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It's guaranteed that someone is going to be a jobber in the next movie. Predict who it is and how they will embarrass themselves.
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this cringy edgelord Homura will get beaten the fuck out by CHADyaka
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>>229360156
Hitomi will beat Homura back into being Moemura
Moemura will marry Tatsuya, give birth to many children and raise them as proper catholics who know better than to sell their souls to satan.
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>>229360156
Homura will beat herself being a yandere bitch then cry and be hugged by Madoka
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>>229360549
Sounds good to me.
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>>229360365
Her, because she can regenerate.
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>>229360156
Kyouko will try and stop Sayaka from undoing Homura's new world and re-killing herself. She'll then proceed to lose a fight she should have easily been able to handle
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>>229360156
The only one who’s still yet to job is Kyouko, so her.
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>>229361433
She's just going to get beaten down harder.
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best ship
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>>229360156
Obligatory.
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>>229364463
She'll look badass as hell while it's happening though
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>>229360156
I am expecting the worst for Mami. She jobbed in the series, was unstoppable in Rebellion, and it could swing back to her jobbing again in Kaiten. She's probably going to get overconfident and lose to a Clara doll of all things.
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>>229365551
Mami is the strongest meguca, she'll be fine.
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>>229360773
I want to see Homura and Madoka hug again in Kaiten. This is all I want.
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Madoka will win because she's a Mary Sue
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>>229366300
She just got made completely powerless as of the end of Rebellion.
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I LOVE SAKURA KYOUKO!
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>>229360156
Sayaka is always the jobber
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>>229366629
Captain Marvel got fucked for like 5 minutes too but that's just an illusion
Madoka is a blatant Sue whether you understand what that means or not
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>>229366919
It will be different this time.
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>>229366975
I'm not sure you understand what it means. A Mary Sue is a character that is too perfect. That is both in personality, in power, in social situations, and so on.

Madoka is powerless for a huge part of the series. A Mary Sue would never be weakened for as long as she was.
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>>229367045
Yeah I'm too lazy to explain shit to you
It's just not that simple summer child, I'm out
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>>229367165
Madoka is not a Mary Sue. It's not even close. If you want to talk it over more I don't have a problem with that, but all I see here is that maybe you don't get exactly what that label represents.
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>>229360156
Watch the movie be fucking garbage kek
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>>229360156
I predict Madoka will be the jobber. Late in the story she gets her powers back, and even with her godhood she fights and starts losing against Homura until the other girls come in to help her and save the day.

Crackpot prediction I know.
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Sayadumb will lose for good.
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>>229367706
Madoka no, don't stray from the light of neoliberalism
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>>229365551
Mami will keep getting played up to make up for how badly she got shafted in the show.
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>>229367987
That's not the only entry where she got screwed over either.
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>>229367706
>Brazilian communists like Madoka
What the fuck I hate Madoka now?
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>>229368750
Support Kyubey instead, he did nothing wrong.
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My wife will job.
She's good at her job.

I wish she wouldn't job, though.
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>>229369300
Homura will beat her up and then throw her into a containment cell for the rest of the movie
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>>229369546
I would not like that.
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I'm a Homufag but I can't stop thinking about Sayaka.
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>>229369557
Sayaka will suffer and you will like it.
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>>229360365
Fitting, Sayaka is Archangel Michael to Homura's Lucifer
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>>229370884
Cute!
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>>229369237
I'd rather support Q*bert
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>>229370884
cute cheese gremlin
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>>229369237
>Muh utility
>Muh universe
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/u/schizos will ne BTFO etermally
Walpurgisnacht will beat the shit out of Homura and it will be fucking AWESOME
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>>229371628
I have no idea what Walpurgis is doing in this movie. I do hope it won't be a rematch against Homura though, we already had that.
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>>229371834
We've seen one rematch, yes, but what about second rematch?
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>>229360365
Sounds like someone needs to forget her place...
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>>229360156
Homura obviously and I will laugh my ass at her.
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Don't show this to homura
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>>229360773
The Homuras of past loops will return to fight Homusatan, who will nearly succeed in beating them all until the very first original Homura successfully grenades her.
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>>229373310
Why do you inflict this image on me? Don't show this to me either.
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Sayak
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>>229366901
Kyouko will always be cool. Even if she jobs in the movie.
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>>229367297
NTA, but adding on this point.

The original Mary Sue fanfic isn't even that long (two paragraphs). It lays out the parody of what was endemic to fanfics. The Mary Sue was the absirdly perfect author self insert that absolutely everyone deferred to, even characters in Star Trek that are considerred the top of their field. Madoka ticks none of these boxes. She's often overruled and characters ignore her desires and do what they think is in her interest. Homura and Sayaka do it throughout the TV series, which directly leads to rebellion.
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>>229364983
Homura getting tied up yet again should be on the new movie bingo board
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>>229361353
I can't wait to see what Hitomi ends up doing in Kaiten, if the rumors about her having a big role are true.
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>>229375221
Isn't it Mami as Guan Yu?
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>>229373901
Begin preflight checks
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>>229373310
what is she doing
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>>229375221
What rumours? Regardless, I have a hard time imagining that happen. What would she even do?
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>>229360156
Happy 1st Anniversary SC MagiReco.
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>>229375934
Making Mami happy.
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>>229376061
i do not seem to understand
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>>229375939
>What would she even do?
becom meguca
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>>229367706
I hope the monkey who made this dies.
t. monkey
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My theory: Homura will lose. Assuming that the plot goes like something along the lines of the Horus Heresy, Homura will initially defeat and destroy the reluctant Madoka and her allies. However, as she was driven to insanity as the God of Chaos, she will do something utterly irredeemable. This will push Madoka to do the one thing she could never do, the most painful decision she could ever think of: push aside her compassion and summon all her cosmic powers to euthanise Homura, her most beloved, out of existence.

To think about it, the Horus Heresy provides a great template for the inevitable Madoka-Homura conflict. Lots of suffering, tragedy and drama. Even the names "Horus" and "Homura" rhyme, and their motives are similar: Horus wasn't loved by the Emperor enough so he destroyed the Imperium, Homura wasn't loved by Madoka enough so she destroyed the Universe. I bet Urobuchi plays 40k, but considering that he is well read in all things grimdark, it's an entire possibility.

I based this off the "Homura Heresy" theory here:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion
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>>229360365
Yeah my moneys on this
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>>229365237
Maybe the movie will rip off the regeneration abilities from undead unluck
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>>229360156
>homura
>MY HOMURA
>USING AN ITODDLER
TAKE IT BACK!
TAKE IT THE FUCK BACK!
MY HOMU CAN GOOGLE HOW TO CREATE HOME MADE EXPLOSIVES
SHE IS NOT AN ITODDLER!
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>>229367045
stop giving shitters who don't think madoka is the best character (you)s
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>>229377532
This, madoka is a radical antifemanist
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>>229378962
>Homura will initially defeat and destroy the reluctant Madoka
Homu would never do anything to hurt Madoka, her only motivation in the series was always just to make her happy.
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Stop ruining the board ack.
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>>229371628
Homura stop posting this please.
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>>229375221
if they make hitomi a meguca it will be the proof that the series has lost its way. Hitomi literally exists to be the heteronormative nadeshiko. Making her also a magical girl would be an inordinate level of bullshit.
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>>229360156
As for the jobber, I forgot to mention, even though I like Sayaka for her valor, she will definitely be the jobber. Her role will basically be Sanguinius to Homura's Horus. She will kick a lot of daemon ass but upon confroting the Arch-Traitor herself she will be martyred. This will provide Madoka (the Emperor) the motive to fight Homura.
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>>229379145
Homura is a Yandere. Yanderes have made even their own beloved ones suffer for the sake of love. Openly embracing Chaos had made her insane, so it is entirely in her mind to make Madoka her possession - by any means possible, even if the Universe may be damned.

This is another way to explore the Homura-Sayaka contrast. Sayaka is a person who, through Madoka's grace, learned to move on from her previous possessive crush for Kyousuke and instead embrace her new role as a completely selfless Angel of Justice (hence the Archangel Michael parallels). Of course she will be the most disgusted by Homura's actions, for she knows this isn't love, but rather Possession, her very own Cardinal Sin.
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>>229379440
Anon you have very strange perceptions of what magical girls are. It seems like you are super imposing the idea of godliness and christianity onto them, meanwhile, the actual christians in this story are all batshit crazy, homura and kyouko.

More over, the actual value system and purpose of the law of cycles is to defy the will of god that women should be subserviant inferiors that do as they are told. Rather than be protected and live or die at the behest of forces they can't understand, they grasp power for themselves and live and die on that basis alone. Homura is the one that represents a return to form from that violation of the natural order. She carefully puts her dolls back in the dollhouse where they belong instead of letting them play the masculine role, subjecting herself entirely to its machinations and shielding madoka from knowledge and agency.
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>>229379499
>>229379499
>the actual christians in this story are all batshit crazy, homura and kyouko.
Homura definitely is, but Kyoko isn't. she's a survivor who witnessed how fanaticism destroyed her family.

>More over, the actual value system and purpose of the law of cycles is to defy the will of god that women should be subserviant inferiors that do as they are told. Rather than be protected and live or die at the behest of forces they can't understand, they grasp power for themselves and live and die on that basis alone.
You have it backwards. Before Madoka There was NO God. It was pure survival of the fittest, the rule of the Food Chain. Humans feed Witches, Witches feed Puellae, and Puellae feed Incubators. It was a completely amoral, Darwinian and utilitarian system. Puellae literally had to fight each other for the most grief seeds, or they are inevitably doomed to be witches.

Madoka taking over changed all of that. She made the ultimate sacrifice that both preserve the harmony of the Universe (the production of energy to resist entropy) as well as save the Puellae from damnation. That is, by becoming a God and absorbing the despair of the Puellae and the universe into Herself. This was how Sayaka was saved and became her Archangel. Madoka may have not want it personally, but performing the ultimate sacrifice inspite of that desire made her a Messiah figure.

>Homura is the one that represents a return to form from that violation of the natural order. She carefully puts her dolls back in the dollhouse where they belong instead of letting them play the masculine role, subjecting herself entirely to its machinations and shielding madoka from knowledge and agency.
If Darwinism was the natural order then yes. But Homura is mistaken. Does she even understand Chaos or Entropy? How she risked destroying the unstable construct that is her universe for her own selfish gains? How she became an abomination who finds it better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven?
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>>229373901
A bak.
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>>229360156
Anyone from Magia Record if they dare to show their faces
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Devil Madoka
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>>229381933
But how?
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>>229381440
A best!
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America will bring justice to these satanists. God bless the US Armed forces, our allies the JSDF. Homura will pay for her kleptomania
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>>229380156
I always felt that Madoka Magica was an exploration into the evolution of morality. Like you said, before Madoka, there was no higher purpose, much like chaos. Then, Madoka ascended, and provided what is essentially order, which opposes entropy. In Rebellion, Homura defied order, and birthed evil into the universe. The question left for Kaiten to answer is "What's after evil?" I feel, personally, that Kaiten is going to tackle Nietzhe's Ubermensche proposition, in that, the non-godlike magical girls will forsake both Homura and Madoka, and create their own values and rediscover their agency. Not something I exactly agree with, but it would make for a great premise.
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>>229378962
I don't want to ever see Madoka having to kill Homura. Thankfully I don't think it will come to that.
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>>229378962
The Rebellion movie is a heresy in itself. It's not whether Homura is a heretic. It is only those who accepted the Rebellion premise that are heretics. Which includes those who anticipates its sequel.

>>229383379
This. An interesting and coherent theory, except that Homura's defiance bring greater peace and prosperity to the world. That strange and disgusting twist. A twist that bestow the player with infinite power that can control everyone's life and death in this world. Like an isekai all-powerful protagonist.

Dragging Nietzsche's superman into this seems to lower the vision that Nietzsche was having. A life-affirming stance, a ceaseless striving for what's beyond the human capacity. It's never designed to analogize these wish-fulfilling pipedream.

To destroy the life affirming stance which Madoka had, is probably what Nietzsche would like to see. That disgusting and perverse twist, diminishes the value of friendship, faith, and human striving.

---

Who have killed God? Who have killed Madoka? All of you are murderers! And what can wipe these blood from your hand?
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>>229384092
*would not like
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>>229383309
She's not returning those guns. It's for a good cause.
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>>229378962
Can 40kfags ever just get off other series's dick? Shit at this point you're clit-riding.
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>>229384845
No. Madoka protects.
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>>229379136
Madoka: Centrist
Mami: Libertarian
Sayaka: Neoliberal
Kyouko: Conservative
Homura: Nazbol
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>>229360156
Devil Homura gets gangbanged by a bunch of QBs. Or gets tied up by Mami as always and gets raped by her huge futa cock.
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>>229385932
>Devil Homura gets gangbanged by a bunch of QBs
Literally impossible. Kyubey is Homu's plaything now.
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>>229370318
Can Archangel Michael actually kill Lucifer though?
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AKEMI will FUCK Sayaka next film.
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>>229382566
Don’t think too hard, Sayak. You might short-circuit!
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>>229367706
basado
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>>229387798
The only thing Homura will be fucking is Madoka’s pussy.
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>>229388388
Thinking about Madoka somehow becoming a devil is making ME short circuit
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>>229379189
Surely Sayaka can't job yet again. Her time to win must be coming soon
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>>229379175
There's nothing wrong with giving Hitomi a bigger role. It would help expand her character too.
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>>229379499
Homura is christien?
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>>229367706
I can't believe it would be possible to hate my country even more
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>>229393948
sasuga speedwatcher-kun
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>>229394016
??
Not the guy you replied to but I don't remember that being a thing
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>>229379440
Homura and Sayaka are truly opposites in every way. I hope they keep making this rivalry more of a thing.
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>>229394281
She mentions coming from a Christian girls school in her backstory episode I think
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>>229395115
Yep. Episode 1, when all the random background girls are asking her questions.
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>>229381829
Butcher will stop them. I don't think he cares at all about any of the spin off stories
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>>229393948
and catholic at that, the most evil flavor of christian
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>>229395115
That doesn't necessarily mean she herself is Christian though
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>>229395992
It's implied I guess? But it's true that she never shows any other sign of being religious.
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>>229390355
>thinking Homura will score
She will never escape the friend zone.
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>>229396060
I honestly think that bit was left in just as foreshadowing to the plot of the series.
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Anon will bitch and moan when the MagiReco girls show up and save the day.
Thus, Anon will embarrass himself.
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>>229397124
Realistically there's like a 1 in 5 chance of there being even just a cameo of a magireco girl in the new movie.
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>>229383379
>the non-godlike magical girls will forsake both Homura and Madoka, and create their own values and rediscover their agency
This is basically MagiReco, though. I don't think that will happen.
I can easily see Dialectics type of situation with a Thesis, Antithesis and Synthesis, in which Madoka's solution is the Thesis, Homura's actions the Antithesis and the real solution (which might be achieved, or not, in Kaiten) will be the Synthesis.

>>229397589
It is extremely unlikely indeed, but in the extremely off chance it happens, then I can only begin to imagine how much /a/ will bitch about it.
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>>229395626
Nope
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>>229397124
I hate MagiReco, I hate MagiReco
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>>229398057
I love MagiReco, I love MagiReco
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>>229398051
Based Christfag.
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>>229396456
She just had to cut with the crap and go straight into raping Madoka.
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>>229397982
I'm not sure what's going to happen. One of the big questions is are they going to try and wrap the story up or will it be a more open ending that allows for another continuation?
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>>229396967
There sure is a fair bit of religion in Madoka. More than most stories you see these days at least.
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>>229375939
I don't know. I think I heard somewhere that Hitomi Nagisa and Mami would have bigger roles in the new movie but that's all secondhand hearsay.
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>>229398942
Considering Urobuchi wrote the script for this movie around 2014, and that he doesn't seem to have written anything else about this story ever since, I would think this movie will conclude this part of the franchise.
Furthermore, the story about Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica is pretty much the story about Homura and Madoka, and their stories have essentially been told completely. What their story needs is something to wrap it up. I mean, the TV Series was complete in its own way, and from what I've read Rebellion wasn't originally meant to change anything, as Homura was supposed to join the Law of Cycles like any other mahou shoujo at the end, but then the creators thought that was an unfair ending for Homura and also for Madoka, so they changed things so that Homura would rebel at the end, which left us where we are now.

Thus why I don't think Kaiten will simply end with Homura being defeated as some big bad, and then things going to how they were pre-Rebellion, considering that the creators themselves regarded that Homura's rebellion was necessary. The issue here is that it's hard to tell what exactly is going to happen, since we still have no idea what Homura did to the world, whether the LoC still works, and what exactly is Homura's plan. All we have is some PV for the concept movie, which probably was based on the script that is being used for Kaiten, but that PV tells us very, very little.
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>>229400552
The only thing I disagree with here is that I'm not as confident as you are that the movie won't leave a possibility for continuation. It's true we probably can't go back to the series ending anymore.
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>>229375221
you don't really think green mugi will have a big role do you?
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>>229400962
I mean, they could try to keep milking the main story, but it would be a bad idea, considering that, as I said before, the OG story is about Homura and Madoka and their stories are quite complete. All their stories need is a conclusion. Not to mention that, as far as we know, Urobuchi hasn't written anything else for the OG story, so unless Magica Quartet considers they can keep dragging the story without Urobuchi then it's quite unlikely they'll add anything more to it.
Also, if they want to keep milking the franchise they have MagiReco, and with the Mirror Witch, they can do a fuckton of stories from a million universes if so they want. Furthermore, OG Homura and OG Madoka can keep showing up. In MagiReco we've seen Ultimate Madoka a couple of times. We're likely to see Akuma Homura at some point, and if both of them remain as ascended beings post-Kaiten, then there's no reason why they can't keep making cameos in every other story.
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>>229369237
I support him being tossed into the nearest blender.
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>>229401587
you wouldn't actually hut cute little qb would you? Without him we wouldn't have this
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>>229401825
The blender would do all the hurting, I would simply be pressing a button.
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All megucas are for incubator cock only
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>>229360156
>using the jobber term on Madoka

This place has really degraded, hasn't it
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>>229401587
Does he get to eat it afterwards though?
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>>229402004
It's fun.
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>>229402080
Sure. And I get to press the button again while he is.
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>>229401825
I want to feed this Kyouko cake and tea!
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>>229379970
>>229395717
Reminder to stay in YOUR threads MadoKucks
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>>229402898
That's a falseflagger, just ignore him.
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>>229392972
Soon Sayaka.
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>>229385932
>her huge futa cock
Is that why Mami has no friends nor a bf?
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>>229404178
It's certainly possible.
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>>229404178
It would explain how Holy Mami turned all those magical girls into zombies. She literally fucked them silly.
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>>229370884
Where is this from?
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>>229401587
I see not everyone can appreciate the wonders of utilitarianism.
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>>229402898
no
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>>229406341
Utilitarianism is great until its the people YOU care about getting the chop.
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>>229406430
I seriously doubt you are an actual Madokafag.
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>>229371834
The Fury vs Wilder III of Magical Girl fights
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>>229406691
It's probably that one autist that likes to try and disrupt every Madoka thread he sees, I guess since he has been getting less and less attention he decided to try and start a conflict with other fanbases to do the work for him.
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>>229406823
I wonder how many months and years it will take for him to realize that he's wasting his time and has accomplished virtually nothing with all the things he's done.
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>>229360156
At this point I've shipped each of the Holy Quintet with each other.
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>>229406617
What if they're all okay with getting the chop?
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>>229407331
Then you are probably a Kyubey. I suppose utilitarianism is optimal for them after all.
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>>229407404
But QB never tells them the full implications of the contract, so the girls are never okay with anything.
I meant, what if, despite knowing the full terms and conditions, they're still okay with the contract, either because they want their wish that much, or because they want to do it for the greater good?
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>>229407523
Yeah I mean utilitarianism is actually optimal for Kyubey's species because they are a hivemind with no emotions so none of them have a problem with sacrificing anything for all the others
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>>229395613
>>229381829
>>229397124
>>229397589
>>229397982

Butcher isn't writing the story, only dropped the script and left. Can't wait for the MagiReco girls to show up. They are the best.

>>229398057
>>229398191
I love MagiReco. Play it every day.
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Does anyone have that Rebellion infographic explainer that goes into detail about Homu's motivations?
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>>229407829
Ok, what about Madoka then? She sacrificed herself to be able to modify the Mahou Shoujo system and eliminate Witches.
This has benefited all Mahou Shoujo, regardless of the timeline they live in (with the sole exception of the MagiReco timeline, but that's not her fault). Sayaka and Nagisa are clearly okay with that.
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>>229407994
I don't have it but maybe someone else does. Have a Homu though.
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>>229407994
Is this what you're looking for?
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>>229408806
exactly, yes! thanks anon.
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>>229408806
This is great, but I don't think it accounts much for Homura's actions during the Wraith Arc (which is canon according to Shinbo). In that story she seemed okay with protecting Madoka's legacy, but it seems at some point she came to regret it.
I wonder if we'll ever see the point in which she considered that letting Madoka become a concept was wrong.
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>>229408030
Madoka to me is the counterpoint to utilitarianism. Her sacrifice to save the magical girls is about protecting the individual who is sacrificed for the greater whole. It's a statement that everyone matters.
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>>229409328
But it's the same as with QB, just that you agree with the cause, isn't it?
Either way you're sacrificing an individual (or several) for the greater good. It's just that you prefer one greater good over the other one.
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Why didn’t Mami just rape Nagisa?
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>>229409595
Trying to avoid jail
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>>229407331
In the situation where it's people I care about?
Then I'm not ok with it. Particularly in the case of being persuaded by a manipulative space rat.
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>>229410333
read
>>229407523
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>>229409574
I don't consider Madoka's sacrifice to be utilitarianism because it's something she did on her own accord.
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>>229407954
That makes it sound like he didn't do anything. Him dropping the script means he wrote it.
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>>229410916
He wrote the script in 2014 then left, he won't be there for the rest of the process, and there won't be anymore changes to the script.
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>>229410672
Which is why I posted
>>229407523
As in, what if the girls were given the full details of the system, and still contracted regardless.
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>>229411116
>there won't be anymore changes to the script
There could be, I think.
If I remember correctly, Homu rebelling at the end of the movie was something Shinbo and the Producer thought of. It wasn't Urobuchi's original idea.
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>>229360156
Can't wait for Iroha and Ashley to show up.
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>>229411242
Unless it's Iroha from the MagiReco timeline, she cannot show up since she's not a Magical Girl in the OG timeline and is probably dead.
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>>229411161
I guess you could call that a full success then. Successful utilitarianism? Like being called upon for a greater good.
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>>229366629
But she isn't completely powerless at all, she's just a ticking timebomb that'll always be in the back of Homura's mind. One day, something will remind her of her past and open a pandora's box like no other, unraveling Homura's glorified playpen thread by thread.
Or she'll never reawaken and live to be a happy housewife or businesswoman. Either or.
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>>229411116
We don't know that. There could still be changes or some amount of rewriting and smoothing things over.
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>>229411980
I want Madoka and Homura to grow up together.
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>>229412905
I want one of them to rape the other.
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>>229415582
Seek help.
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>>229412346
If there's any rewriting it's probably someone else.
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>>229415879
>>229415582
Give me one hour.
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>>229410561
>Then I'm not ok with it.
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>>229367987
They play Mami up but she never accomplishes anything anyway. She will never actually do anything of substance, just look badass in fights that don't have meaning and also have shit choreography
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>>229360365
vgh...I kneel
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>>229419519
>fights that don't have meaning
>have shit choreography
It's crazy how hate can make some people blind.
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>>229395626
If you went to a Christian school there's a 99.999999999% chance that you're Christian.
t. Went to a Christian boys school
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>>229360156
>"I'm so fucked up"
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>>229360156
Sayaka will job to a Madoka that wants to hear Homura out. Madoka's choice ends up being the right one.
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>>229360156
What if Madoka herself jobs?
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>>229360365
this im so fucking tired of bluehairedfags
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>>229402898
Our sequel was more possible than your new chapter.
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>>229420596
Jesus no please
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>>229419519
>Got to live more years
>Got a free cheese loli
Literally is the only meguca who got something from become meduka instead of losing like the other dorks
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>>229424136
Madoka got to finally be important and special just like she always wanted ;_;
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>>229424253
I still find the series ending emotional after all this time.
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>>229424333
This. AVE MADOKA!
And if the theme of Her holy Sacrifice makes you emotional again, I'm sorry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZXhcB5UKG0
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>>229421809
I'm not sure if she's even going to fight in this new movie
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>>229425253
I personally prefer the original.
https://youtu.be/jJX3D8Gk1t0

I did find this while looking around for a piano version of "I was waiting for this moment"
https://youtu.be/H7091Z-BueY
Its surprisingly simple for such a powerful piece of music.
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>>229426154
Another one I found while digging around a bit on youtube.
https://youtu.be/8lujEQHNeVE
I don't know why but piano pieces always appeal to me.
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>>229425253
>>229426154
Good tracks.
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>>229420596
Hell no. This would be so bad for Sayaka if it happened.
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The plot will basically be Homura trying to destroy Walpurgis to prevent Madoka's ascention but that creates just a paradox because Homura needed Madokami for her own ascention.

Realizing that she has no way to change causality will drive Homura to try and destroy everything out of spite but her actions will result in a third character becoming godlike and helping Madoka rein in Homura.

I think the character in question is Walpurgis herself with her identity and wish being finally revealed.

The Universe will reach a new equilibrium with Madoka controlling heaven with the redeemed Meguca, Homura controlling hell with the damned witches and Walpurgis judging the Meguca on Earth over their deeds.
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When will the movie come out?
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>>229426851
Your first sentence in particular sounds very interesting. I don't see Homura trying to destroy the world any time soon but trying to undo Walpurgis altogether would believably explain why it's suddenly back in this movie.
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>>229426983
She will likely lose her sanity further and further as she realizes she can't undo the past.

To be honest she is already going full Far Cry 3 crazy trying the same thing she did before with time manipulation and expecting a different result.
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>>229426892
No dates for now. Maybe when Magireco finishes airing its last part they'll announce something.
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>>229427210
Her current universe is fragile and not going to survive for long, that much is clear.
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>>229422757
You might have to read that post again then.
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>>229411832
At that point it's essentially martyrdom and the issues with it are less significant but still present. E.g. what if you can't find a martyr? Is martyrdom still a pure willing sacrifice if it's motivated by social pressure and cultural norms? Can a moral society allow someone to be sacrificed for their benefit even if they are willing? Etc.
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>>229419712
Yeah he probably didn't get Rebellion. It's not that easy of a movie to understand to be fair.
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Would you marry a Madoka?
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>>229426892
October 2023
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>>229430782
No, bu I would degrade her into a sex slave.
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>>229430782
I would, and I would cuddle and love her every day.
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>>229428640
That Sayaka hater can't even read
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>>229429243
You could probably liken it to war in a sense, especially if the martyrs were willing like in your thought experiment. There are the same ideas of duty, honor, sacrifice, all of those things.
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>>229430782
I would give her to Homura where she belongs.
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>>229423641
Being Sayaka is suffering so I can believe it.
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>>229430782
I'd like one Kyouko please.
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>>229432308
But what about the smell?
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>>229432454
Whoever gets Kyouko needs to force her to shower. A lot.
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donkers
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>>229432704
Madoka is pure moe. I love her.
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>>229426851
Wasn't Mitama from Magia Record supposed to be the Walpurgis backstory?
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>>229435653
>Magia Record
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>>229425733
She will fight Hitomi who is a godless heathen.
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>>229409714
Mami can skirt out of trouble using her good looks. She shouldn't be afraid of breaking the law.
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>>229424333
The series ending is kino. I'm not sure if I'll ever see another ending that good, and that fitting for the story it was trying to tell.
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>>229360365
sure, she is so chad she doesnt need no man, amirite?

her stupid plan was at least a part of what caused Homuras decision on the first place. (please note i said A PART, to think her little idiot act was 100% the reason Homura decided to go AI YO would be retarded, but it also would be retarded to think it didnt had a part on Homu's decision)

The hard way my balls! fuck you!
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>>229436067
Hey it's just what I heard. I barely even know the character.
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>>229436446
>Middle of the movie
>”Hey Homura, is the person that wished for all this so evil?”
>End of the movie
>”Yes, Sayak, and it’s just terrific”
Really it was all Sallaka’s fault, if you think about
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>>229436446
AI YO is 100% Homura's fault. Sayaka tried to save her but it was not enough to cure her homolust.
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>>229430782
Yes, and then I'd send a video of me mating pressing her on our honey moon to Homura.
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>>229436689
>Threaten homu at the top of her paranoia
>Transform into a witch to scare her, making her think that Madokas sacrifice meant jack shit.

>Trying to save her.

pick one, i cant even believe the 'Trying' part.
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>>229436901
Homura is unstable. What would she would do if that happened?
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>>229437074
Probably masturbate.
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>>229437074
Kidnapping and rape
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>>229436689
You’re making it sound as if Homura ever did anything wrong.
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>>229437027
There was no threatening. And she didn't transform to scare her, just to escape because Homura is so bloodthirsty.
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>>229432704
This is the most adorable dokes I've seen in awhile.
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I am not crazy! I know she used the trip to Kamihama to get them together. I knew it was too weird. There was no timeline like it. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just - I just couldn't prove it. She covered her tracks, she got those shippers on Twitter to lie for her. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? She's done worse. That encounter with Kuro! Are you telling me that Homura just happens to meet someone who would go on to become her gay ghost guardian? No! She orchestrated it! Madoka! She convinced Sayaka to wear that stupid mushroom costume! And I let her! I shouldn't have. I let her lead on all of these girls into her cuckqueen fantasy! What was I thinking? She'll never change. She'll NEVER change! Ever since she was 9, always the same! Couldn't keep her hands out of reverse NTR tag! But not our Madoka! Couldn't be precious Madoka! Shipping them blind! And SHE gets to have a harem? What a sick joke! I should've stopped her when I had the chance! You-you have to stop her!
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>>229437531
It's the power of namori
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>>229437769
This post is too based for this thread, chuckanon.
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>>229365797
Jobs to Charlotte.
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>>229437847
Just lovely.
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>>229437769
Based Better Call Saul X Madoka posters
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>>229360156
Sayaka's role will be as embarassing as always: she was deliberately provoked and conditioned by Homura, and will be her pawn, not listening or cooperating with anybody as usual.

Nagisa will have a very important role, who, despite being 8 years old, is a somewhat competent and thoughtful "angel" unlike the other one, and, by extension, Mami, who is going to have Nagisa as her "brains" for once.
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>>229437250
Maybe, she did.
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>>229438650
Sayaka did nothing wrong.
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>>229438650
I do think Sayaka will get captured or something and it will probably be up to Mami and Nagisa to save the day.
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>>229426892
When Shaft finally gets their mess together
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>>229416459
I doubt it. Urobuchi should still be the main creative control even now.
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>>229431278
Madoka is pure and you cannot do such a thing.
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>>229440193
Did magireco bring the wide back?
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>>229440193
very pinchable cheeks
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>>229440329
What are they thinking as they look into each other's eyes like that?
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>>229441160
"Damn, I'm hot"
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>>229441160
"Wow... She's dressed like a total slut."
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>>229360156
homura

her existence
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>>229441160
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Rebellion does have plenty of imagery that alludes to suicide, doesn't it?
I wonder if there's any meaning behind it? I mean, the imagery is there before and after Homura ascended.
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>>229441373
Homura can't job she is literally the Devil
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>>229441160
>She seems like a nice person, I wonder if we could become friends
t. Madoka
>I don't know what to make of this
t. Iroha
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>>229441461
It does. But I am not sure if it has any meaning since Homura doesn't give a shit about herself and only cares about Madoka.
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>>229441461
I can't into symbolism to save my life but I assume it's because Homura hates herself. Or even that she considers Madoka's sacrifice tantamount to suicide and another piece in the chain of logic that leads her to believe it was a mistake.
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>>229441461
>>229441992
It’s fairly straightforward. Before AI YO, Homura wants to die in order to protect Madoka, but she also wants to live so she can spend time with Madoka. After AI YO Homura wants to die because she betrayed Madoka, but she also wants to live so she can maintain a world in which Madoka can be happy.
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>>229409595
You can't rape the willing.
https://files.catbox.moe/ujonjk.jpg
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>>229441871
it doesn't have any meaning because it won't hurt her and she knows it. it's just homura acting out her self-loathing in a way that doesn't matter, like her familiars pelting her with tomatoes.
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>>229441461
Yeah that's kind of Homura's whole thing as a witch. She continually plays out the procession to her own execution and all her familiars exist to bully her.
https://wiki.puella-magi.net/Homulilly

>The Nutcracker Witch. Its nature is self-sufficiency. Its gallant form, which once split many nuts, is now useless. Without any other purpose, this witch's last wish is her own execution. However, a mere decapitation will not clear away the witch's sins. This foolish witch will forever remain in this realm, repeating the procession to her execution.

>The Nutcracker Witch. Her nature is self-sufficiency. Her teeth are showing, her skull is melted, and her eyeballs have fallen out. A promise is the only thing that pitifully planted in that head which can no longer crack any nuts, but within the husk of the awakened witch is the distinct form of a magical girl. Her servants shamefully refer to that thing as a good-for-nothing.
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>>229442121
I wouldn't call that straightforward but thanks for the rundown.
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What are the chances Homura fucks up by making Kyubey suffer and letting it become meguca?
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>>229442341
I'd love to date someone like Mami. She seems so down to earth and relaxing to be with.
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>>229442458
>tfw it's technically possible to have a Kyubey meguca now
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>>229442414
lel
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>>229442570
>Kyubey becomes not!Adam
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>>229442245
Now that's low self-esteem.
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>>229442414
I miss these
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>>229440193
Kyoko is furry
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>>229443202
Me too. It's the kind of thing you would only find on the old internet now.
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>>229443205
She just wants to be warm for once.
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>>229437769
She can't keep getting away with it
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>>229443695
How did this become a thing?
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>>229443652
Hobo problems
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>>229442309
No problem.

>>229443205
Cozy…
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Sayaka is a dumb dumb.
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>>229444680
No!
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>>229442121
>>229442245
I wonder if it's just that. I can understand the suicide motifs prior to her ascension, but after that there are other changes. Take her demeanour for example, she just looks lifeless. Her eyes look devoid of energy or any kind of motivation. The suicide imagery also comes from the Clara Dolls, like that one scene with them jumping from a cliff, leaving only their shoes behind. Then you have her dancing at the end, again here eyes seem dead, and she only smiled when looking at her Soul Gem.
Then you also have the imagery showing things in half, like the moon, or Homura being alone in a cliff, with no one beside her, and then she falls.

But that makes me wonder how she ended up like that. I mean, she was far more hopeful in the Wraith Arc, and Madoka had already disappeared at that point.
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>>229438652
No she didn't.
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>>229444959
Clara dolls throughout the movie are generally acting out how Homu is feeling at the time. She smiles at the dark orb because it’s proof of her love for Madoka, which is important because convincing herself that Madoka might be a figment of her imagination was one of the things that drove her insane. The imagery of things cut in half and Homura being alone is all related, they’re showing her isolation from her friends generally and Madoka specifically and most importantly.

>Her eyes look lifeless and devoid of any motivation
This is the one thing we don’t have any kind of answer to. We can assume that something about how Homu’s new world works is extremely tiring or draining, but we don’t know with any kind of certainty. Hopefully the new movie answers that question.
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>>229444959
I think there are quite a few elements to it, the entire situation and events around and in Rebellion are basically one blow after another designed to utterly break Homura down.
Add into this her ever present self loathing and you have a recipe for someone who has no hope left to give. The one thing left she has to hold on to is her dream of giving Madoka a happy, normal life which is probably the only reason she is still living.
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>>229364766
Based ship
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>>229445755
It seems like such a weird dynamic. A cool girl and her cool senpai?
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>>229445821
No, two hugely insecure girls pretending to be cool.
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>>229445901
Wow, it's actually genius.
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I want to be Felicia's sugar daddy.
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>>229446045
best nu-meguca
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>>229444746
Glasses Sayaka to the rescue!
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>>229435653
No, this is her witch form
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>>229446249
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>>229446374
>her chibi little legs just sticking out of the bottom
kek
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>>229446344
That's an extremely cute and cool sayakachan
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>>229446477
Well technically that's her Doppel, the actual Witch would look somewhat different. For example, this is Sayaka's Doppel
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>>229446585
Looks like the design has a big overhaul around the head portion to accommodate Sayaka. The three flags/banner looking things is a cool addition, like Sayaka is riding a mount into battle.
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>>229446765
Its actually based on a rejected concept for Sayaka's Oktavia stand in Rebellion
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Peaceful megucas
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>>229444959
I interpreted it as a show of self-loathing. Calling herself the devil, taunting Sayaka, and isolating herself from everyone are just some of the ways she's trying to make herself into an evil "monster" figure because that's what she feels like she is. She's torn between knowing that what she did was right, and still hating that she had to trample on Madoka's wish, and she hates herself for it. I wouldn't be surprised if on some level she almost wants the other megucas to fight her and she almost wants to lose.
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>>229446794
Interesting. I'd always just guessed that they decided to make it look the same as a no-brainer, I wouldn't think they were considering making Octavia look different from how she did in the series.
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>>229448173
Since Doppels aren't complete Witches, they look slightly different.
The general rule seems to be that a Doppel is manifested from a part of the user's body; for example, Iroha's Doppel manifests from her hair Yachiyo's Doppel manifests from her legs, etc.
Homura, meanwhile, basically fuses completely with her Doppel (both moemura and coolmura in-game use the pre-Rebellion version of Homulilly)

>The Doppel of closed circuits. Its form is the mortal world. The master of this emotion loops through time in an endless cycle of trial-and-error. Master and Doppel fuse together, her skin becomes glass, and her expression freezes into that of a doll. She launches volley after volley of attacks that only end when her target falls silent. In this way she is more like a Witch than other Magical Girls. Not only can she can manipulate the sands of time, but she can pluck information of low importance from the alien lifeforms on her hat and create anything around the level of an earthly weapon by solidifying the sand.
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>>229448311
Also, coolmura's Doppel is a call-forward to Rebellion

>The Doppel of Karma. Its form is the mortal world. The master of this emotion visits many worlds in search of an exit, spinning giant threads of fate. Fourteen incomplete bodies born from emotion trail behind the master's body, which has almost completely transformed into glass. In order to achieve their mission, these 14 bodies work methodically and tirelessly to remove obstacles. Regardless of their master's will, they weave the threads of fate, which become tangled in ever more complex patterns, driving her yet further into a maze, the exit of which can hardly be found. These bodies of emotion have no names.
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>>229446513
That's because Sayakachan is extremely cute and cool!
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>>229448541
Not sure if Sayaka or Kuyoko or extremely based
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>>229446344
beautiful
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>>229446037
Every main meguca girl is capable of pairing up with any of the others and you'll get an interesting relationship dynamic between the two. They're so distinct and well-realized as characters.
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>>229448915
A man of culture
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>>229448311
>>229448381
>Even her doppels are cool
How does she do it, anons?
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>>229448915
even sayaka x mami?
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>>229449674
Yes, absolutely. If you haven't read it check out The Different Story. It does a great job of exploring the relationship triangle between Kyouko, Mami, and Sayaka.
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>>229448311
What happened to her legs???
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>>229449481
The doppels are pretty aesthetic. And Homura is a cool girl.
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>>229448311
>Homura, meanwhile, basically fuses completely with her Doppel
Isn't it the same with Mitama?
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>>229450910
It manifests from Mitama's left arm, but it covers her, it doesn't completely fuse with her.
>The Doppel of Memento Mori. Its form is flower petals. The master of this Doppel resents her environment and wishes to destroy everything. Her Doppel never forgets that death comes to all things equally. It covers everything with dancing flower petals and escorts girls elegantly with its white gloves. Like its master, it isn't able to attack directly, but its power, which is connected to the end of all things, is utterly terrifying - the magic of anything hidden under its flower petals rots away to nothing. The more the master relies on this Doppel, the closer her left arm will get to becoming completely one with it.
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>>229367706
Based.
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>>229450049
I just want to know if Homura's doppel comes with a free Kyubey or not.
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>>229451519
But of course
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>>229451933
Kyubey hands out extras of himself as a meguca sign on bonus.
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>>229448311
>>229448381
There needs to be a Homu with a nutcracker Homulilly doppel.
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>>229393541
Normies can't be magical girls.
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>>229452367
I guess Hitomi will always have the soul of a normalfag.
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>that bad feel when you developed schizophrenia because of Rebellion.

I'm bitter about it.
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>>229452131
>I signed on to a pyramid scheme and all I got was this shitty mascot

>>229452576
You always had schizophrenia, you just got unlucky on the timing.
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>>229452576
That sounds like a story. What happened?
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>>229452696
You don't understand. It's too much to type out, but I'll just say the theme of my schizophrenia is Madoka and I live it out every day of my life. My life is a battlefield between Homura and Kyubey.

>>229452705
I could probably write a novel about it.
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>>229441461
Homura killed herself.
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>>229452791
Are you the anon that was talking about all that weird stuff with the voices in your head awhile back? Because I remember all that sounding very unusual.
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>>229452791
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>>229452946
She's fine. She fell of the cliff at the end of Rebellion and probably just laid down on the ground the rest of the night before dejectedly going home.
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Something I've been wondering, Mami and Kyouko are orphans for obvious reasons. Madoka and Sayaka have families, but I'm not quite sure about Homura.
Also, where did the bit about Kyouko and Homura being Christians came from? I mean, I know Kyouko's family practised some religion, but I don't recall it ever being disclosed as Christianism.
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>>229453816
Re; Kyouko, a few things. The word they use in the show when referring to her family's church is the word for a western church, i.e. christian church. In the first recap movie, they added a cross to the top of the building and another one behind the altar. Additionally, the stained-glass windows also present in the BD version of the show are very clearly biblical stories.

Re; Homu, she went to a mission school in Tokyo before she came to Mitakihara.
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>>229446408
Tsuruno is the hottest one there
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Homura did everything wrong, but she did it all for Madoka, so it’s alright.
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>>229454778
Junko Kaname would be proud.
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>>229437769
I enjoyed this
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>>229452576
I hope you're doing okay anon.
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All things must end in time, but it's not this thread's time yet.
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>>229457117
go to /vg/ for the eternal meguca thread
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>>229457144
>MagiReco
No thanks
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>>229457144
I like having meguca threads on /a/. And they can be comfy sometimes too.
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>>229365551
Letters were pink in TV to represent Madoka, purple in Rebellion to represent Homura. Could it be gold stands for Mami? If so it's bullshit, if anyone besides Homura deserves some spotlight, it's Kyoko IMO
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>>229436067
Magia Record is canon.

>>229457366
I love /vg/ and I love MagiReco. Best thing to happen to Madoka.
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>>229458752
Madoka was the best thing to happen to Madoka. Rebellion is an infinitesimally close second place. MagiReco doesn't even rate among the top 5.
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>>229458969
MagiReco bought Madoka back. I put it on the same level as Madoka.
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>>229458988
Stockholm syndrome
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>>229459080
Nice buzzword buzzwordman, but nope. I genuinely like MagiReco. I love the story and the game.
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>>229458752
Magireco is shit and /vg/ is a shithole. I'm really sorry for you that you've gotten used to it.
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>>229459139
MagiReco is great and /vg/ is my favourite board.

You do not need to be sorry. MagiReco bought me back to Madoka. I love it. Gacha games are really fun just like Derestage.
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Damn it feels good to be a gachabro.
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>>229459139
There's nothing wrong with liking magireco. It's not my thing but the spinoff kept Madoka alive in the many dead years after Rebellion. All of its fans are real Madoka fans.
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>>229458155
Arguably Mami was the one who needed it because of her untimely death in the tv series. Kyouko would've been the one who next most needs it though, unless we count characters like Nagisa and Hitomi.
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>>229459125
‘Buzzword’ is itself a buzzword
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>>229460318
Buzzword again.
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>>229459363
Only a total moron would like magireco and gachatrash. Gacha brought the franchise down to garbage level, and it's unclear if they can recover in a sequel.
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>>229460552
I love playing gacha.

MagiReco revived Madoka and bought it back. I can't wait for MagiReco cameo in the sequel.
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>>229460552
Stop trying to divide this fandom. I don't even know if you're being genuine or are just another shitty falseflagger.
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>>229459551
We don't count Hitomi.
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>>229460709
MagiReco makes people really mad for some reason.
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>>229453816
I don't know about Homura. I suppose she could be an orphan or her family could just be absent.
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>>229453816
Kyouko's father was a heretic and a Christian pastor.
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>>229453816
Homura is the self insert obviously.
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PSA: Hating, liking, or not caring about MagiReco doesn't make you a better Madoka fan than someone else. Shitting up the thread makes you annoying.
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>>229462117
Okay.
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leg so hot
hot hot leg
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>>229360156
Mami. She's always a jobber.
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>>229365797
Mami lost twice to Kyouko.
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>>229462799
>sticks
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>>229464384
sex sticks
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>>229392972
Sayaka is for suffering.
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Madokami belly and chest



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