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ITT: Big improvements/changes in art quality/style over the run of a manga.
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>>216957132
Looks like the opposite of One Piece, girl becoming plumper and cuter over time.
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>>216957052
Which one is which?
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>>216957570
Look at the arms, hands and hair for the most drastic examples.
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>>216957570
You mean which is newer? Should be obvious, but right is newer.
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>>216957758
right lost all it's soul
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>>216957932
>At first I was
>But then we were all like
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>>216957932
Mostly shading and background and stuff?
>>216957873
Senko looks much cuter now, though.
>>216957932
Looks cuter. Still not gonna read it, though.
>>216957949
So it kind of got better and then worse?
>>216958036
Kubo somehow just made everyone's faces look more like handsome men.
>>216958137
Not sure what I think is better, but I really gotta read through Ajin.
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>>216957132
Went from shameless Oda ripoff to developing his own superior style. Just wish he could write an engaging story
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>>216957052
The eyes on the right remind me of pochi.
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Akame ga kill's art improved significantly over the years
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>>216958283
Don't know it, but what the fuck happened?
>>216958383
Which Pochi?
>>216958465
There's something I prefer about left.
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It's quite neat seeing the change in character designs of artists who've been around since the early 2000s.
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>>216958529
This pochi.
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>>216958778
Suppose I can see the similarity.
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>>216957052
I know she will let them eventually, but I wish the author would just let Senko and her bf have sex already.
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>>216958189
Guys you know she started as doujin artist and Akira and Minoru were bases for Comic Studio MCs?
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>>216959057
Forgot a pic
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>>216958881
Probably not before her birthday. Hope it continues to show that, them taking over the company, marrying and having kids. Probably unlikely, though.
>>216958972
Definite improvement.
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>>216959096
Haven't read that one. Didn't even know the mangaka was a she.
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Rosario + Vampire
The Climber
Berserk
JoJo part 4
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>>216959096
Comic studio
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>>216958189
Henjo had sudden change in artstyle in 80something chapter Sugita suddenly stopped having kitsune eyes whole time and gained uncolored cowlick
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>>216959194
The sheer amount of art she did of that specific pairing made it obvious that the author is a woman.
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>>216959449
SE was great, too, though I feel like it needed a bit more time before ending. Don't feel like the artstyle change was that big, but it was obviously shorter, too.
Also, I marathoned Henjo and the change in artstyle is very gradual. Despite having seen the cover art and noticing the difference when I started, I barely noticed the change while reading. Obviously Sugata changing his hairstyle is gonna change how he looks. Also, his eyes being open all the time might also relate to his constant irritation with the two flirtatious weirdos, since the idea was that he opens his eyes when he's pissed.
>>216959614
Don't know, the relative lewdness of SE and Henjo, along with the whole age-gap JK thing, made me think that it was a guy.
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>>216959703
>Don't know, the relative lewdness of SE and Henjo, along with the whole age-gap JK thing, made me think that it was a guy.
You severely underestimate how lewd female mangaka can be.
And age-gap romances are more likely to be written by women than by men anyways.
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>>216959780
>You severely underestimate how lewd female mangaka can be.
I know they can be. But it just overall gave me the impression. That said, I guess romances that actually go somewhere are more common among female authors.
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>>216957052
Older version of Kojima looked better, the current one kinda looks like a 16 yo girl.
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>>216957052
Here's Volume 1 of Air gear vs Volume 16 using Ikki and Ringo as an example. Art still improves even more from 16 onwards
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and then it regressed again
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>>216958757
Never noticed these are the same artist
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I don't know why he felt the need to bring back her sixhead
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>>216960916
Seems like a bit of a common thing. Artist technically improves, but things like burnout cause the art to get worse again in some other way.
>>216961111
Really like the style Aka developed over the years.
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Someone need to post the Tsugumono and Kokou no Hito one, the difference is jarring.
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>>216961840
Eww. I feel like the mangaka tried too hard, there. Is that how it actually looks, or is it just the cover?
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>>216961840
Those kinds of covers usually look different from the actual manga art.
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>>216958972
Okamoto actually couldn't draw for shit back then.
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>>216958371
>shameless Oda ripoff
ok schizo
but he had that style from the start before he would be able to even hear about oda
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1st chapter and 19th chapter.
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Past
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>>216962407
And present, same mangaka.
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>>216962404
Art style on the right fit the series perfectly, even if there was a lot of sameface.
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>>216959194
>Didn't even know the mangaka was a she.
You should.
I'm so self-important that you need to know all my favourite mangaka are female like Norio and Hiromu Arakawa.
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>>216962121
Bless Azumaya for powering through like that, all for the sake of doing justice to Komachi's tits.
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>>216962573
holy shit
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>>216962238
If you can't see the very obvious connection between his art and Oda's, you are the schizo my friend
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>>216962190
The stairs and stuff look decent, I guess.
>>216962404
They both look like 10 years younger.
>>216962593
I am so sorry, oh wise one. Happen to have some good romantic comedies with actual relationship progression and not too much drama, while we're at it?
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>>216963065
>I am so sorry, oh wise one.
You should be.
>Happen to have some good romantic comedies with actual relationship progression and not too much drama, while we're at it?
Yes.
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>>216963106
>Yes
pls, some lewdness is good, too. I've been on a spree recently, but I feel like it's getting more difficult to find good stuff
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>>216957052
I started reading this recently and what I've read so far is kind of shitty. Both MC and feMC have serious mental problems just so the author can have an omg so epic pervert gimmick for his/her manga. Hopefully it improves but I don't have much faith.
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>>216963339
This would likely be easier if you listed what you've read, then and I'll try to fill in the gaps.
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>>216957052
Got some charts for ya
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>>216958529
>There's something I prefer about left.
probably because it reminds you of older manga, which has a more nostalgic feel to you
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>>216959096
>none of her doujins are translated
Kill me.
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>>216957052
I'd like to see more charts like these for more series. It's interesting to see where artists improved in their techniques.
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>>216960539
I love this guys work
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>>216957052
left is better.
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>>216959449
>Sugita suddenly stopped having kitsune eyes whole time
Very disappointing change.
He was super attractive prior to this, now he's just pretty hot.
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>>216957758
Does this manga ever get good? I like how the artstyle on the right looks but I tried reading this on a whim last year and the godawful humor put me off real quick
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>>216963498
what the fuck happened during part 4 to make him change so drastically?
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The start of Hidamari Sketch had a very different style than what Ume eventually settled on as her distinctive wideface. Yuno's X's got bigger over time, too.
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>>216963823
Yeah early Hidamari Sketch was too round for my taste.
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>>216963784
it was the 90's and manga moved from Macho Beefcakes to slender designs, look at Yu Yu Hakusho for refrence
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>>216963609
If you don't like it now, you won't like it later.
Just go read something else and please don't shitpost about how you think it's stupid.
It adds nothing and only detracts, both from people who like it and you wasting your time.
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What went wrong?
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>>216963823
This style was also similar to the style she used when she was an artist for eroge
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>>216963920
it peaked in 1992 then fell off, sad
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>>216963918
I wasn't trying to shitpost. I just thought it'd be a good chance to ask about it since it's in the OP and I wouldn't want to make a thread just for my one question. Thanks for the answer, though.
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>>216963951
I gotta wonder if working with Shaft had anything to do with the change. Can't be bothered to start looking for interviews or whatnot, though.
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>>216963371
They're both exaggeratedly weird. Over time it gets less focused on the ridiculous comedy and more on the relationships between the characters, especially the main pair. I would say that they become more normal in some ways and less so in others.
>>216963498
Just seems like a bit of a pain to put together.
>>216963559
Haven't read anything else by him. Any recommendations?
>>216963559
Technically it certainly isn't, though obviously the style changed, so you can have whatever opinion you want. But Senko in the newer style is fucking adorable especially when they start going out.
>>216963609
If you don't like the humor, it's probably not for you, which is fair enough.
Also shit taste, it's funny.
>>216963920
>right
What the fuck.
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>>216964018
I wasn't trying to say you were, just thought an earnest request might deter it because Henjo is one of my favourite manga.
Hope I helped in some respect, though I think I just said things you already knew.

The cast does increase somewhat and side characters get fleshed out a bit to the point that the delinquent gets a spinoff with a sexually aggressive NEET cake whose manga has crazy fast progression.
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>>216963451
Nah, I generally prefer more modern styles.
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>>216963920
I'd be totally fine with the 1994-5 style if the eyes didn't look so weird. It looks like they melted on the inside or something.
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>>216963920
95 is giving me some serious Marvel Mangaverse vibes.
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Jitsu Wa Watashi Wa went from shit to good to shit again
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>>216964072
>him
Her.
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>>216964106
Reminds me, does Eroko or the Riri one ever have a Senko cameo?
>>216964182
Her, then.
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>>216964204
>riri
Haven't read it yet.
I think I was waiting for it finish due to it supposedly being short, but haven't checked back.

>Eroko
I know Sugita's in it, but there's no Senko or Bakamura yet and I say yet because I recall reading something Konogi-sensei wrote that there would be in the future.
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>>216958137
better example
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>>216964106
Eroko is actually reason I tried henjo and the characters to me seemed a lot better written. Like they actually seem to have a semblance of self awareness, instead of being autistic NPCs.
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>>216964303
>Konogi-sensei wrote that there would be in the future.
Hope so. Honestly, at this point what I want the most is just a lot of their cute flirting.
>>216964346
That's definitely quite the difference. The amount of detail in that art is pretty crazy.
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>>216963784
Tone probably pushed him that way.
P4 is mostly near SoL shenanigans so the harsh dramatic style of P3 just doesn't look right. And Araki's taste changing separately.
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>>216959449
>[lewd typing intensifies]
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Is there an art progression for HxH?
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>>216964117
eh, it was worth tryna explain
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>>216964072
>Just seems like a bit of a pain to put together.
It would probably only be worth it for long series to see at which points the artist changed something. Shorter series are fine showing a page from the beginning and another from the current chapter or ending.
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>>216964346
I forgot how much Ajin changed. Had a strange ending too.
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>>216963920
Looks like he went too far into the pixie elf vibe of the design.

Pic Baki - Chapter 1.
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>>216964376
Well Eroko is more focused on the two getting together rather than ongoing hijinks, so I think that's where you get that feeling from.
I was in a similar boat, but had only read the first chapter of Eroko due to an OPT, but saw Henjo in the list.
As soon as I read the "This manga takes place after Vol.14 in Henjo - Hen na Joshi Kousei Amaguri Senko" bit on mangadex, I had to wait months to get to that point before I could let myself read it.
It was somewhere during this point I realised they were Konogi-sensei's works and felt like a retard for not finding either of them sooner.

I'm actually convinced Eroko is like a consolation prize situation for Hoshi because everyone I've spoken to felt really bad for all the crap he has to deal with in Henjo.

>>216964438
>Hope so. Honestly, at this point what I want the most is just a lot of their cute flirting.
We're getting more, don't worry.
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>>216964603
Photo escaped on me.
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Period/Glasses Senko best girl.
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>>216964050
I think it probably started changing before the anime started. Though I guess maybe the pre-production may have. Yuru Yuri is another manga where the manga's art style changed to look a bit more like the anime as it went on.
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>>216962573
dont forget the fact this was weekly and the author was getting fit as fuck throughout it all
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>>216962190
and that didn't stop him from drawing his story.
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Anal
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>>216964495
Given that there is effectively no continuity or real standardization to Togashi's style and art it'd be a pretty bad one to do it for.
>>216964663
Baki now. 30 years later.
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>>216962190
Better than most anons and certainly better than I, provided that image is without reference.
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>>216957052
The dumpire manga did a 360 the first 5 chapters when it came to art style.
Then after every 2 volumes the art style slightly changed.
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>>216964666
Satan confirmed.
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>>216964743
Clearly an improvement based on later works
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>>216964743
>The Enigma of Amigara Fault
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>>216964612
Honestly I haven't even gotten to Hoshi in henjo. For now I'm reading just for his sake. The "hijinks" focus of henjo isn't for me I guess. I don't know, it just feels like it goes a little too far in that pursuit at the cost brain cells.
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>>216964948
I can see how you'd feel that way, but I think it fits the tone Konogi-sensei chose and sticks with it.
Evidently it works for enough people to be able to get a proper spinoff and two short things, so it's quite a shame you can't enjoy it.
As you seem to be sticking with it, something I commend you for, hopefully you do get more enjoyment out of it.

Hoshi's bits are great, he's one of my favourite characters.
In-universe, he wrote the short manga about a girl who is actually a fridge.
He gets screwed out of seeing pantsu a lot and Bakamura gets in the way of his crush on Senko, hence his spinoff.
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>>216962190
Cant a guy start from somewhere? Thats literally the beginning of EL.
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>>216964523
How I kinda felt like putting pic related together pic related Also kind of shows off the progression of their characters and relationship, along with the general change of tone throughout.
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>>216964948
I would say Henjo changed a lot over its course. It's much more of a romantic comedy with weird characters now, when it started as more of a somewhat lewd gag comedy with romantic undertones.
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>>216957802
my god this woman is so alpha
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>>216965694
>It's much more of a romantic comedy with weird characters now, when it started as more of a somewhat lewd gag comedy with romantic undertones
I just see that as natural progression for any romcom that's more com at the start.
I've never seen any do anything different, but I may have confirmation bias.
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>>216957802
Willing euthanasia is not murder, I think.
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>>216965912
She is a sadist though
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>>216965753
I might have confirmation bias myself, but when I first started it, I personally didn't think it would end up going in that direction quite as much as I feel it did. Now I just want more cute flirting!
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>>216965694
Middle Takamuras a cute!
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>>216958667
Road remains the most beautiful no matter what
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>>216966013
That's fair.
I generally have a pretty good sense about things and knew exactly where it was going from the start.
The best part about all the cute flirting, and something I was planning on remarking about, is included in the image you just posted.
They still retain their usual characteristics and banter while moving into mushy land.
Shit's so cash, though I've never doubted Konogi-sensei.

If you haven't read any of her non-Henjo stuff by now, you totally should.
Comic Studio is my favourite that isn't Henjo.
It does feel a little short in regard to a few side characters disappearing and not being fleshed out before the obviously forced end.
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>>216966026
They're both their cutest when they start going out. Also somehow since then I can only imagine their voices as Hanazawa Kana and Kamiya Hiroshi, for some reason.
>>216966214
I wish it was easier to find stuff with characters going out like that. It's cute as fuck and I hope it continues all the way to marriage.
I've read SE, which I liked a lot, both because Momoka is cute and I'm a programmer myself and manga or anime going at least somewhat in-depth with software development and such is pretty rare. Slightly disappointed about the rushed end, with the whole multiple sclerosis thing just kind of being wiped away with a time skip.
Not a loli fan, but maybe I should check out Comic Studio, too.
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>posting old charts like a facebook/redditor tourist
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>>216966539
Meant to spoiler the pic, though it probably doesn't matter.
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>>216966556
Quite the change. That old style is pretty cute, though.
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>>216966539
>They're both their cutest when they start going out.
I think early, flustered Bakamura by himself is physically the cutest, though I largely agree with you in that together they're super cute.

>I wish it was easier to find stuff with characters going out like that
Yeah, it's a real shame.
Most either drag on or have some weird gimmick while they're dating so that we rarely get these cute moments, like Do Chokkyuu Kareshi x Kanojo.

>SE
What I liked most about it was that I could enjoy it with no knowledge of programming, but also largely agree with you.

>Not a loli fan
I am, but the whole thing doesn't have as heavy loli vibes as you're likely anticipating, it's nothing like, say, Kodomo no Jikan or that one about mooching off lolis.
Sure, they're there, but so is a rich and funny cast and pretty decent writing.
Most of the loli-esque things about her being cute and dressing her up in cute clothes anway.
I would heavily recommend a read.
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>>216966924
>Do Chokkyuu Kareshi x Kanojo
Ah yes, that one was more hilarious than cute to me. Haven't picked it up again since the first actual drama happened. Should get back to it.
>Sure, they're there, but so is a rich and funny cast and pretty decent writing.
>Most of the loli-esque things about her being cute and dressing her up in cute clothes anway.
Well, that sounds fine, might give it a shot.
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>>216967283
That's a large improvement.
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>>216967261
>that one was more hilarious than cute to me
Same here, that was my issue.
Their gimmick, the straightforwardness, largely prevents having any cute moments.
>Haven't picked it up again since the first actual drama happened
I left it around the time they wanted to learn how to get each other off properly.
Not really keen to get back to it until it's finished.

>Well, that sounds fine, might give it a shot.
I really hope I've not oversold it here.
The loli aspect is 100% there, but there's more about being a mangaka which is why I enjoyed it greatly in the first place, similar to how you enjoyed SE.
Just prepared to be annoyed at a few characters being introduced who seem like they'll be important then never turning up again.
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>>216967283
Wait... is that bath door with the sign a vagina/ass?
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>>216967283
I prefer the twenty years prior.
Much cuter.
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>>216965694
how the hell does their style change that quickly
you'd think drawing the same characters over and over would just encourage the same habits for sake of speed and they'd end up looking the same throughout
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>>216967518
well, it did start in 2012 and artist's styles often change fairly frequently.
Judging by her other works, I'd say she's still figuring herself out.
You can see the progression from her older stuff.
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>>216957873
old is soul hurr durr old is better hurr durr
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>>216967669
How is Marcielle so cute in both drawings
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>>216967708
Because Marcielle is the cutes blood mage ever. CUTE CUTE
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>>216967457
>Their gimmick, the straightforwardness, largely prevents having any cute moments.
Well, I didn't mind that. It's one that I read for the well-executed gimmick, in the end.
>I really hope I've not oversold it here.
Well, I can always give it a shot. It's pretty short, after all.
>>216967518
Essentially this >>216967518 As a bit of an artist myself, I can say that your style and technique generally changes and improves bit by bit even if you don't actually notice it from piece to piece. While marathoning Henjo I barely even noticed the changes while reading, since it's very gradual.
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>>216967928
At least they don't draw yaoi hands anymore.
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>>216967937
Chapter 302
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>>216967928
Definitely an improvement over the yaoi look.
>>216967937
>>216968053
Never thought about how SZS actually changed a fair bit. I love the aesthetic as fuck, simplistic style it has.
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>>216958137
Left is better
>>216964346
Right is better
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>>216967762
Marcielle is a MULE
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>>216968240
>Left is better
I think right is better in a technical sense, but I get preferring the style of the face in left.
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>>216967794
>Well, I didn't mind that
Oh, me either, it was really just an example of characters who get together but don't really get the chance for cute flirting.
Was the first thing to pop into my head.

>It's pretty short, after all.
So it is.
I remember it being longer, but that might also be due to me thinking it would be longer as I was reading it.
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>>216958757
What's the comic on the right? I know the one on the left is Cynthia The Mission.
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>>216968942
Really need to find more stuff with cute flirting. Love it in Henjo, but there haven't been a lot of chapters since they got together. Right off the bat, Horimiya is the only one I can think off, though I would've liked some cute flirting between my favorite pairing in that one.
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>>216969387
>Horimiya
Though I've been downloading it from mangadex, I haven't started reading this yet as I have far too many ongoings.
I'm going to pick it up now though as you're giving Comic Studio a chance.
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>>216964743
This has got to be the most drastic, right?
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>>216957949
It's like this was done by different artists.
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>>216958283
Ugly got uglier.
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>>216964743
what is this? I like the aesthetics
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>>216969489
It's very comfy and has a relationship that starts very early on, so I definitely recommend it. It is fairly long, though. Also, don't expect much of a story, it's very slice of life. I hear it's gonna end pretty soon. Too bad, since it'll probably end without my favorite pairing officially going out.
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I lost my other pages, I just use the comic pages themselves. Since this thread was about about mangaka skill
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>>216969634
What manga is this from? I like the artstyle
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>>216969876
I always forget Thistle is a boy but regardless I want Laius to fuck that elf
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>>216969928
Right definitely looks better but left has more soul.
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>>216967669
Art style progression really gives the manga more soul.
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>>216961828
Wow, Ikegami really peaked doing Sanctuary and Freeman, not that bad now tho.
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>>216964743
>Genre Shift After Volume 4 the series changes in tone from a sports series about Hockey to a more gag oriented love comedy. The Characters previously important in the early volumes are excluded from the story
I love this shit
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>>216970079
I think both fit their respective tones in the story. Things were way more lighthearted early on.
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>>216965047
Is this one of those times when the anime airs the mangaka start imitating the anime character designs?
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>>216971266
2002 looks best to me.
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>>216969928
Heard he's currently doing a new series right now. Is it any good?
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The first 1/3 of Fujiyama-san looks kind of rough and like Ojiro's older work. Then in the mid-20s Ojiro's style changes completely and gets, while a little more moe, way more detailed. It's also when the series starts to shift away from the more overtly soft ecchi tone to something lighter.

That art style carries over into Chion but by the later parts of Chion and now into Insomnia it's changed again. Thicker but looser lines, not as much detail but still nice to look at. I'm guessing it's mostly for convenience. It was probably really goddamn time consuming drawing something with that much detail. Even with her slightly less detailed current style she still has to fix up Insomnia for volume releases at times.
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Well if we're talking about the improvement in just one series, Oh Great definitely the perfect example of this.
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Akira Hiramoto looks like he learned on the job.
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>>216972317
Art improvements that scale inversely with story quality is what Oh Great! is all about
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>>216971801
I like that style, too bad I'm not into big chicks.
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>>216967283
Left look like something from keroro gunso
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>>216969928
How did this take so long to get posted?
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Artwork from first and last tankobon
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>>216972541
Coward.
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>>216958036
That's my face knowing the state of Bleach through the years
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>>216972681
Rude. Might still give it a shot at some point.
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>>216972717
Good.
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>>216972732
Looking into some of the mangaka's other stuff first, though. The Insomnia one seems interesting.
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It's somewhat hard to judge with Chirori since only the first two or so volumes are translated (and I don't really feel like tracking down raws) but jeez even among the first two volumes there's a huge improvement in Koyama's art. Proportions are less wonky, everything looks cleaner. Nothing like the first volume, especially the necks.

Current stuff I think looks great. It's more moe but still detailed, still expressive and she's still a great at conveying mood and atmosphere.
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>>216972765
Okay.
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>>216972777
Kiyo looks like she's lost 2-3 years in age if you compare the current stuff to the original
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>>216964711
What the fuck is this?
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>>216961111
Yeah, the middle ground between SOUL and the technically better style was ideal.
I never liked fujiwara, but I prefered silver haired floofjiwara over what we're stuck with.
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>>216972889
It's definitely gotten more moe. I imagine like a lot of other detailed artists it also gets to a point where you need to simplify a bit to keep on schedule.
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>>216972569
Was wondering myself. It’s always the first that comes to mind with this topic
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>>216957132
Went from shameless Oda ripoff to developing his own inferior style. Just wish he could write an engaging story
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>>216959449
I agree SE needed at least 30 more chapters. Wrapping it up shortly after they fucked was so lazy.
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>>216957949
Post some of the murder-eyes/autist moments with the grittier style
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>>216957052
No artist has ever improved this much.
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>>216967283
It took me a moment to realized that was a Megaman Legends Doujinshi
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>>216972541
Her latest manga is about regular sized girl
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>>216972777
Too bad anime that started yesterday is full cgi
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>>216965047
Hot damn, that first one doesn't even register as a face to me.
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>>216973293
god damn, I really shouldn't have slept on the original. looks like a wild ride.
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>>216970663
The anime started after he had hit phase 3 of his art. It was crazy. One volume his art looked Kanon derpy, then out of nowhere the next looked like modern Belldandy. It's like he learned how to draw in the span on a couple weeks.
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>>216957758
>>216957052
Both are /beg/-tier
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>>216973293
>>216977135
pretty sure that right panel is fanart
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>>216977719
well shit
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>>216977719
>>216977746
It isn't fanart
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>>216977976
how the hell do some of these manga artists get work with faces popping up looking like that?
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>>216977628
Based, /ic/had. Now go draw
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>>216961020
He can't draw for shit, i love him
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>>216961111
Nice quads man. I don't really like Aka's current style, it's too rigid. His earlier drawings seem much more relaxed, feels like he had more fun drawing the manga back then
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>>216975077
yeah, my fault for not including the all the names of series.
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>>216978012
they submit all their manga works to all publishers near them until one office actually accepts their stuff. Probably works like regular jobs.
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>>216964883
>>216964909
Very pleasant style. I don't read this but I like the art
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>>216957758
I had genuinely forgotten how bland Senko looked in the beginning.
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>>216962238
>before he would be able to even hear about oda

>one piece 1997
>(romance dawn 1996, technically)
>rave master 1999
anon are you genuinely retarded?
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>>216977719
Retarded secondary
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>>216977089
Yeah, AMG went from one of the worst artstyles I've ever seen to one of my favorites.
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>>216965381
Doesn't seem like it changed that much.
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>>216982031
holy lips
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>>216983516
Yeah her art was pretty consistent throughout Magi, I think it changed more during Sumomomo to become her current style.
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Baki 1991 to 2021 still ongoing
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>>216958757
Whait what ? they are same artist ? dang he gone full baki shit route
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Akira Toriyama back then
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>>216979582
Guess part of it is the art quality/style, part of it is that she's generally either expressionless or irritated at the beginning, since she starts up all isolated from others with her weirdness.
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>>216984599
Ishida is probably one the artists with the most drastic art improvements during a short period of time, it's hard to believe that he never even visited an art school
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>>216957052
Rosario vamp
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>>216985529
Maybe it fits the tone or something, I don't know that series, but all of those just look weird and awkward to me.
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someone post the soul eater one, its the most impressive improvement
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>>216961020
I cannot stand this fucking manga. The art and anatomy is so goddamn horrible that I can't even read it without cringing. The anime at least got some budget to it so it doesn't look like diarrhea, but then you have to address the fact that the story is complete garbage. Fuck this series.
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and last

Oh great did similar with Tenjou Tenge
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>>216963443
Tori's art peaked during Z. His nu-skinny designs are just horrible.
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>>216978017
Different artists, retard-kun.
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I'm trying to think of artists who have stayed consistent and the only one I can think of is Nakaba Suzuki. His art has always been visually beautiful, not too stylized and not too realistic either.

Pic unrelated because the anime's art sucks lol
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>>216986075
uninitiated detected
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>>216962121
genuinely soul vs souless
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>>216957949
Sauce?
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>>216972581
Art by the end was absolutely fantastic
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>Nihei has yet to come up in this thread
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>>216989650
There are some things better left forgotten. Nihei only drew Blame and stopped halfway through Biomega.
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Define soul.
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>>216958465
Thank god the genocide is still alive.
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>>216957052
bump
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>>216962573
Right looks like shit
>Lines too thin
>Too white it all blends together into one big blob
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Do people actually look at each post in these threads?
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>>216972581
his newest work is pretty fun
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>>216978017
You're joking right?
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>>216961020
>>216978617
>>216987641
Titans are supposed to look fucked up retards
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>>216986088
Would be happy to see it too.
Meanwhile, just looking at the volume cover can give a good idea of the art style growing.
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>>216988137
>artists who have stayed consistent
Masami Kurumada has been drawing with the same artstyle since 30 years ago, if not more.
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I miss the late grappler Baki style
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>>216977976
Came to post this, I'll never not be impressed with Ohkubo art. It's insane how much he has evolved with SE, constantly experimenting, mixing artstyles from stick figures to very detailed distorted kino spreads. I guess that's what you call madness.
>>216988137
Authors who have published at least few series are more consistent, they've already caught the gist of it, others are developing as they write. Still, everyone is finding shortcuts, changing details in design they like more etc as the story progresses to make it consistent/easier which results in changing the art, but I wouldn't really know.
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>>216996237
>>216986088
I don't know if that's what you mean but I can give you Blair from 1st and last chapter
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Fuck me, forgot picture
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I don't have any comparison pics, but Okabe, Uru's progress has been great.
Sekai Oni > Good Night World > Yajin
Her talent with horror levels up every time I see it. It's insane. Image related is from Yajin.
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>>216958283
All the designs got worse, it likely was easier to just simplify them instead of use the old designs.
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>>216970079
>but left has more soul.
Ah I get it.
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>>216987595
>>216987645
I'm so proud of Rikdo Koshi. Damn legend.
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>>216979808
pic i posted is from his oneshots before serialization dumbass
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>>217002983
Okay and Oda did Wanted! in 1992. Mashima's first one shot was in 1998 apparently anyway, which was still after One Piece started.
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>>216994785
cope
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>>216957052
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>>217003136
And the argument isn't who started earlier, but if Mashima ripped Oda off, retard. Which obviously isn't true.
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>>216963920
I love every single version. You guys just don't have good tastes.
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>>217003448
How is it not true?
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>>216962238
>>216957132
>Nobody ever remembers Rave Master
Feelsbadman
>>216958667
Hoshino is so talented. I've been so happy seeing her develope her art over the years.
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>YOU WILL NEVER BE A 22 YEAR OLD SALARYMAN WITH A 16 YEAR OLD GIRLFRIEND WHO CAN SENSE BONERS

Mayhaps I should kms
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>>216957052
Why does she have so many grey hairs?
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>>216957132
231 is where he peaked.
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>>216994785
You have been saying the same thing for months. You are alone.
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>>216957802
F for my man Kazu here. He died well.
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>>217003866
I know it's bait, but still.
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>>216960662
Good for showing characters but this comparison, I don't think, does a good job of encompassing how "balls to the wall" the art really started to become toward the end of Air Gear to the point of not knowing what the hell was going on anymore.
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>>217004106
Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not joking.
I remember watching the Seven Seeds anime, and the main girl had tons of grey hairs flowing off her brown hair for no reason.
What is this art choice meant to convey?
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>>216977719
Its the scene where Hobo Emperor describes meeting God. Its not fan-art.
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Tosh
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>>217004812
You can see that they're not gray in the colored artwork. It's just loose strands of hair that are highlighted with a brighter shade. It's pretty common. Imagine looking at someone's hair with a bright light source coming from behind, you'll often see loose hairs lit up by the light.
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>>216977976
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>>216969928
Should have posted the MC. He went from this...
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>>217005754
...to this
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>>216969928
>>217005754
>>217005819
Both pretty drastic, though the guy doesn't even look like the same character anymore.
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>>216960635
I dropped the manga because of this
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>>217007074
To be fair, the manga changed genre half way through. MC literally transformed from romcom protag to battle shounen protag.
The author later reveals that he always wanted to draw action manga, but his editor pressed for ecchi romcom.
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>>217002417
I put too much effort into making this, but I blocked out spoiler text. A shame I have to host it off site, but the file is chunky.
https://files.catbox.moe/dbe6kp.jpg
One day Yajin will come off of hiatus...
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>>217008638
Guess that makes sense.
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>>216958189
>>216957932
Sasuga Kei seems to start drawing her manga before she actually learns how to draw the characters. They always look like shit in the beginning.
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>>217008658
>>217002417
Damn, not sure if it's just me, but that quality is shit so here's version 2.0 Even Chunkier Edition.
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>>217000630
Son of Ogre was peak
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>>217008658
Why don't you just split it into 3 parts?
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>>216973110
Its from the mango in the post he was replying to, its called Usogui. Read it anon
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>>217005329
Thanks for the explanation, Anon.
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>>217009464
.... Because I'm a dummy... But the parts are still too big in filesize and I'm too tired to fix another issue. Had way too many technical difficulties... Maybe I'll do it later. I prefer them all in one image anyway.
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>>217009698
You're welcome.
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>>216965031
From Chad to virgin.
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>>217005329
In anon's defence, the OP image DOES have too many highlighted hairs. It looks weird and unnatural. Coming from an artist here, he could have done a few less hairs. There's also not nearly enough lighting and shading in the OP pic to warrant so many. They aren't done in a way that makes sense with any light source either. It's not rim lighting. Just an artist doing too many highlight hairs. Happens to the best of us.
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>>217009974
Well, you're not wrong, I suppose. In terms of the actual lighting it may not be realistic, but for some reason I like how it looks. Not like it has to be realistic anyway.
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>>216967479
It's the character ゆ, meaning "hot water" (as in the baths).

I know there's a pandemic going on, but I think you need to get out more, anon.
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>>216965031
>>216967891
It amuses me that for several of the artists in this thread, improving was basically just a matter of learning how to draw foreheads correctly.



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