noticed, they can literally pinpoint the location of something as small as a shell from 200km away and blow it out of the sky
>>229433515G3 is my favorite rifle.
>>229422370>the most evil military on the planetAmerican Army?
>>229421107It's not this
>>229433418>You will run out of ordinance far before they run out of lasersIf the mechs can deal with lasers in a matter of minutes, then there can't possibly be that many of them, just bring more ordnance, bro>retardno u
>>229433829Got some money from internships so I was lucky to have enough money for the codex. Now I wish I was crazy enough to go as far as getting the dakis.
>>229433902>If the mechs can deal with lasers in a matter of minutesBut they can't. They have to specifically plan around each individual situation how to take out the lasers, and then do it when the timing is perfect, otherwise they are guaranteed to get overrun.
>>229433711the context in the two scenes is different, so them looking sad/depressed actually makes sense
>>229434017>But they can't>proceed to do it anyway
>>229433902Learn how laserjagd works.
>>229433735So how will an airplane or drone evade a laser that has a lock on them? Duck behind a hill? Get a Fort/grappler/destroyer class in between them? Instantly change movement vector since they're so maneuverable?
>>229433902>guy who clearly haven't read the vn, but acts smug while continuously outing himself as a retard, calling other people retardedIs this the Dunning-Kruger effect?
Did you guys get anything from Kickstarter?
>>229433902You are fucking stupid. I won't address your points because the shit coming out of a retards mouth is not worth responding to Instead of being a retard, read the vn you stupid fucking nigger.
>>229421450I just think of Frontline Force.
>>229434127First Muv Luv thread? Frodos have been here from the start. It's pretty entertaining, honestly.
>>229434156I got the Marimo daki
>>229410884>FAMASThat is UZI 9 milimetas!
>>229434076What I'm saying is that they can only engage the laser class in combat for a very brief moment. They can't kill all of them in that small timeframe.
>>229434111Drones and light attack helicopters can do all that. Fighters might too, but that would be difficult to do at high speed.
>>229434156150€ reward with with the sumika figure and the shikishi.
>>229434211No, people asking stupid questions is normal occurrence. But you don't get a guy getting mad defending his fantasies every day.
>>229434111>Instantly change movement vector since they're so maneuverableYes
>>229422894did you miss the 'robot guns' part.robots don't need to look through the sight.
>>229433746I wouldn't put too much value to the price of weapons in total war. Monetary economy largely breaks down by then, and even discounting that, economies of scale would drop the cost sharply.
>>229434417Damn that Codex was cheap.
>>229433735You can't send unmanned craft into a hive, it blocks wireless communication.
>>229434353Damn, guess you should just get rid of all ground vehicles and troops and super maneuverable cool ass robots and just use helicopters and a few fighters, then, can't believe it was that easy.>>229434422Impressive. What do you call a maneuver where a plane instantly reverses the direction in which it's travelling? Like, doing an instant 180 and start going back the way it came from?
>>229434417Not caring about muv luv when the Kickstarter first started will forever be one of my biggest regrets
>>229434772Being a poor bum fuck third worlder who saw everything go by without any hope of getting anything out of it except the hope of more translated material was hell.
>>229434772why the FUCK won't they continue printing the codex? do they not like money? are they mentally ill?
>>229434612>What do you call a maneuver where a plane instantly reverses the direction in which it's travellingIt's called a wingover, baka
Is this autismo going to carry her sword everywhere? Even in TSF?
we cant win
>>229434890Yes, she had it with her in ops. Though unlike certain half-breed, hers wasn't taped to the wall of the cockpit.
>>229434862Ah, of course, a steep climb to lose all that useless speed so you can sort of turn on a nickel. That'll definitely shake the laser pointer off you, easily, right? How much longer are you going to keep up this retardation?
>>229434612Probably not all ground vehicles, you can have lightened IFVs for manoeuvre warfare and of course shitton of artillery. Super manoeuvrable cool ass robots need not apply, though - either they can't exist, or you can use the technology for super manoeuvrable cool ass helicopters.
How many animeonly anons are watching this?
>>229434994Hold up, are you telling me a TSF won't lose all its speed by>doing an instant 180 and start going back the way it came from?Because I'm pretty sure planes are better at maintaining speed when they turn
>>229435133And the turn radius?
>>229435039>super manoeuvrable cool ass helicopterswould watch this, japanese cartoons desperately need more helicopters
>>229421823>the capital have to discuss for 5 hours before decidingare you fucking serious, what a piece of crap of """organization""">>229419604I'm not watching it, I'm just here to shitpost if that makes you feel better
>>229435310Laws of physics tell me that you can't have both even if you're a fancy flying robot
>>229435039Ok, but how will the IFVs and super maneuverable choppers infiltrate and capture hives?
>>229435422Theoretically, yes, it'll lose all its speed before it starts going back the opposite way, but it can do that and start doubling back much much faster than a plane that needs to take a wide turn to do so, or bleed a bunch of speed on a steep climb to pull off a similar maneuver.>>229435133That's where your suspension of disbelief has to kick in Mr Frodo, because the TSFs can pull off just that since they're designed for it.
>>229435073absolute bullshitt. aeronautical eng
>>229416276Truth.>>229417904The fucking Cycloid Emperor could wave around his dick at the UN building in New York, and still they would do absolutely fuckall.>>229421107Inherently, nothing, the rifle works very well, but France shut down the production for it decades ago, and have been relying on cannibalizing rifles for parts to keep guns in use, which isn't going to last forever. The barrels also will not properly stabilize SS109 projectiles, which is less helpful when they're pals with NATO (even if they aren't part of it).It lacks good faculties for optics and attachments as well, which modern soldiers like using.>>229421852The M16A1 outperforms the F1 and G2.>>229422225Colt is almost out of the M4 game, they lost the US Army contract to FN. Colt is a very inept company.
>>229435648/k/bro why didn't G3 take off? Was it too heavy?
>>229435643>aeronautical engThat explains your unholy autism. I can respect that.
>>229434849It's normal for japanese to do that dumb shit.
>>229435429One way is to just go in and shoot everything that crawls out of the tunnels, which would admittedly suck and cause a lot of casualties. It's not impossible if you manage to actually secure your logistics against the hive and the tunnels are big enough for helicopters (especially super manoeuvrable ones) to fly in.But fuck that, I say it's better to either fly a hypersonic nuclear missile through the shaft before Laser-class fire upon it or just nuke your own tunnel straight from the surface to the reactor.
>>229435852>still advocating for basically Alternative V methodsDon't you faggots ever learn?
>>229435735German autism and sold fal license like candy.
>>229422785The FAMAS is probably a lot better than the Tavor, given that the Tavor shoots at like 8MOA or something obscenely wide like that.>>229424882I can see it happening with old and tired guns, and old and tired magazines. It should have been replaced 20 years ago.>>229422423>UN>conservativeThey're virulently anti-gun and virulently pro-mass-immigration.
>>229435735What do you mean didn't take off? The G3 was sold to a number of countries, it just wasn't AS popular as the FAL.
>>229434156Amongst other things. I would have gotten myself some of those MiGs as well, but at the time I didn't have the disposable income for it.
>>229435884Good to know that nuclear bombs are not going to go "lol gravity" and somehow sink a continent.
>>229436069That's an MG-3 numbnuts. Well, who cares, we all know it's the same thing.
>>229436059Nuclear bombs do basically nothing against betards. You can't deploy them from the air, and ground explosions are only able to destroy small strains near the center of explosion. Forts and destroyers will keep on walking as if nothing happened.
>>229436220I am not advocating for their use as an anti-horde weapon (though it can be useful if laser-class are destroyed), I am using them either as payload for an anti-reactor missile or as digging equipment.
I can't believe Sumikafags simply gave uphttp://poal.me/lkdeughttp://poal.me/lkdeug
>>229436420And how would you carry them to reactor chamber? And before you say TSF, japanese ones are already equipped with tactical nukes precisely for that purpose.
>>229436625>Mikoto 3Absolutely plebeian.