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Hard mode: No "all of them" answer.
Gen 5 fan here, and I wanna throw anti-Unovabros a bone after seeing them complain about the large flux of Gen 5 praise lately. I get how annoying and unfair it can be when even small criticism is met with overwhelming fanboism. So in the spirit of mutual understanding, I give you a thread where you can criticize the most polarizing aspect of Gen 5: It's Pokemon. No sweeping generalizations is all I ask though.
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>>37988186
Palpitoad and Keldeo easily
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>>37988186
stunfisk
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>>37988186
Keldeo.
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>>37988186
Palpitoad, Zoroark, Tornadus-T, Keldeo and Meloetta.
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>>37988186
Timburr line
they're ugly
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>>37988186
all of the legendaries other than Victini suck
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>>37988186
Gothitelle or Druddigon
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>>37988186
Patrat. Garbodor too. Trubbish is okay because it's kinda cute.
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>>37988227
I think I agree with this as being the worst line.
Though I do like most of the dex.
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>>37988186
Fave gen, but there are some real "ehh" designs for me, personally.

The ones in the images were and are my bros, and I always love using them.

I don't outright hate any gen's Pokemon designs, but the ones I like the least in Gen 5 are Basculin, Cubchoo/Beartic, and Stunfisk.
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I like almost every mon from Unova except the monkeys, fuck those things.
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>>37988186
Palpitoad not learning any ground moves will always annoy and disappoint me.
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>>37988186
Bisharp.
Flat out looks stupid to me.
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>>37988186
Watchog and Simisear
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>>37988186
The goth line
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>>37988278
I disliked them until I saw this. Still meh for some, but I like Japanese delinquent stuff so this was neat.
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>>37988186
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>>37988289
interesting that no-one mentioned Vanilluxe line yet, is the hate just a meme?
I hate it, but it's not my least liked - that would be Keldeo
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>>37988186
is there any similar art for the other gens?
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>>37988312
Heatmor is not that forgettable simply because of it's relation to Durant
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>>37988324
I think it's cute, tried to use one in my playthrough but it sucked
i'm indifferent to it
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Fellow unovabortion, I'd say either Leavanny or Beartic
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>>37988324
Hating the Vanilluxe line is fine so long as your argument is not just "ICE CREAM BAD". Most of the hate comes from Turner shitposts nonetheless
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>>37988186
many of them
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>>37988321
My dislike of them mostly stems from them feeling super underpowered even in game.
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>>37988205
Fuck you
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>>37988186
Diehard Unova fan, but Keldeo and Garbodor are pretty terrible in my eyes. Klink line is questionable as well.
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>>37988324
Its just that the people that do hate the line are super fucking pissed and vocal about how much they hate them. Usually people who just hate objectmons on a whole passionately.
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>>37988331
First 4 gens
https://e926.net/post/show/85585
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Either MLP or Barujina
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>>37988368
Garbage taste
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>>37988385
I like Klink but I wish it had more of an evolutionary progression than "more gears". I remember fanmade evo predictions that had it turning into all kinds of machinery
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>>37988396
I clearly removed the garbage pokemon.
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The only ones I actively hate are the genies. Don't care for the monkeys but I don't hate them either.
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>>37988401
I was expecting a pendulum clock evo
Better than living can opener
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>>37988432
I didn't care for them until they got their Therian Formes, then I liked how weird they were.
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Druddigon
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Keldeo. Purrloin is pretty close though. I'm not terribly fond of Gurdurr either, but at least it's viable ingame, even without evolving.
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>>37988186
the monkeys waste slots so they annoy me, and they're just a lame gimmick they really want to force, to the point where they'd design a gym around them. love gen 5 tho, favorite dex
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>>37988401
Yeah, changing from simple to some kind of complex machine would've been cool, like how the Litwick line goes from simpler to fancier types of lighting.
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>>37988186
The only correct answer is Alomomola.
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>>37988186
Samurott
Watchog line
Unfezant line
All the elemental monkeys
Zebstrika line
Incarnate genies
Reshiram

Basically the route 1 mons and legendaries. Most of the middle and end of this dex is god tier.
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>>37988324
I think so yeah. One of the better looking turner designs.
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>>37988312
acreate, also wtf you weird as fuk nigga
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>>37988466
Therian formes completely redeemed the Genies' designs imo. If they were the default look, I bet they wouldn't have gotten much hate initially.
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>>37988598
this, the alt forms made them great.
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Reminder that Simisear is the least popular Unova mon and the least popular out of gens 1-6
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>>37988186
Servine. Worst mid stage starter evo without a doubt
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>>37988186
Karrablast and Shellmet. I know they have the trade gimmic but the designs are just completely unlikeable. They're the most "just there" Pokémon I've ever seen.
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>>37988269
Top tier taste anon
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>>37988186
Not sure. Maybe Bouffalant? It's basically just a lame joke and it doesn't bring anything special competitively. Basculin's boring too but at least it has a point.
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Genies
Emboar
Pignite
Patrat Line
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Imma massive genVfag but i hate:
Grass and water starter line
Patrat line
Element monkies
Pidove line (mostly because i hate pigeons irl)
Basculin
Cincinno line
Klink line
Mienfoo line
Alomomola
Musketeer trio and keldeo
Djinni trio (alt forms are OK)

I know its a long list, but rest of the gen5 mons vary from great to god tier for me personally
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>>37988186
Either tepig line, garbodor (trubish is cute and lovable though), conkeldurr, darmanitan or stunfisk
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>>37988652
Regardless, i still love him
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>>37988186
Not hate, but just find them terribly underwhelming or redundant.
>All the starters
>patrat+evo
>simi-pan monkeys
>druddigon
>woobat swoobat
>Throh, Sawk
>Basculin
>Ducklett swanna
>Alomomola
>LGM+BHEYM,
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>>37988186
Emboar. I've come to realize I like every gen 5 mon at least a little but I've yet to warm up to the pig. Although I'd still rate gen 5's starters as among the ones I like the least (despite otherwise loving the region), I have came to like Samurott (again, as I liked it as a kid) as well as Serperior. But Emboar still a shit.
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>>37988186
Keldeo, Simipour, Simisear, Throh, Sawk are shit.

Pidove,trubbish, gothita, klink, cubchoo lines are meh.

The rest are based.
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Watchog. Eeeww

>>37988652
I want them to redo the popularity poll for Gen 8, just to see what changes.
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jellicents gtfo

frillish has a pretty good design, but jellicent just fuck it up
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>>37988186
I think I made a mistake here because I actually really like Yamask, but this is what happened when I played a "favourite Gen 5 Pokemon" game but picked the ones I dislike.
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>>37989456
>It's as if they just went "let's make Blitzle bigger and add a cluster of white hairs on its back"
Like a zebra?
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>>37988368
Jesus, your taste awful
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my top 10 least favorite
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>>37988186
Trubbish and Garbodor. I do get that they are meant to be actual trash but I can’t help but finding their design just revolting.
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>>37990446
Also the Timburr line and the elemental monkeys.
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>>37988186
How bout I just say the only lines I actually like:
* Leipard line
* Excadrill Line
* Scolipede Line
* Whimsicott line
* Lilligant line
* Krookodile Line
* Scraggy line
* Duosion Line
* Frillish line
* Chandelure line
* Hydriegon Line
* Gothitelle line
* Volcorona Line
* Tornadus-T
* Mienshao line
* Mandibuzz line

The rest of the pokemon are just so forgettable or plain awful. A few hidden gems but as a whole I fucking hate the gen 5 dex
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Emboar & Pignite ruined tepig.
Stoutland because I hate his coat-fur and his mustache.
The three monkeys are hideous and one of the worst design in the history of pokémon.
Unfeazant line because it's bland as fuck.
Watchog line is the worst rodent ever.
Swoobat because his ears, nose are ugly.
Throh and Sawk the two pokemon I hate the most and are top 3 of most horrible design ever.
Klinklang line just because. lol.
And finally cryogonal this is really the one I hate the most he's the one pokémon that really made me hate some pokemon. It's just a fucking snowflake that's it. No mouth, eyes, nothing special it's just a snowflake that's it.

I hate (and don't like) lots of mons in gen V but I also love a shitton.
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>>37988186
Meloetta and Keldeo are the worst pokemon ever made
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>>37988186
Honestly, Gen V has so many Pokemon that are designed to be annoying that it makes me hate them. I just had a 10 turn battle against a Tranquil because all the AI does is spam Detect and Roost. They ALL do this. Then you have
>Liepards who always Fake Out
>Watchogs with Super Fang, Hypnosis, and Confuse Ray
>Whirlipede's who always Poison Point you
This gen is annoying as fuck sometimes.
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>>37988186
Remove Keldeo, Cobalion,Heatmor,Vullaby Line,Trubbish Line, Gearu line,Lillipup line, The monkeys,Audino, Tympole line,Pawniard Line and the dex would be better
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>>37988324
I hate Gen 5 and I don’t really have a big issue with Vanilluxe. Its kind of goofy but that’s intentional. Vanillite is pretty cute, and one of my favorites from that gen.

I have a bigger problem with shit like ugly copypaste monkeys with slightly changed designs or ugly genies. The therian forms look like crap too, with their human heads and weird bra shapes on their chests. In comparison Vanilluxe seems like a great design.
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>>37988186
Durant, not because I think it’s a bad Pokemon or I dislike its design but because of my experiences with it when black and white came out.
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Worse pseudo legend
Stop being modest bros and post the shit designs Unovafags try to pass off as ""good""
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>>37988324
Only boring people hate him, he has a really fun design which is better than an unmemorable one
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I like almost all of them except the chadalier and ice cream. I like the focus on more simple animal designs like the deer
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I hate Cofagrigus. Just looks really stupid.
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>>37989355
>>37990433
Which site is this?
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>>37988186
Stunfisk.
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>>37988186
Throh and Sawk. Coming with full-on clothes and not just gloves like Hitmonchan out of an egg is some stupid shit.
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>>37991213
Tyrogue comes out wearing pants though.
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>>37988186
Simisear and Simipour. I don't think I'll ever get to a point of even liking these two.
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>>37991105
>stopped being quadrupedal
>retarded flower heads
I hate it.
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>>37988186
People shit on gen V literally daily OP, was this really necessary? The Unovabortions are just happy because two gen V characters won the Valentine’s thing.

That being said, FUCK Seismitoed. Palpitoed was pretty cute, I was having fun using the little guy until it evolved into that ugly piece of shit.
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>>37990915
Git good lol
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>>37988324
I’m indifferent to most objectmons. Most people who sperg out about Vanillite and Garbador haven’t actually played Gen 5, so they’re just parroting internet opinions that they hear.
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>>37991458
Hasn't there been more Gen 5 praise than usual lately? Besides the Valentine thing.
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>>37991528
>lately
Maybe, but it was probably boosted by the Valentine’s thing and even if it wasn’t, who fucking cares if people want to talk about their favorite gen?
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>all this Keldeo hate
>tfw it’s one of my favorites
W-what’s wrong with it? I think it’s cute.
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>>37988186
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>>37991564
It’s pony, which means bad
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>>37991564
It has a habit of presenting itself in all its art.
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What's this Valentine's Day poll people bring up and what does it have to do with Gen 5?
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>Wow sorry that Unova fans have been talking about their favorite Pokemon game on a Pokemon board, I’ll make a hate thread to make up for it! So sorry!!
OP are you for real?
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>>37990433
>panpour
Why? It's just a cute innocuous little monkey. It doesn't catch the gay until it evolves.
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>>37991696
One of the official (Japanese) Pokemon Twitter accounts had a poll where people could vote for their favorite male and female character from a preselected list. It was 7 each, one male and female from every gen. N and Elesa won despite everyone thinking that Lillie and Gladion would.
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>>37991743
Didn’t people think Cynthia was gonna win?
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>>37991711
Hey at least he’s considerate
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My personal beef is any Turnermon. But if you point any Turnermon as bad , you get spammed with Kantooo and ballsack mouth guy, so I'll say Heatmor, Keldeo, Seismitoad, Bert and Ernie, Druddigon, Zebra family and Alomomola.
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>>37988186
Watchog and Unfezant add legit nothing to the franchise.
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>>37988186
Top5 worst mons

>5 - elemental monkeys
Their color palette is ugly, their designs are boring and the no evil concept is wasted as their characteristics makes very little use of it, they also feel like padding, at least the 1st form could be just one mon.

>4 - musketeers
I know a lot of people miss ambiguous monster designs but i dont and i feel like they dont resemble anything, the design lack cohesion between the three and they just look ugly, also the pony is included as well.

>3 - klink line
Feels like it miss the cleverness of magnemite and it looks stupid instead, the idea is solid, but the execution leaves to be desired

>2 - Vanillite line
I'm not a fan of ice types fist of all, secondly, i feel like its just a bad idea overall, an ice cream pokemon simply does not bode well, the excuse for the design is also pretty weak of stalagmites/tites coming to life, it doesnt look like that at all. They did the best they could but an ice cream mon is an inherently stupid idea.

>1 - Beartic
I like polar bears, so im pretty disappointed they managed to draw the ugliest bear in all of fiction. Thee is something about the design choices but more specifically, the way they drawn this fucker that brings to me some irrational hatred. Maybe is the dumb looking paw, o the shitty looking ice beard, or the retarded body format made this way to look like a mountain, his weird proportions or the awkwardly gigantic crotch fur, maybe all of those things combined, regardless, its one of the few mons that i would actually delete from canon without feeling remorse, just go back to drawing board again.
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>>37988186
Keldeo by far
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I think it's important to make a distinction between "dislike" and "least favorite"

Looking at them all together here, I can say that my least favorite would probably have to be those dang monkeys. I guess I'm not really a monkey guy, but the main reason is that I wish they weren't all the same looking monkey. If they were really gonna go all in with a "second starter trio", how cool would it have been if they were different animals from each other? Like lite-starters, essentially. I dunno. I don't dislike them that much to be overly upset, though. The amount of Pokemon that I can say that I actively dislike is pretty small.
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>>37988186
>elemental monkeys
>Audino
>Timburr and Gurdurr (Conkeldurr is barely passable
>Sawk and Throh
>Basulin
>Goth girl line and Solosis line (They just get bigger)
>The heart fish
>The genies
>Keldeo
That's 22/156 or 14% Unova's pokemon have other problems like how so many evolve at level 50 or above making them not useful in the gen 5 games or the games afterwards.
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>>37988186
None.
But since I'm forced to pick, I'd say the Klink line. Klink feels a bit hollow and Klinklang suffers almost no-changes from Klang. Fucking Sugimori.
The amie interactions were pretty interesting, though. Unsettling, but interesting nonetheless.
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>>37992314
>They did the best they could but an ice cream mon is an inherently stupid idea.
Not saying anything about you not liking Vanilluxe but fuck off with this statement
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>>37993435
I didn't care for them much before, but their 3D animations are so damn good.
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>>37993551
Yeah, some Pokemon just need to be seen in action to really understand how they work, even if in the end you still dislike them.
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>>37988186
We didn't need three different elemental monkeys.
They could have just done it like Eevee, like they were clearly intending to.
It's not like they hid any of the other obviously intentional Gen I mirrors.
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>>37992314
>the cleverness of magnemite
It's a fucking metal ball with screws sticking out of it and magnets glued to its sides. There's nothing "clever" about it.
>an ice cream mon is an inherently stupid idea.
Kindly fuck off.
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>>37993435
>>37993551
>>37993710
Now that I look at them, I think the Klink line were meant to be a combination of the Magnemite line and Staryu line. The Magnemite inspiration is obvious, but the lack of emotive features on them reminds me Staryu/Starmie.
Personally I'm in agreement that if Klang didn't exist, the line would be received much better. Heck the Staryu comparison has me finally realize how and why Klink has a decent size fanbase.
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The snowflake bitch
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>all this druddigon hate
you proles wouldn't know taste if it bit you in the ass
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I like a lot of them, although I think the most uninspired ones are the Forces of Nature trio. Therian forms should've been their base form and nothing more.
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>>37988186
I just realized I love most of Gen 5. Only lines here I don’t somewhat like are Ferrothron and Klingklang. But I guess Kling is cute.
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>>37988186
Least Fave by Gen:
>1
Seaking
>2
Stantler
>3
Jirachi
>4
Lumineon
>5
Basculin
>6
Hoopa
>7
Meltan
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>>37988186
I actually love all gen 5 pokemon, though I do think two basculins are pointless
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>>37988186
I genuinely despise Sawk and Throh. The single worst designs out there
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>>37988368
Those are literally the best ones.
Your taste is fucking shameful
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Mostly I don't hate any pokemon (bit of a strong word for fictional animals) but i dont understand why the basculins exist:
>poor imitation of shellos/gastrpdpn with the formes
>literally my mom's fish
>same generic 'water fish' moveset as Seaking/Lumineon/Relicanth/etc without anything to make them great/unique apart frpm 'there's two'
>just kinda there

I mean if they did something like west side story rival fish gangs, give them beat up and some personality, we might be getting somewhere

Otherwise, just the genies. Stupid looking cross dressing morph suit wearing furries with bad facial hair and anal beads
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>>37988186
Probably Tynamo, not because of design because i think its pretty cute but because it only knows 4 moves till it evolves
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>>37994485
Basculin was admittedly a last minute addition to the Gen 5 dex, because at that point Gamefreak realized that Unova lacked a token fishmon. Unfortunately I guess they didn't have time to add a decent evo.
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>>37994153
I removed the ones I think are the worst.
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>>37994551
Sorry anon.
I was actually horrified by your list at first.
Based taste then
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I actually like almost all of the Gen 5 mons, even staple hates like Garbodor and Basculin, but god do I dislike Vullaby, it looks like shit.
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>>37988186
I know it's a cliché answer, but I really do hate the Vanilluxe line. Close runners-up are the Gothitelle line, the Klingklang line, Sawk and Throh, Cryagonal and literally all the legendaries.
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I'm not even an object-mon hater, but the Klink line is pretty trash. It's unappealing visually, has utterly boring evolutionary changes, and more than anything just lacks the kind of personifying traits you'd need to make a design like this work.

I mean, did you know that it's 'face' isn't really a face? It's almost like a sticker or an engraving on the metal, because it never changes. It can't emote, it can't change expressions, it can't do anything. It can express life in the same kind of way a tree can. Which is pretty fucking horrific for a creature than can respond to oral commands.
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>>37988186
Pokemon like serperior and zebstrika. They have no 'form' and look flat relative to the design. If zebstrika has stripes, then make them be like fur that comes out of the main body. Same with serperior. It has cool design but it serves no purpose, in the end it just looks like a snek. And those eyes are too flat, they don't pop out.
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>>37988186
Definitely Palpitoad and Gurrdurr
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>>37993943
Meltan is a Gen 8 pokemon
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The garbage bag... that was the worst idea ever. Even worse than patrat
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>>37993807
Enough faggots already complain about them as it
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>>37988186
Gen2 fag here. Hoenn is probably my favorite region, Unova being a close second. My favorite games are BW2 and HGSS. I made these things clear before you can discard my valuable opinion.

My biggest problem with Unova does definitely look like a sweeping generalization, but it's really not. I fucking hate all the designs that are available before Route 4. And as you probably know, Route 4 is pretty far in the game, the shit designs in the first few hours almost made me quit. In fact, I never replayed BW1. I have to admit though I like many of the designs that come from Route 4 and later, but it's just hard for me to reach that part in game.

BW2 fixed all of that, but it was a bit too late for everyone to realize the potential of BW1 and 2, and also appreciate Unova as a region.
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>>37996255
It’s only after the third gym faggot. Be patient
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>>37996269
I know fag, but thankfully there is still BW2 which is an awesome pair, and as you can notice, I didn't criticize the games for any other thing except early game designs.
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>>37988186
Samurott and musketeer legendaries. Gayest fucking designs ever.

Otherwise, great dex
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>>37988186
So many of these suck though, and I fucking love Unova for the most part.
What BW2 fags love to forget is that in BW, you couldn't catch non gen 5 mons until very late in the game, so most of the new designs are just rehashes of KANTOOOOO concepts (alomomola & luvdisc for one) that were shitty to begin with.
To pick just a few though... I always disliked everyone from Bouffalant to Heatmor. Just feels uninspired down there.
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>>37996596
>alomomola & luvdisc for one
>rehashes of KANTOOOOO concepts
Like what the actual fuck
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>>37988186
Stunfisk the Weather Trio and the Patrat line for me. I didn't realize how many Pokémon I liked from gen 5 till you made me think about it. I'd love the weather trio if they had designed the therian forms better. I'm not a big fan of cool Pokémon having tiny penises and cleavage.
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>>37996324
Someone doesn't like swords
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>>37988186
Heatmor
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>>37988186
Keldeo, one of the few Pokémon I genuinely have a distaste for.



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