Anyone else feel like this is the best pokemon is gonna get?I mean you have the day and night cycle, weather, seasons, sp/phy split, reusable TMs, and amazing post game.Gamefreak just seems to have run out of ideas with what to do with the Pokémon franchise after bw2, since they just keep on adding gimmicks to try and spark interest(megas, z moves, armor forms). The only thing of note that they've done so far is add the fairy type, and that was 6 fucking years ago. So b/w2 don't feel obsolete and will probably never be obsolete if this is the direction Gamefreak is gonna keep on going in.>inb4 muh ice cream and trash bag
Postgame has always been horribly overrated as it's just you trying to artificially extend playtime but without any meaningful addition to the main game, just some skinnerboxes designed to run up your hours from how dickishly they're designed. As much shit as people give B/W, it got post-plot content right by giving you the goal of exploring the east coast as well as the rest of the region for areas/mons you couldn't access, jacking up the trainer levels and giving you two tangible bosses to overcome: the now buffed to hell E4 and Alder and Cynthia.
4 > 2 > 1> 3 > 6 > 7 > 5 BW started everything that's wrong with Pokemon today, plus the hideous Pokedex
Even though I enjoyed gen 6 and eventually learned to be ok with gen 7 i do think the series has hit a wall after gen 5, they keep adding gimmicks that get droped by the next game immediately like megas, z moves, regional forms etc.
>>37985112We're talking about the sequel, which gives you not only a buffed up E4, but also Black City/White Forest for a level-based postgame along with PWT for rematches against not just Unova gym leaders, but leaders and champions throughout the series.Also, the medals.
>>37984951>removed following pokemon>reused pokemon sprites with shitty pixelated movement>best
>>37985112hgss does all that better though lol
>>37984951>those god-awful sprites>bestlolThey're really good games but people who act like they achieved some mystical pinnacle that other games failed to grasp need to fuck off. They have pros and cons like any other game in the series.
>>37985284HGSS gave you a ridiculously easy postgame Kanto then asks you to grind for 15 levels after on two gym leader rematches a day.
>>37984951>run out of ideasWhat actually happened is BW was so controversial that GF decided that taking risks was not what the fans want.
>>37985284In Unova's postgame, there are three cities and three routes. Even though it isn't the same size as Kanto, there's definitely a lot more content than there is in Kanto. What else is there to do in Kanto other than the Gym Battles?
>>37985354I will never understand the vanniluxe or trubbish hate.
>>37985759Literally genwunner autism over objectmons.
>>37985810How can a genwunner hate objectmons?
>>37984951BW2 wasn't better than the original BWSpecial and physical split was pure cancer but BW deserves credit for not making it worse like XYReusable TMs made the game even easier, but it worked well with opponents actually trying to be strongWith that said, I do think that gen 5 overall is the best after gen 2.
>>37985381You realize that's literally a gen 4 sprite but fully animated right?Is that your deal? You're a jealous sinnohfetus who can't bear the thought of another DS game actually trying to look good?
>>37985867Delusion.Most genwunners aren't even Pokemon fans, just normies who are nostalgic for a game they played as a kid.
>>37985939>Special and physical split was pure cancersomebody explain this meme to meIs it just because it makes STAB moves too good not to take?
>>37985947>fully animated>rocking from side to side robotically and overall looks like absolute trash
>>37985956Yes, and because it gives an unfair advantage for dual typed Pokemon.It was an offensive powercreep without a defensive counter act.
>>37985971Your opinions are irrelevant. They move. All the time.Unlike gen 4.
>>37986004Seething >They move. All the time.And that's the problem since they look like shit when moving.
>>37985947>sprite tweening, tilting, and scaling>>>>"fully animated"
Honestly I think we might get better gamesXY was probably hampered by being the first in 3d and tried too hard to entice people who left the games to came back as they shifted to a new consoleORAS mostly just suffers from their insistence with sticking to RS not emerald yet shoehorning in all the mega shitGen 7 is hit or miss as GF tries to do something new and really suffered from hardware constraints which caused cut featuresAll they need is another gen where they focus on nailing the fundamentals while carrying over the improvements that have been made
>>37986016>>37986032How do you like your 2 frames Garchomp? Oh yeah he was supposed to be the star of the gen. That's too bad anon. But thankfully for you BW gave him justice. You don't need to be mad. You can just enjoy it like every normal person.
>>37986126No wonder unovabortions are hated. That garbage robotic movement is a straight downgrade to the quality we had in gen 4.Cope harder.
>>37986156>quality we had in gen 4.You mean the same thing but that had only 2 frames of animation? lol
>>37986223YesA quick opening animation to give some flare and personality to the pokemon without it overstaying its welcome and showing how janky and robotic the animations are.Gen 5 was a clear step back because of its continous animations. They should have made the animations smoother and more fluid or stuck with what gen 4 did.
>>37986126>How do you like your 2 frames Garchomp?Quite a bit, actually
Gen IV’s postgame and region is more fun IMO, but these games do have the Shiny Charm, which is nice.
>>37985381Disagree that the sprites themselves were bad, but more the dynamic battle camera would scale them up too far at points and make them pixellated as fuck.>people who act like they achieved some mystical pinnacle that other games failed to grasp need to fuck offBasedNo pokemon game has reached the pinnacle because they're all both good and trash in some way.
>>37985947>>37986004>>37986126>>37986223Literally pathetic. Can't stand the harsh reality of your fave gen being bad can you? Gen 4 isn't my favourite but it definitely had the best sprites. Just because the sprites have more frames don't mean it's better. The sprites just look grainy and ugly in Gen5
>>37986002>and because it gives an unfair advantage for dual typed Pokemon.They already had that though.
>>37984951They need to make the games rated M and add tons of fan service + make the towns cities routes and pretty much everything a lot bigger.
>>37984951This game + Platinum + HGSS + overworld Pokemon + Switch graphics = GOAT Pokemon game
>>37986375But I'm not the one making bullshit excuses for saying that having less is somehow better
>>37986426You are the one trying to convince other people that newgrounds-tier "animation" is good, though.
>>37986426you're the one thinking having more is somehow automatically better. And it ain't a bullshit excuse, you're just blind, dumb or both. the sprites look extremely pixelized and ugly in motion and every person with a sane mind agrees on that. now you may continue reeeing and seething over the fact that your perfect gen5 isn't so perfect.
>>37986375the state of unova fans.i swear every thread i've seen them in they claim that every aspect of gen 5 is the best and throw a tantrum when other people disagree.it's like they are so childish in their minds that they can't deal with their game being flawed.
>>37986521my bad, quoted the wrong person, meant for >>37986426
>>37985284HGSS's problem is that it's postgame is filled with fluff that no one actually does. B2W2 actually had fun things to do>>37984951Yup. It's the best Pokemon has to offer I guess
>>37985354>muh ice creamJesus Christ do you people have no shame? OP even called you out before you did it.
>>37986004Why would I want them to move all the time if they’re gonna look like shit when they do?Unovaborts are the worst Jesus Christ And some of the sprites are literally worse versions of the Gen 4 ones
>>37985131Well this thread isn't about BW you autistic sinnohfetus, it's about BW2.
>>37985956It's bait, anon.
>>37985867Gewunner here. Objectmons don't get enough hate. People always point to the Magnemite, Voltorb lines as a type of Gen 1 hypocracy, but fail to acknowledge that objectmons happened in Gen IV look like horseshit, even worse than the Gen V ones. Bronzong and Combee look worse than any of the Gen V objects.I like Vanillite and Trubbish, but Garbodor looks more like an obese man than a garbage bag. Vanillish, Vanilluxe, Kling, Klang and Klinklang have the laziest design progression (more scoops! more gears!) and equally lame name progression. They're fillermons to the extreme.With Magneton, at least the joke made sense: it wasn't a traditional evolution but more three Magnemite stuck together. There is no goddamn excuse for that with a non-magnetic Pokemon like Vanilluxe or Klinklang.
>>37988034>Bronzong and Combee look worse than any of the Gen V objects.Stopped reading. Low IQ opinion
Can I play B2W2 without playing BW or do they reference stuff of BW?
>>37988034>an ice cream pokemon gaining more scoops as it evolves makes no sense
>>37989226Better than HGSS, Emerald, and Crystal, worse than Platinum.
>>37988979>Stopped readingSpotted the burger. Go back to /pol/ you stinking shitbag.
>>37989400>hating The United CHADS of AmericaWhy are Europoors always seething over the greatness of a single country
>>37989108The latter. There is even a feature about it https://www.serebii.net/black2white2/memorylink.shtmlThe context of this game makes more sense if you played the originals first
>>37989269Does any pokemon game have true freedom though?
>>37988034So Diglett is magnetic or...?
>>37989239>worse than Platinum.How can it be worse than platinum when platinum is worse than the other listed games?
>>37990215>Skinnyfat mongrel amerilard thinks he's a chadNice meme son.
>>37985131But everything that is wrong with Pokemon started with Gen 3.
>>37990840Keep seething kid. Maybe one day your country will save the day multiple times in a row
>>37990850>But everything that is wrong with Pokemon started with Gen 4Ftfy
>>37991174Nah, I was right with Gen 3.
>>37990850Unironically thisGen 3 started the "legendary is important" trend
>>37991212Nah, gen 4 started the whole "legendaries have to be omnipotent gods and not strong pokemon" thing as well as regular gameplay downgrades. That and the level design was trash.
>>37991212Gen 3 was pretty much your regular pokemon game.
>>37991380how was the level design worse than "dude surf everywhere LMAO"gen 3 legendaries are also God's compared to johtos tame shitI mean you went from making a few storms and rainbows to moving fucking continents and causing world wide flooding. Sinnohs are hardly a step up
>>37991877>how was the level design worse than "dude surf everywhere LMAO"because surf is one move
>>37985112>he doesn't just not want more content, he actively wants lessWhy are pokefags such brainlets?
>>37988034Bees are objects? How tf is Combee an objectmon? And Bronzong is amazing and one of the best objectmons. Interesting concept and lore fits with the religious aspect of gen 4, plus, it's also usable.
>>37990813Platinum is way better than Emerald, no competition. And Platinum has everything HGSS has but way more and better. Crystal is on par with Platinum.