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Previous Thread: >>5690008

>Try to keep things /vr/ related: Focus should be on 5th Gen (+Dreamcast) games on back. Slight off topic is fine so long as it's related to CRTs, such as later 16:9 models, HD models, etc. Systems with backwards compatibility are also safe territory, as are re-releases on newer hardware. PC CRTs are also welcome and appreciated.
>Produce OC! Bust out your camera and take photos of your CRTs displaying all sorts of games, featuring all sorts of tubes, using all sorts of signals. Getting good shots can be hard, but if you take enough, at least a few will turn out alright. Tips'n'Tricks™ coming soon.
>Try and give as much information as possible when asking for info on a specific set, or troubleshooting an issue to expedite and help you may receive. As always, Google is your friend and we are your friends with benefits. Older archived threads aren't a bad place to look either; Seriously, there's literally 6 years of backlog at this point.
>Share appreciation for other's choice of technology and personal philosophy of gaming. Always remember to show courtesy in your discussion and moderate yourselves first.

Limited discussion of video processing and scaling devices is alright, but remember to keep the focus on CRTs and CRT accessories.

CRT Pastebin (Never Ever) : http://pastebin.com/1Ri5TS3x
Guide to CRT Hunting : http://pastebin.com/H9H9L2LQ
Guide to Video Monitors : http://pastebin.com/pQX4N6gZ
General Purpose CRT Adjustment Guide : http://www.arcaderepairtips.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/guide_setup_adjust_arcade_monitors_v1.2.0.pdf
S-Video Pasta : http://pastebin.com/rH2h6C7W
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JVC RGB card cloning guide : https://pastebin.com/EXqMBfcY

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Are there any cheaper YPbPr adapters for the Genesis? Only one I can find is this HD Retrovision one.
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>>5726789
The genesis doesn't do YPbPr. I don't know why you would put the converter in the cable.
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>>5726815
It looks like most universal SCART-YPbPr converters are a bit more expensive but at least they work on multiple systems I guess.
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I've got a JVC TM-H150CG and am looking to expand it with an SDI card. The specs state it should take a IF-C21SDG, but will it take the IF-C21SD1G as well? The JVC website doesn't really give any clear information about how the two models differ, other than the somewhat different connectors on it.
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>>5726781
crts are a space and energy hog.
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>>5726781
>Getting good shots can be hard, but if you take enough, at least a few will turn out alright. Tips'n'Tricks™ coming soon
>soon
Soon or soon™? Where is my fucking tips and tricks anon. Give them to me.

>>5727021
A 13" tv, a keyboard, a pi, the cables, a power strip, and a ds4, combined has a smaller desktop footprint than my printer.
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>>5727021
weak bait
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>>5727046
>smaller desktop footprint than my printer
Speaking of space and energy hogs..
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>>5726870
Why would you want an SDI Card? I can't think of any consoles that have native SDI support, and something like pic related would be a much better investment while also being easier to find.
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>>5727052
and yet, you still took a bite.
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I'm consolizing a neo geo arcade board and am using a circuit to attenuate the RGB levels to that appropriate for consumer equipment. I have an RGB monitor so I'm set. I would like to add other video outputs for taking this to a few friend's houses.

So what's the cheapest way to get from RGB to Component? RGB to S-video, RGB to composite? I'm totally open to self soldering, even smd stuff, in fact, I would prefer something DIY as I don't want to spend shit on this and quite enjoy soldering.

Pic related is the fix for some of the trinitrons. If you have a loud whine and touch the case and it stops, this fixes it. It's harmonic resonance traveling from the flyback to the case, which amplifies the sound. I used soft foam toilet bowl to tank gasket, cut into washers and bolted it back together. Plain rubber washers would probably work, as would something like yoga mat foam rubber. I think an anon had this problem last thread but never answered when I asked if touching the case stopped it. It's a flat screen, guessing 24" or so but I forget the exact model.
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>>5726789
I did the retrotek rgb to component adapter. I think they cost $80 but you can use them for multiple systems. They take scart, but most does unless you make your own cables.

Honestly if you only want a few of the retrovision cables, it's probably easiest to just buy them. It's not necessarily the best for all setups but it is damn easy and you can get different adapters for a few other systems.

>>5727021
>space
buy or rent a house, alternatively ask your parents to buy a bigger house.
>energy hog
First worlders don't worry about $5 worth of electricity a month. Also pic related but I'm bored so have a (You).
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>>5727346
another one bites the b8
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>>5727276
It's for HDMI thru a SDI scaler, so I can reference images from my PC and play PS4 on it.
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>>5726789
I looked for one as well.
I gave up and kept using composite since my PVMeme doesn't do SCART.
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>>5727346
Less than $2 a month.
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>>5726870
The slightly different SD SDI card models for the JVCs are just audio monitoring stuff. The HD-SDI cards meant for the DT-Vs probably work on the TM-H1*50s too (so long as you send SD in)
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>>5727540
does your monitor do RGB? The 10$ no-name genesis to rgb scart cable looks great if you just add a sync stripper to it
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>>5727627
* i mean you can just convert SCART to BNC
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best crt to play megaman legends on?
i want my roll to look her best
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>>5727627
So... you mean get a regular scart cable, cut the end off and replace it with BNC adapters and if my monitor accepts RGB then it should just work?
Brb, checking the manual again real quick.
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>>5727735
I have the 44 version. So I think it does.
Wouldn't hurt to try.
I'll look up some guides on how to go about it.
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Amature calibration 101
Requirements: a way to display SMPTE color bars (i.e. 240p test suite), blue only mode/ability to turn off individual color guns on set, or blue gel filter

Color/chroma: enter blue only mode and adjust first and last color bars (grey and blue) until the grey and blue evenly blend together

Tint/hue: again in blue only mode, adjust cyan/magenta bars until they evenly blend with the above/below colors

Black level/brightness: lower brightness till three strips of black in lower right (PLUGE) all fade to black. Turn up brightness until the far right bar becomes visible

White level/contrast: lower brightness all the way and turn up until white box warps/blooms/distorts
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How come OOT coming from my Wii looks better than OOT coming from my N64 on my CRT? Kinda new to the /vr/ scene so if it's something obvious please lemme know.
Is there anyway to get my N64 looking as crisp as my Wii VC?
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>>5728089
Wii runs N64 games at 480i or 480p, N64 games are 240p
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>>5727643
>i want my roll to look her best
>Posts very shitty fan art
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>>5728089
>falling for the sharp pixels meme
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>>5728089
You probably have bad taste so this likely won't apply to you, but if you want Ocarina of Time to look its best, mod your N64 to output RGB to your CRT. S-video is one step down, but decent, and at least it'll be in proper 240p compared to the 480i or 480p that your Wii's using for Ocarina.
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>>5728093
>>5728097
>>5728110
From an enthusiast's perspective, what is the advantage to N64 vs Wii? Wii definitely looks crisper, for better and for worse, but are there any known major issues that come with the territory?
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my CRT is getting dim
should i throw it away?
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>>5728095
looks great to me
are you retarded?
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>>5727329
for s-video and composite you need an encoder (most of them will also buffer and clamp RGB). For component you need another step, either external or with another chip like tim does with nesrgb.
Sony CXA1645 and 2075 are good and easy to setup, 2075 is better but SMD only.
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>>5728147
The Wii N64 VC has no scan lions and the emulation may be imperfect. The advantages are that it's higher resolution and there's less slowdown than on the original console.
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>>5728450
>no scan lions
Gay
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>>5728147
There may be slight issues with the emulation, but the only ones that matter to me are input lag and the wrong rendering/output resolution. I don't agree that N64 games look better at higher resolutions. I think they by far look best at 240p on a CRT, and usually in RGB. So input lag + aesthetics, in my opinion.
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>>5726781
I recently turned on a CRT for testing purposes, i was going to buy and heard a high pitched noise.

Are there CRT tv's without that headache inducing high pitched noise?
Let me know guys, thanks a bunch.
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>>5728472
Either it's broken or you're a dumb zoomer.
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>>5728472
Yes there are, but you'll have to test them out yourself. I've never had a PVM, Ikegami or Sony, that made the noise, only consumer CRTs, but I don't know if that's a trend.
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>>5728472
Yes, 100Hz and 120Hz TVs.
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Anyone can see a difference between 240p n64 games and 480i games (ideally the expansion pack games)? Like ocarina vs majors mask.
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>>5728547
Yes, the difference is massive, and 480i was always a terrible way to use the expansion pack. Never enable that option.
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>>5727451
I believe HD SDI is a different standard from regular SDI and won't work with those Blackmagic scalers.
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>>5728547
Not all of Majora's Mask is 480i. You can see the 480i mode at certain times though, like opening the Bomber's Notebook.

Open it and you'll immediately notice what flickery 480i looks like in comparison to 240p.
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>>5727735
>art cable, cut the end off and replace it with BNC adapters and if my monitor accepts RGB then it should just work?

Just FYI, these exist: https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/sony-av-accessories/sony-pvm/sony-pvm-scart-converter-bnc you can find sellers on ebay who sell them for less and are US based. Also, you can make your own if you buy female scart heads ($3-4) and a monoprice bnc cable. The monoprice is about $10, but if you cut it in half, it gives you two ends to make cables with, and a lot of extra shielded wire for projects. All in all counting resistors you're out probably $10 per cable, $12 if you need a sync stripper as certain models of extron crosspoint require. If you're going straight to pvm or a bandridge switcher, you don't need sync stripper.

Alternately, you should be able to just remove the scart end from a pre made scart cable, wire in the monoprice bnc (with whatever resistors you need hidden in a small project box, or heat shrink tubing. Doing it this way and bypassing the scart, the cables would be $5 or so each.
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>>5727735
Here's a link, ignore where it's from, I don't want to lose my 4chan street cred: https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/comments/56pw7c/how_to_make_diy_scart_to_bnc_breakout_cables_for/

Some posts in there give a sort of tutorial and links to the monoprice.
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>>5728418
>Sony CXA1645
Thanks for the info, I looked up the data sheet and this seems to be exactly what I need. I'll look at the 2075 too, SMD is ok by me. I really appreciate the help, I had no idea where to look.

Pic related isn't mine, just something I saw while scrolling through imgur.
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>>5728679
>>5728683
Thank for the links guys.
Time to dust off my soldering iron and get to making my own cables.
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>>5728701
>>>5728147
>The Wii N64 VC has no scan lions and the emulation may be imperfect. The advantages are that it's higher resolution and there's less slowdown than
nice aussie pokemon n64 m8, where did you get that n64 game holder.
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>>5728095
Lmao I was going to say exactly this
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>>5728472
zoom zoom, zoomer. You must be 18 to post here.
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>>5729574
It says Pic related was found on imgur.
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>>5729586
shit. sorry anon, didnt see it, ill do some searching then, i need better storage for my games
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>>5729585
The funny part is, he probably doesn't understand how we can tell he's a young un.
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>>5729593
Googling it, all of the results are for auscuck shit so it might have only been released there.

https://thegameexperts.com.au/products/genuine-nintendo-64-cartridge-storage-tower
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>>5729671
>https://thegameexperts.com.au/products/genuine-nintendo-64-cartridge-storage-tower
thanks anon, very helpful
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>>5728040
Thanks anon, this proved very useful for my NTSC source. Is there a way for calibrating PAL signals as well?
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>>5730073
Yeah. It's exactly the same.
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I want more CRTs. I'm up to three now.
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>>5726815
But the genesis has native rgb without a mod which this cable converts into a component signal and is just plug n play
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>>5730139
Yeah, it's great if it's the only console you will ever want to play.
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>>5730087
except you don't mess with hue
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>>5727046
>13" TV and a Pi
>not one and a NES / 150 in 1 cart
come the fuck on zoomer
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>>5730087
PAL black point is lower, meaning blacks will be crushed if calibrated using NTSC standards.
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>>5730649
NES was shit.
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>>5730618
>>5730764
Neither of these apply to consoles anyway.
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I have a stupid question the Phillips crt I'm using I'm using component with a Nintendo wii and it looks like overscan is on but no options to turn it off
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>>5731015
Google for a service manual. If you can adjust that stuff on a consumer set it's usually in a secret service menu.
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>>5730998
Hue is probably going to be fine by default but brightness adjust sure matters.
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>>5731141
Right. You should probably just ignore everything in >>5728040 and find a better guide actually. 240p test suite has the patterns you need, and tells you how to not fuck your black level up by doing things like in >>5728040
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>>5731221
https://youtu.be/qkQjSAHxxi0

that anon isn't wrong in what he said, calibrating for NTSC sources via SMPTE colour bars works that way.
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Have some shadow mask
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>>5731229
that's fucking hot, anon. can you post some pics of other games like warcraft, duke nukem, or mechwarrior? high pitch tridot is the best for older games.
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>>5731234
Sure, I'll try it out
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>>5728472
the solution is to grow up, then you won't be bothered by ulltrasonic noises like some kind of dog
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>>5731238
whoa, that's an awesome pic. is left an lcd or a sharp crt? what kind of camera and settings are you using here?
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>>5731242
>>5731238
>>5731229
same anon, i'd love to know which monitor you're using. it's great looking.
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>>5731224
Yeah, except "NTSC sources" isn't some homogeneous thing. Hint: your consoles don't output the same type as signal that comes through the airways.
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>>5731253
an NTSC TV should be calibrated for NTSC. It's not a hard concept to understand. What do you suggest doing otherwise?
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>>5731256
Only if you care about NTSC US standard sources, a lot of consoles use NTSC J standards for levels even on the US models, so brightness has to be set a little differently since there's no sub-black.
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>>5731260
>a lot of consoles
Most.
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>>5731260
Then post a guide for calibrating to NTSC-J standards.
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>>5728472
A regular CRT television will always make that ~15 kilohertz noise. There are other types of CRT that operate at 31 kHz which is inaudible to humans. Your best option is a high resolution LCD with fancy shaders. 1440p is is good enough for simulating aperture grilles an shadow masks. 4K is recommended for dot masks. The phrase "play 'til your eyes bleed" completely disappeared from use when CRTs were phased out. That's how much more fatiguing they are.
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>>5731265
See 240p suite guide, set brightness so middle bar of PLUGE is visible, not disappearing like you would for NTSC US
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>>5731242
It's a cheap LCD, I'll try it again later because I just noticed the aspect ratio is wrong on the left. For now I'm using a LG K7 (Open Camera lowering ISO) and the monitor is a Samsung Syncmaster 796MB
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>>5731273
Alright, sorry for being dickish in my response. Is that all the difference between NTSC and NTSC-J?

>>5731279
Your pics are good nonetheless, I'd love to see more. Keep it up.
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>>5731279
>Samsung Syncmaster 796MB
What resolution and refresh rate are you running?
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Don't fall for the SCART meme.
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>>5731507
This
S-Video master race :^)
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>>5731271
> The phrase "play 'til your eyes bleed" completely disappeared from use when CRTs were phased out. That's how much more fatiguing they are.
Top keks were had.
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>>5731507
Scart isn't a meme, pvm are however. Some consoles look better rgb or component (with encoder) and this is just a convenient way to get pre made cables.
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Do I need an American CRT if I have a modded Super Famicom that supports all regions as well as being able to force both 50 and 60hz?

Going to pick up two CRT TVs this sunday (will post pictures) and I want to be able to play the NTSC version of several games.
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How can I take a picture of a game on a CRT?

Is the only way to take a picture from the side with a weird angle?
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>>5731507
>>5731547
The scart connector is kinda shit. Shame that basically all good TVs are scart TVs though. In other words, cope.
Inb4
>b-but muh YPbPr
yikes.
>>5731769
>Insta-thot
Begone, zoomer.
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>>5728316
Find someone willing to take it off your hands and replace the capacitors.
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Is there some sort of pastebin for hooking up a pc to a pvm? I really only want to use it for some ps2 games really. Everything else I can just play on my n64 or wii.
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>>5732008
Why not just get a PS2?
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>>5732012
You know, I don't know why, but I legitimatley hadn't even thought of doing that.
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>>5732013
If you get a fat PS2, it's easy enough to set up homebrew on it to play games off of a hard drive too. It's what I did anyways.
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>>5732021
That's the plan. Geez, I've always had issues with ps1 emulation, so putting some homebrew stuff on a ps2 would alleviate that issue I'm sure. Time to look into this further. Christ I feel retarded.
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>>5732031
Actually, PS1 games on PS2 doesn't work nearly as well through softmodding, last I checked. Considering it has to be in PS2 mode to do softmodding and not PS1 mode.
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SNES with RF out
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>>5732008
You need a Radeon GPU (pic related), a VGA to 5 BNC adapter and CRT Emudriver.
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>>5728147
>>5728450
>>5728470
You can play Virtual Console games at 240p
See the "Playing in 240p" section: https://www.retrorgb.com/wiivsclassic.html
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>>5732479
I know, I used to use a Wii with a CRT when it was current. But I was replying to a post about Ocarina of Time. N64 games always ran at 480i or 480p. Has that changed?
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>>5732479
Just checked the spreadsheet. According to that no 240p.
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>>5731271
>>5731561
I actually remember my sight getting very tired the first month I started using a PC CRT as my main monitor, but now I don't mind at all.
And my sight is still 20/20. Even though I recognize the image is "fuzzy" I can read it without problems. Funny thing is that when my Father or even my younger brother come and look at it, they can't make out the text. My Father isn't really a surprise, but my brother should be able to. It's what has led me to believe looking at CRTs is an acquired taste.
I can also make out the interlacing in SD CRT TVs and I don't like it, but whatever.
/blog
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I just cant seem to access the service menu on this damn magnavox I just bought, some fucker turned the contrast up so high its painful to look at. I have a universal remote but it has no "picture/sleep" button on it to change it on the fly, and I'm not sheeling out nearly 30 bucks on a remote for a tv I bought for 5.
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>>5731507
this
I just buy the console connectors and some BNCs and make my own cables
fuck SCART, it doesn't belong in this country
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Ah, another friday night enjoying the classics
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>>5732109
hell yeah brother
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>>5732592
Is there any reason to play the NES version over the one included with All Stars? The NES version looks terrible.
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>>5732661
I don't know if it's because I started with an MD and SNES, but gen 3 games look awful to me.
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I have this CRT on my couch table, while I was drinking yesterday my little bro tried to play some Mario Party on it.
TOday I showed him and my mom the setup, the SCART switcher and my Everdrive.
Got the 91st star on my SM64 file with my mom. She also whooped Bowser lol
FeelsGoodMan
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>>5731883
If using a phone swipe right go to pro settings. Turn iso down to like 30 or 60, experiment, and sometimes manually focus. That's it.
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>>5732661
They changed the physics in All Stars. I think the NES version is something you would enjoy as a piece of video game history, in all it's shitty graphics glory.

All Stars SMB is something that's enjoyable on it's own merit even today as a good 2D platformer. Basically you play NES SMB because memes, you play All Stars because you want to enjoy the gameplay.
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>>5732669
>gen 3
that collection is just straight up ugly, looks ugly on every playback device. Nice effort though by Nintendo
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>>5732681
Nice. Fun times.
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>>5732683
I've never done a complete playthrough of a single NES game. I should probably force myself to do that.
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What should I tell the ebay seller in the note section when I buy the CRT? Is there any way I should specify to them on how to package it?
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>>5732842
Box it, then box in another box with 6inch of foam, offer to pay $20 for extra trouble.
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>>5732715
If you want something relatively easy do kirbys adventure. Fun game good graphics but easy. For more challenge Mr gimmick. Gimmick is 10/10
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>>5732715
If you never completed it the original LoZ is a good entry point. You're probably already familiar with how it works, it's accessible but will still give you a good challenge and is a great introduction to the brutal NES difficulty but without completely crushing your spirit.

Also seconding>>5732870
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>>5732683
>... in all it's shitty graphics glory.
Ooo, that is some bad taste.
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>>5732683
>Basically you play NES SMB because memes, you play All Stars because you want to enjoy the gameplay.
Ooo, this is some even worse taste.
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>>5732870
>>5732913
Thanks anons!
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Has anyone tried playing GBA through a Wii, PSP or PS2 to see how it looks on a CRT?

I would be very interested in this, as those consoles have some emulators for Genesis, SNES, PCE and the like
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>>5733242
Why specifically on those consoles? RPIs have analog video out and support 240p.
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>>5733335
I imagine anon is someone who owns all those already and doesn't want to bother with a Pi or buy a Gamecube + Game Boy Player just for GBI.
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>>5733407
I have to imagine modding them just so you can use shitty emulators at <100% speed is more involved than plugging a pi into your tv.
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>>5731302
For DOS games I alternate between 640x480 and 320x240 at 70Hz (640x400/320x200 won't run DOSBox fullscreen, maybe I'm fucking something up) and for general emulation 3840x480
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>>5733242
I can go load one up on my 3b+, what game in particular do you want to see?
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>>5733242
Looks fine on wii. I wouldn't recommend psp as emulator machine for TV, it doesn't output anything but ps1 games properly.
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I love shadow mask!
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>>5733242
I tried playing it through a rPi as >>5733335 mentioned.
I didn't like how it looks on a big screen.
I enjoy those games more on a handheld.
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Should I exclusively focus my consumer CRT searching on Trinitrons or are there overlooked standard definition CRT's from other brands? I have no intention of buying a PVM.
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>>5733916
Any sdtv that looks okay to you will be fine.
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>>5733916
Most of the common Japanese brands are good and a few others. Panasonic, JVC, Philips, Sony, Bang and Olufsen and Samsung are ones to look out for as they almost exclusively made good tubes.
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>this faggot in SD keeps buying all the PVMs wherever I fucking go
>some guy is selling a few from a recent hospital clean-up for $50, go check it out
>get there
>turns out the guy just sold his entire stock in one go since the faggot that buys them offered triple for the one he reserved for me
>seller feels bad since he didn't get the chance to tell me, but he gives me $50 as compensation for my time
>still mad as fuck
FUCK YOU SPIDER WAFFLE YOU GOD DAMN SCALPER SO MUCH HE'S GOD DAMN EVERYWHERE
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>>5733918
>>5733926
Thank you. I'm getting a consumer Panasonic from ebay. Hopefully it comes in safe through the mail.
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So. I tried making my own RGB breakout cable to connect my Mega drive to a PVM.

This is the result. I double checked the connection and they are ok but I fucked up somewhere obviously.

Sonic feels like I'm playing an alternate evil dimension.
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>>5734286
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>>5734286
>>5734302
Idk. High resistance on the blue connection? Do you have a multimeter?
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>>5734286
tie every ground together
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Any suggestions for an s-video switcher?
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Been using a 1600x1200 CRT PC monitor I picked up the other day. It doesn't have any distracting geometry issues like all my other CRTs, PVMemes and BVMemes have. Feels so fucking good man. Swapping between 640x480 and HD resolutions without any problems is so fucking good.
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>>5734837
You should be able to force a custom res to 320x240@120. I have to admit I never cared much for scanlines before but it really does look crisp as all hell.
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>>5734884
really? Do you know how to force it below 640x480? That would be bangin
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>>5734896
Don't bother dude. 240p120Hz is only good for taking screenshots as the motion is blurry. Stick to 480p60Hz or use black-frame insertion if you must use 240p.
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>>5734936
>the motion is blurry.
explain, I haven't noticed a difference
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>>5734958
Yeah I don't either. BFI didn't do anything for me other than to dim the image
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>>5734896
Creating a custom resolution
http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Display_FAQ#240p.2F480i
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>>5734286
>>5734302
300% soul, just as the developers intended.
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>>5734403
>>5734491
I'll get a multimeter and check again later.
I've noticed that white doesn't show up at all, so maybe it's something related to that. I tried with a different console and results were the same.

>>5734992
Kek
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>>5734936
>Don't bother dude. 240p120Hz is only good for taking screenshots as the motion is blurry.
Yes, tried this myself. Waste of time.
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>>5735010
Literally do not understand this. The only difference I saw between scanlined 480@60 and 240@120 is that 480 had fat chunky lines and was too fucking dark. You people must have some fucked up eyes
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>>5735027
Because it scans the frame twice the image persists longer so there is a very noticeable ghosting
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Will there be any input latency if I use a composite adapter for my RF only TV?
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>>5735278
no
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>>5733335
RPi are kinda expensive here, 140 dollars and on

>>5733425
I wanted to see Mega Man Zero, Wario or Battle Network if it isn't too bothersome
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>>5735413
>$140
Sounds like some auscuck-tier price fuckery, my condolences. Here you go anon, pics incoming.
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>>5735505
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>>5735518
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>>5735524
Aaand that's it. Looks pretty okay for a handheld game on a tiny SDTV.
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>>5735505
>>5735518
>>5735524
>>5735528
get the gbi interface
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maT2M68z3vk
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>>5735549
I don't have a GC. Only had a PS2 and Xbox for gen 6 and then got out of the console market entirely.
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>>5726781
Been a while since I came to a /CRT/ thread

Just wondering if there was any talk by one of the hardware people about a higher resolution or updated OSSC/XRGB-like device? 1080p is cool and all, but I feel like with the years of feedback and learning a new device should have at least been mentioned? Even if it is still max 1080p there are so many minor issues with the current most recommended devices I thought I would ask.


Personally I use the OSSC to adapt to pc CRT or my OLED. Would be cool to have less fiddling with the OSSC and/or not have my XRGB for only a few specific systems.
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>>5735518
>>5735528
These in particular look surprisingly good!

Will probably buy it then. Wii/GC has a nice library too.
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>>5731234
>low pitch tridot is the best for older games
ftfy
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>>5731271
We need 8K to emulate every individual phosphor.
Fuck off with your fatigue shit, this is why newer displays have such awful motion blur. Flicker is needed for smooth motion period.
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>>5732683
>Basically you play NES SMB because memes, you play All Stars because you want to enjoy the gameplay.
Holy fuck neck yourself.
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>>5735604
Yeah, I don't know what that anon is smoking, 4K isn't nearly big enough for shadowmask dots to look decent.
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>>5733926
>Bang and Olufsen
>Samsung
>Japanese
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>>5734936
>>5734978
>>5735010
You shouldn't do flat 120hz BFI, you should do the exact double of the refresh rate of the console.
E.G Mega Drive runs at 59.1hz or something like that and you should set the BFI to 118-ish hz.
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>>5735604
>newer displays have such awful motion blur. Flicker is needed for smooth motion period

lmao; no.
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>>5735138
It's called the double image effect and it can be avoided with BFI.
The refresh rate needs to be set exactly double the original refresh rate though...not 120hz...it's supposed to be 119 or 118-ish hz
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>>5735625
Here's what it looks like at 8K. It's somewhat passable at a distance, but there's still a long way to go. At that point I think it's less of a resolution issue, and more that Royale itself could be improved.
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>>5735679
lmao yes
this is why ULMB is a thing

top crt's used to have 1ms to 2ms of persistence blur which equates to 500fps@500hz
60fps@60hz sample and hold(flicker-free) on the other hand equates to 16.67ms of blur and it looks like dogshit

as soon as you'll see that 8k microled with CRT shaders and high as fuck brightness(to combat brightness loss from shaders and ULMB) you will see the light
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>>5735686
You don't have an 8K display why are you lying?
Also depends on the size of the monitor. For a 24-ish 16:9 inch monitor(which equates to about a 20 inch 4:3 monitor) the DPI should be high enough at 8K.
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>>5735686
>and more that Royale itself could be improved
You can manually adjust it.
The base settings are not the greatest and also CRT-Royale Kurozumi is much better but that's for aperture grille only afaik.
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>>5735731
I never said I had an 8K display you autist. That's being rendered at 19x NN (or 20x with overscan), which is what you'll eventually be using with 8K. It's showing the subpixel detail we can get with current shaders at that resolution.
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>>5735518
Is this Wii's GBA emulator? How would you compare the image quality to GC's GB player?
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>>5735390
Thanks.
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>>5735961
>Is this Wii's GBA emulator?
mGBA with this overlay.
>How would you compare the image quality to GC's GB player?
Should be similar if using composite out.
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Anyone have a good recommendation for a vga to component transcoder?

I think I saw Mike Chi had something in the pipeline, but, I don't know recall exactly what it was.
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>>5736027
how did you get the border working? There isn't anything related to it in the menus/settings or in the instruction file
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>>5735641
>And a few others
By god I knew some moron would come along with terrible reading comprehension. Philips are Dutch as well you actual spastic.
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Anything I need to know or fix?
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>>5736379
Shameful dispray

How is that n64 replacement stick working for you? I've heard mixed things.
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>>5736396
Minor upgrade but still a bit grindy and sometimes likes to get stuck just the same.
Never found a replacement worth buying so far, 64 players will just have to suck it up I guess.

Also damn this game did not age well, lots of things you need to forgive it to have fun.
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>>5736507
What are you talking about?
Disable auto-aim and completing the whole story on 007 takes a couple of weeks of nice grind (only level that sucks because it is kinda RNG is Train, where retarded bitch doesn't leave on time and dies to the explosion)
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>>5736581
Just not a Goldeneye guy, I think it's a tedious game.
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>>5735625
Nice try but ultimately SOULLESS.
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>>5728450
What about running an n64 emulator off the wii like wii64 or something?
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PVM 2030
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>>5736995
taking a screen pic is hard when the shaded bands keep showing up on phone camera going up
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>>5733335
Like a clockwork.
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>>5733242
Visual Boy Advance GX on Wii is pretty much perfect for Game Boy, Game Boy Color and Game Boy Advance. I don't know about other people, but I select the x1 scaling and output 240p to my 27" CRT. They look really sharp, albeit kind of small. May post some pics later.
Don't listen to Raspberry Pi degenerates.
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>>5736798
They're still 480i for some reason.
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Alright so this CRT has a black line through it, and the sound cuts off sometimes and then comes back.

I don't want to throw it out, but I'm not good enough with tech to fix it.
Should I declare this CRT a goner?
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>>5736995
>>5736996
The buttons are "hella rad", but please turn the light off anyway.
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Its been a while, I'm back with more shitty photos of my tv. Today I went to a retro gaming expo and got to try a pvm. It was awesome, but some of the other tvs made me appreciate what I have.
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>>5737374
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>>5736996
>>5736995

Umi is my waifu
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>>5737349
No fuck off they are hella rad
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>>5737349
>lit buttons
Soul
>nobuttons
Soulless
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>>5728450
scan lion
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>>5737087
Thank you! Will look forward to your pics
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>>5737087
>my inaccurate shitty emulator is better than your accurate and non-shit emulator!
based
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>>5737107
There is a fork called not64 that implements 240p (it may even be in the upstream version?)

It's not accessible via menu though, you have to manually set the mode in the cfg file. That being said, the emulation isn't great but is workable for OoT for what I've played of it on there. Mileage may vary.
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>>5736581
The level that always fucked me was control. I swear to god I took me months of off and on play while those motherfuckers would just snipe her from the top of the stairs
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IS IT WRONG TO ENJOY THE LOOK OF COMPOSITE?
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>>5737720
Like whatever you want, nobody who's opinion actually matters cares...
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>>5737720
Composite unironically has soul. If you're going to fall for the crisp pixel meme you might as well just use an LCD tv like the rest of the upscalerfags.
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>>5737810
>muh soul
Opinion discarded. Thank you for participating. You may go back now.
>>>/v/
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Visual Boy Advance GX running on Wii through Component at 240p. Panasonic 27" CRT TV.
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>>5738179
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>>5738182
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>>5738187
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>>5738194
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>>5738197
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>>5738202
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>>5738204
Finito.
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Thank you!!!

This one looks great >>5738187
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>>5738285
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>>5737720
I play my megadrive using composite.
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>>5738285
>>5738287
>pvmeme
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>>5738560
This is nice.
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Good morning!
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>>5731221
When will palfags realize they aren’t relevant? No one cares about that standard. The only games worth playing came from NTSC countries.
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>>5738572
they're shitty b/w tubes that no one will use nor regret
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>>5739010
Imagine being an absolute retard. Oh wait, you don't have to imagine.
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>>5738519
It's not a PVM it's a 36" Trinitron WEGA I got for free from Craigslist on Saturday.
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Recent setup right here. Got the trinitron for free right before it rained at a yard sale. Very nice but a huge pain to get upstairs on the third floor.
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>>5739356
27 inch and have a 3d0 and PS2 hooked up also so far.
>>5732592
I cant imagine playing on a screen that small but I do love the pictures.
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>>5738519
>>5739308
lol btfo
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>>5731507
SCART is fine for the sake of having a pre-established cheap-to-make RGB-capable connector. Though I wouldn't mind if 3x/4x BNCs was the more common option instead.
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>>5734286
>>5734302
Hey anon, I've run into this issue, except the issue is a thing with my whole monitor(a 9-inch Ikegami). Can you try connecting something to the PVM with a pre-made proper cable, even if it's just composite, and post the results?
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>>5739556
Oh, just saw >>5735009 and that you tried with another console. Maybe try probing between the BNC connectors and a test point on the PCB that they should connect to on the inside.
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>>5739565
(pic of mine showing the DreamCast menu)
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>>5739565
When I said another console I meant another sega console.
I tried today with a ps1 and a scart cable (it doesn't do RGB so I assume it sends a composite signal only) and that one worked correctly.

So now it's either the sega scart cable or I'm missing something on the scart-bnc one.

Further testing must be done.
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>>5738035
SOUL and SOULLESS are here to stay. You may leave if it offends you. 4chan is a Norwegian Macrame image board, not your safe space.
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>>5739692
I got you, anon!
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>>5735604
>Flicker is needed for smooth motion period.
flicker isn't a part of the resolutions that these old games produce
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>tfw in latin america it's almost impossible to find a tv with component, even s-video

every fuckin trinitron is composite only
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Is it worth the hassle of procuring a decent CRT for a DIY cabinet?

Aside from light guns what are the biggest problems vs modern high refresh screens?
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>>5739791
So? Composite is awesome.
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>>5736996
>>5736995
Mitsubishi made nicer aperture grilles
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>>5740078
Based and Mitsupilled
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>>5740081
Everyone agrees
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>>5740056
Is it? I've never experienced component. Only vga from my old ass win xp computer.
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>>5740056
It’s acceptable on a crt and looks actually decent in that regard. My new looks just fine on my Sony trinitron
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>>5740105
My nes*
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>>5734286
doesn't look like a sync issue but just in case, did you use a sync stripper or at least a 470 ohm resistor on the sync line?
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>>5734286
BLACKED
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>>5740089
Composite with 240p scan lions is very soulful
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>>5740123
scanlines are the opposite of soul
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>>5740125
Delet this right now.
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>>5740134
eh, that's not too bad. usually when kids say scanlines and shit like soul they're talking about retard thick pvm scanlines.
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>>5739050
B&W tubes are unironically fantastic for 240p
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>>5740149
>thick lions
Never. Either subtle or none at all.
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>>5740149
There's nothing wrong with those either
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>>5740157
>Never. Either subtle or none at all.
i prefer none but i'll accept subtle
>>5740158
sorry but that looks like shit.
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>>5740158
I can understand why people might like this, especially if they grew up with RF rainbow puke, but for me the thick lines are distracting and the sprites are too crisp, at least for gen 3 to 5. Pic related has the same issues.
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>>5740084
>380w max power usage
WOO
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>>5740192
lady is qt though
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>>5738285
>>5738287
I would also like to note that the NES is hooked up though av to a powered s-video switcher
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>>5740114
No, I did not.
Think it might be that?
If so, I'll acquire one asap.
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>>5740204
great artist
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Any one around Philly/South Jersey/Delaware want my Sony 36fs120 for free?

Downsizing and I cant get rid of it (its super heavy and awkward). Front inputs are sketchy but all rear inputs work fine. Here it is with the rare Gamecube Component cables.

quiethumor at gmail

I just want it to go to a good home (and to not have to pay movers just to throw it away).
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is the NEC MultiSync FP950 any good
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>so many people modding their old consoles for HDMI and throwing out the CRT
I still have hope
i'm keeping it lit and old school
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>>5739308
fuckn sick
damn
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>>5736663
Goldeneye Fucking Bangs my dude
also Perfect Dark
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Have any of you dealt with a 40"? I really want to see how my games look on it, but fuck me. 40" is fucking huge. I can barely lift my 27" without breaking a sweat.
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>>5739308
i set the same exact crt out by the curb. no thanks
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>>5742969
who are you not thanking? he showed pics of it in action, looks really good
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>>5742856
yep i'm pretty stoked about it. i have never owned a sony tv set before, best i had before this was a JVC.

pic related is the JVC i still have in a different room.
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>>5742816
Should be fine for Windows games. Anything earlier will not go well.
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>>5742957
The TV I just got is 36" and it weighs 215 pounds. If you get a TV that big don't even try to move it by yourself.
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>>5743380
don't try lifting it either, at least not for more than getting it in and out of a vehicle and on/off the stand. an appliance dolly should be used for such heavy items. it astounds me how few people have basic moving knowledge and will complain to hell and back about how hard moving shit is when there's very simple solutions.
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>>5737559
Best image in like the last two years.-
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>>5740149
>scanlines
Scan lions, now.
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>>5740167
You look like shit.

>>5740192
That looks amazing you tasteless fuck.
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>>5743473
>You look like shit.
i've tried the whole thick scanline thing, found it really wasn't for me.
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>>5738519
retard
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>>5743626
Actually that was a based reply
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>>5743516
Dayum. What Trini is this?
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>not keeping your CRT on a marble pillar
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>>5743737
>implying that isn't plaster with a wooden core
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>>5743737
Anon that's obviously not marble, and since it's sitting on a nice wooden floor it's probably not molded concrete either, which would leave resin. What kind of white trash garbage puts their crt on a resin pillar?
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>>5743721
it's a samsung 955df, so not a trinitron at all and kind of a shitty pc monitor actually.



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