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I'm waiting for an apology.
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>>219906227
Please come back Togashi!
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HxH can't have a bad ending if it doesn't end
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>>219906599
He's dead. He died a year ago.
Let it go.
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Yu Yu Hakusho's ending was pretty bad. The anime barely salvaged it.
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>>219906919
My headcanon is that him and Miura spend their days molesting JC's on the train.
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>>219906227
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>>219906995
What the fuck is the problem with the anime's ending? Is that expectation of some kind of big tournament matter that much?
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>>219907071
Miura is dicking the 3-gatsu no lion author.
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>>219907111
There shouldn't have been a tournament in the first place. He was building up a kino power struggle between the three kingdoms and pissed it all away with a THIRD tournament arc because he got tired and wanted to end the manga. The anime makes it a bit better by actually fucking showing the fights that happened off screen in the manga.
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>>219906227
Nips produce God knows how many shit endings per year. One more doesn't excuse your bullshit.
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>>219907296
C-chikabros, this isn't true, right?
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>>219906995
>>219907111
YYH ending is perfectly fine. It's rushed, yes, but still really good.
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>>219906783
The real 4D chess hunterchad
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>>219908254
>YYH ending is perfectly fine.
Togashi is a hack. He's the only one who can write an entire arc about demons eating humans and right afterwards say that demons were the good guys who never murdered anyone
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>>219907855
We'll never know.
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>>219906227
What gang sign is that?
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>>219908604
>Spirit World juking the stats to justify the existence of demon hunting and the SDF
>Literally making their own killers that they eventually put down if they get too deranged due to the line of work.
>Yusuke realizing that he's killed quite a few demons and two humans because of this
Sounds kino
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>>219908604
You can't even properly interpret what's written on the page you posted, much less interpret an entire arc.
And you know YYH was written 30 years ago, right? He was a rookie back then.
He's on a completely different level nowadays.
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>>219906227
I'm waiting for a new chapter, faggot
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>>219909128
Neither of you have actually read YYH. The entire premise of the Demon world arc is that the three kings disagree on eating humans. Yomi and Mukuro want to eat humans, while Raizen doesn't want to, but even Raizen's followers like Hokushin eat humans to stay strong. This page >>219908604 makes no fucking sense in this context. None of them were controlled by spirit world, it's established that they can get weaker and die if they don't eat humans.
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Why is Alluka so cute?
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I don't want HxH to continue anymore bros
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hxh doesn't need to have a definitive overarching end because of the nature of each hxh arc being relatively self-contained.

this is why hxh will always be goat. the arcs are connected enough to support each other but separate enough that every arc from the current point in the manga and beyond could be 0/10 trash and hxh would still be the greatest series ever made. because you can just tell people to stop reading after CA or election or whatever.

you can't say the same of snk or one piece of shit.
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>>219909662
Except Raizen states that demons of his kind are from a bygone era and would eventually be phased out. Humans aren't even the main source of food, it was just the preference once
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>>219909662
>The entire premise of the Demon world arc is that the three kings disagree on eating humans
So? That page earlier didn't say the demons were good guys. It only said the Spirit World was also shady and the conflict was much grayer than it seemed.
Now in the Three Kings arc they have their disagreements, and Yusuke is succesful in bringing a solution. How is that a problem in writing?
>it's established that they can get weaker and die if they don't eat humans
The only one who died was Raizen because of his deliberate choice of never eating anything again.

And again, YYH is from 30 years ago. Togashi is not the same author since then.
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>>219909952
Your once in a lifetime wish has been granted.
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>>219906783
Outside of Kurapika receiving closure does anyone actually give a shit about a conclusive definitive ending for HxH? The only thing that could interest me from the idea is Togashi bringing Gon back and delivering on him and Gyro's meeting in the final arc.
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>>219908254
No. No it wasn't
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>>219910395
based
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>>219910434
yea those are the only two things i deeply want from the series. otherwise i just want it to continue because i like togashi's writing more than any other mangaka's
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>>219906227
I don't need to apologize for shit. You need to get back to work.
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>>219910010
>Except Raizen states that demons of his kind are from a bygone era and would eventually be phased out.
None of that matters though, Raizen isn't the only type of demon who eats humans. Yomi and Mukuro also eat humans to survive, and his followers do in order to stay strong.

>Humans aren't even the main source of food, it was just the preference once
It's the preference of a majority of demon world, since they literally derive strength from their food source. The "demon murdering a human once every few years" shit makes no sense. Even if it was only Yomi's followers, it would still be an enormous amount of demons who eat humans.
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>>219908786
what the hell am I looking at
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>>219910995
New berserk chapter.
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My uncle works at WSJ and he says HxH is cancelled. There might be a spin off by an other jump author though.
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>>219906227
Waiting is all you can do
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>>219906995
>>219909662
>>219910449
I personally loved the last arc. In fact, it's my favorite, even though it's obviously rushed.
But it's also kinda the point. We didn't need to watch every single fight. None of the main characters needed to win the tournament.
A peaceful solution was found as soon as the tournament was established, and then the tournament itself was just a nice, fun way to say goodbye to the series and the characters.
The Demon World was top tier world building, and the tournament resolution to their conflicts was perfect long term. Stable and open ended in just the perfect amount for a satisfying ending.
The execution was rushed, but the ending itself is perfect. And the anime filled in the gaps pretty satisfyingly.
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Quality > quantity.
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>>219910930
>None of that matters though, Raizen isn't the only type of demon who eats humans. Yomi and Mukuro also eat humans to survive, and his followers do in order to stay strong.
Yes, it does because part of the point of resolving the conflict was reforming the old ways of doing things. Hiei and Kurama prove you don't necessarily need to eat humans to become stronger. Neither did Yusuke.

>It's the preference of a majority of demon world, since they literally derive strength from their food source.
But it wasn't the only way to do so. Chu, Jin, and Touya all improved a farsight better than how they were from DT through rigorous training.

>The "demon murdering a human once every few years" shit makes no sense. Even if it was only Yomi's followers, it would still be an enormous amount of demons who eat humans.
The amount they gave is pretty iffy, I won't doubt.
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>>219911315
I agree that the anime ending is good, but that's only because it cleaned up Togashi's mess.
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>>219911551
yep true
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>>219911551
How are you coping with getting neither?
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>>219910882
>You need to get back to work.
>need
nice joke
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>>219906227
> *Watches people get brutally murdered for having any wealth whatsoever*
> "Communism"
> *Watches millions upon millions of people starve to death*
> "is"
> *Watches every soviet ally commit genocide*
> "just"
> *Watches individuals be put into reeducation programs just for wearing glasses*
> "An"
> *Watches gang style in fighting from people with state personality cults*
> "idea"
> *Watches Red guards go ape shit*
> "Bro"
Tankie can eat shit
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Damnit forgot the pic
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>itt people who don't know that togashi made YYH a rushed ending on purpose to spite his editors because they told him what to do and thanks to that has now full control over hxh and is the reason why he makes chapters whenever he wants without jump pressuring him
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>>219911696
>Yes, it does because part of the point of resolving the conflict was reforming the old ways of doing things. Hiei and Kurama prove you don't necessarily need to eat humans to become stronger. Neither did Yusuke.
I don't disagree. I'm just saying that it's a plothole. Spirit World didn't need an elaborate conspiracy to brainwash demons in order to justify protecting the human world. A majority of demons supported eating humans. Togashi was depressed at the time of writing so he shoehorned in a "humans were the REAL monsters" plot twist. This theme is in HxH too, but it's executed a lot better.
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>>219910995
proof that despite everything Miura is a bro
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At least SnK has an ending. I say this as a HxH fan.
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>>219912228
I can agree with that
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>>219906227
I started reading HxH because you people wouldn't shut up about it.
I'm enjoying it a lot, but I do have one question. Is there any deeper meaning behind the almost comically brazen disregard for human life that people seem to have in this world? Or am I just supposed to roll with it and not think too hard about it?
I mean, hundreds of people died during the hunter exam and no one seems to give a shit. Killua killed a random dude in cold blood and Gon's first thought was "I should go talk to Killua and see how he's feeling".
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>>219912510
>he's not a sociopath
You don't have the required IQ to read HxH, bro.
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>>219912594
I only ask because people really seem to hype HxH up as being emotionally deep and mature. But if I'm supposed to just turn my brain off and enjoy the ride then that's fine too.
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>>219912510
You had to start reading it in the '90s for it to really make sense in terms of genre conventions, just accept that you're a secondary now and fully enjoy Yorknew and Chimera Ant only.
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>>219912510
It's acknowledged on more than one occasion that they aren't normal people. In fact, in the current arc, Kurapika is actually called out for his matter of fact unemotional response to someone dying.
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>>219912510
you ever read watchmen? Togashi is copying that, hunters are supposed to be these kind of selfish morally ambigous people.
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>>219912738
>people really seem to hype HxH up as being emotionally deep and mature.
>he fell for the memes
im so sorry
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>>219906227
He is going to die or permanently incapacitated and HxH will be left unfinished
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>>219912510
The first thing to note is that HxH is set in a world different than our own. There are magical beasts and other stuff, and people are a lot less sensitive about death or supernatural events.
That said, you will come to learn that the Hunters and 95% of the cast are all morally gray or straight up mentally ill people.
There are regular people in the HxH world too, but the story is decidedly about these interesting, quirky and selfish individuals.
The arc which deals with the fundamental aspects of human natures only happen much later on.

>>219912594
Don't listen to those guys. Just deciding to start HxH is already a sign of high IQ, but deciding to go with the manga instead of the anime is doubly so.
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>>219912738
>emotionally deep and mature
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>>219913483
The Chimera Ants arc is. The rest of the arcs are more about the plot and the characters.
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>>219912510
I've heard that there are valid thematic reasons for it, but be damned if I know.
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>>219910434
Yeah I only give a shit about Kurapika and his narrative closure at this point.
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>>219910434
That and the conclusion to the Ryodan who may or not be tied with Kurapika's final fate.
Don't give a shit about the Zodiacs and assume the Prince shit (which I oddly enough care about) will end when their arc concludes.
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>>219913714
he needs to make it to chimera
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>>219912871
I wish he actually did copy watchmen. Still waiting for battle shonen so deconstructive that it irreparably destroys the medium.
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>>219912422
No ending is better than one that retroactively ruins your series. Get fucked snktard
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I just want the boat arc (the greatest hxh arc in the making btw) to be finished bros.. it didn't even stop at a cliffhanger, just mid some scene
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>>219911053
THIS?? is BERSERK??
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>>219914129
Meh. People know that battle shounen is fantasy. People also know that real violence/war sucks and the world is a shitty mean place and there are lots of stories about those things. And still people continue to produce and read shounen fantasy anyway. So I'm not sure what "irreparable destruction" would look like. People will always enjoy fantasy no matter how much you deconstruct it.
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>>219912510
The vast majority of hunters aren't good people. This is increased by the fact that Netero ran the association with the idea that only the strong matter and fuck the weak/who cares if they die if they get involved with matters of the strong.
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>>219912738
>emotionally deep and mature.
heh
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>>219914274
no is not you retard, but it was drawn by miura
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>>219912510
>I do have one question. Is there any deeper meaning behind the almost comically brazen disregard for human life that people seem to have in this world?
Its just the state of the world. I was really confused as well but in the world of HxH its seen as a normal everyday thing that you have this institution (hunter association) that lets 12 year old kids die trying to become hunters.
The contrast between the modern world like ours and different moral norms are just a thing you get used too.

>Killua killed a random dude in cold blood and Gon's first thought was "I should go talk to Killua and see how he's feeling".
Keep reading. Don't project established shonen protagonist tropes to Gon.
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>>219906227
I’m waiting for a new chapter
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>>219907071
>headcanon
Well, they don't do it on the trains...
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>>219914496
Irreparable destruction would just be permanently changing how battle shonen is written, making entire publishers try and emulate the deconstruction in the most shallow way. Superhero fiction is technically fantasy so it's not impossible, no mangaka has been good enough to do it yet and Togashi is out of the picture.
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>>219915112
>permanently changing how battle shonen is written
Togashi already did this to a good extent. All power systems after HxH try to emulate Nen in one way or another.
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>>219915779
Oh, also villain groups. It's a staple of every battle shonen to have a villain organizations like the Phantom Troupe.
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>>219915112
Are you saying that superhero fiction was irreparably deconstructed because you couldn't unironically publish a superhero comic from the 50s today?
I honestly don't think there's too much difference in the fundamental moral and philosophical outlook of something like DBZ and the oldest superhero comics. And DBZ is something that could still get published today. Therefore I'm not sure it's correct to say that superhero fiction has been irreparably deconstructed.
Old superhero comics feel out of date mainly because of surface-level details related to the art and language, not because the fundamental concept of a good-vs-evil story has been rendered invalid.
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>>219906227
The boat arc may be just words upon words, but it's still kino. Please come back Togashi
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>>219915883
Oh please, Kinnikuman had villain groups way before then.
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>>219909982
Bro, it is literally incomplete, you cannot compare if your series isn't fucking finished yet...
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>>219906227
I fu kng kneel you can everything I own
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>>219916115
Why don't you find villain groups in the shonen of the 90's then?
The trend clearly came in the early 00's after the success of the Phantom Troupe, with Akatsuki, Espada, Organization XIII, X-Laws, and too many other examples from literally every battle shonen.
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>>219915883
you're a moron
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>>219915779
Yeah but irreparable damage would look like every new shonen making their power system complex for no reason instead of making it coherent and flexible or making every villain group have a Chrollo clone who quotes the bible instead of fleshing out the group with a family-like dynamic. It's shallow imitation that ruins things.
>>219916008
I'm referring to period in superhero comics where all publishers learned from Watchmen was "edgy is cool" so there was a barrage of violence, sex and darkness with none of the depth. It got so bad that a "return to optimism" became a selling point later on.
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>>219911551
a story with no chance of ever reaching its conclusion is not quality. it's not finished
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>>219908786
Berserk is like the reverse of the My Little Pony movie from the early 80s.
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>>219916439
You could easily argue the Ginyu force started that trend
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>>219912510
I used to think it was weird too until some characters in the recent arc actually called this out. Most people in HxH are ruthless, it's part of the world-building.
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>>219916810
Ginyu Force were just 5 goofballs which were just some henchmen of the main villain.
It's obvious villain groups like Akatsuki are based on the Phantom Troupe and not the GInyu Force.
Also, you would see a lot of villain groups in the early 90's if Ginyu Force was the inspiration, and that clearly isn't the case.
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>>219916810
>Ginyu force
>Not the Gold Saints
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>>219906227
I apologize, SnK is garbage
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I've only watched YYH, what was different about the manga ending?
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>>219917655
Gold Saints indeed have a structure and came much earlier, but they weren't exactly villains.
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>>219916810
>>219917655
Also, now that I think about it, why would you think that Ginyu force started that trend when in the same series you had the Red Ribbon earlier?
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>>219914884
>Keep reading. Don't project established shonen protagonist tropes to Gon.
Are you actually retarded or is shonen all you read? A normal reaction of any person seeing someone commit murder isn't "I should go see how he's feeling." This isn't a shonen trope, it's just realistic writing, which hxh lacks.
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>>219906783
The perfect stratagem
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>>219918409
Gon is by design not a normal person, you brainlet.
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>>219909712
Because that's all there is to her character apart from being an asspull
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The ending to retaking shinagashina was kino. The ending to the Chimera Ant arc was a once in a lifetime amazing experience. Both were at the very least fantastic.

But one series had Gon's chapter end with Ging's famous little detours quote, the kids separating and a perfect showcase of everyone else's lives. Eren literally said 'I dunno' to doing the rumbling. What the fuck happened at the end?
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>>219917731
The last arc was even more rushed than in the anime, to the point it's almost a satire of tournament arcs.
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>>219906227
I hope Togashi never comes back. I don't want us to get SNK'd. Better to be left with the fond memories than to have everything be retroactively ruined.
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>>219920392
Be at ease, my friend. Togashi has never butchered an ending in his life.
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>>219906227
Ah yes, Togashi, who will never disappoint fans by writing an ending ever again.
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>>219908851
The very restrict good writers gang.
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>>219918565
Yfw Togashi foreshadowed this back in 1998.
Simply a man 20 years ahead of his time.
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>>219921319
BASED
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>>219912510
In a world like HxH it would make sense that people like hunters or people closely associated with things like it are desensitized to deaths of people they aren't close to as it must be a common occurrence
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I'M SORRY TOGASHI-SAN
I KNEEL
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>>219906227
wait some more, like you're used to
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>>219906783
Based
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>>219918582
>Man, this guy is really edgy.
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>>219917731
None of the fights in the demon world tournament are shown. After that there's a timeskip with Yusuke working as a detective for hire and a few chapters about spirit world terrorists.
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>>219906227
Togashi what the fuck
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>>219928006
there's also another chapter where Genkai dies but for real this time and it's genuinely emotional
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>>219928398
One is a burn from boiling water, and the other is a cut from broken plates.
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>>219929282
>I want to do it myself I'm a big boy
>Falls off stool and something falls on them
>Mom takes the hit for them
>Moms scar is important
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>>219906995
YYH ending was okayish. I didn't like the ultimatum to keep them locked in the demon realm, but Yusuke returning was good for what it was worth.
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>>219930324
Oh, anime. Nevermind.
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>>219906995
It's kind of a wet fart but it's not a total unmitigated disaster. The story really ended with Sensui anyway (since it was supposed to), Demon World Tournament was just a really excessive epilogue essentially.
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>>219906227
I KNEEL
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you can think of the madhouse ending as the legit ending and its still 10 / 10. just think of the hisoka chrollo fight and boat arc as fanservice
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>>219931344
It cant be a 10/10 if Nanika exists. It's an 8/10 max
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>>219906227

I'm waiting for a manga
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>>219931612
No apology, no manga.
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>>219912510
>Is there any deeper meaning behind the almost comically brazen disregard for human life that people seem to have in this world?
What do you mean? Do you know anything about the world you live in? It's basically almost worse in our world.
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>>219906227
Homo tranny lover Hackashi
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