/omg/ Occult & Magick General The Occult library is here: https://the-eye.eu/public/Books/Temple_Of_Solomon_The_King/Here is some other good resources:- A good Hebrew gematria database http://www.billheidrick.com/works/hgm1.htm- A list of lore on fix stars http://www.constellationsofwords.com/Fixedstars.htmIf people there is other topics people want good links to just ask.If you are new to magick here is some good beginner books - Liber Null & Liber Kaos by Peter J Carrol - Visual Magick by Jan Fries - Magick without tears and Book 4 by Aleister Crowley- The Compete Golden Dawn by Israel RegardieFor Kabbalah- Inner Space, Meditation & Kabbalah, Meditation & the Bible, The Sefer yetzirah, all by Aryeh Kaplan ( I would read them in the order posted)- Gates of Light: Sha'are Orah by Rabbi Joseph Gikatilla (if you can find a copy)-The The Chicken Qabalah by Lon Milo DuQuette ( is a good intro to hermetic Qabalah ) For Grimoires - Arbatel of Magick and Heptameron are both great This list is by no means complete but should be good enough info to get started. So how is everyone's practice going? Any cool results or failures? What do your daily practices look like? What would you recommend beginners practice?
>>22349430What happened to the mega library?
Thelema is backwards old world order bs. Created by some over the hill fart. Thelema is truly the religion of GRANDFATHERS for old people lol.Crowley was a retard that died in his own pool of shit. Because he Od'd on cheap backstreet hillbilly heroin.
>>22349452Ape went nuclear and deleted it but there is a re-upload I linked in the description. I would download all the books you think you might need before it gets deleted again.
>>22349497HEY! Everybody look I just posted some Zoomorphism shits so cool yo! lol idiothttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoomorphism
Well your Christian thread is almost at 300 in a few hours! Meanwhile this samefagging threadfest will take what? DAYS! lol idiots
>>22349430Is there an occult link to mirrored numbers? I was born at 10:01, and things have been getting very strange for me lately
>>22349458Hillbilly heroin is oxycodone.
>>22349546What was that Ivan?
>>22349430https://archive.org/details/LeftHandPath666Here is some good resources for LHP magician mainly the temple of set content.https://archive.org/details/crowleyworks2Here is a good collection of Thelema works. A lot of occult content for most traditions can be found on archive.org and better copies then what was in the mega.
>>22349682herp derp a smörgåsbord of kooky spiritual bs! just pick and choose! also HAIL SATAN!
>>22349458Is this a new pasta of a dead meme based on falsehoods? It's stale already.
https://ctext.org/zhuangzi/seal-of-virtue-completehere is a library of Taoism texts
>>22349894>https://ctext.org/zhuangzi/seal-of-virtue-completehey this is pretty cool, nice find
>>22349909Np :D, I have tons of resources! Like here is a library of Jacob Boehme texts in English. http://www.jacobboehmeonline.com/He was very important to alchemy and his ideas from the basis of Rosicrucianism and a lot of freemasonry
>>22349526These threads used to be very active.Then the spam flamers started going 24/7.
>>22349702You sound like a bitch. Hail Satan.
>>22350072>when you release an iffy fart and realize you may have pooped on the Throne
>>22349951>https://ctext.orgNice, haven't seen this in a while.>http://www.jacobboehmeonline.com/Siiiiiiiiiiick.
>>22350137Oh would you look at that, it's take your fucking pills o'clock
>>22350137can you stop being a retard ill literally paypal you money if you never come back to this thread
>>22350163dude if you send this teenaged /pol/tard money he's probably going to buy a backpack or a notebook covered in memes so that he can show off to this classmates at school tomorrow.
>>22350214Maybe I'll make a trust so that he can only spend the money on therapy.
>>22350375my least favorite person on Twitter has this as their profile pic so while It's a great image I am conflicted
>>22350387In all fairness, Hereditary was a really good movie.
Which occult texts do I read if I want to learn:1. The "theory" behind magick.2. The nature of the world as illusionary.???
What's the best and easiest way to curse someone?
>>22350540To be honest Chaos Magick and Spare are good ways to start magick, since its so practice based. Then the rest of the reading becomes more icing on the cake. At least this is how I go about this problem.
>>22350699Dont you have a pastor or a priest to blow?
Any good entry-level books on shamanism?
>>22350540>to truly be one of usThanks for the incentive to burn all my magic(k) books.
>>22350998Practical or more general/theoretical?
>>22350998Short answer: No. Long answer: Shamanism is an umbrella term for a bunch of primitive religions a round the world. These traditions are pretty unaccessible. Like if you wanted to learn Tibetan Bon or Native religion; I suggest to learn it from a native or Tibetan. Now we do have reconstructed pagan systems in the west that are very nature based, like Celtic, Norse or Greek paganism. There is tons of research on psychedelics and spiritual or magical usage in the west too, so that is also an option. Both paganism and researching psychedelics are a more accessible option but psychedelics are illegal in a lot of countries so don't be dumb or illegal.
>>22351136>Shamanism is an umbrella term for a bunch of primitive religions a round the world.That's an oversimplification. It's a term for traditions that exist in those religions. There are religions with both shamanic and priestly traditions.
>>22351136The library is full of ethnography.
>>22351136The rituals on itself are impossible to understand if you aren't there, but the world conception it's accessible.You do need some hardcore studying tough.
>>22351264I was reading serious science shit as a teenager I started reading thelema stuff when I could wipe my own ass (intellectually).
>>22349430i think my cover is blown. some one tried to steal from me and i trapped them. i may have converted all neosporin made in a particular month into a cure all the likes of which nobody had ever seen. i have a bit of it left from years ago. i kind of did a really good thing like it covers all good deeds for a year (1 only 1) for a million life times. aids was cured FFS in some house holds. im not one to go overboard like that normally but i did it. im not apologizing. but anyways i put some on me just to make sure the culprit didnt flee. they tried. i could feel them but i was about to go to bed. direct contact will generate a unpleasant feeling directly connected to their negative attributes intensity. holy water would feel like a cool breeze to a shade and hell fire would feel like ice water to a demon compared to this stuff. you try to steal from me your bad and probably fairly evil. sure enough they couldnt get free while i slept. but i was surrounded and could tell they were closing in as i passed outthey noticed it. they had done tests before. said i wasnt possessed. those idiots told the demons. i was deep undercover and those fucking retarded christians went and got a demon hunter (failed) and a specialist spook to come investigate.they even let what i assume were slaves try some vodo (failed) they cant tell when something truly dark is right next to them. they have been conspiring with pure evil and are to dumb to notice. they dont even understand why the ones punished are punished. they are blindnow i have noticed the dark entities are circling about. they try to lure me out into the world. they dont understand what i have done they assume me to be some low level guy . they cant figure out why the bounty is that high. im not worried. i have fought them off many times. some arent even looking for a fight. they just kind of follow the pack. but i know a couple of ones looking for a fight are here. how do i know. they were banished already
>>22350486Magick in Theory and Practice.Meditation.
>>22351579This, this and this again.
Hey folks. Been away a long while, how are the threads nowadays? What'd I miss?
>>22351919I wanna see you behave and further your threads. You could of went a different route.We could of have diverse discussions about 2=0, the gematria of 93 in depth. Could of shown you ultra rare Thelemic manuals. And rare Thelemite art. But you went that boring route. Oh wells :( so be it.
>>22351919Which Thelema borrows heavily from. Gnostic Mass has parts that sound familiar to anybody who has attended Catholic Mass. To be fair Thelema borrows from a lot of religions/philosophies. The Syncretism is off the chart. To be fair Catholicism does the same thing.
>>22353093Yeah reading books sounds complicated. Why do that when you can shitpost about things being "reddit" for months on end like some sort of downie.
>>22352057Catholicism's syncretism is primarily cultural, and the virtually everything else is philosophical.
>>22350486>2Parmenides' fragmentary poem "On Nature"
>>22351717I didn't realize Set was so twinky.
>>22351136I yiked 5 times while reading that, jesus christ.
Does humor or clowns have a purpose on the occult?
Can I be into the occult while being a Christian or does it make me some sort of heretic
Thelema is a cult. By grooming you to read 1 billion miles of PDF’s!
>>22354255That depends on what you do, and it depends on how much credence you give to verses such as Deut 18:9-11.>When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead.On the other hand, there are some things that are "occult" that wouldn't fall in that list. The contemplative meditation and prayer of christian monastics counts as occult to me. The powers wielded by many saints and Jesus himself are occult, yet those people are called saints and not heretics. If you were to multiply fish and bread using an occult power, would you be a heretic or would you be like Jesus?Even stuff like the goetia, where you summon demons and spirits, seems like a gray area. If you look at the source material and the lives of the people who engaged in those practices, they were devout Christians using the names of God and his angels to protect themselves and summon demons in order to bind them and use them, often for good. To me that sounds less evil and heretical than, say, summoning demons and being in league with them, and using them or getting used by them to spread evil.I personally think there's a lot nuance.
>>22349469Any idea why Ape flipped?
>>22354282>ban evaders are a cult by grooming you to cycle one billion VPNs!
>>22354296Sounds like a conspiracy theory. Are you mentally ill?
>>22354303You said so yourself last night, incel.
>>22354295Check the archives. Satyr has been sinking the thread, told Ape to multiple time to remove the library and/or stop wasting his time here.
>>22354313Yep your mentally ill. Because that not me idiot!
>>22351091I... I... was taking shower and I saw that drum. I kinda do meditation in shower like lame waterfall style. I don't know what to say. I... damit! Must read! I don't know how or what to... (incoherent mumbling)Thanks Universe I guess. (Walks away aimlessly)
>>22351136>best answerFinland has it's own. Also it's registered as official in govmnt. system.
>>22354255Occult implies hidden or secret knowledge, and from my understanding does conflict with Christianity. Their is, however, a very rich and historied tradition of Christian Mysticism. Check out East Orthodox mysticism.
>>22354330Please speak to a psychiatrist.
>>22354255Well the new testament has a lot of Hermeticism and Platonism mixed in. Like the idea of Jesus being the Word/Logos is very Platonic/Hermetic. The name IESUS via isopsephia numerates to 888 which is the trice perfected sun again mongoloids will say 8 is Hod/mercury which isn't wrong but in this context is more pointed to the nondualism of the sun and mercury. Also if you take 8 and do this to it 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8; you get 36. 36 is the value of each row on the solar square added it, whether you go diagonal, vertical or horizontal. So as we can see the sun and mercury are linked. Again the 888 thing also shows how Jesus and Hermes Trismegistus are one but I could be here all day explaining that one. Numerical biblical interpretation is actually a semi-normal Jewish practice and the new testament still have hidden meanings to it via kabbalah and gematria. I would like to add the most magick in the west all the way up to the golden dawn was a christian practice but an esoteric secret one. Like the most popular grimoire is goetia which is a christian grimoire about binding demons to do ones bidding BUT there is a deeper level that a lot of plebians dont know about it. It purpose of the grimoire is actually self purification. What you are suppose to do is find a demon that represents a internal problem you have like Hate or Greed, etc. Then summon the demon and bind it to christ and purify it. Doing this should purify your own internal negative quality but most people dont really know this aspect. A lot of Grimoires are aimed at interacting with angels like the Arbatel of Magick and Heptameron.
>>22354151Yes. Sometimes the most powerful and empowering spell you do is actually a prank. While you put your sweat and blood to make it happen with all your might these others are observing and laughing at you from bottom of their heart. It was prank all along and you supposed to learn something. Sometimes you need to pull a hardcore prank on someone to make your point or get rid of something. Works wonders if you have what it takes. Sometimes you get offered something so unbelievably powerful / cool / necessary but it's a prank. A prank to test you or make a point.
>>22354305Uh.... I suppose you deserve this meme.>>22354319Too bad. I liked the library.
but yeah there is some people here that seem to practice and are cool but for the most part this place is a shit hole so i am out
>>22354327You're so transparent.
>>22354372>Like the idea of Jesus being the Word/Logos is very Platonic/Hermetic.Except that the biblical conception of what Logos is, is completely different.
>>22354357I will. Thanks for caring.>>22354372Interesting! I didn't ever come to think this.
>>22354427Not him, but how would you define the biblical Logos? I generally associate it with Tao. Christ is The Way, after all.
Are there any neopagans on /x/ today? What should I put on an altar to Palutena?
>>22354469>weeb neopaganism focused on a video game characterAngel of death, please take me now!
>>22354443Christ was a bodhisattva
>>22354511Jesus was Plato.
>>22354443It's a bit complicated, and I don't fully understand it. I'd have to do some review to give a more precise answer, but basically the Logos is deeply associated with the power used to create the world, or maybe is that creative power. This is, in a sense, what's depicted through mythic imagry in the concept of Chaoskampf. Human beings, having souls, have a sort of lesser or reduced version of this, like an image reflected in a mirror.In contrast, Logos in Hermeticism is based around rationality/reason, and in the Christian conception, the Logos I a sense takes precedence over the rational mind.>I generally associate it with Tao. Christ is The Way, after all.That's not a connection I've thought of before. I personally wouldn't do more than use them as rough comparisons, but my knowledge of Taoism is fairly limited, and I can definitely see why you'd make that connection. In Christ's nature as man, He is perfect, so in a sense demonstrates a mode of being for us to emulate. Likewise, the concept of original sin, in a sense, says that humanity's suffering is due to a sort of discordance(?) with God, which is bit entirely dissimilar with part of the idea of Tao, from my understanding, though Tao is not usually worshipped as a God.This is something I'm going to have to look into. Thanks for pointing this out to me.
>>22354532>He is perfect, so in a sense demonstrates a mode of being for us to emulate.Like the Taoist Immortals.
>>22354490>you called?Sorry I couldn't resist. Now (that person) is trolling or (that person) is genuinely interested in stuff. If you consider (that person) is trolling act accordingly and pay no interest. Do you have problems with accepting new forms of worship?
>>22354516No he was Socrates
>>22354556>Do you have problems with accepting new forms of worship?I don't think that a singular autist setting up a shrine to a video game character counts as a "new form of worship".
>>22354580>"a video game character"You do know the character Palutena is based on an actual Greek goddess, right?
>>22354555Based on a brief lookup of that, sort of, I think. In the Catholic and (I think) East Orthodox conception, humanity exists in an imperfect state due to original sin. Christ, especially after the Resurrection, demonstrates humanity in its intended, uncorrupted form. The actual good afterlife is that people who are saved will be returned to life in a perfect state and life in the Kingdom of God on Earth (life of the world to come), with going to heaven being a sort of watered down version of the theology. Many eastern religions definitely also have this concept of a sort of fully integrated spiritual and physical perfection (living saints, xian, etc.) but I'm fairly certain Christian theologians would object to the idea that this state could be achieved in this life.
>>22354532>logos in hermeticism is reasonPlatonism maybe. AFAIK the hermetic logos should be similar to the Christian. But I'm with you that logos is closely related to the force of creation. It is spirit, ש. That's our buddy Jesus. FYI there is a difference between soul and spirit.
>>22354563>>22354516you guys are retarded Jesus is Aristotle
>>22354637https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_All"Poimandres had spoken a Word. The Word was Reason" and Reason is given to The Workman, The Master-Builder, and The Maker of Things. Nous and Reason are truly one, according to the Hermeticum, and their Union is Life. The Word is also known as The Logos.What's the difference between spirit and soul in your view?
>>22350072La Vey didn't have any thelemic connections, at least I don't recall reading that he did
>>22354600Then why not go straight to worshipping the actual goddess it's based on?
>>22354659Soul is the qabalistic ruach. The spirit is a point of light chugging power and life into the soul. The soul is like a balloon, filling with spirit. Contained in the soul is our personality, our ego, everything that makes up YOU. The soul will dissipate without spirit fueling it. But spirit is eternal.
anyone here practice the sinister tradition/o9a branch of occultism?
>>22351717what exactly is set supposed to be, the typthian beast, what animal was it actually?
>>22354728What you're describing as spirit is what I consider the soul to be.Also, the rauch is a part of the soul, according to the Kabbalah.
>>22354728>>22354728Furthermore, the ruach or soul is he air or hebrew Vav of our makeup. This is explicitly related to Reason, thought, and thr sword of tarot.
>>22354755It just sounds like what I consider the soul and mind to be, you refer to as spirit and soul, respectively.
>>22354742Yes, there's a few of us.
>>22354772Seems like. I'm just coming from the qabalah as I know it.
>>22354797Why O9A over another adversarial group?
>>22354797Is it angles or angels?
>>22354810Because he needs the top-of-the-line darque cringe, regular cringe just doesn't cut it anymore.
>>22354810The pathei-methos aspect of it appealed to me initially and has proved rewarding. I've been on this path for many years. Most Niners you'll meet online are retarded degenerate fucks. Extremism in all forms attracts human garbage. If you're going to follow this path you need to be a good judge of character.>>22354824It's Angles.
>>22354295someone was being weird/stupid being x basically, satyr said that omg was an excuse for freaks to just be weird, ape agreed and said about not having nice thingsAnywayhttp://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/22273507/#22273507this is the thread where he cancelledit so just read that and draw your own conclusions.Also maybe save the link and just post it next timesomeone asks becasue apedoesexpalin it in the mentioned thread link
>>22354829You're not exactly wrong lol. I'm far enough into it that I can separate the truth from the trash though. Don't believe everything you read about ONA.
>>22354916Why dont you dispel some of the misinformation about the O9A?
>>22354916What have you experienced whilst practicing the septenary system? Anything of note?
I'm so glad Ape's library died alongside his cult of autistic tripfaggots ruining /OMG/ every single time. This is probably the best thing that happened to /x/ in recent years.Thank you Ape, you truly are the savior of this board now that you fucked off with all your faggot attention seeking friends!
>>22354968so am I for you it seems ;)
>>22354968the gutter is rent free
>>22354963Now's your time to shine! Start making this thread better, share some good information. Oh wait, you won't because you can't because you have nothing worth sharing. Retards like you almost never do. You're a hungry ghost.
>>22354872Y'all so white it should be called Order of Nine Anglos
>>22354963>whining about E drama when you're the only one bringing it upWhat's it like to be everything you hate you fucking faggot attention whore?
>>22355022After this autistic crusade I am almost convinced that autism should be criminalized.
>>22354940We're not all Nazis. We don't worship anything, let alone the Biblical Satan. You don't have to kill someone to join. You don't really even "join" ONA. Doing "evil" teaches you things, it's not a way of life. Dogma is bullshit, pathei-mathos is the crux.>>22354948Insight Roles are the most transformative, in my experience. Not going to get into what I've done personally here.
>>22352057I think the Gnostic Mass borrows more from Orthodox Christianity than it does from Catholicism; does it not?
>>22355094I will second this. How are you doing, btw?
>>22355123Been doing okay. Launched a podcast today. We'll see how that goes.
>>22355019haha very cool my melanin enriched brother, very hip indeed
>>22355130Is your podcast on hypnosis, or something else? How's your wife doing?
>>22355068Far as I know, there is virtually no substantive difference between traditional Catholic mass and East Orthodox mass, other than the difference in the Nicean Creed.
>>22355138Bruh.>>22355145Everything and nothing in particular. Side-project to just keep some regularity in my life. Plus, interesting conversations are always well, interesting.
>>22355138Thanks my nice guy
I was having sex with Kali last night.
>>22355380So what's the difference?
>>22354797Drop me your definition of cosmos and our role in it, please.
>>22354797>dat blatant Crowley influence in the styliztion of the lettersTight
>>22355130>Launched a podcast today.Nice, where can we listen to it?
>>22354443>>22354511>>22354516He wants you to eat his body.
>>22355732Like hell I'm posting it here. Come join the Discord.
>>22355796What's your name on Discord or how do I get invited to your group?
>>22354797lmao he reveres a benis
Guys I know life is boring and shit but do we have to larp here?
How is Crowley regarded in current occult proper.
how can I find love, or a soulmate, or whatever, /omg/?
>>22355860Get a job and find some 3/10 woman. Done.
>>22355845Eh, fuck it. discord gg 9kpaAC
>>22355850Well done, I laughed.>>22355538It doesn't matter what I think about it. Go live it hard as fuck yourself, queer.
>>22355967well you want one that loves you, no?Pretty women are shallow, self-centred, materialistic cunts in 99%.
>>22354295He got btfo by a small band of Bardon posters and the rest is history.
Any Chaotes here?Started recently, it's fuckin' crazy.
>>22356402More or less crazy than other occult philosophies?
>>22356402Present and accounted for.
>>22355761Let the Lord come into your heart
>>22355060Have you experienced anything people would consider supernatural in regards to the Nekalah? (Sorry if I'm uninformed). I'm curious because I wasn't sure how the O9A's occultism specifically accounts for those type of experiences
>>22354580>singularShows the lack of observation and ignorance. This "singular" happens everywhere and by multiple people.
>>22356972This.If we accept syncretism as valid then what's the problem with using specific forms of deities from fictional media as objects of focus or worship?
>>22354910Thanks.>>22356977>fictionalNow art is kind of proxy worship for the Gods and Goddesses. So even if it's far fetched as using a plastic figure to represent a deity I think it's fine. We need to put worship in different perspective to gain more understanding whether it's plausible. For someone it's absolutely necessary to go on this hardcore oldschool worship to prove oneself the legitimacy and seriousness. It's totally fine. For someone who has different kind of mentality and perhaps understanding can (yes. Can. Personal experience and observation) yield the same results with lesser work.To me it is about will and intent. If those are clear you can banish a malicious ghost with lighter (candle) and chewing gum wrapping (mirror). If the target of worship is displeased with used idols you probably get the holler sooner or later.
>>22356977If you cant tell the difference then who cares, just keep praying to the anime figurine you have on your altar.
>>22357235No, really, what's the difference between an anime character, any other fictional character, and a character from some shit that was written thousands of years ago?When the Greeks and Romans syncretized their gods, which party was in the wrong?
>>22357243>No, really, what's the difference between an anime character, any other fictional character, and a character from some shit that was written thousands of years ago?The gods were made by cultures in the God making business and intended them for religious and magical purposes. If you actually couldn't tell that I doubt you've ever encountered a God.
>>22357354What qualifies a culture as a 'God making' culture?
>>22357363They made gods that lasted from 5000 BC to present day, obviously. If you actually think there's no difference between Thoth and Haruhi then again, you've never successfully worked with a God.
>>22357370So it is the 'age' of a 'God' that counts the most?
>>22357383Reading comprehension. It's how well they are made. Do you think you can do better than a trained elite of Egyptian priests or the authors of the Rig Veda?
>>22357395So age doesn't matter?
>>22357354Are you denying that further development of deities and Gods are useless or wrong? If I'd be a God or deity I would gladly take opportunity for development and integration in modern present day society. I wouldn't want to be old and moldy fart bitcing how things used to be.
>>22357031Your welcome anon
>>22355172How is the OSAA doing?
>>22358404Slow. I've been active when relevant, but it's mostly inane questions about the tech, which can be very easily figured out with Google.
>>22358549Your tech no good here. Our tech = Godware. Enjoy the ninja storm to come? Also we’re on your friends list in stealth watching you “somewhat”
>>22358592If I was a mod I would ban all E drama faggotry
>>22358592Yeah they think discord = secure! LulzYet discord gave “you” all away via discord dev friends
>>22358592>>22358646Hello TI. Long time no see.
>>22349452Mega isnt a good source to store anything on. they ultimately want money. if they see this much "traffic" leading to their site, then its their choice to take advantage of the opportunity to charge those who store the information or "prune" those they dont benefit anything from to save space.
>>22358592Take your pills.
>>22358922>muh cookies of light
>>22356706Absolutely. Read this: https://omega9alpha.wordpress.com/acausal-theory//
>>22358778Someone shares the library on Soulseek.
Out of all the different branches of occult, why did no one ever try to work with what's currently considered science to prove the world there were things in occult?Is occult just stories and roleplay?I'm actually very drawn to it and I'm not trying to be an ass. Just wondering.
>>22358681Oh hi Nubby, it's been ages.What do you think of British traditional witchcraft (Gemma Gary, Robert Cochrane etc.)?
>>22360086I'm tempted to say 'fuck off with that trash', but I honestly never thought about it, so I can't really do that.
>>22360171>I'm tempted to say 'fuck off with that trash'awww but why :s ?I love tradcraft, it's girly A.F. but it's also edgy and bloody.
>>22360206Mostly because it's 90% aesthetics, and 10% function.What I've seen so far has been very unimpressive, compared to even the most rudimentary Golden Dawn stuff.
>>22360223>it's 90% aestheticsI guarantee that's the main reason she likes it. She's one of those Killstar tumblr neopagans.
>>22360223Aren't you the guy that got BTFO by DBoE?
>>22360229>KillstarI have no idea what that means.>>22360230No. I never found Chumbley appealing. Too much aesthetics, and guy had major trouble conveying his ideas in simple English, which... doesn't really lend him much credibility, in my eyes, at least.
>>22360248It's not for everybody, although I found much of the Golden Dawn had trouble with "simple english"
>>22360304Compared to Chumbley?Hell naw.
>>22360248Or maybe you're just a dumb pollack
>>22360451Nah, I'm a fan of Chumba-Wumba but he's verbose af.
>>22360024It's a vast subject with many sub fields. I'd say the biggest scientific research Into this field is the nature of consciousness. Once we figure out what consciousness is, exactly, we can move forward from there . Then theres parapsychology, which is more ESP and such, less magick.Finally it's really had to test something like magick under controlled conditions, (ie let's say I do a money ritual and come into some unlikely money, how can I say for sure I would or wouldnt have gotten it regardless?) but it's common practice among occultists to keep records of their rituals, and what works, what doesn't work.Finally, few will fund this, and fewer still will risk their career and reputation on something like this, especially that most regard it as bullshit not even worth investigating.
>>22361225Good points. I suppose we could also add that there's so many branches in occult that it would be hard to know where to look.
>>22354639One of the biggest 4chan redpills is that /OMG/ is a recruiting station for trannies to try to take over the site. Very few realize it.
>>22354963They never really fucked off though. They were always janitors and they still are. /OMG/ still has the highest rate of deleted posts of probably any other general on the entire (2) site(s).
Throw me everything you got about werewolves /omg/.When I succeed I'll come back here with a nice ritual for my peeps (y'all).There is already a full moon in a few days so this'll be the perfect time to do it.Here are my plans so far :-Make a sigil about what I want exactly or rather something close (it will be extremely long, like really long, kind of like a program with conditionals but no loops, at least not direct ones)-Summon a demon (don't know which one yet but it'll probably Marbas as he can change men's shape) for a deal/contract/whatever.-kill myselfI'm also doing some semen retention just for the big night. I will also reduce my caloric intake and won't sleep for three days before the special moment.I just hope I won't end up with clinical lycanthropy like a little bitch and no soul.Any suggestions?
>>22362662>any suggestionsNah, you've already got the secret with step three.
>>22362662I don’t go on /omg/ buy just fyi you can truely experience shape shifting through hypnosis. FurMorphed is no longer an active forum but if you find the right hardcore furry they might still have the audio files. Takes some time to train up to the experience, but I had to stop doing it because it was so real.
>>22361909Only the truly demented of freaks is that redpilled.
>>22362916Step three requires balls and guts (neither of which is in my possession) so I probably won't do it.>>22362922>you can truely experience shape shifting through hypnosis. >FurMorphed is no longer an active forum but if you find the right hardcore furry they might still have the audio files. >Takes some time to train up to the experience, but I had to stop doing it because it was so real.Not that I'm interested in this or anything haha but can you give me any kind of clue as to the audio file?Like, I don't really care but if you had like the name or part of the name, or at least the name of the file and not just the title of the audio or like the duration of it, It would be cool I guess, not that I'm too invested in it or anything haha
>>22361915Yes, and the worst part is they act like they dindu nuffin despite everything.
>>22354255Don't do it man. There are only two sides. You're either with God or your with Satan.I was briefly involved with the occult and many told me their involvements in it. Ask me anything.
>>22363416Yes, triple digit IQs are rare on this site. And /OMG/ has been a niche hangout of niche hangouts for so many years that most people on the site have failed to notice the janitor participation concentration in this general. It's fucking off the charts for the site. But now it's spread to the rest of the site and it's important for people to realize where it incubated. I wouldn't be surprised if the reason Ape went underground was to take heat off his janitor ass.>>22363645The guilty always believe they're innocent. It's never not been the case. If we listened to the protestations of the guilty nobody would ever be arrested or tried for anything.
>>22363668Exactly, anon. Choose Satan. God literally wants to kill you and all life.
>>22363668>There are only two sides. You're either with God or your with Satan.By saying that you prove you don't understand your own religion, faggot. There is NO dualism. There is no good and bad. There is good or lack of good. There can be some good. Just like with God.
>>22363764How did you come up with that conclusion?>>22363770I've read the NT a few times. You're either with Jesus or against him. He doesn't leave a middle ground.
>>22363902Who's in control of the cosmos? What does it look like? Death rules all. Life is allowed a small sliver of power and basically only exists at all to be crushed by death.
>>22363912He doesn't want to kill you. He could have ended it all with Adam and Eve the moment they chose their own way. You're letting life speak louder than truth. It's the lie we've been sold under since birth. There is life in Jesus, even in the midst of the reality of death and suffering in this world.
>>22363989>He doesn't want to kill youThen why is all life mortal? I mean it's not like Earth was singled out either. Most of the universe is a giant poisonous vacuum. God's a cunt.
>>22364022https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_abilities_in_Scientology_doctrineOnly works if you’re not gay or some buttfuck ugly tranny who’s a poorfag
>>22364039Jesus Christ, imagine just making a bunch of shit up then becoming rich for it.
>>22364022It's part of the fall Anon. Adam and Eve decided they wanted to know good and evil. They got their desire. We were simply born into it all. He has provided a means out. His name is Jesus. He sent his Son, proving he's good. So why not embrace eternity now? He's waiting for you.
>>22364062Crowley died in a boarding house. With no one. He also made shit up.
>>22364065Oh I see. Because two people decided to eat some fruit, literally every single living thing that has ever come into being has to die. Yeah, that seems fair. God is not a cunt how again?
>>22363754If you seriously believe any of the shit you just typed you should strongly consider killing yourself.
>>22360024Carl Jung literally linked Medieval Alchemical tomes and symbolism to modern understanding of how the mind works and how cultural archetypes propagate. It's what even got me into Occultism. Also, I believe some Greek mathematicians cited Hebrew Numerology in assisting with their thinking.
>>22364123Occultism is just a bunch of nostalgias feens. Poorfags are always trying to live in yesterdays world.
>>22364135Yes, Occultism is only meant to be taken at face value. There is no hidden or obscure meaning to the occult literature. Everybody might as well just pack up and move out of the thread.
>>22361909One of the biggest redpills is that that son of a mangy bitch Satyr orchestrated the whole thing from the start.In July, Satyr started REALLY pushing the agenda that you must walk on glass to have the library.What happened in August?Ape seemed really bummed out by the way things went, but he promised that if the general improved, he'll return.What happened next? Why did it all stopped the moment Ape shut down his library? Who is the only being whose immediately quieted down and left the thread in peace the moment Ape deleted the library?Do you know that Satyr has Ape by the balls thanks to some initiatory document? And that by his claiming to be Magister Templi, he's essentially the top cheese of the OSOAA who Ape and Nubti must obey? Do you know that Ape and Satyr know each other very closely, and that Satyr has all the info and motive to dox Ape for his purpose: to prove that anons here are ungrateful fucks and should have no access to the library? Being the most worthless trip on 4chan, despite the MT, don't you think he got jealous of Ape's popularity and now wants to undermine the thing that attracted the people to Ape the most?Ape is a success story.Satyr is a loser: lost his wife, his home, his marbles (he believes he can see when people get posseses, which often happens when you disagree with him). Was addicted. A NEET (the only NEET in the Black Lodge, who refused to work because he LARPed as a professional Reneissance magician). Almost burned the house down because of "angels" (alt net chats point to drugs). He's above fiftty, and he's here, on 4chan. Try to get it: an lder. On 4chan. He's the oldest person here. And he wasted 4 months not allowing people to communicate, playing both sides, setting users against Ape and Ape against the users. And he goes into arguments with obvious teenagers who shouldn't be here, let alone do magick.He's a vengeful asshole who wants to take everything away from you because you told him to fuck off.
>>22364155Quantum science. But wait, your to fucking stupid to occult the quantum. So keep to your ancient mental illness via outdated models.
>>22364163>he's essentially the top cheese of the OSOAA who Ape and Nubti must obeyBS. Don't know about K, but I'm freelancing. My only obligations are to my God, and as far as I know, he's not incarnate.Also OSOA.'.A.'. is MY project -- K and S had been involved for a while, but have quieted down over the last half year or so. It's basically just me at this point.>and that Satyr has all the info and motive to dox Ape for his purposeAll three of us can dox the two others. It's really not as big a deal as you seem to believe.And while I do realize this will likely just reinforce your delusions... you're reading far too deep into it.Nobody's out to get anyone. The library is still accessible, save for potential updates (I've no idea if K is going to be updating it at all). Nothing has been lost.
>>22349430redpill me on Vril
>>22364184The reason people hate Crowley is because he produced people like you. Basically, he killed occultism.It's still dead, but I'm hopeful that will change within my lifetime.
>>22364223Occultism, in the technical sense of the term, was always bullshit.
Can anyone point me to the most complete/non fucked version of The Corpus Hermeticum? Heard some versions have missing chapters and others have severely misinterpreted edits.
>>22364120Hmm that's pretty defensive.>>22364163>All this fucking drama nobody gives a shit aboutLol hermetishits
HeyWhere startWhat's top 5 beginner bookspls help I want to throw fireballs and levitate
>>22364486I heard 3e is pretty good
>>22364543I'm 12 and what's a 3e
The eye is a really bad source for a library so big. I there no other place hosting the same dump?
What are some interesting takes on occult in fiction? Movies, comics, manga, TV, books...Asking cause it seems that nowadays (well, pretty much always been the case I suppose), it's all about child's fantasy or teenage angsty stuff.Looking for stuff that actually resonate with the "real" occult. Only example I have in mind is The Invisibles by Grant Morrison.
>>22349430i dont know where else to go so i’ll ask here. i really dont know where to go after death. ive been lost lately...any recommendations?
>>22349430how do I download it the book?
>>22364743no seriously, how do you mass download shit? what does this mean?wget -m -np -c -w 3 --no-check-certificate -R "index.html*" "https://the-eye.eu/public/Books/Temple_Of_Solomon_The_King/"
>>22364777You're supposed to run it on a terminal. I don't know if it works on windows, but it will work on linux and macos, assuming macos already has wget installed. This is a bad way to have a library so big accessible, since it's so slow. I'd prefer it be made into a torrent.
>>22364806Yeah, I've no idea how to even set such a thing up. I use windows as well, my pc is aids.
>>22364617>i really dont know where to go after death. ive been lost lately...any recommendations?I know where I'M going.
>>22364608Ever read Sandman by Neil Gaiman?
>>22364191>redpill me on Vrilhttps://docdro.id/gzSnD8O
Hey guys, is this book any good?
>>22364868Sorry for the late response.Thank you.
>>22354556"Shinigami love apples?"
>>22364074God does not have to prove himself to you or anyone else. He told Adam and Eve not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. It was a sign of his sovereignty. Since man failed his first rule , he banish them from the garden of Eden because the second tree-the tree of eternal life. Jesus is that tree. Trust and love the Lord with all your might, mind and heart and you will enter paradise. Also you are a dumbfag that is a lazy piece of shit for not even attempting to read and comprehend the bible.
>>22364835Nah. Not the first time I'm hearing the name, will give it a shot thanks.
>>22365045Jesus was the liberator of man, to truly liberate him from this hell that the Creator trapped him within, for Christ is the messenger of the True God, Lucifer.
Any suggestions on how to break black magic?
>>22365120LBRP, burn sage or palo santo. Also use a phrase of banishing during LBRP, such as:>hekas, hekas, este bebeloi>apo pantos, kakodaimonosand my personal favourite,>begone, thots!
>>22365246LBRP? Please forgive me, I am very new to all of this, but a friend of mine is suffering as a result of Black Magic, so I just wanna be able to suggest stuff that may actually help, or go some way towards helping. I'll pass on those tips, for sure.
>>22365045>God does not have to prove himself to you or anyone else.If I'm his creation, then he had damned well better because he's responsible for me, now isn't he? Imagine being a parent, and abusing and neglecting your child every day, then being enraged at the police when they haul you away after seeing your 12 year old child that can't speak, covered in its own shit with three broken limbs and covered in bruises and scars. That's the god of the jews. Except the police haven't yet come and when they do they're not taking him to jail.
>>22365070That actually would make more sense.>>22365261More likely he's suffering from untreated psychological issues. "Black magic" is bullshit.
>>22365362Fantasy island story time
>>22365369>Fantasy islandThis is real boomer hour memes here.
Black magic in spanish is negro magic!
>>22365261I'm gonna level with you; it's not black magic. Nonetheless, LBRP is Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram. Have your friend perform it daily for a week, if it's actually a spiritual issue, that'll solve it.
>>22365475Thanks, I appreciate the bluntness, too. If it makes him feel better, even by placebo, it'll be something. Then I can at least get him out of the damn house and actually get down to some psychology shit.
>>22364074Everyone has to die, but if they believe in God he will give them eternal life
>>22365654Why not now? It would be quite easy to make even humans immortal. Literally just a few tweaks to stem cells and a few other things and that's it. Why doesn't or can't god do it now? What about every other species?
>>22365475>daily for a week
>>22358778That's true, yeah, but that's not even close to why Ape shut the library down, so I dunno why you mentioned it.
Done any magick, lads?Tbh, I think I'm gonna quit, at least momentarily, wanna learn a martial art and get a bit fitter.
>>22366737Oh, I know about qigong, I do practice some, I think it's very nice. But qigong isn't magic.
>>22366659>Tbh, I think I'm gonna quitI mean have you done anything besides sigils?
>>22366915I tried chaos magick, seemed random.I tried Modern Magick by Kraig, seemed to do nothing.I tried some books by Asenath Mason, with no results.I tried to follow a modern gnostic church and accidentally summoned the demon Abraxas, which is who they were worshipping.Iunno, there is something, but definitely it's uncommon to get actual results, plus I'm not interested in going to hell.
>>22366971Have you tried science and quantum mechanics by chance? Because magic doesn’t real
>>22367049Thanks for your wrong opinion, I shall reward thee with the only thing you understand.
>>22364163Yup, youre still mentally ill, paranoid, and obsessed. Absolutely pathetic narrative building and literal fake news. I cant tell if you honestly believe this insanity or if youre just lying to manipulate the narrative. Either way you're a piece of human garbage and you should tie weights to your legs and jump in a lake.
>>22364300>is the only retard who uses that word>has used that word to stir up drama in the recent pastYour transparency is cute and isn't fooling anyone.
Have you guys had any results with magic or the goetia or whatever thing you may? care to share the results or the stories about them?
>>22366971>accidentally summoned the demon Abraxas, which is who they were worshippingStory? Abraxas looks cool.
>>22367741>is a hermetishit
>>22368029For several reasons that I prefer to omit, I got interested in gnosticism after much deliberation, so initially I looked after a modern church, Samael Aun Weor seemed bullshit not only because he seemed to worship the demiurge, but also because of his failed prophecies and so on, so I choose pic related, which is the official book of some murrican gnostic church that's kinda active online and so on.So I read it and they seemed to be worshipping this version of gnosticism wherein god is called Abraxas, and they had very detailed rituals, not only for Abraxas, mind, but for other aeons and powers.So I started practicing as per their suggestions in the book, and I started feeling weird energy-like stuff in my body. Investigating this stuff I found out that I was being sent signs by this Abraxas being, I could vibrate the name to send energy to areas where I would feel pain, and amazingly, the pain would subside, so I thought it was the gnostic god. It wasn't, after some time, this being by means of arduous energy communication made me understand that he wanted me to pick some demonolatry books to make deals with him and whatnot.So I quit the whole system and never contacted the being.
>>22368180Pussy. Contact him again and report back.
>>22368180Your the type that’ll worship garden gnomes.
>>22364608The tranny mentioned a good one,By medium (this list isn’t exhaustive at all btw)>Comic booksSandmanThe InvisiblesFrom Hellsome other one by Alan Moore I don’t remember the name of, with a woman>MoviesThe Holy MountainHereditaryThe Tree of LifeThe Truman ShowThe Last TemptationSuspiriaThe WitchStar Wars2001 A Spce Odyssey Enter the Void>ShowsNeon Genesis EvangelionTrue Detective (kinda)Twin Peaks
>>22368755>anime to teach you cartoon physicslol
So is it true that Ape is Brazilian? D-do you guys think he's a qt ( ._.)
>>22369475He's a Bulbasaur so no
>>22369478How is he a Bulbasaur?
>>22369475Ape's native. Don't know what, specifically.
>>22369489Skin colorMelanin enhanced
>>22369496Whoa. How do you know>>22369497Ahh
>>22369497What does that have to do with bulbasaur? >>22369506Idk exactly, he or other people would bring it up time to time. Just sort of info that floated around. He / others used the term 'amerind' (American Indian) often, you could search that on the archive to see them talk about it.
I'm a believing Christian taking any prayer requests for healing. I don't need a name, just tell me the disease. God bless.
Hello! I need some books about reprogramming reality, like Prometheus Rising and Undoing yourself. Is there any suggestion? also, how can I apply it to my rituals?
>>22369804Prayed. God bless you Anon.
Im going to post some pictures. Wonder if anyone has some information, thanks.
>>22369815What sort of rituals? Are you actually performing rites or just hypothetical?
>>22355850I think penises are beautiful, I was one of those kids who always used to draw them in school. <3
>>22370410Wanna hook up
>>22370436I don't do hookups...
>>22370449Want to date
>>22370460I have a boyfriend, are you okay with polyamory? And would you be willing to meet in a coffee shop in broad daylight, internet stranger? :P
>>22370463I don't mind. I'll meet up
>>22370470Okay and are you within the Spokane/CDA area? :0
>>22370472No. I'm in Wisconsin
>>22370503yeah because I really think your cute...I'm a transgirl also
>>22370542Aw :(Well if you ever visit the area, hmu. Do you have Discord?
>discord is so very trusting
Welp this thread has devolved into lusting after nonpassing trannies.