Titan is the largest moon of Saturn. It is the only moon known to have a dense atmosphere, and the only object in space, other than Earth, where clear evidence of stable bodies of surface liquid have been found.
>>22198525probably budget problems. maybe it's cheaper to do the jupiter thing with ESA instead. maybe they found something valuable on ganymede. maybe ayys fired warning shots at one of our sats.
>>22198525There’s nothing there. We are all alone.
Travel time : 3 years 2 months to Titan.
>>22198545Oooo I see
>>22198559We are doomed That was humans only real hope.Does anyone know of asteroids hitting the Earth in 2030 ?Heard two were coming just wanted some facts on it.
>>22198545Something that would of created jobs with a meaningful reason.Jobs money into the economy Money the paper the government prints
>>22198660ok, do you have any ideas about why nasa pushed titan back?
Because op is an even bigger faggot that NASA.
They were scared Thanos was real
>Titan's surface liquids are fucking Methane and a mix of AcidsBecause they know jackshit about how to build a probe able to survive inside the massively toxic and caustic atmosphere.Hell, we would be able to design one able to survive on Venus before doing the same for Titan
>>22198545it's always budget problemshard to get funding for this shit nowadays, with no space race to win and no profitable application
>>22198642the real threat is the suns hyper flare / micronova cycle that hits every 12-13 thousand years.look up Suspicious0bservers channel on jewtube. he has a playlist on it
>>22200528Also Russia's Venera series mostly worked on Venus' surface, albeit briefly.
it's amazing how much space exploration we've actually accomplished that often goes unnoticed as time goes on.
>>22203610Everyone should know the story of Hayabusa, the little space probe who could.https://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/1849
>>22198642Pretty sure Apophis has a decent chance, and comes around every so often. Each pass getting closer and closer.2029? I think will be the next pass.
>>22203637oh shit, this looks cool
>>22203567They're on one of the fucking moons of Saturn, and they still can't even flip the phone sideways..
>>22203656The whole thing isn't translated sadly, but if you're familiar with the mission you can mostly see what's going on.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKMmWUad1wYAnother take on anthropomorphizing the probe, the japs took a lot of national pride in it and for good reason.>>22203657kek
i'll never forget when we got sat pictures back from Pluto a few years ago, listening to good old richard hoagland insist he could see structures and arcologies. good times.
>>22203567>>22203595well I eat my words.touché
>>22203767As other anon said, it's amazing how many accomplishments in space exploration are relatively unknown to a startling amount of people.People should know this shit, it's interesting.
>>22203858I went outside and watched the transit of Venus in 2012, through several pairs of shades and a chunk of welding-glass. Won't happen again while I'm alive.
Oh shit that's right this is /x/, have some spooky space.
>>22204017based and spacepilled
>>22198673No I don't it's why I posted it.Satan has many moons
>>22198642202910 years "but will come no closer than 31,200 kilometres (19,400 mi) above Earth's surface.">nobody panic
>>22200528Russia sent a probe in the 70s to Venus and sent back photos.Some of Saturns other moons are bare just like earths moon.
>>22203595Right that is Venus but what about titan ?That probe was built and sent in the 70s
>>22204071That's good to know
>>22204091See the first reply to the post that one was responding to.
>>22204121Yes But 2020 ESA and IS are sending another probe to Titan.If NASA keeper the original Titan program the astronauts would have been back around now. Makes no sense to have done all that work and research and then destroy everything. Arrogance of mankind
>>22198545I'm excited to see EUA new engine
>>22198545what if those nukes... were ayyz?
>>22204071>earth's diameter is 7917mi>that's a little more than 2 earths away>moon is 238,900 mi away>over 30 times closer than the moon is to the earth
>>22204314that's frighteningly close.
>>22203567looks like a lime-ish color filter of "mars's" surface
>>22204333trips of terrorbut yeah what if there's some dark matter or space debris and it nudges the asteroids ever so slightly? these asteroids are so fucking close.
>>22204230Plenty of good projects have never seen fruition, it's sad.
>>22204356Evidently there's a 'keyhole' of uncertainty, wherever it's supposed to pass it's still missing Earth in 2029. The question is, does the trajectory it has after the flyby bring it back around for another near-miss in 2036, or an impact? How the flyby occurs in 2029 will tell us.gif unrelated
>>22204658Nasa's space calculators are regularly off by a factor of 10~20. Not just Nasa ALL 'space' equations.I can link Michiau Kaku on youtube explaining that.It's trajectory? good as unknown, enjoy your disinformation
>>22203567Why are the rocks all worn down, they look like old river rocks.Is this really titan?
>>22203674where is this from?
>>22198559You are all alone in your own world.
>>22204658>Google it>It'll happen on friday the 13thScared.jpg
We've been able to land probes on asteroids alreadyBy the time we need to worry about NEO's, we'll be able to accurately shoot a rocket to space, latch onto the asteroid, kick the gas on, and fly that fucker out of orbitCourse thats if people actually put their lives before their money. Rare thing surprisingly.
>>22203674>comic sans on an official reportpathetic
>>22205111>We've been able to land probes on asteroids already>By the time we need to worry about NEO's, we'll be able to accurately shoot a rocket to space, latch onto the asteroid, kick the gas on, and fly that fucker out of orbit>Course thats if people actually put their lives before their money. Rare thing surprisingly.When money doesn't matter anymore, you can count on people coming together to stop it.
>>22205147And that's not gonna happen until full automation. Decades and decades away dude.
>>22205174>full automationWhat does that term mean to you? My understanding may differ from yours.>Decades and decades away dude.You sound like you've been there before. Enlighten me then.
>>22205188Production delivery stocking and selling of goods entirely automated, with energy all renewable and all automated systems optimized. People receiving UBI so work is optional to live, people granted extra income or benefits for choosing to work to support the automation.At that point money becomes a luxury. At that point society will naturally shift up maslow's hierarchy, as lots and lots of hardships will disappear and more people will have the mental fortitude to learn and challenge some of the tougher issues we are facing.Right now out of 100 people 80 are just working to survive. Imagine if they had the capacity to spend their time improving the world instead. Course that requires the death of corporations making bank off senseless zombie inducing media, if that were still as popular as it is now people would spend their time consuming garbage instead of improving. But the hope is that that's only popular because people seek escape from hard work and that without hard work they would shoot for something more worthwhile, and maybe once education is as easy as plugging your brain up to a free vr classroom more people will enjoy it, especially as it would not be about getting a degree for work but rather to learn and contribute more to the world.Tldr: Automation=Goods produced so we can have UBI and then money means nothing, hopefully people will find the time and energy to tackle real issues like asteroid defense and environment health rather than watching 10 hours of youtube and being depressed.
>>22205252Assuming no world changing events happen before then, I can see that. I have my doubts that we will reach that point now that more people are asking questions about life. I'm under the impression there are people unaware of certain knowledge.
Not tryna bring /pol/ shit here but trump literally offered to fund nasa hundreds of t r i l l i o n s of dollars and take the cap off their funding yet they said no. You tell me what's wrong with this picture
>>22205442Perhaps he should help fund ol' Musky
>>22205456My thoughts exactly! Except I thought about proposing a merger of the two so you can have them both pumping out space equipment other bits of tech at a steady pace
>>22198525Organic life. That's why.
>>22205442NASA knows their full of shit, and even THEY have a limit on how much they're willing to steal from the American tax payer. Space is fake CGI propaganda.
>>22205065CIA, project Stargate.
>>22205252Judging by the amount of time ppl sink into brainlet tv compared to actually use their brain you might want to come up with a plan "b".Right NOW there is a unbelieveable wealth of knowledge lying around for fucking free in the internet, but, guess what, serial reruns are what ppl watch. UBI will put a stopper into human progression, when even those who have to be creative now to get their beans can afford to lay off.
>>22204880Because Titan has liquid on the surface, lakes and rivers and whole weather systems, just based on liquid methane instead of water. Those rocks were worn down in a stream just like on Earth.
>>22205442He offered them a budget to get them to Mars by 2020, that is what you mean. And anyone with half a fucking retard-brain can tell you why they turned the offer down (because it's impossible, dipshit). At no point did Trump offer unconditional, uncapped funding to NASA. He bitched and moaned about 2030s (as outlined in HIS BUDGET) being realistic, but he's obviously too dumb to understand orbital mechanics.
>>22205786Can you cite this claim? It's the first I've heard of it.
>>22205792It's 100% him pulling anything out his ass to improve his image.http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/01/trump-offered-nasa-unlimited-funding-to-go-to-mars-by-2020.html
>>22205807Two lines in and I've read enough from this 'source'. More spooky space, less garbage politics please, no need for that kind of nonsense derail itt.
>>22205725Currently people have no incentive to learn.Try getting a job at NASA without college education, and college education currently costs an assrape. Now, if simply going to NASA, showing them that you've been through government education that was free and proving you have the know how to solve whatever our current objective is, then lots of people will do that. Currently there's neither the easy ability to apply oneself, nor the reward that makes it worth it. But in the future ubi automated society the few we need to solve our issues will climb to the top. People will sant to be the guy that solved this or that. They do already but many lack the resources or the ability.
>>22198642>a moon of a gas giant is humanity's last hope
>>22206848Nah but it's neat that there's an atmosphere and lakes of methane, might be more useful to our descendants than we know now.
>>22205833That's not true If you do have knowledge that NASA can use and prove it scientifically they will hire you.But you you better know what you are talking about and how you came to that conclusion.If you get past the 3 boards you will have to start or return to college as you work there.These cases are rare
>>22207049The methane could be turned into breathing air with the right chemical reaction. This reaction could be in the asteroid belt and impacted in by robotics
>>22205442No, that never happened. Keep the fake news in /pol/
>>22207425>The methane could be turned into breathing air with the right chemical reaction.Oh really?What's the reaction?
>>22205111What about the LawNovember, 2002 - The Homeland Security Act signed into law by President Bush imposes new restrictions on amateur and high power rocketry. Consumers need an ATF permit to purchase rocket motors using ammonium perchlorate composite propellant (APCP) over the 62.5 gram limit.
MAGA! TRUMP 2020 FUK YEH
>>22207470Hold on> there is much information on the internet.Joking Methane-eating microbes make their own oxygen
>>22207470I copied past this Water can be used to generate breathable oxygen and nitrogen is ideal to add buffer gas partial pressure to breathable air (it forms about 78% of Earth's atmosphere). Nitrogen, methane and ammonia can all be used to produce fertilizer for growing food.
>>22207534Well, we could use some different rocket fuel, or just get the fucking permit.
>>22207470solid oxide electrolysis
>>22207592Ok Now when can you launch your hobby rocket ?Do I need a location, time and etc Can't use lead paint on space craft going out of the radiation belts that technology no longer exists
Yes Lead paint technology is no longer available Do to the dust of the lead.You could put graphite over the paint to stop the dust but the lead paint technology doesn't exist so there for you can't use lead paint E= mc 2
>>22207592Something simple like this
>>22207753Yes this technology is old but I think it would be fun as a hobby Photo same time line as X-15
We can start a amateur rocket club like back in the 80sAnyone up for this
>>22207592Well there was this one crazy idea once.
>>22207915Looks expensive for hobby Hay we can welcome everyone
>>22208036It would also require the procurement of several hundred low-yield nuclear warheads for propulsion, so yeah maybe a small sounding rocket is a more realistic starting goal.
>>22208055OoooYes big dollarsI don't think anyone would give a permit for a nuclear reactor hobby One mans waste could be another's fuel in a space vacuum
>>22208290>I don't think anyone would give a permit for a nuclear reactor hobbyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0QMeTjcJDANo, but there's a merit badge for it if you're in Eagle Scouts.
>>22208290https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njM7xlQIjnQSome additional information on propulsion via nuclear explosions. It would totally work, but good luck convincing any government to let you detonate a hundred bombs in the atmosphere to hoist the damn thing into orbit.
>>22208450That's a long shot there
>>22208509Not like we haven't set off way more nukes than that before, just usually not all in a row on the same day.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY
>>22208519Slower way to radiate everyone
>>22208570*irradiate, and yeah kinda. Shit killed John Wayne, too.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_(1956_film)
>>22205111Or we can just send Bruce Willis
>>22208719Safety first Human life is the most valuable Robots can drill
Aztec would chop heads off during solar eclipsesOne day we will change and explore with out human sacrifice
>>22198660It's not a "If you post the job openings, they will come and we'll get more money." type situation. They work within the constraints of the budget, and ask for more funding next time. Like every government agency. >>22202156 is also correct. Check out the "Green New Deal" and tell me that space missions are a priority if shit like that is being proposed.
>>22198525NASA doesn't wanna piss off this big boi.
>>22208836Space is not a priority It never was the interest in space is so low.Look at all the propaganda now to discourage people
>>22208836The green deal Haven't looked at it yet I can just think what's in it
The earth is heating up the just have to find out why.Truthfully
>>22208925Like the Aztec don't chop head if you don't fully understand something you maybe hampering your self
>>22208290it ain't a reactor sweetieit's literally throwing nukes behind, making them go boom and using that boom to push a plate, giving inercia to the shipand yup, it's fucking doable!
>>22208992Scram jet but nuclear
>>22209004Not really. The Orion project literally shot nuclear warheads out behind the craft, detonated them, then rode the shockwave on a pusher-plate.Scramjets are a different animal entirely.
>>22209022OoooGot youLike a wave
>>22209063OoooNeed a lot of booms
What was this
>send a probe to sit alone on the Moon>visit it later and take a few bits back to Earth
WHAT A SURPRISE! That non-government project to send people to Mars is SHUT DOWN. I predicted this two years ago, and what do you know, yes, nobody's going to Mars.https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanocallaghan/2019/02/11/goodbye-mars-one-the-fake-mission-to-mars-that-fooled-the-world/?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral#12f11f1d2af5
>>22209735It was always bullshit.
>>22198525someone kept "Borrowing" the ladder.
>>22204071Attach thrusters to asteroid and hide in mega-shelters . Reduce population where needed .
>>22198525>Why did NASA stop the Titan mission ?More like>Why did NASA...Stop.
>>22198525Because the Earth is a cage. Whether its Archons or just the VAB. Were not going anywhere.
>>22203567Weird how were avoiding all that helium 3 on the moon, and a zero gravity launch site.... for what reason again?
>>22203595Sweet jesus! That's the best picture of venus i've ever seen!!
>>22207559>Methane-eating microbes make their own oxygentwo million years later ...
>>22210836So basically we're stuck to die off like the dinosaurs.
>>22210625You footing the bill? China's been sending stuff there recently, I think they're eyeing up our prize.
>>22210808I'm not sure if that one is colorized or this one is de-colorized. In any case, thank the ruskies for stubbornly sending probes to Venus and not letting a few failures stop them.>send probe all the way to Venus>designed to test soil composition before pressure/heat destroy probe>camera covered by thick lens cap designed to come off after landing>tfw the cap pops off and lands right in the sample collection dish>tfw you fly 162 million miles to test the composition of your lens caphttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venera_14
>>22211120at least Venera 13 had more luck with its lens capalso it was amazing how they expected both landers to work for less than 40min but 13 managed to survive almost 2.5h and 14 almost 1hgotta love Soviets for this thing
I was reviewing NASA Apollo photos and found this, does any one have the slightest idea what this anomalous object is? Zoom in, it looks like a UFO! Also noticed this had been scrubbed from other official NASA archives -did they miss this one?Original Source:>https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-140-21495HR.jpgI thinking if Apollo was a real UFO it was cover for this:Moon Base 1966>https://history.army.mil/faq/horizon/Horizon_V1.pdf>https://history.army.mil/faq/horizon/Horizon_V2.pdfWhich would explain this:Moon base destroyed 1978>https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/P790011-1247_e.html
>>22211902SHILL!MINE IS NOT SHOPPED GO LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL ON THE NASA ARCHIVE LINK>https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-140-21495HR.jpg
>>22211899thoughts on what this is? Worthy of it's own thread?Are there any serious people on here?
>>22211925Why are you posting shops when I've just said there's a UFO in the OFFICIAL NASA Apollo archive photos? >https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-140-21495HR.jpg
>>22211899Looks like a shadow, dunno what of.
>>22211989Thanks, I made a thread, I think it's worthy on it's own merit. I think it's the CONVAIR APOLLO 1961
>>22209659>>send a probe to sit alone on the Moon>>visit it later and take a few bits back to Earthread here to see the biological experiment Apollo12 was up to:http://hekatestation.net/S3/S3_files/S3_1.zippassword: spider( skip to 4:19 if you don't want to watch intro story )
>>22209318holy crap. this is cool
>>22212896That was a fun movie.>>22212899KSP-tier