Anyone fan of the Pro Skaters series?
Get fucked you old cunt
I enjoyed 1 and 2. Stopped playing the series after that.
I love thps2 the gba version was great when I could see that goddamn screen (had og clear purple gba)
>>6122539The first and third were pretty fun, although I never enjoyed Pro Skater's emphasis on absurd combos and eternal grinds. I've returned to Thrasher far more over the years.
>>6122658Same. Still do a playthrough of 2 every now and then.
>>6122539First 3 were kino, Tony. Thanks man.
THPS3 is the best game in the series bar none
>>6123045For me, it's a tie between 2, 3 and 4. Peak of the franchise for sure.
THPS 1, 2, 3, and Underground are great games. And they're cheap too because they're mis-classified as sports games.
>>6123068why does everyone love to leave out one game?How can you think 1, 2, and 3 are great, then 4 is not great but then Underground it got great again.
>>6123073the way that the story mode is set up in 4 is different and I don't like itI made a conscious choice to skip #4 at the time and was going to be done with the series, but they lured me back in for one last game with THUG. After that I remember seeing project 8 and knowing that the series was more or less done for.
tfw a skate park in a THPS game irl gone for over ten years now. Sad just like the fate of THPS games.
>>6123079If you were able to deal with THUG's story you'll have no problem with 4. I'd say definitely worth checking out if just for the maps alone.
>>6123082which one? I heard even stuff like El Toro has been replaced IRL
>>6123095I bought it for $3 and tried it and hated it just like I knew I would. Then I traded it for SSX tricky which I have no intention of ever playing.
Did anyone play 3 on the 64 lmao
>>6122539>tfw grew up listening to nothing but bangers thanks to these gamesThanks Tony
>>6123115Some of those bands saw upticks in merch sales that they never saw when they were still making new music.
>>6123101lol you could've at least thrown on some cheats to unlock everything and enjoy free skate
I always thought licensed soundtracks are overrated.You're essentially paying for a lazy "various artist" CD with all pre-existing tracks, not even new takes. If I'm going to play the game listening to MTV music, might as well choose my own music to listen to while I play.
>>6123079>>6123101>>6123386Cringe 2: Hypercringe.
>>6123386I can only speak for myself but I was a young kid when these games came out, I didn't know shit about music or how to discover it. It was a different time back then too, you couldn't just go on youtube and listen to any song you want in 3 seconds.
>>6123394What's cringe about >>6123386?I'm not shitting on the game, I'm talking about listening to pre-existing MTV music is redundant and might as well play whatever music I prefer instead.
>>6123395Fair enough. I just think, if I play this game today, why would I want to listen to its licensed soundtrack? That's my point. Not attacking anyone's particular taste btw. If the bands featured on the soundtrack happen to be ones you like a lot enough to listen to while you play the game, good for you. But I always think the "original" part of the OST is important.
>>6123401>if I play this game today, why would I want to listen to its licensed soundtrack?I'm with you on that one, and eventually you get sick of hearing the same songs. These days I mostly play with music off altogether, and just enjoy the atmosphere of the sound effects.
>>6123401>>6123407Holy fucking cringe, batman. The THPS2 soundtrack is lit af. If you can't appreciate it you should probably just stop breathing or go play something else. The soundtrack is the fucking atmosphere of the game. And it's not like these songs have been played to death unless you've done it yourself.
>>6123425everything I hate about 4chan culture: the post. Also cringe.
>>6123431You need to go back.
>>6123425>nooo you can't have a different music taste than min! this game redefines my music taste!get a load of this fagettite.
I'd imagine the soundtrack is so well loved because of Napster being at it's height when 1 and 2 were out. A lot of people went on to discover an entire catalog of new music from randomly downloading other tracks from those groups.
>>6123431He's right though, you can't disassociate the game with the soundtrack.
>>6123464Do you watch your favorite movies with subtitles on while blasting top 40 garbage as well?
>>6123515>movies = gamesfigures.
>>6123523Epicly meme-arrowed. You sure showed everyone how clever you are.
>>6123576You're just mad someone insults your pleb taste.You can turn off the music and leave the sound effects in the game if you want, making you able to play whatever music you want.
AND I DON'T CAAAARE WHERE I GREW UP NO MOOOOOOOORE
>>6123583Based. Nothing like some ITAOTS or Swans while doing sick combos.
The sountrack represented the skate scene of the time. That's the type of music actual skaters were listening to, so they put it in the game.
>>6122539I KNOW I'VE PLAYED THIS GAME BEFORE WHEN PEOPLE WERE STILL REAL
>>61230734 feels like a transitional game. It just doesn't feel as great as the others, but it's surely a great game and much better than say project 8 and everthing that came after.
>>6123791That's how I always felt about 3, funny enough.
i would say who isnt but seeing this tread...also why nobody started the chain yet?HERE I AM..
I like the 3rd one the best I think. Probably because I played it the most growing up. I also really enjoy doing speedruns of THPS1 since the game can easily be 100% completed in less than 20 minutes. Tony hawk 2 annoys me because collecting all the cash can be frustrating. Tony hawk 4 is pretty fun but not as good as the games before it or the game after it. Underground is perfect. American wasteland is a blast. Underground 2 pisses me off because it feels more like a jackass game than tony hawk, still great tho. Project 8 was the last playable one in my opinion. I did not like proving ground when it came out and tony hawk ride made me cry. This is a pic of some of my tony hawk games, I have more for playstations and Xbox. Honestly my favorite game series.
>>6123806Tony hawk 3 was still in the classic tony hawk style of gameplay and it pretty much perfected the style for the the 6th gen of gaming, it has a nice range of great levels and the best secret characters of any of the games. Tony hawk 4 was the transition to the underground games, as it introduced the free roaming instead of the classic 2 minute timed runs, they didnt perfect this new style of game until underground. 4 definitely feels more like a transition imho.
>>6123106Yeah It's not as good as the six gen versions obviously, but still a great example of a classic tony hawk game. And the book end to the N64 library of games in the US. Really pushed the n64 to its limits.
>>6123830Nah, I don't agree. 3 has the same goal structure as 1 and 2, but the actual gameplay is what I consider transitional. It introduced the revert and put a greater emphasis on flatland tricks, both of which were improved and expanded upon with later titles. 4 to me perfected the standard THPS gameplay without adding the off-the-board gimmicks of Underground and later.
I loved playing these multiplayer. Horse and the score attack things were tons of fun. I wasn't really a fan of when they allowed you to keep your combo going anywhere with that wheelie thing though.I would love some sort of remake that included everything from the first three or four games and tons of options to customize things to your liking. Even if it was possible for them to get all the licenses and everything. I'm sure they would totally mess it up somehow though.
dreamcast tony hawk 2 is best tony hawk 2. no need for as remaster.
>>6124745Personally I don't like the reworked graphics and lighting of the DC version. PC version with mods to unlock the FPS is the way to go.
>>6123101Ssx Tricky is a lot of fun, you should play it.
>>6122539back when THPS2 came out, a friend and I would pretend we were grabbing footage for a sponsor video. we would take turns doing tricks off stuff. we would continue to do this until THPS4 before the series tried to change for the worst.
Yes. Spent countless hours in THPS2 trying to discover all the gaps, didnt even consider it was possible to look them up on the internet. Then one day my memory pack died and I lost everything, never played it again after that.
>>6123106yep, runs fantastic in high res mode too
>>6122658>stopped right before 3 easily the best in the series.
>>6123096yeah they fucked el toro up last a saw.
>>6125527>3>The bestlmfao, the absolute ignorance of someone trying to pretend /vr/ era games are the only games around.
THUG2 is the peak, don't even at me nostalgiafags. Don't give a shit about your hatred hard-on for Ham either. Those complaints just show your priorities are in the wrong place when it has an arcade mode brimming with content and controls that aren't archaic bullshit.THUG1 however is bottom-barrel trash.>muh story appeal>garbage pacing and structure for skating game>singular objectives at a time>gimmick shit like vehicles and stealthing
>>6123845>off-the-board gimmicks of UndergroundOh no it's retarded. A tool for combo extension, bail evasion, split second remanuevering instead of tank swiveling. A gimmick, right.
Anyone who likes tony hawk should check out thug pro. It uses thug 2's engine with maps from every game up until thaw. It supports lots of custom content and online play. There's always people to play with on there.
>>6122539>Tony is 51yo grandpa now>First game can drink pisswater in States
>>6123506You literally can in the options
>>6122539Yes absolutely. My nostalgic favourite is Thps2, but my favourite game is THUG. Spent a lot of time fucking around in the level editor and just skating in general. Found lots of cool glitches and bugs too.Neversoft were one of the coolest dev companies.
IT'S JUST ANOTHER SATURDAY!
>>6124745Xbox version is better
>>6125742 thug 1 is so much better than thug 2, I'll take all the pro skater games and american wasteland over jackass the game ft. Tony hawk aka thug 2
>>6125742THUG 1 had the best final boss ever.Yes, a final boss in a skating game. And you actually want to punch the guy.
HERE TOOOODAYYYYGONE TOOOOMORROOOWWWWW
>>6128098Yes, you can use an adapter and play with the PSOne or PS2 pads, that's what I did.
Fucking awesome games, especially the PS2 ones. So much of my childhood was spent playing the whole series. As a child, the later games felt like a humorous GTA, with shittons of easter eggs and quirky little details. The PS1 games are amazing gameplay-wise, it feels so great busting out combos and hitting a tough gap.
>>6122539The soundtracks, man.>QotSA>High on Fire>Hot Water Music>Jeru the Damaja>Haiku De'Etat>Gang Starr>Death From Above 1979>Nebula>Ween>Joy Division>The MelvinsI could go fucking on and on and on.
>>6128129>that secret ending where you punch him
>>6128110I loved Jackass: The Game. Of course meaning THUG2, not the actual Jackass: The Game which was complete horseshit.
>>6122539I played the shit out of THPS2 as a kid, and I loved it. But the PS2 games were far superior.
>>6123073The levels in 4 are great as always but the story mode sucks my balls
>>6128098Different game. THPS2 on DC is classic formula. The loading times were taxing back in the day, with an SD mod now loading times are non existent. Get an adapter and check it. Widescreen hacks are going on too, they have got it about half way between 4:3 and 16:9, needs some render fixes. It'll eventually happen.
>>6128098And the graphics are beige and muddy, and the motion blur is crap. The levels all together though are nice but too many changes and slight differences. The graphics on the DC are vivid sharp and great..
Series was good until American Wasteland. Then it went to pieces.
>>6123820>Tony hawk 2 annoys me because collecting all the cash can be frustrating.but it has spiderman!
>>6128107what the fuck, I had no idea this existed.>As the licensing deal between Tony Hawk and Activision was set to expire by the end of 2015, the game was hastily developed within a few months and released unfinished. Upon release, the game was a critical and commercial failure, and was panned heavily by critics, with criticism centering on its graphics, bugs and glitches, controls, and lack of design. kek
>>6128871Don't get me wrong, I love Thps2. Some of the best tony hawk levels and being able to play as spiderman is awesome, but as far ass sitting down and playing the career mode and beating it 100%, I'd rather play 1, 3, or underground. Tony hawk 4 annoyingly brought the floating cash back.
>>6122539Yes but the ripoff that is the ssx series basically made it obsolete.
>>6129196It’s laughable how a PS4 game can be 100 times worse than the original PS1 game from the same franchise. THPS5 might be the worst PS4 game ever. If you buy the disc version, you don’t actually get a full game. You have to download a 8gb update to experience the game you paid for.
>>6128871and officer dick
>>6123589AND I WOOONT WASTE MY TIME FITTING IIIIIIIN
Why is he tony hawk though?
>>6131876>find out Tony is actually short for Anthony
>>6131876Because calling the game "Antoni Jastrząb: Profesjonalny Skejcista" doesn't exactly work out internationally
>>6132656>>6132665i think it was just a reference for this
>>6122539I never really loved them but, for a while there it was all you really had. I use to gimp my skater's stats so they would perform just a bit closer to the real world.S.K.A.T.E just shows the entire Tony Hawk series to be the utter garbage that it was.
>>6132735>hurr durr muh realismNah, just gonna call bait on that one. No one is this retarded.
>>6123106>lmaoYou zoomers look like insecure fags ending every sentence with this.
>>6132717What the fuck, was he high while tweeting this?
>>6122539Ill be honest i loved everyone one of them. All the way up to project 8. I even gave thps 5 a try but that was shiy. They should have stayed with the thug styled games instead of going back to collecting skate and combo and
>>6132848Honestly wouldn't have recognized him if I saw him on a plane or at a restaurant before I saw the photo.
>>6132848His tweets about people getting confused are the best kind of comedy
>>6132858Anon, he'll be 52 this May. What were you expecting? When the games came out, he was already considered a grandpa in skating world
>>6125742>gimmick shit like vehicles and stealthingYou're really gonna say that when THUG2 had way more gimmick shit?
>>6132814Why would he be? What’s so weird about it?
>>6132975"why" is a question that makes no sense
>>6132980but it wasnt him asking it, it was the girl
>>6132980That’s what makes it funny, which is the reason he tweeted it
>>6132760>durrr gonna call retarded nigger on you
>>6133001>>6132735>>6130131Skate fucking sucks. Go back.
>>6131796is it worse than that weird wii-game with the skateboard-controller-thing?
>>6132717>Are you Tony Hawk?>Yes.>Why?
>>6133001You really need to go back.
>>6131796>If you buy the disc version, you don’t actually get a full game. You have to download a 8gb update to experience the game you paid for.Sadly, that's not uncommon these days. Some retail games don't even have a fucking disc, just a download code inside a PS4 game case.
>>6122539Underground Chads rise up.
>>6123386>You're essentially paying for a lazy "various artist" CD with all pre-existing tracks, not even new takes. If I'm going to play the game listening to MTV music, might as well choose my own music to listen to while I play.Counterpoint - No-one knew who the fuck half the bands in the game where beforehand and they never would have played on MTV
I played the Underground games to death as a kid.
>>6124745Can confirm. With the HDMI mod it smoothens jaggies and looks even better. THPS1 has complete widescreen working, THPS2 as you say is half done. Also agree with some here, after the first 2 it was saturated with features. The best tony hawkers definitely.
I own every Tony Hawk game except for a few gameboy entries. except THPS 5. that game is trash and i like to act like it doesnt exist.
>>6133456Skate is dead just like all extreme sports games. its been 10 years since Skate 3 and even longer since a good Tony Hawk game. but both skate and tony hawk games are great imo and have taken a lot of my time over the years
>>6122650I remember meeting him and his brother as a kid. Sucks his brother was too far gone to ever come back, and Tas is a wastoid forever. Fucking junkies
>>6122539I loved them even some of the newer games like project 8 were worth a look. It was a shame the plastic fad killed it
has anyone played pic related? is it as good as thps2 on dc?
>>6128089Based and Lagwagon pilled
>>6123386>all pre-existing tracksNot AWBut you are retarded either way, complaining that a skateboard game has licensed tracks.
>be me>2011>fail suicide attempt>end up in psych ward for a week>psych ward has N64>ask nurse to unlock TV cabinet>have enough good boy points for vidya>2 games>Mario Party 2 and Tony Hawk's Pro Skater>pop in Tony Hawk>nomemorycard.png>beat it in one sitting
HERE IN AMERICARESPECT FOR FELLOW MANSOME FOREIGN COUNTRIESDON'T UNDERSTAND
>>6138487I knew only sick crazy people liked Tony Hawk 1
>>6137270The animosity of not accepting the dreamcast as a relevant console at all is huge. Like even MK4, the gold edition had 5 more damn characters and most faithful to the graphics and even in MK circles people dont really accept it. Its okay, sometimes a console you didnt have growing up and love has your favorite games in the best version. Youll be ok.
>>61391516 actually. and its got a widescreen hack. cant get widescreen in any other version. plebs
I'll always love the Tony Hawk series, especially THUG, but I had a blast playing THUG2 when it came out.By the way, how does the PSP version fare? I've read that it's decent, but I'm hoping to hear from some anons here.Seeing this thread has renewed my interest in picking up the PSP remake since it's quite cheap
>>6139524I bought the PSP version after a classmate refused to return my PS2 copy. It’s pretty good.Improvements>New stagesCompromises>It has an annoying habit of restarting songs when you go to a new menu screen>worse textures (of course)>music doesn’t change on things like the Star Wars kid easter egg>secret characters like Shrek doesn’t have special boards, just regular ones (I also think their graffiti graphics are changed to generic stuff)
>>6122539I stopped at 3, but they were all great to the point I had forgotten to sleep and played them through all-nighters. Seems like 4, UG, UG2 has a lot of love on this thread, and maybe one day I'll give them a try. It is one of my most favorite sports game series.
>>6140209In my opinion the original Underground was the best one. Underground 2's story mode was too Jackass-y for my tastes but it's still a good game. American Wasteland is pretty good as well, even if adding BMX was kind of useless.
>>6122658>stopped before they added reverts2 was great, but 3 was better. Without reverts you simply couldn't make insane combos like you could in latter games, you had to rely a lot more on grinding.
>>6140468I'm sorry I have taste, gramps.
>>6122539I was with it from 2 (N64 and GBA) all the way to American Wasteland. Then Project 8 happened, I rented the PS2 version and was not really impressed, and while sure I played the shitty version of it, playing Proving Grounds just said to me that the series was burnt out at that point. Would I want a good classic THPS game? Sure, I don't even need walking or the super crazy shit of later games. But the Activision of today is basically the real Satan incarnate and Hawk's career is retired now while skating is basically dead, so fat chance of that.
>>6140474>i have embarrassing taste and underground was the first one i played
>>6140526>be me>2000>get Tony Hawk's Pro Skater for the N64 on my 9th birtrhday>love that game>play the shit out of it>don't get 2, 3, or 4>Christmas 2003>get Tony Hawk's Underground>also love that game>play the shit out of it>get Underground 2 and American Wasteland later>also good, but I think Underground is the best one>yesterday>see Tony Hawk thread on /vr/>say that I think Underground is the best Tony Hawk game>some 40 year old who hasn't bought a new game since 2002 calls me a zoomer>mfw
>>6139710The worse textures bit shouldn’t bother me. I’ve always found console-to-handheld ports extremely fascinating. I finally bit the bullet and paid $15 for a used copy (CIB) from eBay. Can’t wait to dive into it again!
>>6142280>don't get 2, 3, or 4Get out of the thread retard. No one wants you here.
>>6142280>born in '91>not a zoomerpick one (1)
>>6142280> Hi guys I haven't played the best games, but this mediocre one I have played is the best one!
>>6142915>be wrong because I said soIt’s called a millenial
>>6142414Have a great time, no doubt you will. I played it so many times in my early teens that I could basically speedrun it without even trying.
>>6142414>>6144143...and yes it’s a great port, you barely notice the compromises I listed earlier
Was 2X on the Xbox really that noteworthy with its content?
>>6144168For someone like me that jumped from the playstation to the Xbox it was a nice version to own
The only franchise I can legit say I'm skilled at. I 100%ed the mobile port of 2 using the touchscreen buttons.
Whats the best version of THPS 2 and 3?
>>6144257>2dreamcast if you like its graphics, PC if you don't. 2X is neat in itself but not quite the same game.>3haven't played it as much but i assume the PC version is the best. none of the 6th gen console versions stick out as looking or running worse so it probably doesn't matter which you play.
>>6122539Yeah, they're pretty good.
Play fucking thugpro. Thug2 Mod with a shit ton of levels ported in, glitch tech from previous games ported in, older trick animations ported in, custom soundtracks, custom levels, I really don’t know why there’s no mention of it in this thread. There’s a decent sized community around still but I would love more people from the Chan’s to play with.The skill cieling on this series is insane once you go beyond just 50-50ing to kickflipping over and over, it’s the only game I play anymore. Also thug1 was the best mechanically, thaw is my personal favorite but shit like wallplant cooldown and lack of offboard drift control really destroyed high level play. Please play thugpro.
>>6140472I think that's why 1 and 2 are better. They're not about insane combos. The stages and score models are designed around cool spots to trick on, rather than long lines.
>>6146634Looks cool but personally I prefer to play the original levels in their original game engines.
>>6142919not him but that's gonna be an "okay boomer" from me dawg.
>>6140209>questionsecond stick = camera control and clicking it in THUG2 onward triggered bullet time (or nail the trick AKA "we want skate's audience" in THP8 & THPG).L1 & R1 = one of them changed your footing from what i remember and in THUG onward pressing both got you on & off your board while pressing one of them off your board rotated the camera.it's been a lifetime since i played tony hawk games on a playstation.>>6140209>Seems like 4, UG, UG2 has a lot of love on this threadthe underground games are pretty much where the franchise peaked.THAW was okay but you can tell that they ran out of ideas on where to go with the series.proving grounds was fairly decent as the last tony hawk game by neversoft but they pretty much gutted most of the features (story & multiplayer are the only modes) tried to be like skate.THPSHD was a step in the right direction after the board games but it was pretty barebones and there was no create a character.
>>6146634ill play it when they add the missing THPS2 levels
>>6147034Probably won’t be coming for a while officially, thaw levels are next on the plate for the thugpro devs as I gather. That being said there are versions available already as custom levels.>>6146941Understandable, the online metagame is really the draw for this. Wallplanting and walking in Alcatraz is a pretty surreal experience though.
>>6147606What is the online metagame/community like? As in what gamemodes and stuff does it revolve around?
>All this shitting on 4 and UndergroundI swear you guys don't know what an actual bad game is. I replay the whole original 1-UG2 set almost yearly and I can't say a bad thing about any one of those games. I can't speak for the ones past those though.
>>6142919>"You have bad taste because your mom didn't cave in to your autistic screeching every time you wanted a game."
>>6148405That’s a semi big question as the community is somewhat segregated by interest. Your average lobby full of entry level/casual players though is usually going to be a thug1 manhattan lobby cycling through trick attack, free skate, graffiti, koth, and sometimes weirder stuff like firefight or scavenger hunt. There’s also an underrated appeal in just chilling in a free skate lobby and chatting about bullshit and hanging out, so you’ll see that between games a fair bit. Most in these sorts of entry level/beginner lobbies play for score but usually the best player can’t get beyond something like 10 million points. You’ll see a lot of 50-50 to impossible spammed over and over skating predictable level lines and speed manuals used again and again and needless to say it can pretty tiresome to watch post zero if someone is doing that for several minutes. On the other hand though with the game type variety and amount of levels thugpro offers (not to mention the augmented create-park functionalities) means that these lobbies can be a hell of a lot of fun to play in.Most of the high level players that have been playing since the release of the online titles totally eschew score as it has become a sort of outmoded and mindnumbing to pursue. Dedicated players playing purely for score (known as whoring) are so good at holding combos that a single combo will often go for over 15+ minutes, clear out the rest of the lobby because it’s so boring to spectate, and the score has to be calculated externally as the point engine wraps into negatives after a certain number, as I recall around 2 billion something. It’s a bit of a dying art and the few keeping it alive are mostly polish/Russian. Here’s a random example: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6A2kwAAhrrQ
>>6148405Pt.2Most advanced players play in a style called improv which is basically just playing for style to look cool and trying to play in as non-linear a fashion as possible. There’s an obscene amount of difficult and stylish glitch tech you can pull off in the thps engine that the base game has no way to objectively measure in terms of a point value (spinouts, buttslaps, wallride bounces, teleporting in combo, getting huge glitch air off walls, midair manuals, etc). It’s pretty autistic but it’s also a lot of fun, and I suppose more in the ethos of actual skateboarding rather than chasing arbitrary point values. Most into this aspect of the game spend their time making videos or doing transfers as the skill ceiling is basically endless. I’ve found it to be more rewarding a pursuit than any other game I’ve played. Here’s an example of somebody that’s highly recognized as a thps god that I really love to watch play.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BFKqvmFfj_I&t=621sThere are lots of other good videos on that channel but some are better than others.There’s also a good number of modders, mappers, and custom park creators in the community creating content for the games that keeps things fresh between major mod updates which seems to be around once to twice a year these days.Sorry for the text dump, I just like to be comprehensive since it’s something i’m very passionate about. There’s a few other disparate tribes but those are the main ones. Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>6139151>Like even MK4, the gold edition had 5 more damn characters and most faithful to the graphics and even in MK circles people dont really accept itIsn't that because the gold edition was rushed and had tons of bugs?
Project 8 was pretty fun when I replayed it recently.Plus they called back to the first Pro Skater by having another Primus song in the soundtrack.
>>6148949Ya it was but they released an updated version, you could trade in the copy you bought for it. Its a different color and stuff. They fixed almost everything, i think a couple of small bugs still exist. The Pal version is native speed to the arcade, but the US release is like 20% faster. I like it.
>>6123068Underground was one of my favorites of all time.>tfw I wanted to be a pro at age 12>but i was too fat to do a proper ollie
Anyone who DOESNT like Tony hawk games is a major red flag
>>6148559You can't shit on a game you haven't play, you stupid moron! easy as that.