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Goetia demon thread.

Talk of other demons is welcome too.

Pic related is a great way to evoke/invoke Goetic demons so they think you're an enemy and you invoke their righteous indignation against you. They will think you an enemy and will work against you when the first opportunity presents itself to them. The whole circle and triangle invocation/evocation were created by ancient Christian zealots that desired the power, wisdom and knowledge of the demonic forces, yet desired to torture them for matching their concept of evil. Which isn't very difficult to do even with modern Christian zealots. All you have to do is masturbate and bam! You're evil and must be smited by YHWH.
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>>22028729
Hail Gremory!
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>>22028729
Bumping with another picture of the barbaric practice.
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>>22028786
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Best demon, coming through. All other demons can't compete.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FuYzzatydT0
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>>22028729
Based Gremory!
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>>22028842
Naw son...
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>>22028881
Would this face lie to you?

Nice almost quads.
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You faggots make me laugh desu.
You can’t say one is better than the other when they’re each made for their specific purpose. They’re all fragments of the same entity.
They’re all just energies with their own personalities and purpose.
Every goetic spirit has a corresponding angel with an opposing energy as above, so below. It also applies here. They’re just energies that are bound inside of all of us. Each an extension of ourselves that we can call out to help guide us on our spiritual journey.
They’re not evil demons in hell awaiting your calls to them.
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>>22028914
>demons are just energies that are bound inside of all of us puny pathetic human mortals
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>>22028927
Solomon bound them in our pineal gland
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>>22028927
>>22028936

The temple of Solomon is the pineal gland.
Have you not ever spoken with any of these entities or are you just too dumb to understand?
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>>22028747
What's so based about Gremory?
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>>22028826
Is that Imperial Arts' setup?
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>>22028948
>The temple of Solomon is the pineal gland.
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>>22028948
You do realize that demons lie all the time, right?
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>>22029003
Can you provide specific instances or anecdotes?
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>>22028949
Gremory can let you fuck girls like this
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>>22028914
Kys
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>>22029003

Suppose the angels from the Shem Harmephorash do as well?
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>>22029017
So can Sitri
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>>22029027
Shem HaMephorash
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>>22029017
No thanks.
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>>22029031
True but Gremory can sustain it longer even though not indefinitely. Can give solid answers about secrets of the past. She is also breathtakingly beautiful when she appears in visible form. You will never get it out of your head...
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>>22029054
Wasn't a request. Neck yourself like an obedient little worthless faggot.
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>>22029012
I've got an anecdote or two I can share, but before that I will say this.

It's important to note that demons are completely self interested. This means that everything they do is to better their own influence, power and political standing with both their brethren and among humans (to a much, much, muuuch lesser extent). This isn't to say that they're all uncaring and despise humanity, but they have to have a reason to care about specific humans. To them the bulk of humanity is aligned with YHWH and his minions who historically have been at odds with them. Humans haven't been much better in more recent times (ie the past few thousand years), so to them they are mostly cretins so they'll have every reason to dislike you just by the nature of your existence. What you need to do is give them reasons not to, which is difficult because it's hard to say which demons respect what from humanity so it gets rather complicated. What I do know most demons do respect of humans is power, influence, strength (mental they don't care how much you can lift) and female virginity. They're "sexist" since they are ancient beings so they go easier on the females considering them the weaker sex, but rather hard on the men.

In saying this and that demons are completely self-interested and involved with their infernal games, with no noble intentions towards humanity, it gives them every reason to lie to them, particularly ones they don't respect, like or know very well. Especially Lucifer, he loves making humans bow before him. My anecdotes will be in my part 2.
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>>22029078
Communicating with them isn’t about what you say, they judge you in your ability to summon them and with the energy you put into the whole ritual. It’s not about what you do, it’s about how you do it and say it. You can’t expect to summon one and threaten them with “do this or I’ll have the angels fuck you up” or whatever. You get back what you give them. It’s all about respect and intent.
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>>22029065
>Neck yourself
Consider suicide.
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>>22029078
Part 2

I should note that not all demons particularly care about their standing with the human world.

As for personal anecdotes, I have many but I have only one that I am willing to share at the moment. One Goetic demon has been rather insistent on playing consistent games with me and lying about the nature of her world which, upon further research and discussing and asking about it with other Goetic demons, I have found to be false. They are at odds and fighting with one another at the moment so it was rather important of me to find information that they didn't spoonfeed to me. I'm being intentionally vague here, I'm not stupid enough to be specific when I've been asked not to. The demonic forces are not to be trifled with.
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>>22029102
I do that, my fine friend. I've had a cordial relationship with one Goetic demon I can trust for several years now which is how I've obtained that sort of information.

Always be careful in your invocation and evocation, and whom you trust. It's similar to interaction with humans.
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>>22029129
I wasn’t talking about you in specific. I was responding to you so others who checked it would see it too.
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>>22029118
Why are you still existing? Gut yourself with a rusty screwdriver.
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>>22029140
Why even respond to such nonsense friend.
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>>22029119
I find most of your part one and two to be spot on. The only part I would somewhat disagree is the idea that they are disengaged from the affairs of humanity. My experiences show they are immensely interested and desire to steer human history in a specific direction.

Are you referring to Astaroth?
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>>22029148
Bad trait in me always compelled to get in the last word lol
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>>22029156
>The only part I would somewhat disagree is the idea that they are disengaged from the affairs of humanity.

Fascinating. Might I ask why you think such a thing? I operate from a growth mindset so I'm always open to being proven wrong. There is a potential that I have been steered wrong by them in my opinion.

And yes, you've hit the nail one the head. I have no reason not to name her, we're not exactly on friendly terms.
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>>22029138
Ah, I see. You have very good information and advice. I dislike torture and threats on any entity, corporeal or incorporeal alike unless it's what they deserve.
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>>22029197
They seem to be trying to prove a point. Win a disagreement about humanity. What ever they want for us, sure I am skeptical that it's for our benefit but my workings with the handful of Goetics that I do have a common over arching theme.

Know thyself. Ascend. Strive for super human for a lack of a better term abilities. Serve no higher masters. Continue technology.

What's the end game I don't know? Some topics they can be down right loquacious...others quite terse.

Don't worry she terrifies me although she does call...I haven't the nerve.
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>>22028729
>>22026591
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https://youtu.be/188oWDEAQLE
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>>22029268
??????
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>>22029250
How interesting, I'll have to look into your points and see where my research and questions lie. Do you have any inclination, or educated guess on what their endgame for our species could be?

Loquacious or terse, what I've learned from every political election is that a lot of words can be spoken but nothing of value ever conveyed. It would be difficult to discern what their true intentions are.
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>>22028842
My nibba
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>>22029510
Got personal experiences to share nibba?
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Big shaq
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>>22029570
No that anon would piss himself if he actually ever saw him.
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>>22029621
hes not that scary if your a grill
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>>22029665
But he is a dude so...
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What's so scary about these demons? Most spirits that appeared to me and claimed to have a goetic name looked human to me. Either the spirits are larping or choose to have very different appearances depending on the person.
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>>22029683
Name the ones you saw and we can see if it sounds right
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>>22029701
The two I saw that weren't human were Lucifer and Amaymon. Both appeared to me as robotic humanoids. Amaymon didn't look very scary but Lucifer (the only scary demon I've seen) was horrifying, having claws, sharp teeth, insect lensed eyes with snake puils, and his upper body (which was usually covered in a blue cloak) looked like a human ribcage but made out of metal.

Asmodeus and his "sister" whose name I could not extract but heavily suspect is jezebel both looked like Irish young adults with blue eyes, black hair, and very pale skin. They both had blue Megamanish armor they could wear.

Marbas looked much like the previous too but taller. He was very skilled in creating biological viruses and technology. He had a black mechanical suit he would usually use to move around and it looked like a giant black knight, and in its gauntlet were many powerful weapons like a machine gun and an extremely powerful flamethrower. He could also make tentacles with claws come out of the back of his suit.

Those are all the ones who I identified the demonic names of. There were many others but I haven't found out their names yet.
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>>22029745
You must play a lot of video games
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>>22029816
I used to. They look more like their own thing though. And some of their names I got before I even knew it was the name of a demon. Also they look like anime characters, not vidya characters to me. My childhood did consist of lots of vidya, anime, and Bible reading. Maybe that set up my neural wiring for demons to effectively communicate with me and dance and put on plays for me.
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>>22028914
>Anon that actually knows about this stuff
>Call him a larper and posts about mainstream ideas of magic.
>Mfw
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>>22029683
>very different appearances depending on the person.
Calling a demon is a lot more like making a contract than whatever you might imagine goes on, so yeah just like you can change clothes, they can change appearance.
Butt
You don't see them with your two normal eyes, you percieve them with the third since they are not actually in this plane, just like your third eye.
An untrained occultist can deform the visions of his third eye with his imagination.
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>>22029854
Are you saying they look like humans to the skilled and monsters to the unskilled or the other way around?
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>>22029860
I'm saying you should get some practice with visualization before trying to make out their appearance.
Also some of these can change form, so yeah..
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>>22028914
That's all psychobabble horseshit thanks to Crowley's imagination that everything is psychology (since that was the cool thing a hundred years ago).
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>>22029908
Absolutely. Thats a total crock
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>>22029060
How can I talk to gremory without fucking up?
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>>22029745
Ea koetting is that you lol?
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>>22030011
Be a gentleman. Old world manners. No matter who she procures for you to fuck, stay emotionally devoted to Gremory.
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>>22030033
Thank you but I also want to know how is the correct way to summon her. I tried with her sigil (no circles) and a candle and chanting her enn and dont feel like I got anywhere close.
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>>22030013
Literally who?
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>>22030070
Really? Even if you don't like him any serious Occultists know about him.
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>>22030050
Fast for three days

Do Bornless One ritual prior

Burn orange candles

Add a good deal of veneration as you evoke

The more prominent Venus is at the time the more effective

The fuller the Moon the better

Lay out marigolds and zinnias around the ritual area

The Enn is useful but must be done with passion not robotic.
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>>22029880
Good advice...
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Bump
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Anyone else in this thread a demon soul?

Share experiences, please.
Not larping, I'm looking for common ground.
I can share my own experiences if you want.

Also lots of thanks and love to my bro Paimon, for looking out for me.
I appreciate him so much <3
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>>22029844
I'd say that's effected how you perceive them. Do they come out fuzzy or clear?
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>>22028914
>They’re all fragments of the same entity.
Reminder to everyone that Advaita cultists like this need to literally be burned alive one day.
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None of you virgins ever summoned a Gremory or whatever and certainly will die virgins.
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>>22028729
Is demonaltry work stronger that normal love spells? I’m thinking about paying a goetic witch I know to cast one. Any suggestions / warnings I should hear first?
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>>22030562
It' not like she could help the incels in this thread anyway. Some people are too far gone imo
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What's Gremorys personality like?
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>>22030614
There's always a sacrifice even if you're not aware of it right away
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>>22030614
Don't mess with demons. They hate humans with a passion that can't be reasoned with.
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>>22030095
Thank you anon
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>>22030614
It's much stronger than an ordinary love spell if done successively. However making her love you would subvert her free will so much that it would not be a wise course of action. It would backfire on you. Perhaps woo her in the normal way first.
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>>22031016
They're not Saturday morning cartoon villains anon.
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>>22030522
If he was your so called bro...you would know to call him King Paimon
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>>22030562
Kindly Kys. Low quality bait faggot.
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>>22031027
This is correct. Gremory cannot sustain the effect forever. Eventually the person will regain control. Depending in how much they actually disliked you things can start to go really bad at the end if you drag it out too long. Use Gremory for pump and dump situations...not for some forever love fantasy.
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>>22031188
Based Ozymandias lol
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>>22030522
>Demon soul

Kek
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>>22031260
Lolz
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>>22031208
It's not even just that. Subverting someone's free will to that extent does have eternal ramifications on the immortal soul.
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>>22031432
All men manipulate and subvert to get pussy. Don't be such a Boy Scout.
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>>22031462
The subversion of free will to such a long extent or even a short extent do have ramifications. I do not make the laws anon I am only a messenger.
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>>22030523
Clear
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>>22031526
Who made that law? Genuinely curious
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>>22031530
Alright then. Your visualization could use work but it could be that the entities are conveying themselves in ways in which you can understand in your human mind. For example, I have witnessed demonic battles with swords but obviously the battles involved more than simple medieval weapons. It is a way for my brain to understand what is going on s8nce a lot of their realm is beyond human comprehension.
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>>22031788
Makes sense.
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>>22031689
It's a divine law that is very ancient and woven into the fabric of our reality. If I'd have to guess who it would be the being behind the creative spark and no, not YWHW he came much later and took credit for work he had no part in.
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>>22028948
Dude don't try to educate them, what you're talking about is correct but sadly only a few will see it as such.
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>>22029908
Crowley actually subscribed to the spirit model. He used the psych model both because it was early in his career (as his beliefs would go on to change) and because it's a more "beginner friendly" approach. If you had done any significant amount of reading you would know this.
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>>22031856
>what you're talking about is correct
how do you know
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>>22030013
Dude he shills the ever living fuck out of this board. It's one of the only places he's likely to be taken seriously by "occultists". Also been a lot of VK Jehannum shilling lately.
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>>22029017
>let you
what did he mean by this
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>>22030011
Follow the instructions in the Goetia.
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>>22031899
Kek. VK is a clown on meth
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>>22031894
The entire Solomon approach is wrong
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>>22031931
i suspected as much
any other input you'd like to share?
i give you this nice synth as offering
www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8n_FpI7nYU
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>>22031931
What is your evidence? How many times have you use that method before deciding it wasn't "right"?
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>>22031927
>VK
>EA
Both 2 initials
>Both like meth
>both could be Carnies
2 peas in a pod full of speed
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>>22031856
>>22028948
Samefag
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>>22032057
Ouch!
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>>22028850
Based negro practitioner.
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>>22029017
hiro can put her on the bottom right on the next Halloween
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>>22029683
>choose to have very different appearances depending on the person.
Correct think of them as Chaotic Energy (Pure Potential) they are formless and use a "Mask" for us to feel comfortable or show up in whatever form they see fit.
Example: Astaroth (AKA Ishtar) is described as being a beautiful woman, far more beautiful and radiant than any earthly woman, but shows up as a male to others. One practitioner who summoned Astoroth said she appeared composed of earth with various insects crawling through her.
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>>22032161
What would she be trying to convey with that image?
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>>22031208
What about King Beleth?
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>>22032184
Good question, the practitioner said despite her grotesque look she was very warm and motherly. I guess The Queen of Heaven wanted to shake up expectations. He did various tests to make sure he was not being decieved by another nonlocal spirit to any entity he contacted and it was legit. Can't really comment further since he is now reclusive, he was very outspoken and knowledgeable in The Occult and he all of a sudden wanted to be left alone. He deleted his whole online footprint after he thought he couldn't help anybody else or even himself, he felt foolish because he said that his own personal journey would not help others personal journeys and now he's unreachable, I guess he wanted to focus more on his personal journey and family. Out of respect I will not say his monickers, but will say I wish him well and respect his decision.
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>>22032224
Astaroth is a degraded "form" of Ishtar, not Ishtar proper.
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This handsome Duke brought me and my potential wife together.
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>>22032588
How did you communicate with him?
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>>22032588
And here's a picture of my SO's ritual that she did before she met me
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>>22032593
see
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>>22032588
enjoy your potential alimony
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>>22032588
Story?
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>>22032511
Hmm curious.
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>>22032611
Well, I began dating her, then we fell quickly in love. Afterwards she told me she spoke with Duke Sallos in order to find a man to love her.
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>>22032641
That's it's? More details.

And more details on the ritual.
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>>22032747
Say please.
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>>22032831
Pweese?????
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>>22032831
Please tell us the details.
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>>22028729
Anyone got info on Asmodeus?
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>>22031193
If you aren't human in spirit you should treat demons as your equals
When they are incarnated even as a fractal it could be you who helps them
But if you're human in spirit and never ascended or a young soul in general then that level of respect is probably only polite

Via readings throughout the years I've been informed he's looked after me and we probably go way back
Same with another deity figure but she isn't Goetic far as I know

Since confirming my relationship and summoning him he's been helping me focus and my head feels much clearer
I can confirm

I'd just like to speak to other demon souled individuals but that's something tricky I guess
Since there's no way to prove it's just a matter of knowing and this board is full of LARPers.
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>>22029250
Why is Astaroth so terrifying?
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>>22032603
Zing!
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>>22033448
Wht is a demon souled individual?
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>>22033717
jews
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>>22033717
Someone whose soul is demon aligned
An old soul specifically since it takes lifetimes for ones soul to gain that much power to begin with
At least I think so
Maybe we just are what we are

>>22033725
Jews are yvwh's lap dogs lol
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>>22033769
So (((they))) want you to believe. Jews are buy and large too gay to be on the same team as God.
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>>22033769
What do you mean by demon aligned? Is it something worked for in multiple lives or is it if a demon picks you to be aligned with?
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>>22033845
I suppose it could be either/or.

Willpower accounts for a lot I think.
When your soul acquires enough power over time and with willpower in each lifetime you incarnate into you'll remember your alignment subconsciously at least.

I think some souls are demons by default or angelic by default and perhaps that's just how they've always been.
Others ascend that way, because its what they want, others with potential are picked up by either side.

Alignment is just about picking a side.
A lot of powerful souls are probably neither especially when it comes to pagan spirits (and I use that term broadly) but ywvh is such an asshole I don't imagine many others like him.
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>>22031027
I woo’d her first. Getting an ex back, she already became obsessed and then shut down out of fear of getting too serious (bad daddy issues)
My recklessness is possibly just my ego wanting to feel that inflated again but I do like this girl and believe there’s something there. Just no contact now, I wanna build a new bridge and I’m seeking whatever I can for it.
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>>22031208
I do really wish to meet Gremory, I saw her sigil as a kid and have never forgot it.
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>>22033717
What he is saying is he likes people to bang bang bang...pull his devil trigger.
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>>22034104
Put in the work anon...
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I got so fucking OP from demons that i became like a paranoid darth plagueis motherfucker that's always paranoid I'll be cut off from my privileges
I should be embarrassed for admitting this but in a way I'm not because then again, I've done some amazing shit with magick that most magicians wouldnt even believe possible
Fuck, this shits driving me crazy. It'll pass though
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>>22033481
She is very ancient and very inscrutable...
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>>22030614
It will dominate her free will, so make sure you don't respect her and she is a piece of shit that deserves to be controlled. I have no moral opposition to love spells, my line of reasoning is, only do it to people that deserves to be your bitch. Like someone who wronged you.
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>>22034126
What kinda magick did the demons help you get?
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Just gonna leave this here. Use it to contemplate the names/natures of Goetic beings, to connect with them more intimately.

Reality Programming Language Key:
Aleph(A)=Life; Beth(B)=Framework; Gimel(G)=Transfer; Daleth(D)=Transport; Heh(E,H)=Window; Vau(O,U,V,W)=Fixate; Zain(Z)=Balance; Cheth(Ch)=Protect; Teth(T)=Guide; Yod(I,J,Y)=Energy; Kaph(K)=Release; Lamed(L)=Nature; Mem(M)=Flow; Nun(N)=Generate; Samekh(S)=Support; Ayin(Au,Ay,Ng,O)=Sense; Peh(F,P,Ph)=Transmit; Tzaddi(Tz,X)=Hook; Qoph(Q)=Sub-Process; Resh(R)=Process; Shin(Sh)=Purity; Tau(T,Th)=Form

BAEL
Framework Life Window Nature

PAIMON
Transmit Life Energy Flow Sense Generate

NABERIUS
Generate Life Framework Window Process Energy Fixate Support

BELIAL
Framework Window Nature Energy Life Nature
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>>22034158
Erm what?
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>>22034141
Mostly the ability to dominate minds. They offered everything to me though, all powers of the goetia are just beyond my grasp. It's infuriating that my fucking brain won't shut up with it's anxieties
My problem is that my psychic powers aren't yet reliable, so I can't just ask the demons the things I need to know
Might need to really sit down with some demons that give psychic abilities. I just have so many things to do, and the magick keeps sucking me in and making me neglect my life.
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>>22034158
You're a faggot
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>>22034199
Realize I'm bitching here. Just venting. It's not always easy. They can test you, or your own mind tests you. Getting a taste of godhood was a lot for my human mind to process but I know this is the right path. Demons are amazing, they are the best thing I've ever known
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>>22034122
How complicated does it have to be? What’s your method? Is creating the physical temple an important requirement?
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>>22034245
they really are. their love is so strong theyll break you in to a thousand pieces and build you back up stronger than ever. best frens forever. <3
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>>22034137
I believe that if we want something it’s very easy to convince ourselves why we aren’t evil in pursuing it. She is self destructive in both immidiate self harm and bigger picture ways like drinking with an already severely impaired liver and such. So I’m thinking she’s honestly probably in better care under my spell but I’m very likely naive.
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>>22034245
How do you know that they're not fucking with you?
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>>22034286
How do you know anyone’s not fucking with you? There’s always that possibility. They most stereotypical angel figure could hold a pitchfork in the end.
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>>22034137
To add to this love spells are a weapon. Use it wisely like any other weapon. I think it's totally understandable to use it as self defence or to use it on a piece of shit you want to be your guinea pig
Remember a straight person can use it on the same gender as a mean's of self defence or control. It's necessarily not about being a creeper that just wants to bust a nut
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>>22034286
Maybe they are being tricksters. Traditionally when a spirit guide does this it can mean they have good intentions. They never hurt me though, it's not like they are making me miserable. I'm still better off mentally then I ever was before them, I just don't want to go back to that
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>>22034310
So you don't. Sounds as if you are being played and toyed with. Good job faggot.
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>>22034324
I don't think any black magician ever denies they can be tricksters. That's traditional knowledge
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Hey i need someone knowledgeable to help a brother out. I reaaallly fucked up with Marbas, this was maybe 2 years ago, and 1 year ago I ended most of the fucking around with me that resulted from my bad ritual. But still I can feel him around once in a while. Will other goetics take this into account when I deal with them. I feel like im in the dark, there is so much weird spiritual stuff happening in my life right now. Songs I think about coming on the radio and other strange signs are signaling me, as well as dreams that obviously have deep meaning. Anyways my life is super fucked from the physical realm all the way up and down, but I'm on my way to a better life. Anyone have anything they can toss out there to help me out.
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>>22034282
I understand this desire I've saved my girlfriend from a similar fate but it is not worth risking your souls fate. Perhaps ask for something less invasive from the appropriate demon.
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>>22034322
They're ancient they can play a long game. I would advise caution.
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>>22034282
Do what you want man. A black magician shapes the world to his true will. You just have to be certain what you are doing is justified for best results
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>>22034344
Ask Marbles for a clear sign of what to do so you guys cool, and be sincere. Sometimes they take it in to account, sometimes no. Sacrifice that demon an m&m, he fuckin loves them.
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>>22034158
From whose rear end was this whimsical nonsense excreted?
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>>22034356
Challenge accepted, I could use the excitement
I love ancient dangerous spirits Waku waku
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>>22034388
Then you're a fool. You will be consumed by them in totality.
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>>22034417
Haha, I'm not worried.
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>>22034378
I did, i grew out my beard for almost 2 months to balance myself with him. But its not just that, there is so much stuff in my life and I don't know how to interpret or process it. How to I find guidance that will not lead me astray.
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>>22034456
>2 months to grow a beard

Just shave that's not a real beard.
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>>22034259
You have got to get to the essence of what the Lesser Key of Solomon is trying to convey. You need both precision in your ritual but also sincere emotion. Gremory is a real ancient and powerful being. You need to come to her not with threats but veneration.

Do the circle. The Bornless One ritual. Have her sigil. Chant her end and give yourself to her. Be unabashed. Don't hold back.

Gremory wants your devotion. They will not let you treat them as some candy dispensing machine of sorts.

Get to know her.
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>>22034456
Meditate half hour or hour a day, yoga or qigong a half hour or hour a day, and if you're inclined, ask a spirit you trust to guide you in to being cool like them. I'm partial to Lilith, but be warned that She is ruthless and will not hesitate to push you to and past your limits. Have faith in yourself and have faith in those you work with. You might wanna give Works of Darkness by Koetting a read, too.
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>>22034347
>>22034360
A witch who does lots with the goetia offered to do the spell for me, does it work when it’s another person? I suppose my soul is still on the line but atm I feel confident in my goals
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>>22034489
To much demands for a random poster
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Tell me anons:
What's your first memory being fascinated by magic and demons?
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>>22034503
Grew up terrified of them raised in a church that obsessed over exorcisms. Got an exorcism for OCD at age 11. Once I made the disconnect between my issues and spirits I just romanticized all elements of the spirit and became intrigued.
I’m sure this question is probably more aimed at anons with more experience though
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>>22034543
Your answer was good enough.
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>>22034503
Looking at my Dad's album covers as a kid. Led Zepplin Sabbath Uriah Heep Demons and Wizards particularly...
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>>22031891
>If you had done any significant amount of reading you would know this.
fuck off, you cunt. I've read everything he ever put out.
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>>22034560
Please don’t get a divorce guys, I don’t wanna choose which parent to have Christmas with. :(
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>>22034503
I was raised atheist and it never sit right with me. Atheists were cringe as fuck and felt pretentious to me, but christianity was obviously total bullshit. I was in search of something to believe. Occultism offered me experiments to figure out the nature of the universe
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>>22034560
how was white stains?
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>>22034600
Hmm first feeling though was reading Diane Vera's website. For the first time I actually felt something. It was a tingle up my spine and a feeling like I was being watched
Christianity NEVEr did anything like that for me. I was always numb to it
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>>22034603
You jerk off all the time you tell me faggot
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>>22034560
Ohhh ok. That must be why you know he subscribed to the spirit model for the vast majority of his occult career.

While I’ve got you here, as someone who has read all Crowley’s works, please remind me what major event in his world travels played a major role in his Crossing the Abyss, despite the fact that it happened years before he “officially” laid claim to having done so?
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>>22034543
That's actually kinda fascinating anon
When I was dragged to church as a kid I would sit there praising Satan in my head because everyone claimed this preacher could read the hearts or people or that "god" spoke it to him

>>22034551
Huh that's surprisingly tame
But not bad

>>22034600
>>22034611
So you'd say that the occult offers you freedom?
I always felt a tingle in my early days of researching this.
It always felt right.
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>>22034104
What was the circumstance of you first seeing it and learning about Gremory? Perhaps she called you as she called to me?
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>>22034614
>he can’t tell anons apart
>anyone who questions him must be the same person, who causes excess chafing to occur within his sloppy sore-spread sphincter

Stay classy
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>>22034740
Take your meds or Kys. I know which one I prefer you do...
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>>22034654
Exactly it offers me power, that's why I got super into it recently. Just so sick of being a slave, the demons offer liberation from that, how can they be bad?
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>>22034752
It’s ok anon. Enjoying having your rectum ravaged no longer classifies you as ill, according to the DSM... it’s nothing to be ashamed of!
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>>22034764
Who do you work with that has freed you from your slavery? Sincere question.
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>>22034752
I’m not invested in the fight but this image is beautiful somehow so thank you anon
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>>22034614
haha, knew that would piss you off. cheers retard.
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>>22034782
That was a wonderful Christmas for me. Gi Joes some He Man toys and Return of the Jedi. I was in action figure heaven.
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>>22034789
You aren't all there are you anon? Now I am starting to feel like I'm picking on a retard. No sport in that...
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>>22034803
good, glad you're fucking off then.
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>>22034822
You so crazy. I think your gonna have my baby
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>>22034049
>demon aligned
This is shit talk. He's a Christian
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>>22034199
Spoken like a true idiot
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>>22028842
>ASMODAY

>>22028729
Goetia is dumb. God the Father, Christ, and the Holy Spirit are the only persons worthy of praise.
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>>22034456
Guys this is a larp stop engaging with it
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>>22030522
Nah I’m a Bloodborne.
Anyway demon consorts need to be gassed.
Lord Krishna smite you criminal scum
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>>22035292
Nah fuck christians I hate them
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>demonborn
>bloodborn
>what, no dragonborn or will they be along layer?
I see what was once a promising thread has turned to larp. So sad
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Hail Astaroth!
Hail Ishtar!
Hail Coatlicue!
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>>22035784
Hail Hitler!
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>>22035831
Him too
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my ex summoned a demon to try and be with me i found the journals and i still think of him over a year later

a lot of bad things happened -
he didnt respect or even say thank you to sitri and just blew him off
i got physical repercussions after the split
i was completely someone else in that relationship like...obsessive
we lived together from day one to the last day
was just weird like..

how do i break ties and also maybe stop getting the repercussions for his actions?

i know sitri likes to fuck with women tho
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Without asking Flauros gave me black wings on my astral form but no claws. Still a nice gift. Before I knew about him he'd show up in the ways I'd later read about, which is how I even came to know about goetic spirits. I'd like to express gratitude, what do you think would be a suitable gift?
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>>22035861
And I know you're thinking black wings, edgy corny very middle school phase, but I'm comparatively normal married mother of three (as normal as you could get being on 4chan at this age...) I just want to connect a little deeper with this fella as he's been around for so long it seems
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>>22035854
Asmodeus is pretty good at breaking up relationships and feelings like you are experiencing.
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>>22035362
Your not the boss of us!
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>>22036377
I in fact am the boss of you lot so cut out the bullshit children
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>>22035884
Well Its an interesting thing actually. King Diamond had some lyrics something like black wings...sprouting on my naked back...

I feel relatively sure he worked with the Goetia. Flauros never has interested me much just being honest but you likely had a valid experience that I have at least heard alluded to before. Maybe a Danzig one too?
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>>22036452
Nope
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>>22036468
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UegynJST_Eg

had to.

>>22036452
Hi boss where is my paycheck?
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>>22030522
I don't know about a demon soul, but Beleth followed me for years and I had visions of really horrible rapey shit during that time

Ech.
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>>22036549
Choice!
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>>22036468
I've heard OF those groups but never bothered to listen to it as I'm more of a tom petty person haha
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>>22036692
No shame in that American Girl. Bet your a qt black wings and ał lol
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>>22036659
That's not a paycheck boss.
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>>22036543
Yup.
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>>22036790
Well thats succinct lol
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who should i summon to be more successful in my music career?
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>>22036893
Amdusias
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>>22036893
Or King Paimon
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>>22028912
>>22028729
How do you guys dont get spooked over this shit? You keep your lights in while doing and keep a "holy rifle" near by?
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>>22037004
We arent pussies
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>>22029250
Isnt this basically "DONT BECOME CHRISTIANS"?
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>>22034049
>ywvh is such an asshole
Is he? Why?
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>>22037114
I am curious to know as well?
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>>22037052
It could be viewed through that lens
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>>22037114
He's a pedo usurper
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>>22037004
>genuinely curious
Why would you think that way dude?
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This Earl is one of the best to work with in regards getting shit stolen from you back. Made an impossible porch pirate situation end with me getting everything back along with some additional money.
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>>22036982
Hail King Paimon!
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nu
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>>22037541
Very cool! Rarely hear about him
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>>22037607
Bear heart went on about him for a bit, well until he ran away
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American gurl cutie went silent. Why are girls so uptight about being hit on?
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>>22035345
Asmoday is worthy of a million times more praise then your patheticgod that will not even answer you when called. Whenever a demon is invokedand evoked they actually appear (well most of the time if done correctly) your god doesn't even answer prayers when you plea and beg for assistance.
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>>22037699
Uh, coz ur a lonely neckbeard
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>>22037495
>usurper
Im going to assume that you're talkin about how the took the place of worship from many gods, but he is a god of kingship and war in way so thats just how he is, if the other goda lost is because they're weak
>pedo
Ok, that needs some elaboration, are you talking about the "cut your baby's dick" thing?
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>>22037729
Dude why argue with christcucks? They're dumber than most downsy spastics. And either cant or wont open their pea brained minds
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>>22037756
The Christian & jew god are the same god.
This prick is a nasty piece of work that loves the suffering of children and worshipped by the elite & 1% hence all the pedo rape shit that goes on in hollyweird and within the church
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>>22037004
Legend tells of them being much more frightening and deadly to unsuspecting humans then they actually are. You only have something to worry about if you get on someone's bad side which is rather difficult to achieve.
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>>22037778
Also propaganda from christians and other occultists that want to keep the info from you
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>>22037729
Debatable
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>>22037743
Nope.
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>>22037802
>Debatable
Yet you offer nothing for this debate
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>>22037512
1- I admit that i have fear/dont trust things wich i dont know how it works or its true nature
2-Demons sound/are unstable, deceitful, and evoke aspects of human nature that are overall unpleasent. Making deals or even talking to them in general just sounds like tying yourself the noose of the rope that will later hange you. Like, what prevents then from taking your soul aa their property after you die?
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>>22037810
Dude you're a creepy rapist
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>>22037776
Wasn't there a tribe that worshipped a demon/old god that demanded the sacrifice of children, wich the jew god demanded the total annihilation because of those acts? Not trying to preach but that sounds the complete opposite of a kid hating deity
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>>22037815
Ok. Point makes sense, point 2 is very Christian mindset. These entities were labelled evil & "demon" by Christian monks whose purpose was to document other cultures. Everything outside the bible is evil to them, especially hundreds of years ago.
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>>22037831
Yup molok. His cult infiltrated the Jew & Christians cults. Eventually cultists make it to position of power then comes more cultists etc etc eventually it's a cult of molok (moloch) with dumb brainlet Jews & bible thumpers
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>>22037821
Being twelve must get boring huh?
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>>22037880
....wow
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>>22037894
Yeah...sorry grow up dude
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>>22037757
It is fun to taunt them.
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>>22037894
>>22037984
Get a room.
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>>22038033
>sexy mode engaged
We have this one
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>>22038067
Noice
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>>22038030
Actually guilty of that myself
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>>22038235
Yet...your Mom let me cum inside her.

How odd.
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>>22028729
Does anyone have any personal experiences with any Goetic demons? I'll share mine if you share yours.
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>>22037120
For starters you can look at pic related. For such a supposedly "good" and "enlightened" god he has been responsible for a great amount of trauma, death, disease, and justification for war and genocide.

Consider what happened to the aboriginals in North America and Australia and why. And the slave trade in Africa and the Middle East and why this occurred. If he truly cared about all living creatures equally, why would his followers use his words to justify these atrocities? And why would he tell his followers to help the poor and downtrodden but only on the condition that they convert to his ridiculous religion? This still happens with missionary work to this day. Want this food? Convert heathen!

It can be argued that it's humans interpreting his words, but if this is truly so then why has he allowed these practices to continue? Why has it been humans saying that it should not be so? If he is truly good wouldn't he send down another son, or even appear before humans on television, or the royals in earlier times and tell them what he wants? It's because he was okay with all of it and it is justified in his stupid bible. He's also a huge stickler on his rules, and his angels come across as apathetic and indifferent to humanity. They expect to be revered and they only want humans to win the war. And don't even get me started on the subjugation of women. Just look at Muslim women they look like they're wearing Halloween ghost costumes.
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>>22038551
>this guy
He knows
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>>22028747
Hail!
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>>22028842
Hail!
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>>22034097
Perhaps ask a demon for better luck in regards to her.
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>>22028786
>>22028826

If ONE more human summons me with these I swear to Lucifer....
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>>22038984
My nigga!
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>>22035784
I prefer the hero Gilgamesh. Which probably puts us at odds with each other considering his relationship with Ishtar. Fucking bitch got his best friend killed.
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>>22039323
Story?
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>>22039388
You know the Goetia, but not the Gilgamesh epic?
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>>22039388
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Epic-of-Gilgamesh

This has a summary.
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>>22039493
TLDR
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>>22028729
bamp
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>>22029078
>Especially Lucifer, he loves making humans bow before him


AYY LMFAO implying you can invoke HIM kek
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>>22040056
I can't. He does what he wants and goes where he wants.
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>>22040056
There’s always Lucifuge Rofocale
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>>22040366
What's his deal? I don't know much about him.
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>>22039544
I can tell you aren't very well read. If you don't know the Gilgamesh epic you are probably just a shit for brains faggot larper anyway.
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>>22040429
TLDR
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Does anyone have an accurate demonic hierarchy? If so share.
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>>22037699
Sorry I have kids anon they make for busy days! I think ill just offer him some spiced rum and sunflowers
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>>22040429
Kek. Atleast he's not so far up his on arse
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>>22040983
Don't explain yourself to the Internet "nice guy"
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>>22040983
No worries! I think that would enhance the ritual for sure.

I know it may not be your usual cup of tea but I find playing certain music like the Doors or Santana lightly in the back ground to also be helpful.

I was just having fun calling you QT lol didn't mean any offense.
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>>22041156
Gut yourself you jealous dork.
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>>22041687
>have waifu
>have spawn
>own house
>own cat
>over £60k household income
Yup I'm real jealous of an internet virgins attempt at hitting on someone.

Try not to strain yourself with those god tier come backs
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>>22040429
Go fuck off you pretentious faggot
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>>22041742
You were starting to seem semi ok until the cat part! Based dudes own a loyal doggo. Also pics or it didn't happen.
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>>22041746
Kek I do believe you're actually retarded, how did you escape your handler?
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>>22041769
Don't be so Catty...oh right you can't help it
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>>22041798
Meeeeeeeoooooooow
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>>22037729
Asmoday more like Asmogay
God doesn’t need to answer your dogshit materialistic demands because he isn’t looking to expand his influence over the mortal plane.

He is the Tri-Loka Vijayeta (conqueror of all 3 planes)

These pesky demons answer your demands only because they’re desperate for any sort of power and influence over these domains
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>>22041846
Gremory just helps because she likes me.
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>>22041853
Yeah sure she does.
Who could not like a likeable person like you ?
Fucking naive.
People in the mortal plane didn’t like you before you summoned the Demon
What makes you think the Demons do ?
They probably have higher standards than people here don’t you think ?
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I want to make a specific person fall in love with me, I'm planning to ask Sallos about it tonight. Any advice? I still don't understand why would demons provide help/services. Is it going to bite me in the ass later?
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>>22041865
Your such a bitter person anon. Has life been that bad for you? Mommy loves you!
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I don't need someone to love me nor want to be rich. I just want to be happy. Can a demon help me not feel down all the time?
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>>22041866
Only time I've ever heard of them "biting you in the ass" is online so they're probably either larpers, bible thumpers or you've somehow pissed them off (possible due to pestering them constantly for petty things).

On another note, how many of you have worked with them and how much experience did you have before starting?
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>>22041955
Try a counsellor first.
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>>22041919
Agreed, such a sour puss. Projecting his own inadequacies on others
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>>22041866
What offerings are you giving him in return?
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Hail Shax! Hail Zepar!
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>>22042134
Hail Bune!
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>>22042172
Hail bane!
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>>22042182
Yesh, hail me!
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>>22042134
Shax?? Never hear about him!
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>>22042050
Right? Debbie Downer lol
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Cont.
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>>22042274
>Debbie downer
Lol never heard that one before
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>>22042295
Lol I know who he is, I was saying nobody ever discusses working with Shax silly goose
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>>22042302
Ah gotcha, sorry for the misunderstanding
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>>22042310
No worries thanks for sharing info bro!
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>>22040366
Don't mess with Lucifuge Rofocale.
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>>22039173
how would you prefer being summoned
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>>22038503
i got horny once
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>>22042388
Hey, no prob anon!
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>>22042268
>>22042134
What's the deal with shax?
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>>22042411
>I got horny once
And stated a virgin forever, thanks for sharing
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Based American gurl. I'm going to make a part two of this thread soon. This one is getting tapped out. Would you join me?
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>>22042421
yw
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>>22041919

Nothing personnel kids
It’s just some tough love for devil worshipping lads

>>22042050
>no u
Is this the best response you have ?>>22042274
Congratulations on your successful circlejerk
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>>22042534
Haven't you killed yourself yet good gosh you can't even do that right??
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>>22042552
Failures gotta fail
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>>22042534
>part 1
No dude you were trying to be a twats
>part 2
That's actually what most humans do, you know get together/get along. I can see how you have trouble understanding that seeing as you've made it painfully clear that you're some reject incapable of basic human interaction. Or you're just the standard keyboard warrior, I bet you just mumble away starring at the floor when someone tries to talk to you irl
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>>22042552
Why are you so mad ?
>>22042585
Gotta be harsh to devil worshippers.
As for how I’m IRL you’d never know because people like me don’t hang around cultists
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>>22042600
>people like me don’t hang around cultists
I'll fix your autocorrect
>people like me don’t have any friends
There we go, now you look like less of an idiot, you're welcome
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>>22029078
>female virginity
Explain please. Why would Demons care about this and what value is it to them?

Also, how does this fit in with many Demons procuring pussy to those who ask?
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>>22042621
Based anon helping the hostile Neet lol
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>>22042600
enjoy sucking YHVH's cock sweetie :)
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>>22042663
They need it more than most
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>>22042677
Pretty sure you're the anon I was bickering back and forth with above, I think I like your style
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>>22042621
Whatever floats your boat lads
I’ll have you know I have my own band of Holy Crusaders who are my friends and brothers in arms and will purge you on the Day of Reckoning
>>22042677
Is that what you call God ?
Just say God,easier to type
And no,if I do have enough Good Karma then I’ll have the opportunity to go into Indra Loka and redeem my good deeds and get all the pleasures of the flesh manifold times your demon gives you,of course I am beyond such temptation and will forego that to be with Lord Krishna for all of eternity
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>>22042745
Lol a Pajeet dot head. Explains a lot. Go poo in the loo.
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>>22042745
Top larp
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>>22042835
Superpower by 2020 my friend
>>22042926
Not larping but it’s a thin line anyway
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New thread started since this one is almost over
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>>22042745
>band of Holy Crusaders
Can you expand on this? Also further details on your second point?
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>>22042658
Female virginity and purity has been a holy and sacred thing since ancient times in ancient times. A very easy example would be the virgin Mary being so revered because of her virginity and as such is the embodiment of the sacred feminine. She holds feminine virtues such as self-sacrifice, kindness, nurturing, mothering etc. Other such examples include Athena, Hestia, Artemis, Mut, Saibini, etc. Women have been protected and preserved from the touch of lecherous fiends by the men whose job it was to protect them. The eternal entities that have found/ discovered these virgins desired to protect them as well as the mortal men against the cruelty of the world and the men that wished to corrupt their innocence.

Demons care about preserving it and protecting it since they are not the cartoon villains that Christianity has portrayed them to be, rather eternal entities that are on the other side of YHWH and his minions. And unlike YHWH if a female virgin catches the interest of the demonic world she will be well protected from any that would harm her or even desire to harm her.

You'd be hard pressed to find a demon that would procure a human man a pure, female virgin. Whores? Sure, this would be done without a second thought. But a virgin? This would be against the law, and generally frowned upon by eternal society.
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>>22042972
I don’t know what you mean by my second point so next time just quote the part you want me to expand on

The Holy Crusaders are just my friends who are also dedicated in their faith and service to God.
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>>22042979
Yes, but why?

Is it because of some sort of spiritual telegony (which is what I'm inclined to believe)? Is it only physical virginity that is sacred?
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>>22029078
>females
>weaker sex
that's bull - most women are conniving and can fuck your shit up pic related
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>>22029102
>energy you put into the whole ritual. It’s not about what you do,
this must be for evokation
what about invocation?
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>>22041742
Being happy at 60k /yr with two working people in a house is kinda sad anon.



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