Which controller do you use when emulating retro games? Does anyone know of a high-qualtiy Genesis controller clone for that purpose?
>>5494617Here you go.http://retro-bit.com/sega-collaboration
>>5494638interdasting, thank you
>>5494617I bought the m30 2,4g. It beats any of my saturn or md pads. Stellar pad.
>>5494670Same. I really like it, man.
How does the HORI Fighting Commander compare to the saturn controller?
>>5494617I use a PS4 controller you fucking nerds.
>>5494714>set the controller down>triggers activate epic
I'd buy the genesis mini just for the controllers that come with it.
>>5494828underrated controller. works great and feels good for emulating everything on a wii
>>5494828I'm designing what i think will be the perfecr retro gamepad, ps4 controller dimensions and triggers, overall shape is halfling of snes and genesis gamepad, genesis d-pad, snes-like buttons (convex and concave) but it has 6 face buttons, shoulder buttons are just like snes and has analogs with concave tops, the design is still on work before i can take it to the 3d printer but is a steady work
I have a controller collection. I use the original controller to the system I'm emulating. It's as far as being an original hardware fag that I'll go
>>5494617Not rich enough to get into controller collecting, so I just use my DS4 for everything. Before that it was a DS3.
I like the Hyperkin GN6 controller. There's a USB version of it as well.
>>5494617Question for you guys, do you know any good usbcontroller with separated DPAD like original ps1?(Would go for PS3/4 but heard about severe problems with drivers)
>>5495145I used that original controller as well as a PS2 one with a USB converter and it worked fine.
>>5495145>Would go for PS3/4 but heard about severe problems with driversJust get a semi-decent USB bluetooth dongle + a DS4. Then you install DS4Windows and forget about everything as it just makes it act as an average XInput controller system wide, no hassle at all.https://github.com/Ryochan7/DS4WindowsDS3 is discontinued and you won't find a genuine unused one anywhere anymore. Chink knock-offs suck ass, don't bother.
>>5494828doesn't it lack analog triggers though? I heard the switch pro does. I guess I'm gonna go get a DS4 pad. Using a DS3 for ages now.
>>5495189this. good advice. I'm still using SCP server but a DS3 is probably a bit harder to find these days. the setup wasn't too difficult but you should own a USB type b cable.
>>5494704Considering this pad for emulation. Seems decent, but I heard the R1 R2 front buttons are placed too close to the edge of the controller for some.
Xbox S-type is easily modified for standard USB and just works with linux distros (Windows requires a driver package and some fiddling but is doable).
>>5494617pic related with usb adapter
>>5494670Any idea how the SN30 is? I want to get it, but read a lot of complains about the dpad.
I can't wall jump for shit with my Xbox pad I think it always wants to go diagonal...
>>5494617When I can, all original controllers hooked up to a Bliss-Box. If not that then a DS4.
>>5494859This is making me hard, anonPlease make a thread about it here when you get a chance
>>5494617I use a Dualshock 3 for the most part. I also have a set of USB retro controllers I got for $40, and they're shockingly high quality.
>>5495145>separated DPAD like original ps1Were they actually separate buttons though? I never owned a PSX but I have a PS Classic controller and there's clearly only one piece of material for all four directions
>>5494781>3 button US padDisgusting
>>5495218>doesn't it lack analog triggers though?yesnormal classic controler has analog shoulder-buttons.>>5495552>Were they actually separate buttons though?no
>>5495363The m30 d-pad is phenomenal. No idea about their snes pad.
>>5495552Yeah, uder shell its one material, but separation like that prevented any accidental press of 2 buttons, so polar opposite of Genesis Dpad.I had few usb controllers and some dpads are so shit that you cannot hold right without accidentally pressing up/down, so I just got idea that maybe something like PS controller would work better - dpad wise
>>5495714It depends on the game you're playing but there are different ways to use a dpad and certain designs work better for certain play styles. If you have a controller with a Genesis-style pad, don't lift up your entire thumb and press it down again on a different part of the pad. Instead, keep your thumb in the center, pretend it's a joystick, and rock around to the different directions you want to input. This is harder or easier to do depending on how much tactile feedback you have when you change directions. I have a Sega replica thing where you can feel a direction change absolutely every time, and there are no spurious diagonals like on most controllers. On my Dualshock 4 and PS Classic controller, it's a lot harder to tell when I'm changing directions, so I avoid using them for dpad-critical games.
$20 AmazonI like it
>>5495218The fact that it doesn't have analog triggers is a huge selling point to me.
Wii Classic Controller
Anything wrong with 8bitdo controllers? They look promising.
>>5494617An original satun controller. If i need analogue sticks i just use an old 360 pad.
ps2 controller + tomee usb adapter
Sony SCPH-1080 (the PS1 controller w/out analogs) connected to the PC via converter. It's enough for me.
>>5495834They're required for Gamecube emulation, e.g. in Metroid Prime.
>>5494617Depends. I cycle between a Saturn controller, ASCII Pad FT, Fight Commander, and 360 controller. All with adapters. The first 3 for anything involving 2D and/or fightan games, the last for anything 3D.
Oh boy this gave me a boner, sega d-pad, snes form factor and gc face buttons
>>5496174That looks a lot like the HORI gamecube gameboy player controller.
>>5494617I use PS1 or 2 controllers with a usb adapter.
>>5495137Same, these feel great, especially for how affordable they are. Also got the 9 pin ones to replace my og Genesis pads because the buttons on my og pads are completely worn the hell out, spongey and vague as fuck.
>>5494828Such a great controller
>>5495887Their SNES-style controllers are very accurate imitations, except that the D-pads are more prone to accidental diagonal inputsConsider doing the tape modI haven't heard anything bad about the M30 but I don't own one so I can't say it's good either
>>5495563Why? If you wanted to play a game like Street Fighter there's a controller for that, otherwise 3 button layout was fine, you dumb foreigner.
>>5494670>the wife and i>8shitdo10/shill
>>5495137these were the best genesis cons before the new retrobits. just like the buffalos were before the snes classic cons
>>5495145>>5495319um i think you can still get a ps classic for $25 and get two of these without needing a usb adapter. plus you can hack the console and have something a little more powerful than a pi3 as a nice bonus
>>5495363dpad a shit but can be fixed by replacing the dpad with a real snes one or a knockoff with a more accurate rocker to the original, or you can put hole reinforce rs over the pcb contactsor you can do what I did and call up Nintendo, tell them your dog ate one of your snes classic controller s and buy one for $10+$5shipping. then you either get a raphnet usb adapter (which will work with nes classic cons too) or get the 8bitdo snes classic wireless conversion kit which doesn't fuck with the dpad at all
Since I mostly play snes games, I use an 8bitdo sfc30, with the buttons and rubbers switched from an official controller.
>>5494617I don't remember these having red lettering. The only ones I remember are like the OP's with just white and black.
I've been getting into using these but my Wii-USB adapter seems to read the d-pad as both the d-pad and button inputs.Dunno what that's about.
>>5496873The red letters are because of a promotional agreement with Red Letter Media.
>>5496873Launch model Genesis had red lettering. I believe there were actually 3 different versions of the original 3 button Genesis pad.
>>5496756let's get this right, I'm using a ps1 controller with a usb adapter because that's what I had lying around, don't think I actually bought both off ebay or amazon I already had these. If I had to buy a brand new controller I'd buy a hori commander
>>5495145>>5495189Can confirm. I bought a DS4 to use with my PC and it just works. Couldn't be easier. Apparently it works without drivers in a few programs, but I installed DS4Windows for XInput support. Also, it has surprisingly low latency over Bluetooth.
>>5494781Is that the one with the queer allegory comic book game you can't complete on it?
>>5496756The question is, are they actually good controllers? On par with original?
>>5495886>>5494828>>5494851>>5494859>>5495218>>5496240I think I can do ya one better, boys
>>5497695That might be good for modern games but fuck that for retro gaming.
>>5495189>>5497236Yeah, the DS3 was trash, but the DS4 is solidI thought I would hate the redesign but it's actually a lot more comfortable to holdBesides, since you can buy it new, you don't have to open it up and change the battery just to get it working
Is that saturn controller with analog sticks up for sale yet?
>>5497306Yes, well, they're good by Sony shit standards.
Is this the most aesthetic looking retro style controller for 2D games ever made? It honestly looks perfect tbqh.
>>5494670>It beats any of my saturn or md pads. Stellar pad.LOLtwo options here, 8bitdo employee or a troll.Specially now that Retro-bit is releasing the new USB controllers that look awesome.
>>5498710Its a god sent. Been playing with it for 2 weeks now. I got the 2.4g one. The bluetooth one might be crap due to ridiculous lag.
>>5499210That is a shame then. They should make a wired USB one for PC. Wireless will always have some inherent lag. Not sure why wireless became the standard so much for gaming.
currently using a ds4 which is great, but Ill get rid of it when I sell my ps4>>5494828d-pad is appallingthe ridges in the analog pits make up for it to an extent though>>5496245I like thisI was thinking of getting pic related for max kino
How's the Switch Pro controller? For retro and modern.
>>5494828junk d-pad nintendo has been making shitty d-pads for longer than they made good ones.
>>5500193Just take it apart and clean it the right way you clown
>>5496217These Hyperkin controllers feel better built than the originals ever did.
>>5500089I think the CC dpad is the best one Nintendo ever made, it's up there in my favorites.
>>5497730I use mine for both old and new games and its perfect. D-pad is great, it has four shoulder buttons and no triggers, and unlike wii one, wiiU has clickable analog sticks(l3/r3) so its perfect for ps1 and ps2 emulation. It also has 80h battery life, so unlike something like DS4 you dont need to charge it every time you use it. Personally I think its the perfect controller.
>>5499413>They should make a wired USB one for PCit already does that, you can use it as wired controller via usb-c cable
>>5494617>Logitech F710 Wireless Gamepad Works perfectly. Never had a single issue with it for all the years I've owned it.
Picked this up for 3 bucks not long ago. It's cheaply engineered and the cord is awful, but the D-pad is good, sticks don't have unreasonable deadzones, and buttons are responsive. Plus it's kinda big and comfy. On top of that I'm nostalgic over this thing because I used to emulate 64 games with it when I was a teenager.
>>5500793Mine wasn't Phillips-branded, but I got one of these like 12 or 13 years ago. I still have it somewhere.
>>5494828Cancer 8 direction analog. Brainlets Choice Award.
>>5494751That's why you pause first.
>>5500752I had the F510 which is the same as the 710 but not wireless. it was awful after a while. I remember playing Dark Souls and randomly smacking friendly npcs because it had a fucked up right trigger issue suddenly for no reason so it would spur that input randomly without me even touching it.the whole d-pad also waggles and is kinda loose. so yeah, the analog triggers are jammed somehow and the d-pad is okay but a bit loose. never had these issues with my ds3.
>>5496245I have one of those. It's fucking difficult to hit diagonals to the point where jumping forward on fighting games is a pain in the ass. I replaced the pads, I cleaned the fuck out of that, I used 30 methods and it just blows.
>>5500971Yeah, I know these were branded or licensed under a few different names. There was even a black or dark grey one IIRC. I really do like the controller but I hate the stupid cord and gimmick. I thought about replacing the cord and soldering in a regular USB cord instead but accessing those points is needlessly difficult thanks to the retractable gimmick.
anyone have any experience with pic related?
>>5502276i have one its not bad
>>5502279but not too good?Im a sucker for transparent controllers but I dont like the look of the dpad on this
>>5502142What about leaving the cord retracted and getting an extension?
>>5499064>Specially now that Retro-bit is releasing the new USB controllers that look awesome.Two options here, Retro-bit employee or an idiot
>>5501997The F710 has none of those issues.
>>5502584Yeah anon, right.
>>5500752From 2006 to 2010, I went through two Logitech mx518s and countless of their usb headsets (forget the model). After my second 518 and broke I swore that I would never give that cheap garbage nigger company money ever again. The Razer Lachesis that I bought to replace my second 518 has been going strong for 9 years.
>>5502316That's not a bad idea, anon. Something I might do somewhere down the line.
>>5495563>the 6 button pad that was hardly usedFor what, fighting game ports? You should be playing the arcade version with a fightstick.
Are there any controllers with a d-pad similar to the Wii U Pro Controller's but with larger face buttons?
>>5494670Can I somehow use this or any genesis/saturn style pad on my Wii?
>>5502830I know that Nintendont on Wii supports USB controllers but I don't think any emulators do.
>>5502825wii pro controller but it requires wiimote(""wireless""), or usb adapter(wired), it also lacks l3&r3 and analogs has limited range.
>>5495784What brand? How awful are the deadzones?
>>5495363I've heard 8BitDo controllers d-pads can be pretty bad except for M30s.
>>5499210I've got the bluetooth one, I had a wireless mouse that interfered with the signal, but after I ditched that it's worked flawlessly, no noticeable lag.
>>5502856do the usb adapters work on the wii?
>>5503434Break millions more so they become rare and expensive.
>>5503392no, you might have luck on wiiU as its homebrew has some support for usb controllers(haven't tested that personally since wiiU pro controller is perfection). Another option would be adapters either from wiimote, or from gamecube ports. Problem is that only raphnet-tech makes such adapters and they are expensive because that guy is the only one making them.
>>5494859Will it have four shoulder buttons and clickable analog sticks?
>>5496883Fucking hack frauds.>>5501292Playing console games with a keyboard is misery IMO. I have no fucking idea how I beat Super Metroid with a keyboard as a kid, but I'm not going back to that.
>>5504350>I have no fucking idea how I beat Super Metroid with a keyboardI beat Super Mario 64 with a keyboard specifically because one of my friends in school told me>it can't be done because you can't spin bowser with the keyboardI was like yeah right bitch
>>5494617For up to and including 16-bit machines: original SNES pad + Super Smartjoy.
>>5504364You did it, but was it nearly as comfortable as with a controller?
>>5500752>>5501997>>5502638>>5502789Used to have a Logitech F series controller (can't remember the model number) and it was alright for modern games with its X-input but the D-pad was aweful, especially for emulation. I sold it before it would've broken on me.>>5500294I've seen this one being shilled a lot on this board but is it really as good as the shills say or would something like the 8-bit do controllers that >>5495887 and >>5496249 talk about? I'm fine with emulating on my current controller or using an original SNES controller through a USB adaptor but I think it could be nice when I'm on vacation or something.
>>5505460If you're planning to game on an iPhone you need a dedicated "Made for iOS" controller. If you're on Android or PC, the easiest thing to find with the best build quality is a Dualshock 4.8BitDo's main selling points are compatibility with retro consoles (for custom 2.4GHz models) and the Switch (for Bluetooth models). They can be used in wired mode on a PC, but in wireless mode their input lag is particularly bad. If what you're after is authentic-looking replicas of old controllers, be aware that they stopped making those for legal reasons, and they're getting hard to find. Some other brands like Retroflag still make very accurate USB replicas of old controllers.
>>5505493I'd probably play my controller wired to my laptop anyway so I guess those 8-bit do's don't sound too bad. I haven't heard of retroflag before so I'll google for that later. Thanks for the reply anon.
I have an 8bitdo SN30. It's like a SNES controller, but with dual analogue sticks and dual shoulder buttons (like a PSX controller). I lurves it.... the Dpad and face buttons feel EXACTLY like a real SNES controller. Like, spot-on.