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Did any of you guys actually think this fight was hard? I OHKO’d him with my tyranitar
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>Hurr durr, not so hard, just use pseudo with type advantage
Wow OP, you're a fucking genius !
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Nothing is difficult if you babymode with a pseudo.
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>>39715440
I babymode with 3 pseudos for your information
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>>39715419
it was hard for me on the first try
i cheesed it the second with a Zoroark i was carrying
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>>39715429
>dazzles your gleam
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>>39715455
>Laughs in sand storm
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Two-shot him with Primarina's Moonblast and Refresh bullshit.
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all three starters have a type advantage over necrozma. two of them even have z-move nukes that BTFO it. the one that doesn't has retarded special attack and special defense for a starter anyway, so just moonblast the guy once or twice

if you still had trouble after all that, you might be clinically retarded
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>>39715419
Took me 20+ tries. It was both fun and frustrating and I did it at work when there were no customers to bother me. Cheesing it with Refresh benefits was the most anime I felt about these games since the Delta Episode.
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>>39715478
What team did you use?
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>>39715478
Ahh shit anon it’s been so long so I powered up my 2DS I couldn’t even tell you. I was also constantly rotating my team so I can’t even pinpoint who was exactly on it at the time but I do know I was running Incineroar at the forefront and I believe he was the one to land the KO after taking two Photon Geysers
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>>39715419
>1-shot him with incineroar z-move
>'you used a z-move fag!'
I didn't think it'd ohko this "hard ass" boss
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>>39715539
Meant to reply to this beautiful soul >>39715486
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There are something like 300 available Pokemon at that point. If there are 5 that destroy this boss, there's still a decent chance the player doesn't have any of them.
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>>39715573
There are actually two (2) you can catch right at the beginning of the game.
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I can kind of get why some people think Ultra Necrozma is so hard but with the right moves and mons he’s a pushover
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>>39715467
Almost entirely this for me. Primarina got one hit in, Noivern's Draco Meteor took care of the rest.
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>>39715590
I hope this is a joke, that literally describes every fight in every game
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>>39715429
I ohko'd him with Zoark I got at the start of the game, disguised as a fighting type, as it endless shot psychic moves into me.
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>>39715419
My Unaware Pyukumuku tanked a hit and used Memento to lower its attacking stats. That allowed my Gastrodon to tank a hit and use Icy Wind, lowering its Speed.
Decidueye then tanked a hit and used Z-Tailwind, allowing it to outspeed the next turn thanks to Icy Wind and knock it out with a 100% crit Shadow Claw.
Pretty convoluted, but I had to work with what I picked especially considering I didn't want to cheese it.
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>>39715629
Retards here will tell you that doesn't count
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>>39715634
What do you consider cheesing the fight?
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>>39715636
But why? Like I thought it was weird as fuck that Zauro is in the starting area, it doesn't fit at all with the setting.
Like, it was put there, just so you could one shot ultra necrozma, hit it with punishment or foul play and it's game over.
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>>39715419
spiritomb &/or alolan raticate made short work of this nuisance. if i had megastones by then, he would have been no match for my mega gardevoir. speaking of early megastones, is there a hack to get the keystone early?
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>>39715634
why were you training a pyukumuku?
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>>39715419
I seriously thought people were joking when they said it was hard
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It was hard for me, mostly because my team was slow as bricks. I forgot who I used in the initial fight, but on my second playthrough I just grabbed a Mimiyku and used toxic on it.
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>>39715455
>Get to 8th trial in SM
>beat every battle before the trial with one Dazzling Gleam
>get to totem
>Dazzling Gleam hits both targets and beats the trial in one hit
As if that trial couldn't be worse, they chose something with a 4x type advantage.
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>>39715440
The entire game is baby mode
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>>39715672
Because it's my favorite Pokemon.
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>>39715672
Because he is based.
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>>39715419
Maximum HP/Sp. Defense shrugs off most of Necrozma's attacks, allowing gradual chip damage.
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It's a hard battle for people that came unprepared and/or don't understand the basic mechanics of the game, which applies to most of /vp/.
I can't even fault people for bringing an unprepared team to the battle because nothing else in the game is challenging enough to warrant proper teambuilding.
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>>39715419
I had a pretty shit team desu with the exp share off, no refresh hax, and never bothered with z-moves so he was somewhat of a speed bump. my magnezone was the only thing that could take a hit from it so I just ended up roiding him up with x items just to get past it
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>>39715580
You can, but that doesn't mean most players do.
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>>39715760
>EV training in the story
God you're pathetic
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>>39715707
>every trial with one dazzling gleam
nice try, mimikyu has disguise
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>>39715419
After having beaten every trainer along the way with competitive level Pokémon the only thing I actually had to beat him was Porygon2 with Trick Room which was still nearly 10 levels too low despite having been traded in from a French copy of Moon (meaning it had a larger experience boost than most of the others on the team). I did not turn off Exp Share so that wasn't it. I also did have the Refresh effects active for everyone. didn't mean a damn to 1+ to everything that's 10 levels higher than where you are by killing everything along the way.

>>39715590
People saying it isn't more difficult is like a Mario Maker 2 level just spammed to death with enemies and saws and shit and then someone saying "it isn't difficult! All you had to do was find the hidden cape at the beginning and damage boost through!" ignoring that that 10 thwomps going in all 4 directions so you can't know what's going to happen the first time are going to try to kill you to get it - if they don't take out the block first.

A level like that would still end up in Super Expert regardless of the fact that there's a relatively easy dev secret to get past because that's an unreasonable expectation.

That's what Ultra Necrozma is - shitty design that has a way out but the way is obtuse. You shouldn't require certain things to beat it.

Especially not when you only have one fucking difficulty level so the player had no part in choosing that.

I don't mind having to figure shit out - I play on the hardest difficulty possible anyway but that is not good game design when you intend the games to be for everyone but won't even let them opt out of whatever bullshit (be it tutorial or stupid difficulty spikes) you're going to throw in their way.
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>>39715760
>EV trains his Pokémon during main game
Imagine being this bad
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>>39715843
>judging people for how they play
Yeah, there's this thing called mirrors you know?
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>>39715419
>OHKO with pick related
He was easy as fuck, it’s just that most of vp doesnt know what difficulty is anymore
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>>39715848
Meant to say before the totem, as in the three battles against the kommo-o line in the trial before the totem.
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Topsy turvy malamar to open. Smooth sailing after that.
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>>39715857
Sometimes my Umbro simply deserves a little overnight recreation at Isle Evelup.
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>>39715419
>haha my lv.92 pseudo legend with a type advantage that i solo-ed the game with beat necrozme get good xD
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>>39715419
>using pseudos on storymode

cringe!
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>>39715873
Absolutely not true, I used Malamar on my team and there was no way it could survive a turn in order to Topsy-Turvy. In the end, I led with Blissey (the only member on my team who could survive a hit) and Thunder Waved, and only then could Malamar come in and Topsy Turvy. Even then it couldn't OHKO.
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>>39715972
Lol here’s my lvl 92 pseudo
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>>39716003
do you live in australia or something?
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>>39715419
I used my Lunala from Moon as my ace. But if it wasn't for her I'd get wrecked
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>>39715429
>NOOOOO STOP USING TOOLS THE GAME GIVES YOU IT'S HARD IF YOU TURN OFF THE EXP SHARE AND NUZLOCKE AND DONT USE POKEMON CENTERS AND SPIN AROUND 3 TIMES
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I don’t get pseudo hate they are just good looking and strong Pokémon that are more difficult than average to train
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>>39716048
Come on man.
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>>39715419
Golisopod first impression. Revive, first impression again, done
I love the big boy
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>>39715740
unbelievably patrician
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>>39717132
holy kek
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>>39715419
Sure was a good thing I picked her up so early in the game.
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>>39715419
I just poison stalled
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>>39715440
>>39715444
>>39715467
>>39715475
>>39715590
>>39715622
>>39715687
>>39715760
>>39715856
>>39715873
>>39716041
You're all a bunch of retard it's insane.
Played USUM going in blind, I don't use exp share, I don't use pseudos/legendaries, I don't use poke-amie and I don't grind my pokémon.
My whole team was lvl 42, he would OHKO any of them.
You all complain about how "easy" it was when you're literally making the game easier for yourself.
There is no way your pokémon is high level enough to beat him, unless you use the exp share
I had to quick claw a toxic to beat him or there was not a single way to win with the team I had. Even if it's easy, it's still more than what you always had to do in the first generations you're all dicksucking

kys
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>>39717708
why did you not use the focus sash
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I just used Decidueye, I dont get the whole 'nuzlocke' ending meme.
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>>39717708
>using toxic
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>>39717723
you can't have it before postgame
if you transfer for the story and complain about difficulty

also kys
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>>39715419
You will either stomp him with no effort or he'll rape your whole team.
Game Freak cannot into boss design.
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>>39717736
still better than full press A to beat giovanni with your starter monorun
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>>39717731
>you can't have it before postgame
https://www.serebii.net/pokearth/alola/poniwilds.shtml
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>>39715419
Not hard but a good surprise.
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>>39717708
It’s exactly what you had to do in the first generation just mindlessly tap A and it dies
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>>39717708
In my first and blind playthrough I two shot him with my decidueye using his z move without having done any grinding, in fact I avoided most trainers and ran from encounters. It's a sad state of affairs when people forget what true difficulty in pokemon games is and cry about """difficulty""" in fucking usum, a game where you are spoon-fed start to finish.

tl;dr seethe harder, it's not our fault you're bad at the game
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>>39717724
Do you even know what a nuzlocke is?
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>>39715843
>>39715857
This literally makes the game more fun, it's not hardcore max ev training, just paying attention to what you fight.

By the end you can run through the battle tree with ease.
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How the fuck are you liars OHKO'ing it? My vikavolt with its nuclear sp attack bug buzzed and did like 1/3rd health. Are you fucking bragging about it being easy with amie boosts/exp share on/roto boosts/grinding for hours/etc?
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>>39715419
I beat him with Muk and toxic...
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>>39718488
>high special defense and HP
>UN has no supereffective attacks
>walls his most powerful attack
>has a supereffective STAB
>has a poison ability and 100% Toxic
Good for you, especially with everything stacked against you.
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beat him with a monotype bug team. I feel kind of bad because I knew of UN ahead of time and incorporated a forretress onto my team just for this battle. I don't regret using forretress, it was surprisingly fun, but I don't know how else I would have done it besides maybe burning a focus sash and resorting to status/string shots
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>>39718479
Nobody needs to grind for hours I used exp share so all of my Pokémon were about lvl 55 at the UN fight bug buzz and vikavolt are both just really bad
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>>39715440
Pokemon is babymode in general. You have to actively shoot yourself in the foot to make it difficult.
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>>39718797

>i used exp share
Then stop bragging in the internet about how easy it was, you fucking child
>vikavolt is bad
I never said vikavolt was good, but you can not objectively say it's sp attack is bad. As long as vikavolt gets an attack in the sp attack is all that matters and like I said I don't know how a fucking 80 base power crunch off of tyranitar 1 shot when a 90 base power bug buzz did like 1/3rd. I guess I was just at a much lower level and I'm surrounded by children playing the game on easy mode then saying how easy that easy mode was
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>>39717132
Same here.
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>lead with Mimikyu
>free hit from Disguise
>toxistall
What was the problem again
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>>39718479
Maybe your vikavolt just has shitty stats.
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toxicroak. sucker punch. focus sash. sucker punch. refresh bullshit. sucker punch. done.
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>>39717132
>revive
that's cheating!
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>>39717708
>>39716048
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>>39718875

pretty sure it was modest/timid. and I tried to keep sp attack evs one of its priorities. You're a fucking retard if you think IVs are going to make that big of a difference
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>>39718904
>>39718875

and by the way, assuming that person that said he was around level 55, and that he one shot with tyranitar, the damage calcs leave crunch at doing 55-60% in this scenario, and that's assuming it was a perfect attack IV, adamant, fully attack evd tyranitar
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>>39715856
>That's what Ultra Necrozma is - shitty design that has a way out but the way is obtuse. You shouldn't require certain things to beat it.
If between your six pokemon you don't have something super effective against a Dragon/Psychic type the problem isn't obtuse game design, the problem is you didn't build a balanced team.
>weak to Ice, Dragon, Fairy, Ghost, Bug, Dark
>can also just be toxic stalled
It's not hard, you're just bad.
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>>39717132
the real top bug
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>>39718959

Fuck off. It gets +1 in everything, uber stats, and is probably around 10 levels higher than you. It has a move that negates abilities in case your ace is ability reliant, a built in expert belt so any pokemon that are SE against it can also be one shotted before they act, and those weaknesses you listed are not fucking common at all except bug, which is shitty everywhere else in the game except the grass trial.

>Just toxic stall hurrr!!

You stupid fucking retard, the very quote you are replying to implies that you shouldn't have to resort to cheap ass shit like toxic stall, that's bad game design. The totems are much better balanced where they have challenging fights because of a teammate with synergy, not because the totems overwhelm you and sweep your whole team unless you have one of 10 pokemon in the region.
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>>39718328
Ofcourse I do anon, nuzlocking through USUM with Decidueye produced the same result.
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>>39718944
My Z-Crunch crit get gud fag
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>>39715419
No i just tossed pyukus with innards out until he fainted
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>>39715419
>Neuroforce +1 Smart Strike
>It's a OHKO!
nothin personnel...kid
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>>39718991
git gud, shitter
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>>39718868
Photon Geyser bypasses Disguise, retard.
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>>39719172

>get good when stats literally guarantee a loss in any scenario besides exp share/refresh boosting/items spamming etc.

Fuck off child
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>>39719202
pretty sure the ai is gong to use smart strike anyway
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>>39719214
>REEEE EXP SHARE AND ITEMS ARE CHEATING YOU SUCK FAG
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>>39719214
>can’t beat a game designed for children
>c-child!!!!!!!!
go play LGPE, it’s better suited for brainlet retards like you
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>Sonichu uses nuzzle
>Necrozma is now paralyzed
>Sturdy kicks in
>Iron Head
>Flinch or para'd following turn
>Rinse and repeat until beaten
Honestly, it wasn't too bad.
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>>39715419
It was a cakewalk with Zoroark but, that doesn't mean every team will have an easy time. If you're not prepared you'll just get ohko'd constantly.
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My entire team was under level 50 because I never used Exp Share or really did any grinding
>Golisopod used First Impression
>Crobat uses Haze to remove stat boosts
>Magnezone paralyses with Thunder Wave
>Incineroar chip damages with Darkest Lariat
>Mimikyu wins with Z-Shadow Claw
It was cool as fuck having to actually use my entire team for once, as opposed to steamrolling
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>>39715419
Destiny Bond Mimikyu
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>>39719214
There are wild Lapras with Perish Song in Poni Poni. Grab the Focus Sash from one of the dancers in the same area and use it guarantee the win. It’s not fucking hard.
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>>39715419
I quick claw topsy-turvey'ed him. -2 in all stats.
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My fish only run, first time i wiped because i didn't realize at first run that Stunfisk tanks it.
2nd attempt:
>Stunfisk leads, Thunder Wave Paralyzes Necrozma after clutching a hit.
>Then proceed to chip it down bit by bit starting with Sharpedo's Dark Z move then proceed Crunching with Bruxish and Basculin until thing is down.
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>>39719751

THE WHOLE CONVERSATION THAT YOU RETARDEDLY BUTTED YOUR HEAD INTO IS COMPLAINING HOW THE BATTLE IS ONLY WINNABLE WITH CHEESE STRATEGIES OR USING A SMALL HANDFUL OF POKEMON.

YOU LISTING A CHEESE STRATEGY MISSES THE WHOLE POINT. I WANT YOU TO GET CANCER AND DIE RIGHT NOW. DO IT NOW
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On the one hand, it could OHKO or 2HKO all my Pokemon.

On the other, I had a Mimikyu.

On the other hand, I had to use 10 revives on said Mimikyu plus another Pokemon.
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>>39720391
lmao seething shitter
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>Get high affection on your Pokemon
>They dodge his attacks and survive ones that would kill
>Win
Woah...that was...hard...
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>>39720391
Seethe harder retard
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>>39715419
I one-shot it with my Honchkrow. Guaranteed crit. I was pretty disappointed.
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>>39717708
>stalled with Toxic
>complaining about people using easy strategies
>used /the/ biggest, cheesiest cheese method to beat it
>complaining
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>>39720391
I beat it with pure skill. Using all of my team members to wittle it down, lower its attack enough with intimidate, status it, and finish it off with Tsareena+Primarina

git gud, scrub.
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>>39715419
It was difficult if you went in blind since there was a pretty big difficulty spike and it hit like a truck. Not impossible to get lucky and beat it without much trouble but anyone who says they beat it with something like Toxic knew about it beforehand, which obviously undermines the difficulty.
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>>39717724
So you’re telling me your decidueye either
1) outsped and OHKO’d it
2) was fast enough to outspeed it and live one attack and 2HKO it
3) was slower than it, lived one attack and OHKO’d it
3) was slower than it, but somehow lived 2 attacks and 2HKO’d it
?
Sound like you were overlevelled there.
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Went in blind, got 6-0’d without even getting an attack off first time. Gathered the type and moveset, trained up a bisharp and grinded Decidueye a bit, between the two of them managed it without too much of a sweat. I thought it was a pretty good boss design, difficult at first but put a tiny bit of thought in and you can find a strategy without having to be overlevelled.
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i had to keep tanking hits with lefties rotom wash, after it got fully paralyzed from t wave, so every turn i could roto-pokedex boost all of my stats, and hyper potion to fully recover until i was like plus four in all my stats and then one shot w/ hex bc of the status damage boost
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>>39722274
If I didn't do it there was not a single way to beat him without grinding. There just wasn't.
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>using refresh bonuses like a little baby
>not using Chad Golisopod
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>>39715848
>reading comprehension
he was clearly only talking about the final trial
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>>39722915
You’re so bad lmao
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>>39715995
That just mean that your to retarded to know how to play this bad boy properly
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>>39717708
>You're all a bunch of retards!
>I didn't play the game, so my team was underlevelled, making him a hard boss fight!!!
>WHY DON'T YOU GUYS AGREE WITH ME :(((
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>>39722915
>doesn't use exp share
>doesn't use pseudos or legendaries
>doesn't use poke amie
>doesn't grind (aka playing the fucking game)
i bet you complain that sworshiel don't have enough content too
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>>39722252
Praise Super Luck
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Stop pretending smart strike didn’t 1-2 shot you
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Ultra Necrozma at least fucks you over if you didn’t know about him or atleast gives you a hard time

Let’s Go Pikachu on the other hand tried to surprise you with Trace’s Mega Pidgeot but oh boy look my signature pikachu has a super effective move that is guaranteed crit
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I toxic stalled him on my first try after losing a couple of mons.
Didn't realize it was supposed to be difficult till I went online and saw people complaining about how hard it was for them.
Just thought it was on the level of any other end game legendary fight, honestly.
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>>39723369
He didn’t even use it
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>>39723391

>of any other end game legendary fight

Nigga what are you talking about, Gen 7 is the only games where you can’t cheese catch the legend and have to actually fight them
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>>39723400

Bullshit, that mother fucker kept smart striking my fairies
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Because Gamefreak is predictable, and that they tried it with Lets Go, you can already tell Sword and Shield is going to have a story based Raid battle against the bad legendary with Marnie, Bede and Hop
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>>39723411
I didn’t use faries I used tyranitar and it missed a power gem then I Z-Crunched it and my z move crit
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>>39723401
If you don't opt for catching the legend it's the same kind of fight, and even if you do it's still just losing a couple of mons then getting rid of the thing by catching it or knocking it out.
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>>39723467

Totem fights aren’t really the same since they get helpers
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>NOOOOO ITS NOT FAIR!!!!! YOU SHOULDNT USE A DIFFERENT APPROACH OTHER THAN ATTACKING EVERY TURN, CAUSE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY REQUIRE BRAIN CELLS AND THATS CHEESE!!!!
Hey, ever stop to consider that winning by having the superior numbers or type advantage is more cheese than developping a strategy to circumvent the opponent's advantage?
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>>39715419
i destoyed him with an underleveled shitmon team, but it wasn't easy
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>>39715475
>Implying any of the starters outspeed him
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>>39718479
Crits go through stat buffs and I was built for crits.
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>>39715740
Good choice. Used a pyukumuku in my SM playthrough. One of the most based pokemon I've ever used.
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>>39719081
>HAHA JUST CRIT IT GIT GUD IDIOT
wow, what a supreme strategist. You were born in the wrong era my friend, you really could've made a name for yourself as a great war general.
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>>39717708
The game isn't balanced around the fact that you disabled the exp share so it's normal if you find yourself struggling against the few difficulty spikes while still cheesing the vast majority of the game
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>>39717723
>throwing away a 48BP item on an ingame fight
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>>39719202
the ai's not smart enough to always do that
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>>39722915
there are tutors/tms and the focus sash, i'm sure there was a way for you to beat him without even cheesing
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>>39715419
>toxic >protect >roost



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