Considering all the different forms enabled by plates & Z-Moves, How many types is Arceus the strongest Pokémon for?
>>38571390In an ideal world, all of them. In reality i dont know
Very few of them, I'd say.It's definitely the strongest Normal type.Maybe Bug type, its only competition is Genesect and Pheromosa.Everything else seems taken by another legendary.
Strongest how? By bts? What is it facing?
>>38571423Ice type? Poison? Rock? Grass? Really no competition there.
>>38571434Mewtwo, and all of it's Mega Evolutions.
>>38571504>Ice typeKyurem White>PoisonMega Gengar>RockGot me there>GrassPossibly. But I'd argue Ferrothorn is better.
>>38571423>It's definitely the strongest Normal typehttps://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/115.shtml
>>38571563Extreme Killer is still stronger than Mega Kangaskhan.
>>38571390Probably not many. Rock and Normal are the only ones that immediately come to mind. Probably Bug too because Bugs fucking suck.
>>38571557>Kyurem WhiteEhh... Arceus can still fill alot more roles and is probably more generally useful. Mega Gengar is stupidly good at what it does and I can't argue with you there. But it's also not a legendary. (Though there also is no Poison legendary if you don't count ultra beasts...)
>>38571585If this was true then the meta would revolve around Arceus and it most certainly does not. Nice thought though, it would make sense. Hopefully Sinnoh remakes fix this bit everyone will hate it more than Landorus at that point
>>38571585>Arceus can still fill alot more roles and is probably more generally useful.Compared to most other Legendary, Arceus as a whole is kind of a jack-of-all-trades. You get some notable types, like Normal Arceus spamming Extreme Speed, but generally each Arceus kind of struggles to stand out.Poison Arceus doesn't really do anything. It's only notable in that there aren't any poison legendaries.But Mega Gengar, Naganadel and even Toxapex are better than it.
>>38571584>>38571504What about Mega Diancie? Though I think times 4 is not good
>>38571557Venusaur's Mega is probably a better Grass type in all fairness. Ferrothorn is good too though. They're both probably tied for best grass in the game imo, which a pretty significant accomplishment if we're being real here.
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/usm-ubers-viability-ranking-thread.3623296/Dragon, Flying, Fire, and Ground are immediately out of the question thanks to megafug and groudon. The other types, just look if a pokemon of that same type is ranked higher.
>>38572787Kartana if you take into account doubles.
>>38572864>groudonZygarde is a better ground type
>>38572936They're talking about primal groudon retard
>>38571724Tyranitar and Mega Diancie are actually more viable than Arceus-Rock in Ubers
>>38571390Alright that's it, we're fixing GodOrigin ArceusHP 120ATK, DEF, SPA, SPD, SPE 140Ability: Will of God (Multitype + repressing all effects of mega stones and z-crystals)JudgementCosmic PowerRecoverExtreme Speed
>>38571563Imagine unironically thinking EKiller is not as good as Mega Kang, it wasn't even comparable to it before its nerf LMAO
Arceus-Ground is like the third best Ground-type, Arceus-Fairy is like the second best Fairy-type, Arceus-Normal is the best Normal-type, Arceus-Water is the second best Water-type, Arceus-Grass is the best Grass-type (Debatably with Ferrothorn on the Ubers metagame, but allowed in OU it would wreck everything), Arceus-Rock is the best Rock-type, Arceus-Ice and Kyurem White is debatable, Kyurem W can get to do more work though Arceus is way more versatile
It might not be the best of some types but it is most definitely the most versatile pokemon for almost all types. What even beats it out in versatility, Mew and Smeargle?
>>38571390For monotypes, Darkrai is probably a more powerful dark overall, although their roles aren't even remotely comparable. Same for one or both of Mega Mewtwo Y and Deoxys-Attack for Psychic, and Kyogre for Water.Xerneas on the other hand actually runs sets with pretty similar roles to Fairyceus, and so its a bit of a tossup, but Geomancy probably puts it above Arceus.Arceus is at least the best monotype for probably every other type. Ground might be debatable, but non-primal groudon is kinda terrible.
>>38571659>no poison legendaries>literally names one in his postWoah there dipshit. Don’t go too fast now
>>38572986Pretending to be retarded stopped being funny in 2013
>>38571390ProbablyNormalBugRockGrassDarkArguably ElectricBesides that, Types that Arceus is second best inPoison (Mega Gengar)Fairy (Xerneas, fringe argument that Arceus is actually a better Fairy than Xern, Xern is just a gimmickmon with Geomancy.)Fighting (It's kinda debatable if Marshadow is outright better than Arceus Fighting, this one is contested)Ice (Kyurem-White)Arguably Electric.These aren't to say there's nothing in those types with a niche Arceus doesn't, but just overall, broad strokes.An important thing to consider, Arceus's stats in relation to everything else mean it is a very fast, very bulky pokemon with okay offence. This means that even though Kyurem-White is only kinda meh, Arceus is a terrible match for Ice.
>>38573424>NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PLEASE DON'T OUTCLASS PRIMAL GROUDONcringy hoenntard
>>38571390Just wait until the 1,000 armed form in DP remakes with the highest base stats in the series.