DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>5357720DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/ETCGameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source PortsAll other retro FPS welcome~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~FAQ/PASTEBINhttp://pastebin.com/hzDnLpctSO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendationsSame thing, but in video format:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXMPortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releasesQuake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFwDownloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Qhttps://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUADoom RPG serieshttps://doomrpg.weebly.com/Launchers for Build Engine gameshttp://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/== INFO/LINKS ==OFFICIAL DOOM WIKIhttp://doomwiki.org/WHERE TO FIND WADSVanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/TUTORIALS/UTILITIEShttps://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0RESOURCEShttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==THREAD ARCHIVEShttps://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLYhttps://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7IMAGE DATABASEhttp://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=listOUR WADShttp://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzShttp://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K
=== NEWS ===[2-10] Evilternity updated to final releasehttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103425-final-release-eviternity/[2-9] BTSX E3 screenshotshttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/104557-back-to-saturn-x-episode-3-wip/[2-9] Quake2XP receives an updatehttps://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-2-xp/downloads/quake2xp-1269-beta2[2-8] Sunder and Deus Vult II resume developmenthttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/45774-dvii-second-edition-underway-its-time/?do=findComment&comment=1960915https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/46002-sunder/?do=findComment&comment=1961207[2-8] XLEngine on Githubhttps://github.com/Mindwerks/XLEngine[2-8] New DBP project: Mindblood Genesishttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/104171-mindblood-genesis-dbp08-released-a-limit-removing-project-from-doomer-boards/[2-5] Doomba - Roombas used for mappinghttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103677-roomba-mod-will-map-your-house-and-then-make-it-into-a-doom-map/[2-3] Anon map release: SCRAPhttps://www.mediafire.com/file/1cbnp4m1c9w1auu/SCRAP.wad/file[2-2] Neural-upscaled textures for Quake 2https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/quake-2-upscaled-pack[1-26] Odamex 0.8.0 released, now using SDL2https://odamex.net/boards/index.php/topic,3182.0.html?PHPSESSID=vtj14rfqgmd8se632212rcooq4[1-22] Hexen Neural Upscale textureshttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103770-hexen-neural-upscale-08012018/[1-22] BloodGDX v0.798 releasedhttps://m210.duke4.net/index.php[1-22] SM191 for Quake, a mapset inspired by classichttp://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61678[1-21] Trenchboom adds experiment support for Quake IIIhttps://github.com/kduske/TrenchBroom/releases[1-21] GZDoom 3.7.2 released:https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=63346=== PREVIOUS ===https://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT=== PROTIP ===To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.
first for daikatana
>>5363763guncaster: timewarpgoes back in time to the old weapon designs and character
>>5363571I've been thinking about this for a long time. I could at least make the port draw to the screen. Drawable textures are something Graf has [No]'d already despite how many of us want them. GZDoom already does have camera textures, and they pretty much work in a similar way to what we want, except rather than drawing a camera, we'd just draw images and text and whatnot. It doesn't look like it'd take much work to get this done for someone who knows that part of the engine (which I don't).I guess it's just not a priority™.
I've combed through hundreds of these threads and I've compiled a list of the 20 most popular artists to listen to while playing Doom:BlixemiCandlemassCocteau TwinsDean BluntDevin TownsendEnyaFunkadelicGenesisGuided By VoicesJay-ZKing CrimsonNine Inch Nails (only instrumental stuff)NirvanaoOoOOPaul AnkaSummoningType O NegativeVelvet UndergroundVince StaplesXiu Xiu
Overpowered Dragon VS Nazis in space.
>>5363913I'd watch that film
>>5363910almost all of these would be horribly distractingonly like instrumental stuff like synthwave or industrial would work
>>5363910I only listen to MIDI music while playing DOOM
>>5363910I listen to my playlist on Spotify and that's it
>>5363924you haven't lived unless you listen to KMFDM while dooming
4 days to mid february John.
>>5363949not him, but any recs from them?
>>5363910I like to listen to some Meshuggah while playing Doom.It really sets the mood.
>>5363910>No Death GripsOne job.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0oD3r1nNMs
I guess I should expect as much but if you play Strife with Guncaster, all Cygnis does is snark his way through the journey!
>>5363949Only if there are MIDI versions available
>>5363961wow, he's so cool!! xD
>>5363959Death Grips was number 21
What's your favourite Remixes/Covers of Retro Shooters?Mine:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H87H4m5wgTc&t=52shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReYPAne45MEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR4Qi02srAEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rD8kyE286E
>>5363976Every ProDoomer© and gentleman should cultivate a full and dignified beard.
Sigil will be here any minute now
>>5363998>says increasingly nervous man for seventh time this day
>>5363986I would if I could
>>5363998>>5364002It's not like Romero is known for releasing on time when he's in charge.
>>5363998>>5363951i'm looking forward to people getting angry when john romero doesn't meet their own made-up deadline
With all the extra wads that come with Strife on Steam, what loadout am I supposed to use in ZDL?
>>5364029> E N O G H
>>5364029Is it really necessary to fetishize daemons?
So I'm new to GMOTA.I've just been playing it and doing my own thing, but I don't know if I'm playing it "right". Are there any videos you'd recommend of someone playing through a tough WAD with it so I get an idea of what the mod is capable of? I think my playstyle with it might be very boring compared to what you can get away with.
>>5364058Looks like its from the guy who did this H Doom
>>5364058It is.He helped making these sprites.
>>5364029>>5364058Probably a stupid question but, how do you see Basilissa in third person?
>>5364029>>5364058I'm not going on a rant now because it could hurt the fee-fees of some precious anons
>>5364094type chase in console
>>5364097No,go ahead.Let's hear your opinion.
Damn, I love Eviternity so far. The level design is just so classic and fun, the aesthetics of a cool Gothic/Quake-esque style, and the gameplay is exciting but not punishingly difficult, unlike the usual "Hey look a thousand Revenants popped out" stuff.
>>5363910>Jay-Z>King Crimson>Nine Inch Nails>Genesisi get these but>Enya>Funkadelic>Paul Anka>Cocteau Twinswhy?
>>5364097thanks for announcing
>>5364112>unlike the usual "Hey look a thousand Revenants popped out" stuff.Oh boy, wait until you reach the later levels.
>>5364124He said "most popular" not "best"
>>5364097>i'm totally above this>but i HAVE to let people know that
>>5364156It's probably the retard from the end of last thread, anyway.
Finished Good Morning Phobos.Map 29 had like 900 enemies but besides that, it was fun.I feel like replaying it with TrailBlazer and CH.
>>5364141> double barrel pump action shotgunalways love to see them
>>5363875On a power ranking, top being most OP and bottom being least OP, how would you rank these gameplay mods, according to how powerful they make the player character? If they offer options to make enemies more powerful as well, ignore those, we're only talking about the player character here. If a mod offers various characters/loadouts, you may rank them separately. Assuming default settings on all mods, though you may comment on how they play after fiddling with settings as well if you want.List:>Combined Arms>DAKKA>Faspons>Final Doomer>GMOTA>Heretical Doom>High Noon Drifter>MSFixd>Necrodoom>Project Brutality>Russian Overkill>Trailblazer>Weapons of SaturnI'm interested in getting a wide range of opinions from /doom/ on this.
>>5364191>according to how powerful they make the player character?high noon drifter is kind of difficult to put on this given the damage/defense sliders
>>5364197>Assuming default settings on all mods
>>5364191>Russian Overkillthis automatically goes into the STUPIDLY OP tier, my dude .. which is the point of the mod
>>5364202I know, I include it in the list because I expect it to be at the top of it, as a frame of reference.
>>5364025While waiting for a reply to this, is there a port of Dark Forces that allows mid-level saves?
>>5364191Russian Overkill TrailblazerHigh Noon Drifter - although mostly level headed, the Staff and everything about Basilissa break any ordinary limits and put you into death incarnate categoryFinal Doomer - Doomguy is pretty bonkers, plus some specific guns of other "characters" tend to show some ludicrous performance, but on average it's fairly balanced.Combined Arms - there is a lot of nearly infinite decently high firepower, especially the rocket launcher that is sustainable with barely a pair of rocket crates, but nothing really game breakingGMOTA - honestly I've never felt too powerful, although I feel that it just isn't a mod for meMSF - the are some definitely powerful weapons at you disposal, but you yourself is nothing more than a wet tissue paper, this holds your powerlevel way back Most of the remaining list I havent touch in a while, so I did not list them.
>>5364226Which would you say is more OP between the Combined_Arms loadout and the Blastmaster MKII (both from CA obviously)
>>5364230Oh fuck, I kinda forgot about Blastmaster entirely, honestly I'm not even sure if I actually played the version with him or not.
>>5364191extreme weapons pack.
found a bunch of old fps stuff mixed into the CDs at goodwill today. looks like somebody really liked their expansion packs, i never even heard of a couple of these.
>>5364280>Dark Forces 2>System Shock 1>Unreal 1>OutlawGood deal anon
Speaking of which,what do you think of System Shock 1,anons?
>>5364230Oh, nevermind, had a bit of a refresher, definitely Combined Arms, shotgun alternate fire alone is enough to win me over.
>>5364307Amazing, but only after you install the mouselook mod.Trying to learn to play SS1 purely vanilla is just really not worth your time. Its keybinds and controls by default are, to this day, the most obstuse I've ever seen. Mouselook mod completely fixes that.
>>5364025Strife as an iwad (or sve.wad) and voices.wad as a pwad. You can also zip the music folder that comes with veteran edition and have that in your zdl load order too for higher quality music.
>>5364052As long as demons are dying and you're not dying, you're playing just fine. Make sure to consult the F1 help screens though, that'll help a lot.
>>5364240You're actually playing as the same character with both weapon sets, that weirdo with the blue bubble helmet. He just jams that other helmet on with the Blastmaster set.Also getting the berserk upgrade with the Blastmaster puts it into highly OP territory
Noob quake question:Why is it that some maps like Nyarlathotep's sand castle tell you to drop them into the already existing Arcane Dimensions directory, and other map packs like XMASJam2018 tell you to make a directory exclusive to it with its own version of Arcane Dimensions in it?
>>5364331What mod is this?
>>5364425one comes with AD assets prepacked, the other doesn't
>>5364457Clearly, but what I mean to ask I guess is, can I just drop the XMASJam maps into my existing AD folder as well and have it work?
>>5364430A massive update to the TurokDoom mod from 2008. (yes the weapons are 3d)
>>5364459will probably cause issuesjust follow instructions, theyre there for a reason
>>5364468>>5364474Not publicly available I take it?
>>5364478At least not until a decent enemy set is in place.
>>5364486Hell on Earth Starter Pack.
>>5364323I'm playing the enhanced edition with the source port update and yes it's awesome. It's pretty difficult but it's so satisfying.The ost is great too.
>>5364497Are you going to include the guns from other Turok games other than the 1st one?
>>5364331>>5364468>>5364474>>5364497This looks great, can't wait for the public release.
listening to doom music while coding makes you type faster
>>5364507All guns from original mod plus more.
>look at old ass PSX games>think to myself I could easily recreate that or get close with Doom>never actually commit, just imagineand that my friends is why I have yet to figure out how to procrastinate
>>5364331>>5364468>>5364474>>5364497>>5364506>>5364509Damn! Its lookin good! Turok had such great guns. Does this mod include the Cerebral Bore? That was pretty metal
>>5364519uh to stop procrastrinatiumate is what I mean
>>5364521>Does this mod include the Cerebral Bore?Not planned unless I find someone that can code it properly.
Any Linux guys using Quakespasm here?I'm having a bit of a problem that I'm almost certain has to do with case-sensitive filenames. I'm trying to play Beyond Belief with Qspasm, but I'm getting the "Couldn't spawn server maps/bbstart.bsp" type of messages. I figured maybe it was because the map inside the PAK was called BBSTART, so I tried that as well, and I got the same error. Tried Bbstart, BBstart, nothing.Could you guys help me out? Absolutely none of the other many maps I've tried has given me problems like this.
>>5363875rock and roll will never die
>>5364519>>5364523I'm in your position but for learning how to create maps, it's been one month since I'd supposedly learn how to do it but I'm kicking it more and more
>>5363875Quake Ranger's first name is Steph, according to the digital copy of Quake 1 I got and use via DOSBOX.
>>5364531NEVERMIND I just figured it out, I'm a dummy. Just had to rename PAK0.PAK to pak0.pak hurr.
>>5364531>>5364557Oh yeah. Absolutley EVERYTHING has to be lower case. Expect some 'couldn't find Start.bsp' in usermaps because Windowsfags can't into case sensitivity. Sad truth is you might be better off booting to Windows.
>>5364572>Sad truth is you might be better off booting to Windows.Nah. When trying to figure out what I was doing wrong I found this, which luckily lets you extract and look at the guts of pak files, so you can see if the author was clueless about filename conventions and fix it yourselfhttps://github.com/yquake2/pakextractThat's why I was going nuts over "this extracted file shows the map names are lowercase, so what gives? I'm doing it right", and I dunno why I didn't think to rename the actual pak file to lowercase til now.
>>5364578>so you can see if the author was clueless about filename conventions and fix it yourselfWon't help you much if you're playing an episode and the next level trigger tries to load Map2 instead of map2. Means you'll be shotgun starting a lot or losing any hub based progress (like the runes system).
>>5364587WAKE ME UP.I mean, I guess if there was a mapset that I was dying to play and this was the case, it wouldn't be so hard to fix the level triggers. Kinda wish Quakespasm would have some command to ignore cases and treat Map2 and map2 as the same file for that sort of thing, but oh well
do any ppl still play half-life death match? i used to love that cuz it had some weird weapons that were p sick like the lazer gun that if u charged up could shoot through walls, those bugs you could dump on assholes, and sniping with the silent crossbow, kinda tempted to cop it on steam and see if anyones still online
>>5364124Cocteau Twins is perfect for wads like Epic 2 and Sunlust
>>5364553Where does it say, my dude
>>5364618When you get killed by an enemy.
what are some essential quake mods to play? just played through arcane dimensions, pretty decent overall although the secret finding was a little ridiculous at some points, especially boggy
Is it possible to play the regular Quake episodes or maps made for vanilla Quake through AD?Going back to hitscan shotguns after playing with AD's projectile shotguns feels weird
>>5364678Oh shit you CAN!Just loaded up E1M1 through AD and it just werks with the modified enemies. Neat.
>>5364621whoever uploaded your pirated copy goes by the name Steph
>>5364668Soul Of Evil, Travail, Honey, all of the func_mapjams and retrojams (I especially like retrojam6 and func_mapjam2 for their themes)
>>5364668Altar of StormsBeyond BeliefHoneyTer ShibbolethTravailSomething Wicked This Way ComesHalloween JamXMASJam 2018The Zombie's HouseAnd in case you haven't played them, the 3 mission packs are pretty solid too (Scourge of Armaggon by Hipnotic, Dissolution of Eternity by Rogue, and Dimension of the Past by Gearbox)
How do you guys feel about Quake 1.5?
>>5364668Contract Revoked and Map Jam 9 are personal favorites of mine.
>>5363875It kinda amazes me that the texture set that Eviternity uses, OTEX, started in development 20 years ago.
Is there a console command for Quake 1 that disables auto-switching on weapon pickup? It really annoys me
In my timeline id Software was sued for using all those popular metal songs withou a license.
Anyone else think Eternity is an underrated source port?
>>5363910For me, it's-the actual doom music-slayer-bathory-autopsy-demolition hammer-youtube gabber playlists-venom-discharge-early carcass-iggy and the stooges
Do you think Doom and Quake will be forever relevant and timeless? Will some toddlers born today end up being the Quakedads of tomorrow, or will the Quakedads become extinct in time?
>>5364772no, that behavior is defined in the QuakeC codeyou could patch it out for the base game easily, but then would need to do it again and differently for each mod you play
>>5364912y u do this carmack
rate my impossible geometry(in case you hadn't seen it in the build thread)
Kegan, if you are reading these threads - know that a bug exists in GMOTA that makes any mourning star's balls to fall through walls if shot at that angle.
>>5364961Probably a weirdness with how the rebound balls are spawned, it's a harmless visual quirk, the weapon should function the same regardless.
>>5364943Pretty neat.Needs more floor and ceiling height variation, as a map goes, though. imo
>>5364943I'm more amazed you managed to fit a webm of this quality and length under 3MB
>>5364983non-euclidean data storage
>>5364943This is cool. If I may ask however>BUILD threadWhy? Isn't this thread supposed to encompass all retro FPS discussion anyway?
>>5365038People see "DOOM THREAD" and go somewhere else.
Do many people in the Doom community like Guided By Voices?
>>5365038>Why? Isn't this thread supposed to encompass all retro FPS discussion anyway?does it really matter?people make other doom threads, too
>>5365079For some reason, the Build threads appear to be set to auto-sage after some time. Don't know what the fuck is up with that.
>>5363910I like to blast Hotline Miami 1 + 2 soundtrack while playing fast paced shit like D4T or big arsenal mods
I hate Doom 3 so fucking much
>>5365193...I don't mind Doom 3. It definately wasn't the Doom I wanted, but at the end of the day I got some mileage of that game. On its own terms, it's passable.
Where can I get the latest vanilla version of Team Fortress? How do I setup a server for it? I want to play it with some friends.
>>5365197the only fun I got out of it was doom 3 coop with my friendswe had friendly fire on, we had grenades, and we weren't afraid to use them (even in elevators)
I want a DAKKA analogue for Heretic.
>>5365193I think it's ok. Go for the chainsaw for max fun.
>>5365197I disagree. There's nothing wrong with the concept of a horror-focused Doom game, but it's not actually atmospheric or scary. It feels like a haunted house with the constant "surprise" enemy encounters and cheesy evil laughter. And they didn't get the action right either, it's incredibly unsatisfying. The worst of both worlds.
>>5365220>There's nothing wrong with the concept of a horror-focused Doom gameI will say that.I think Doom 3 was overall ok as a shooter (improves with a flashlight mod), and while I think a horror flavored Doom could work just fine, Doom 3 doesn't really have a particularly strong or refined grasp on horror, which is why that aspect falls so flat. The game really shouldn't have bothered much at all with trying to be scary, and instead have focused more on making the run-n-gun action better.
>>5365234Can't be an OK shooter if the most basic aspect (shooting) falls flat on its face
>>5365261Well the shotgun sucks, but like overall I think the action is decent.I want to again stress that the chainsaw makes the game much more fun.
>>5364331>>5364468>>5364474The models look like hot garbage, ruining everything else.
>>5365070I think Essel is a fan, considering Back to Saturn X.
>>5363910Other than the normal thrash/metal, I put on old fighting game music. Pure fucking magic I tell you.
GZDoom 3.7.0 added "NOFRICTION and NOFRICTIONBOUNCE flags", but they don't seem to be on the wiki.
>>5365382>that one maid bot
>>5365382Wtf is fireblu? I keep seeing this term.
>>5365414I'd have added them to the wiki myself, but guess what you can't fucking register a wiki account for some stupid reasonNOFRICTION disables the effects of friction on the actor it's on, including the effects of ice/sludge floors on your speed and the whole "capped speed in water" bullshit. unfortunately, it doesn't do anything about the buoyancy code; there's another pull request on the gzdoom github that'll deal with that (exposes the code that applies gravity/water sinking to zscript, in the form of the function FallAndSink(double gravity, double oldfloorz)).NOFRICTIONBOUNCE merely disables the behavior where if you collide with a wall fast enough with a higher friction value (higher = slipperier), you bounce off of it rather than just stopping.
>>5365423A texture.It's gotten some infamy for the fact that it looks kind of ugly and garish, and for the fact that for video recording and streaming, the bright colors, the spotty pattern, and the blinking, fucking wrecks your bitrate (due to how encoders work), and for as long as it's on screen, your video/stream will look like 2005 era Youtube videos, even if you're recording in like 4k.
>>5364668By posting here you are obliged to play QUMP.
>>5365424>>5365429Is that from the original game or did a modder came up with this?
>>5365442have you even played doom
>>5365442Have you actually played Doom?
>>5365447doom is for DORKS
>>5365442It's literally in the first game.E3M6 has it right at the start, how have you not seen it? It's kind of an unforgettable texture.>>5365450Then what's your excuse?
>>5365326>Back to Saturn X.This shit again.
DOOM! Tetris for John ass.
>>5365470You'd be surprised how many people don't go much further than Ep1.
>>5365530is pillows fursona the only mod that exists nowadays
>>5365567I'm a little confused at the "unverisal" title here too, I guess it's universal in a reversed sense.
>>5365560We call those people plebeians.
>>5365572It means you can play it every monster mod, minus PB and BD ones because they are already in the mod, and every wad exclusive monsters(ex. Valiant).
>>5365567It's a fun mod, that's all. We don't talk about it that much in these threads.
>>5365530Cygnis but as a female. And by that I mean an Alternate Universe version of him as a female.
>>5365426I've seen a few mods make use of NOFRICTION to use their own movement, namely ijon's Quake Movement and Marisa's Doom Tournament. Unfortunately it heavily breaks conveyor belt-style floors. (voodoo doll scripts would be broken too if voodoo dolls get the same physics)
>>5365426think you can forward one more thing about water physics?namely: automatic ledge climbingif you are in deep water of any depth and bump into a wall that has a ledge above it, at any height, you do an upwards hop as long as you are moving against the wallthing is it doesn't do any other checksso you'll attempt to hop on to a ledge that is either an impassable line or too highalso the buyoancy is weird when movement is introduced into the mixyou can swim and not sink while being ankle deep without touching the floor if you keep strafing>>5365608floor scrolling needs to be exposed to zscript too
>>5365608what map is this?
>>5365619its not furfaggotry if its not faggotryand only guys can be faggots
>>5365560I'll always assume this is why some people don't consider Doom's Hell iconic or interesting until they think Doom 4 had that muchof an interesting art direction
>>5365636if its a gal its fine
>>5365619Why do anthro-dragons have mammaries?Egg-laying species don't have them
>>5365642They could be sacs, I guess.
>>5365642> why does fictional thing
>>5365648proper fictional things tend to have certain basis behind them, even if it's just in-universe explanation.If they are "just because" that means it's a lazy trash fiction
>>5365652It doesn't, actually.
>>5364029YES YES YES
>>5365652> humanoid myth lizard
>>5365642For degenerates to fap to.
>>5365652perhaps she's technically a mammal that just has a reptilian appearance?
>>5365608I need to stop forgetting to check if Carry/Wind stuff can be exposed to ZScript.
>>5363952https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g62io1gnm4khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xap3w_xP8CYor just their entire discography on random
Used Nashgore along with Bratwurst.Basically the spectre Pinky is replaced with a ghost from Spear of Destiny and the blood is....yeah.
>>5365731I have to say, anyone who can blow a load so powerful it leaves a puddle that big, I have to respect them a little.
>>5365514What's wrong with Back to Saturn X?
Hot take:QUAKE's soundtrack is relatively...boring. There are only a few hype songs in the track list, and only a few good ambient tracks. The others just feel like repetitive drone, and they get reused a lot for all the episodes.
Russians are porting Doom to Half-Life engine (actually it's Xash3D which is basically opensource version of goldsrc). Just checked it. Only levels are ported (through conversion), there's no monsters, weapons and any objects yet.
>>5365814I'll actually agree on that.The menu theme is baller as fuck, but there's nothing else in the game which sounds like that, which is a shame.Great game, but it really could have used the more varied mix of tracks that Doom had, where you had some themes suited for fast actions, and then some slower melodic themes to build atmosphere.
>have everything planned out to make Doom into a top-down shooter>have no experience with Zscriptthis is gonna take a while
>>5365818But why?What's with russians and their obsession with trying to "update" doom?
>>5365818> half-life> quake hud and font
>>5365825Dunno. I checked the discussion and author told he does it "because he wants it for himself". You can download it here https://cs-mapping.com.ua/forum/showthread.php?t=39170&page=1&pp=20And translate the discussion.
>>5365840I think that's coz they already ported Quake (even one mission pack) to Xash3D. They didn't make a Doom hud yet so they simply took it from their Quake port. It's an alpha btw.
>>5365825Just seems like the usual 'port Doom into a game somehow' stuff to me, like how someone made a KF1 version of E1M1. If it was any 'update' project there'll be the usual hideous textures and models.
Another day with no Sigil news.
if hell-forged wasn't on your radar, it should be now
>>5365735>>5365736>>5365743Did I miss something important??
>>5365917What's that again?Also holy shit, nice sprites.
>>5365924furfags thinking their shit is acceptable
>>5365928> https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=13397the do-over version of Demon Eclipse
>>5365917Nice...could use more frames tho
>>5365447>>5365449Yeah, in 1994
>>5364531`unzip -L` is your friend
>>5365924ebin /v/ trolling, don't worry about it
>>5365825Russians, in my experience, often come from a standpoint that more real = more better. Almost to a point of morality. 3D is more real than 2.5D so it must be better. They make realistic texture mods for things that have no place being that way. Even their writing is often pessimistic or dark because it's unrealistic for a dangerous or adventurous situation to end well.That's just what I gleam from them though. Any Russians lemme know what's up.
>>5365964>Russian doom remake>Doomguy gets impaled by Satan himself at the end of Episode 1 and his soul is forced to watch Daisy get killed and revived over and over again in hell with no hope of eacape because lol what did you expect of a human going up against demons
>>5365908are you going to post this every day until romero meets your made-up deadline
>>5365964We Russians are straightforward and down-to-earth people. We understand that life is short and full of suffering, so we try to cut as much BS as possible. This is reflected in how we think, speak and act. You can observe it in our literature and art as well.
>>5365986>https://www.romerogames.ie/sigil/>The free megawad will be released in mid- February 2019 He's two days off being technically correct, Romero isn't known for releasing on time anyways.
>>5366000>two days off being technically correctmid february is any time between february 2nd to february 27thi, for one, look forward to people posting angrily en masse when it turns valentine's day and romero hasn't posted something
what if one of them randomizer mods has a rare drop from an enemy that is one of them floating runesexcept its a sigiland picking it up will warp you into the sigil map set
>>5366043>Guy releasing something free of charge>REEEEEEEE WHERE IS IT WHY ISNT IT OUT YETWhy are people like this?
>>5365931Anon simply put an image where the ectoplasm looked like jizz, nothing more
Do you think they should make a Remaster for Turok 3?
>>5365994That hurts me greatly. I realize that all the cultures in our world balance themselves in their own ways and we all have to deal, but what brings ease, peace and hope to a disillusioned Russian heart? Is there a place left for idealistic dreams? Do you think the suffering can stop if you try hard enough?
What if... There was a triple-barreled shotgun... But the third barrel was pointed backwards?So that when you shoot demons in front of you, you also shot demons behind you?
>>5366092Sure but you're still leaving two cardinal directions wide open with that design. What if you get flanked?
>>5366092bro! double chainsaw!
I'm making a neural upscale pack for Brutal Doom.
>>5365652I think there is like a universally accepted headcanon (or rather several of them) for why some lizards in various fiction have boobs or at least chest "sacks"It can be as simple as Sexual Dimorphism. Like, even if they don't have functional uses for tits, they still look curvy and attractive to males.Or maybe, if it's an amphibian, those can be air sacks, and females just choose they have their sacks poofed up when on land simply as a preference, or even to give to give the more humanoid species an easier way to differentiate between genders of the scalies.
>>5365964Ehh, not all Russians, come on. There are plenty of comrades that embraced 2D> pessimistic or dark Well, I mean, Russians still vividly remember the post-soviet times.While American 90s were the time Radical things and videogames and skateboards, for Russian it was "the Wild 90s" with gangsters, gopniks, lots of cities being essentially ghetto, russian mafias and "roofs", and also problems with money and food. The only Vidiya they had were Dendy (a chinese NES) and DOS/PC.>>5366089> what brings ease, peace and hope to a disillusioned Russian heart?Our lord and savior Putin (sorry, i couldn't resist)
>>5366067Yes! Real pc release of Turok 3 would be neat.
>>5365994>We Russians are straightforward and down-to-earth peopleso is that why you all mostly make urban doom maps?
>>5366092But... But... What if... There was also a fourth barrel looking to right of the gun, so you would also shoot right?But left. Because you are to the left. And you don't want to shoot yourself, you're not crazy.
>>5366176Bless them for that. Lainos makes some of the best urban maps there is for Doom.
>>5366176Isn't that mostly just Lainos? And maybe also his fellow clansmen?Why did the captcha suddenly start giving me lots of parking clocks?
>>5366179Might as well just have a ring of shotguns all the way around you.
>>5366179Oh! Oh! And what about an upgrade that puts barrels on your shoes, so you shoot every time you take a step?! So you can just run at demons and they just die!!!
>>5365964Just another vasyanstvo, ignore and move on, have a nice day.
>>5366196Yo dawgs, here's another one! So we take a shotgun. And in front of the barrel we hang a tiny immortal harmless demon. So that you would shoot demons while shooting a demon.And then we give him a tiny shotgun so you would shoot demons while shooting a demon who also shoots at demons!!!!
>>5366194You're just jelly you can't linedef art.
Tell me about the moment when you "met" Doom. It was 97, and I was 9 years old. I got one those cds which had shitload of shareware games on them. One of them was Doom 95 with Doom's first episode. Holy shit, I fell in love the game. I propably completed the first episode for dozens of times. I also found the full version on local store, but my parents wouldn't buy it for me, because they thought that it wouldn't be suitable for kids. Year later I found Doom 2 on same store, and dad bought it for me. For some reason I wasn't as excited as I thought I would be. I still completed the game, and thought that it was a good game, but just a good game. Propably another year later I stumbled upon the whole full version of Ultimate Doom on some abandonware website. And fuck, my life felt complete. I absolutely enjoyed all the 3 new episodes, that I got to play for first time. I remembered why I enjoyed the shareware episode in first place. Wasn't long from there till I found Boom, and all the fan-made pwads, and from there on I learned to saw the greatness in Doom 2. Now that I think of it, no other game has been that much a part of my life.
>>5366237It was in 2005 when I got my first internet connection. My PC was very weak (Win98, 4 GB HDD, 64 MB RAM), so I could only play old games like Blood, Duke Nukem 3D. I didn't like Doom when I first saw it, because resolution was too low (I played DOS version), also I hated sounds and three frames animations, I think that's because my first game was Blood which was newer and I played it I guess in 2000. I only started enjoing Doom when I got ZDoom and a few mods for it. So I completed Doom for a first time with Doom 3 sounds/weapons mod. Later I downloaded ZDaemon and played deathmatch/duels on maps like brit10, brit11, dwango5 map01, many others.
>>5366154>not all Russians, come onHence, "often".Cheer up buttercup. It's not all bad.Maybe someday the good guys will win.
Mouse aim is one thing but was WASD movement and ALWAYS RUN always a thing in Doom or any official version of it?I think the Doomwiki mentioned the configuration file letting you strafe with individual keys for left and right and continuous running.https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Configuration_file
>>5366276I don't remember, could you make your own binds in the original .exe? I haven't touched it in like 15 years.
>>5366276i think that became a thing when sourceports came on the scene cuz back then movement was limited to the arrow keys & you had to hold shift for sprint
Doomguy is actually russian.
>>5366408How does it compare to BloodGDX?
>>5366426Yes he's russian. But it's another guy. This one.
Do not worry children. I have returned.
>>5366276>>5366287>>5366290Never played the original on real DOS hardware but you can on DOSBox if you run SETUP.EXE, so I imagine you could on the original.Not shown in >pic related, the fact that my current controller configuration is set to "Keyboard and Mouse."
>>5366428i don't know, I need to test it.
One anon proofed that Doom ambient "music" takes to experience or talent, just slow distorted farts n bells.https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TdKk10jf5PE_TDYx-HBzyGKVprUmbl0l
Purple Archie and white Manc infighting.
>>5366473>That PSX soundtrack that everyone says is scary but it's just some mid-90s radio jackass saying "10-81" slowed down over and over.
>>5366473>>5366492>slavshits in thread>thread quality drops sharplyWhat a coincidence.
>>5366492Is it a common thing for songs to be ruined once you read what the distorted voices are actually saying?>think background radio chatter is some leet military shit>it's one of the musicians talking about beer
Hello /vr/. I have a fuckton of Quake maps sitting in my hard drive ready to play. Give me some good tunes to listen to while blasting through them please.
>>5366515the crow soundtrack
>>5366515The Quake soundtrack, you stupid fucker.
>>5366473see, this doesn't work because there's no sound effects that stand out to break from the monotone buzz, and when the bells do come in they just sound really out of place and ruin the atmosphere. it's literally to the same effect as recording sounds from a blender and a printer, mixing both until they vaguely resemble a coherent beat and claim it's EDM, or singing from my low register and claiming I'm a soprano. everything can be oversimplified if you try hard enough.I don't know what this is meant to serve as proof of, it just sounds really garish and goofy by any standard. but uh, I guess that was the goal?
>>5366532how about calm the fuck down & go eat some tide pods or something
>>5366497They really should fuck off back to their own boards, they don't belong here.
>>5366532Anon, you can't tell me with a straight face that a total of like 11 fucking tracks reused throughout hundreds of Quake maps doesn't get repetitive.At least many WADs for Doom include their own MIDIs, most Quake ones don't, they just reuse REALLY EXCITING SHIT like thishttps://youtu.be/d-94T9Lb1FUCome on bruv.
>>5366237I can relate to your story a lot, though I'm a couple of years older. Got the whole full version of Doom1 in 1994, so it was really something new. Had the luck that my father just bought a new 486. I wasn't allowed to play, so it had to happen secretly. "Leave no traces!" I thought to myself! I didn't know how to save a game, so I never created savegames.Best experience ever. The tension was almost unbearable. Today kids would call it "rouge lite", I guess.
>>5366551quake isn't a full-time exciting gameslow down for once you ADHD riddled tard, before you start bitching about bullet sponges and super shitguns
>>5366549>make a game so that people can mod it>people shouldn't mod it
>>5366408Took this for a spin, and it actually works pretty good. Up until I got squashed by a door. Then my will to live faded.
>>5366473This belongs to a dark map with gore textures
>>5366556Anon, you're being purposefully dense aren't you. DOOM 1/2 have a fuckton of original tracks that only get reused two or three maps, if that. Quake has like 11 that it has to use to cover 4 episodes + most fan-made maps. You really don't think this is a problem? You'll listen to the 11 tracks merrily forever? At that point it's not the mappers' choice to put that song there, it's basically filling a checklist. It contributes next to nothing to their artistic vision for that map.The Quake soundtrack is okay for your first playthrough of the game, but on a repeat playthrough or playing fan-made maps, it gets tedious.
>>5366564Just stop responding to the shitter.
>>5366561That's just the build engine, swinging doors are dangerous and should be handled with caution.>>5366562Hot.
>>5366570not an argument>>5366564it's ambiencedoom's music is also largely shit
>>5366576Aubrey Hodge pls go
>>5366473STOP REPOSTING MY SHIT
>>53662371996, my dad brought home one of those shareware collection cds that came in pc mags. Had a crapload of dos game demos. Doom, Heretic, Hexen, Strife, Quake, and many others. I didn't get the full registered version until eleven years later.
So is NBlood more accurate than BloodGDX?
>>5366497nah, see >>5366452s'arais' ban wore off again, and you know he can't go long without announcing himself and shitting on everything else involvedreally wish he'd just be perma'd already
>>5366630Not just (((him))), going by other posts on the thread.
>>5366628visually yes. gameplay no.
>>5366556quake's music was arranged with its visuals in mind. its aesthetics complimented it, the game for all it's worth could've shipped with the title track in permanent loop throughout and it'd work the exact same, except the atmosphere would be gone completely. they only felt like experimenting with ambient music because they were heading into a more 'mature' direction for their game, which they took back immediately with quake 2 and 3. not that quake's bombastic gameplay and mechanics didn't at their own time already.>>5366632just let him be whoever he is. the whole board is fully aware of his shitfits by now as he's been engaging people on here at random for the last 5 years completely uninterrupted. it's a sad sight but some people are just failures like that.
>>5366638quake 2 has a lot more problems than just its soundtrack
>>5366645I wouldn't call the soundtrack one of Quake 2's problems, that part is pretty good.
Just finished compiling my 1.5 GB neural upscale pack for Brutal Doom, however I'm prety sure something is fucked up.
>>5366645I don't think he was calling it a problem.>>5366650applebees?
it doesn't look like much yes, still some glitches, but it's texture mapping on a fucking motorola 68000.
>>5366650well worth the effort...
>>5366683It's not that it's impossible, others tried it, but with something so slow as the MD 68k...it's probably unbearably slow. Congratulations, anon. I admire your dedication.
>>5366659Shit slutters sometimes. Maybe I shouldn't had upscaled anything other than monsters and weapons. I just copied all images from Brutal Doom pk3 and loaded into Topaz A.I. Gigapixel and then copied upscaled images to hires folder.
>>5366645>q2 soundtrack>badi know you're a nigger, but goddamn if you're not going full retard>>5366650why do you want castor oil on your vasoline?
Reposting the MetaDoom thing.https://pastebin.com/S3rBFNjH
>>5366709Yes but somehow it hasn't hurt the framerate much at all. This means it's likely bottlenecked in the transformation and clipping parts of the engine (which are unoptimized C). That's really good news.
So incase a boss enemy needed more firepower
>>5366754Don't know what the fuck im looking at but those are some cool effects
>>5366879doom but we used the edge detect filter on everything
>>5366881filters are not an argument
>>5366902Yes they are.
Filters are good. They hide the artifacts caused by neural upscale, so the picture looks solid
>>5366473Hey, I only posted DANNY WON in the last thread because it's a hilarious example of sped up music, and it's literally the only thing I associate the PSX version with. Don't drag me into your weird ambient music hatred, I actually blame you guys for it since that's how I found it years ago.
>>5366919hating filters is a forced meme
>>5366921DANNY WONDA-DANNYDANNY WO-DAN-DANNNYYYY WOOOOOONANNYWONHEY
>>5365917That's a fucking gorgeous sprite holy shit
>>5365917is he supposed to be flying that last frame
>>5367071That's probably a charge attack with the horns just like Heretic Maulotaurs do.
h e y
You know what I like most about Doom 64/PSX's soundtrack?DANNY WON! heeeey
>>5366428For starters, It's not coded in a programming language that's riddled with security vulnerabilities.
>>5367129do that to the Quake soundtrack THEN lie to yourselves. fuvk u danny glover
>>5367036clonkclackclonk clink klackKLOK
>>5367140reminds me of these fuckers
>>5367132Would I expect to get hacked playing Blood in SP?
>>5367132that doesn't mean it's good
What is your favorite map from Arcane Dimensions?
>>5367207sepulcher is the most impressive, but i've thus far found obd to be the most fun to actually play
>>5367151Having Java installed on your system is like bending over in a San Francisco bar and hoping to not get aids.
>>5366650why are we still herejust to suffer?
>>5366879>>5366721>>5366650>>5366919Sorry, but this honestly looks like hot garbage. Just because you can doesn't always mean you should.
Is there any way to put in tracks for each individual level in Quake?
>>5367283b-b-but the resolution is higher! that means it's better!
>>5363910>>5365070>>5365326Greatest band of all time>>5365514zoomer detected
>>5367293if i'm remembering correctly the track selection is in the map itself
>>5367283I know. That's because I upscaled it only once 4x. But I should've upscaled it 8x and then downscaled to 2x.
>>5367301It is, track number is part of the worldspawn entity.
>>5366237I actually "met" with Doom several times.1st in '95 when it came preinstalled along Heretic on a fresh PC my dad bought. This was my first IBM PC (previously only had Spectrum). I loved both games, but Heretic had more impact on me.But then Quake and Duke came out, then Unreal, and for a while Unreal '98 was my most favourite game ever.I don't remember how I discovered Doom Legacy, but I did it around 2001 and played through original wads and final doom with my sister in split-screen. Then it was abandoned once more. At the time I didn't realize that Doom had a modding/mapping community at all.Around 2008 or so I read about jHeretic (Doomsday) on some site and that reignited the heretic spark in me- I got all the high-res pack and played through Heretic, Hexen and Doom extensively. I hated 3D models and simply cut them out of the DHTP archives, leaving all the other "bling" intact.I am ashamed to say, but it was Brutal Doom that opened Doom modding for me - an article on some site about v18 of the mod introduced me back to Doom and GZDoom in particular. Then I found ZDoom forums, and realised that there were fuckton of mods and maps that I missed out. Since that moment there was no way back.
Has Doomguy ever thought about turning the shotgun sideways to hit tall skinny enemies with more pellets?
Wow, I love this detail of the snow being thawed by the torches.Also, I haven't encountered any bad enemy spam like some anons warned. There's been enemy spam, but it's all popcorn enemies with a few tougher enemies for support, which I actually quite like (as opposed to hordes of bullet spongey enemies).
>>5366645Q2 has many problems but soundtrack isn't one of them
>>5367380>cleartype'd font in the hudWHY
>>5367026Plenty of people genuinely dislike filters, though.
>>5366650this looks like a bad trip
>>5366276WASD simply wasn't the default controls. You can use setup.exe to change controls.Always Run was also possible, albeit in an unintended way, by setting joyb_speed to a much higher value.
>>5363879>BTSX EP 3STILL WAITINGhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdaZTv9NCDw
>>5367394it's still a really shitty thing to complain about
>>5366650Truly this is... Hell on Earth.
>>5367469it is never wrong to educate people who have no taste
>>5367528or people who don't know better because GZDoom defaults.
>>5365606>wanting this pure beefcake in femaleheresy
>>5365423There's a map pack you should check outIt's called Fifty Shades of Graytall
>>5367418I swear to god, If E3 doesn't come out this year, I'm going to scream.
>>5367590I swear to god, if E3 does come out this year, I'm going to cream.
needs a ton of work but this is what i have so far
>>5367590>December 31, 2019>"3! 2! 1! Happy New-">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3JobtTbojg
>>5367559>not wanting a beefcake femaleextreme heresy
>>5367620Is that a real texture, or some mathmatical trickery?
>>5367626it's a real (shitty) texture, the grey in the background is also a texture, but it's just small enough to not show any details
>>5367629What texture size/color depth limits do you have?
>>5367631the display is only 160 pixels high so i'll probably just leave it at 128x128 max, this is 64x64. The whole thing is using a single 16-color palette, and there's not much I can do to get around that. Maybe different map segments could use a different palette, but only if I can ensure areas using another palette are completely invisible.
>>5367641>>Maybe different map segments could use a different palette, but only if I can ensure areas using another palette are completely invisible.You would need to keep some colors between the palettes to bridge them wouldn't you?Which 16 colors are you using? Curious to see what would be possible texture wise.
>>5367643> You would need to keep some colors between the palettes to bridge them wouldn't you?oh yeah, then that probably won't work.> Which 16 colors are you using? Curious to see what would be possible texture wise.actually it's 15 colors, forgot that color 0 is transparent. I wouldn't go by what I picked, I didn't put a ton of thought into it.https://segaretro.org/Sega_Mega_Drive/Palettes_and_CRAMYou can pick any 15 colors out of 9-bit rgb.
>>5367652It's pretty fun to work in those constraints.Definitely takes quite a bit of consideration. Would be best to pick 2 color tones per map and just stick with them I'd think. Plus maybe 4 colors for weapon sprites? I don't even know how you do the shading on the walls. P cool.pic related is just 32x32, so pretty small. Kinda looks like it could be in the industrial zone in sonic.
>>5367531>>5367528or people complaining about filters as if it actually mattered and there wasn't things more worth complaining about
>>5367714you are not the arbiter of what's worth complaining aboutmaybe it's not worth complaining about complaining about filters
Anyone know what this weapon/statusbar is from?
>>5367724Maybe it's not worth complaining about complaining about complaining about filters
>>5367707I might be able to use the hardware's sprites and the other hardware background for the player's gun as well as the HUD.
Are there any wads besides Doom 64 EX, that need specifically tailored source port to be played? Just asking out of interest.
why mod doom when you could mod Quake?
>>5366089Vodka, I imagine
>>5367861doom has more maps, and I use quake movement in doom anyway
>>5366473Sounds like a creaky ship.
>>5367375Thats clever. You, I like
>>5367375someone make a vr mod where you can do this or something shit
HUH HUH HUH HUH HUH HUH
>>5367868>[a shoddy imitation of] quake movement in doom
>>5367883its based on the quake source codehave you even tried it
>>5367861Quake is fugly and boring
>>5367894downvoted and blocked
>>5367883if there's any specific differences between the quakemovement mod and quake's movement, feel free to mention them
>>5367868What wad/pk3 do you use for Quake-style movement for Doom?
>>5367891hit me up with a link and ill try it in the morning
>>5367903is it based on netquake or quakeworld?
>>5367894I thought that Quake was boring and outdated game, until I decided to try Arcane Dimensions.
>>5367894you're ugly and boring, but we keep you around too
>>5367904http://git.jinotra.in/ijon/quakemovementper the readme, it's really meant as a modding resource, but for vanilla doom it's playable as-istypically all you need to do to adapt a mod to use quakemovement is include the quakeaccel.txt zscript, have the player classes in the mod inherit from QuakeAccelPlayer, and tweak the values as needed (or use the example values in testclasses.txt). for the few mods that actually mess with PlayerPawn.HandleMovement, there's no general instructions I can give to make them work, but the only mod I know of that does that is doom tournament, and what sort of madman would mix UT guns with quake physics>>5367914there's a flag, VQ1BunnyHop, that applies friction for a tic even if you jump immediately. by default, it doesn't do that.if you're thinking about the powerbunny technique (with the flag on)... it should work? if it works the way I think it does - the way the video describes it, you're moving around 58 degrees to the right, and you're moving slightly less than 320u/s in that direction when around 600u/s speed, so you accelerate in that direction - it will.
>>5367904>>5367913> http://git.jinotra.in/ijon/quakemovement>>5367913so you just baselessly talk shit
>>5367935Why isn't QCDE using this shit instead of the lame vanillaish physics it actually uses?
>>5367938zandronum doesn't have zscript
>>5367938Zandybam is still quite behind.
>>5367938does zand team have a time machine?
>>5367935actually, on the topic of powerbunny: don't expect it to work as well in doom as it does in quake. I matched the friction half-time values (how long it takes for friction to halve your velocity) exactly, but due to the fact that you'll spend 1/35 of a second on the ground in doom (as opposed to 1/77 of a second in quake), you're going to necessarily have more friction apply, which cuts your momentum down harder. you'll still keep more momentum than just plain bunnyhopping, but I expect the speed cap relative to your forward speed to be noticeably lower.of course, when VQ1Bunnyhop is off (as it is by default), it won't matter. but something to keep in mind.
This "check if monster has no target" script doesn't work in the latest GZDoom and I have no bloody idea why, I don't get any errors, it just never returns true. in older GZDoom versions it works fine!
>>5367951So for some reason, despite the arrow itself being a 0 damage projectile, the monsters have a target when I hit them somehow. This wasn't the case in earlier versions of GZDoom. If I summonfriend a monster the script works and says they don't have a target.
>>5367969I bet it has something to do with the DamageMobj refactorzdoom's bug section has anonymous posting enabled, so if you upload a minimal example wad to mixtape and make a bug report, chances are it'll be dealt with fairly quickly (although graf will whine about how he hates that it ever worked that way, probably)
>>5367969Okay so turns out having a projectile with "Damagetype NoDamage" but still having a Damage parameter (which is being used as a variable for A_DamageTracer, so I can have different arrows inheriting from a base actor that only change the Damage parameter) above 0 makes monsters get alerted as if they got hurt.>>5367971I feel like I'd get yelled at just due to damage being listed as a "deprecated" variable. https://zdoom.org/wiki/DECORATE_expressions#VariablesYou're right though, It's still a change to monster behavior either way.
>>5367948... actually, no. it won't work right now because I apply ground friction for that single tic with VQ1Bunnyhop, but not ground acceleration.easy enough to fix, though
>play quake for 200+ hours the past couple months>still bad at iti didn't think it was possible to be this retarded, but i guess it is
>>5367984wait no, I'm retarded, it already does thatI should look at my own code before posting
>>5366089> what brings ease, peace and hope to a disillusioned Russian heart?Alcohol, other drugs and videogame escapism.For example, CSGO and Dota 2 are favorite russian games because they pretty much f2p, run on a potato and bring immense amount of suffering and frustration, which is very realistic depiction of russian life.
>>5366237Brutal Doom through Zandronum, about half year ago.
>>5366237It was a nice summer day in the 90's, and a friend of mine got a copy of Doom on floppydisk, so fancyyyy. Little did I know that the floppies had more STD's than a five dollar thai ladyboy. He is no longer my friend. And his own computer exploding apparently wasn't a clue.
I'm trying to play Eviternity with Trailblazer don't judge me, I want revenge on those hordes of agitating motherfuckers and I keep seeing these, uh, ghostly frames of the shotgun's firing animation flicker in and out of existence near certain walls. Any idea what the fuck could be causing this?
>>5368054Not entirely sure, but its possible there's stuff conflicting with each other.
>>5368054>>5368058that would be a sprite conflicttwo different sprites from two different mods named with the same 4 lettersthis exact sprite conflict happens with TUTN rain tooyou could crack open eviternity, find the rain drop sprite and rename it + rename it in the decorate code
I really like that most mods with custom palettes make the color blue look much better. The default blue range just seems so limited.
>>5367725w-what's the right answer
>>5368072In Zandronum I usually set my character's color to blue or green to test out a mod's palette. I like those "electric" blues and greens a lot of ZDoom mods have.
>>5368072vanilla blue is too dark and (0, 0, 255) for mei also like the ones that make the golden "fire yellow" part into a more proper red-to-yellow fire color
> custom paletteshow does one go about making one?
>>5367531We'll just have to educate people.
>>5364191>>5363875Pls respond (some more)I'd like more opinions on this if possible
>>5367985What are you having trouble with?
>>5368202not much in particular, i can beat the game on hard with enough effort, i just thought i'd be a bit better with this much time spent in iti'm particularly shit at deathmatch and fancy movement tricks but i reckon that's more my poor eyesight and coordination
>>5368228you damn kidsyou sons of bitches
Has Marathon gotten any novels or adaptions in other media?
No release date for Sigil yet? I feel like Romero has been finished for months and is waiting for boxes to get ready to ship.
>>5368272February 15 2020
>>5366237A friend of mine with a PC showed it to me when I was like 10 or 11. I tried it, immediately walked into a corner and couldn't figure out how to get out.
>>5368302lmao what a dumbass.
>>5368303I only knew how to play platformers then and D-pad did it all. There even was this racing game on the NES where all I could do was spin at the start line because I didn't think to try using the A/B buttons to accelerate.I was not a very bright kid.
>>5368303children tend to be pretty bad at things when they first try them out.
>>5365940amuscaria is trying to imitate doom's animation limitation style here so don't expect this many
Will BloodGDX have linux support at any point in the future? If not how well does it run on WINE?
>>5368407It's in java, so it doesn't even need WINE. Tried it out on arch, it worked flawlessly for me.
Does anyone have the doom_complete.pk3 with all doom iwads combined? I know some anon linked it a few threads ago.
What's the best way to play Hexen 2 nowadays on Windows 7?
>>5368407Anon, BloodGDX already runs on Linux natively just fine. You just need Java installed.
Darn. You found my one and only weakness! Standing behind a small, thin section of brick!
>>5368587Shambler melee will go through small thin sections of brick
Is there a kill trigger in stock Doom ? Kill enemies -> effect triggersWhat about in sourceports?How did they do it in Dead Simple? Hardcoded?
>>5368592virgin vile VS the chad-bler
>>5367894Wow, so fragile. oO
>>5368619No anon, The Fragile came later.
>>5368603hardcoded into tags 666 and 667 that raise/lower when all Mancubi/arachnotrons die respectively.In GZDoom/UDMF you can give actions to actors to do stuff when they die.
>>5368603isn't that also the case with phobos anomaly?
>>5368461Hammer Of Thyrion port
>>5368675Barons have the boss death tag.
>>5368603The Commander Keen doll will also activate any 666 tag sectors once they're killed.
Is Half Life 1 worth a playthough nowadays if I've never played it before?The heavy-handed story section bits kind of turn me off (specially knowing that it's not gonna go anywhere since HL3 is a meme that is never happening), but I might be willing to stomach it if the actual gunplay and exploring is solid (I have heard milquetoast things about those by other people)
>>5368741did you mean to post this on /v/? please leave.
>>5368772I meant to post it on /vr/'s /doom/ thread, and that's where I posted it. I'm a Doom/Quake kinda guy.
>>5367151No, since most security issues with the JVM occur in relation to web applets. Even if you do host a multiplayer game, you're not really in any danger.Besides, there's no guarantee that if BloodGDX were programmed in C or C++ that it would be more secure. In fact it's way easier for an inexperienced/bad programmer to introduce security vulnerabilities like buffer overflows in C than it is in Java.
>>5368772why are you a nigger?>>5368741hl1's pretty much where the divide between games as gameplay and games as an "experience" startedthe guns are standard realistic/sci-fi affair with momentary breaks into out-there stuff, such as the crossbow (which still is a bog-standard sniper rifle) and the shotgun (which has a DOUBLE SHOT alt-fire omg!!!)if you like storygames with atmosphere and environmental storytelling and realistic architecture, you'll like it, if you prefer your games to be arcade-y and to sacrifice realism for better gameplay, you'll hate iti think it's aged really shittily, but it's still an important landmark for fps history
>>5368741I'm in the same boat as you, never played hl1 and I've always debated getting around to it. HL2 and its episodes were fun, the gameplay was enjoyable and I'd say the overall presentation was ahead of everything else at the time, so I'd only guess the same for the first one. Probably seen the whole game multiple times over through vids, just havent gotten around to it, and honestly I'm probably more interested in going back to like deus ex before HL1, but who knows, give it a shot!
>>5368772You know you could just say why you like it instead of posting that
Duke Nukem is a better doom 2 than doom 2
>>5363875>Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:>https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXzWhy is not there a guide for Quake 2, too? I wanted to play it.
>>5368272I wouldn't expect such competence
>>5368829Evilution is a better Doom 2 than Doom 2
Hey fellow retro FPS bro's, does anyone know what song this is at the start of this level from Grezzo 2? Been search for month's and have had no luck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4_HAmU6L0o
>>5368863Plutonia is the best Doom 2
>>5368867Doom is the better Doom 2
>>5368741The gunplay is pretty boring/bad and there's not much real exploration since it's almost entirely non-linear. But I would still recommend playing it due to it's huge impact/legacy. And you might enjoy the atmosphere/narrative.
>>5368885No shit sherlock.
looking at some freedoom images and they kinda remind me of doom 4 and eternal
>>5368741Yes, the gunplay and exploration is pretty good
>>5368889>almost entirely non-linearMeant the opposite of course
>make a reload sequence for the shotgun>work out how to make it so it only pumps at the end if the gun was completely empty when you started>break things lots of times when trying to figure this out, because I'm a retard who barely knows what he's doing>finally making it all work, I realize that realistically, you'd actually insert one shell, pump to chamber it, then insert the rest
I have this weird love/hate relationship with Turok 2.On one hand, the gunplay is amazing, it's satisfying, the weapons are some of the best. A good enemy variety and a great soundtrack. On the other hand the level design. The first one is really good but they go too overboard with the exploration, it feels like a maze, if you miss one thing, you have to go back from the beginning, it's tedious as hell. The worst one is definitely the Lair of the Blind Ones.
>>5368978yes, you already posted it at >>5366729
What's your favorite part about DANNY WON!?
I would like to play TNT Revilution and Plutonia 2.Are they better than the originals?
>>5369108*breathes in*DA->muffled pong clacking in the distance
>>5369108>>5369131memes exist to be killed.
>>5369110Yes, even if they don't feel like the originals at time.
>>5369110Revilution is actually good, unlike Evilution.
>>5369134who died and got stuck up your ass
>>5369158>who diedmy faith in these threads.
>>5369158ur mom lmao
>>5369020The shotgun in Ashes does this and I don't think I had ever seen it in a game before.
>>5369198I've seen other shooters do it, but I don't think I've seen any Doom mod that "ghost loads" a shell properdo a Doom mod with that and you'll stand out ... well, weapon autists takes notice at least
>>5369316I think Bruddit Doom of all things does that.
>>5369108Heeey!>>5369198Is that made in ZScript? Because I don't understand ZScript.Accessories To Murder did it.>>5369316Ghost load would be putting a shell on the lifter, giving you an additional shell to the one in the chamber and the ones in the magazine, I think only some shotguns let you do that, like the Benelli M4.
>>5369131I guess they were playing pingpong and Danny won.
>>5369134>people quoting an interesting tidbit of history on Doom 64's soundtrack that was posted not one thread ago>'dead meme'
>>5369438where in the post does it say it's a dead meme.
Who's gonna be your valentine, /doom/?
>>5369468this here 12gauge I have in my mouth right now
>>5369438It was PSX Doom and I absolutely wish that I had never posted it now, I divided the thread into angry Russians and HEEY
>>5369468I often forget that Valentines is even a thing.
>>5369475Calm down Kurt
>>5369468>implying I'm not a mid-20s permavirgin with more cash than romantic prospectsHeheh... yeah
>>5369468A special girl with a saw.
>>5369495Hey you could be a late 20s forever alone with hardly any cash and no romantic prospects whatsoever.Fuck.
>play level>get owned>watch walkthrough that tells me all the secrets>beat level and dont get ownedwhat is the point if u have to watch walkthru to see how to beat the level
>>5369512Secrets being necessary to beat a level is generally considered not very good design.What level?
>>5369495I was gonna write a whining post about how i'm broke as fuck and can't afford anything to give but instead i'm going to make a retarded doom themed card and print it out and give it to her. I guess it'll go down something like this.
>>5369529I assure you I'd swap places with you if given the chance. Money is a hell of a lot easier to get than any kind of relationship. That card had better be good.
>Unloved 2 will never be finished
>>5369512>play through and beat level>enemies: 480 / 500>secrets: 1 / 12every time
>>5369495>mid 30s with more romantic prospects than cash>haha nice it's good having girls like me>that gnawing knowledge that all of them will instantly fuck off the moment they know how broke i am>fuck>>5369538Girls are nice, but masturbation covers that. I just want the knowledge that I'll be able to cover rent for the next year.
you guys are all my valentine, /doom/c:
>>5369572Man it's not about getting laid, it's about having someone who gives a shit about you. You can't pay for genuine attachment, and you can't jerk off your heart.
>>5369626I know of several people who will prove your latter point absolutely wrong.Also on topic, should I get back into Doom engine mapping or just jump into Quake? I did a little bit of Doom stuff a few years ago that never got finished or released (as well as some old as fuck experience with UE1), but I've had a much larger interest in Quake engine stuff lately and I'm not sure if on would correlate to the other.
Sigil boxes will be delayed till April. No information regarding, that will the wad itself get delayed too.https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103430-sigil-new-romero-megawad-for-feb-2019/?page=22
>>5365193BFG edition was how I got into DOOM in the first place. Bought it when I was a kid and thought 3 sucked shit but played the fuck out of 1 & 2.3 still sucks.I still only play 1 & 2.
>>5369692Fully expected this with Romero's absolute silence over the last few weeks.The Daikatanaing begins.
Doom:One Lite + Hideous Destructor + Droplets + Beam Flashlight + Sound Caulking PSX Music is like a HD player's dream.You get all of Doom 1's episodes in single uninterrupted maps, with slight alterations for realism and to keep you on your toes.>Knee Deep in the Dead>ONE>CONTINUOUS>MAPPictured: Dark Universe Pt 1
>>5369743daikatana is a pleb filter
>>5368741i hated it the first time through, but it's grown on me since. the gunplay is decent, not as good as hl2 what with all the bullet sponge enemies, but it works for the somewhat slower pace. weapon variety is not stellar but has some neat stuff like the tau cannon, mines, and snarks, but nothing feels useless. the story isn't as heavy as it's made out to be, the only unskippable story related parts are the very beginning and end, the rest is just npc dialogue you can fully ignore. it's not a mindblowing cum-in-your-pants good story, but it's enjoyable and kept my attention. the lack of a sequel doesn't matter much as in my opinion hl1's story works just fine as a standalone.not a whole lot in the way of exploring as it's pretty linear, but there's a good amount of item stashes tucked away and the levels are well made and not too simplistic. it's got less puzzles than hl2, it's usually just "move some boxes to jump up here" or "go find the button to turn on this generator so you can advance in the other direction".difficulty wise it's pretty solid if you play on hard, the hitscan enemies are pretty annoying but not impossible if you keep in mind this isn't as much of a run and gun game as doom or quake. imo the last couple chapters are way too easy but a lot of people complain about the platforming and the sub boss so idk.overall i'd say it's a pretty good game, but if you go in expecting doom/quake style gameplay and trying to play it as such you're gonna be disappointed
>>5368864Anyone? Come on, there has to be at least one anon in this thread who has played this.
>>5369854oh, i've played it, but i certainly don't recognize the tune
>>5369854The fewer people to have tried to suffer though Grezzo 2 the better. There's a moment where you hit your balls with a hammer because you're so bored.
>>5369854Shazam got nothing, fwiw. Reminded me of Painkiller though, maybe check that game's soundtrack.
>>5368794>>5368741Half life 1 is a far better game than 2 in many ways. In some ways, such as the really interesting AI and approach to enemies, it's still an odd duck. MarphitusBlacktimus' videos reallymade me appreciate the design of the game.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV9ooD5rx1oMany of the enemies are designed more like animals than necessarily enemy NPC's, some will even sleep when you're not there, or have abilities like smell which you'd never notice.
>>5369875Just picked through it and didn't find the track. Thanks anyway's.
Is there any class based mods like Samsara and Final Doomer?
>>5369657>I know of several people who will prove your latter point absolutely wrong.I look forward to seeing them die alone.
What are your thoughts on Megaman 8BDM?I remember seeing almost a fucking decade ago (wow, time flies) and hating it for some reason at the time. Then a week ago I decided to give it a shot and I'm...actually having fun?Maybe they've fixed whatever I didn't like at the time, or maybe my standards have changed. I just know the boss fights are really goddamn cool.
>>5369736>BFG edition was how I got into DOOM in the first place.>Bought it when I was a kidHoly fuck, 2012 was 7 years ago.
>>5369942Well, it definitely has improved a lot over time. Especially the boss fights. And bot matches are shorter now.
>>5369878>hl1 is better than 2Not to argue one way or another, but that's a bold statement considering both are considered equally good in the eyes of GAMURS everywhere.
>>5369994I agree with him, Half-Life 1 has much better level-design.
>>5369992bot matches are MUCH shorter nowthey used to be to 25 frags, which was a pretty high level of fuck
>>5369994HL2 has a few too many moments of boredom, IMO.
>>5369994i like both, but i felt hl2 was a bit too easy, then again last time i played was highschoolalso fuck the companion AI in that game, unironically would've been far easier without them
>>5369060These are my exact feelings about Turok 2, (other than them gutting the platforming from the first game). Turok 2 has one of the best weapon rosters in fps history, but good God does the level design go down the shitter near the end. I had to drop it at the lair of the blind ones.
>>5369692Is this man for real? How douche can someone get? Jesus Christ.
>>5369692I can wait desu.
>>5370072Does it really make him a douche? This seems like a problem with Limited Run, who's distributing.
So in Temple of the Lizardmen 2, 3 & 4 there's now a bug where the lizardmen constantly play their alert sound over and over. A few monsters in TOTLM1 do this too. The fuck?
So we have to play shitty fake wads for two more months before we can get the real thing?
>>5369692Oh well, Many wads I've been excited for still haven't come out after 5+ years, so 2 months is honestly not that big of a deal.
>>5370098>shitty fake wadsWhat?
>>5370072>man makes side project, for free>doesn't meet your imaginary deadline>"what a douche"based
New thread, although I think the image works better as a regular post.>>5370112>>5370112>>5370112
>>5370105He's a repeat offender shitposter.
>>5369994HL2 is mostly "look what our engine can do! grab shit and make bridges out of it!" and annoying gauntlet sections especially later on in the game. It's nowhere near as immersive, quiet as hl1 nor does it have as much of a focus on level design. It was impressive at the time but 15 years later, hl1 has aged far better.
>>5370109>for freeIt's not though, you gotta pay for the box's contents.
>>5370301romero's not even in charge of shipping the box though, that's that limited run company
>>5369560>not going for 100% kills every level
>>5370301You can still dl it for free.
>>5363875What happened to Dwango?
>>5365201bumping this question, I'm curious too