>game so bad it killed the entire spinoffbased
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furry kusoge series
>game so bad it killed the entire spinoffDid they really have to go full furry this last game?
>>38564639It was a pretty good game.GameFreak killed outsourced Spin-Offs because they make Main Line look like shit.
>>38564639It sold pretty well
Super Mystery Dungeon is much MUCH better than Explorers of Sky.>"b-b-but muh comfy Wigglytuff's guild!! I hate being in elementary school ;(""No!"Sure Explorers' story is cool by Pokemon standards and had enough twists to tickle my 14 year old brain, but the gameplay was a slog (also too easy) you suffered through for the story. Super Mystery Dungeon's gameplay is so good that it's by far my favorite roguelite. Each dungeon is shorter but harder than those of its predecessors, with a lot more variety in movesets and the emera system encouraging exploring the whole floor and mixing things up on each run.I can rewatch Explorers' cutscenes on YouTube, but if I actually want to replay a GAME, I'd play Super again in a heartbeat. Oh and Super has one of my favorite soundtracks in vidya, if it were the OST to a high profile game it'd be hailed as one of the greatest of all time by everyone, too bad it's a Pokemon spinoff everyone overlooks
>>38564652I wanted to jokingly say based about one of them, but no, there isn't a single good thing from this image
>>38564652For some reason, people's fursona being 'pokemon but with a human haircut and glasses' is one of the most pathetic things I can think of.
>hardest game in series>most refined gameplay in series>all dungeons shorter but harder than previous games; simultaneously less tedious and more challenging>huge variety in learnsets instead of Tackle and Water Gun for 80% of the game>more moves with different properties, instead of 90% of moves being 1-tile like previous games>emera system adds lots of variety, makes the game more like a roguelike, encourages exploration of entire floor>11/10 god-tier music, unironically one of the best vidya soundtracks from the past few years>items are actually useful and necessaryWelp, time to reinstall Super Mystery Dungeon. What a great gamehttps://youtu.be/usuKnzJLoHUhttps://youtu.be/U_26FmINEJI
>>38564670>not liking literally my mom's yamask
>>38564701if only they didn't fuck up the missions and recruits it would've been perfect!
>>38564652This is so sad.
>>38564670I like the little Arceus
>>38564701fucking this.I'm still halfway through the game and I think it's better than Red/Blue and Sky (gameplay-wise).But yeah, the better story goes to Sky easily, Super is more fun still.
>>38564639It was just as good as BRT and EoS, even better than them in some aspects.
Chunsoft isn't going to betray us and release a mobile phone game, right?
>>38564652Lucariofags are the most autistic and disgusting subhumans ever
>>38564666>>38564701god why are pmd osts so damn good
>>38564639i know this is bait but it hasn't been that long, wouldn't be surprised if they announce a new one sometime after sword and shield's release
To my shame my Torchic/Chikorita team couldn't make it past Poliwrath Pond. I'm not against starting a new game but my question is; should I give Super another shot first or should I try EoS which I've never played?
>>38564639Super > EoT/D/S > Gates > Red/Blue rescue team
>>38564639It was a great game. It's absolutely not it's fault that console spinoffs are now dead.
>>38565377>To my shame my Torchic/Chikorita team couldn't make it past Poliwrath Pond.Don't be afraid of using items and you'll make it through. Once you begin to find gold bars, use them to buy vitamins to increase your stats. Beat Cobalion as soon as you can so you get the Water Looplet to use vitamins on 2 Pokémon at once.>should I give Super another shot first or should I try EoS which I've never played?Playing Sky first might be a good idea, but only so that you get all the references Super makes to the other games.
>>38564652>wants to be a magical creature which seemingly breaks many laws of nature and logic>gives themselves short-sightedness Knowing furfags they probably use as an excuse to get anal raped. >Oh no! I've lost glasses sure hope no big pokemon sticks 20 inches up my ass
>>38565486I think they consider glasses a part of their identity. Or maybe they just think it looks cool.
>>38564652Wait what the fuck is thisI never cared for mystery dungeon, is this official art?Holy fuck I'm cringing so hard
>>38565522It's not official. It's fan art based on the official art in the OP.
>>38565522Are you serious? Of course it's not official.
Remember, there's no escape from Reborn
>>38565404>ywn have shadow-lugia in a regular gameIt's not fair.
Super did improve the combat system but the story and recruitment system was just so bad.
How could all you guys post before going through the 4 hour tutorial on how to post???
>>38565821The recruitment system was fine, just different. Only problem are the breaks. Story was okay, second half was a bit confusing but Serene Village was fun. Gates to Infinity still has the best story.
>>38566004It's not a 4 hour tutorial, it's a few 30 second tutorials being spread thorough the first 4 hours of the game.
>>38566041Which are all shit and limit you to walking from one cutscene to the next.
>>38566059Are you referring to the game forcing you to progress the story?
>>38566072No, I'm refering to basically sitting through a video instead of playing PMD.
>>38566080All of the games are cutscene heavy though. Well, except the Wiiware one.
>>38566086Not as much as Super. Look at the first hours of PMD/2. You can do your own jobs and shit in what? 30 minutes? Probably less.
>>38566005>The recruitment system was fine, just different"Hey, remember when you could have other pokemon on your team? Well now that you're 50% of the way through the entire game, despite still being into tutorial village, you can have any pokemon ever made on your team! Even the vast amount of genuinely useless ones! Except you don't actually recruit and form any type of emotional attachment to them, they're just pokemon you complete quests for doing you a favor and coming along for a bit, or just friends of friends that you'll never pay attention to because HEY here's also a free level 50 Salamence two dungeons into the game. We understand that's going to make you never need to take anyone else ever, so every so often they'll just be too busy to be on your team and lock the option to take them. But hey, this level 5 Burmy is feeling energetic today, why don't you take it with you to this end game fire-based level?"
38564639Not even worth the (You)
I want PMD to come back so bad. ;_;
>>38566296This right here and the TERRIBLE pacing. Otherwise would have been an at least tolerable game.
>>38566412you can play chocobo haha
>>38566511or any other md game. they're not bad.
>>3856470170% of the main story is filler. The story only gets it going once you're approaching the credits.Explorers also still has a more memorable OST.Recruits suck
>>38564652Why do people keep reposting this?
>>38566535>70% of the main story is filler. The story only gets it going once you're approaching the credits.It's the other way around. 70% of the story is good, the part before the credits is just a bunch of random plot twists and Explorers references.>>38566553I also wonder this. Stop posting that please.
>>38566535>70% of the main story is filler. The story only gets it going once you're approaching the credits.seriously, just cut the whole school part down to just an intro or something (or even better, cut it out altogether) and the game would have been way better.
>>38566589>giving up comfy school slice of life with pokemon for an explorers fanfic full of characters with no personality and nonsensical plot twist
>>38566831yes1000fuckingpercent yesYou wan SoL? Play a dating sim VN or something. You're probably one of those people desperately wishing you could go out on dates with your partner in the game.God forbid a game about adventure and fighting animals actually has adventure and fighting in it, right? Crazy idea, but maybe, just MAYBE if they didn't have to cram the actual adventure and story behind an 8 hr long tutorial zone, they could have actually devoted time to fleshing out the guild characters and plot more
>>38566511>>38566521This. The PMD games are actually the worst ones
>>38564639>kills non-mobile spinoffs by selling worse than literal cardboard
I think Super is a decent game and much better than Gates, but the anons saying its on par with Explorers or better are delusional.Super is almost entirely ruined by the garbage recruit system, dreadful pacing and intro. I mean you can't even name the pokemon, how the fuck are you supposed to self insert?
>>38567187The gameplay is much better than explorers and the story has way less plot holes.
>>38565404>XDUnderage and redditpilled
>>38567012You can have adventure and fighting in a setting like Serene Village. In fact, Super did just that. Having more in-depth interaction with the characters/the partner could be fun, but I'm not "desperately" asking for it.
>>38567436and more interesting ideas and better characters (in serene village, at least)
>>38567583>using that meme in 2019friendly janitors are lazy fucks and some of them will ban users if yo usay anything bad about their pokemon
>>38567837Can't beat them, join 'em
>>38567187>are delusionalThe term you're looking for is "disagree".
>>38567793>You can have adventure and fighting in a setting like Serene Village. In fact, Super did just thatif your idea of adventure is "okay class today you're going to run through a 3 minute long dungeon to learn about emeras, which I will explain to you before, during and after your expedition in detail that a toddler would think is overkill", then I'm sorry but your bar on adventure is LOW. Did you also enjoy when SM stopped you ever 2 minutes to give you a cutscene on what Lily has been up to?
>>38567820not even remotely close
>>38567960I was referring to plot points like fighting Gabite, the Beedrill, the Litwick, saving Goomy, finding Ampharos.>duringDidn't happen.>and afterI don't remember this happening either.
>>38567990I actually had to look up what those bosses were. The village was such a boring slog I didn't even remember them.Again, very low bar.
But it did just fine. The partner fucking sucks though
>>38568208Really? Who's your favorite?
>>38568249not them, but if I had to pick, probably Explorers partner >= Rescue partner >>> Super Partner. Never played gates so idk what they're like in that one.Super partner was just such an obnoxious asshole.
>>38564639If GtI or those shitty eshop versions nobody remembers didn’t kill the franchise than Super for sure won’t.
>>38565404>badI didn't think it was possible to be so wrong
>>38568411Super and GtI had my favorite partners. Rescue Team and Explorers were kind of boring desu.
Didn't buy it and won't buy others if they keep their garbage recruitment system, among other things. I think the best part of the older games was how well their 2D pixelated style worked. Gates to Infinity just had too much BS and too few dungeons for me, not to mention lack of variety.
Super is unironically kino
>>38568957noooo it's different so it's bad! like gen5!
>>38564639There's still a whole well of untapped potential here. I remember some anon who was designing a PMD fangame several years back. Haven't been to /vp/ much to catch up. I wonder what happened to that faggot.
>>38564701>hardest game in seriesI'm gonna stop you right there, the game's piss easy fi you know how to play it, if you manage to complete the Salamence mission once it appears you have a lv.50 dragon as a playable character in a moment you're supposed to be around lv.12, that shit's broken and can carry you for pretty much half the game, the emera system is also broken once you realize how to abuse them.This game by far is the easiest to cheese through.
>>38564652>Zoroark is unchanged
>>38569166Everything is easy "if you know how to do it". Super is harder to figure out for those who are unfamiliar with it. Remember, those games are for children. And I know children had trouble with Explorers. Wouldn't be surprised if the ones who had Gates to Infinity as their first game had trouble with it, too. Super is undoubtedly the hardest. You're just more skilled than the target audience.>This game by far is the easiest to cheese through.Not as easy as stopping 20 minutes to grind a couple times during the story.
>>38569249Why wouldn't anyone know how to do it? You have a 5 hour tutorial for that!
>>38569166And yet you never see anyone complain about how hard the previous games are, while Super is well known for its difficulty.
>>38567134>DLC presumably cancelledI'm still mad, Pokken was actually lots of fun.
>>38565821>5 damage A attackdefend this
>>38567134maybe they shouldn't have released the same game like 1 year after they already released it
>>38569296Super's difficulty mostly comes from terrible balancing. Sacred Ruins isn't a fair kind of hard, it's a bullshit kind.>gastly that most pokemon flat out can't hurt because of starting with Normal moves, that takes like 3 damage from the A attack, that can also stunlock you for dozens of turns>pelliper that can just snipe you from across the room>shedinja you probably can't even kill, but the early enemies can kill them and if that happens you're even more fucked>bellossom OHKO's the entire pokedex>durants with an OHKO attack>cloyster with hydro pump>pyroar AKA Mr Hyper Beam>delphox with nothing but ranged attacks and a random wand>the game doesn't ease you into this shit at all, this is almost all on the first few floors
>>38569458On the same note, the only 99f low level dungeon in the game is pathetically easy. You just find an Ally Reviver emera and cower behind your allies for 99 floors.
I want to fuck my riolu partner so badly
>>38569458Sacred Ruins cockblocking my 100% of that game still haunts me
>>38564639It's not fair
>>38568249No idea, probably Explorers by default? I don't remember how Rescue Team's partner behaved.
>>38570221RT's partner get turned into a blank NPC post game.
>>38570229yeah but to be fair, they all do that in the post game
as much as I love pokemon, OP ur not wrong
>>38570160Right? I can knock out Zero Isle South any day of the week but Sacred Ruins is just plain bad game design, especially because there's no reward.
>>38570313I don't really mind the lack of a reward. That sort of thing I would always leave for last in a game anyway. I just have had a few too many bad run-ins with those Bellossom after finally getting some momentum. I could probably get it if I kept trying, but it just feels like I'm fishing for a random number generator to be kind
The next Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is coming to Switch in 1-2 years.
>>38570344I wish I knew what level that fucking Bellossom was, because whatever it is, it's astoundingly high. There is no reason a pokemon found that early on should be able to OHKO pokemon like HEATRAN with a grass move of all things.
>>38570355I will respond to this post in 2 years. Don't lie to me.
>>38564701>posts music to try to prove how good Super's music is>generic and forgettablehttps://youtu.be/Xemre8L7hKshttps://youtu.be/NvGA_p9wsi4https://youtu.be/9hSrrXJkHjQhttps://youtu.be/Tifw1fPKhb4https://youtu.be/SeTquTnNO8ghttps://youtu.be/9zaERUdyW1khttps://youtu.be/3DdXpvykQjwI don't even dislike SMD.
>>38571890>SMD>generic and forgettable
>>38571910I'm only basing this on the examples he posted.
>>38569416I was like super into pokken until they pulled that bullshit, why not just wait until the switch is out or at least announce before that they're going to drop support for the switch version?I'm still super salty about it. God I hope the developers get fucked with a rusty railway tie.
>>38564639I'm pretty sure this was planned to be the final MD installment from the start. That's why they really focused on having all the pokemon in it.
>>38572043Sky had all the pokemon in it, barring Arceus anyways. It's not really any different
>>38564652 cursed image
>>38565821 wouldn't say the story was bad but it took forever to get going. I was so bored for the first few hours of the game
>yfw the next PMD game is a Fantasy-Life-esque life-simulator game where you can be any Pokémon you want and choose to be stuff like a criminal, explorer, rescuer, shopkeeper, etc
>>38564701Super also had the best partner.
>>38572654I don't care about being ANY pokemon since I can't imagine they'd do all the portraits in that case, but I want some of the oddball choices back. Super sucked in that regard, that you had to be a starter or Pikachu or Riolu. I want the Cubone, Machop, Shinx, Vulpix, Axew, etc. type options back.
>>38564639Super was way better than Gates
>>38573734>tfw the starters from Adventure Squad never returnedat least i feel justified in starter editing for them
>>38573734>>38573804I guess story evolution is the reason we didn't have more interesting choices in Super. Even Gates to Infinity tried to at least have Axew.
>>38573826The funny thing is, most of the pokemon work fine. Ralts was going to be a starter from what I hear, but i guess pokemon with split evos were an issue.
I still think it's weird that there was a whole plot about Virizion cucking Dunsparce with his best friend.
>>38573838Huh? Where did you hear that?
>>38564639PSMD is fucking amazing and is easily the 2nd best game in the franchise, only topped by explorers of sky.
>>38565522Congrats! You win retard of the day award.
>>38569458That's one dungeon, not the entirety of the game.
>>38564639PMD was never good
>>38574273>0 negative reviews>0 mixed reviews>25 positive reviews>8.8 scoreSounds pretty good.