>>214476193Feels like it's a dying tradition in anime at this point in.
Feels like the show never left.
I can't believe it's almost here.
>>214479303It is here, we've already watched the new episode.
>>214476193The new OP is growing on me.
>>214476193Do you guys think that any of them who adjust their glasses actually needed to adjust them, or do they do it purely for the sake of nonverbal communication?
>>214479485considering a bunch of times characters without glasses adjusted their "airglasses" I"m gonna go with the later option.
guy in real life
Sadly there is no database.
>>214479923the data is all gone
Did they just hand wave the entire volume 11 with a three second blurb about krusty and kanami going on adventures on another server and skip to volume 12?
I can't remember s2 for shit and have no idea what's going on desu
>>214480125they'll probably go back to it.
>>214479929You're pulling our leg, anon. That has to be fake.
so why is kazuhiko so dumb?
>princess flashbacks straight from S1 with different designWHYEVENBOTHER
>>214476193Someone post that gif.
>>214480125Didn't they do an episode or two on that in S2?
>>214479923>>214479973Wait a minute, what happened?
>>214479749I couldn't focus on this scene because the cute twin maids kept stealing my attention.
>>214476193When are we finally going to get a pol pot anime where the glasses adjusters are purged?
>>214480848They used a different song for the OP.
The Odyssey Knights weren't wrong
>>214480820That was volume 9, and it was one episode.
>>214479749>become a cute girl>do cute yuri stuff with your best bro who also became a cute girlThat's the dream
>>214481146According to Shiroe and Nureha, there's actually a way to break the cycle and not revive.
>>214479749Imagine being a maid for an NPC lmao
>Shiroe runs a tiny guild>deals exclusively in world-shaping, high-level jobs>leadership is constantly absent>his kiddies are doing just fine>find regular employment>Commie runs massive guild>has a huge contract job with basically no stipulations demanding oversight or results>other guilds' leaders do more for his guild than it's own do>his scrubs are all dependent on charity>all sit around doing nothing all day
>>214481669I mean if they took an RP class like housekeeping or maid it's a pretty good gig.
>>214481422I'm filled with jealousy
Would you Tetra?
>>214481888Its not gay if its on the internet
>>214481734Plz understand, feiri ringu2jar.
>>214481888God just imagine Tetra rubbing and slithering inside those clothes. Naotsugu must have a stiffie everytime
>>214481888she's a boy, fucking a boy's pussy is gay.
I think I missed something but how does a kingdom appoint a duke over a city they don't control? And why would they think that that's a diplomatically acceptable thing to do?
I started S3 and realized that I don't remember anything at all. Time for a comfy marathon rewatch.
>>214482534I recognize these words individually, but I'm prettu sure boys don't have a pussy.
>>214482534>>214482819It's irrelevant anyways, Tetra is physically a female right now, so he's got a regular pussy. And the longer they stay in the game, he's gonna be one mentally too.
The only interesting plotline in this show is the one where they converted an NPC into an immortal player somehow. I was interested to find out what the implications of that would be for the world but then they dropped it entirely to do more notice me senpai trash.
>>214482932>And the longer they stay in the game, he's gonna be one mentally too.That's not how this works. An avatar has no bearing on his essence.
>>214476193Unbelievable this is back. Only 12 episodes. What s shame. Then to wait another decade.
>>214483148They stated that irl men with female avatars get a more feminine voice over time
>>214482795Is she the preggers one?
>>214482766It's a title. Theoretically anyone can give anyone a title. Obviously it only matters if others acknowledge that title. Problem for The implication is however that if Akiba was to oppose this appointment, they'd be going against an entire kingdom. Acts against "the duke" could probably even be construed as an act of war against the kingdom. It isn't diplomatically acceptable at all of course but that seems to be part of the point. Way I see it, they're definitely out for conflict in one way or another.>>214483148Have you even watched the show you fucking retard?
>>214481734ai, fuck Eins
>>214481888if it has a pussy, I fuck
>>214483287She has a daughter irl, that's why she left the game, returned for the expansion when the kid grew up a bit and she had more time.
>>214483224Just wait for the glorious return of anime in 2032 after WW3 happened and Japan is a global power house.
>>214483377Could've sworn someone got pregnant ingame.
>>214483442that's Demiglaze's Lander wife
>>214483534Dickmagician does it again.
>>214483148Actually it is and does.They went over this in previous seasons that people in opposite gender avatars from their real life gender were having changing characteristics that more closely matches their avatar.ie a male player in a female avatar might have had a lower voice when first arriving, but later on their voice changed to be more feminine.Their IRL biological gender faculties are changing to become more like their avatars.
>NHK supports anime>1st Episode Message to child viewers is COMMUNISM BADBASED
>>214481669>>214481755Get an overskill where you become so good at cleaning you can remove curses from magical items.
>>214483714THANK YOU ABE!
How is tax evasion-sensei doing these days?
>>214483884The government allowed him to make another anime and broadcast it on their educational channel, I'd say he's doing fine.
>>214481734How would you guys handle Eins' situation, though? His guild is clearly too big and its members are not involved enough, but it's not like he didn't try.
>>214483148Quiet, dumb speed watcher.
>NPCs choose the leader of the joke guild that no one respects and whose members everyone resents as their puppet leaderfucking idiots lmao
>>214483714That's been the message the whole time.
>>214484007>what do you do with a massive concentration of unskilled people who are unwilling to apply themselves towards anything?Create a second internet for them to spend all day shitposting on
>>214483884he watches over us from above
>>214481734Yes, yes, just call him a fucking commie. It's funny because it's true and the series portrays it as bad (as it should be).
>>214483884>gets busted for tax evasion>first episode of new season is about how big government trying to impose taxes on enterprising businessmen is bad for society>guy calling for taxation is literally a foreign traitorreally joggin the noggin right now
>>214484007Depends. If I like the direction the Round Table Council is going, I'd announce a temporary leave of absence while I sort out issues with my guild. Sorting the guild would probably require restructuring it, maybe even splitting it up, which runs the risk of diminishing Honesty's prominence in Akiba, but it would depend a lot on how the split up was organized. Ideally the newly formed guilds would remain affiliated with Honesty and under its umbrella, but with enough autonomy to better look after their guild members. If I don't like the way the Council is going and think they are not properly managing the resources of Akiba, I would probably do something similar to Eins and make a power play to secure the funding and authority to correct course.
>>214483884He paid his taxes so it's all good now.
>>214484701The other council members really shit on Eins pretty hard, rather deservedly too.>Isaac: Why don't you guys just do some high-return business ventures too?>Eins: B-BUT WE'RE NOT HIGH LEVEL EPIC GEARED LIKE YOU>Blonde guy: lol our guy who started the new marketplace is only level 50 and hates fighting>Eins: F-FUCK YOU
>>214483714You realize this has been an NHK anime since season 1 right? And it's always promoted free enterprise and self determination.
What the fuck is his problem? Does he actually want free money?
>>214484815To be fair Calasin was such a smug cunt in that scene I kinda wanted to punch him too.
>>214483596Nice. How much change are we talking here?
>>214484965Yeah. Isaac was being nice, at least.
>>214481888>start dating Tetra>banging her cute idol pussy every day for years>work up the courage to propose>Shiroe transports everyone back to the real worldThere are a dozen ways that could end up and they're all terrible. Not worth the risk.
>>214484815Eins's guild feels like the Hufflepuff of the lot, they got all the people that weren't particularly good at anything. They're not savvy traders, they're not skilled fighters, not particularly good at organizing and strategizing either, and don't have any year-1 veteran players who can coast by just on their years and years of accrued wealth, gear, and experience. Eins himself seems like a guy who rose to prominence just by being nice and personable especially to newer and lower level casual players. His guild got huge because they had no real standards for joining and just wanted to create a massive community. Now they're paying the price for that in a world where skill in the game actually means something.
>>214484143Still one of the guild with the biggest numbers and filled with gullible idiots instead of a bunch of warriors like DDD, it's all about influence really.
>>214484815>>214484934My guess is that Eins couldn't answer because he would have to admit that his members became lazy, unless he has other motivations.>>214484965He clearly wanted to avoid the taxation thing, yeah. That was a good argument, rhetorically speaking.>>214484701Splitting the guild might be the best solution there, since the main issue is the integration of their members.
>>214484934He wants there to be an actual government that takes care of people. He mistakenly believed the Council was a government and that the assignments people volunteered for were government projects, meaning he thought they'd be funded from a collective pool of money taken from the constituent members of the Council. Instead, what it actually is, is a voluntary association of the most influential guilds in Akiba, and the expectation was that anybody who volunteered to take on work would have the means to undertake that work with their available resources. Essentially, Eins believed that the Council would babysit his project and his guild to make sure it got finished, but from the Council's perspective, Eins volunteered to do a task and it became his business after that and there was no obligation for anybody else to help him out because he never bothered to negotiate a deal with anybody for help.
>>214484965He's a merchant, he hates anyone that will try to take his beloved gold from him, and while he was being a smug cunt there he's right, being scared of fighting isn't an excuse to be a bum.
>>214484143NPCs dont understand the meta or how levels work. Remember, they gained sentience around a year ago and their memories, personalities, military doctrines etc are all based on hack writing in the fluff by some gook slaves paid by the line
>>214485654He was also obviously implying that Eins had to offer some kind of deal in order to get money, but Eins is either too dense or just unwilling to negotiate.
Can a novelfag tell us what really happened to the missing adventurers,? I'm seriously doubting that they just managed to get back to earth.
>>214485664Anon please, from their pov, it's the weird terminator robots that gained sentience
>>214476193Why wear glasses in a simulation?
>>214484143Not terribly surprising, if the goal is simply the destabilization of Akiba, that'll do it. In fact he's probably the best choice, easy to manipulate. Gotta remember from the perspective of the lander aristocracy, these adventurer upstarts are a bunch of commoner nobodies pretending at playing house. They're good for nothing but quests to kill dragons for a soldier's pay of bread crusts and wine.
>>214482766They probably see guild leaders as equivalent to dukes, so if a guild leader were to join their kingdom and submit to their rule, they would adjust his title to their version. The real question is whether they'll consider only his guild to be their subjects or the entire city to be their territory. Either way, though, they're just accepting an independent organization's offer to join them.
>>214485801So they have something to adjust.
>>214485801How else would you adjust them to show your enemies that you've foreseen all of their actions and crippled their entire organization only moments before?
>>214485766my guess is something related to the fairy rings
>>214481888Question seems irrelevant because I don't think Tetra would give you a choice on the matter. If she wants to literally live inside your shirt with her face stuck on your crotch 24/7 you couldn't stop her.
>>214485600>Splitting the guild might be the best solution there, since the main issue is the integration of their members.From the perspective of the Council, sure, but keep in mind that Honesty is an organization with its own standing to consider. The personal ambition of its leadership aside, you have to think about if splitting up Honesty is going to help or hurt the guild in the long run when you take a look at its assets and what it has for negotiating power in the Council. Remember that the Council isn't really a governing body, and members of it have to cut deals with one another in give and take. Honesty doesn't specialize the way other guilds do so their size is one of their only real advantages.
>>214481888>end of their right hairlock is drawn over the forearm
>>214485757>but Eins is either too dense or just unwilling to negotiate.I feel that Eins doesn't have money at all and that's one of the reasons why he's so desperate to help those in need, you can only take care of lazy people for so long after all and on top of that his fairy ring project wasn't going good, it's no wonder that nobody likes that clan.
That's not what that is. You aren't even hitting anywhere in Asia. You are just hitting America.
>>214485801why do people wear stupid hats and outfits in MMO's ?i wouldn't be surprised if the glasses gave bonus INT or something for their classes.
>>214485850You put your fingertips together. What did they even teach you at villain school?
>>214485028>Fuck Tetra super hard>Get sent back to real world>Tetra can't forget the feeling of your dick >Tetra finds you in real life and and asks you to fuck his boypussy cause he can't live without cock
>Krusty is gone for two weeks>Princess joins Shiroe's harem
>>214486045They taught me that airadjusting is for posers and ninnies. If you want to do it right you need to wear glasses even in a simulation.
>i literally can't get the garbage OP out of my headgod fucking help me
>>214485932Yeah that's my point. The merchant guy has money, and his guildmates have money, but it's not money that the council has access to because it belongs to individual investors. By talking about this openly, merchant guy is essentially saying that side hustles for acquiring money are A-OK. Yet Eins doesn't pick up on this and instead keeps talking about getting money from the Council. What Shiroe would have done in his place is cut a deal with the merchant guy and other wealthy investors for funding in exchange for some kind of service. He doesn't have money, but he does have a massive amount of moderately leveled adventurers, i.e. a low skilled work force.
>>214486104Wasn't it more than 3 months?
>>214486045Can't hold your staff at a jaunty angle crackling with sorcerous power in one hand while putting your fingertips together. That's what glasses are for.
>>214485766Novels haven't gotten to this arc to actually tell us anything. Unless you know moon-runes to read webnovels, this is all new information as it comes out in the anime.
>>214485931Quality thread already getting material for 2021
>>214486125It's a big downgrade but it's not actually garbage.
>>214485931That took a special kind of autism to notice while Tetra's slapping her ass.
>>214486125Probably cause it's actually pretty good. It's just unfair to compare to Database which is GOAT.
>>214486104anyone else notice how hime's eyes were back to normal in the ed?heck is up with that?
>>214481734>>214484007>dependant on charityThe thing is this part doesn't even make sense though, one of the first things that Shiroe notes shortly after getting back from rescuing Serara that one of the biggest problems that the world has is that basic survival is too easy, you can do it on a couple of coins a day which requires almost no work, living good does require some work however. Which leads us to Eins who outright mentions job satisfaction, his people don't want to survive they literally want to screw around and have fun but are too lazy to actually do it themselves, it's actually pretty representative of a common problem in mmo's and gaming in general where people don't want to actual play the game but still want to be top tier with people who do put in time, they want everything spoonfed to them so they can feel some sort of accomplishment without taking any action.
>>214483393>US BTFO of China>hands the coastal territories over to Japan because they're already there and are "ethnically similar">doesn't take any of the blame for the resulting genocide>gets tons of new anime from the labor camps
LNfag can you tell me if they ever cover other servers? i want to see the american server and them playing with guns
>>214484934I think part of the problem that the anime forgot to mention is that many of Honest's members and a few others don't wanna go adventuring in the new setting since it's actually pretty scary and they might lose precious memories. Or they just suck at fighting with their real bodies. Because of that they also can't get the really good mounts from raids etc. so I guess delivery is also out of the window. They still get by, because you can easily get by as an adventurer, but they get incredibly depressed in the process.
>>214486125It might not be database but it's a rock song from cute meidos band bro, I like it
>>214486492Wait, where's that pic of the maids from the anime?
>>214486128>What Shiroe would have done in his place is cut a deal with the merchant guy and other wealthy investors for funding in exchange for some kind of service.Indeed, that would have been a better deal, if it wasn't the fact that Honesty is filled with doomers and NEETs.
>>214476193I thought the author was in jail? How do we have a S3?
>>214486277It's ok, but not very catchy. I liked the visuals more because of all the different characters that have a role in the show, damn the cast is huge, I love it. New outfits for the rookie team are also really nice this season.
>>214485772Their POV is an illusion. Their memories are literally garbled junk that retroactively came into existence from lazily written video game material.
>>214486600Author is based and broke out of SAIKO SECURITY prison.
>>214486104I want to fuck them all, I can't decide. Ok maybe not Shiroe.
>>214486600Prison is just meatspace, it can't hold him.
>>214486644The adventurers' POV is an illusion. Their memories are literally garbled junk that retroactively came into existence from scanning the personalities of MMO players.
>>214486471Kanami and her crew have two volumes dedicated to them set in China. Leonardo also tells them how the situation was on the NA server, at least on the east coast. Europe's situation is also described a little.
>>214486716This is actually pretty believable since Shiroe's alt came alive as well.
>>214486481Nhk censoring blood and shits tend to make anons forget that fighting shit for real is actually pretty scary for some adventurers.For example, I remember a summoner going splat from getting pummeled by something from behind in the lns. The rest of the party ended up staring that in horror
>>214486746whats the situation?
>>214486125My main beef is with the ED, it's pretty forgettable.
>>214486821If I recall, in the LNs don't they physically slit the throats of the PKers?
>>214486315It always happens because there's always eventually a wall that casual players can't get over. There's always a divide in MMOs between people who sink time into it and people who play casually. Once the rewards for the hardcore players start to become highly visible, the casuals start to get uppity and envious.
>>214486104>no Henrietta in it
>>214480125It'll get shown, the shrine and fight are both in the OP
>>214486597That wouldn't really have stopped Shiroe, he would've just given them an ultimatum: get a job or get out of the guild. But he's not nearly as nice as Eins.
>>214485043Is Honesty just a realistic take on what would happen to one of those "welcome" guilds that encourage new players to join and learn the ropes?
>>214486978Yes that's what it seems to be. LH's author is clearly very familiar with MMOs and the kind of communities they have, so this kind of fidelity to real life group dynamics in the games isn't surprising.
>>214486950Knowing Shiroe he would have slowly put all the members on situations where they either swim or sink or just put them in a place where they can motivate themselves so I doubt he would have reached that point at all.
>>214486827In NA, New York/Big Apple fell into complete chaos once the knowledge of thegood cooking method spread.In Germany (which is part of the Scandinavian server), the Walled City of Hoen was the site of a massive civil war between two major guilds. They made peace after Kanami wandered into there and kicked their collectives asses into no longer being dicks to each other
>>214486906Modern gaming's obsession with time limited rewards also cause it, nothing to rile the player base up like telling them they only have a few weeks to get something and then doing it again a few weeks later with some new reward keeping them on a perpetual treadmill that casuals have no chance of keeping up with
>>214484007Indentured servitude. Make membership require a certain amount of work to be done for the guild in exchange for a basic standard of living, which can be provided cheaply through guild housing and the low cost of basic foodstuffs. Then set the unskilled workers who don't already have employment prospects to large-scale public works and pioneering which the guild can later charge non-guild members for access to. By the end of their work period, members will have skills and experience they can use to start other ventures funded by the new income or take positions administering and maintaining them.As the merchant street jew pointed out, you can't just wait around until someone hands you a stack of cash to do something. You have to take the initiative, trusting in the future value of what you're building.
Zantleaf worked for the majority of the population. Basically, if Fat Cat, Teapot Head, and Yoyo want something to do, Eastal just needs another war.
>>214486827Murricans are killing themselves over burgers
>>214487093That's one of the big reasons gacha games make so much money, every week there's another limited rate up event.
>>214487116He asked about Log Horizon.
>>214487116>>214487090>New york city is one big chimpoutThis checks out, good world building
>>214486600He used his libertarian powers to free himself from government oppression, all by simply adjusting some glasses.
>>214486911and that's a good thing
>>214487090In Australia and Oceania, a megaguild à la Plant Hwyaden took over, with the difference that they are leagues less tyranical and remorseless than Plant Hwyaden.
>>214481444Imagine being the guy forced not to respawn again for the good of science
>>214486600Apparently it was all just a big fuckup made by his employers.
>>214487182Highlight of the episode.
>>214486821Even aside from that, imagine being in a situation like this: Caught by a huge monster, screaming at you and with poison around you. It'd be pretty normal to shit your pants at that point, even if you could survive it thanks to being some superhuman.
>>214484007If Honesty's biggest and only advantage is manpower he should be leasing groups of his guild members out to other guilds in support positions. Backup positions for combat guilds, warehouse work for merchant guilds, all sorts of shit like that. It may not be glamorous but it will grow bonds with other players and guilds, put money in your pocket, and is probably safer than messing around with those fairy gate things and getting disheartened when that's all you do for a year with zero results.
>>214487182God I wish that were me
>>214486600The new OP is a description of how he escaped.
>>214486879From the other city? Oh they actually made him an example iirc. I think they cut off his hands first and drag him to everyone view. Then shiroe personally beheaded him with a knife
>>214484007Become a network of travelling adventurers that trade in information. Even Honesty's casuals should be able to take paths people of the land take.
>>214487182I want to live in the world of Elder Tale just for the cafes.
>>214487036That would be his motivation, but to motivate those kind of people you have to light a fire under their ass, and a threat to be tossed out on their ear is usually the best way to get them moving. They'd probably realize in hindsight Shiroe was working to help them succeed and minimize their setbacks, but for the short term he'd have to be an oni.
>tfw S3 took so long that threads will now be 24/7 psuedopolitical posting only
>>214487250There's people who'd willingly take the shot between return to earth and return to nothing.
>>214487182>Play MMO with gf or wife>Both of you play female characters>Get isekai'd into it with the rest of the player base>You are suddenly a lesbian coupleDo you attempt to switch your sex back? Or do you just roll with it?
>>214487500and Akatsuki lewds.
>>214487020Author played UO and RO2 so he knows his shit
I completely forgot what happened in S2.
>>214487527I guess it depends on the gf being fine or not with it.
>>214487527Yeah I'd switch back. If my hypothetical wife/gf is attracted to men I doubt she'd be content with me being a woman for very long.
>>214486978"What would happen if-" is the defining mission statement of Log Horizon. Mamare's a very exploratory writer.
>>214487610Nyanta fought a really hot redhead lander general with a whip on a train.
>>214487444There's also the low-skill by time-intensive work of gathering lower rarity crafting materials. Moderately leveled adventurers can easily farm outside the starting zone so they wouldn't be relegated to just common items. They can't compete with the traders who monopolize exchanges or the raid guilds that get the epic loot, but they can saturate the market and control the supply of certain crafting components. You can even create new demands for items simply by altering their supply. If an item that was previously scarce, and thus seldom used, suddenly becomes superabundant, then its use will increase, and correspondingly so will its demand. At that point the ability to deliver a lot of that item is more important than anything else, and having a large work force capable of gathering the mats is to your advantage.
>>214487500The series is mostly about politics, so no shit.
>>214487527>Do you attempt to switch your sex back? Or do you just roll with it?I turn her into a guy.
>>214487222He brilliantly argued, that he was in fact a sovereign citizen and according to the black law dictionary, and international maritime law, the private corporation known as Japan has no right or power of taxation over his private person on his privately held and lawfully owned property (he carries a jar of sand he owns, this means that he is in person a legally recognized city state with its own laws for as long as he holds onto that jar he is legally invulnerable. Coincidentally he sued the Japanese state LLC to give himself a 1% gross share of the Japanese state LLC tax revenues, for services rendered to it (such as walking on the soil of Japan LLC).Or so the story goes. He has changed his name since then, to one Satoshi Nakamoto. We may yet hear of him again.
>>214487527Need more research on whether actual futa is possible with potions.
>>214487486>oniI mean, he's already known as the villain with glasses so that wouldn't be a major change.
>>214487750Exactly, its why it would work. They would actually believe he'd do it, which would let him work diligently to ensure they succeeded in the background.
>>214487500Also since it's the third season, it won't have newfags shitting up threads with cheap bait. This might actually be a good candidate for comfy threads if /pol/ doesn't catch wind of them.
>>214487727I would put so much of my own money into funding this research
>>214487182Let's see...Girl x Girl -> gayGuy in girl's body ->gay2nd Guy in girl's body -> gayGuy x Guy -> gayFurry ears -> gayBy my calculations this is gay to the fifth power, a force of gayness that transcends time and space.
>>214487802It's passion projects like this that end up succeeding. Honesty would do well to learn that.
>>214487727I'd watch or read the shit out of an isekai where the MC is a dude who gets transformed into a girl and spends the whole story just figuring out how to get at least his dick back.
>>214480848It’s show time.
>>214486104Maybe they just wanted to show the four most fuckable characters together. In order.
>>214487610Yeah, I realized I don't remember this guy at all.
>>214487925I remember the last fight, but the plot of S2 was confusing because CR/HS's subs were pretty terrible and it was hard to figure out just what the "geniuses" were plotting.
>>214486067>get married>fucks her boypussy the Next 60 Years of our lives>Just as giving the final breath of my life i say in very low and tired voice "no homo">die with a shit eating grin
>>214487994Well, that's the big mystery that's been carried over from the WN/LN. Even in the LN they have been barely introduced. Just a few of them saying a few lines here and there.
Honesty is useless.
>>214487791Newfags will also try to claim that old threads were like this and that political retards didn't get shutdown see >>214487699
>>214487139Yeah, but that's because the addicts who are caught up are compelled to continue being caught up. The more sensible retards will drop off as they see other people with things they can't get just because they haven't played every day since day one.
>>214486716I was thinking that myself, too. The only way alts make sense is if it's an injective mapping aka brain copy not soul upload. But at least theirs come from a real, physical world.
>read summaries because can't be fucked rewatching two series>I had completely forgotten about TravelersWhat the fuck. I remembered the Genius stuff but not this shit. Did the anime skim over it?
>>214488453I think it's only ever mentioned in Roe2 letter to Shiroe, but wasn't actually plot relevant at the time, just a setup.
>>214488102and yet I keep getting dumped for being a liar. what gives?
>>214488102Somebody's gotta wrangle all the vagrant players or else they will cause problems, mainly banditry. They wouldn't have a chance of waylaying higher level players, but there's plenty of low level players with nice stuff due to being in wealthy / powerful guilds. They could also hassle NPCs to vent their frustration or just start griefing people trying to do routine quests.
>>214486481I've found social misfits and children were the fastest to adapt to the new world while successful people with high-paying jobs, family and power fell into a spiral of depression.
>>214488559hnngroe2 is a very handsome lady
>>214488453there was a couple episodes that leaned kind of heavy on the moonpeople but it was relegated mostly to shiroe and the mage of mirror lake
>>214478608Kids these days don't know what they're missing
>>214487527>roll with it because you think it's hot>worried that it won't be as satisfying for your wife>wife decides she actually likes it better this wayGives me an feeling so complicated.
>>214488562Not entirely, they were still able to succeed in the production and trading guilds with their previous knowledge.
>>214488562Remember that Elder Tale was not fulldive or even regular VR. Monsters now look very real and to scale.
>>214488562People who were successful in high paying jobs likely have the self-motivation and experience necessary to succeed in a new environment. The people who got depressed were likely not that smart or successful in life, but for whatever reason didn't sink a lot of time or effort into Elder Tale, so the game world didn't really offer any advantages to them over the original one, and because of their unmotivated personality, they wouldn't be able to galvanize themselves to survive.
>>214488534Then create facilities to imprison such players and restrict their freedom should they break any rules.
>>214486783Roe2 is a lifeform that belongs to the same group as the Geniuses. True, she's an alt account from Shiroe, but it's been purposefully hi-jacked in order to interact with individuals in Elder Tale >>214485664The world in Log Horizon is implied to be an alternate universe. How the adventurers gained proper sentience and self awareness ended up being a consequence of the Geniuses interfering with the rules of that universe in order to farm Empathions. The rule being that no one universe can house more than 1 form of highly intelligent life. It implies that the People of Land were alive, and it wasn't until the catastrophy that adventurers went from robots/ accounts following prime directives of finding quests -> defeat monsters -> loot, to fully autonomous beings that could just deny those same quests, build new technologies or establish complex political infrastructure.
As a clearly looking underage female character. Can I sex another underage female character?
>>214489059First off, your mind and personality will change to that of an actual child
>>214476193I've been called
>>214489106No change at all then
>>214486716Personally, I've always thought it was both. Their world just became real after the new world-tier magic was cast. The adventurers all have memories of the "real world" because that was the most realistic way to represent what they are, but the NPCs only gained sentience at the same time based on their flavor text.
>>214489106Hell. Even better. I have way too many mental problems, and I could use a reboot.
>>214483714Glorious Abe-sama speaking truth to Japan about China.
Any recaps for S1 & S2 ? Dont want to waste a week rewatching it again
>>214489340I watched this onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSyyZ_IWsFY&t=10s
Also this is only 12 episodes right ?
>>214488940Under what authority could they deprive others of freedom? They aren't a government, they don't make laws, and they don't have a legal system to adjudicate cases or enforce laws either. What they have is a mutual association overseen by a council. The council creates and then agrees on rules that all members have to abide, but the only real "punishment" they have for breaking the rules is sanctioning or excluding people from participation in the community.
>>214488228From what I remember, the threads were mostly about MMOs.
>>214476193I fucking hate glasses they're so annoying.
>>214489340>>214489395scratch that, that one sucks, I meant this onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noddXFljdk8
>>214488453most of that stuff was glossed over during the kid's arc with Roe2. The note Shiroe reads at the round table was the most info we got regarding the Travelers
>>214486879>>214487434I kind of remember the hand cutting too. But I couldn't find it in the yenpress LNs. May be it was in the early translation of WNs? Anyway, in the lns shiroe actually cut Demiquas head off and took it a trophy>“We win this battle. We’ll be taking your other leader’s head with us.”>Shiroe quickly took a dagger from his inner pocket and used it to sever Demiquas’s head. Akatsuki saw Shiroe’s expression cloud slightly at the wet sound of splitting flesh that the dagger made as he brought it down.
>>214486471We just have some details from the books.I remember that apparently out in the middle of the Pacific there is some mega-ultra-high tier raid dungeon that amounts to going full Lovecraft and summoning Cthulhu as a summoner.Also that Australia is full of really strong over world bosses, but the Australians were the first server to get their shit together, declare Lander rights, and were taming wyverns and dragons to ride as mounts.Also that Mamare said one of the main Europe server cities is in Poland and could be called Kurwa.
>>214486978Yes. As somebody with MMO experience, as no doubt many others here do, it is exactly what would happen, which is why actually good players will look down on shitty guilds.
>>214489194>The adventurers all have memories of the "real world" because that was the most realistic way to represent what they areso you're saying the adventurer's memories are fake and they're really just another brand of sentient npcs? kinda fucked up ngl
>>214486827Europe/UK server went full knights and princesses with adventurers as mercenary armies.
>name the retard who can't do anything but collect beggars dukeTime to start a war.
>>214489433Someone has to take authority and create laws else some rats will create division and threaten to break the whole round table.
>>214481888>>214485028>>214486067>impregnates tetra>everyone gets sent back
>>214487699Lolbertarianism isn't politics.
>>214487116what else is new?
>>214489847Its true. I join these guilds for the benefits but id quit in a heartbeat if they give me a valid drama filled reason to.
>>214485028>>214486067>>214488014>>214490088Shiroe and Kanami's goal is to open a permanent gateway between the two worlds. By rule of Chekov's Gun, that's what actually going to happen. So it may imply keeping their adventurer selves.>permanent gateway>I realize the series will eventually turn into a GATE plot
>Only 12 EpisodesSo Season 4 when ?
>>214490481>Make a gateway between worlds>People go back to their lives but their avatars are still their and sentient>Naotsugu and Tetra log back in and find themselves mid-coitus cause their avatars were fucking
>>214490542That part is stuck in my head, help
>>214490002Trying to impose law and order will immediately shatter the peace the Round Table built. Once the stakes for true power are on the table, there will be a competition to hold the reins of power. Even if somebody fair-minded and with noble intentions has the power, there would be people unsatisfied with the result due to personal ambition or differences in ideology. The Round Table sidesteps this issue with its voluntary, consensus-based approach to making rules. They wanted to prevent the kind of power struggle that led to Plant Hwyaden seizing power in the other zone and becoming a tryanny. That's obviously a worst case scenario, but even in a best case scenario you'd have a much more divided Akiba with far less equitable cooperation between guilds. That's not to say the Round Table's system is perfect, we see the issues with it on display. It doesn't have ways of coercing people with no stake in society's prosperity to follow its rules, which leaves it up to the guilds to keep people in line. It also doesn't really have any way of enforcing law and order, or defending itself except by voluntary cooperation, which depends on good faith of everybody involved. So yes, it's vulnerable to undermining and exploitation by bad faith actors. But the people in the Council probably feel that vulnerability is better than tyranny.
>>214476193im new to this. should i watch the first seasons
>>214490589After mamare pays his taxes
>>214490751yes, very much so.
>>214490751When you read a book do you open the 9th volume halfway through or do you start with volume 1, chapter 1?
The world has me confused. Is it fake or not?
>>214490942Did you not watch season 1?
>>214489433iirc shiroe buys the entire guildbuilding thing, which means their roundtable can restrict anyone who breaks the rules from accessing their bank, home and guild. leaving them homeless and pennyless.
>>214490934I read the last page then tell people who enjoy the series that their tastes are shit
>>214491067He gave up rights to it in S2, and actually made it owned by the land. No one can buy it now or block anyone. That was the Kunie's Gold arc with the multiple raid bosses.
>>214491067They can’t any more though, after the raid in S2, because buying it and paying the upkeep was more money than they could afford.
>>214490751Anon are you okay
>>214490959No, why would I?
>>214491067Yeah that's what I mean by excluding people from participation in the community. Shiroe owns the building via the mechanics of the world, it's his property. The rules of the world they live in enforce his ownership. There's nothing people can do about it. This doesn't give him any kind of right to tell people what to do or take away their freedom. He can just take away guild resources.
>>214491067>>214491174Shiroe no longer has this ability after Season 2
>>214491174see >>214491129 >>214491121shiroe bought all rights to all land in the yamato server then transferred them all to the landers so that no adventurers can hold land over each other (and also because they cant afford the upkeep)
Is it just me or did the episode feel super rushed, like they tried stuffing in so much that the scenes started jumping wildly with no relevance between the at all?
Ah crap i completely forget about S1 & S2. but S3 is only 12 episode tho....
>>214490695This system reminds me a lot of the early U.S. under the Articles of Confederation. The guilds are equivalent to states, and the round table is similar to the federal government. Honesty rebelling would be similar to if one of the states had declared independence and became the vassal of some European Empire in exchange for wealth.
>>214484770lol nohe got convicted and, quite literally, did his time
>>214485664>writing in the fluff by some gook slaves paid by the lineIsn't Elder Tale an American MMO though?
>>214490959I did. I know that it's a game but all these spoilers got me confused.
>>214490751First season is great, the second isn't as grea, but it's still good—it's not Index III level—it is, however, still a step down from S1. We're still waiting to see how S3 is going to turn out.
>>214489857I'm saying there are no longer any NPCs. All people in the world came to life at the same time and are based on what they were in the game. The landers are based on NPC flavor text, placement, and dialogue. The adventurers are based on the players operating them at the time the game world transformed into a real one. The adventurers just think they got transported here because their memories are pulled from their Earth counterparts' (who are still on Earth). The truth is that they are all, adventurers and landers, completely new entities created as part of the still-ongoing world-reshaping that we observe. That's why Chinese bots and alt accounts can be there with their own personalities and why people are morphing to fit their avatars.
>>214489433>Under what authority could they deprive others of freedom?The same authority upon which all governments are formed, the strength of arms necessary to enforce their edicts. If they had both the means and the public support to force people into compliance, they could function as a government.
Wait! What the fuck happened to Lycopene? I don't remember that from s2 or novels
>>214491693yes, which makes it really weird they would've split the NA server like this
>>214492184Pretty sure that's just an anon made mockup that they showed marmalade when he visited.
>>214492222correct, and he said it was pretty accurate
>>214492184That's outdated information, the server now follows American–Mexican border.
>>214476193I didn't realize it came out already since I usually just read the novels and haven't watched anime in years. How is it? Average DEEN quality?
>>214489715>summoner gets to call on the bossoh, marmalade-sama, take me
Tetra is so fucking hot, I want to fuck his boipussy(female)
>>214492184>>214492261This took me 5 seconds to fix, why the fuck has no one else fixed it yet?
>>214492261is there a source/new map somewhere? would be nice if it fixed all those non-chinese countries having to join the billions of chinese on their surely overcrowded server
>>214486600>he didn't watch the new season of Prison Break
>>214492438Because it's been five years since S2, and that map isn't super accurate to begin with; it gives you the rough outline and that's fine.
>>214492486SEA server you mean?
>>214491440The scenes didn't feel rushed or disjointed to me, but it did feel like they dropped us right into the main plot without a substantial setup. The cold open in particular fell flat because it just drops us right into the Round Table drama without any transition from the previous season.Also Season 2 was definitely rushed, and I think that's contributing to the confusion. They're obviously just looking at how to promote the novels as efficiently as possible, which is a shame because they could definitely milk more episodes out of the series, especially with side story content.
>>214492438I have the latest version of this image.
>>214489433>Under what authoritythe 'try to stop me' act
>>214492438no like turkmenistan should fit in the middle east server logically
>>214492640oops meant for >>214492558
>>214492625>the deserted north Australian wastelands>the frozen hellhole of a capital in the Scandinavian mountains>the even more frozen hellhole in the middle of Siberia
>>214490695How would you tackle the issue of Eins being named duke? Or the fact that he's been conspiring with plant hwyaden? If he's betraying the goodwill of the council then it is meaningless.
>>214492695>>214492758Yeah, but what about all those SEA countries? Shouldn't they be on their own server?
>>214492865Idk, I wasn't the original anon. I have no idea what info he used to make the map in the first place. If someone does I could try to make it a little better.
Christ, I don't remember shit from S2.
>>214492758see this is just opinion but I would say the same goes for all the -stans, the farthest right part of india is currently in chinese servers, burma should probably be with india or SEA, it doesn't make sense to split russia, there's lots of stuff that doesn't fit logically
>>214492758>Scandinavian city is at the fucking three country cairn
>>214485931looks like tetra has manly arm hair kek
>>214492865which do you mean? china's gray and SEA is blue if they look the same you might need to adjust your screen
what happened to the kids? are they off on their own little adventure?
>>214490589That depends.How many web novels are there?Since they're dipping into them instead of only relying on the light novels there's no reason not to continue doing so... assuming there's more of them.If season 3 is successful (which I imagine it will be if for no other reason than the fanbase busting their collective nuts over there simply BEING a season 3 after six years) then I don't see why there wouldn't be another soon.
We are getting the China server shit and the knight twins this season right?
>>214493367Season 3 is supposedly volumes 11, 12, and 13.12, 13, and 14 are webnovels. There is no 15 yet.Mentioning the books though, the side story novel should have come out today in Japan, has anyone seen any talk about it?
>>214493367up to v14, and 15 and 16 had teasers shown at an event
>>214493343Burma is in China server bro.
>>214491383>all land in the yamato serverWasn't it just Akiba?
>>214492758>Al Kharid>New Londonheim>Kurwa
>>214493500oh yeah I pointed that out too, that's one country though you said all those so I didn't know which you were talking about
What's the difference between the web novels and the light novels? Which should I read?
>>214479485When I want to make someone understand I'm not interested in them, I remove my glasses and stare at them with dead myopic eyes. That's a form of nonverbal communication.At least it was, until wearing masks became mandatory at my work. Now they slip all the time, which is annoying so I remove them all the time, and the nonverbal meaning got a little lost.
Meh, its only 12 episodes and i kinda forgot what the story of S1 and S2 was.Maybe i'll rewatching it when S4 was announced. 12 episodes is a waste of time for me.
>>214493695The LNs. They are official duh.
Any New England fags getting Big Dig flashbacks? Fuck you Eins.
>>214489686holy shit LN shiroe actually makes his "villain" nickname make sense.
>>214493695Read the LNs, webnovels have minor changes. Shit like the frog dude in Kanami's group actually just straight up being a turtle for TMNT references that was changed due to legal reasons. Other than that, its very very minor changes.
Aliens are dumb.
What killed the hype?
So spoil me Is Krusty coming back this season with a Chinese mongol army?
>>214494662the tax evasion arc
>>214494663No but he is coming back after putting a baby in Shrioe's waifu
>>214494677tax evasion should be a right.
I remember dropping this during the kids arc in season 2. Should I try to power through it, or is it not worth the trouble?
Is Dark Elf kill?
>>214495207it falls under the basic right of self defense, problem is that the government mafia really hates it.
>>214494605based speed freaks can now have all the fun in the world since they probably won't die in an accident and even if they do they just revive, elder tale is a great place to be.
>>214495590Just have an orgy already
Eins is right, a society that doesn't care for all its inhabitants equally is doomed to collapse or tyranny.Without empathy a community cannot be created, if they let the trading guilds act like this it will lead to the splintering of the adventurers until they cannot fight against the people of the land's established powerbase.
>>214484007>>214487106>>214487346>>214487444>>214487675>Couple Anons break the system before EinsHe really is a fuck up huh
>>214494662We've already had a 500+ post thread about it.
>>214495806And a series of smaller ones all month
>>214494756Shiroe's waifu hasn't started menstruating yet and is in the city with him, so that seems unlikely.
>>214495791to actually propose a "government" by which he probably means a fucking democracy like it is the normal thing to do shows that he has zero knowledge about politics, economics or any social science.
I stopped watching in the middle of season 1 before knowing that season 3 was even a thingshould I continue watching?
>>214495791Well you know, "Play the game game but we're not in a game anymore so we can get creative" is a hard thing to really figure out I guess.>>214495950
>>214495951why did you stop watching?
I really like the voice acting during this part.Henrietta's seiyuu did a good job with this line.
>>214495590>tooSo she finally admits she's got the hots for crunchy the clown.
>>214495950If he had knowledge about such things then Eins wouldn't go "Think of the NEETs".
>>214496028fell asleep twice in the middle of an episodedidn't really watch anything for a couple weeks after that because of stress and work
I like the serendipity of Eins the commie coming to power as duke of Akiba right at this moment in time, it's like fate created all the delays for season three.
>>214489715>Australians can unleash their power level since their ping isn't 500 anymore
>>214489715>Also that Mamare said one of the main Europe server cities is in Poland and could be called Kurwa.I thought that was a meme from that fan made map. If it's true it's too fucking hilarious.
>>214496215if you fell asleep because you were bored of strategy talk/politics you'll still be bored
>>214495999These people don't just want an autocrat, they believe that if they were the ones leading the revolution the world would turn into their perfect fluffy little utopia. Oh how wrong they are.>>214496213Exactly
>>214489715>Also that Australia is full of really strong over world bosses, but the Australians were the first server to get their shit together, declare Lander rights, and were taming wyverns and dragons to ride as mounts.I bet it turns out that the raid bosses weren't shit compared to actual Australia.
>>214496715>Common enemy type is "Giant Spider">everyone refers to them as medium sized spiders
When is the volume 12 of the Light Novel coming out?
>>214489715>I remember that apparently out in the middle of the Pacific there is some mega-ultra-high tier raid dungeon that amounts to going full Lovecraft and summoning Cthulhu as a summoner.If I had to guess where it was
>>214496523stop bullying my boy Eins
>>214496951I will never stop bullying that gay ass commie boy, don't fuck with the great city that Shirobou built.
>>214497582You'll eat your words when he establishes global communism (for real this time).
>>214487346i get your proposition, but doing so will only make the eins guild members a second class citizen, since they would only do the dirty work for the other wealthy groups, what eins is looking for is staying as equals in this situation, but since his guild is not producing results whit the gateaway his efforts and resources are being wasted while the rest of the guild are stablishing more power for themselfi mean, i get that eins made a lot of mistakes whit how he organized his guild, but he also made a lot of work for the assembly and now that he is in a bad position he is cornered and about to lose even more power and relevance
meh gonna skip s2 and watch this
>>214495950Obviously not, he's a casual gamer who took a casual approach to forming a guild. It's not exactly his fault for being in over his head since it was only supposed to be a game, but at some point he probably should have owned up to the fact that he is in fact in over his head. Even if he did have the creativity and wisdom to properly handle a guild, the nature of his guild's members isn't exactly useful. That's not to say the guild is useless, in fact it provides an important network for many players who were also casual and aren't suited to tackling elite tasks. All those people do need some sort of support, and there are a lot more of them than the hardcores. But social projects handed down by an institution aren't going to help them, it's just busy work, and trying to organize them democratically probably won't be successful either because they aren't invested enough to care or informed enough to understand what their votes mean. What Honesty should do is structure itself like a university- provide structured classes, provide advisors who can assist with networking, and work on outreach and internships to eventually place the listless adventurers into other guilds where they might be useful, or even form new guilds based on their studies.
>>214485613he voluntaried to do a work for the council, in doing so he wasted his usable power force (the part of the guild that actually do shit) in the proyect, the proyect is a waste of time so far and while other proyect and guilds activitis have been going great he is just stuck whit a waste of power force AND the new players that he keep accepting, he now doesnt know what to do since the other guilds keep getting more power and resources and his guild memebers are now practically concidered "second class citizen"
>>214495791Eins is a casual.I would expect the people here to have a higher proportion of actual gamers, as well as Log Horizon threads to generally have a high proportion of the needed types, and possibly those weirdos who do tabletop too.
>>214495873Akatsuki is in college anon, she’s definitely started menstruating.
>>214497752they're already seen as second class citizens for talking welfare from the guilds that ensure their members actually get off their asses and contribute to society
>>214498078Who said anything about Akatsuki?
>>214489715Australia doing that makes sense. They have three cities very close together, meaning they won’t have anywhere near the chaos and separation everybody else in the world has. And insane bosses all through Australia seems like just another day in the land of everything wanting to murder you.
>>214498226>meaning they won’t have anywhere near the chaos and separation everybody else in the world hasdepends if the cities war with each other or cooperate
>>214498188You said Shiroe’s waifu, so you mean Akatsuki.
>>214498290Civil war is an American thing, anon.
>>214498410you think best korea and worst korea are getting along over on their servers?
>>214498410Weren't the Chinese servers doing its own three kingdom war going on or something?
>>214498226>be Australian>wake up in Elder Tale>”oi Gazza, the spoiders got smaller!”>Genius Mega Deathlord Ultra Spider, Level 240, Class: Raid
>>214496215Maybe Naruto is more up to your speed
>>214492758>DiegoWell, Pueblo was taken but they could've gone with something else.
>>214497803What that you say, cute elf onee-san? Sorry, I couldn't hear you. You see, this underdeveloped midget here used to be a guy in his previous life and he still has a male libido even though his sexuality changed. I have a hard time catching what people say what with him constantly rubbing his pussy in my face. I've tried leaving him alone but he set up a teleportation gate in my trousers so he can teleport onto my crotch at a moment's notice.
What are the chances of Mamare Touno coming back to 4chan to answer our questions? I have a notepad file's worth of questions.
>>214498494China devolved into a bunch of massive guilds fighting each other. Meanwhile Taiwan somehow took over and became a political capital of the server because it used to be the tutorial area but now has huge raid bosses lurking in the waters around it all the time that make it impossible to attack.
>>214498695based taiwan, fuck chinks.
>>214481888Yes and pat that ass!
>>214498694zero, I don't think he even uses twitter anymore
>>214498919https://twitter.com/loghorizon_trpg?lang=enI always assumed he just ran this account
I completely forgot all the drama that happened at the end of s2 so I feel really lost this episode.
>>214499027oh could be, wouldn't hurt for an anon to try tweeting at it anyways
>>214498695Does China also have a huge population of bots that became sapient?
>>214498013>What Honesty should do is structure itself like a university- provide structured classes, provide advisors who can assist with networking, and work on outreach and internships to eventually place the listless adventurers into other guilds where they might be useful, or even form new guilds based on their studiesOh hey, that's the exactly what the round table did under Shiroe and Krusty's guidance letting those that don't want to fight get EXP from veterans and work on their crafting classes to a level where they can defend themselves.
>>214498486But no one in North Korea would have access to the game in the first place.
>>214498695Exactly what China deserves. "Long divided, must unite; long united, must divide" indeed.Good for Taiwan.
>>214498695Didn't the massive guild war end when the two of the leaders decided to marry?
>>214482305They literally gave them the coolest job and they fucked it up. Keep a time log of when you entered the ring, log where you appeared, return to cathedral. Keep a big chart of all the data points.
So since ToS was an utter failure what's the MMO to look forward to nowadays?
>>214500002I'm just playing Dofus, there's nothing to get excited about lately
>>214499623In all fairness it's probably a pretty harrowing job to jump into a portal not knowing where you'll end up or how or when you'll get back. And it sounds like the gates are on something more complex than a weekly schedule or anything like that. I have to wonder what the game designers' intent was with such a portal system.
>>214500002ashes of creation has potential if it delivers even 10% of what the devs want to do.
>>214489917Extremely based if true.
>>214487500and you will like it. Or would you rather discuss who you want to fuck? Cause there are bunch of threads up for that already.
>>214499150The end of S2 was the raid on the tower and finding out that Crusty is with Kanami. We had the travelers letter by Roe2, the shit that the psycho elf bitch tried to start because she is still holding a grudge against Shiroe and co for leaving the debauchery tea party and thus her to rot.
so, where the fuck is DATABASE?
>>214500647Dropped, the data's all gone.
>>214482766>>214483288The UK still has dukes who claim authority over regions of Ireland. And no, I don't mean Northern Ireland.>As of 2016, there were 135 titles in the Peerage of Ireland extant: two dukedoms, ten marquessates, 43 earldoms, 28 viscountcies, and 52 baronieshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peerage_of_Irelandhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_FitzGerald,_9th_Duke_of_Leinster>Article 40.2 of the Constitution of Ireland forbids the state conferring titles of nobility and a citizen may not accept titles of nobility or honour except with the prior approval of the Government.
>>214500647It'll be in the final battle
>Marry and impregnate an npc >have a happy life together>Shiroe decides to pull a Marche and will send everyone home>holding child and hugging wife in the final moments before the plug is pulled>wife begins to fade from his arm>get back to real world >still holding a pile of meat because only half of the childs genes were real>spends the rest of his life on the computer clicking on the wife npc with one line of dialogue over and over and writing self insert doujins about her
>>214500647we showtime now
>no databaseFUCK YOU
>>214501069>>214501017>>214500953COME BACK TO RISE FROM THE DEAD >>214500969
>>214484007Make either multiple or a large wheel of pain and connect it to a generator. Make them push it for pity bucks
>being in a casual/shitter guild ever
When will someone teach her that the most efficient way of farming gold now involves a completely different type of grinding?
i havent been in a guild in years because im socially retarded
>>214501547She will never have to find out about that
>>214501504I dare you call my guild casual. We speedrun Naxx in under 1 hour and 20 minutes.
>>214495678>all the other guilds properly contributing to society and helping the average adventurer and NPC>Eins's guild is just a useless money hole that accepts lazy adventurers into it for no reason>Eins projects his guild's problems onto everyone else then proceeds to take over the cityAre you retarded or just self inserting into this useless sack of shit, anon?
>>214478608You mean new anime aren't doing it anymore? I don't watch much anime beyond 2011.
The only solution to mmo communism is to murder the communists over and over until they run out of memories.
>>214501908did somebody say griffon rides?
>>214501614I've never been in a raid due to a mix of anxiety, spaghetti and fear of fucking upat least I always found friends to do small instances with
I feel it is quite apt that China becomes an in fighting shithole. I imagine half the players were prison labor hired out to gold farming. They did it in WoW all the time.
anyone have link to download the translated ln?
Akatuki's outfit is ugly
>>214501992Free gryphon rides for every commie adventurer
>>214476193Welp, time to rewatch season 1. It's been so damn long.
Where's all the red light districts?
>>214502555off screen probably
>>214502555>>214502726Do STDs exist in Elder Tale?
>>214501834They aren't helping at all, the production guilds are acting only out of self-interest and would no doubt ally themselves with the enemies of the council if it came to it.Eins' guild has problems sure but he is trying to provide a solution to the problem that affects the entire city: those who were transported and unable to adapt leading to deep depression.The production guilds want to just leave them all to die.How can you argue this isn't everyone's problem when many of these "leechers" came from the other guilds, especially from D.D.D.They are just blaming Honesty now that its convenient to avoid the problem they also should be responsible for.
>>214502822Unlikely but I'm surprised there isn't a storyline about two adventurers fucking already and having a babyWe know Demidemi got his NPC wife pregnant so it should be possible
>>214499338The problem here is of scale, there are currently 2000 members in Honesty out of the original 750.Without the help of other guilds they don't have the resources to deal with the issue and only the production guilds have the resources to aid them but they refuse to.
>>214488453Same. Until rewatch I was convinced roe2 was actual Shiroe alt, not a possessed character.
>>214502978>there are currently 2000 members in Honesty out of the original 750.Eins is really rocking that messiah complex.
>>214502961>demi got his npc wife pregnantWait when did that happen?
>it's been five or six years since Log Horizon S2>Log Horizon threads for S3 are still lively and full of lore, MMO, and political discussionGoddamn, I love you guys.
>>214503281welcome home anon
>>214501614I joined a guild recently and my social retardation ended up with me being left out of all the guild activities until the alpha test ended and all the guildmates made a discord together to find each other for the next test and left me out of it. I'm only slightly salty about it desu
>>214502830>and would no doubt ally themselves with the enemies of the council if it came to it.I don't think they're that dumb. Even ignoring morality they know which team they're on and aren't foolish enough to throw in with the side that is bent on totalitarian dominion, laissez faire capitalism doesn't usually flourish under those conditions.And as has been said a dozen times by now, they did all put an immense amount of resources into public support, getting every adventurer in the city up to level 50 which means nothing anywhere near them is a real threat, and it takes 20 minutes of killing infinitely respawning trash mobs 5 minutes walk outside the gates to feed yourself for a week. As far as basic needs go they're essentially post-scarcity. No one is in any danger of starving. The problem is that the plebs have nothing to do and are butthurt about it. It's been a problem several times over the course of the series and every time Shiroe and the council have barely staved off the problem while also navigating other much more immediately dangerous crises. At this point everyone's standard of living is pretty good, they've got the tools they need to support themselves, and they're part of a massive support network of similar people. Sure they got dealt a pretty raw deal with the whole Apocalypse thing, but Shiroe is even working on that for them too. Eins' problem is that he ISN'T trying to provide a solution, he's asking the other guilds to provide it for him. Either he's just not competent enough for the job or the plebs he's trying to help are beyond any assistance, but aside from sending someone to do his job for him there's nothing the other guilds can really do.
>>214476193There a new log horizon?
>>214503409Remember that game we had with damedame? Good shit.
>>214501614I have entered guilds multiple times, yet I have recurring chronic issues that make it hard for me to do anything including play mmos. After taking a break for ~1 month for health and RL I am too socially awkward to return. I have probably left about 10 guilds because of this and even made an entirely new character almost every time so I didn't have to explain leaving.
>>214503281and there's another thread of the same up too >>214479760
>>214503442>the plebs he's trying to help are beyond any assistanceI think it's this actually. Aren't most of them in despair and trauma land?
>>214503736That just means the council is all the more stupid to decline helping them. A mass of publicly shunned individuals with broken minds and too much time on their hands is a threat to the entire city.
>>214503442I think the worst part about his guild is that it is universally thought of as the guild that does nothing. Anyone who wants to work or accomplish something would leave and join/start another guild. The only people in his guild are those who, for one reason or another, lack the ambition to work beyond what is required to survive. Anyone who doesn't fit this description is slowly getting pushed out and replaced by more NEETs
>>214503553Anon no, think on your bros that miss you.
>>214503827And unlike our world they couldn't just bite the bullet
>>214503827Dunno anon, one of the problems is how they're so unmotivated that they barely do the bare minimum to survive, if anything I doubt they give a shit about anything.
Where can i read the LN bros? Madokami only have til volume 8.
>>214504271motivating the peons is the job of the leadership. that's true for any civilization with any form of government. a working class that doesn't want to work is an active detriment
>>214503281nothing like home
>>214503382what game anon?
>>214503736Some of them, but I think most are just aimless. The fat furry and his gang from this episode just looked like normal dudes wandering in the market and hanging out under a tree, not sitting in a corner hugging their knees or something. He apologized politely to Akatsuki instead of stumbling away dead eyed and mindbroken.>>214503827And again, they've done exactly that like 4 times on screen. Throwing money at them isn't going to help, it's a culture problem and you can only hold so many cultural festivals. Taxing the fuck out of the productive guilds just to distract them temporarily with menial labour is clearly not the solution. >>214503830 has the right of it I think, at this point the whole guild is basically a self fulfilling prophecy of failure, not helped by their failure to accomplish the task they were assigned. I'll be charitable and assume it's just bad luck they got the one that's basically impossible rather than incompetence. >>214504356Eins is the leadership
>>214504306I saw 11 volumes on nya
>>214504271This is why he wants the public works projects, a simple but fulfilling task to occupy their minds uplift their spirits.The production guilds have constantly showed they don't wanna help with anything that doesn't give them a profit for some retarded reason despite the problems clearly affecting them too.
>>214499413One person would.
>>214504704The thing is the members of said guilds managed to do so by themselves and while it affects everyone this is clearly Eins' problem, he's the one that decided to take in all those adventurers and either didn't bother to motivate them or help them to reintegrate society like the other guilds did or he just sucks at being a leader, Honesty is a really big guild if everyone helped the newcomers then this wouldn't be a problem in the first place, hell, with the sheer number of adventurers Honesty should be an important guild but instead is a confederation of unmotivated NEETs, the biggest mistake of Eins was to believe the Round Table was going to wipe his ass when every other guild had their hand full with their own issues and then he has the audacity to propose to tax the bigger guilds in S2 and now he wants them to create jobs out of nothing paid with money it doesn't exist, fuck that guy.
>>214498695Hell yeah motherfucker
>>214504704There are multiple public works projects going on though, Honesty is even getting called out on that. The Fairy Rings exploration they fucked up is publicly funded, there are many administrative jobs, weekly festivals to participate in as well. Even levelling the players to 50 was an endeavor funded by the big guilds. You can't expect the other guilds to keep flushing down more and more money on Honesty. Also, while Charasin might be a cunt, Roderick's guild is doing research and advancing the whole society with their findings like the Flavour text stuff or defeating the genius of measures. Mikitaka's guild created engines and heating and we see Woodrow creating a mail service. All of them are clearly creating jobs AND helping the public with their projects. And even Charasin, as smug as he is here helped with the missing people cases and the communication networks.Honesty is completly aimless right now, they were supposed to be a guild that writes guides and helps new players. They could established themselves as many different things, from contracting to other guilds, being a general teaching guild, becoming scribes or Lander's relationship diplomats with their knowledge of the game world.
>>214504704>This is why he wants the public works projects, a simple but fulfilling task to occupy their minds uplift their spirits.What stops them from doing that in the first place?I have seen nothing from the show saying that the crafting guilds have dibs on any sort of market.The only rule to crafting in the show is that you must be a subclass relating to it and even then you could change to apprentice to learn new skills. Public works imply fixing roads making fountains and gardens. You don't need 330000 gold "investment" to make a fucking flower bed.They all understand the rule that the system cannot do it for them. As said in the thread, they seem to be motivated enough to do there minimum 20 mins in the Forrest to get food and rooms. What is an extra 5 mins on top to gather a few bricks and slap them together to make a new wall?
>>214487720wtf is this real
>>214496081>you will never be a ninja loli being molested by a lonely office ladyWhy even live?
>>214505429To become the lonely office man.
>>214505470If you have to ask, you need to lurk more.
>>214505554my main board is /v/ so sorry if I don't know /a/'s hanging spot. I only go here when the series I followed release a new chapter or episode.
Do they actually need glasses or is it purely for stats?
>>214505200It must be very bad leadership.There is stuff to do without even seeing combat.The diplomatic tie to to Eastal, would present countless none combat jobs.>Helping a farmer lander, bring grain in>Book keeping for some faggot noble.That mage Regan would give adventures some shit to do just to up his own knowledge.Even if you were Shiroe's fucking coffee boy. There are clearly enough things to do.By doing this they even bring themselves closer to going home.
>>214505629That's the main problem indeed, it feels like Eins knows but doesn't want to admite that his guild is filled with NEETs and lazy bums.
>>214505200The Fairy Rings wasn't a fuckup its just incredibly complex and they need to put a lot of work into it, blaming Honesty for that shows how they are being used as a scapegoat for the city's problems.>They could established themselves as many different thingsThey might have been able to become something but they are flooded with the mentally ill people from the other guilds who decided to ignore them, and now they also blame Honesty for that as if they were somehow responsible for these people existing.How is this not bullshit? They are just trying to avoid their responsibility towards these people.>>214505233As far as I know those guilds control most of the materials market and most crafters, there is nothing that can be done on a large scale without their help.>>214505099A mass of mentally ill people affects the mood of everyone in the town, these people being down will inevitably spread and cause a wave of depression.Pointing fingers trying to find someone to blame is useless, the issue will remain a risk to the city.
>>214505363Obviously, how else would Season 3 be out despite him being caught evading taxes from 47 nations at the same time?
>>214505620Touya regained use of his legs, so glasses are actually extraneous because Adventurer bodies have perfect vision unless stated otherwise.
>>214505363No.Basically he was used to hobbyist projects where you don't have to worry about tax, but actually you *do* have to pay tax on those if your income rises above a certain threshold. Some guys like ZUN tweeted about the case when it happened, saying they almost made the same mistake.
>>214505620I could have sworn I'd seen a gear diagram for Shiroe that said his glasses had some incredibly minor stat thing but now I can't find it.
>>214505200The bigger problem with the Fairy Ring project is that if you warp into another server zone you are effectively cut off from your contacts until you reenter the zone of your original server.
>>214504704He needs to come up with his own market to fill or suffer his guild fading into obscurity. The main problem with honesty is that there is no ambition in the guild at all. They have no purpose currently and only decided to investigate the rings on a whim basically. They needed to find an actual reason for their guild to exist, and pursue it. None of the other big guilds of the round table just sat around and did nothing to further themselves over the past year. Only Honesty has stagnated and they are suffering because of it. It has snowballed to the point where they have thousands of members who, for the most part, don't seem to want to do anything. The only solution is massive restructuring or disbanding the guild entirely. Either way, it has to come from the guild itself.Instead of this, he opted to swear fealty to a foreign realm the round table is currently hostile with. This can only end by making his situation worse as he lacks the power to take control of Akiba.
>>214505853>they are being used as a scapegoat for the city's problemsNo, it just shows that they're hated for their lack of results. It may be unfair in this case, as it's a very difficult task, but the fact is that other guilds are doing things that are visibly helping society and Honesty is a money pit. They can't help but wonder if the rings would be up already if the job had gone to someone else.
>>214505853>As far as I know those guilds control most of the materials market and most crafters, there is nothing that can be done on a large scale without their help.That is absolute bull fucking shit. The show has explained that once monsters respawn they are given items and gold back. There are 2000 Honesty members. They can't even buy zones to keep rivals out.Shit i bet they could camp the zone entrance to a popular farming raid and shut out any other guild in the process. We have seen numbers beat level 90s in the show before.And the rules of the Round table says that only camping of the lower level zones is forbidden.This is a clear cut leadership miss step or by design.
>>214504704go read economics in one lesson, please.
>plying shrink to 2000 guildmates by yourselfEins never signed up for this, but he sure walked into it.
>>214505853>there is nothing that can be done on a large scale without their help.Then they should start small, the thing here is that they're just unmotivated and this has been a thing since season 2, the thing is Eins is too blame because he is doing shit besides asking for gibs, he has one of the largest guilds and you are saying that he can't command his men to help and support other adventurers so it becomes a chain reaction where everyone helps everyone? He's clearly an inefficient leader and one of the reasons why the situation got out of hand, literally every other guild leader that we know would have it's own way to solve this issue.
>>214505853Yes, the Fairy Rings are complex and might have changed that is true and not being able to figure them out perfectly is not all on Honesty. Still, they are a guild based on writing guides and and helping newbies understand the game. That's some very useful knowledge that can potentially create a lot of jobs and capitals. From training newbies, to even training Landers, to becoming publisher's for their guides or even just creating newspapers. There's a lot of things the Honesty leaders could have done but didn't.It seems they just take everyone in and give them nothing to do except handing out welfare and the failedFairy Ring project and then trying to force everyone else to pay for them taking in literally everyone.
>>214506226His original 700+ assuming they are still there is likely fine though
>>214505982You can tell ET is an oldschool mmo because nothing made in the last 20 years would have a mechanic like Fairy Ringsbut getting a bunch of summoners that know the familiar swap spell would make it pretty easy
>>214502822Unless there's some sort of magically engineered plague, I suspect that Clerics have most diseases under wrap.
>>214503449Airing in the same season as the new Non Non Biyori. What a time.
>>214506359Literally this. The connections are time based, so they just need to map times to gates and they should be able to figure at least some of it out. Honesty had the opportunity to at least map out some routs with the fairy rings and begin creating outposts around them worldwide. They could have become an international relations/trade guild but they couldn't think of a way to take advantage of their situation.
>>214502961>two adventurers fuck and one gets pregnant>because they don't have the babymaking subclass the baby comes out as cardboard mush in the shape of a baby
>>214506566Remember that time people in WoW unsummoned their pets while fighting a high-level disease boss, then summoned them again in major cities filled with low-level players?
>no giraffe girl>DDD aide still has her armwhat gives
>>214506698And then real world immunologists and FEMA used it to study the spread of viruses and chemical warfare
>>214506698It has its own Wikipedia page evenhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupted_Blood_incident
>>214506702She was given a robot arm.
>>214506359Well, an MMO whose regional servers actively coordinate with each other to share data is a giant nightmare to their respective governments, so it can only ever be a fantasy.
>>214506733Yeah but they decided it wasn't entirely reliable because there was totally no way people would disregard everyone's safety and intentionally spread a deadly disease in real life.
I can't remember shit from the last two seasons, i need a quick rundown
>>214506879It's easy to spread a disease when you're not inconvenienced for merely carrying it around. Like playing a long game of tag.
>>214506879Don’t worry anon, I had a chuckle.
>>214506072Yeah I have no idea what he's hoping to do by siding with a foreign realm when he hasn't created any networks of support within the other guilds to perform a coup, so far it seems extremely harebrained.Even if Honesty disappears the leachers still will exist, the problem is not with means or strength, they have no will and will be a drain on the city no matter how much they avert their eyes.>>214506133Most of these 2000 members will not participate or produce very little even if they grind, you cannot force them to do it or kill them as they are morally opposed to doing this.>>214506284Eins being incompetent doesn't remove the issue at hand, he's clearly in over his head and the other guilds are aware and not being very helpful.>>214506303Honesty simply doesn't have the resources to take care of the 2000 members its made out of I really don't know what you expect Eins to do with a mass of depressed adventurers who just want to go home.
>>214506359Did familiar swapping actually work before the Catastrophe? Or was it a new thing that Shiroe’s pal came up with?
>>214507108I think it was just a normal skill, but it was in the volume they compressed into a single episode and I haven't read the LNs so I'm pretty light on details
>>214506879>implying the C is real
>>214507020Trapped in game, food sucks,food got fixed,round table made,Politicking with lords,people on moon,RAIDS for jew gold,gender swapping and finally communist infiltrators try to take down the state with NEETs.
>>214507078>you cannot force them to do it I bet you could.
>>214507108Castling is an emergency escape spell accessible by all Summoners, but it's not known whether you have to put points towards it first. Judging by the fact that it "sacrifices" the summon, it might not actually be a common skill because that's antithetical to the general Summoner playstyle of having the summons fight in your place.
>>214506630They tried to send people through I thought but they can't come back because they don't know the timing on the other side.Its probably not just time based considering it was too complicated to remember, as an example here's the ultima online moongate system.I imagine its more complex.
>>214505946And he got jailed because he still refuse to pay even after he found out about the rule?
>>214507196Damn, yeah i need to rewatch or read the LN.Is the LN translation up to date? 5 years ago it didn't even go past the anime
>>214507108It's a normal skill.One of the new things was the "Crimson Contract" Overskill the Minami guy has>Summoner can defeat certain raid bosses to get the ability to summon a nerfed version>Travel back to said raid boss and offer to renegotiate the terms of your summoning contract>Now you can summon the actual raid boss instead of a nerfed version, but you don't control it any more, and have to rely on it being grateful enough to help you out sometimes
can anyone recall a nobody mmoNPC that became popular as a meme, like if there were a "cult of Raynessia" in elder tales? discussing it here >>214479760>>214507477he eventually paid
>>214507558Most recent Yen Press translation is Volume 11, and that was on January 2019. I think Volume 12 is still being collated.
>>214507585>The huge scary dragon you've contracted with promptly transforms into a loli and starts lazing around eating all your food
>>214507657She also beat and break the shit out your sturdy adventurer body when she is bored
>>214507477Are we talking about Mamare?He was confused about how the taxes worked and thought the publisher was handling it, but they weren't so he owed a decent amount. The japanese IRS or whatever sent him to court to recoup it, they talked it out and he paid what he owed, but because it did go to court and japan is japan and they need to maintain their 99% conviction rate he still got found guilty and sentenced to 10 months in prison, but the sentence was suspended for 3 years, which means he won't actually have to serve any time because when 3 years come up they'll just go "Good behaviour, you're free to go". And that was 4 years ago and afaik he never did so it was all just meaningless paperwork.
>>214507726Is this a bad thing?
>>214507942+ points of having her around obviously
>>214507108You had it as a skill, but the effectiveness of all skills in Elder Tale is dependent on how many levels you put into it, same as how Shiroe’s Thorn Bind Hostage is maxed out and then leveled beyond the maximum with some raid reward boosts.My expectation would be that Castling normally has a range limitation or a time limitation. Otherwise you’d just put one point in and then forget about it.
>>214507460They literally can come back though, did you not read the spoiler? Just use summoners.
>>214507558It's up volume 11. I think everyone should read v9 at least desu
>>214507657She is also very clingy and will start crying if you leave her alone for too long.
>>214508231Delete this, this is not Ga-tan.
>>214507650>>214508184I plan on reading the entire thing from the start but how far into the anime is V11?
>>214508147From the novel the gates now work on a 6 month schedule with an added unknown random factor that was causing the issues for Honesty
>>214508326The thing is that Season 3 is using material from Volume 12, but those eyecatches of Krusty in the OP might mean we'll get to revisit Volume 11's events later.
>>214507871ehhh if they can make combat smoother and have more content maybe we will meet there.
>>214508559Even without knowing the schedule, you could attempt to make outposts on the other side. If a summoner always leaves a summon on both sides, they can at least gain some benefit from the long distance teleportation. Be it trade or just communication.
Which one was Shiroe's Teaching again?
>>214508863making rudy into an adventurer
>>214508863Hacking reality via contracts
>>214508832For sure. I was impressed with what I saw in the preview test thing and think it did some really cool things for the genre but it really lacked content in all areas. I'll wait and see what the game looks like at launch before spending any money on it.
>>214508950>>214509030Oh yeah, the contracts.
>>214508863Contracts that bend reality to its exact words according to the combined power of its materials.
>>214508863World class magic, but specifically he realized that spells based around item use have their strength tied to item rarity.
I can't believe Haurchefaunt fucking betrayed us
>>214508728I see it's one of those situations, understood thanks for the info.