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Tell me a better device for emulation with less effort. Protip: you can't.

Screw raspberry pi anything. You're looking at at least $30 with nothing else. Buying a cool pie case, fan for overclocking, and anything else will start to stack up in price. Why do any of this when you'll barely get to play Ps1/n64 games at good framerates on retropi.

The BEST CHEAPEST quick and easy emulation station is the Wii. Everyone didn't play their Wii, so most, even if they are dirty nasty looking, they still run absolutely fine, especially since they're made out of Nintendium, which doesn't ever break. I see Wiis ain thrift stores ALL THE TIME for $10-$15 dollars, sometimes with all the hook ups (sensor bar/power supply). Everyone just gives them away because they think they're junk pieces of shit now I guess.

> NTCS Wiis doesn't even need an RGB mod.
> Softmod can be done by anyone, literally takes 15 minutes using just your computer to download some things
> Add 128gb usb/whatever to play all games
>plays gamecube/wii games natively
> Can install entire Nintendo Wii Shop library (includes a lot of the great n64 games, basically native)
> Can play with a gc controller and by pass wii remote after modded
>Every retro emulatior you'd ever want
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>>5357385
PC
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>>5357385
>mame support sucks
>cps1/2/neogeo sucks
>cant play ps1
>cant play sor remake
>cant play 32x

xbox is true master race.
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You emulate on the Wii for the analog video output. If you're not emulating on a CRT, there's absolutely no reason to use a Wii.

RPi is shit, though. Don't use that, either.
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Decent post. The wii is a great retro gaming machine that’s for sure, especially that it’s not only for emulation, but you get access to the entire gcn and wii library played on native hardware. the thing you said about n64 VC bring basically native is bullshit though, it’s emulation plain and simple, runs well though. Only other downside is the wii’s not powerful enough for much arcade emulation, or rather mame for wii is still pretty bad
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>>5357395
The Xbox is a great system and choice for emulation and if you can find one cheaply and in good condition, I'd consider it, but frankly they are harder to come by and I feel they had the potential to break down more. The wii is better for the follow reason:

You can softmod the xbox, which is nice, but you absolutely need to remove the clock capacitor or it could damage your motherboard. So "ease of use" is slightly technical and for me I'm looking for the most brain dead easy, accessible, with the wide ability of play.
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>>5357397
Name be a better emulation station that runs the equivalent of n64 games better than the WiiVC, considering price/ease of use. It's a by comparison. By native, I actually meant that it was made by the same makers of the official product. Anything else it at least wasn't designed for. But yeah, you're right, it's emulation.

At least it's good for a lot of Nintendo shit/genesis. The idea is, for the price and ease of use aka just getting it setup is fast as shit and it's probably the best gift to hand to a 7 year old kid for a birthday present "hey here's every game I didn't have the chance at owning at your age." If they break it or spill something on it, you'd never care and it's hard to break/can take fall damage.
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>try to do thing
>wii gets bricked
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>>5357385
"Every retro emulator you'd ever want"
You sure about that? Have you done any beginner research? How about a single dreamcast emulator? neo geo? the newest versions of all the other emulators? what a fail bait thread
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>>5357387
/thread
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>>5357457
It's pretty much retard proof at this point. I would know as i am literally retarded.
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>>5357418
>The Xbox is a great system and choice for emulation and if you can find one cheaply and in good condition, I'd consider it, but frankly they are harder to come by and I feel they had the potential to break down more.
They are more expensive, louder and take up 4.5x the space of a wii. An Xbox does offer 32x emulation if you are interested in the few games native to that system. The wii has it beat for controller support however.

>>5357457
>wii gets bricked
You have to try to get a Wii bricked at this point in its 3rd party lifecycle. Getting good information from a consolidated and updated source is the hardest part, and once you find out about GBATemp.com, there should be no room for error unless you are really an idiot. My brother who knows nothing of modding consoles did his wii in an evening without issue.

>>5357461
>neo geo?
Most of the better Neo Geo games are available on the Virtual Console, but I do hear that many of them also run under retroarch.
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>>5357457
If you brick you Wii at this point, you're retarded. You'd definitely have to try to brick it with considerable effort. Plus a lot of these Wiis are older models which allow the Boot2 route, which decreases brickability that much more.

>>5357461
It doesn't have everything, nothing ever does at $15 tops. Do you understand the parameters? Cheapness. Ease of use. Availability. Game Selection. If you think it has it beat, name a better alternative.

>>5357387
PC doesn't beat $15. See where the raspberry pi goes wrong. Towers also lose in being not portable and take up more space. Plus you don't have to be one of those guys that talk about how they "turned their raspberry pi into an oldshcool video game machine" and can't stop shutting the fuck up about it.

Wii, Gamecube, Snes, Nes, Genesis, GB, GBC, Wii Virtual Console, and probably some other shit. $15. 15 minutes. Everything plays no bullshit.
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>>5357461
It's the economy option. You get a lot of bang for your buck. Plus a native emulator comes with Neo Geo games.
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>>5357385
>they're made out of Nintendium
Nah, they ran out. Gamecube and Phat DS were the last systems to use it.
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>>5357583
>PC doesn’t beat $15
It does if you aren’t poor. Also where are you getting Wiis for $15?
>not portable and taking up more space
Same goes for CRTs, which are the only reason to play on a Wii. If my mate has CRTs at his house he’s going to obviously have systems we can play on. The Wii being “portable” means absolutely nothing.
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ps1 on pi is great though
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>>5357675
i have a thrift store i got to. right now they have 5 wiis, two of which with cables. ive bought two so far since I've known about it. they have an xbox 360 slim for $25 but no harddrive
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>>5357675
>Also where are you getting Wiis for $15?
Not the guy you replied to, but in the USA they can be had at "Goodwill" or "Salvation Army" thrift stores for $20-30...cheaper at pawn shops or through craigslist. I picked up a 2nd wii months ago for $40 and it came with everything including a wii-remote 3 games a Disney Infinity base and 6 infinity characters. I turned around and sold the games for $10 and the infinity garbage for $25. There is a real benefit of the wii being the best selling system of its generation....they are cheap as dirt now.

Sure, portable is irrelevant, but the size of the system is. There is not a smaller system that does as much as the wii. Sure the Pi is small, but I have seen the Pi in action, and it does not do as much as well. There is plenty of discussion about the pi, and no matter how much it gets talked up, it doesn't compare. Pi also doesn't offer native 15khz output.

If you are using an LCD that only has HDMI, any pc that is less than 10 years old does everything better than a Pi. Pi is a niche product that is not the best at anything, but is acceptable for most things. Even if you only have HDMI, a $15 wii to hdmi converter is a simple solution. If your LCD has component, you can output 480p.

>>5357781
>ps1 on pi is great though
If you are on an LCD that only has HDMI, the PC you are using now would be better suited.
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>>5357815
>40 dollar comouter isn't very powerful
really makes me think
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jesus christ, wii shills really on suicide watch this evening. you guys are unpaid volunteers of nintendo? this is really sad to watch. we get it, you're poor and it's a cheap option to do some emulation. but normal people don't want your laggy, outdated-emulator-software-having, risk-of-being-bricked nintendo toys with an interface designed for a gimmicky remote control.
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>>5357858
>Reeeeeeeeee
Nothing you said is accurate in the least bit. I am sorry you spent the time typing it out....Except for the cheap part. They are cheaper than a Pi, and work better.
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>>5357858
So what's the best emulation station? Just a $3000 computer with 3 1080s. Like where do you draw the line? Do you understand the parameters set here. It has nothing to do with being a Wii shill moron, it just so happens to be the console that fits the bill. Before this the best console might be the Vita or the 360.
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>>5357385
>> Can install entire Nintendo Wii Shop library (includes a lot of the great n64 games, basically native)
yeah, no. the wiis emulation isn't "native" there are some pretty big fucking differences from original hardware or a pc running accurate emulators
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>>5357806
you can add your own HD if you're interested in that 360
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>>5357885
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YrP8d4naRF8
pc for the win
more accurate emulators and you can play retro pc games too
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While we're on this topic, any way I can hook up the classic Snes controllers directly to the Wii and skip the wii remote?
It kinda bothers me that I have to keep recharging the batteries.
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The only real advantages Wii has over PC is that it's superior to running Dolphin and the Mario Kart Arcade GP games are based off the GameCube/Wii hardware, so there's a mod to get those to run.
>but muh 1080p grafux!
Don't care.
Otherwise, I'm fine running the most of anything up to PSP on a $300 PC from Best Buy (old one died, got the cheapest one that came with no screen; used the old one) that I got around December-January since I'm lazy & don't want to order fancy parts. The monitor is still the good old, 4:3 aspect ratio LCD.
I also hate how you have to use the sensor on the Wii just to select anything without any other fancier mod to use the controller.

If we're talking about easier to set up, let's assume we don't have either a PC to download the garbage needed to mod the Wii or a Wii itself.
Playing on PC:
>go to store
>get clean, hygienic PC
>set up PC
>download emulator
>play game

Wii method:
>do steps 1-3 above
>dig through idiots' moldy trash trying to find a fully functional Wii that's not encrusted with snots
>read stupid tutorial (on PC)
>download stupid software (on PC)
>softmod Wii

The """cheapness""" already assumes you spent $200+ on a PC anyway, so what's your point?
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>>5357898
Glad you shared this. Now OP can shut up. /thread
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Good thing that I just bought a CIB mint pristine backcompat white Wii with a classic controller, a couple of games and downloaded the shit out of WADS and wiiware just days ago. Feels good desu.
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>>5358252
the soft mod lets you skip the wii controller entirely. you can just select your game via gc controller assuming you had boot2.

you could use someone elses pc to download everything. you probably could do it from your phone. do i really need to spell out the benefits of having your emulation station not your main computer. how many ppl do you have in your house? whos this for? etc. if you had tocome up with 4 emu stations, which would would you choose to do? Wii
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>>5358290
Also that's why I choose the Wii over an odroid, perfect composite 240p output. The Raspberrys have analog composite but are too weak to emulate n64 or let's say Dreamcast. So as long SBC are not powerful enough to push perfect 60fps emulation for retro consoles or/and power to display very high-definition 4K crt shadders i'm sticking with Wii.
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>>5357385
>>>/vg/emugen

>>5357457
Achievement unlocked, unironically.
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>>5358371
muh original hardware muh official expensive as fuck carts and sega saturn cd's, muh my 1500 lines bvm with RGB and blocky as heck

>>>>>>/out/
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>>5358193
You can probably find a snes to gamecube adapter somewhere on the internet, or get a snes style gc controller. And with priiloader you can boot up straight to hbc.
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>>5358715
Yes I know about the snes to gc adapter, but I don't have an original snes controller, only the one from the classic mini snes.
And I've already done the priiloader boot.
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>>5357387
Soulless
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>>5357457
Only a retard can brick a Wii in current year.
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>>5357385
is there a certain homebrew app for playing wii isos, of do i just drop one in an sd card and away i go
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>>5357815
>Pi doesn't offer 15khz output
Except it does over composite, and there are many hats and cable solutions for straight RGB.
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>>5359031
usb loader gx and wiiflow
it is strongly recommended that you use ahardrive for the isos though
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>>5359092
i'll give it a whirl, thanks man
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>>5357385

Unironically the playstation classic (if you're playing on a modern TV).

$50 (and getting lower) gets you an HDMI output little console in a neat case with two quality controllers that can run NES, SNES, GB/GBC/GBA, PSX, **PSP** and more (I've only tested the ones listed) full speed with retroarch. Takes literally 15 minutes and a USB drive to get it set up
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>>5357506
Even gbatemp is a bit hard to read your first time through. I might be kind of retarded but the site isn't easy to navigate or decipher once in the right place
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>>5359217
>$50
got it for $25 last week thanks to goddamn ad on 4chan!
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>10-15 dollar Wiis

Are you by chance the same guy who finds PVMs for free, gets a whole Chicago Pizza for 5 dollars, bought a random low value stock to become richer than Jeff Bezos, and finds dozens of garage kept 240SXes all the time?
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how do virtual console games like oot run on the wii? I heard there are issues with games being too dark.
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>>5359541
I just checked and it's not dark. The only game I know that looks very dark is Star Fox, this has been an issue with 3rd party emulators too.
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>>5358808
>Yes I know about the snes to gc adapter, but I don't have an original snes controller, only the one from the classic mini snes.
https://www.raphnet-tech.com/products/classic_to_gcwii_adapter/index.php
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>>5360791
So the same guy who made the original snes to gc adapters made some for the new snes controllers, I never knew.
Thanks for the link.
I still hate that I have to pay 30 something euros for it and shipping.
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If you're going to emulate on an HD display, I have no idea why you'd even consider using anything but a full fledged PC.
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>>5359031
>is there a certain homebrew app for playing wii isos, of do i just drop one in an sd card and away i go
USBloaderGX with an external Hard drive OR Flash drive. IF you are using a flash drive, you almost always have to format it in the WBFS file format. An actual Harddrive can be Fat32 formatted. A good program to use for WBFS is Wii Backup Manager.


>>5359245
>I might be kind of retarded but the site isn't easy to navigate or decipher once in the right place
No, you are not retarded. GBAtemp however is what I would consider a great resource for the most up to date methods and 3rd party apps. I don't think it is any more complicated than viewing the 4chans. The Wii is not terribly complicated for opening up. You have to add the homebrew channel for everything, which allows for gaming directly from the SD card. You can just add the homebrew (letterbomb or bannerbomb depending on version) channel, and play everything right off of your SD card up to and including Gamecube. I also added USBloaderGX, and the main reason is running Wii games from a backup, but you can also do GC isos from the hard drive as well. The only other thing worth finding is a Wad Manager and all of the Virtual Console games, and these .wad files are certainly available.
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>>5361008
Yeah, i ended up with usbloadergx, nintendont, and wadmanager.
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>>5357385
With the exception of 240p RGB, the PS3 is capable of doing nearly everything a Wii can, and then some.
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>>5359541
you could always play the zelda collection on GameCube. welcome to options
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>>5357385
enjoy 99% of the software being last updated in 2012
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>>5362042
If it works it works.
Nearly all of the popular emulators got updates in the year or two.
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>>5362042
this
>>5362056
it doesn't really work well, if you look into it more than a casual.
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>>5362064
Can you be more specific?
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>>5362056
except it doesn't work
emulator/port patches and bugfixes that the pc version got years ago still have yet to be added to the wii and never will be because the one or two people working on each wii project have long forgotten it exists/given up developing it
and on the offchance whatever it is you want to run has a github that's been updated sometime in the past five years, good luck trying to compile it because it'll completely break if you don't use one autistically specific ancient version of devkitPPC
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>>5357385
I agree that WII is the best emulation bang for your buck, but I disagree with your price. Maybe the price varies locally, but all over the state of Iowa, I found one WII in a thrift store for $30. It had a rockband mic and 3 wiimotes and 3 games. Everywhere else, bare minimum of sensor bar, one controller, power supply, composite cable and maybe wii sports and they want $60 for it. It's still dirt dirt cheap for how good of an emulation box it is, but $30 is the lowest I've ever saw one including garage sales.
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I don't like the term bang for your buck being used to justify getting the cheapest things possible. If you get more bang for more money, that's equally more bang for your buck, quite obviously.
When you go with standard non-console x86 hardware (Almost regardless of the operating system you choose due to available compatibility layers like WINE), you have a fucking massive library of software. Likely with better performance for more compelx things too.

Wii is fucking amazing if you don't need crazy power and/or want RGB 240p out for CRTs. Also pretty decent for native games, though that's irrelevant for emulation.
But, well, that's about it.
That's really not enough bang for my money at all, regardless of how cheap it is.

I still do have one just because. But I wouldn't consider it an amazing deal.
Well, unless you're flat dead broke, already have a TV, and have access to someone else's computer for hacking purposes but no computer of your own for emulation.
It's just too damn niche.

>>5362042
Most emulation related software either still works fine (Nintendon't?) or runs through RetroArch which gets nightly updates.
http://buildbot.libretro.com/nightly/nintendo/wii/
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>>5362104
I saw a complete wii with a couple of accessories at a goodwill for $20 a couple of months ago and skipped it. When I finally went looking for one on CL and offerup people wanted like $50-80. I ended up finding a console and cables at a flea market for $5, but no controllers. The controllers ended up costing me $30. Wii prices are all over the place.
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>>5359449
Speaking as a Brit, Longton Cash Converters in Staffordshire has at least 6 Wii bundles for £15 a pop. One wiimote with nunchuck, console and cables.
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>>5357385
BEEP BEEP MOTHER FUCKER
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>>5357387
additional /thread for emphasis
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>>5357583
I go to thrift stores all the time and I've bought two $20 Wii's in two years. The rest I saw were $50+. Your $15 Wii is not something that can reliably be found.

On the other hand, $15 desktop PCs are fairly common to come across on govdeals. In fact you can get a pallet of them for that price some times. Facebook marketplace is also full of them. A quick check of local FB marketplace and craiglist for Wii's turned up the usual $50+ prices.

If you find a small form factor aka SFF computer such as businesses might surplus those are very small and about as portable as a Wii. Add a cheap GPU with HDMI out and you have something imo mostly superior to the Wii in terms of emulation, although getting 240p out of it is a bit harder.
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>>5357385
I'm going to tell you fucking faggots the BEST cheap emulation station. And I GUARANTEE YOU WILL NOT LISTEN TO ME because no one ever does on this forsaken website.

What you want to look for is a computer with VERY FAST clock speed and decent amount of CPU cache and not to worry about how many cores it has.

This means you are going to be looking at used Xeon CPUs from the enterprise market. But not the big hex or octo or deca core units. Just the paltry quad and dual core units. Because you want SPEED, not parallel processing power. Emulators for ps2/3/wii/wii u need one big fucking super-fast thread to achieve stable frame rates.

I can't tell you a single CPU or computer to buy because the market changes every day, but this is the kind of thing you want to look for
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-OPTIPLEX-790-SFF-INTEL-XEON-E3-1245-3-30GHz-8GB-RAM-1TB-HDD-NO-OS-SKU-380/283369662175?epid=219528940&hash=item41fa25e6df:g:MpMAAOSwoMlcXEqU:rk:1:pf:1&frcectupt=true

8 gigabytes of RAM is plenty for emulation. A terabyte of storage is plenty to get started with.

SSD? Don't need it! But it's nice to swap the HDD with one down the road to eliminate the HDD noise.

Add in a a cheap low-profile AMD GPU to allow you to use CRT_emu driver, and then buy a JROK converter to send 240p video to your CRT when you need to if you want to change this from "best cheap emu station" to "the ultimate emu station".
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>>5364786
I didn't even notice but that computer ALREADY HAS a radeon GPU in it of some type, probably a 7470 1gb. So it's ready to go.
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Wii is invaluable if you wanna emulate in RGB attached to a CRT. Nothing beats it except OG hardware. Period. There is no argument about this. Contra III, Rondo, ALttP, Thunder Force IV, etc played on a beautiful CRT using an amped sound system, all through one game machine, is pretty goddamn awesome.

PC is superior for emulation, but emulating on LCD monitors is a matter of taste.

And that's all there really is to it.
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>>5364807
Hey dumbass

you can emulation in RGB 240p from a computer too
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>>5364812
Not without doing all kinds of bullshit you can't.
Hooking up a trinitron to a PC is far more work than it's worth.

Face it. You have shit taste. There is no arguing this either, so do not bother.
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>>5364838
ya just too dumb to do it right
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>>5364838
"all kinds of bullshit"
imagine being this incapable, and this much of a nintendocuck.
soft modding a wii is harder than hooking up my pc to a crt.
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go to a garage sale and get a computer
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>>5364883
Is it now? So you went out and bought a special adapter for your GPU to attach to a consumer TV? How much did it cost? What is your GPU? Some more modern GPUs cannot output properly.
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>>5357385
Not in my country they ain't.

>>5357387 is the universal solution.
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>>5364901
You just use a GPU with component or s-video out. It's really not that complicated to figure out.
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>>5364901
>Some more modern GPUs cannot output properly.
Then don't use one you idiot. No adapter needed.
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>>5364923
That won't get you 240p. Don't respond if you don't know what you're talking about.
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>>5364930
>>5364923
So searching out and buying a legacy GPU and adapter is more cost and time efficient than buying a Wii and component cables. Then you gotta run cables all over your living room. I mean, you don't have your CRT right next to your PC do you?
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>>5357418
>lost modded xbox during a move years ago
>all those games
>all that pre 2010 porn
>gone
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>>5357815
>the PC you are using now

I didn't know there were usable ps1 emulation options on Android
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>>5364936
>So searching out and buying a legacy GPU and adapter is more cost and time efficient than buying a Wii and component cables.
How lazy are you going to be? it takes a few minutes of work to decide on which older GPU you want, and then a few more to buy it off of ebay. For something you presumably are going to be spending hours playing games with.
>Then you gotta run cables all over your living room.
No, you don't. what the hell are you talking about? You'll have the same number of cables as the Wii: power, av, and controller. Just power and av if you go with wireless controllers. You don't need to keep a keyboard connected because you have set it up to boot straight into a front-end with controller support.
>I mean, you don't have your CRT right next to your PC do you?
Why wouldn't I? This is a dedicated emulation PC, not my personal desktop PC. And even if I did need to run cables it can be done in unobtrusive ways.

Wii has trouble with anything past 16 bit era games, and playing anything outside the usual channels of Famicom/Megadrive/SFC/MAME is a pain in the ass.

A computer like this one here>>5364786
is massively more powerful than a Wii with multitudes more flexibility in what it can do with emulation. It can also natively play PC games that the Wii could never play. For $105 shipped.
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>>5357506
All NeoGeo games should run now in Retroarch Wii with the hacked FBA NeoGeo core which allows a cache to be used to load bigger games that weren't playable because of the low amount of RAM the Wii has
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>>5364901
>So you went out and bought a special adapter for your GPU to attach to a consumer TV?
You don't need a special adapter with AMD cards.
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>>5364968
Uh, I think you do
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>>5358826
Get out
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>>5364963
>>5364968
Nobody recommends a PC to attach to a consumer CRT. There's a good reason for that. It SUCKS.
The Wii does not suck. It's small, quiet, cool, doesn't look stupid next to a CRT, accepts gamecube controllers and SNES mini controllers, etc.
For everything else there's simple hacked PSPs or PS2s.

I'm not saying PC sucks. I use it from time to time, especially for MAME. But saying the Wii is bad for emulation is completely wrong. It's the second best option overall, and if you want CRT action, it is the indisputable king for emu purposes.
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>>5357428
>Name be a better emulation station that runs the equivalent of n64 games better than the WiiVC,
Anything that isn't WiiVC since even Nintendo can't emulate N64 games right
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>>5364932
>>5364936
CRT_EmuDriver or Soft15Khz with an older ATI cards outputs 240p 15khz. There are a lot of other options, too. It's really not that complicated to figure out. Try google.com
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>>5357463
>>5357469
VC only got a fraction of Neogeo games.
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>>5357385
>Can install entire Nintendo Wii Shop library (includes a lot of the great n64 games, basically native)
Enjoy your official shitty inaccurate emulation then. Wii N64 games are barely above Project 64 1.6 tier.
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>wii shills at 50% health
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>>5365007
OR just buy a Wii.
Or, if you're like any proper games enthusiast, you already own one! I mean, how can you NOT own one unless you're some fanboy shithead? Fuckers are dirt cheap and there's plenty of GC and Wii games to play on it.
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>>5365002
God you're a massive faggot
>Nobody recommends a PC to attach to a consumer CRT. There's a good reason for that. It SUCKS.
Prove it, aside from being a poor nigger.
>The Wii does not suck. It's small, quiet, cool, doesn't look stupid next to a CRT,
All which have fuckall to do with emulation
>For everything else there's simple hacked PSPs or PS2s.
Both of which are outdated underpowered options for emulation
>But saying the Wii is bad for emulation is completely correct
Fixed
>It's the fourth best option overall, and if you want CRT action,
Fixed
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>>5365029
>Or, if you're like any proper games enthusiast, you already own one
You're fucking pathetic. Enjoy your underpowered white brick and shitty VC emulators.
>how can you NOT own one unless you're some fanboy shithead?
>proceeds to jizz pants over MUH WII
Impeccableself awareness there. Nintoddlers seemed to have aged in reverse.
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>>5365029
No, the input lag, shitty emulation, terrible GUI and risk of bricking it are some of the reasons I won't buy a Wii.
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>>5365002
PVM looks great on my desk. If I were going to put a PC in my living room I could buy a smaller case that’d look much more attractive than that ugly white slab.

>>5365029
You’re a queer desu.
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>>5365035
>>5365037
You're just wrong though, Hammond.
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>>5365039
And you too, May.
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>>5365040
>>5365041
>t.
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Say what you want but I've used a wii, wii u, and pc as an emulation station. My rasberrypi has been the one I play the most.
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>>5364786
You could get a Ryzen 5 2400G premade PC and it would be better for modern games (and they're now CRT_EmuDriver ready too) but that's a good option nonetheless
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>>5365052
USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII USE YOUR WII
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>>5364962
Between PCSX-ReARMed, FPse, and ePSXe, you can probably get something running pretty well.
Though touchscreen controls and task scheduling will probably get in your way.
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>>5365052
Stop it! Sell your Wii U, PC, and Raspberry Pi immediately. Buy as many Wiis as you can. Yes you'll be restricted in controller type and emulation, but do it. Use a Wii to emulate.
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Wii is a pain in the ass to set up for emulation.

Best option is PC, end of story. I have all my ROMs loaded into retroarch (which is also a pain in the ass, but other solutions are available) and I use a steam link to play on my couch.
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>>5364786
Gonna word this. I work in the IT department for a mid-sized company and we have hundreds of these things in storage. They're incredibly reliable and you can easily throw a better video card in to get reasonable performance in emulation or PC games released before 2007ish.

I've stolen a bunch of them over the years for various projects like this.
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>>5357418
>but you absolutely need to remove the clock capacitor or it could damage your motherboard
modderfag here, this is false info. I've never once had to do this, and none of my modded consoles have ever failed
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>>5357385
>> Can install entire Nintendo Wii Shop library (includes a lot of the great n64 games, basically native)
how do you do this
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>>5365054
Wouldn't be nearly as cheap though. And the main argument in this thread is ``bang for your buck'', for whatever reason (Despite ignoring a lot of bang from stronger systems just because of their cost). Something that strong with the entire x86 software library for $100 is quite the contender.
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>>5365000
Nobody pays you to 'think'.
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>>5365087
google
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>>5365029
oh boy a robust library of motion gimmicks and shovelware
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>>5365002
>cool
maybe if you're gay or a woman
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>>5365090
Yeah but the 7470 specifically sucks nowadays performance-wise, the dedicated AMD GPU on my laptop is way stronger and it can't run a lot of modern games reliably
I can't even begin to fathom if that thing could emulate Wii or even Dreamcast
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>>5365002
>Nobody recommends a PC to attach to a consumer CRT.
Except all the people in this thread who have made comprehensive arguments for it, as well as many others on every major retro gaming website.
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>>5365118
I didn't mean "cool" as in "hip", daddy-o.
I mean it runs cool. As in NOT like larger more watt-consuming pieces of equipment.
Is this who I'm arguing with ITT? Explains everything.
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>>5365147
imagine being so impoverished that a desktop computer's power consumption is too expensive for you
so which shithole are you from? i'm guessing either brazil or eastern europe
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>>5365000
Quadro and Firepro do not need them.
https://www.aussiearcade.com/showthread.php/87668-A-guide-to-connecting-your-Windows-PC-to-an-SD-CRT-TV-PVM-or-Arcade-Monitor
Various other cards don't either. Any card made before 2008 or so will not need it as long as Soft15khz or advancemame support it.
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>>5365147
If running cool is your priority, just use a Pi.
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>>5365007
You said
>You just use a GPU with component or s-video out.
That will not provide 240p by itself. There are no cards out there that will send component or s-video 240p out. You have to use RGB out and convert with an external box.
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>>5365154
>>5365159
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>>5364786
>Add in a a cheap low-profile AMD GPU to allow you to use CRT_emu driver, and then buy a JROK converter to send 240p video to your CRT
Unnecessary if your CRT already accepts RGB video.
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>>5365157
Holy fuck we got kids in here defending pis over wiis.

I'm done, the thread is a giant troll.
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>>5365138
>I can't even begin to fathom if that thing could emulate Wii or even Dreamcast
e3-1245 is almost as powerful as your Ryzen CPU, but your Ryzen system will be over triple the cost.

Just so you know, it would rip through Wii or DC emulation without blinking if paired with an appropriate GPU.
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>>5365173
you can't even play DC on wii desu
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>>5365173
>calling others children when you've been shilling the wii for this long
it's okay sport, maybe if you save up enough of your allowance you can buy a real computer :)
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>>5365183
I never doubted the CPU power, I said the GPU was the issue in that build, and at that point getting a new card would elevate the cost enough so both are comparable unless the GPU you got was used
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hi
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>>5365195
>and at that point getting a new card would elevate the cost enough so both are comparable unless the GPU you got was used
Of course it would be used. Look where you are. You are on /vr/. The default position to buy is used.

A GTX 1050 can be had on ebay for around $100
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-Geforce-GTX-1050-OC-Low-Profile-2GB-GDDR5-128-Bit-PCI-E-Graphic-Card/113634405070?epid=9019591270&hash=item1a75236ace:g:TA8AAOSw1xZcYk3h:rk:1:pf:1&frcectupt=true

The 1050 easily eclipses the Ryzen integrated GPU. The resulting system would be able to play current gen AAA games at good frame rates and settings. For around $200 and change.
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>>5357385
What's the best, current guide for setting this up?
I softmodded one years ago, but I'd like to start from scratch with a few surplus wiis I own.

What's a good external hard drive for storage with this thing? I saw someone on ebay had plugged this drive into the wii they were selling in the photo attached.

I agree, it's great. The classic controller is great. I used mine a lot for mega drive and SNES games.
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>>5365508
Honestly, I prefer to have less games on a smaller drive plugged into my wii. I had a terabyte HDD plugged in to it and I ended up playing less than I do now with 10-20 games on a thumb drive I got for free.
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>>5365237
With a 1050 you lost the ability to connect to a CRT
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I wanted something like the Wii, with PS1 emulation. Too bad there isn't such a thing for cheap.
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>>5365508
>What's a good external hard drive for storage with this thing?
The most I use my external for is Wii & GC iso. My livingroom wii uses a 32gb flash card and a 100gb SSD as an external USB, and I have 70+ games on the external. I used "Wii backup Manager" to format the drive and to load Wii games, and the GC games can be dragged/dropped into the "Games" folder.

>>5365693
>I had a terabyte HDD plugged in to it and I ended up playing less than I do now with 10-20 games on a thumb drive I got for free.
Thumb drives work great when using a WBFS file format, but I have had little luck with using a fat32 format. WBFS file format only uses Wii titles, whereas fat32 will allow for both GC and Wii games.

I don't much care for many wii games at all, and it is somewhat amazing how many you can fit onto a 32-64gb thumb drive.
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>>5365910
I had a newer Maxtor thumb drive that would only work when formatted to wbfs and not in fat32. There's a compatibility list somewhere but even that has inaccuracies, as it listed the 64gb Maxtor I tried as compatible with fat32. I lucked out and a 32gb giveaway thumb drive I had works perfectly in fat32 and is more than enough for the couple dozen gamecube games I want to play.
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>>5365719
I'm not sure if it has enough slots or space, but if it can fit both in at the same time then you could supposedly use the cheapo AMD card (That it may come with) for CRT out and a 1050 for processing.
That aside, you only really lose the ability to connect directly. Converters will also work, for better or mostly worse.

I think all of those options are fair enough, depending on power, functionality, and convenience desired.
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>>5365719
ackshually I technically did not

GTX 900 series still has analog, but I think you need the EDID dongle if you're going to be sending 240p60. 240p120 will work without it.
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>>5366008
If we're talking a CRT monitor, even the integrated Intel GPU can output 240p120, I've done it before
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>>5366008
>xbr960
Curious. Is that one of the ones that always scales (and maybe filters) to 1080i regardless of input? Or does it output low resolutions natively?
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>>5365910
>>5365693
Thanks for the advice. I'm definitely someone that just wants good solid, choice games, instead of feeling smug about having EVERYTHING on a drive.

DESU these things seem almost too good to be true, I've never been attracted to the pi's. I was thinking of setting these up as presents for friends. There's just so many wiis floating about my area that turn up in charity shops, or are people just trying to get rid of them.
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>>5365929
>I lucked out and a 32gb giveaway thumb drive I had works perfectly in fat32 and is more than enough for the couple dozen gamecube games I want to play.
Most thumb drives do not, and finding one that does work in fat32 is rare. I had in my pile of shit an 8gb Sandisk that worked, so I bought a 256gb, and though it would format with fat 32, nothing seemed to work right. I ended up settling in with using a 64gb mini thumb drive for my "backup" wii formatted to wbfs. Most all of the classic games will fit on an 16gb SDHC flash drive. You are right that some work, while others dont. With the way that thumb drives are created, there is no guarantee that one that someone else had will work for you either. It really is hit or miss. It is a sound plan that IF you want to use GC games on your wii via a back up USB that you plan on an actual USB Hard drive or SSD.

>>5366160
>Thanks for the advice. I'm definitely someone that just wants good solid, choice games, instead of feeling smug about having EVERYTHING on a drive.
Not a problem. I really enjoy the wii for what it is. They are common and cheap, and are compatible with many peripherals. Once you spend time using them you find out what you really need for space. I Think I can fit 70+ Wii games onto a 100gb ssd. I run the few GC games that are worth a damn from a 32gb SD card along with all of the older Cart systems. The old cart systems are full collections of SNES, NES & Genesis. I have a few Sega CD games on there as well, but they are larger than cart games. Overall, I think a 250gb external HDD would be more than sufficient for most people to have a collection larger than they can imagine. Wii games are generally shit, and I can't think of more than a few that are any fun, but it was my kids first "new" video game system. We do have a fuck ton of games. I liked that it would play both of my Gamecube games well and replaced my Snes, genesis and NES.
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>>5357385
>Why do any of this when you'll barely get to play Ps1/n64 games at good framerates on retropi.
Because a linux computer has much better support than an aging wii
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>>5366239
>Because a linux computer has much better support than an aging wii
You may have missed the OP's point entirely. However, I will ask the question.

>How much support does software need that works as intended on a standardized piece of hardware?
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>>5366130
Yes, it always scales to 1080i. There is also about 20 ms of lag when using a native 1080i signal (more when it scales a non-native signal; don't do that).

A computer connected to such a TV through HDMI would have a fantastic picture, and with the user of shaders (please spare us all the ignorant "why would you use shaders on a CRT" comments) the overall experience should rate very high in the scope of emulation possibilities.
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How low can you go?
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Not trolling, just bought a Wii, how do I mod it? Someone here said it was easy but I looked it up and it's tons of steps https://www.instructables.com/id/Softmod-any-Wii-Version-10-43/
Is there a simpler guide for a brainlet like me?
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>>5366780
https://sites.google.com/site/completesg/hacking-guide
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>>5366786
Thanks. But damn. This was a fucking mistake. I feel like I got trolled by the Wii shills.
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>>5366834
just do what I did and buy a pre modded one on ebay
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>>5357385
Given how cheap Wiis are, sure, the Wii is a great option for an emulation station. For on the go, though, I'd still give it to the PSP, or a hacked PS Vita since it basically also has a PSP inside it.
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>>5366856
Those are expensive. And I already bought a used Wii just now.
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>>5366780
>>5366834
The guides are confusing because there are many (nowadays irrelevant). You should only check that your system software is version 4.3 and then use the Letterbomb exploit.
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>>5366860
I wouldn't really give it to the PSP though. The 333Mhz MIPS processor severely limits what it can do as far as emulation goes.
SNES and GBA are skippy, slow, hackfests. Especially SNES, which is based on an ancient PalmOS port of Snes9x 1.42 with extra speedhacks that still isn't lightweight enough to prevent slowdowns.
Then the screens on 1k/2k have heavy ghosting, while 3ks have weird interlacing. And the GO, which finally had decent screen quality, sacrifices the PSP's nice form factor that makes it desirable in the first place.
Not to mention the 480x272 resolution that makes emulated games generally quite small at 1x, non-integer scaled at fullscreen thus blurry or warped depending on settings, or cropped off at 2x scale.
It's just, you know, not good enough. No matter how cheap it generally is the whole thing feels so incredibly sub-par for the job.

The Vita is a little better because it actually more power to work with when using native emulators (Mostly RetroArch) and a fairly nice OLED screen.
Though it is kind of large so it's not usually pocket-tier portable. And the 960x544 resolution is still kind of weird for integers (Though much better for 3xGB/C/A)
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>>5366780
lol you got worked
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>>5367064
>>5367083
Still trying. This sucks. And my genuine gamecube controller won't work on the home menu so I had to go get a "wiimote"

This is not fun. When I setup my pi it took like 8 minutes.
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>>5367064
Still trying. The steps are convoluted, have typos, and don't even go all the way through how to actually run a game. I wonder if I will even be able to play something before tonight.

As far as I understand, I have to follow the steps here
https://sites.google.com/site/completesg/hacking-guide/4-3-guide,
here https://sites.google.com/site/completesg/backup-launchers/installation,
and here https://sites.google.com/site/completesg/backup-launchers/usb

I'm working on it, but this was a big mistake.
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>>5367235
I didn't have much trouble. You some kind of brainlet?
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>>5367240
I already called myself a brainlet here >>5366780

Update: This is not a joke. I have to pay Nintendo $0.50 to get a "master code" to reset the parental controls on this used Wii. https://parentalcontrols.nintendo.com/?sys=wii

Looks like I won't be gaming tonight. I'll keep you guys updated.
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Thanks for the great idea faggots. If the emulation is bad, or this thing gets bricked, I'm going to be so mad.
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>>5367249
>faggots
>s
it's just one thirdworlder who's been shilling this gimped shitslab, prepare to be disappointed
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>>5367252
I'm about $30 and a few hours into this already, I'm already very disappointed. Mostly in myself for listening to the anti-open-source, nintendrone shills.
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>>5367249
https://wii.marcan.st/parental
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>>5367278
Thanks anon! That worked, I'm moving to the next step.
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>>5367320
>>5367324
Ajajajajajajajajajajajaja pinche pendejo tratando de difamar a la Wii xD
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>>5367235
>Still trying. The steps are convoluted, have typos, and don't even go all the way through how to actually run a game. I wonder if I will even be able to play something before tonight.
Update your wii to the latest version before you do any "hacking".

From there go to https://please.hackmii.com/ And follow the instructions. You must have an SD card to do this method. I have used this site 3 times now without issue. This will allow you to add "apps" which is fancy talk for 3rd party programs. From there you can add whatever emulation you want to run from SD card.
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>>5367374
Yes, did that, but now stuck on the cIOS installation steps. I can't get NUS downloader to work, it just freezes at the end of "downloading required files"
>>5367327
I had to go to the store and get a different SD card. Now I'm about $50 into this.

I'm absolutely determined to play Sega Saturn tonight on my Wii.
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>>5367357
Basado y rojo pilled
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>>5367384
>I can't get NUS downloader to work
You shouldn't need any of that. Are you trying to get USBloader working?
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>>5367374
>Update your wii to the latest version before you do any "hacking".
Not him, and I don't have a Wii yet (Only want it for native games, not emulation). But didn't Ninty completely shutdown support for Wii? How, then, would one go about updating the console? Was it only the eshop or whatever Wii had that got shutdown, rather than update support entirely?
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>>5367384
>play Sega Saturn tonight on my Wii.
Are you retarded?
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Typical /v/ shitters come to argue against one of the best options in gaming because of console wars faggotry. The wii is incredible for gamers. For one you're playing on an actual console so it boots fast and looks legit to friends you're showing games to. It supports some of the best controllers available (wii pro and gamecube). Older games play perfectly and look good on crtvs and to top it all off it has a built in gamecube. If this machine doesn't appeal to you, why are you on /vr/?
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>>5367393
Thanks I misunderstood the instructions (it says if you "want to load backup games from a USB drive" but you made me realize I can just load them from the SD card). Getting closer...
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>>5367404
>and looks legit to friends
Not that I don't agree with the rest of the points, but what the fuck does this even mean and why should anyone care?
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>>5367384
>I'm absolutely determined to play Sega Saturn tonight on my Wii.
Whoa there. Saturn emulators are questionable enough as it is on PC, with SSF, Yabause, and Mednafen/beetle. It's even worse on Wii where you ONLY have Yabause and limited power to work with at that.
I would not expect much from that, at least.
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>>5367401
Why does that make me retarded? Everyone is always posting about how great the Wii is for emulating.
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>>5367410
Ok, so no Dreamcast, no Neo-Geo, and now you're telling me no Saturn? How is MAME on it?
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>>5367397
>Was it only the eshop or whatever Wii had that got shutdown, rather than update support entirely?
Oh fuck, I don't know. The 4.3 version has been out for years, but IF it doesn't work than letter bomb may not work, and you would have to go back to bannerbomb exploit.

As for updating the IOS, I use a homebrew app called Wad Manager 1.7. It is in my Apps folder on my SD card. I also have a folder on my sd card called "wads" that I keep any wad files I may want to use. This includes any cIos and virtual console games that I may have. Its been 5-6 months since I added homebrew to a wii.

>>5367408
>but what the fuck does this even mean and why should anyone care?
I think he means that it doesn't look like some retarded non-system like a pi and using controllers not made with nintendium.

>>5367413
>Everyone is always posting about how great the Wii is for emulating.
If you think the saturn emulation is good, just wait until you load up 32x emulation.

>>5367417
>Neo-Geo
Works great from either official Virtual console titles, and others have stated that retroarch runs it well also.
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>>5367413
it's decent at best for up to 4th gen, and can play gamecube and wii games
it's ok if you're poor and are really autistic about playing things on a crt but that's about it
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>>5367417
Saturn might work. To some degree. It's just going to be quite spotty like SNES on PSP.

As for MAME, you're stuck with old builds for performance's sake. So make sure you have an old romset to go with that.
Supposedly Final Burn Alpha works much better in general for games it supports.
I never really got into arcade or Wii emulation enough to test it.
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>>5367420
>think he means that it doesn't look like some retarded non-system like a pi and using controllers not made with nintendium.
Again, why does that even matter?
What kind of friends do you have that judge your systems based on the way they look? And why do you even care in the first place?
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>>5367421
Gamecube and Wii games aren't even retro. And they're mostly for kids. I just want to play 4th and 5th generation retro games.
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>>5367426
So what CAN I play? Is there anything with an up to date emulator?
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>>5367404
Because its emulation capabilities are subpar and GameCube and Wii games aren’t retro. Quit trying to be a Scotsman, Carlos.
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>>5367428
>Again, why does that even matter?
Again it doesn't look like some retarded non-system like a pi and using controllers not made with nintendium.
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>>5367430
both of those are gonna be better off run on your pc, unless you really need a crt
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>>5367438
>Because its emulation capabilities are subpar
Works great for NES, SNES, Genesis & Sega CD. Explain what you mean by "Sub par"
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>>5367413
>Everyone is always posting about how great the Wii is for emulating
Always be skeptic about blind praise and marketing. If something doesn't fully articulate both pros and cons on a product to buy, it's probably worth looking elsewhere, either for another review or another product.

The Wii is okay enough for a lot of things. Mostly weaker things. It can at least fully handle Yoshi's Island at fullspeed, which so many things cannot, even if it takes an optimized build of Snes9x (Snes-NEXT or Snes2010+ now, something like that).
It has native RGB 240p out for CRTs, which is incredibly nice where relevant. That's where a lot of praise comes from. Well, that and the general used price being good to acceptable.

>>5367432
The most "up to date" emulators are included in retroarch.
http://buildbot.libretro.com/nightly/nintendo/wii/
As for what you can emulate, 4th gen and back should work, well, well enough.
Any games natively on the VC should work well enough to be playable. Though most if not all N64 games are rendered at 640x480, have slightly lower framerates in many cases, and are sometimes changed a bit from older versions (Most notably Zelda games)

Personally I'd only bother with it for native Wii/GC games, or either really old emulation with 240pRGB out. Otherwise it's just plain spotty.
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Anyone else trick out their wii? My friends were so fucking jealous when they saw how baller mine looked
#reppin
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>>5367408
Because some people like to play games with other people and flipping on a video game console is a lot cooler than booting up your spare autism pc. Especially with people are who are hesitant to try older games. It generally just creates a warmer atmosphere for playing games.
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>>5367404
I want to play some old arcade games but I'm reading about it on Wii and:

- For small roms (2-4MB, CPS1) can take 3-5 minutes to load.

- For large roms (13-20MB, CPS2, NEOGEO) It can take 30-60 minutes to load.

After the loading part, it plays at normal speed (85-90% of original speed without frameskip and without lags).

- Problems using TV in 480p or rgb components
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>>5357385
A Vita, PSP power with better build quality and a real analog stick
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>>5367448
>flipping on a video game console is a lot cooler than booting up your spare autism pc
Lol, are you in middle school or something?
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Kinda glad people shit on the wii. Not emulation related but honestly the wii is one of the absolute best systems to collect for right now. It's affordable and the library rules.

Also
>"but shovelware!!"
The amount of great games is probably higher than the dreamcast. Just don't buy the shovelware!
>"but waggle"
That controller is great pussies
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>>5367440
That really depends on whether or not your computer can handle Ubershaders to get rid of that fuckawful shader compilation stutter.
Resolution really isn't everything.
Texture replacements, overclocking, and 60FPS hacks where available are certainly nice.
But if the game is stuttering constantly everytime something happens it's going to be annoying as hell.
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>>5367448
Most people don’t care about 240p or CRTs. Wii looks like absolute shit on 4K sets and a Pi will be just as discrete and more normalfag friendly than your Brazilian box.
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>>5367448
>flipping on a video game console is a lot cooler than booting up your spare autism pc
wat. As long as the game itself is presentable, and you have acceptable controllers (Be it Dualshocks, 3shitties, Wii/U/Pros, or some fancy 8shitdo), the loading environment and case should never, ever fucking matter.
I swear you people worry about some weird stuff.
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>>5367453
>That controller is great pussies
Plugging in a classic controller pro removes the need for "waggle" unless you are playing some dumb wii game that needs that feature.
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>>5367453
Why are you so defensive about your purchase, anon? Do you see the Wii as an extension of yourself?
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>>5367446
Wii/GC games aren't retro.
So that leaves me with only "really old" emulation? For around $50 (console, power/video cords, wiimote, sensor, sd card) and a few hours of setup?

This is not bang for my buck
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>>5367441
The fact that it’s limited to 4th gen home consoles and can’t even run the most accurate SNES emulator.
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>>5367464
yes I do
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>>5367451
Look, I get it. If you're stuck in your own little bubble playing games alone in your room it's fine to just run them off your laptop and sort your folders. Some people just like to have a pure gaming experience with solid hardware.
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>>5367463
Fact. It's fun for the games the utilize it well though.
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>>5367471
If only the Wii was solid hardware.
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>>5367459
>Most people don’t care about 240p or CRTs.
This is a retro games forum, and aside from "pc" games, all the systems output 240p/480i except the dreamcast. Most of the PC games that are discussed don't operate well on a contemporary wide screen LCD, and at times only operate at 4:3 aspect involving low resolutions.

>>5367465
>few hours of setup?
If it takes more than an hour, you might as well give up.
>>5367467
>The fact that it’s limited to 4th gen home consoles and can’t even run the most accurate SNES emulator.
I was only commenting on the systems I have emulated. Please EXPLAIN in detail what you mean by "Most accurate". What is "less accurate" from Snes9xGX vs (MOST ACCURATE). What differences will I encounter?

>>5367472
>It's fun for the games the utilize it well though.
WarioWare inc and possibly the SMB wii.
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>>5367465
>This is not bang for my buck
Indeed. Unless you find a really good deal less than $50, and really really want native, low latency 240pRGB out for CRTs, it is not a good bang for your buck, emulation-wise. There's just not enough bang for it to really be worth any money in that case.

Really should have looked into it before buying based on some random hype, honestly. But whatever.
Best you can do, really, is shove some SNES or something on a CRT through component 240p. That's always nice.
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>>5367475
Yea I mean I guess it's no xbone. Good point bro!
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>>5367478
>This is a retro forum
And people who are hesitant to try older games don’t post here. Your point is moot.
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>>5367459
>>5367462
>>5367475
Why are you guys so desperate to console war? Can you really not see the points Im making about an authentic gaming experience? This thread is a little too /v/ for my liking I guess.
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>>5367479
>That's always nice.
It is the most powerful 240p video game console.
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>>5367467
Truth be told, you don't actually need bSNES in most cases. 9x works just as good generally, and even better when it comes to romhack support (due to bad decisions in making hacks but whatever).
Wii is at least strong enough to handle 9x1.52, so it DOES have LLE audio. The lack of that is something that's usually a complete dealbreaker for other systems emulating SNES, like say, PSP.
I'd say, for that system, it is at least on par rather than sub par.
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>>5367483
>And people who are hesitant to try older games don’t post here.
They come to /vr/ because they are hesitant about playing older games?
>>5367483
>Your point is moot.
You didn't read the entirety of the post, or you are just selectively quoting. Re-read what I wrote. Read it a second time if you have to. Let me know what part you don't understand.
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>>5367484
this whole board is too /v/ for my liking. idk why I'm still here
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>>5367478
I didn't give up, and it took more than an hour because this is my first time using a Wii or doing anything like this. I'm really close though, I'm transferring a rom to my SD card right now. I hope the Wii doesn't take too long to load the rom.
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>>5367484
Again, wat. It has nothing to do with a console war. You're saying something as stupid as the case or loading environment is actually a big deal. Like, just play the games. It's authentic enough as long as you have decent controllers and "working" audiovisual output. In now way does it need to be any specific console, or any console at all.
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Update: opening the Saturn emulator gives me "exception occurs" and then the Wii crashes.

Opening a rom in mame crashes.

I can post pics if anyone wants.

I guess I'll try to play an Atari game or something. Can anyone tell me an emulator and a rom that actually works on Wii?
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>>5367495
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Using this Wiimote and sensor bar is so annoying and awkward by the way. This whole thing sucks.

Still going to try hard to play one retro video game on the Wii before bed.
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>>5367510
Oh. That was sarcasm then. I'm dumb, but Poe's Law is a thing I guess.
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>>5367493
>it took more than an hour because this is my first time using a Wii or doing anything like this.
I apologize. The biggest issue with wii modding is consolidated sources of current information. Once you have the homebrew channel installed, it is all about file structure of the Flash card and possibly the external hard drive if you have one.

Pic related is the files that are on my SD card right now>>5367513
>>5367508
>Can anyone tell me an emulator and a rom that actually works on Wii?

Snes9xGX (Snes)
FCEUGX (NES)
Genplus (Multiple Sega systems including Sega CD)

>Using this Wiimote and sensor bar is so annoying and awkward by the way.
Wii classic controller pro, Classic controller or either the SNES classic or NES classic controllers work as well.
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>>5367508
snes9x
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>>5367513
Put the thing away and do some google work. I promise you if I could figure it out, you can too.
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>>5367485
Sure. But that still is incredibly niche.
And kind of misleading, since there's no real reason to limit yourself to consoles alone. You can get 240pRGB out of standard computers with CRT_EmuDriver and have a lot more power to work with. Of course that can cost more, but you DO get more bang for your buck that way.
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There was this hilarious greentext from /v/ about a guy that had friends over and decided to pull out his desktop computer and hook it to his TV to play games, and his friends ended up ridiculing him for it. It was clearly fictional and exaggerated as usual, but I almost wonder if the same thing happened to >>5367448 and now he's traumatized and super self conscious about what people will think about his emulation box.
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>>5367523
>But that still is incredibly niche.
You are posting on a niche board that is specific to video game systems that output 240p. If you are looking for High definition gaming, try /v/. I don't mean this in a mean way either. Every video game system outside of the Dreamcast is a 240p/480i gaming system.

>>5367523
>You can get 240pRGB out of standard computers with CRT_EmuDriver and have a lot more power to work with. Of course that can cost more, but you DO get more bang for your buck that way.
It costs considerably more. Some people don't have RGB televisions, and this would require some sort of adaptation from RGB to component, svideo or even composite to connect to their TV. Not to mention that the wii takes up a similar amount of physical space as a standard ATX Psu. In addition, a computer will use more power, and be considerably louder with even the PSU fan making more noise than a wii.

The wii offers 240p output and is the most powerful console to do so. I do agree that this is not for everyone, but among /vr/ 240p is desirable. If you have an LCD and are used to High definition content, the PC you are typing on would probably be better in most cases. Many "retro gamers" have standard definition tvs as core components to their game stations.
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>>5367525
It's one thing to use a PC, set up with a frontend and just werks.
It's another to drag out a tower or laptop, keep a keyboard and mouse nearby, and fiddle with settings while you friends sit around with nothing to do.
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>>5367487
>They come to /vr/ because they are hesitant about playing older games?
They, as in, your random normalfag friend? Highly unlikely. This is one of the more niche retro forums on the net.
>Let me know what part you don't understand.
You’re the one misunderstanding. I don’t have a problem with low resolutions, non-widescreen aspect ratios, etc. Older, unmodded consoles look terrible on modern displays—that doesn’t make the Wii’s visual quality on them any better.
Normies who aren’t into retro gaming are going to notice a blurry, upscaled picture before anything else. So if your goal is to create an appealing environment to play retro games (for normies) there are much better options.
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>>5367519
>>5367520
It's working!

Unfortunately I can't play any of the games I want to play (Saturn, PS1, arcade, etc.) but I did manage to get Yoshi's Island running, though the A and B buttons are swapped.

There's an extra frame or two of input lag for my liking, but I'm more sensitive to that stuff than most people.

Overall, would I recommend this project to someone else thinking about doing it? No, not at all. But it was an interesting learning experience and thanks to the people in this thread that helped me.
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>>5367538
>Overall, would I recommend this project to someone else thinking about doing it? No, not at all.
Considering how painful reading your blog was, you're not qualified to give a recommendation.
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>>5367541
Cry more, Carlos.
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>>5367536
I think you and I are on the same page, but are having a communication error. I am not talking about playing games on contemporary displays. I don't even consider playing any of the /vr/ games on an LCD or even one of the ED CRTs. If you are gaming on a flatscreen or Le Uber 14k /6 gorillion hz displays, certainly there are better options...like a pc. But if you have one of these super displays, money is obviously not an object to you and you will incidentally have quad SLI RTX 385. LCDs are not retro.

>>5367538
>It's working!
Congrats!

>>5367538
>There's an extra frame or two of input lag for my liking
Are you playing it on an LCD?
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>>5367541
What was painful about it? I thought it might help others who are like me and can learn from my experience. Sorry for providing original content, I guess I should just shitpost like you.

>>5367534
The Rpi is more powerful and has 240p http://arcadeforge.net/Pi2Jamma-Pi2SCART/PI2SCART::264.html

The Rpi can do all old retro consoles the Wii can do, plus 4th and 5th generation like PS1, Dreamcast, arcade.
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>>5367541
>f-fuck you! why don’t you like my wii! >:’(
don’t be such a salty little bitch famicom
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>>5367534
What I meant is that 240p systems don't exactly need power, until you get into emulation.
But since you can only really emulate 4th gen and back, it being the most powerful 240p console really doesn't hold much weight anyway. A shitty rPi, S/NES classic, or any other such device could do the same. Probably with less effort on the hacking part.

And PCs do emulation so much better, to the point that sticking to consoles alone for the task is silly. Despite costing more, they definitely, beyond the shadow of a doubt, give more bang for that buck.
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>>5367538
Good job. Grab yourself a pro controller and and you've got a great way to play snes/gb/gba/genisis stuff. I reccomend pic related. Gba is great on a tv because it's like playing a next gen snes.

>>5367541
this desu
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>>5367569
>Gba is great on a tv because it's like playing a next gen snes
With terribly mangled 11kHz audio, a lower resolution, 2 missing buttons, and often fucked bright palettes to combat to the darkness of a non-backlit LCD for much of its lifespan, I don't think ``next gen'' is a very accurate description of what the GBA is like at all.
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>>5367569
Those are too small for my hands, and I hate having to use "Nintendo" branded everything. I'm just going to go back to Raspberry Pi.
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>>5367569
Do you play on CRT?
If so, for GBA do you force 4:3 or keep the widescreen ratio and play with black borders?
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>>5367551
I know this stuff is confusing at first, I'm not picking on you for asking for help. But the Wii is one of the easiest things to softmod, I think it's silly to turn people away from a 10 minute task.

But here's why I consider it "painful": you went into this with no idea of what the wii can do. No, it can't do saturn, mame, or PS1 well. We have regular threads about this, idk how you missed them. But it can do 8 and 16bit consoles pretty well, added with Wii, GC, and a handful of N64 games it's worth it for a lot of people.
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>>5367558
>Despite costing more, they definitely, beyond the shadow of a doubt, give more bang for that buck.
I think a big part of my "joy" of the wii is that I am a PC gamer. I stopped buying consoles in the late 90s when I adopted the PC as my primary means of enjoyment. I have always kept at least one CRT in the house for my small collection of consoles...which became "retro". My consoles collection is just an incidental collection. I never intended to end up with an N64, PSX, SNES, NES, Atarii 2600 and a sega genesis. I just never threw them out when they got outdated. All of which aside from the 5th gen the wii does well enough for me that I gave away nearly all of them. Wii is totally casual, and works great for the casual games I do play. I have a GTX980ti & a 144hz lcd in addition to an Sony GDM fw900 on a 4.8ghz i5. It is still easier for me to mod a wii to connect to my S-video console television than it is to figure out how to adapt from VGA to 240p. Is the wii for everyone? Fuck no. Does it work great for 4th generation and prior on a period specific television? Fuck yes. Do I give a fuck about PS2/Ps3/ps4? Nope. I have never touched any one of them lol. Same for the Xbox 360 and the xbone. The only reason I even have a wii was for my kids. They have since graduated up to their own PCs....they still play the shit out of Donkey Kong Jungle beat, and I can't fault them for that.

>>5367569
>I reccomend pic related.
Pic related.
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>>5367541
Really? I found it to be an accurately painful description of hacking a Wii. In that it's not really too difficult, but it does take some time and investigation, and if you actually care too much it's going to be painful.
It works really well as a parallel because I don't find hacking it to be painful and I didn't find reading that blog to be painful, but I can understand how they could be considered as such.
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>>5367578
Wii and GC look better on a HD screen (even retrorgb.com admits this) and aren't retro.

8 bit and 16 bit consoles can be done on a rPi, which also does the 4th and 5th generation. Why wouldn't you want all your games on one system? Also, the Wii has more input lag, and it ended up being more expensive than an rPi setup. And, I can't even use my favorite controllers.
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>>5367404
The raspberry pi is much more impressive to friends. They can scroll through the game menu and look at video previews of each game that start instantly when you hover over a title. Also, the GUI isn't built for a ridiculous Wiimote.
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>>5367581
I think some other anon said this, but wii guides have become more complicated. When I first modded mine, it pointed you to bannerbomb (later replaced with letterbomb) and that was it. Installing emulators is drag and drop.
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>>5367580
So, let me get this straight. It's only really valuable to you for the sentiment of not being a PC? And you only have it as a secondary device for children, who have since moved on from it?
I really don't see much point in that. Especially when you could be using that fw900, either with 240p120BFI or 480p half blacked with auto interlace detection.
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>>5367573
dunno what you're talking about cap. I play them all the time and they work great. Maybe try one?

>>5367574
Ah so it was a shitpost all along.

>>5367576
You can adjust the ratio. It lools pretty good.
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>>5367578

The OP of the thread reads ">Every retro emulator you'd ever want"

How can you blame me for thinking I could play arcade games or Saturn or something?
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>>5367601
I know about that, I meant personally which one do you prefer? For GBA
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>>5367601
Not a shitpost 1. can't emulate half of retro games 2. pain to hack 3. not that cheap 4. don't want to be restricted to nintendo controllers 5. menus are butt ugly and no easy way to change emulator settings
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>>5367602
Well shit, if OP said it then it must be true.
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>>5367601
What? I play GBA all the time too, and it does play well enough. But it is worse than SNES in almost all aspects, so I wouldn't say the GBA is 'like a next gen snes' at all. It's a downgrade for portability's sake, sometimes with small updates to content in ported games.
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>>5367608
Well shit, you said "We have regular threads about this, idk how you missed them."

But now you're saying "Sure you read the threads, but they're not true"

So, again, Wii shill, how exactly was I supposed to know?
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>>5367613
Can you not differentiate between an honest discussion and a vague comment made by someone trying to stir something?
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>>5367594
>wii guides have become more complicated. When I first modded mine, it pointed you to bannerbomb (later replaced with letterbomb) and that was it. Installing emulators is drag and drop.
That is all there is to it.

>Banner bomb
>Wad manager 1.7 app to install the cIos for USBLoader

>>5367595
>It's only really valuable to you for the sentiment of not being a PC?
No. It its value to me is that I have one single system that replaced 3 systems I already owned, and didn't require any additional converters to run in 240p on my tv. I don't have a single emulator on my PC.

>>5367595
>And you only have it as a secondary device for children, who have since moved on from it?
I bought it for my kids new nearly a decade ago, and they still use it daily...Though recently the only games they play on it is like I mentioned DK jungle beat. Starfox 64 VC runs great as well, and looks pretty good...though I do know it is running at 480i.

>>5367595
>Especially when you could be using that fw900, either with 240p120BFI or 480p half blacked with auto interlace detection.

The GDM is a wide screen CRT, and I doubt it could do 240p. The console TV in my living room already looks and works great for 4:3 content. I know it does 1280x800 @ 140hz. Old games don't look right running at that refresh rate. Dark Souls on the other hand looks incredible at 120hz/60fps.
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>>5367604
Sorry. I use vba

>>5367609
I just meant playing gba on a tv as opposed to handheld is cool because it feels like upgraded snes games. As in the games themselves. Not technical nit picking.
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>>5367619
>It its value to me is that I have one single system that replaced 3 systems I already owned
So you didn't even need it, already had authentic hardware for the task, and your children only play one game on it now anyway which isn't even related to emulation at all?
I'm not really seeing the point. At least in context to this thread.
It's a nice console for native games. But emulation on it is quite limited, and if you already have real hardware for consoles you'd emulate then there's very little reason to get one for emulation.
>The GDM is a wide screen CRT, and I doubt it could do 240p
Letterboxing works fine. It can definitely do 240p120 as that's a 30kHz signal, or half lined 480p with a shader to automatically detect and flicker interlacing.
Have you really ever used a CRT for emulation before? Not knowing about sync rates is genuinely hard to believe.
>Old games don't look right running at that refresh rate
OUCH. One of the main benefits of CRTs is the strobelight motion. Giving it so much higher refresh rate without higher framerate fucking RUINS that.
>120hz/60fps
If it's 60FPS then run it at 60Hz. Otherwise you're doubling it and giving it stairstep motion.
See this image.
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>>5367636
What couldn't you do on a portable Linux computer that you wanted to?
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>>5367624
>As in the games themselves
They're a downgrade audibly (BY SO FUCKING MUCH), visually, and for input too. Extra content is not enough to overpower that to the point I'd ever consider any of them to be upgrades. More like content that you have to tolerate such downgrades for to actually play.
>Not technical nit picking
Not even just "technical". They play worse in general. The limited control scheme and viewing area are exceptionally painful on ports of platformers like Mario games.

In no way are GBA ports upgrades. Because the system itself is so much of a downgrade.
They are, however, updates. Definitely. For better or worse.
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>>5367639
composite output at 240p
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>>5367648
Can't you just set a custom modeline for it?
http://filthypants.blogspot.com/2017/03/raspberry-pi-240p-composite-output.html
Google says yes, with updated firmware.
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>>5367648
Doesn't this do 240p? http://arcadeforge.net/Pi2Jamma-Pi2SCART/PI2SCART::264.html
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>>5367630
Wii is based. If you don’t see that, you’re just not a true gamer.
>cuckzilla $0yfox
Explains everything desu.
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>>5367646
okie doke
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>>5367630
pseudoscience
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>>5367667
ur dumb
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>>5367670
No u. The whole thing about the way your eyes track motion is unproven pseudo-science. It's blurry simply because it doesn't have a fast enough response time and pixels from one frame are written over the fade from the one before it.

This whole eye tracking bullshit is marketing for those blur busters guys.
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>>5367659
>calls others basedcucks while gobbling down Nintendick™ like his life depends on it
1 Nintencoin has been added to your wallet
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>>5365889

Literally the Playstation Classic. $40 for the console and two awesome controllers. Flawless full speed emulation of NES, SNES, GB, GBC, GBA, Master System, Genesis, ScummVM, PSX, probably more. PSP emulation is in the works, many games run flawlessly already.
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>>5367697
>hdmi
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>>5367691
It's prevalent even on displays that do have fast enough response time (<=1ms) for that. And strobe motion makes tracking panning imagery with the eye demonstrably easier.
Ghosting is an entirely separate issue.

And I'm really not sure what you mean by marketing. Pretty sure they don't sell anything. They just test everything.
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>>5365889
Raspberry Pi can do any PS1 game I've thrown at it.
>>5367697
No 240p output.
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>>5367703
>Pretty sure they don't sell anything
It's pretty clear they are sponsored by Nvidia and shill G-sync at every opportunity.
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>>5365059
comedy gold
here's your 100+ internetz
:^)
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>>5367880
u mad bro
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>>5367880
absolutely seething
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>the part of the thread in which everybody tries to help the ultrabrainlet-raspi-autist to no avail
KEK
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>>5368216
upvoted
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>>5367630
>But emulation on it is quite limited
It is limited to working well for the systems I already owned. You don't have to like it, but yes I did have authentic hardware. I couldn't tell a difference between the wii emulation of the SNES or Genesis, so I swapped it out. The reason I am using the Wii for emulation is because it works so well that I don't really care about imperceptible inaccuracies....A new wii cost a similar amount as a flash cart in 2019.

>>5367630
>If it's 60FPS then run it at 60Hz.
Wrong.
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I've spent way too much on that Wii dual mod and an RGB cable. Component is way too dark for some reason.
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>>5367607
You can use a PS3 controller if you really don't want to use anything Nintendo
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Cringe wii-tards
Based Pi-tricians
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>>5367235
Hey, I just hacked a wii for the first time and I agree with you. All of the instructions or guides for modding a wii that I found were incomplete or overloaded with options and/or alternatives indiscriminately. I had to piece together what I needed to do through deduction and trial and error.
To play backups you'll need
Homebrew channel, installed through letterbomb probably
Wii backup manager on your pc
Usbloadergx on an sd card
Nintendont for gamecube games
Wad manager for VC games
GameCube games will need to be formatted on your USB drive in a specific way and wii games will be transferred into your USB stick with wii backup manager.
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>>5364705
What even is this
Yes I am fucking new to homebrew shit, don't judge me
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>>5368710
Looks like one of those cheap chinese consoles.
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whats better to play old ass games? switch or new 2ds?
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>>5369382
3DS has a much more mature hacking scene. It's great for playing snes and other non super powerful systems.
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>>5369382
i was skimming the wiki but i saw new 3ds xl is already like 5 years old, should i just forget about the ds and go for switch since it supposedly has a store u can buy old games if u feel like wasting money? will there ever be another gen ds since switch is handheld?
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>>5369417
ok ima cop a new 2ds xl next time i get some cash
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>>5357385
>Tell me a better device for emulation with less effort. Protip: you can't.
I certainly can, it's called PC.
I see that a lot of this thread has surrounded discussing of cheapness and 240p on CRTs.

To that I ask: how cheap do you really want to go? Don't you like video games? The subject of this thread is "Most bang for your buck emulation station". Well for around a few hundred dollars you can assemble a

>a PC with a good GPU
>a manner of playing games in their proper native resolution with very low lag (straight RGB to a 15khz monitor, or transcode to a s-video/component TV)
>good, versatile controllers
>good sound system
>comfy chair

One of the things always brought up about the Wii is the portability. I think that's a lot of wishful thinking. In reality you are not going to be taking this thing around and playing games with people very often, and the novelty with your family and friends will wear off very quickly. Additionally, the novelty of emulation has worn off over a decade ago. Your gaming friends and family are well aware of it and capable of emulating whatever they want on their own time. Maybe they even have a set up of their own in their house. Imagine being the guy who brought his Wii to play games and finding that the host already has a solution in place. How awkward.
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>>5369439
>Imagine being the guy who brought his Wii to play games and finding that the host already has a solution in place. How awkward.

What a bizarre scenario to worry about.
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>>5369643
regards, man who thinks he will be made fun of for playing video games on a PC
back to the favela joão
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Using my modded Wii, this thing can't even run most N64 games. It's a piece of shit.
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>>5369439
Is that a man emulating a woman?
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>>5369643
Yeah. One that's easily dealt with by communicating terms of engagement beforehand rather than trying to surprise each other like idiots.
But that's beside the point. Which is that portability isn't often an issue to begin with due to both the quick wearing off of novelty, and ubiquity of emulation as is. Portability that's less than fully pocketable with built in screen/speaker/controls at least.
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>>5357385
pretty sure a used pc capable of running wii/gc emulator would be cheapest and best, could even skip chassi and just stuff components in a tv bench drawer
though, if we're not gonna count pc as an option, i'd say a fat ps3 would be a better option for the money
ps1+2 has waaaaaay more good games than gc/wii, and it can easily play retro consoles
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>>5370238
forgot to say that you can swap out the internal hdd with a 1tb by literally just loosing 5 screws and swapping drives
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>>5369439
If you're willing to invest extra money you can take that PC idea, build a really small mini ITX PC and jam an old AMD GPU compatible with CRT_EmuDriver. I have a skylake build like that which is only good for fucking web browsing... and it's excellent for emulation. I can carry it around easy (it's not even the smallest, you can go a lot smaller, this is essentially 4 Wiis) and if you're not into having entire libraries of 5th gen games you don't even need to put a mechanical hard drive in there.
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>>5369435
But Switch has link's awakening remake.
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>>5368710
>What is reverse image search
Dingoo A380
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>>5369382
They both suck for anything with analog buttons
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>>5369439
>Don't you like video games?
>implying that showing love for videogames is spending $200+ on varied stuff while complaining about the guys that paid at most $40 and are enjoying themselves with the Wii and the easy connections
I know its use varies on the consoles you want to emulate, but for what it's worth the Wii does a good job, enough of a good job to be really considered bang for your buck
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https://wii.guide/
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The left stick doesn't move the character in Splinter Cell (Gamecube, Nintendont) but other buttons work. Any ideas? Tried two completely different roms.



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