Hard mode: No "all of them" answer.Gen 5 fan here, and I wanna throw anti-Unovabros a bone after seeing them complain about the large flux of Gen 5 praise lately. I get how annoying and unfair it can be when even small criticism is met with overwhelming fanboism. So in the spirit of mutual understanding, I give you a thread where you can criticize the most polarizing aspect of Gen 5: It's Pokemon. No sweeping generalizations is all I ask though.
>>37988186Palpitoad and Keldeo easily
>>37988186Palpitoad, Zoroark, Tornadus-T, Keldeo and Meloetta.
>>37988186Timburr linethey're ugly
>>37988186all of the legendaries other than Victini suck
>>37988186Gothitelle or Druddigon
>>37988186Patrat. Garbodor too. Trubbish is okay because it's kinda cute.
>>37988227I think I agree with this as being the worst line.Though I do like most of the dex.
>>37988186Fave gen, but there are some real "ehh" designs for me, personally.The ones in the images were and are my bros, and I always love using them.I don't outright hate any gen's Pokemon designs, but the ones I like the least in Gen 5 are Basculin, Cubchoo/Beartic, and Stunfisk.
I like almost every mon from Unova except the monkeys, fuck those things.
>>37988186Palpitoad not learning any ground moves will always annoy and disappoint me.
>>37988186Bisharp.Flat out looks stupid to me.
>>37988186Watchog and Simisear
>>37988186The goth line
>>37988278I disliked them until I saw this. Still meh for some, but I like Japanese delinquent stuff so this was neat.
>>37988186>>37988195>>37988205>>37988219>>37988220>>37988225>>37988227>>37988234>>37988240>>37988241>>37988244>>37988269>>37988278>>37988282>>37988289interesting that no-one mentioned Vanilluxe line yet, is the hate just a meme?I hate it, but it's not my least liked - that would be Keldeo
>>37988186is there any similar art for the other gens?
>>37988312Heatmor is not that forgettable simply because of it's relation to Durant
>>37988324I think it's cute, tried to use one in my playthrough but it suckedi'm indifferent to it
Fellow unovabortion, I'd say either Leavanny or Beartic
>>37988324Hating the Vanilluxe line is fine so long as your argument is not just "ICE CREAM BAD". Most of the hate comes from Turner shitposts nonetheless
>>37988186many of them
>>37988321My dislike of them mostly stems from them feeling super underpowered even in game.
>>37988186Diehard Unova fan, but Keldeo and Garbodor are pretty terrible in my eyes. Klink line is questionable as well.
>>37988324Its just that the people that do hate the line are super fucking pissed and vocal about how much they hate them. Usually people who just hate objectmons on a whole passionately.
>>37988331First 4 genshttps://e926.net/post/show/85585
Either MLP or Barujina
>>37988385I like Klink but I wish it had more of an evolutionary progression than "more gears". I remember fanmade evo predictions that had it turning into all kinds of machinery
>>37988396I clearly removed the garbage pokemon.
The only ones I actively hate are the genies. Don't care for the monkeys but I don't hate them either.
>>37988401I was expecting a pendulum clock evoBetter than living can opener
>>37988432I didn't care for them until they got their Therian Formes, then I liked how weird they were.
Keldeo. Purrloin is pretty close though. I'm not terribly fond of Gurdurr either, but at least it's viable ingame, even without evolving.
>>37988186the monkeys waste slots so they annoy me, and they're just a lame gimmick they really want to force, to the point where they'd design a gym around them. love gen 5 tho, favorite dex
>>37988401Yeah, changing from simple to some kind of complex machine would've been cool, like how the Litwick line goes from simpler to fancier types of lighting.
>>37988186The only correct answer is Alomomola.
>>37988186SamurottWatchog lineUnfezant lineAll the elemental monkeysZebstrika lineIncarnate geniesReshiramBasically the route 1 mons and legendaries. Most of the middle and end of this dex is god tier.
>>37988324I think so yeah. One of the better looking turner designs.
>>37988312acreate, also wtf you weird as fuk nigga
>>37988466Therian formes completely redeemed the Genies' designs imo. If they were the default look, I bet they wouldn't have gotten much hate initially.
>>37988598this, the alt forms made them great.
Reminder that Simisear is the least popular Unova mon and the least popular out of gens 1-6
>>37988186Servine. Worst mid stage starter evo without a doubt
>>37988186Karrablast and Shellmet. I know they have the trade gimmic but the designs are just completely unlikeable. They're the most "just there" Pokémon I've ever seen.
>>37988269Top tier taste anon
>>37988186Not sure. Maybe Bouffalant? It's basically just a lame joke and it doesn't bring anything special competitively. Basculin's boring too but at least it has a point.
Imma massive genVfag but i hate:Grass and water starter linePatrat lineElement monkiesPidove line (mostly because i hate pigeons irl)BasculinCincinno lineKlink lineMienfoo lineAlomomolaMusketeer trio and keldeoDjinni trio (alt forms are OK)I know its a long list, but rest of the gen5 mons vary from great to god tier for me personally
>>37988186Either tepig line, garbodor (trubish is cute and lovable though), conkeldurr, darmanitan or stunfisk
>>37988652Regardless, i still love him
>>37988186Not hate, but just find them terribly underwhelming or redundant.>All the starters>patrat+evo>simi-pan monkeys>druddigon>woobat swoobat>Throh, Sawk>Basculin>Ducklett swanna>Alomomola>LGM+BHEYM,
>>37988186Emboar. I've come to realize I like every gen 5 mon at least a little but I've yet to warm up to the pig. Although I'd still rate gen 5's starters as among the ones I like the least (despite otherwise loving the region), I have came to like Samurott (again, as I liked it as a kid) as well as Serperior. But Emboar still a shit.
>>37988186Keldeo, Simipour, Simisear, Throh, Sawk are shit.Pidove,trubbish, gothita, klink, cubchoo lines are meh.The rest are based.
Watchog. Eeeww >>37988652I want them to redo the popularity poll for Gen 8, just to see what changes.
jellicents gtfofrillish has a pretty good design, but jellicent just fuck it up
>>37988186I think I made a mistake here because I actually really like Yamask, but this is what happened when I played a "favourite Gen 5 Pokemon" game but picked the ones I dislike.
>>37989456>It's as if they just went "let's make Blitzle bigger and add a cluster of white hairs on its back"Like a zebra?
>>37988368Jesus, your taste awful
my top 10 least favorite
>>37988186Trubbish and Garbodor. I do get that they are meant to be actual trash but I can’t help but finding their design just revolting.
>>37990446Also the Timburr line and the elemental monkeys.
>>37988186How bout I just say the only lines I actually like:* Leipard line* Excadrill Line* Scolipede Line* Whimsicott line* Lilligant line* Krookodile Line* Scraggy line* Duosion Line* Frillish line* Chandelure line* Hydriegon Line* Gothitelle line* Volcorona Line* Tornadus-T* Mienshao line* Mandibuzz lineThe rest of the pokemon are just so forgettable or plain awful. A few hidden gems but as a whole I fucking hate the gen 5 dex
Emboar & Pignite ruined tepig.Stoutland because I hate his coat-fur and his mustache.The three monkeys are hideous and one of the worst design in the history of pokémon.Unfeazant line because it's bland as fuck.Watchog line is the worst rodent ever.Swoobat because his ears, nose are ugly.Throh and Sawk the two pokemon I hate the most and are top 3 of most horrible design ever.Klinklang line just because. lol.And finally cryogonal this is really the one I hate the most he's the one pokémon that really made me hate some pokemon. It's just a fucking snowflake that's it. No mouth, eyes, nothing special it's just a snowflake that's it.I hate (and don't like) lots of mons in gen V but I also love a shitton.
>>37988186Meloetta and Keldeo are the worst pokemon ever made
>>37988186Honestly, Gen V has so many Pokemon that are designed to be annoying that it makes me hate them. I just had a 10 turn battle against a Tranquil because all the AI does is spam Detect and Roost. They ALL do this. Then you have>Liepards who always Fake Out>Watchogs with Super Fang, Hypnosis, and Confuse Ray>Whirlipede's who always Poison Point youThis gen is annoying as fuck sometimes.
>>37988186Remove Keldeo, Cobalion,Heatmor,Vullaby Line,Trubbish Line, Gearu line,Lillipup line, The monkeys,Audino, Tympole line,Pawniard Line and the dex would be better
>>37988324I hate Gen 5 and I don’t really have a big issue with Vanilluxe. Its kind of goofy but that’s intentional. Vanillite is pretty cute, and one of my favorites from that gen.I have a bigger problem with shit like ugly copypaste monkeys with slightly changed designs or ugly genies. The therian forms look like crap too, with their human heads and weird bra shapes on their chests. In comparison Vanilluxe seems like a great design.
>>37988186Durant, not because I think it’s a bad Pokemon or I dislike its design but because of my experiences with it when black and white came out.
Worse pseudo legendStop being modest bros and post the shit designs Unovafags try to pass off as ""good""
>>37988324Only boring people hate him, he has a really fun design which is better than an unmemorable one
I like almost all of them except the chadalier and ice cream. I like the focus on more simple animal designs like the deer
I hate Cofagrigus. Just looks really stupid.
>>37989355>>37990433Which site is this?
>>37988186Throh and Sawk. Coming with full-on clothes and not just gloves like Hitmonchan out of an egg is some stupid shit.
>>37991213Tyrogue comes out wearing pants though.
>>37988186Simisear and Simipour. I don't think I'll ever get to a point of even liking these two.
>>37991105>stopped being quadrupedal>retarded flower headsI hate it.
>>37988186People shit on gen V literally daily OP, was this really necessary? The Unovabortions are just happy because two gen V characters won the Valentine’s thing.That being said, FUCK Seismitoed. Palpitoed was pretty cute, I was having fun using the little guy until it evolved into that ugly piece of shit.
>>37990915Git good lol
>>37988324I’m indifferent to most objectmons. Most people who sperg out about Vanillite and Garbador haven’t actually played Gen 5, so they’re just parroting internet opinions that they hear.
>>37991458Hasn't there been more Gen 5 praise than usual lately? Besides the Valentine thing.
>>37991528>latelyMaybe, but it was probably boosted by the Valentine’s thing and even if it wasn’t, who fucking cares if people want to talk about their favorite gen?
>all this Keldeo hate>tfw it’s one of my favoritesW-what’s wrong with it? I think it’s cute.
>>37991564It’s pony, which means bad
>>37991564It has a habit of presenting itself in all its art.
What's this Valentine's Day poll people bring up and what does it have to do with Gen 5?
>Wow sorry that Unova fans have been talking about their favorite Pokemon game on a Pokemon board, I’ll make a hate thread to make up for it! So sorry!!OP are you for real?
>>37990433>panpourWhy? It's just a cute innocuous little monkey. It doesn't catch the gay until it evolves.
>>37991696One of the official (Japanese) Pokemon Twitter accounts had a poll where people could vote for their favorite male and female character from a preselected list. It was 7 each, one male and female from every gen. N and Elesa won despite everyone thinking that Lillie and Gladion would.
>>37991743Didn’t people think Cynthia was gonna win?
>>37991711Hey at least he’s considerate
My personal beef is any Turnermon. But if you point any Turnermon as bad , you get spammed with Kantooo and ballsack mouth guy, so I'll say Heatmor, Keldeo, Seismitoad, Bert and Ernie, Druddigon, Zebra family and Alomomola.
>>37988186Watchog and Unfezant add legit nothing to the franchise.
>>37988186Top5 worst mons>5 - elemental monkeysTheir color palette is ugly, their designs are boring and the no evil concept is wasted as their characteristics makes very little use of it, they also feel like padding, at least the 1st form could be just one mon.>4 - musketeersI know a lot of people miss ambiguous monster designs but i dont and i feel like they dont resemble anything, the design lack cohesion between the three and they just look ugly, also the pony is included as well.>3 - klink lineFeels like it miss the cleverness of magnemite and it looks stupid instead, the idea is solid, but the execution leaves to be desired>2 - Vanillite lineI'm not a fan of ice types fist of all, secondly, i feel like its just a bad idea overall, an ice cream pokemon simply does not bode well, the excuse for the design is also pretty weak of stalagmites/tites coming to life, it doesnt look like that at all. They did the best they could but an ice cream mon is an inherently stupid idea.>1 - BearticI like polar bears, so im pretty disappointed they managed to draw the ugliest bear in all of fiction. Thee is something about the design choices but more specifically, the way they drawn this fucker that brings to me some irrational hatred. Maybe is the dumb looking paw, o the shitty looking ice beard, or the retarded body format made this way to look like a mountain, his weird proportions or the awkwardly gigantic crotch fur, maybe all of those things combined, regardless, its one of the few mons that i would actually delete from canon without feeling remorse, just go back to drawing board again.
>>37988186Keldeo by far
I think it's important to make a distinction between "dislike" and "least favorite"Looking at them all together here, I can say that my least favorite would probably have to be those dang monkeys. I guess I'm not really a monkey guy, but the main reason is that I wish they weren't all the same looking monkey. If they were really gonna go all in with a "second starter trio", how cool would it have been if they were different animals from each other? Like lite-starters, essentially. I dunno. I don't dislike them that much to be overly upset, though. The amount of Pokemon that I can say that I actively dislike is pretty small.
>>37988186>elemental monkeys>Audino>Timburr and Gurdurr (Conkeldurr is barely passable>Sawk and Throh>Basulin>Goth girl line and Solosis line (They just get bigger)>The heart fish>The genies >KeldeoThat's 22/156 or 14% Unova's pokemon have other problems like how so many evolve at level 50 or above making them not useful in the gen 5 games or the games afterwards.
>>37988186None.But since I'm forced to pick, I'd say the Klink line. Klink feels a bit hollow and Klinklang suffers almost no-changes from Klang. Fucking Sugimori.The amie interactions were pretty interesting, though. Unsettling, but interesting nonetheless.
>>37992314>They did the best they could but an ice cream mon is an inherently stupid idea.Not saying anything about you not liking Vanilluxe but fuck off with this statement
>>37993435I didn't care for them much before, but their 3D animations are so damn good.
>>37993551Yeah, some Pokemon just need to be seen in action to really understand how they work, even if in the end you still dislike them.
>>37988186We didn't need three different elemental monkeys.They could have just done it like Eevee, like they were clearly intending to.It's not like they hid any of the other obviously intentional Gen I mirrors.
>>37992314>the cleverness of magnemiteIt's a fucking metal ball with screws sticking out of it and magnets glued to its sides. There's nothing "clever" about it.>an ice cream mon is an inherently stupid idea.Kindly fuck off.
>>37993435>>37993551>>37993710Now that I look at them, I think the Klink line were meant to be a combination of the Magnemite line and Staryu line. The Magnemite inspiration is obvious, but the lack of emotive features on them reminds me Staryu/Starmie. Personally I'm in agreement that if Klang didn't exist, the line would be received much better. Heck the Staryu comparison has me finally realize how and why Klink has a decent size fanbase.
The snowflake bitch
>all this druddigon hateyou proles wouldn't know taste if it bit you in the ass
I like a lot of them, although I think the most uninspired ones are the Forces of Nature trio. Therian forms should've been their base form and nothing more.
>>37988186I just realized I love most of Gen 5. Only lines here I don’t somewhat like are Ferrothron and Klingklang. But I guess Kling is cute.
>>37988186Least Fave by Gen:>1Seaking>2Stantler>3Jirachi>4Lumineon>5Basculin>6Hoopa>7Meltan
>>37988186I actually love all gen 5 pokemon, though I do think two basculins are pointless
>>37988186I genuinely despise Sawk and Throh. The single worst designs out there
>>37988368Those are literally the best ones.Your taste is fucking shameful
Mostly I don't hate any pokemon (bit of a strong word for fictional animals) but i dont understand why the basculins exist:>poor imitation of shellos/gastrpdpn with the formes>literally my mom's fish>same generic 'water fish' moveset as Seaking/Lumineon/Relicanth/etc without anything to make them great/unique apart frpm 'there's two'>just kinda thereI mean if they did something like west side story rival fish gangs, give them beat up and some personality, we might be getting somewhereOtherwise, just the genies. Stupid looking cross dressing morph suit wearing furries with bad facial hair and anal beads
>>37988186Probably Tynamo, not because of design because i think its pretty cute but because it only knows 4 moves till it evolves
>>37994485Basculin was admittedly a last minute addition to the Gen 5 dex, because at that point Gamefreak realized that Unova lacked a token fishmon. Unfortunately I guess they didn't have time to add a decent evo.
>>37994153I removed the ones I think are the worst.
>>37994551Sorry anon.I was actually horrified by your list at first.Based taste then
I actually like almost all of the Gen 5 mons, even staple hates like Garbodor and Basculin, but god do I dislike Vullaby, it looks like shit.
>>37988186I know it's a cliché answer, but I really do hate the Vanilluxe line. Close runners-up are the Gothitelle line, the Klingklang line, Sawk and Throh, Cryagonal and literally all the legendaries.
I'm not even an object-mon hater, but the Klink line is pretty trash. It's unappealing visually, has utterly boring evolutionary changes, and more than anything just lacks the kind of personifying traits you'd need to make a design like this work.I mean, did you know that it's 'face' isn't really a face? It's almost like a sticker or an engraving on the metal, because it never changes. It can't emote, it can't change expressions, it can't do anything. It can express life in the same kind of way a tree can. Which is pretty fucking horrific for a creature than can respond to oral commands.
>>37988186Pokemon like serperior and zebstrika. They have no 'form' and look flat relative to the design. If zebstrika has stripes, then make them be like fur that comes out of the main body. Same with serperior. It has cool design but it serves no purpose, in the end it just looks like a snek. And those eyes are too flat, they don't pop out.
>>37988186Definitely Palpitoad and Gurrdurr
>>37993943Meltan is a Gen 8 pokemon
The garbage bag... that was the worst idea ever. Even worse than patrat
>>37993807Enough faggots already complain about them as it
>>37988186Gen2 fag here. Hoenn is probably my favorite region, Unova being a close second. My favorite games are BW2 and HGSS. I made these things clear before you can discard my valuable opinion.My biggest problem with Unova does definitely look like a sweeping generalization, but it's really not. I fucking hate all the designs that are available before Route 4. And as you probably know, Route 4 is pretty far in the game, the shit designs in the first few hours almost made me quit. In fact, I never replayed BW1. I have to admit though I like many of the designs that come from Route 4 and later, but it's just hard for me to reach that part in game.BW2 fixed all of that, but it was a bit too late for everyone to realize the potential of BW1 and 2, and also appreciate Unova as a region.
>>37996255It’s only after the third gym faggot. Be patient
>>37996269I know fag, but thankfully there is still BW2 which is an awesome pair, and as you can notice, I didn't criticize the games for any other thing except early game designs.
>>37988186Samurott and musketeer legendaries. Gayest fucking designs ever.Otherwise, great dex
>>37988186So many of these suck though, and I fucking love Unova for the most part. What BW2 fags love to forget is that in BW, you couldn't catch non gen 5 mons until very late in the game, so most of the new designs are just rehashes of KANTOOOOO concepts (alomomola & luvdisc for one) that were shitty to begin with.To pick just a few though... I always disliked everyone from Bouffalant to Heatmor. Just feels uninspired down there.
>>37996596>alomomola & luvdisc for one>rehashes of KANTOOOOO conceptsLike what the actual fuck
>>37988186Stunfisk the Weather Trio and the Patrat line for me. I didn't realize how many Pokémon I liked from gen 5 till you made me think about it. I'd love the weather trio if they had designed the therian forms better. I'm not a big fan of cool Pokémon having tiny penises and cleavage.
>>37996324Someone doesn't like swords
>>37988186Keldeo, one of the few Pokémon I genuinely have a distaste for.