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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersSun&MoonSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/Viewing Order Guide for XY:
https://pastebin.com/hWRkxP0F

>Preview of upcoming episodes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgpDcQEPfzg

>MOVIE 22: MEWTWO STRIKES BACK EVOLUTION (JULY 12TH, 2019)
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
Teaser 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEDJbEbFrXM
Trailer 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DOJ1UQceb8

Next episode:
>SM122 - You're Being Watched! The Rocket Gang's Alola Forms!! [May 19th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/episodes/

Upcoming episodes:
>SM123 - Master the Z-Move! Kaki's Fierce Boot Camp!! [May 26th]
>SM124 - Perfect Sharpness! Kamiturugi has Arrived!! [June 2nd]
>SM125 - Satoshi: A Timeless Encounter! [June 9th]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
It's been pretty dull and uneventful, with the occasional good episode. Watch XY instead if you haven't.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing SM. Their releases never really happen anymore ;_;

Old thread:
>>38552325
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M21 1080 RAW:
https://nyaa.si/view/1104442

SM121 RAW:
https://nyaa.si/view/1142862

SM91 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_Sun_&_Moon_091_It's_an_Outbreak-chu!_The_Pikachu_Valley!![H265_10bit_720P][75504E91].mkv.torrent

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS SUN & MOON 122 - YOU'RE BEING WATCHED! THE ROCKET GANG'S ALOLA FORMS!! (MAY 19TH)
>Musashi and the others get told by HQ to send Kiteruguma over. Since that's practically impossible for them, they're at a complete loss as to what to do. And then Matori arrives from HQ...

>Summary:
>Musashi and the others get told by Rocket Gang HQ to send Kiteruguma over. Since they had previously lied to Sakaki and reported to him they had got Kiteruguma, this puts them in quite a spot! They attempt to actually get Kiteruguma, but it proves practically impossible... and as they're struggling against these heavy odds, Matori arrives in Alola from HQ to personally bring Kiteruguma back with her. Musashi and the others would be in deep trouble if their lie got exposed at this point... so what is the plan they ultimately come up with?!

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Kei Shindo: Lilie
>Kaito Ishikawa: Kaki
>Reina Ueda: Mao
>Hitomi Kikuchi: Suiren
>Fumiko Takekuma: Māmane
>Keiichi Nakagawa: Professor Kukui
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Mika Kanai: Togedemaru
>Chika Fujimura: Amajo
>Kenta Miyake: Meltan
>Wakana Kingyo: Shore
>Daisuke Namikawa: Mimikkyu
>Rikako Aikawa: Alola Nyarth
>Nicole Fujita: Nuikoguma
>Kiyomi Asai: Matori
>Kenyu Horiuchi: Narration
>Chinami Nishimura: Rocket Gang Member
>Ryota Iwasaki: Rocket Gang Member
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 186 (May 19)

SM123 - Master the Z-Move! Kaki's Fierce Boot Camp!! (May 26)
>Satoshi and the others are going to train Z-Moves for the Alola Pokémon League at Kaki's house. Kaki's partner Bakugames is acting like a big brother to everyone, helping Kuwagannon train and calming down the mischievous Garagara. And Satoshi and Māmane get to learn what happened the day Kaki and Bakugames ended up getting acquainted with each other.

SM124 - Perfect Sharpness! Kamiturugi has Arrived!! (Jun 2)
>Several incidents where objects have been cut into pieces have occurred throughout Alola. Realizing that these crimes have been committed by the Ultra Beast Kamiturugi, Satoshi and the other Ultra Guardians dispatch.

SM125 - Satoshi: A Timeless Encounter! (Jun 9)
>One day, Professor Burnet discovers a photo of Professor Kukui, holding a "Super Pokémon Move Zukan", with a Nyabby. Meanwhile, Celebi shows up while Satoshi is training in the forest, and Satoshi and Nyaheat get thrown into the past thanks to Celebi's "Time Travel" power.

POCKET MONSTERS SUN & MOON BGM COLLECTION:
https://mega.nz/#!uRkkCKrY!g__WSNWQ12dYAbmASAlUiaiP1kqad66lIIGDGkKp2Fg
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Largo a cute.
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>>38565465
Hoshi a cuter.
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Reminder ShalourShipping >AmourShipping
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>>38565425
I suppose this is a promotional manga for the CG movie. Do we know the author?
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>>38565567
What the fuck is "shalourshipping"?
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>>38565593
Machito Gomi
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>>38565600
ShalourShipping = Ash x Korrina
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Find a flaw.
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>>38565606
That makes no fucking sense
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Other shipping
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>>38565694
Not married to Alain, the Edgelord.
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>>38565747
But she is.
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>>38565714
It actually does make sense, Korrina is a better character and love interest than Serena.
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Given the time slot, I really doubt they will put some effort in the SS anime.
This may really be the start of the end for the anime, what with the Live Action making more money than the anime movies, this mess of CGI and the anime losing viewers.
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Legendary girls from each series

OS series : Duplica

AG series : May

DP series : Dawn

BW series : Iris by default (wish it was Langley or Bianca)

XY&Z series : Korrina

S/M series : Lana
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Oh no, Ash has been betrayed by everyone, faced crushing loss of those he loves, gotten beaten up, and lost the will to live!
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>>38565922
Have sex
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bully mokuroh
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>>38565973
You can't search through the Ash tag in fanfiction.net without coming across this premise in every page. It's weird that the series which always tries to teach the value of friendship is the one whose fans want the MC to be angsty and betrayed.
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>>38566055
What if instead of lolrandombetrayal, there were legit reasons for it? Since most of those FF.net stories are just OOC characters just waking up one day and saying "wtf I hate you now, Ash! In fact, I always did! MWAHAHAHA!" and then Ash becomes Red on Mt. Silver or some shit.

Like, something like Ash gets framed for a bunch of shit to sour his relations with the classmates he just met until he gets expelled as the shit he gets framed for gets more and more serious, some other personal shit happens to black out his sunny optimism, and then Team Skull shows up and tells him to join them because he's basically in the same position they were before they joined. Could've sworn I remember something like this being discussed with that very picture tbqh
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>>38566055
That's nothing compared to the Naruto and Bleach section, betrayals or harems are the most common stories with Ash.

Well, there's also a few stories with an OC cucking Ash from Misty/Serena or whoever you want one day i'll do a Kingdom Hearts crossover, one day.
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Pokemon promotes animal abuse.
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>>38566149
Hi PETA, how many dogs did you kill today?
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Find a flaw.
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Lurking on Serebii made me realize how hypocritical SMfags truly are. Some of these arguments make no fucking sense:
>muh shonenshit
>muh flashy battles with no substance
>muh serena was too girly
>muh one sided love interest
>muh ash was too perfect

Really makes you wonder if SMfags are just buttblasted BWfags who got BTFO by based XY?
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>>38566254
Are you reading blue saturday’s posts? He was Doryzuu or whatever and he was a BW fan too who disliked DP as well
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>>38566254
>>muh shonenshit

XY wasn't Shonen, most Shonen protagonist acts like S/M Ash.

>>muh flashy battles with no substance

This is true specially when you see Ash's battle with Shota on Kalos League. Its flashy due to the animation but writing wise it was just Shota spamming Leaf Storm and Frenzy Plant. Doesn't he knows that Leaf Storm reduces special attack?

>>muh serena was too girly

Serena was bland and boring. After all both May and Dawn were girly but nobody complain about that.

>>muh one sided love interest

It was one sided

>>muh ash was too perfect

XY Ash was a bland generic piece of cupboard. The only thing that stopped him from being a complete Gary Stu was "Losing". However he still had all the irritating part of a Gary Stu.

I don't even like S/M but I manage to BTFO all the XY fans.
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>>38566399
XY Ash is great
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i thought we agreed that mallow/lillie was the real anime otp?
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>>38566441
He was boring and overrated, there is a reason why Japanese kids loved Keita over him.
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>>38566479
Yeah, but Pokémon is a global franchise where Japan is only 35% market, so nobody cares what Jap kids think since YKW flopped everywhere else in the world.
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>>38565425
Why is Mewtwo fingering herself?
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>>38566638
Because she's in love
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>>38566627
Don't reply anon, you're talking to a wall that thinks that violence and insults are the way to show love.
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serenas body?
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Hey faggets, I got the manga adaptation of the movie. Will be dumping with translations:
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>>38566805
>Mewtwo: ...Where am I...? Who are you...?
>Mewtwo: Wait...!

>Mewtwo: I won't forget... that world...
>Mewtwo: ...where whoever that was flew away from me...
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>>38566813
>Fuji: It's complete!!

>Fuji: It will finally be born...!

>Fuji: THE WORLD'S STRONGEST POKÉMON...
>Fuji: ...WILL BE BORN...!!

>Mewtwo: Where am I...?
>Mewtwo: Who... am I...?
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>>38566805
Did you just call me a fagget, fagget
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>>38566827
>Mewtwo: Why am I here...?

>Mewtwo: No...
>Mewtwo: I am still not even born unto this world...

>Mewtwo: WHO...

>Mewtwo: WHO AM I?!!!

>Fuji: !!
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>>38566835
>Fuji: IT'S FINALLY AWAKE!
>Fuji: MEWTWO IS FINALLY AWAKE!!!

>Mewtwo: Mew...
>Mewtwo: ...two...

>Fuji: That's your name...
>Fuji: We created you using "Mew" as a base!
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>>38566844
>Fuji: And let me tell you about Mew!
>Fuji: Possessing miraculous powers, it caused massive floods,
>Fuji: holds enormous powers said to be able to make crops bear fruit in wastelands,
>Fuji: and legends say it even has eternal life!
>Fuji: IT'S A MYTHICAL POKÉMON!!

>Fuji: And you were created from its fossilized eyelash!
>Fuji: You're the STRONGEST POKÉMON IN THE WORLD!!

>Mewtwo: So I was created by humans...
>Scientist 1: This is a victory for science!
>Scientist 2: Now we can continue our research.
>Mewtwo: Who am I...?!

>Mewtwo: FOR WHAT PURPOSE...
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>>38566853
>Mewtwo: FOR WHAT PURPOSE WAS I...
>Mewtwo: ...GIVEN BIRTH?!!!
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>>38566867
>Scientist 1: Eek!!!
>Scientist 2: Help!!!
>Fuji: Creating the world's strongest Pokémon...

>Fuji: That's what our dream was...!!
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>>38566881
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>>38566690
Coming from a guy who thinks that girls should to be submissive and only exist to serve men.

FYI, if you were right than I wouldn't have any problem with Goku and Chichi. Even though I have shown clear hate toward Chichi.
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>>38566885
Who cares
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>>38566898
>Mewtwo: This is my power...
>Mewtwo: I am the strongest Pokémon in this world...

>Mewtwo: Mew...
>Mewtwo: Am I stronger than you as well...?

>Sakaki: You may indeed be the world's strongest Pokémon.
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>>38566914
>Mewtwo: !?
>Sakaki: And...
>Sakaki: ...if you and humans were to join forces...

>Sakaki: ...the world would be ours!!
>Narration box: Rocket Gang Boss SAKAKI

>Sakaki: However,
>Sakaki: your power is too great...
>Sakaki: At this rate you'd end up turning the whole world into a sea of flames.
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>>38566925
>Mewtwo: ...and what do you suggest I do?

>Sakaki: Come to the Rocket Gang!
>Sakaki: We'll teach you how to control your power.

>Narration box: Rocket Gang HQ

>Sakaki: Mewtwo.
>Sakaki: How do you feel?
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>>38566254
>muh shonenshit
It’s crazy that when Pokémon went shonenshit, everyone started watching again
>muh flashy battles with no substance
And yet they are vastly more entertaining than just about every single battle in SM bar maybe the Brock and Misty battles
>muh serena was too girly
This is an appropriation and gives off the feeling that it is wrong for a 10 year old girl to be “girly”
>muh one sided love interest
Who gives a fuck
>muh ash was too perfect
You have to be REAL autistic to think this is a problem
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>>38566938
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>>38566627
Pokemon is global franchise because of the games and other media. Many people overseas dropped the anime long time ago and prefer shows of their own country that are far better than pokemon (Gravity Falls, Phineas and Ferb etc etc)
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>>38566949

>Mewtwo: My power is being restrained...
>Mewtwo: ...by this armor protecting my body.
>Mewtwo: What are you going to make me do?

>Sakaki: Simple enough.
>Sakaki: You will destroy, fight and plunder...

>Sakaki: THE STRONG...
>Sakaki: ...WIN!

>Mewtwo: ............
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>>38566813
So, the movie will not include the first part with Amber?
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“Fillers” are the real meat and potatoes of the series, why the hell do people whine so much about them?

Of course you get a few duds here and there but most of them are perfectly enjoyable side stories, with at least one or two great aspects. In fact some (most?) of the best episodes of the anime are technically fillers. And it’s not like every non-filler is amazing anyway.

Dogasu is almost unbearable to read sometimes, he whines so much about fillers. Said Johto is hellish and only worth watching because of Gym Battles etc, what the fuck.
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>>38566960
>Mewtwo: Hmph...
>Mewtwo: How weak...
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>>38566968
>Mewtwo: How easy that was.

>Mewtwo: For what...
>Mewtwo: For what purpose am I alive...?

>Sakaki: You are a Pokémon created by humans.
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>>38566397
>He was Doryzuu or whatever and he was a BW fan too who disliked DP as well
Well, that explains a lot. Once again proved that SM attracts cancer
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>>38566946
>It’s crazy that when Pokémon went shonenshit

Except it didn't since XY is the opposite of Shonen

>And yet they are vastly more entertaining

Having better battle than S/M is no achievement.

>This is an appropriation and gives off the feeling that it is wrong for a 10 year old girl to be “girly”

Serena's problem had nothing to do with girly since May and Dawn were both girly. The main problem was Serena being so bland that she didn't even felt like a 10 year old girl.

>You have to be REAL autistic to think this is a problem

The problem was that Ash was generic bland piece of cupboard.
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>>38566981
>Sakaki: Pokémon are used for the benefit of humans,
>Sakaki: and are alive for the benefit of humans...

>Sakaki: DO THEY HAVE VALUE BEYOND THAT?

>Mewtwo: Why you!
>Sakaki: Stop right there.

>Sakaki: If you try anything funny, you'll activate the armor's safety mechanisms.
>Mewtwo: !!!

>Mewtwo: Do you really think...
>Mewtwo: ...something like this...
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>>38566990

>Mewtwo: CAN STOP ME?!!!

>Sakaki: Tsk.
>Sakaki: You used your own strength to destroy the safety mechanism, huh?

>Sakaki: Then I have no other choice.
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>>38566999

>Sakaki: IF YOU OPPOSE ME,
>Sakaki: YOU PAY THE PRICE!!!

>Sakaki: GO! SIDON!!
>Sidon: GAAAAA!!!
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>>38567007
>Sakaki: ROCK THROW!!!

>Mewtwo: Hmph!!
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>>38567018
>Narration: SHADOW BALL!!!

>Sakaki: Restrain it, Sidon!!
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>>38567026
>Sakaki: EARTHQUAKE!!!

>Mewtwo: Ugh!!

>Sakaki: Finish it!!
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>>38566962
>“Fillers” are the real meat and potatoes of the series
Shut the fuck up, stop talking like an entitled whore. The anime has always prioritized gym battles before SM came around and fucked it up. Fillers are literally only there to "Fill the gaps". They shouldn't be given much importance
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>>38567046
>Narration: HORN DRILL!!!

>Sakaki: Is it over?

>Mewtwo: You have my gratitude.
>Sakaki: !?
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>>38567053
>Mewtwo: NOW I CAN UNLEASH MY FULL POWER...!

>Sakaki: Gah...!
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>>38567066
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>>38567078
>Mewtwo: Who am I...?
>Mewtwo: Where am I...?

>Mewtwo: Who asked for me to be born?

>Mewtwo: Who wished to create me?

>Mewtwo: I...
>Mewtwo: I detest all those who birthed me!
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>>38567086
>Mewtwo: So...
>Mewtwo: ...this is no attack, nor is it a declaration of war.
>Mewtwo: It is me...
>Mewtwo: ...STRIKING BACK AT YOU WHO GAVE ME BIRTH!!
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>>38567094
And that's a nice stopping point. This chapter is 64 pages long, this wasn't even the first half of it.
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>>38567047
Way to address my points dipshit. You’re the entitled little cunt throwing a fit because you can’t accept the show for what it is and can’t conceive of different opinions.
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>>38567103
Thanks OP. Will you post the rest eventually?

This manga looks really good so far. I like how detailed it is, even featuring stuff like Gary.
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>>38567139
Agreed. The manga poster anon definitely needs more credit. Kudos to him.
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>>38567123
I'm not OP.

And yeah, I'll post the rest of the chapter later. This initial bit is the only part where the new movie diverges notably from the original with the entire Sakaki/Mewtwo battle though.
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>>38567149
Stupid me. Posted "OP" instead of "anon" for some reason.

I wonder if that's the new movie diverging from the original or the manga diverging from the movie, though.
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>>38567185
Chances are it's the movie. They wanted to shill Armored Mewtwo, so they wrote in a new action scene featuring it.
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>>38567122
>You’re the entitled little cunt throwing a fit because you can’t accept the show for what it is
No u
The anime has always been shoneshit from OS-XY. After SM we're going back to the based status-quo. Get fucked ugly SMtard
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>>38566254
>>38566397
>forumshit
Stay there, shitstains.
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>>38567367
>don't discuss anime in the anime thread
Nigga what?
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>>38567094
thank you. i imported my own copy because th is seems really interesting.
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>>38566793
Don't mind if I do!
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>>38567094
would you be okay if i credited you somehow if good scans come along and typeset this all up for you when you eventually finish those 64 pages?
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>>38567094
>when Mewtwo strikes back, he doesn't slap or punch, he straight up tries exterminating the world
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>>38567503
Not just "okay", I'd appreciate it. I'll toss up an imgur album once I'm done.

And while I'm at it:
>>38566990
>Sakaki: DO THEY HAVE VALUE BEYOND THAT?

I'll change that to
>DO THEY HAVE ANY OTHER VALUE?
My original line sounded a bit too much like an actual question rather than the rhetorical statement it's supposed to be.

There's probably some other bits I should tweak as well, I was kinda just translating by the seat of my pants here.
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>>38567600
How would i credit you besides anon if this were to be put on mangadex and subsequently all manga sites since they just yoink off them.
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>>38566954
>Many people overseas dropped the anime long time ago and prefer shows of their own country that are far better than pokemon (Gravity Falls, Phineas and Ferb etc etc)
Pokémon airs in over 100 countries, you dipshit. And a quick search for Cartoon Network's XY ratings from 2015-2016 shows that it consistently got between 800,000 to over a million viewers per episode. That's pretty high, considering it put Pokémon consistently within the top 30 TV shows in the United States, including sports broadcasts. Just because you don't watch something doesn't mean the target demo isn't.
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>>38567474
>interesting
It's literally the same story as the first movie, anon
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>>38567626
Anon is fine.
You know this thread has scanlated Pokemon manga before, right?
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>>38567645
Those were fun days.
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>>38567481
would she let him see her naked or her panties?
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>>38567666
>were
I mean, we're scanlating this new one now, aren't we?

It'd probably be a bit more fun if it was an actually new movie and not one we all know the story to already, though.
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>>38567707
That's kind of the point, if it were new it'd be more fun.
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>>38567756
Imagine if we got an adaptation of last year's movie
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I saw Etna's pic on the 4chan banner and it occur to me, what if Ash traveled to Galar with two girls like Etna & Flonne? Basically one girl will be a sadist like Etna while another one is a sweet airhead like Flonne. Ash will regain his original personality with his DP level intellect means he will be both snarky, smug and sweet, kind..

Off course Etna has to be fully clothed which is good since she is prettier with clothes.
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>>38567696
If your name isn't Ash then stop asking.
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>>38567627
Source
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>>38567878
1.- Who the fuck is that? Not everyone plays the same shit as you.
2.- Ash has always been the same so he won't "regain" anything even if you whine until the end of times.
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>>38568042
>2.- Ash has always been the same

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXTxKu81p0I

Nope since Ash from DP, BW, XY and S/M are different. He feel completely different character than the original Ash.

>1.- Who the fuck is that?

Etna from disgaea D2
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>>38568166
He's only different to you because you're still stuck on the dub.
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>>38568178
It has nothing to do with dub, its mainly excuse XY fans made up since XY Ash is completely out of character compare to OS Ash.
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>>38568196
It has everything to do with the dub. The only excuse here is the sorry one you make because you want him to be a snarky shit for no legitimate reason when in even OS he wouldn't get pissy unless someone shat on him.
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>>38567772
Edits of Lisa getting doujin dialogue within it?
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>>38567534
That is more like the 4kids version.
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>>38568214
>It has everything to do with the dub

Why don't you actually post the actual Japanese version to prove me wrong? Original Ash was smug, snarky, boastful, attention seeker, mischievous, self centered, short tempered, competitive and edgy. He was completely the opposite of XY Ash. He share the same character archetype as Ranma and Yusuke.

It seem you are blaming the dub because you want princely Ash despite it being out of character for him.
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How bad is the XY dub compared to OS dub?
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>>38567949
Source for what? Pokémon airing in over 100 countries?
https://www.pokemon.co.jp/corporate/en/services/
XY episodes airing on CN getting around 800,000 to over a million viewers? Here's a few random dates:
http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-100-saturday-cable-originals-network-update-10-3-2015.html
>Top 40 Original Cable Telecasts (Oct. 3, 2015)
>29: POKEMON THE SERIES XY
>Total viewers: 1,054,000
http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/the-sked/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-update-12-5-2015.html
>Top 150 Original Cable Telecasts (December 5, 2015)
>20: POKEMON THE SERIES XY
>Total viewers: 963,000
http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-4-30-2016.html
>Top 150 Original Cable Telecasts (April 30, 2016)
>25: POKEMON THE SERIES XYZ
>Total viewers: 798,000
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>>38568256
Music change and the voice acting kind of fucks up XY's dub but it's closer to the source in script than OS. Basically it's a damned if you do damned if you don't with both.
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For folks who hate the dub and avoid it, you all seem to talk about it a lot and know a lot about it.
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>>38568254
The fact that you missed a lot of Ash's characteristics because you made your ridiculous list says a lot when in OS he was just a bigger idiot and everything he did was because everyone was taking a shit on him.
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>>38568306
Fuck off Ash.
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Edit of Lisa wearing her uniform for the entire movie when?
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>>38567696
>>38568306
4u
https://pastebin.com/wyu7SBuP
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>>38568331
But I'm Tierno and I wanna take that virginity
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>>38568320
>The fact that you missed a lot of Ash's characteristics

No, it seem that you ignoring a lot of Ash's actual characteristic despite him showing all those traits in the anime.

>in OS he was just a bigger idiot

And with this line you have proved that you don't know anything about OS Ash.
OS Ash was actually shown to be smarter than other kids in various occasion. Most of his mistake on OS series came from his inexperience and lack of knowledge as a trainer. But he was shown to be an quick thinker on multiple occasion in the series. Such as the time when he used Misty's bike to charge Pikachu or turn Team Rocket heat-seeking missile on them.
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>>38568349
>Tierno posting online ever again after being btfo
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>>38568424
>ignoring a lot of Ash's actual characteristic
>And with this line you have proved that you don't know anything about OS Ash. OS Ash was actually shown to be smarter than other kids in various occasion.
>literally everyone pisses on him for being an idiot and even he knows that he's dumb to which he admits
All you're doing is proving that you're confusing your headcanon with reality (again).
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>>38566988
>The main problem was Serena being so bland that she didn't even felt like a 10 year old girl.

That doesn’t make any sense
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>>38569000
>expecting him to ever make sense
You should know better.
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>>38567046
This probably would’ve looked incredible animated, but instead, CG shit
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>>38567949
I have people like you. A 3 second google search answers what you are asking 10 fold.
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>>38568254
That’s a good thing. That means his development and maturity points actually went somewhere
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>>38568450
>All you're doing is proving that you're confusing your headcanon with reality (again).

Except I actually proven my "headcanon" to be canon in the actual anime.

>>literally everyone pisses on him for being an idiot and even he knows that he's dumb to which he admits

Oh ya, you want pokemon anime to be like your fantasy La La Land where everybody would kiss Ash's feet and girls would throw themselve on him. But this is not how real friend acts in both real and fiction world like One Piece, Naruto, Doreamon, Digimon, Black Clover, Fairy Tail etc etc,
Brock and Misty may criticized Ash for his rocky mistake but both of them have also acknowledged Ash's good quality and respected him. They didn't act like Ash's lackey that are hopeless without him and only exists to idealize him like Serena and Clemont.

There are difference between friends and lackeys. Real friend respect each other but they does not hesitate to criticize each other and even tease one another. People who actually gone outside and hung around with their friends knows this far better than anybody.
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>>38569133
>he still thinks his head canon is canon to the anime
>tries talking about friendship when he can't get social cues himself
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>>38569064
Oh please, there is a difference between development and poor writing. If you were right than every protagonist would have start act princely like XY Ash. But all the well developed protagonist maintain their old personality while changing intellectually. Unless you gonna claim all those protagonist to be poorly developed while XY Ash is only developed protagonist.

The fact that Ash can't win a league tournament in 20 years and his biggest achievement on Kalos was beating a rookie trainer three time in a row proves his development and maturity gone nowhere. Even Luffy from One Piece is more developed than Ash despite barely changing at all.
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>>38569164
Sunshine just so he gets BTFO by a kid again?
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>>38569064
It's not good enough because he's not acting like a faggot.
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>>38566176
None. Canon family!
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>>38569185
Picture and post you replied to unrelated.
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>>38566962

because they are boring as fuck, repetitive, uncreative and often wasted potential?
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Fire's only purpose in the episode was to shill Corocoro some more.
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>>38569306
That's going to be all week.
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How many weeks until Ash jobs at the league?
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>>38569064
>That’s a good thing. That means his development and maturity points actually went somewhere

only in AG and DP

after that it's practically a new character
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>>38569424
It's still the same character.
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>>38569424
XY Ash is literally the successor to DP Ash. If XY came right after the DP series it'd feel like a logical continuation. XY Ash is the one who just came off of defeating Darkrai and tying with Latios.
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Anyone bored yet? When are we getting SwSh news?
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Serena when?
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>>38569478
Serena's dead
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>>38569481
Still alive actually. And always will be.
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>>38569478
Whenever the fuck she shows up.
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>>38569478
Serena's departure was written in a way where she can't just come back for a visit like Misty/May/Dawn did because they'd have to acknowledge or follow up on the kiss. And that's too hard to do unless the show was coming to a full end some day. That's why she probably won't appear for a long time if ever.

For the most part though old character cameos ended with Dawn in 2012. I don't think any of the SM characters will show up in the Gen 8 saga either.
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>>38569590
I mean it's doable to bring her back, acknowledge all that, and still continue but I'm more concerned about a series being good first and foremost. You already know how things went with Dawn during BW and Brock and Misty got the shaft this gen.
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>>38569615
I think the problem is how do you follow up or acknowledge it? Does Ash remember the kiss...comment on it? Does Serena kiss him again if she leaves? Do the writers just ignore it and pretend it didn't happen?

I also think Yajima would be the one to write any Serena return episode, and with him not working on the main anime right now it's probably why none of the other writers want to touch it.
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>>38569514
Nope. Plane to Hoenn crashed/blew up. It was on the news. Sorry to say.
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>>38569647
Wasn't Serena's flight that crashed.
I'm sorry the attempted murder didn't work.
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I wish Serena got a special because I'm curious if Millfeui stalked her to Hoenn. I wonder if they will have a lot of lesbian experimentation before Serena meets Ash again. Serena wouldn't be cheating on Ash either because they're both girls so it doesn't count.
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>>38569625
Following it up, I don't know, enough spaghetti to make the Pokemon world into Poke-Pangaea or something along those lines. Not like they have to do much anyway when they have reminders of her every now and then, but whatever. She'll just return whenever she does, the concern's really whether it's a good or bad series she returns to.
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Ep 89...finally time for Serena's Eevee?
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Serena's Eevee likes to dance, seems a lot like Lana's Eevee
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Watching this ep after SM, it feels repetitive to have two Eevee's with female leads in a series in a row. At least Dawn didn't get an Eevee
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When does Bonnie go back to her first voice? The replacement isn't bad, but she doesn't make Bonnie sound as cute
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Serena in pajama's
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Serena's appeals are better than most coordinators
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TR only with 2 pokemon kinda gets stale an entire saga. Anyone miss when they had 2 pokemon each for a total of 4...and Wobbufett?
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Eevee is a scaredy cat.
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>>38570141
>it feels repetitive to have two Eevee's with female leads
Three actually: May, Serena and Lana.

I don't get it though. Why is Ash not allowed to have an Eevee ever? It can't be because of its looks, since both Gary and Gladion had their own.
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>>38570277
I mean in a row. Between May and Serena there was a long gap without one since Dawn and Iris didn't get one. Now it's like back to back
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Serena is taller than Shauna now? Weren't they the same size before?
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What would your reaction be if we get to see Matori in a swimsuit in this week's episode?
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Shauna knows about Serena's crush too. So that's how many characters now, Millefeui, Bonnie, Shauna?
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I'm liking these multiple Serena focused eps in a row, it makes her feel more like a lead character similar to the way May and Dawn were treated.
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I like Serena taking an interest in battling
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Why do people hate Tierno again? His dancing gimmick is genuinely entertaining. The battle was good even with no ending and Serena stopping just because she thought of an appeal
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>>38570502
Tierno hate stems from the games. Tierno's not generally hated, but he was used for shitposting.
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The CG effects in the tripokalon's and entrance from Pierre make the Contests look like some backwater small time thing
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Wut, how did Serena know what Gloom's evolved forms were? She never saw them in XY.
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>>38570621
Kalos has a better educational system than most regions.
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This is the first ep we see short haired Serena in her tripokalon dress, she's cute.
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"Next comes the charm of a beautiful and sexy adult" referring to Jessie. Did the pokemon anime really use the term, "sexy?"
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>>38570665
Japan use that term in their kids shows all the time.
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>>38570311
She’s a big gal.
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So Serena has two keys already and only needs one more for Master Class? Damn, this is like half the screentime of Contests, her quest is half over already and it felt like it just started.
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>>38570695
She's an idiot.
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I also realized that fat rival came back and they didn't even bother to show her appeal...she was completely absent in the final round too. Like...what was the point of her
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7th Gym leader had a creepy opening
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James being Prof. Oak is great.
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So are the Giovanni boss fantasies dead? I'm 92 eps into XY and haven't seen a single one. Were they in BW at all at the end? I remember them being used to death in AG and DP
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>>38570621
Because not every kid in the anime is a retard that doesn’t know what the internet is
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This ep seems to foreshadow the Zygarde crisis pretty nicely.
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>>38570791
Serena pulls out her pokedex every time she sees a pre-Kalos pokemon. She definitely doesn't know what most of the older pokemon are.
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Holy shit, AshGreninja foreshadowed? What did people think when they saw this ep not knowing what that was about?
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>>38570820
I actually don’t remember what >we thought it’d be, hell I don’t remember when A-Ninja was first announced either. And I don’t think nyafuu has archived threads from around that time.
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This is weird, Froakie gets a backstory of being a loner and not getting along with others that never seemed to be part of his personality from all this time till now. It feels more like Treecko's backstory from AG
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That's all for tonight, I'll watch the Gym battle tomorrow. I cannot believe I'm done with XY already. I've only been watching 3-4 eps a day and it flew by. XYZ is next.
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>>38570875
First few episodes when Sycamore talks about Froakie not being able to properly work with previous trainers.
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>>38570944
Please stop posting, no one cares.
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>>38570972
This is the anime discussion thread and I'll continue to do so. Given some of the replies to my posts it does seem people are interested to see how I view the series, this is my first time watching it fully, whereas before I only watched the tail-end of the series and some of the Amour episodes.
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>>38570820
Ash-Greninja was already revealed like two days before that happened
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>>38570972
SMfags seething as usual
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XY is so good, guys
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>>38571210
Bottom right looks like a blonde Akko
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>tfw high resolution version of the uniform model never
Why even live?
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>>38571210
I still feel like she doesn't seem like a Pokemon character, but from some other anime. Her whole design feels like it came out of a hentai.
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>>38571453
So does Largo's with her garters and short dress and clings to her figure.
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>>38571453
Based Director making magic happen by telling people to go crazy as always.
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Why didn't they remake this poster in 3D?
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I still wonder what the fuck the dub will do with this movie due to all the new voice actors. Are they going to simply re-use the 4kids dub track and place it in the CG movie? Or record new voices with the current cast?
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>>38571678
You already know the answer. Mewtwo's VA is reprising the role, so they're going to obviously to redub everything with the current cast.
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>>38571698
You mean his english VA? Didn't he die or something? I recall that being the reason Mewtwo had a different voice in Movie 16.
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>Bans your entire episode
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>>38571698
Which is going to be suicide in the west where people thrive on nostalgia, something that a freshly dubbed M22 would have none of.
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>>38571712
It's bullshit the Lorelei and Orange Islands ep Stage Fright aren't on the new DVDs. They're on the classic DVD sets I bought about a decade ago, even Holiday Hi-Jynx is.
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>>38571706
A common misconception. The Philip Bartlett who died isn't the same Philip Bartlett who voiced Mewtwo. M16 was a different Mewtwo in both English and Japanese, that's why she had a different voice.
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Why were the writers so reluctant to bring back the original Mewtwo? The last we've seen of him was in some of the movie openings in Hoenn where he was wearing a cape and looking over a city, but he's never really appeared since.
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>>38571737
I manged to find them from a goodwill store cheap on Ebay. Thankfully most people there haven't figured out they have banned episodes.
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>>38571706
Japanese VA. Since the role is being redone that means they're going to need to redo lines for the dub.

>>38571720
Wakarimasen lol. Besides the bad human CG, Mewtwo's role being reprise meaning they're going to redub and not use 4Kids dubbing it was obvious it was going to be a big fuck you to nostalgiafags.
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>>38571759
There were some Kanto and Orange Islands DVDs re-released somewhere around 2008-2009 or so, those are the ones with the old Jynx eps still there.
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>>38571754
One of the Mega evolution specials shows the original Mewtwo with the female Mewtwo fly off immediately. Since the female Mewtwo was Mega Mewtwo Y, we can see the original male one became Mega Mewtwo X.
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>>38571506
I really hope he comes back

Story and action driven Pokéani is so good
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>>38571795
He comes back as executive director leading the movies and anime because Ohmori wants an anime that follows what he wants about the strongest.
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>>38571773
With the Orange Islands having a general re-release that's gotten as cheap as $10 I don't trust ebay sellers to have the right version of the late 2000s release.
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Jynx feet
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>>38571210
God she's so perfect.
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I can only imagine what Ash said here in the Japanese dub
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Were Misty's shorts always that short?
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PRIMA IS REALLY HERE?!?!?!
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The Misty reaction shots are worth the price of admission.
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It feels weird with this actually being a mature anime woman and not some 10 year old who just started their Pokemon journey.
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Gee I wonder what they could have cut here.
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>>38572215
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My beautiful wife Prima can count to Potato
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Holy fuck calm down with the spam
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What the actual fuck is going on here?
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>>38572246
Some passfaggot is spamming the thread.
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>>38571720
>worrying about nostalgia
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>>38572235
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>>38572293
>worry about dubs at all
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>>38572293
>watching dubs
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>>38572293
>worrying about the west
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>>38572274
Not Serena
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>>38572274
God I miss her.
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>>38572274
Too perfect.
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>>38572308
>>38572310
>implying

>>38572314
That I can agree.
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>>38572274
I miss those legs.
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>>38572274
Didn't appear enough.
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>>38572274
There are none.
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>>38572327
It doesn't matter anyway, it's just going to get the usual meme showing in burgerland that's not going to make anyone any significant amount of money.
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>>38572318
Get lost Ash.
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>>38572328
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I miss Millefeui.
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>>38572350
Unf
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>>38572350
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What a best girl that Millefeui was.
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>>38572360
Which episode was this again?
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>>38572360
Best girls.
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>>38572345
These two needed more art.
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>>38572350
Muh
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>>38572353
We all do.
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Post more Millefeuis
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>>38572371
Dumb newfag.
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>>38572384
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I want to marry a Millefeui.
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>>38572397
Serena pls.
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>>38572397
Satoshi pls
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>>38572397
Literally who doesn't?
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>>38572408
Threesome when?
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Was Millefeui the best character in XY?
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>>38572418
Yes.
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>>38572418
No in the entire series
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>>38572414
When Terufuu stops being ded
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>>38572445
;_;
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>>38572448
Millefeui needs more cosplay
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>>38572448
Is there more Millefeui cosplay out there?
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>>38572445
Fucking when?
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I miss XY.
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>>38572480
We all do.
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Cute



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