Why is this so hated although it’s actually... a good shounen?
I think it bad so it be bad
>>216929278it's more popular than my favorite shounen
Never picked this up, because, just fucking look at it, holy shit. Anyways, there was an article last week or so about this bullshit in my normie newspaper. I think that about settles it.>unironically watching normie animes
>>216929455>unironically hating on something just because it’s popular>admits they haven’t even watched itBraindead
>>216929585Popularity ruins things.
>>216929455>unironically watching normie animes>akko5
>>216929455>normie animesNice bait.
>>216929674People do, not popularity. They’re just trying way too hard to find something bad about this show. At least find valid arguments
>>216929705It is a normie anime though.
>>216929585>unironically hating on something just because it’s popularno, fuck you, asshole. I never picked it up before it even got popular.
>>216929278I didn't really hate it, its a solid 7/10 especially for a popular battle shounen. The backstories for demons started off cool but got really overdone as it went on, and I didn't really find the characters that appealing but didn't hate them either.I'd guess most of the hate comes from how insanely popular it got despite not being that special, like with basically any popular shounen. imo it deserves its popularity much more than the likes of BnHA at least.
>>216929278Contrarians. Also, most of the "people" that hate this are herofags and wanpissniggers so their opinions are invalid.
>>216929278/a/ loves it though
>>216929278Because it's boring as fuck with only 2 or 3 good characters.
>>216929278Memezaki and Shitkai fans seething that their favorite movies got toppled by some WSJ manga movie adaptation by a literally who director
>>216929278It's popular so mentally ill subhumans on /a/ will instantly hate it
>>216929455lwa i on netflix
Its funny how defensive KnY fans are on /a/
>>216929795You say normie and animes fuck off newfag.
>>216929954BASED HAGANEZUKA POSTER
I think the fags that read My Hero Academia hate all the popular new shonen that don't have a gay little pussy protagonist.
>>216929278I remember when the general "consensus" (mostly r*ddit and this site shares the same base) was that My Hero Aca was the superior shonen between the two and I put off watching KnY for a year.Well, who knew, it fucking blows MHA out of the park by every metric except creativity but it's not like MHA did anything good with it. KnY sends me back to the good old times of simple but cool shonen like Saint Seiya, Yuyu Hakusho or Bleach. Tune in, get some sad flashbacks, nice dramatic fights and stuff, while MHA is tune in and.. end with a cliffhanger promising you that it'll get good next time (next time never comes).I swear someone must have originally paid shills to advertise MHA over Kimetsu because it really was everyone claiming it's better, now it's not even a fight.
>>216929826Yeah, I agree, it is a soild 7/10. Hopefully, it gets better at developing characters and the poor world-building
>>216929278People hate popular things
>>216930530Sadly I feel like it lacks at this. Some characters get killed and they try forcing them down your throat before so you don’t have enough time to get attached. At least I didn’t. Although there’s a few exceptions
>>216930406Honestly the hype for MHA came from the fact that it started not long after Naruto ended. people was hyping it up as the next naruto. That plus the super hero boom make it became the most popular shounen in the West.
>>216929954>LEAVE MUZAN TO ME!Fuck off though
>>216929278It's a great show, but some Spongebob SquarePants level retards get introduced as side characters around episode 15. It ruins the tone of the series and leaves a bad taste in people's mouths. Many have dropped the series over them.
>>216930406MHA doesn't have purely retarded side characters. I would take MHA any day of the week over KNY and I like KNY.
>>216931979>MHA doesn't have purely retarded side characters
>>216932253It has retarded MC
>>216929278cause it's not, the animation is single-handedly carrying it
>>216932339Deku is a retarded MC
>>216932352Then why did the manga sell so much
>>216932253Aside from Bakugo there's no retarded main side characters in MHA. With KNY we have to deal with pig head and that orrange faggot guy who is always giving the audience an ear beating.
>>216929278Why is it good?
>>216933533It isn't, mha, kny, and jjk are all shit
>>216933462All the side characters in MHA are boring as shit, I'd rather have an attempt at a character than an entire class of >I'm nice and want to be a hero too! :)I'd also take Zenitsu over the eyesore and waste of space Mineta any day, again Zenitsu at least attempts to be an interesting character
>>216929278Because most shonen are shit and just carried by fanservice.
>>216929954Man the comedic relief with these guys was my favorite part of the manga. Haven't laughed that hard in an anime since Gintama
>>216934137>ZenitsuIs so bad several people have mentioned him as the reason why they dropped KNY. Mineta isn't a main side character so the comparison is dumb.
>>216929278Honestly I hate it because of the fanbase more than anything else. They just act like complete faggots. Like they are better than everyone else. Their threads never have to deal with yaoi fujo spam or porn spam and there is no infighting. There is no "dekufag yelled at miriofag for 300 posts derailing the thread". They just act obnoxiously happy and content whenever a thread appears and then fuck off without starting another. Genuinely pisses me off.
>>216929278I just can't get behind the show. I acknowledge the animation and production values. The manga art is pretty good but my praise ends there. The characters, their personalities, the story (demon slaying series #1009), Feudal Japanese setting, scenarios and how event's play out are beyond generic and predictable. It's probably the most forced success I have ever seen in all my years observing the industry. When Attack on Titan got big I could understand why, there was nothing like it. But here with this show you can find everything about it in dozens of other shows, minus the animation quality.
>>216934540>They just act like complete faggots>Their threads never have to deal with yaoi fujo spam or porn spam.These two sentences contradict each other. They act like faggots, yet don't have to deal with homosexual imagedumps. Okay. So I guess by your logic MHA fans are NOT faggots because they have to deal with homosexual spam.
>>216934669If the anime or manga is good it has to deal with faggots. Kimetsu is nothing but normie braindrad retards that don't even know 4chan exists.
>>216929278I hate it because the art is fucking ugly
>>216934540>Their threads never have to deal with yaoi fujo spam or porn spam and there is no infighting. There is no "dekufag yelled at miriofag for 300 posts derailing the thread".They did happen tho but mod purged the threads twice or more. And dekufag usually shitpost in /kny/ threads.
>>216934540>they are faggots for not acting like literal faggotsKek
>>216929278It's either contrarians or people who get into Kimetsu following the hype and come out unhappy because it's not a life-changing experience.It's a fucking battle shounen and as a battle shounen it's really fucking good.Expecting it to deliver deep and nuanced psychological dilemmas or a heart-rending depiction of the human condition is fucking stupid. It's not a literal masterpiece and it never pretended to be one.It does what a shounen should do and does it really well, period.
>>216934362I've dropped MHA both anime and manga over how boring everyone is and Mineta is part of the problem, for KNY I read the manga before the anime so I know Zenitsu gets better, try not being an animeonly
>>216934540The better the series the less there is to talk about. HxH for instance is a great series so the fans always nitpick over a few things like nen contracts. MHA is simliar. There's not that many flaws in MHA so the fans discuss the same shit every time.
>>216929455>>216929674>letting the so called "normies" dictate what you can or cannot dothis is the most pleb take of it all
>>216935501>The better the series the less there is to talk abouttha explains why MHA has threads 24/7 then
>>216935501>There's not that many flaws in MHA
>>216935450Silly comedy relief characters like Mineta fit in perfectly in MHA's light world. KNY has a grim dark setting where little kids are getting murdered, raped and eaten by demons. A goofy character like Zenitsu doesn't belong in that world and ruins the entire show for me. I dropped it at 15 but I will pick it up again with hopes that Zenitsu gets better.
>>216935756>MHA's light worldWasn’t there just a massive city destroying war Also just read the manga
>>216929278because its generic garbage
>>216929278BREATHE IN MORE OXYGEN KID, BREATHE WHILE WE GIVE THIS FORGOTTABLE TERRIBLY WRITTEN VILLAIN A SAD BACKSTORY, BREATHE!!!
>>216935863>massive city destroying war>that barely killed anyone>of the main cast, single character died
>>216935756He fits well within KnY world tho. The idea behind it was creating a contrast between grim setting and lively characters. The first draft was rejected because it's too grim so it's not really fun to read.
>>216935987Midnight was a gag character with zero plot relevance, hardly a main character
>>216935987Ah so its as "no stakes" as ever?
>>216935863For the longest of time MHA was known as a show where nobody dies. You could count the number of important people who die on one hand. KNY by contrast starts out with the main characters entire family being slaughtered. A goofy orange haired faggot doesn't belong in that setting. He ruins the suspension of disbelief. Many have dropped it over him. I know of at least 6 unique posters who have said they dropped KNY because of him.
>>216935602Objectively true take.Fuck reddit normies and their shit ass Twitter opinions, I'll make up my own godamn mind
>>216934540You're pissed off because they dont have cancerous threads?
>>216936061Zenitsu really is the perfect pleb filter
>>216934540kek, keep seething anon. I'm sure it'll make the MHA anons happier and stop the KnY anons from enjoying what they like.
>>216935602>letting the so called "normies" dictateNo. Fuck you, asshole. Once again: I already didn't pick this up before it was popular. It becoming popular was just a confirmation of my wise decisions.
>>216929674>>216929455You 15, retard?
>>216936106Well I guess that makes me a pleb because he filtered the fuck out of me.
>>216929278Unironically jealously I don't even think it's the greatest thing ever, but you can tell some people are mad their favorite series isn't as popular and probably won't get a completed high quality adaptation like KnY will.
>>216934540Sounds like a good deal, honestly
This faggot is the bane of my existence. I watched 15 episodes of KNY and got really into it only to be forced into dropping it due to Zenitsu being the worst side character in fiction since Jar Jar Binks. What I hate the most about him is that he ruined something that I considered nearly perfect. Like imagine you are eating the best soup you've ever tasted in your life only to find a fly in it. Imagine you are having the best sex with the most attractive girl ever and half way in she tells you she has an STD and you aren't wearing protection. KNY honeydicked me into watching 15 episodes only to force me to drop it with that ear beating faggot.
>>216936061I think you really get the tone wrong tho. It's a grim world with bright and goofy characters.
>>216934637>forced success I swear you retards get dumber by the day
>>216936398We got it. You don't have to samefag about it.
>>216934637>Feudal Japanese settingkek
>>216934637Originality is not an inherently positive quality. Early 1900s is not "feudal Japan" by the way.
>>216936412There's no reason for it's success. It has nothing original about it and to top it off the manga ends on a whimper. I predict it will be forgotten and not held in high regards time moves on.
>>216936664>the manga ends on a whimper.Not really. The reception after the final volume release said otherwise. I started to think the reaction of western fans were caused by their ships aren't canon than by the ending itself.
>>216936664Why does there need to be a reason for success and why do you value originality so much and why do other people have to value it as much as you.
>>216936664I'm still waiting for photos of Japanese burning Kimetsu tankobons.
>>216936664>It has nothing originalOriginality is fucking overrate. WSJ have tons of original idea but they didn't go anywhere cause ideas mean nothing if you can't execute them well. KnY refine and use the shounen trope well to told a meaningful story with consistence them that resonated well with almost all age group. It's the Titanic of manga, do nothing unique but executing everything so well that it doesn't matter that it not original.
>>216936052Shiggy can pulverize multiple cities just by touching the floor, and yet he never feels menacing simply because you just know nobody is going to die.
>>216936890How? Seriously he literally killed his family but he couldn't killed civilians? How?
>>216936795Because I need to see where this success is coming from. Otherwise I think it's been elaborate marketing that Japanese have been hooked, lined and suckered for after the anime aired.
>>216937288It's popular in Asia not just Japan tho.
>>216937288From being well executed. Originality is just a gimmick at the end of the day what matters is if something is done well in and of itself.
>>216936664It made history with the film. It will not br forgotten.
>>216937288A lot of think that are popular in japan and Asia also don't seem popular in the West.
>>216936406>It's a grim world with bright and goofy characters.I don't think you understand tone. The vast majority of time in MHA is spent around the goofy fluffy characters. MHA actually has more comedy than any other shonen series. It's a show that isn't meant to take itself too seriously. KNY by contrast has low comedy until those shitty side characters appear. KNY is dark as fuck and usually has blood getting spilled in every episode. MHA is only dark when the villains are on the screen and that's probably 2% of the time if even that. Even Naruto is more darker than MHA's in terms of violence and blood being shed. MHA is 60% comedy, 30% action and the rest is fluff.
>>216937406At the rate movies are suddenly break box office records in Japan, it won't be lk till that recond it's broke. I think we're looking at a series that panders to all the right people enough to piss them off and has drawn in alot more kids and females than recent shounens.
>>216937662Even before Zenitsu and Inosuke appeared there was plenty of comedy and light hearted moments in the series. Episode 2 borrowing basket, dealing with mole Nezuko, Tanjirou reacting to the training becoming harder, the sword smith, Yuushirou interactions, interacting with the crow.
>>216937662Have blood doesn't make a series dark or grim. Bleach have buckets of blood but i rarely see anyone called it dark and grim. Also there this thing call tone contrast: you can't appreciate the light hearted parts if there isn't some dark parts to contrast it with nad vise versa. They juxtaposition with each other. If you keep one tone for too long it can become tiresome.
>>216937773>Episode 2 borrowing basket, dealing with mole NezukoThat's more heart warming than it is comedy and funny you should cite that as an example because it's one of the few that comes into mind.And training arcs always have a comedy element built into them. All training arcs are built around established tropes. There was always a dark element hanging around the training arc like the fact that the two kids (kids) who were training Tanjirou were ghost who got eaten alive. KNY is one of the more darker shonen series. MHA is very comedic and fluffy by contrast. This is why Zenitsu doesn't work. He just doesn't fit in KNY's world and anyone who disagrees knows nothing about tone. Zenitsu would fit in perfectly in MHA or Inuyasha's more lighter worlds.
>>216937662KnY is a grim world with bright and goofy characters. The first draft was too grim with literally no comedic characters at all so it was rejected. Mangaka and editor decided put them in to light up the tone. You're the one who don't get it. KnY already has comedy moments before that. It's never too grim since that's the reason the first draft didn't make the cut. They even change the MC character because the original one was too emo and edgy. Zenitsu and Inosuke are there to bounce off Tanjirou's character.
>>216938023Or maybe you're wrong about KnY's tone. What you're thinking of is Dororo.
>>216938023Your argument it's fucking retarded because there's also the pig friend who's also a comedic relief, there's plenty comedy in the series and you're just being a faggot
>>216938023There no exclusive between comedic and a dark tone. Good writers know how to balance the tone and when each tone needed. When the moment is relax then it comedic, when it series then it dark.
>>216938023Being just dark and grim don't work and it's not like they didn't try.>However, due to its serious tone, lack of comic relief and dark story, it didn’t make the cut for serialization.
>>216929278It was the hate what made me finally read it, it's a nice shonen with mutilated kids and wholesome moments and what made it better for me was that there's a limit to the power system, so no MC is actually a reincarnation of an alien god from the moon and it's actually a god himself with 500 different techniques that make all the other characters irrelevant at the end
>>216938430KNY established a world that is so dark and dangerious that the reader is led to believe that this isn't a world for screw ups. Even the main character who systematically plans everything out only makes it by the skin of his teeth. You would think that a cowardly moron like Zenitsu would be eaten alive in a world like that. The fact that he is so cowardly/incompetent yet still manages to win kinda ruins the viewer's notions about the world. It's like inserting If we put Spongebob into Evangelion during an Angel fight the viewers would assume Spongebob is going to die a quick and painful death, but nope, our shitty writing is going to allow this low IQ faggot to survive because we are hack writers. Zenitsu was created for fujoshies and it worked. Shame on anyone with balls who defends this character. Do you even have a cock.
>>216938756If what you say is what people actually wants why is KnY popular and Dororo isn't? Even thought the latter has a consistent grim tone to it?
>>216938756Except you learn why he is the way he is and how he’s able to survive despite his cowardly personality, and even why’s he’s a coward Don’t talk like you understand shit when you’re both an anime-only and you didn’t even finish the first season
>>216938756Calling Zenitsu a coward just show that you don't understand the word coward and courage. Courage mean still try to do your best in the face of danger. Zenitsu isn't incompetent or coward, he think that he is because people around him keep putting him down. His issue isn't about him been incompetent but rather he is unable to see the good thing he does. A coward would run away and left his friends at the first sight of danger but Zenitsu had never ever abbadon his duty or his friends.He would like to avoid doing danger stuffs but if he have to he would still fight to protect people.
>>216938873>DororoIt doesn't have a fujoshi bait character like Zenitsu to inflate its sales. Maybe I should watch Dororo if it has a consistent tone as you say it does. KNY was ruined for me.
>>216929278Its nearly as bad as HxH. That rock bottom.
>>216929278/a/ hates things that are popular.
>>216938756They already told you several times, Zenitsu may be a coward at first but he's powerful because of his training. He lacks initiative at first, so Tanjiro dragging him into battle is the same as his teacher dragging him into training and not giving up on him like others did, that's why when he's dying he thinks of his teacher and Tanjiro. Go re-read the last thread when you posted the same comments. Now >KNY established a world that is so dark and dangerious that the reader is led to believe that this isn't a world for screw upsThe world in KNY is just like any other with the exception that people believe "maybe a bear did this!" when they find people dead, no one knows about demons, when someone sees a man trying to bite a woman in the city they think "he's drunk, let's throw him in jail" All demons do is hunt during the night, even that demon that ate 16 year olds, they say "women are disappearing" so they must think someone is kidnapping them or whatever. How is that different from the real world? There are no massacres that people know of, even Akaza killing so many was thought of as a old invented story rather than an actual event. The demons that eat more than others and are on the upper ranks find other ways to eat without being suspicious, Douma started a cult for example.
The seething is getting sad now
>>216933533Well executed trophes
>>216938756The reason why Zenitsu is the way he is is because he hates himself and thinks he isn't deserving of actual loveYou see his actual serious personality come out in his internal monologue and outwardly when he fights Kaigaku
>>216939644what do you mean
>>216939484>The world in KNY is just like any other with the exception that people believe "maybe a bear did this!" when they find people dead, no one knows about demons, when someone sees a man trying to bite a woman in the city they think "he's drunk, let's throw him in jail" All demons do is hunt during the night, even that demon that ate 16 year olds, they say "women are disappearing" so they must think someone is kidnapping them or whatever. How is that different from the real world?That's not the point I was trying to make. There's a lot of weight and consequences to battles that take place in the KNY world. It just feels like higher stakes are involved. Inuyasha, for instance, is so relatively strong compared to everyone he encounters that if he doesn't mind his ps and qs in a fight he can still win. Like if someone cuts a sword through Inuyasha's chest the audience doesn't really have concern because they know of god-dog-hax power. In KNY's world they do a good job of humanizing Tanjirou by reminding you that he's still a child and isn't certain if he's going to survive in a fight. The angel battles in Evangelion have a certain weight to them where you feel like if Shinji screws up the world is going to end and the writers are ballsy enough to actually end the world. When Zenitsu is introduced and we see him freezing in fear (and for all intents and purposes pissing himself) in the middle of conflict, we assume a person like this shouldn't be able to survive and it's unrealistic that he's even made it to this point. Maybe it is revealed later that he isn't as bad as he seems, but it was enough to get me to drop the series. And yes it's true that I'm the only one complaining about him in this thread but there's hundreds of other threads where I've seen others complain about him. Search the archive for dropped the series and you will see his name.
>>216938756>Zenitsu was created for fujoshies and it worked.Yeah the love interest of the MC's sister was fujobaitFucking retard
>>216941090>Maybe it is revealed later that he isn't as bad as he seems, but it was enough to get me to drop the series. Should have said that you were an anime-only faggot and avoided being an insufferable cunt for an entire thread
>>216941215You act as if people are into yaoi/yuri care about any of that shit. Have you just started watching anime in 2020? You must be one of those covid babies who missed a year of school.
My memory is a little foggy cause I dropped it after 15 but I recall Tanjirou at one point literally falling over in fear while the enemy is very close to him. If a person like this isn't insta killed in your world then your world shouldn't be taken seriously.
>>216941682>*Tanjirou*Meant *Zenitsu* but you get the point.
>>216941090One, the comparison with Eva of all things is retarded, if the dead sea scrolls have everything planned from the beginning except for one or two things and SEELE's and Gendo's plan is what it is, were there really stakes or weight? That's on a "well technically" level so it doesn't matter but Eva isn't even about the fights, it's about the last 2 episodes. So Instrumentality in that case was inevitable and the point is on whether or not people choose to stay there or leave, based on their personalities and character interactions they had and whether or not they had some development. >there's hundreds of other threads where I've seen others complain about himAnon no one has that big of a problem with Zenitsu existing, people that hate him don't hate him because he fights asleep, they hate him because of his voice. If you were paying attention in all those threads you commented, some people that dropped the anime, read the manga and liked Zenitsu more there because they didn't have to listen to him.
>>216942062The dead sea scrolls predicting shit didn't make anyone feel any less anxiety. Even Gendo who has read all of said scrolls still shat bricks at various life and death moments. Also, the dead sea scrolls don't have tiny details about who is going to survive and be around long enough to see x plan go into effect. Evangelion had high stakes. If the main character screwed up the earth was effectively wiped out. And in each episode we thought any of the characters could die. KNY also does a great job of making battles where you don't know what is going to happen. HxH also makes you think anyone can die at any moment but most of their battles are just contest so you don't feel the same stakes.
It's nice finally having an MC that isn't a total bitch
>>216942565Didn't Tanjirou fall get down on all fours and beg like a bitch for the enemy to spare his sister's life. Deku was in a similar situation where he had no quirk at the time, yet still tried to save people. Tanjirou is more manly than Deku, I won't deny that but when it comes to heart Deku has him beat.
>>216941433So haivng two male characters in a show is automatically designed to be fujobait? You're fucking retarded and the rest of your posts just make it even more clear
>>216942741When begging is more likely to work, refusing to beg isn't courage. Tanjirou did try to attack after begging didn't work, anyway.
>>216942565the worst part of that image is that Deku cries for no fucking reasonwe see Tanjiro and Yuji crying multiple times, but they have a reason to do so (Tanjiro cries when he finds his whole family dead, and Yuji cries after realizing that Sukuna killed hundreds of people and it's his fault)but Deku? he cries after being bullied, then cries when his bully is attacked by a villain, cries during fighting, cries because someone got hurt. It's just too tiresome.
>>216929278Because even to shonenshit standards its plot is too simple, the story has no depth, worldbuilding is null. It is popular because the anime is pretty, animation was well done and characters have normie appeal.
>>216942949>When begging is more likely to work, refusing to beg isn't courage.Says who? In the first chapter Deku was going up against a villain while he was quirkless. Did we see Deku dropping on all fours and begging like a female dog in heat? Deku stood up to the villain and succeeded at rescusing his friend. Meanwhile, Tanjirou who had various advantages in that sitation could do nothing. It was a 2 versus 1 and the guy he and his sister were fighting dramatically underestimated Tanjirou's abilities. If Deku was in that situation that ax would have landed and taken his head clean off.
>>216942384>Even GendoBecause Gendo's plan was different from SEELE's, that's why he was afraid, he wanted instrumentality too but for other reasons. > If the main character screwed up the earth was effectively wiped outAnd SEELE would win? as opposite of Gendo winning? It's still instrumentality. Even in the alternative ending, the soldiers were ready to kill Shinji, his purpose was over and the plan for both SEELE and Gendo was complete. >And in each episode we thought any of the characters could dieMaybe if you were never familiar with story telling, the other ending was more explicit and effective because everyone only cared about 4 characters and wanted a happy ending and Anno shat on that. It's the same for Kimetsu, you made it 15 eps in and you thought anyone could die? The tension in any of those shows even if they are very different like Eva and Kimetsu, is "how will they get away from this"? up until that point because from a narrative perspective, main people is not ready to die yet, that's why is the train arc is such an important one because it's the part where everything changes and now anyone could die.
>>216941728zenitsu is basically strong as fuck but he has a huge imposter syndrome. he believes that his victories are due to luck and doesnt realize how capable he is.
>>216943411>If Deku was in that situation that ax would have landed and taken his head clean off.No, it wouldn't have.
>>216942741Yeah and the story immediately calls him out for being a bitch saying that if crying and begging for your life worked his family wouldn't have died.
>>216943411that doesn't speak well for the characters that speaks bad for the world. Giyu is a motherfucking pillar and one that is pretty strong Tanjiro beating him would have broke the powerlevels in an horrible way. A kid with no training or special abilities beating one of the top dogs of the setting would have been stupid. The fact that Giyuu spares them just builds that he is more gentle that he lets on.Deku saving Bakugo while a bunch of professional heroes fail that outclass him in powers speaks bad of them
>>216943411>In the first chapter DekuSaves Bakugo because it's Bakugo, not because he really wanted to help>Tanjirou who had various advantages in that sitationKek, you think mountain boy Tanjiro who didn't even know demons were a thing could win against a pillar, the highest rank in the corps?>dramatically underestimated Tanjirou's abilitiesand he still took him out and dodged a rock, how amazing this Tanjiro was
>>216943411>>216943819All Deku did was (maybe) delay Bakugou's death a little bit and inspire All Might to save the day himself, anyway.
>>216944153He got lucky too because if All Might wasn't there all he would have done is get himself killed and possible endanger some of the pro heroes if they went to save him
>>216943628>No, it wouldn't have.You can say a lot of things about Deku but Deku is significantly smarter than Tanjirou. Due to Deku being quirkless he had a chip on his shoulder and used his spare time to analyze everything and become a genious of combat analysis. Tanjirou is just a random ass kid who got put in a bad sitation. Put Deku in that same situation and Deku finds a way to land that ax deep into that guys skull or neck. Even in the worst case scenario if Deku lost that dude would still end up getting mortally wounded somehow with that ax.
>>216944348Implying that Deku was some sort of tactical genius, especially at the start of the series, is just ridiculous, beyond the fact that we have no reason to think he had the athletics skill necessary to accurately throw an axe that far.
>>216944348>Deku is significantly smarter than TanjirouAre you sure? This is the kid that never thought once to actually use OFA to kick
>>216944291and end like gentle but without powers
>>216944348Deku uses his brain but is shown that he needs time to think if you keep pushing him he is not that great strategist
>>216944501>Implying that Deku was some sort of tactical genius, especially at the start of the seriesDeku was always overly analytical. What type of head canon are you smoking. Him being very thoughtful about life and death situations is what allowed him to be successful in the very first chapter when he saved Bakugo. He never trained to get better at tactics nor did he get better at tactics, he was always good at them from years of anaylizing. He's basically batman, a guy in a world of superpowers yet has no superpowers of his own so he makes up for it. Tanjirou was a normal and random ass kid.
>>216944717Not the guy you are arguing with but I'd say Deku was that way and it's one of the reasons I lost interest in the series. He went from an underdog that had to use his head to figure out how to succeed to ONE MILLION PERCENTO PUNCHO
>>216944771Deku was the reason everyone lost interest in the seriesHori didn't knew how to write a cool and interesting MC, so instead he made every single character in the manga wank Deku for no reason hoping that the reader would fall for it
>>216945054I wish this was exaggeration
>>216929278where the fuck do i read the manga bros?
>>216936214your words, not mine
>>216936398>he got filtered by best boyneck yourself faggot
>>216946059thanks anonis there a way to stop the thumbnail from covering the screen every time i jump to a different page?
>>216930835>Honestly the hype for MHA came from the fact that it started not long after Naruto endedIt started four months prior to Naruto's end retard>That plus the super hero boom make it became the most popular shounen in the West.It does well in countries that don't give a shit about capeshit
Cute and canon.
>>216935501The only flaw of MHA is that it's a piece of shit, besides that nothing to complain.
>the movie is going to be in theaters in America on the 26th in three days>but ONLY in Miami Florida GOD FUCKING DAMNIT JAPAN
>>216936833As soon as you do for MHA>>216936833
>>216936844>KnY refine and use the shounen trope well to told a meaningful story with consistence them that resonated well with almost all age group.Cool horseshit bro
>>216937406>It made history with the filmTop grossing jap film ain't history
>>216946907It true. I am from Japan.
>>216934137>>216934137As opposed to >I’m an asshole and want to kill demons!:)That’s not really a difference
>>216934540That's because you didn't see the threads during the anime
>>216935501>so the fans get shit on for having no chapters after 2 years and counting Ftfy
>>216942565Kek>>216943021>the worst part of that image is that Deku cries for no fucking reasonHE'S LITERALLY JUMPING IN A DANGEROUS SITUATION AT THE COST OF HIS FUCKING LIFE YOU FUCKING RETARD WHILE YUJI IS CRYING OVER A BUNCH OF PEOPLE HE DIDN'T EVEN FUCKING KNOW
>>216947422>using the example for tanjiro when he immediately gets put into his place about how pathetic and worthless it is to cry like that>in contrast deku was awarded the strongest quirk for his display
>>216929278It's popular. That's it.
>>216929278Because the end fight was atrocious and ruined every decent upper moon fight retroactively
>>216947525He was literally the only one able to risk his life to save Bakugou retard
>>216947422are you saying you wouldn't cry if your body was puppeted and used to kill thousands of innocent civilians? Is that the point you're trying to make here?
>>216947597So just like MHA
>>216947791MHA is shit.
>>216947815So KnY is shit
>>216947757And that was because it was Bakugo the one in danger, Hori should have made it so Deku would save a random boy or girl, and then Bakugo can still be like "fuck Deku actually did something and I didn't I'm so frustrated and retarded" but since that didn't happen, it now feels like he saved him because he knew him.
>>216947757He wasn't able to. He put his life and danger and got saved because the #1 hero was there.
>>216947945Only when Zenitsu is around.
>>216947953The very first page in the manga shows Deku defending a random person
>>216947791MHA doesn't matter to Japan and KnY does, so it's popularity is not comparable>but muh burguer salesCool, still people look at what's popular in Japan too.
>>216947998Nah all of it
>>216948010>defending a random personhe was a kid on the school yard telling them not to bully lol
>>216948016>I-i-it's only popular in the US
>>216948133>hatefaghow old are you?
>>216948047So Deku would have saved anyone regardless. Do you realize how fucking stupid you sound?
>>216948010And Bakugo shits on him , so Deku is depressed and feels useless, so making him save another person even after being told by his hero that he can't do much, would have been better. It would have accomplished better the idea of "even though they said I couldn't I was able to" without making it feel like he saved Bakugo because he used to be his friend
>>216948103the only relevant country is France and like Japan they dont care about this shit
>>216948181You didn't even read the manga>>216948185You keep telling yourself that
>>216948185This is literally cope
>>216948103Idk about Portugal and Germany, but in 2020, Beastars was the best selling manga in Mexico (With MHA falling to #6) and Naruto the one in France so it didn't get to the top in a yeaar, so find new numbers
>>216948296Cool lie bro
>>216947422>HE'S LITERALLY JUMPING IN A DANGEROUS SITUATION AT THE COST OF HIS FUCKING LIFE YOU FUCKING RETARD WHILE YUJI IS CRYING OVER A BUNCH OF PEOPLE HE DIDN'T EVEN FUCKING KNOWhe's crying because his childhood bully is being attacked, because he's a little bitch. compare that to pic related, where we can see Yuji in a similar situation, but he's crying because he's being dismembered by a curse that he knows he has no chance of defeating.
>>216929278Because the main character and cast are all faggots
>>216948476So you admit you didn't even read it
>>216948476Why is hatefag such a dishonest piece of shit?
>Herocucks getting uppity againThere is more quality in the worst chapters of KnY and JJK than all the best of BnHA combined
KnY is more popular so KnY already won.
>>216949138This, why are you faggots here?
5 episodes in, it seems fine. Not seeing what makes it so amazing, but it isn't bad.
>>216948103>caring about western shit salesThey're a fart in the wind. Japan sales is where it's at.
>>216950007It's a battle shounen. If you go in expecting a good battle shounen you'll have a good time.That's literally it.
>>216948133>>216948437>>216948854Get a life Dekufag
>>216929278Generic shonen combined with insane popularity makes it hated. /a/ would love this if it was under the radar.
>>216929278I find it boring.
>>216929278/a/ is just tsundere as fuck and has been for years. been here since 2008.
>>216950227Well no one seemed to pay much attention to it while it was being translated on /a/ so you are right
Why doesn't everyone in this world carry around wisteria pouches and just plant the trees fucking everywhere?It would be extremely easy to prove the existence of demons in this setting and get everyone on board with it but the demon slayers just don't do that
>>216945054>>216945108I take it you guys don't follow MMA. Kicking and punching correctly is not something an average joe can learn by themselves. Even multiple world champions like George St Piere at one point was asking around how to properly do a certain type of kick and Joe Rogan, who taught Taekwondo showed him how to do it properly. Taekwondo was exposed as a bullshit martial arts, but that's a different topic.
>>216950927they bloom like one week a year
>>216950927Are you familiar with seasonal flowers?Besides that, it only works with not so powerful demons, it wouldn't work against Muzan or Upper Moons if you are one person with one flower in your hand
>>216951019>Kicking and punching correctly is not something an average joe can learn by themselves.That's not really relevant Deku's revelation was that he could kick to distinguish himself from all might as his own.Which is a low bar as a way to establish himself compared to All might given how similar it is compared to everything else in the setting.
Hating it only shows you're a newbie, honestly.The translation threads and LIVE was always on. Sure, it's not the best shounen, but it's the best one of new batch.
>>216951168>>216951203They have the mountain for final selection completely surrounded by eternal wisteriaJust use that to make pouches like the one they gave to the rare-blooded kid and hand it to fucking everyone
>>216951379Did you ignore this part>Besides that, it only works with not so powerful demons, it wouldn't work against Muzan or Upper Moons if you are one person with one flower in your handon purpose?
>>216951445If you handed them out it would still cut down on the demons killing power a lot, saving lives and stopping lots of demons from getting more powerful by eating people
>>216951379maybe they already take/make what they reasonably can. The wisteria mountain is some unnatural divine intervention, you can't treat it like a coffee plantation
>>216951639If thats the case id like the show to at least bring it up instead of leaving me thinking the demon slayers are just super incompetent for not utilising it more
>>216951719Do you think wisteria blooms all year or something?That's basic knowledge.
>>216951771Again, they have eternal wisteria trees all around the final selection mountainThey have a magic source of demon weakness that the show just seems to want me to forget about
>>216950927Demons aren't that common, and on the places where demon attacks are common, people do use wisteria to ward them off.
>>216951543I want you to imagine that with the corona situation now, do you think everyone would believe demons exist and take wisteria flowers everywhere? How would you show someone that demons exist? Would you record it with a cellphone in the Taisho era? >They have a magic source of demon weaknessBut as I said not all demons are weak against it so it's not a miracle thing, used as poison works after experimenting on it, but you would have to inject it somehow and a normal person wouldn't be able to fight against a demon. If I told you right now that demons exist and you should wear a rose on your clothes 24/7 would you believe me instantly and do it?
>>216951837It's, literally, the only place in japan where that happens and it's mentioned in the series.
>>216952018>Make cage>Put wisteria pouches around it >Put basic bitch demon in the cage>Take it to a city>Demonstrate demon shitThe demon slayers have been around for a really long fucking time they could have gotten around to this at some point just to spread awareness
>>216929278Hated by who? /a/ seems neutral to positive regarding this series. Is a lack of endless dicksucking considered hated nowadays?
>>216952754reddit hates it
>>216929795Little witch academia is on Netflix
>>216952134The cops in the city saw a basic bitch demon and thought he was some drunk.Muzan is in control of all his demons and with his cells knows what happens and where they are. Would a manchild like Muzan let people realize demons exist so they can all go against him and be a potential obstacle in his way? He kills demons for even telling someone his name. He needs them to kill the pillars and get info for him, why would he accept a threat like this when he doesn't eve let demons form a team in fear that they could defeat him? The demon slayer corps have wisteria there and that didn't stop Muzan.
>>216952134this page implies that demons aren't that common, and are only an issue/known in certain regions >>216951999
>>216952816If you know so much about reddit why don't you go back there, nigger?
>>216953065Well im an anime only so im just going by what iv seen there, which made me wonder the whole time why the demon slayers weren't being more active in spreading the word
>>216953009Yeah, a low level demon is probably programmed to self-destruct like temari demon if he's gonna be used that way even if Muzan doesn't directly intervene.
>>216952824Really? Jesus Christ.