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>ADMIRAL WAKE UP THE FORTRESS IS UNDER ATTACK
>aaaaahhhhh have you tried shooting at them?
>We will now sir
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>>205152967
>>>205152967
GODDAMN YOU YANG WENLI YOU CRAFTY SON OF A BITCH HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO ANTICIPATE HIS TACTICS YET?

>NO KAISER ITS INSANE WR SIMPLY CANNOT DETERMINE THIS MAD MANS NEXT MOVE
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>>205152967
THIS SON OF A BITCH HAS STUMPED US ALL ONCE AGAIN
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>>205152967
Miracle yang does it again
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IN A GALAXY OF SNEAKINESS
THE RANDOM DRUNKARD
WILL PREVAIL
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>>205152967
>dies because he took his sleeping pills
will never not be funny.
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>>205152967
>admiral what's your plan to retake the fortress this time?
>I left a computer virus there, hopefully Reuenthal didn't update the antivirus software
YANG THE MAGICIAN DOES IT AGAIN LADS
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>>205152967
GUYS I'VE FIGURED OUT HOW TO COUNTER HIS SHOOTING STRATEGY
MINES
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>>205153755
HOW DOES HE KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT?
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>>205153070
FUCK IT
OKAY SO SINCE WE CANT POSSIBLY WIN
WE ARE GOING TO JUST LOSE MORE SLOWLY THATS GOING TO BE ENOUGH FOR MITTERMEYER AND REUNTHAL TO CAPITULATE THEM
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>>205153838
you need to go back or get better bait newfriend.
2/10
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GUYS GUYS, WHAT IF
GUYS
WHAT IF WE JUST TAILGATE THEIR SHIPS
AND MAKE A ROUND OR SOMETHING
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>mfw semi-circle wins again
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>Reinharto-sama, what do we do if the alliance attacks us while we take care of the Prince and the traitorous nobles that sided with him?
>do not worry, I sent a discredited traitor back to the alliance with a piece of paper detailing a plan to start a coup d'état, if he follows it he'll do just fine
>what, may I ask, is written in the paper?
>hehehe guess
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>>205153915
PST FUCK OFF BUDDY
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD REALLY BE SMART?
JUST FUCKING RAMMING THEM. NOT ONE STEP BACK
BLACK LANCERS FOREVER!
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>>205153838
>it's another American trying to derail the thread
not this time faggot
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>>205153958
how can one man be so based?
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>>205153946
>>205153755
The fact that these were actual plot points makes it even funnier
How did they get away with this
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>>205153838
The message of the show is that it doesn't matter how good your ideology is, as long as you have idiots/evil people in charge, it's going to be shit. The story shits on many ideologies and Yang is the author's self insert who is a leave me alone libertarian.
>>205153755
The story is written by a tech illiterate literature major in the early 80s, give him a break.
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>>205154013
dumb fag got best admiral killed because of his stupidity, I enjoyed watching Oberstein tearing him apart everytime they interacted
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>>205154013
He's a simple man
He doesn't pretend to be smart. He knows what works for him and what doesn't, and that happens to be just going all offence.
He may be called, and I hate this phrase because it's really misused, but a based retard
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>>205153886
>leftist democracy is shown to be degenerate and inefficient
>rightist absolute monarchy with a wise dictator is shown to be highly superior once the nobility is put on a leash
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>>205154094
yes, left-wing bad, right-wing good.
now go back to your containment board
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I tried to draw that scene, as it's my fave
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>tfw incompetent idiots didnt fight in GLORIOUS HAND TO HAND COMBAT and rely on guns
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>>205154094
What’s inaccurate about this?
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>>205153946
Coup d'état has happened. What to do?
>A. Keep politically neutral and take advantage of the civil war to attack the Empire.
>B. Play Reinhard's game, destroy another FPA's fleet and restore Trunicht.
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>>205154094
Yes.
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>>205154094
Yes.jpeg,get btfod libtard.
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>>205154044
It was written in the '80s, and probably inspired by the many historical occasions where defenders would withdraw from a defensive emplacement but leave it mined.
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>>205157429
Even Japanese students did this like at Narita airport
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>>205154170
Don't quit your dayjob.
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>>205154209
wasn't he wielding an axe against an unarmed reuenthal?
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>>205158061
>unarmed
he had a fucking lazer gun
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>>205158061
Dagger wielding Reunthal iirc.
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Thanks for shilling this show to me /a/ it's so based and I would've never found it on my own
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>>205154209
>Infamous soldier, leader of the rozenritters or whatever
>Reuenthal fights him man to man and doesn't get obliterated
That's one of the more disappointing scenes in the anime. No way some snooty asshole who probably doesn't even train anymore could fend off an elite soldier like that.
>>205158061
Lol you posted that while i was typing out the above.
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>>205154013
He's a sophisticated gentlemen. Here he is shown enjoying theater.
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>>205158235
Good on you anon, its our duty to shill it for eternity especially now that its more convenient to download than the days of the ancient Kansas Subs torrents.
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>>205158250
Reuenthal came up the ranks man, guy can fight and has hand to hand experience
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>>205158250
Reuenthal and Mittermeyer were once foot soldiers as well.
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>>205154232
>>205156994
Not even being sarcastic about it. I'm glad we agree.
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It's incel astrology time, are you okay with the portrayal of the characters on this list?
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>>205158250
kircheis also fought him to a standstill in the gaiden
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>>205160201
iirc kircheis reuenthal and mittermeyer are the three admirals with shown experience as infantry
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>>205153868
Man, Reinhard sure was a loser. Even with 5 advantages over Yang he got buttfucked
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>>205160777
get off the internet poplan
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>>205160613
they're also the three admirals explicitly stated to be good at hand to hand/close quarters combat.
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>>205158250
>>205160201
>>205160613
>>205160965
That's just relevant-character-plot-shield like you'd see in a dumb shonen. Only goons will die like retards but named characters are cockroaches.
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>>205160777
Reinhard never once lost the strategic advantage against Yang and only lost battles to him because he kept sending admirals that tried to be big brained and ultimately got rused instead of just fighting a battle of attrition with Yang.
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OK OK WE'LL FILL AN IMPERIAL SHIP WITH IMPERIAL SOLDIERS BUT THEY'RE LIKE NOT IMPERIAL ANYMORE
IT'LL BE CALLED A SHIP, A SHIP OF TROY
BECUASE NOBODY EVER DID THIS, EVER
>chugs half bottle of "tea"
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>>205161226
>has more troups
>only needs to stall out for time for allies to get back and save his ass
>doesn't have to deal with shitty government
>allies actually get there in time to save his ass
>other allies actually managed to get the government to capitulate
>with ALL OF THAT he STILL needs Yang to spare him

Lmao
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>>205161037
what do you mean, named characters have like 50% casualties
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>>205160979
>Whether you live or not, don't you want to see how a High Admiral of the Lohengramm Dynasty meets his end?
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Reuenthal best admiral, his rebellion arc is the zenith of the series and everyone who says it was stupid or contrived misses the point entirely. I wish more characters in anime had well executed character flaws like him, or maybe I just want more classical hubris in storytelling.
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>>205154094
>leftist democracy
>FPA
Practically Bush's post 9/11 America.
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I mean the FPA is certainly leftist by the Galaxy's standards, but I wouldn't compare them to real life leftist democracies like Canada Venezuela or Cuba
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>>205154094
>>205163221
Ironically all the issues identified with the FPA's democracy are issues related to authoritarianism not issues inherent within democracy. Shit like the Patriotic Corps, a lack of transparency, an increasingly politicised military and violent populism- among others- are all aspects inherent in authoritarianism. The FPA's government system had stopped functioning properly exactly because its democratic institutions and structures were weak, not because of any flaws in the idea of democracy. Not to say democracy doesn't have flaws, because it does, but the author was very poor in elaborating on them.
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>>205163697
A lot of FPA is mirroring what Japan was in the 30-40's, where the military slowly took over. Yang even makes his big speech about how no matter what the situation, the military must obey the governing body and not make any decisions on it's own, unlike how Japan's different branches just did whatever the fuck they wanted.
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>>205152967
What a tactical genius.
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>>205158023
My dayjob is elementary school teacher, so it works for me
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>>205154094
one of the points of the show, that i took anyway, was to demonstrate the allure of autocracy as a steelman argument against it. it illustrated it in a way that i never internalized before, as there's so many that fear it that they don't dare even say anything positive about it. but the problem when you do that is that denying the points in favor of autocracy is to be inherently dishonest. so (especially lately) when people hear that there are legitimate positives, they feel that they've been lied to, and are therefore easily indoctrinated into that system that will doom them in the long run.

it's why yang is even more of a hero. he's fighting for a government that he knows is kinda shitty, against a leader that he knows is benevolent, because he knows it's the nadir of the former vs. the apex of the latter, and that that configuration is fleeting. he's saving the future from the temptations of the present.
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>>205154094
The show outright tells you what it thinks. Namely: a well run dictatorship is better than the average democracy, but a poorly run dictatorship is the worst system of all. Since you have no choice as to whether you get a good or a bad dictator, it's better to go with democracy to avoid the worst case.
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>>205154094
Greeks figured this shit thousands of years ago. History just repeats itself.
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>>205163697
Still like how the book implied that they became more authoritarian due to immigrants from the empire bringing their ideals to the alliance.
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>>205163697
The institutions of a democratic government will change to reflect what the people place value on. Both sides of the conflict are explicitly showing governments in their death throes. It's fair to assume both had more effective systems of government sustaining them until this point.
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I WANNA FUCK MARENDORF!!!!!

FUCK
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>>205166326
Don't be rude.
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>>205165444
based and checked
golden comment
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>>205163697
really the main threat to liberty are people who love to use their liberties to deprive the liberties of others.
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>>205154170
fantastic
do you have other characters?

>>205165444
dangerously based
also checked
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>>205165444
But what was Reinhard's economic policy?
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>>205168809
From the look of it here just reduced corruption and incompetence in the empire made things better, but he probably got jewed hard by phezzan just like the FPA
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>>205166326
>That amazing episode when Reinhardt had to ask for her father's blessing
Funniest exchange in the series, bar none.
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>>205153809
>>205154044
He weaponizes basic statistics to take advantage of the empire's honor.
>Empire guy stationed at Thor's Hammer gets a message from Reinhard
>Message 1: ATTACK THE FPA AT ONCE
>Message 2: Hey lads ignore the first message, it's not your Kaiser Reinhard it's just that handsome devil Yang Wen Li up to his old tricks:^), for proof go and check what your soldiers are doing some of them are probably corrupt
>Message 3: REEE WHY HAVEN'T YOU ATTACKED YET
>Absolute Genius of a Commander: Gee some of my soldiers WERE corrupt, I guess that makes the second message true and the first and third message false, I'm staying put out-fucking skilled Yang.

It IS stupid, but it also makes sense given the psychology of the Empire. They're idealists so the very notion that even a slight percentage of a bunch of rank and file would do uncouth things validates the second messages. Any officer who buys what Reinhard is selling will fall for Yang's trick, because you have to be an honorable dude to become an officer in Reinhard's empire in the first place.
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>>205153763
underrated show
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>>205169377
is mariendorf's father the true genius in this story? he's a fucking god of dynastic politics, he managed to groom his 5/10 daughter of a lowly noble family into the royal queen of the entire galaxy
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>>205169972
I think he was happy that his tomboy daughter wasn't a lesbian and was finally getting married.
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>>205166095
Iirc the alliance was pretty good until imperials without democratic ideals flooded in.
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>>205168809
He divided up large noble properties and liberalized some sectors of the economy while creating a welfare system
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Damn that Oberstein!
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>>205170281
Maybe the alliance should have pretended to be aliens so the empire wouldn't feel that their will had been subverted.
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>>205170412
This big brain think is too big for me to handle.
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>>205170430
1:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKCXHoZDYPk
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Instead of Reinhard changing to become kinder after Kircheis died I think it would've been more interesting if Reinhard died and Kircheis was forced to take charge and become crueler.
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>>205152967
what a jobber
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>>205171399
Kircheis didn't care about conquering the galaxy, he just wanted to help Reinhard. If he had assumed the throne he probably would have called for a ceasefire with the FPA and focused on internal reforms.
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I wish he was here.
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>yang is dead and i am the last hope of the FPA. Capture or kill me and you have surely won. Yould die knowing the entirety of humanity has united under one rule.
>That sounds alright but how about we sign a peace treaty instead. Millions of people have died in this war so i could realize my dream, now that victory is within my grasp lets call it quits.
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>>205154094
>>leftist democracy is shown to be degenerate and inefficient
>>rightist absolute monarchy with a wise dictator is shown to be highly superior once the nobility is put on a leash
Reinhard literally tells Marinedorf to set up a constitutional monarchy in the case his son isn't as great as him. At the end democracy won. Also the FPA is closer to current USA than a "leftist" democracy.
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>>205172443
>If he had assumed the throne he probably would have called for a ceasefire with the FPA and focused on boning annerose
Fify
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>>205163697
As a spic that sounds like a typical leftist "democracy".
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>>205172893
>the FPA is closer to current USA than a "leftist" democracy.
This. It's fucking incredible that this was written before Iraq, Afghanistan, The Gulf War, Panama, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnFh-FLjSrY
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>>205154094
>Right wing populist party bankrupts FPA and loses war
>yeee that means libtard owned

are you mentally ill by any chance?
LOGH isnt super leftist but you must be deranged to come to your conclusions

FPA kicked Empires ass with about 5% of their population and held their own back then,
while Reinhard just mercy killed a failed state
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>>205158250
>That's one of the more disappointing scenes in the anime. No way some snooty asshole who probably doesn't even train anymore could fend off an elite soldier like that.
The absolute state of speedwatchers.
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>>205165444
Dude Yang is a fucking idiot.
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>>205174973
>implying
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>>205174832
It's not like the average loser would reproduce, so what did he do?
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>>205153070
>>205152967
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Would you have liked LOGH better if it was more scifi oriented with far future imagery and worldbuilding instead of its anachronisms or would that have detracted from the main themes too much?
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>>205173891
That's quite possibly the worst scene in the entire show. What actual politicians do is throw up a banner saying "Mission Accomplished" and take all the credit for winning the war. The idea that the economy is in shambles and you'd draw it out would get more votes is really fucking stupid.
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>>205175325
Are you familiar with the Vietnam War?
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>>205153868
It's how Rome beat Carthage. It's a perfectly viable tactic.
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>>205165479
You conveniently leave out that the best ran dictatorship is better than the best ran democracy, that the best system of all is a high functioning benevolent dictatorship.
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Once Yang jobbed to sleeping pills, the story got 10x more interesting, and the final season was the best yet.
Is this a coincidence, or was Yang truly the anchor of the series' quality?
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>>205158250
Reuenthal rose through the ranks through pure merit, he wasn't gifted a cushy officer's positions like Schenkopf was for being a traitor. He definitely trained too, that's a constant motif that Reinhard's new generation of leadership were concerned with precisely that kind of diligence.
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>>205175325
I'll explain it to you as simply as I can.

The pro-war coalition was the majority in the government because the FPA was in a weak position to negotiate peace.
The pro-peace coalition was the minority in the government because the FPA was in a weak position to negotiate peace.
Voters changed their minds because: Iserlohn was a victory for the FPA's defense, not offense
The pro-war coalition was predicted to lose the next election because a defensive victory put the FPA in a strong position to negotiate peace.
The pro-peace coalition was predicted to win the next election because a defensive victory put the FPA in a strong position to negotiate peace.
Politicians voted for the invasion because: They wanted an offensive victory, not a defensive victory.
The pro-war coalition was theorized to gain more votes from an offensive victory that would also prolong the war.
The pro-peace coalition was theorized to lose more votes from an offensive victory that would also prolong the war.
The actions make sense in the context of corrupt politicians working to protect themselves instead of protecting their nation.
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>>205172617
What happen to this show?
they got to the part where kircheis dies?
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>>205174832
>introduce a social-darwinism law
>ends up backfiring and rudolf is left with no heirs
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>>205175171
It definitely wouldn't have detracted from the themes
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>>205175421
WELL DUH, IF THE DICTATOR IN CHARGE KNOWS HOW TO RUN AN EMPIRE, THEY WILL DEFINITELY RUN IT BETTER THAN A GROUP OF ELECTED OFFICIALS. BUT SHOW STATES THAT RARELY DOES HISTORY PROVIDE GOVERNMENTS WITH COMPETENT LEADERS WHO AREN'T DEVOTED TO THERE OWN HEDONISTIC DESIRES OVER THE WELFARE OF THEIR CITIZENS WITH NO OVERSIGHT WHATSOEVER.
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>>205175171
It wouldn't have detracted from the themes, but i like the anachronisms
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>>205175467
It's just that reuenthal got more focus and stories about hubris are literally always the best shit
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>>205175171
No, although I would have had the entire prior history condensed to have taken place over the course of about 300 years instead of 1500. I totally understand why Tanaka wanted to be conservative with his estimates, but considering the launch of the ISS could be witnessed by WWI veterans, extremely rapid technological advancement isn't entirely outlandish.
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I understand enough of the philosophy of the show. That stuff is great.
What I have trouble wrapping my mind around is the Iserlohn Corridor.
Why do ships go boom if they hit the edge?
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>>205177322
Dark matter and dark energy.
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>>205166515
IS THAT A
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>>205154094
yeah, except rolling the right kind of dictator is like getting hit by a lightning twice on a leap year. both wings are shit.
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>>205169972
>5/10
Hildegard is canonically pretty attractive, the various other characters comment on it sometimes. I also think they were high nobles, though that doesn't matter in the new regime.
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>>205175171
I don't think it would have detracted from its themes, but it also wouldn't have added much. The sci fi aspect was never what the story was really about.
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>>205175372
There's no analog to Vietnam at all? The situation doesn't map on at any point.The closest you could get is maybe Nixon... who was big on pushing the fight back to the ARVN forces and getting American ground troops out? If you analogize Iserlohn to withstanding Tet then LoGH's point falls even further to the wayside.

>>205175672
There is not a "pro-war"" coalition to oppose the "pro-peace" side; the entire scene is saying that they're only into the war to stay elected. Their constant arguments are that the war is good because it is a defensive war; winning Iserlohn and bringing the boys back home lets them parade around as the saviors of the FPA and completely undercut the Peace side of the table.

It's basically established that keeping up the war also tanks the economy which is bad for their continued ability to stay in power. None of this actually functions of a critique of power or politics. It's like the later scene where the jumped up Lt is giving his battle plan and being an insubordinate little shit that would get thrown in the brig of an actual military, an attempt at a critique by someone who had never engaged with the issue at hand.
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>>205168809
He allegedly saved a lot of cash by taxing the high nobility, although they being like the 1% of the population. It doesn't make much sense.>>205169226
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>>205175421
Dude, how can you miss the point this badly? How long can such a proper autocratic rule run at best, 40 years maybe? What happened after the succession then?
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>>205178917
Whatever it is it will be a long time before it reaches the depths of dysfunction seen everyday in the FPA if it reaches such at all. Reinhard laid a strong foundation.
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>>205165479
This. We already have so many real life examples with the various incarnations of Roman Empires where at most, we have 1 or 2 good emperors but the rest are shitters who don't know what the fuck they are doing.
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>>205175467
no shit, anon. just about all of yangs battles are asspulls or reinhards admirals jobbing. even when hes at a heavy strategic disadvantage you can tell he'll win the battle without watching it, theres no suspense
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>>205165444
>easily indoctrinated into that system that will doom them in the long run.it's why yang is even more of a hero. he's fighting for a government that he knows is kinda shitty, against a leader that he knows is benevolent, because he knows it's the nadir of the former vs. the apex of the latter, and that that configuration is fleeting. he's saving the future from the temptations of the present.

BS.
Looks like democracy is dooming humanity in the long run.
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>>205165479
>Since you have no choice as to whether you get a good or a bad dictator, it's better to go with democracy to avoid the worst case.

Eternal stagnation is not a good choice. Democracy can never rise above putrid mediocracy at best, and it only gets progressively worse the longer it goes on.
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>>205175421
Good dictatorships don't last long, and the ones that last for any time at all are generally elective dictatorships where the next ruler is chosen (like the Roman Empire), not hereditary ones. Heredity ones usually turn to shit in a couple of generations, tops.

And the Empire is hereditary.
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>>205163697
Everything you have mentionned save for the patriotic corps are things found in literally every western "democracies".
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>>205178917
This mentality is precisely what separates the FPA from the Empire. This desire for security at the expense of everything else, such a people deserve neither safety nor freedom. The argument for democracy here is a cringing thing, it's totally without human dignity and deserves no acknowledgement. Only cowards gladly dilute responsibility in some scheme of mutual mediocrity. This is why you will never taste the glory of Kaiser Burger in the halls of Valhalla.
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>>205163697
The idea of democracy is inherently flawed because it requires everyone to have a profound knowledge of politics in order to make the right choices as opposed to autocracies where only a handful are required to have that knowledge while the rest of the population can specialize in other fields to ensure maximum efficiency.
I also would like to add that voting for people to lead your country doesn't make you a democracy, you are only electing your tyrants. Especially when the system doesn't allow the population to take political decisions or contest the decisions of the government.
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>>205180288
I'll have a Double-Kiser with extra onions, a side of fritz, and a Coke please.
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>>205180288
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>>205178917
You do realize that the same issue also apply to democracies right?
Just look at the state of the FPA. Democracies are also prone to corruption since people aren't knowledgeable enough about laws and politics to see when a government is trying to screw them over for its own interest.
The show never takes a side between autocracies and democracies, it only offers you 2 point of views and explores them.
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>>205180127
>And the Empire is hereditary.
It isn't really.
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>>205165444
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>>205165444
basado y rojopilled
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>>205154094
In a democracy, the power goes to the people who have the most money to influence the people.
In a monarchy, the power is consolidated into a single person who may or may not be influenced by money.

One will inevitably 100% become a corrupt inefficient shithole.
One will roll 10d4 and if 6 of them are 3 or 4 it will be good but if 6 of them are 1 or 2 it will be bad.

is the later perfect? no. but I'd take a chance over a guarantee any day.
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>>205180288
Dangerously based.
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>>205165444
No, what he's doing is sacrificing millions of lives in order to fight for a meaningless abstraction against a demonstrably excellent system.
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>>205178917
>>205180288

To be fair to his point, succession is where every single one of the imperial, chieftain, or royal systems all around the planet always shat the bed.

As soon as succession times comes things go to shit, even if the ruler was enlightened.

So far, Democracy did a pretty good job aleviating that even if it's still shit though.
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>>205178917
Most civilisations had autocratic systems for the vast majority of their history.
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>>205180049
Explain how the US is a superpower then?
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This has some science behind it, probably...
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>>205182070
A circle has infinite angles and infinite sides and thus infinite possibilities.
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>>205182019
Simple 3 great empires crashed against eachother in ww2 (UK,3rd Reich,USSR).The Uk lost its colonial empire,Germany and Russia had the war fought on their lands and were devastated,i mean the US barely lost anything in the war and its geografical positon with all the resources and fucking Canada to the north and Mexico to the south was ideal.
I Europe the dominant power became the USSR, a easter european commie shithole that was devastaed by war.Personally i am amazed they kept at it untill 89.
Anyway just look at the modern US,a world superpower with no competition(dont meme me wit muh CHina) and its crashing down on its own due to corruption,wealth disparity,an economic capitalist elite that is getting richer and massive corporations with their own interests.Not to talk about the racial divide,if police goes harder on a nigg the country implodes.
The US was given practically a gift from god and they squandered it,in 50 years the US will be either balkanized ot a bigger brazil.
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>>205153936
>I came her to semi-encircle you
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>>205182228
You are de-emphasizing the entire Cold War.

Convenient.
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>>205182019
>>205182228
That and our sheer amount of valuable land under one flag while the other valuable land, Europe, was war torn and split between dozens of countries.
The US is geographically the best country in the world and it carries America pretty far.
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>>205182019
>enormous country full of natural resources
>neighbouring countries that don't pose the slightest military threat
>left practically untouched by the world wars that devastated the other largest economies
You don't need an amazing political system to make this work.
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>>205172617
I watched liked 12 episode of this show ages ago? Have they finished it yet? Is it still inferior to the original?
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>>205156994
>being so brainwashed that you take anything with the words "left" and "right" in them as an attack on your beliefs
Yikes
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>>205182019
don't get brainwashed by propaganda.
america is not a democracy.
it has military occupation over half of the world. and that's not by choice.
any country who dares not admitting USD as international currency gets toppled or blockaded
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>>205182363
Well,yeah it was mostly irrelevant,Russia could never hope to compete with the US for a long period of time.They've kept their people in poverty and still lost the space race,and nowadays Russia is a third world shithole with a GDP the size of Spain,lmao.
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>>205174914
Pray tell how some general who in all likelihood doesn't or barely keeps up his physical training can ward off the most elite of soldiers who is wielding a goddamn axe with a knife? Try not being a smug asshole while you explain.
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>>205181551
Opposite.

There is ZERO chance that the majority of politicians will be good.
Tehre is a chacne that an autocrat could be good.

But the idea that the autocraft has absolute power is flawed. That power is /was never absolute.

>>205182019
Luck, size, no regional competition.
And being a superpower means little, since it's carried over from previous, better generations.

If you honestly believe the majority of the US congress/senate/politicians are doing a good job and are not corrupted assholes, you are delluded.
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I really had a hard time comprehending the scope of the battles. I was only reminded of it when afterwards the death toll was mentioned, or the rare instance where a commander says something like
>Fire when the enemy is withing 6 million KM range.
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>>205183046
>>There is ZERO chance that the majority of politicians will be good.
>Tehre is a chacne that an autocrat could be good.
That's what I said.
I can see how it was a bit unclear. because I erased a part of it.
the 10d4 is basically rolling different aspects of the monarch that is 1-terrible,2-bad,3-good,4-great. enough goods/greats can overshadow the terrible/bads.

Their power is absolute enough to get rid of anyone who could stand in their way unless they had significant public backing. This kind of public backing usually occurred during reign changes or if they committed a massive blunder in war or politics.
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I hope the new show gets a S3, it's not as good as the original but I enjoy new material.
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How should an autocracy move forward when it's abundantly clear the next generation won't hold the same standard of efficient and competent rule?
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>>205182070
is there a reason why the Empire's formation were like that? maybe some ritualized thing like Alexander?
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>>205182922
Yeah, it's convenient to ignore reality and just stick to your fabricated scenario.

If you are calling everything that led the USSR to Space Race, the multiple moments when the USSR was beating the US (mostly in Influence though) as irrelevant, sure then in that case everything the US did then to win the Cold War can be called irrelevant. The ENTIRE history of the men and women who dedicated their lives to make the US what it is right now can be ignored that way.

Neat.
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>>205183046
>>205183435

You are both ignoring the law of averages and the phenomenon of single point of failure. A system with a single point of failure is terrible and dumb, and you will have a hard time convincing anyone with a modicum of actual experience, and competency, in anything really otherwise. That and when you have multiple elements being measured, they tend to approach of an average while staying away from specific limits. Sure you will have a myriad of imperfect politicians, but in average you can expect them to be... average. That and balance of power, if the system is well-made enough, the imperfect elements can check each others according to an idealized state, that they themselves don't have to attain ironically.
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Your excellence, please wrap up this Iserlohn matter already so I can go home to play with my doggo.
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Why are battles in this show fought on a flat plane?
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>>205182684
I think you are confused about what constitutes a system of government and foreign policy.
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>>205187867
Not all of them are. The main reason some battles are is because it’s just easier to visualize.
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I'M GOING TO ATTACK HIM
HEAD-ON
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>205185134
Lmao, why so butthurt mutt?
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>>205169468
Hardly. Not well known by zoomers? Sure.
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>>205154094
Yeah but the thing is that that monarchy/dictatorship is highly dependent on the virtues of one man. The purpose of democracy is to counteract the known flaws of humanity. But democracy is naturally also flawed. The best is probably a constitutional monarchy desu. An elected government with an educated monarch who can protect the nation from the whims of democratic demagogues is the best really.
Though another issue in such a state would be the military, just look at how Japan was taken over by the imperialist hardliners who kept the monarchy as a banner to rally the people around. You need a strong-willed monarch then too, not a weak-willed pussy like Hirohito. Though a government that has united humanity would hardly need a huge army since it would lack any external threats. A planetary defense force would probably work best with a small contingent of professional troops in the capital or something.

TL;DR: people are flawed, no perfect system for government exists.
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>>205177322
Black holes, asteroid fields, unstable gravitational fields, etc. The story didn't explain what kind of FTL technology they have, but it's probably not the extra-dimensional kind. If so, it would make sense that their FTL drive is limited to routes with less interference.
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>>205185053
Same.
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>>205185053
They could make the novels still to be adapted then.
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>>205177322
It's only an excuse.
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>>205187942
>it is okay to invade/occupy other countries even though majority of citizens oppose this idea because i was the elected non choice candidate.
>i simply don't tell what i am doing to the people who elected me
yeah okay bud,
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>>205192878
>i simply don't tell what i am doing to the people who elected me
Democracy in a nutshell.
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>>205153936
never got the semi circle meme
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>>205152967
still the best tactician in anime
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>>205177322
They hit the space ceiling
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>>205178201
He didnt just tax them, he expropriated their assets
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>>205182928
Simple, he does keep up with his training, and was likely a better soldier to begin with, see >>205175599. Also he's an admiral not a general, and it was a big knife.
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>>205194437
Still a ridiculous amount of money for the Empire.
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>>205154044
The military strategy in logh is laughable honestly.
>reinhartosama-sama, the enemy has split their overwhelming force into 3 sections, each one weaker than our forces! Whatever shall we do
>attack each one separately! I am a genius! Allow my personal hypeman to explain to you how much of a genius I am!
>WHAT he attacked each force separately? what shall we do yangsama-san, save us!
>I dunno uhhhh do the exact opposite of splitting up the fleet
>DAMN THAT MAGICIAN YANG WENG LI HE IS TOO SLIPPERY RETREAT
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>>205195278
Do you know any sci-fi work with non-laughable space strategy? Serious question.
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>>205195278
>>I dunno uhhhh do the exact opposite of splitting up the fleet
Im not saying the strategy was good, but yang literally did split his fleet during that battle
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>>205195278
That's defeat in detail though, people like Napoleon utilized the concept all the time to fuck the austrians and the italians. Hell even Stonewall Jackson used defeat in detail during his shenandoah valley campaign in the US Civil War
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Does a 1080p version of the original series exist?
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>>205196383
I think he means Yang's suggestion of merging the two surviving fleets instead of trying to save the other one and thus losing another fleet.
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Can someone explain what the difference between the tactical, operational, and strategic levels are?
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>>205154013
Tactically speaking, Bittenfeld is purposefully justified in this decision, considering traps require the element of surprise and such to act as force multipliers, which aren't nearly as effective if you overwhelm them
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>>205196387
>Stonewall Jackson
Didn't know that guy. Sounds interesting.
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>>205196480
Explained by Yang himself.
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>>205196833
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCgi9BNjj6c
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>>205182019
Geographically, its one of the few nations that could theoretically go into a closed economy and not get completely fucked, because it contains the most resource rich areas of an entire continent, plus it has two oceans seperating, making overseas invasion a logistical nightmare
And then also because the military is effectively a massive club to beat other countries into economic servitude, and its navy is for-all-intents-and-purposes the world trade police
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>>205196326
Nah, they're all bad, and the further we go the worse they get.
The only good space battles are small scale ship v ship stuff. There is literally no movie to ever have sensible, well done fleet combat with interesting tactics involved.
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>>205165444
infinitely based, I thought posts like this aren't allowed on /a/ anymore
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>>205185053
same, but it's not very likely. I'm pretty sure yang scored in the top ten of a "male anime character of the year" a little while ago, so that might indicate some interest in it but I wouldn't hold my breath for it.
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>>205185586
You fail to realize that politics is not a closed system in any way, nor that politicians are logical machines.
In the decision making process, a democratic political machine-man doesnt just weigh a binary 'good/bad' decision based upon a binary 'competent/incompetent', but instead has its values modified by outside sources that often times hold more sway over the decision than whether a choice is the most competent or not. So instead of one decision maker choosing based upon their own competency, you have a hundred basing it off of the incentives each decision has for them, and THEN weighing it off of their own competency as to whether or not those incentives hinder their ability to continue being a decision maker.
I fail to see how this is better then a SPOF, considering that is based on competency, where as the other option is not even based upon their own competency but instead on outside incentives



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