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Titan is the largest moon of Saturn. It is the only moon known to have a dense atmosphere, and the only object in space, other than Earth, where clear evidence of stable bodies of surface liquid have been found.
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>>22198525
probably budget problems. maybe it's cheaper to do the jupiter thing with ESA instead. maybe they found something valuable on ganymede. maybe ayys fired warning shots at one of our sats.
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>>22198525
There’s nothing there.
We are all alone.
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Travel time : 3 years 2 months to Titan.
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>>22198545
Oooo I see
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>>22198559
We are doomed
That was humans only real hope.
Does anyone know of asteroids hitting the Earth in 2030 ?
Heard two were coming just wanted some facts on it.
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>>22198545
Something that would of created jobs with a meaningful reason.
Jobs money into the economy
Money the paper the government prints
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>>22198660
ok, do you have any ideas about why nasa pushed titan back?
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Because op is an even bigger faggot that NASA.
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They were scared Thanos was real
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>Titan's surface liquids are fucking Methane and a mix of Acids
Because they know jackshit about how to build a probe able to survive inside the massively toxic and caustic atmosphere.
Hell, we would be able to design one able to survive on Venus before doing the same for Titan
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>>22198545
it's always budget problems

hard to get funding for this shit nowadays, with no space race to win and no profitable application
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>>22198642
the real threat is the suns hyper flare / micronova cycle that hits every 12-13 thousand years.
look up Suspicious0bservers channel on jewtube. he has a playlist on it
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>>22200528
Also Russia's Venera series mostly worked on Venus' surface, albeit briefly.
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it's amazing how much space exploration we've actually accomplished that often goes unnoticed as time goes on.
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>>22203610
Everyone should know the story of Hayabusa, the little space probe who could.
https://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/1849
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>>22198642
Pretty sure Apophis has a decent chance, and comes around every so often. Each pass getting closer and closer.
2029? I think will be the next pass.
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>>22203637
oh shit, this looks cool
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>>22203567
They're on one of the fucking moons of Saturn, and they still can't even flip the phone sideways..
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>>22203656
The whole thing isn't translated sadly, but if you're familiar with the mission you can mostly see what's going on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKMmWUad1wY
Another take on anthropomorphizing the probe, the japs took a lot of national pride in it and for good reason.
>>22203657
kek
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i'll never forget when we got sat pictures back from Pluto a few years ago, listening to good old richard hoagland insist he could see structures and arcologies. good times.
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>>22203595
well I eat my words.
touché
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>>22203595
amazing
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>>22203767
As other anon said, it's amazing how many accomplishments in space exploration are relatively unknown to a startling amount of people.
People should know this shit, it's interesting.
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>>22203858
I went outside and watched the transit of Venus in 2012, through several pairs of shades and a chunk of welding-glass. Won't happen again while I'm alive.
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Oh shit that's right this is /x/, have some spooky space.
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>>22204017
based and spacepilled
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>>22198673
No I don't it's why I posted it.
Satan has many moons
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>>22198642
2029
10 years
"but will come no closer than 31,200 kilometres (19,400 mi) above Earth's surface."
>nobody panic
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>>22200528
Russia sent a probe in the 70s to Venus and sent back photos.
Some of Saturns other moons are bare just like earths moon.
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>>22203595
Right that is Venus but what about titan ?
That probe was built and sent in the 70s
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>>22204071
That's good to know
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>>22204091
See the first reply to the post that one was responding to.
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>>22204121
Yes
But 2020 ESA and IS are sending another probe to Titan.
If NASA keeper the original Titan program the astronauts would have been back around now.
Makes no sense to have done all that work and research and then destroy everything.
Arrogance of mankind
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>>22198545
I'm excited to see EUA new engine
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>>22198545
what if those nukes... were ayyz?
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>>22204071
>earth's diameter is 7917mi
>that's a little more than 2 earths away
>moon is 238,900 mi away
>over 30 times closer than the moon is to the earth
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>>22204314
that's frighteningly close.
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>>22203567
looks like a lime-ish color filter of "mars's" surface
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>>22204333
trips of terror

but yeah what if there's some dark matter or space debris and it nudges the asteroids ever so slightly? these asteroids are so fucking close.
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>>22204230
Plenty of good projects have never seen fruition, it's sad.
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>>22204356
Evidently there's a 'keyhole' of uncertainty, wherever it's supposed to pass it's still missing Earth in 2029. The question is, does the trajectory it has after the flyby bring it back around for another near-miss in 2036, or an impact? How the flyby occurs in 2029 will tell us.
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>>22204658
Nasa's space calculators are regularly off by a factor of 10~20. Not just Nasa ALL 'space' equations.
I can link Michiau Kaku on youtube explaining that.

It's trajectory? good as unknown, enjoy your disinformation
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>>22198525
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>>22203567
Why are the rocks all worn down, they look like old river rocks.
Is this really titan?
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>>22203674
where is this from?
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>>22198559
You are all alone in your own world.
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>>22204658
>Google it
>It'll happen on friday the 13th
Scared.jpg
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We've been able to land probes on asteroids already
By the time we need to worry about NEO's, we'll be able to accurately shoot a rocket to space, latch onto the asteroid, kick the gas on, and fly that fucker out of orbit
Course thats if people actually put their lives before their money. Rare thing surprisingly.
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>>22203674
>comic sans on an official report

pathetic
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>>22205111
>We've been able to land probes on asteroids already
>By the time we need to worry about NEO's, we'll be able to accurately shoot a rocket to space, latch onto the asteroid, kick the gas on, and fly that fucker out of orbit
>Course thats if people actually put their lives before their money. Rare thing surprisingly.
When money doesn't matter anymore, you can count on people coming together to stop it.
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>>22205147
And that's not gonna happen until full automation. Decades and decades away dude.
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>>22205174
>full automation
What does that term mean to you? My understanding may differ from yours.
>Decades and decades away dude.
You sound like you've been there before. Enlighten me then.
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>>22205188
Production delivery stocking and selling of goods entirely automated, with energy all renewable and all automated systems optimized. People receiving UBI so work is optional to live, people granted extra income or benefits for choosing to work to support the automation.
At that point money becomes a luxury. At that point society will naturally shift up maslow's hierarchy, as lots and lots of hardships will disappear and more people will have the mental fortitude to learn and challenge some of the tougher issues we are facing.
Right now out of 100 people 80 are just working to survive. Imagine if they had the capacity to spend their time improving the world instead. Course that requires the death of corporations making bank off senseless zombie inducing media, if that were still as popular as it is now people would spend their time consuming garbage instead of improving. But the hope is that that's only popular because people seek escape from hard work and that without hard work they would shoot for something more worthwhile, and maybe once education is as easy as plugging your brain up to a free vr classroom more people will enjoy it, especially as it would not be about getting a degree for work but rather to learn and contribute more to the world.
Tldr: Automation=Goods produced so we can have UBI and then money means nothing, hopefully people will find the time and energy to tackle real issues like asteroid defense and environment health rather than watching 10 hours of youtube and being depressed.
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>>22205252
Assuming no world changing events happen before then, I can see that. I have my doubts that we will reach that point now that more people are asking questions about life. I'm under the impression there are people unaware of certain knowledge.
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Not tryna bring /pol/ shit here but trump literally offered to fund nasa hundreds of t r i l l i o n s of dollars and take the cap off their funding yet they said no. You tell me what's wrong with this picture
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>>22205442
Perhaps he should help fund ol' Musky
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>>22205456
My thoughts exactly! Except I thought about proposing a merger of the two so you can have them both pumping out space equipment other bits of tech at a steady pace
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>>22198525
Organic life. That's why.
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>>22205442

NASA knows their full of shit, and even THEY have a limit on how much they're willing to steal from the American tax payer.

Space is fake CGI propaganda.
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>>22205065
CIA, project Stargate.
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>>22205252
Judging by the amount of time ppl sink into brainlet tv compared to actually use their brain you might want to come up with a plan "b".
Right NOW there is a unbelieveable wealth of knowledge lying around for fucking free in the internet, but, guess what, serial reruns are what ppl watch.
UBI will put a stopper into human progression, when even those who have to be creative now to get their beans can afford to lay off.
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>>22204880
Because Titan has liquid on the surface, lakes and rivers and whole weather systems, just based on liquid methane instead of water. Those rocks were worn down in a stream just like on Earth.
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>>22205442
He offered them a budget to get them to Mars by 2020, that is what you mean. And anyone with half a fucking retard-brain can tell you why they turned the offer down (because it's impossible, dipshit). At no point did Trump offer unconditional, uncapped funding to NASA. He bitched and moaned about 2030s (as outlined in HIS BUDGET) being realistic, but he's obviously too dumb to understand orbital mechanics.
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>>22205786
Can you cite this claim? It's the first I've heard of it.
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>>22205792
It's 100% him pulling anything out his ass to improve his image.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/01/trump-offered-nasa-unlimited-funding-to-go-to-mars-by-2020.html
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>>22205807
Two lines in and I've read enough from this 'source'. More spooky space, less garbage politics please, no need for that kind of nonsense derail itt.
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>>22205725
Currently people have no incentive to learn.
Try getting a job at NASA without college education, and college education currently costs an assrape. Now, if simply going to NASA, showing them that you've been through government education that was free and proving you have the know how to solve whatever our current objective is, then lots of people will do that. Currently there's neither the easy ability to apply oneself, nor the reward that makes it worth it. But in the future ubi automated society the few we need to solve our issues will climb to the top. People will sant to be the guy that solved this or that. They do already but many lack the resources or the ability.
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>>22198642
>a moon of a gas giant is humanity's last hope
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>>22206848
Nah but it's neat that there's an atmosphere and lakes of methane, might be more useful to our descendants than we know now.
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>>22205833
That's not true
If you do have knowledge that NASA can use and prove it scientifically they will hire you.
But you you better know what you are talking about and how you came to that conclusion.
If you get past the 3 boards you will have to start or return to college as you work there.
These cases are rare
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>>22207049
The methane could be turned into breathing air with the right chemical reaction.
This reaction could be in the asteroid belt and impacted in by robotics
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>>22205442
No, that never happened. Keep the fake news in /pol/
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>>22207425
>The methane could be turned into breathing air with the right chemical reaction.

Oh really?

What's the reaction?
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>>22205111
What about the Law
November, 2002 - The Homeland Security Act signed into law by President Bush imposes new restrictions on amateur and high power rocketry. Consumers need an ATF permit to purchase rocket motors using ammonium perchlorate composite propellant (APCP) over the 62.5 gram limit.
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MAGA! TRUMP 2020 FUK YEH
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>>22207470
Hold on
> there is much information on the internet.
Joking

Methane-eating microbes make their own oxygen
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>>22207470
I copied past this

Water can be used to generate breathable oxygen and nitrogen is ideal to add buffer gas partial pressure to breathable air (it forms about 78% of Earth's atmosphere).[7] Nitrogen, methane and ammonia can all be used to produce fertilizer for growing food.
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>>22207534
Well, we could use some different rocket fuel, or just get the fucking permit.
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>>22207470
solid oxide electrolysis
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>>22207592
Ok
Now when can you launch your hobby rocket ?
Do I need a location, time and etc
Can't use lead paint on space craft going out of the radiation belts that technology no longer exists
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Yes
Lead paint technology is no longer available
Do to the dust of the lead.
You could put graphite over the paint to stop the dust but the lead paint technology doesn't exist so there for you can't use lead paint
E= mc 2
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>>22207592
Something simple like this
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>>22207753
Yes this technology is old but I think it would be fun as a hobby

Photo same time line as X-15
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We can start a amateur rocket club like back in the 80s

Anyone up for this
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>>22207592
Well there was this one crazy idea once.
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>>22207915
Looks expensive for hobby
Hay we can welcome everyone
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>>22208036
It would also require the procurement of several hundred low-yield nuclear warheads for propulsion, so yeah maybe a small sounding rocket is a more realistic starting goal.
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>>22208055
Oooo
Yes big dollars
I don't think anyone would give a permit for a nuclear reactor hobby
One mans waste could be another's fuel in a space vacuum
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>>22208290
>I don't think anyone would give a permit for a nuclear reactor hobby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0QMeTjcJDA
No, but there's a merit badge for it if you're in Eagle Scouts.
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>>22208409
Nice
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>>22208290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njM7xlQIjnQ
Some additional information on propulsion via nuclear explosions. It would totally work, but good luck convincing any government to let you detonate a hundred bombs in the atmosphere to hoist the damn thing into orbit.
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>>22208450
That's a long shot there
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>>22208509
Not like we haven't set off way more nukes than that before, just usually not all in a row on the same day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY
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>>22208519
Slower way to radiate everyone
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>>22208570
*irradiate, and yeah kinda. Shit killed John Wayne, too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_(1956_film)
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>>22205111
Or we can just send Bruce Willis
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>>22208703
Ooo
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>>22208719
Safety first
Human life is the most valuable
Robots can drill
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Aztec would chop heads off during solar eclipses
One day we will change and explore with out human sacrifice
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>>22198660
It's not a "If you post the job openings, they will come and we'll get more money." type situation. They work within the constraints of the budget, and ask for more funding next time. Like every government agency. >>22202156 is also correct. Check out the "Green New Deal" and tell me that space missions are a priority if shit like that is being proposed.
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>>22198525
NASA doesn't wanna piss off this big boi.
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>>22208836
Space is not a priority
It never was the interest in space is so low.
Look at all the propaganda now to discourage people
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>>22208836
The green deal
Haven't looked at it yet
I can just think what's in it
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The earth is heating up the just have to find out why.
Truthfully
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>>22208925
Like the Aztec don't chop head if you don't fully understand something you maybe hampering your self
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>>22208290
it ain't a reactor sweetie
it's literally throwing nukes behind, making them go boom and using that boom to push a plate, giving inercia to the ship
and yup, it's fucking doable!
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>>22208992
Scram jet but nuclear
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>>22209004
ehm... no
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>>22209008
Oo
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>>22209004
Not really. The Orion project literally shot nuclear warheads out behind the craft, detonated them, then rode the shockwave on a pusher-plate.
Scramjets are a different animal entirely.
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>>22209022
Oooo
Got you
Like a wave
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>>22208992
Interesting
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHfUvlqoH-I
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>>22209046
Scramjet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUf9xrn6SeM
SLAM-jet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZHONQAMV48
.webm unrelated
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>>22209063
Oooo
Need a lot of booms
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>send a probe to sit alone on the Moon
>visit it later and take a few bits back to Earth
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WHAT A SURPRISE! That non-government project to send people to Mars is SHUT DOWN.
I predicted this two years ago, and what do you know, yes, nobody's going to Mars.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanocallaghan/2019/02/11/goodbye-mars-one-the-fake-mission-to-mars-that-fooled-the-world/?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral#12f11f1d2af5
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>>22209735
It was always bullshit.
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>>22198525
someone kept "Borrowing" the ladder.
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>>22204071
Attach thrusters to asteroid and hide in mega-shelters . Reduce population where needed .
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>>22198525
>Why did NASA stop the Titan mission ?
More like
>Why did NASA...
Stop.
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>>22210597
still banned?
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>>22210599
?
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>>22198525
Because the Earth is a cage. Whether its Archons or just the VAB. Were not going anywhere.
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>>22203567
Weird how were avoiding all that helium 3 on the moon, and a zero gravity launch site.... for what reason again?
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>>22204719
ok
>>22198525
interesting
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>>22210757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Pee0mghsNQ

>Q
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>>22203595
Sweet jesus! That's the best picture of venus i've ever seen!!
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>>22207559
>Methane-eating microbes make their own oxygen
two million years later ...
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>>22210836
So basically we're stuck to die off like the dinosaurs.
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>>22210625
You footing the bill? China's been sending stuff there recently, I think they're eyeing up our prize.
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>>22210808
I'm not sure if that one is colorized or this one is de-colorized. In any case, thank the ruskies for stubbornly sending probes to Venus and not letting a few failures stop them.
>send probe all the way to Venus
>designed to test soil composition before pressure/heat destroy probe
>camera covered by thick lens cap designed to come off after landing
>tfw the cap pops off and lands right in the sample collection dish
>tfw you fly 162 million miles to test the composition of your lens cap
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venera_14
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>>22211120
at least Venera 13 had more luck with its lens cap
also it was amazing how they expected both landers to work for less than 40min but 13 managed to survive almost 2.5h and 14 almost 1h
gotta love Soviets for this thing
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I was reviewing NASA Apollo photos and found this, does any one have the slightest idea what this anomalous object is?
Zoom in, it looks like a UFO! Also noticed this had been scrubbed from other official NASA archives -did they miss this one?

Original Source:
>https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-140-21495HR.jpg

I thinking if Apollo was a real UFO it was cover for this:
Moon Base 1966
>https://history.army.mil/faq/horizon/Horizon_V1.pdf
>https://history.army.mil/faq/horizon/Horizon_V2.pdf

Which would explain this:
Moon base destroyed 1978
>https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/P790011-1247_e.html
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>>22211902
SHILL!
MINE IS NOT SHOPPED GO LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL ON THE NASA ARCHIVE LINK

>https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-140-21495HR.jpg
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>>22211899
thoughts on what this is?
Worthy of it's own thread?
Are there any serious people on here?
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>>22211925
Why are you posting shops when I've just said there's a UFO in the OFFICIAL NASA Apollo archive photos?

>https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-140-21495HR.jpg
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>>22211899
Looks like a shadow, dunno what of.
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>>22211989
Thanks, I made a thread, I think it's worthy on it's own merit.

I think it's the CONVAIR APOLLO 1961
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>>22209659
>>send a probe to sit alone on the Moon
>>visit it later and take a few bits back to Earth
read here to see the biological experiment Apollo12 was up to:
http://hekatestation.net/S3/S3_files/S3_1.zip
password: spider

( skip to 4:19 if you don't want to watch intro story )
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>>22209318
holy crap. this is cool
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>>22212896
That was a fun movie.
>>22212899
KSP-tier



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