>a studio should not have its twenty-something girls crying in the bathroom, doing all-nighters.'I Have Some Horror Stories': Animator Talks Industry's Problems, Hopes for the Future> Overwork and overproduction – these are some of the main problems currently facing the anime industry. Animator wages remain low even as the demand for anime climbs and mega corporations become steadily more involved on the financing side. Under these circumstances, even studios that make an effort to create a positive work environment take on more work than they can chew simply to remain afloat. https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2021-07-21/i-have-some-horror-stories-animator-talks-industry-problems-hopes-for-the-future/.175178
>Put an anime on the air then make itIf the production companies didn't do retarded shit like this, they wouldn't have to work like dogs
>>225841636This, production companies don't give a shit about the workers or the quality of the product
This is why every trade group in Hollywood is union. These companies will suck your life out if you let them. One work stoppage on a major series would change everything because there aren't enough skilled animators out there right now to bring in scabs
You know what would be newsworthy? If we heard about a studio that wasn't like this, other than KyoAni and maybe PA Works.
>>225838036Gyarmath Bogdan,One of the producers of the Precure series of films. He was born in Romania. In 1989, he participated in the political movement and was forced to go into exile in Hungary. After 1992, he came to Japan and joined TOEI animation.
Boo fucking hoo. Get a better job then.
>>225838036>willingly volunteer to do a job>can't perform so you're forced to work longer>crying because it's your fucking faultWON'T SOMEONE PUH-LEASE THINK OF THE 20 SOMETHINGS!!!!
>>225843740You clearly have never seen anime production before
I'm so tired about people crying about the bad working conditions while doing absolutely nothing to improve the situation. Unionize or shut the fuck up, bitch.
>>225844251what the fuck does it say
the boruto movie was made on 2 months preproduction time, tetsuya nishio was hospitalized multiple times cause he was pulling all nighters to try and salvage it. In fact even kishimoto didn't know when the movie would release until it was announced at Jump Festa 4 months before it came out.
>>225843740wonder (((who))) could be behind this post
>>225838036>demand for anime increases a billion fold thanks to weebs overseas and their waifu addictions>studios see dollar signs and start pumping out all the isekai, moeshit, shonen and waifubait stuff they possibly can>anime studios become chinese sweat shop levels of unbearable in order to meet production targets>quality suffers>staff are overworked even by japanese work culture standardsIts our faults lads. We pushed them into this. We demanded too much from them.
>>225845559>Its our faults lads.it's only our fault for not being violently against ironic weebism
Twenty something women should be taking care of their newborns and toddlers.
>>225845559>I'm only pretending to be retarded
>>225838036That's just Japan in general, it's not unique to anime.
If its too much then take a simple job outside of the city and make animations you want to make as a hobby. Japan has a labor shortage.
>>225843740I have no idea how idiots that think terrible worker rights and conditions is ok while overpaid higher ups is fine.>>225844254Corporations and mongoloid sheep like the one above prevent that from happening.Even countries like the US has utter dogshit worker rights.
>>225845559>Its our faults ladsNo, higher ups want all the money instead of improving things for their workers. They're the ones to blame, as always.
>>225843740this anon is right. if you earn absolute shit and you're overworked to the point where you cry in the fucking bathroom go and flip burgers, the pay will still be shit but at least you keep your sanity. And no it's not right what's happening to animators but shit is obviously not going to change there.
>>225846424what is this pic
>>225844254>Unionize>In an Asian CountryDo burgers really?
>>225846851reread that anon's post. He's a faggot, but my point still stands.
>>225846883guy jumping in front of a train in japan
>>225846652stop working then, retards like these are the reason why the free market is not working. If an industry is worst than average then people should go to work on that industry
>>225847104>the free market is not workingOn the contrary this is exactly how the free market works.
>>225846999checkedwonder where he got isekai'd to
>>225846923>>225844254>>225838036What alternative is there? Are people going to boycott series that are produced under these conditions? Are legislature going to regulate working conditions and draw the ire of the giant media conglomerates that dominate Japanese business? Unions, lobbying, violently harassing scalpers is the only way anything would change.Of course how much of this is even needed? The people who work their way up in animation industry don't seem interested in changing anything. Tons of well known animators have become directors or heads of their own studios, and we don't see articles on how they put their employees first. No they all say unions were tried and never worked and then create the same crazy deadlines.
>>225846923>we just don't do the only thing we possibly could do, okay??uh-huh
>>225847625no it isn't. Shit industry shouldn't have this many people work for it.>>225847763the thing is 30+ year old animators get paid well. Look up the stats, they get paid well above the national average
>>225847763I know this seems like a lazy answer but it's an issue only Japan itself can solve, really. Any changes proposed by an outside source would be meddling too much.
>>225838036>ANNneck yourself, you deserve worse than those animators
>a studio should not have its twenty-something girls crying in the bathroom, doing all-nighters.Pretty hot
>>225848570Sounds like they need a personal punching bag/toilet/footslave to relieve some stress
>>225845559What the shit, if they can hear us, then why don't they just fucking pull the plug on isekai. It's obvious that nobody but the shills in the isekai thread like it, plus everyone who's living a decent life or actually has one. God fucking dammit, give me a protagonist that feels relatable, give him a story that isn't generic, "Doooy I became god so now me strongest character", stop with the bullshit love triangles, and give the characters a unique style to them that doesn't or at least makes them not appear to be 2D junk like those fucking shitsekai characters. If you want your anime to be talked about for the next decade or so, go for quality shit and not oversaturated isekai.
>>225838036>>a studio should not have its twenty-something girls crying in the bathroom, doing all-nighters.Turns out Go for a Punch wasn't an anime, it was anime studios.
>>225849958>>225846688>>225845766>It's a newfags episodeall of this shit has been around since TV anime took off in the 70s. The ones incredibly popular in the West in the 90s were not the norm of the time.Power fantasies, wish fulfillments, and healing anime will always be the norm. This isn't a bad thing, because the other anime still gets made, and if every anime were like those you'd beg for something different too.Fuck off back to where you came.
>>225850654>Power fantasies, wish fulfillments, and healing anime will always be the norm.I'm okay with this, I understand that this is the main purpose of the anime medium. My beef is with ironic "fans" who expect Japan to change and cater to their western sensibilities. These same ones are the loudest retards and companies end up thinking we(anime fans) want something that we don't and never asked for.
Inbetweeners deserve the pay they get
Too sad and bored to try to read the thread or the articule, which studio was it?
> a bunch of neets talking about work like they knew something about itKek never change /a/
>>225852701not every neet has been one forever
>>225843740is there a single board that doesn't openly hate the people who make the content they mindlessly consume day by day?
>>225852804Sure thing buddy
>>225838036Should have not hired girls, they don't belong in the workplace
>>225838036There was this one time where incompetence got 36 people killed on the job. The funny thing is the cultists still defend the shit studio.
>>225847763I think what it comes down to is more studios should try to be like how KyoAni does their work. It's weird that they're the only anime studio that doesn't seem to have this issue
>>225838036There's only 1 man responsible for this. FUCKING DAZ
>>225845559>>225849958>>225851776OMG OMG ISEKAI BAD XDEverytime lol
Are these any worse than the conditions Chinese workers have?
>>225855651KyoAni's not particularly special. Toei is far larger than KyoAni and has good work life balance too. Basically any studio that gets paid to make stuff to go on TV instead of having to pay for the timeslot will be a good place to work for.
>>225859221>any studiosyou can count on one hand
>>225859386Well yes. Toei, Sunrise, OLM, etc. Basically any studio that makes shit Westerners don't watch. The only reason KyoAni is special is because it's a studio that makes stuff people in the West actually watch from time to time.
>>225859221>pay for the timeslotI never got how is that a business model. I have heard before that anime gets paid nothing for airing on TV and studio has to cover the cost and are expected to recoup it by selling merch and bluerays.This is absolutely insane.
>>225845284What is this? The stupid sakuga cartel clique discord? Please get this shit out of my sight.
>>225859712The studio doesn't cover it. The production committee does, which the studio is rarely on. The reason Toei and company are as big as they are is because they can be on the committee more often, they can probably negotiate a much better merch cut, and the TV guys pay them a lot since their programs have decent ratings. I imagine around 5 studios are basically raking in all of 1) and 5) on this chart here and everyone else is fighting for scraps from 4) and 7).
What about Kyoanus?
>>225861600They misallocated the budget, cheapening out on fire exists to pay an animator still less than an average nip burger flipper, which made more people die, than the worst studio ever did by overworking its animators to death. In short, if you're not Toei, you are killing too many animators in Japan. NO EXCEPTION!!!