/mon/ is as fucking necessary as ever (this includes things like Medabots). Otherwise the situation will get worse with threads about persona, temtem, yokai or monster crowns popping up relentlessly. Stop acting like preschool kids having recess war because digimon or yokai watch are "pokemon ripoffs" when Pokemon itself isn't exactly a complete pioneer idea, not even SMT nor that old ass game Mail Order Monsters. We know everything has the same core idea and that many of us enjoy indiscriminately other similar series and games and would like to have a space to share our taste without getting shut down because it's not Pokemon every time we want to talk about a game or show even if thematically and objecticaly they keep some relation.
>>37174779>many of us enjoy indiscriminately other similar series and games*citation needed*
>>37174779so like changing /vp/ to /mon/ or just /mon/ containment threads?
>>37174779>/mon/ is as fucking necessary as everNo it's not. Fuck off with this retarded idea.
>>37174779Pokemon is the only monster game I am ever going to care about
desu the collectathon genre is expansive enough to warrant it>pokemon>digimon>SMT>yugioh>beyblade>dragonquest>monhun>yokai watch>megaman>duel masters>MTG>medabots>2hu>bakugan>monster rancher>fossil fighters>dinosaur king>virtually any gachashit rpg
>>37174779I support changing /vp/ to /Mon/
>>37174779The entire point of /vp/ is that it's containment because Pokemon completely eclipses every other franchise. If you want to discuss other shit fuck off to /v/ or /a/.
>>37174860>because Pokemon completely eclipses every other franchise./vp/ is going the way of /mlp/ so that no longer applies. if gen 8 is nothing worthwhile you can pretty much consider this board dead
>>37174879>is going the way of /mlp/No it's not. Also /mlp/ is still around so your argument doesn't even make sense.
>>37174779>p-please let me shitty franchises leech onto the board guys!lmao nah fuck off
>>37174822I haven't considered making another containment for /mon/ because I seek inclusion and not having either a complete wasteland, shitposting or constant fake-leaks in drought seasons so we can talk about something else.Those who just say go to /v/ or /vr/ you know it's not exactly the same vibe and /vp/ exists for that same reason.I believe it's time this board adapts to new times and genuinely think everyone can benefit from a change of name. Also let's be honest it's not like Pokemon won't be the main point of discussion.
>>37174896>Those who just say go to /v/ or /vr/ you know it's not exactly the same vibeyes it is.
>>37174894>SMT Nocturne and Persona.>Shitty franchisesPick one.
>>37174779Medabots's fanbase barely exists, Digimon is legitimate garbage, Yokai watch already died and is only used for bait threads, and Pokemon could actually take a thing or 2 from smt, but they do a good job staying in /vg/.
>>37174779Yeah, at the very least allow general threads, because every year /vp/ is getting more barren.Mods don't seem to be so vigilant in deleting non-Pokemon threads anymore, so just start talking about whatever you feel like and see how it goes.>>37174894This board is already based around a shitty franchise.
>>37174808i do. i think it would help a digimon resurgence as it deserves
>>371749151st: USM and LGPE have nothing to do against Yokai-Watch 4, they only stand because of brand recognition2nd: They "died" because they artificially haven't got a proper space to discuss their interest and have been shut down by reactionary people afraid of the teeny-tiniest competence against the bigass unbeatable emperor Pokemon, you pokenazi. I swear you are worse than the Genwunners you constantly bitch about...
>>37174921>>37174941Thanks I'm glad I'm not alone.
>>37174779lol not. moot
>>37174955With both YW3 and YW4 being much better than the last 6 years worth of Pokemon games, it's only die hard Pokemon fans who would argue that the franchise is dead.
>>37174958I also really enjoy Dragon Quest Monsters. Monster-collecting is by far my favorite genre, I accept that Pokemon will always be the most popular franchise but it's frustrating to see everything in the genre compared to it, though I understand. (Digimon came out first)
>>37174955>you pokenazi. I swear you are worse than the Genwunners you constantly bitch about...most genwunners are pokenazis though. the whole "calling anything I don't like digimon" is a genwunner meme
>>37175052But not all pokenazis are genwunners, most are, not all.
>>37174903I'll pick both.>>37174921>This board is already based around a shitty franchise.Nope. Stop trying to pretend your garbage knock off franchises are on the same level.
>>37174955>They "died" because they artificially haven't got a proper space to discuss their interestno, they died because they're shitty mediocre franchises. Stop pretending a section on a chinese macro board is going to magically revive them and fuck off to /vg/.
>>37174779>We know everything has the same core idea and that many of us enjoy indiscriminately other similar series and games and would like to have a space to share our taste without getting shut down because it's not PokemonThat exists.>>>/v/
>>37174779Nobody but 3 melvins partecipate in these threads, you wish the situation was like you described
cry harder about how your niche monster catching series.
>>37174808i do. i'm an even bigger fan of smt and digimon than pokemon.
>>37174894>shitty franchisesoh, you mean like pokemon from gen 6 on?
A board dedicated to the genre would just get flooded with mobage shit. Aren’t discussions for other monster hunting games allowed here already anyway? Or would a SMT thread get banned?
>>37175761nah, they usually get deleted unless they're "subtle"
>>37175761no, they get deleted on sight despite typically having actual discussion compared to all the unova-bashing, incineroar-bashing, and "ironic" lgpe shilling threads that are allowed to stay up.
>>37174779i never played persona. i never thought it was a monster game?
>>37175763>>37175768Well that’s fucking lame.
>>37175771persona is a spinoff of shin megami tensei, which is a long-running series of jrpgs that pokemon kind of ripped off in the first place.smt and persona revolve around collecting demons/personas to fight with, similar to catching pokemon. how you do that depends on the game. in 1 and 2, you negotiate with demons for spell cards to use in fusion (or summoning), in 3 and 4, you get them through an rng shuffle game after battles, and in 5, you negotiate directly with them to join your team. instead of an evolution system like pokemon, you get stronger demons/personas by fusing two or more of the ones you already have together.
>>37175771Not totally sure but I think SMT - what it’s a spinoff of - has more focus on monster catching than persona does.
>>37174779I agree. /mon/ seems it would be the best way to do this, and then have generals for each series(so there's always at least something up for each one) then specific threads about whatever from each of them
It won't happen. Pokemon fags are literally so autistic they get anally ravaged whenever they see another monster battling/collecting franchise being discussed.
>>37174779Discussion of anything else will just be drowned by pokemon discussion. Maybe if a single thread was allowed then threads wouldn't die immediately
>>37175209SMT and Dragon Quest Monsters are definitely not knock offs.
>>37174825Faggot detected, get out of here.
>>37174779Good luck Anon. A lot feel the same way and just ignore the people that say 'go to /v/' because we are just going to get swamped down that our threads would never see the light of day. /vp/ should be changed, otherwise the same could be said for all of this board, just go to /v/. I have had some awesome discussions on /vp/ about digimon countless times.
>>37174921I have yet to see a Temtem thread make it to page 10.
>>37174955Yokai-Watch is 100% Japanese cultural references. It'll never be big in the west because of that.
>>37176003just make some western yokais then, gosh
>>37175986Well I'm tired of ignoring dumbasses, I like what some anon said about making generals about the main franchises and having normal threads around newer and smaller ones. People would still shitposting but if we want to know about the new x-antibodies or whatever or discuss about SMT V we wouldn't have to go to shittier sites.
>>37175736lol then that's your problem, this is /vp/.
what?no, let those cucks have threads on /vg/fuck, if anything close /vp/ and give the autists here a containment thread on /vg/ too
>>37176033Talking about X-Antibodies, I just pre-ordered the black and white one. I also got the 20th Brown and Grey original Digivices. Which ones are you looking to get Anon? And are you excited about the Digimon coming to the switch?
>>37174879>/vp/ is going the way of /mlp/
>>37175986/v/ actually gets some surprisingly decent digimon threads from time to time. probably some of the comfiest threads on the board when it happens.
>>37176054I like the X pendulum better, if I can I'll get both black and white and of course I'm excited about survive, it'll surely have a bigger reception than other entries since is getting translated to all the major languages and also reminds me of devil survivor.
>>37176054i don't have the patience or attention span for a v-pet, but if i did, i'd probably end up getting white because beelko x, lordknightmon x and diablomon x are all on it.
>>37176007Well they have Merican Yokai in YW3.
>>37174779People on /vp/ are talking about Persona and Monster Crown?
>>37175986>we are just going to get swamped down that our threads would never see the light of dayso exactly what would happen on /vp/?
>>37176033>I like what some anon said about making generals about the main franchises and having normal threads around newer and smaller ones.that already existsit's called /vg/ and /v/
>>37174903>SMT Nocturne>franchiseAre you retarded?
>>37176404Yes, nocturnefags are this retarded
>>37176410Boy I can't wait for SMT Nocturne 3.Or was SMT Nocturne Strange Journey SMT Nocturne 2? Would that make the Switch game SMT Nocturne 4?Fucking hell it's like calling every Elder Scrolls game "Skyrim x".
>>37175737No. I mean like the garbage you keep trying to force on this board for no reason.
>>37176417Todd's probably going to market TESVI as Skyrim 2.
>>37174779I fear it would become like /pol/ where 90% of the discussion is amerimutt gossip, with pokefags being the mutts of /mon/.
>>37175209>knock off>SMT You don't unironically only play Pokemon games for your monster catching fix, do you?
>>37176404As if a little fuck up makes my point less valid.
>>37174779Both pedophiles and pokephiles ruined this board.>But theyre not real so its OK for me to obsess over Misty's armpit and Charizard's crotch!!!!
>>37176877>crotchI prefer to obsess over her tailhole
>>37176891Good for you faggot.
>>37176893What have I done to anger you, son of man?
>>37176900By being a pokephile and or pedophile and spreading your faggotry everywhere on this board.
>>37176495>>knock off>>SMT Yes. Unless there's a SMT board pokemon fans are begging to leech off of that I missed.
>>37176917Just hide the threads.
>>37174779>let's make /vp/ into /v/ 2.0are you retarded?
>>37176923They also steer threads that have nothing to do with it towards their unhealthy fetishes.>Want to talk about a Pokemon? Oh wait lets talk about how it makes me horny instead.>Want to talk about an anime episode? Lets obsess on a specific frame of a 10 year old girl that some people could interpret as sexy.
The problem with monster collecting games is that they are too similar and, in the end, vp will always end up talking about other franchises during the news dry season. Same thing happens to other franchises in their respective boards. A /mon/ board would mostly be a containment board for pokemon but it would allow more conversation and life so I'm all for it.
I'm ok with allowing an SMT general as long as all persona threads get banned. At least SMT deserves recognition for pioneering the genre so it could be argued Pokemon owes it "something", but Persona is just garbage and its fanbase probably one of the worst in all of gaming. I'm partial to Medarot too because the part-swapping idea is at least interesting. I liked Digimon, but it used to be the direct competitor of Pokemon so allowing it here would be blasphemy.
>>37174894>p-please let me shitty franchises leech onto the board guys!The only thing worse than a shitty franchise is a baddy bad one.
>>37177080Fair enough, though the girls in Pokemon are only 10 officially. They've clearly gone through puberty.
>>37175209>>37176920> I-It doesn't matter if you came out first! My franchise is SO popular it doesn't matter! I am- I mean Pokemon is better than all of you!Keep in mind having a board doesn't make you a chosen one, maybe Pokemon games should stop babying their audience so they can realize that. Nobody cares you're a pokefag, it's just in the sake of convenience.
>>37175209You have to be deep within retardation to even think Pokemon can compete with SMT or Dragon Quest in any aspect outside popularity.>>37177092I agree, just take a look at /pg/ in /vg/, all they do is spam "X is cute!", "I want to fuck X", "I love X" or shit like that and nothing else, it's a cesspool of autism.
>>37174808I don't, they all suck dick.
>>37174879that's just flat out dumbpeople are here EVEN when the games are bad just to shitpost
>>37177100If theyre under 18 and you find them sexually appealing in any way you are a pedophile. Doesnt matter if theyre real or not.
>>37177104Just post your shit on /v/ retard.
>>37177110>it's a cesspool of autismThat's very mean and uncalled for to autistic people. Just because someone has autism doesn't mean they're some mouthbreather pervert moron.
>>37177092> I liked Digimon, but it used to be the direct competitor of Pokemon so allowing it here would be blasphemy.Not really? It started out as a boy's tamagotchi, the mon suffix isn't anything special, since Pachimon was a thing before Pokemon & Digimon. Even now Digimon is more like Soul Hackers than anything.
>>37174779Just go to /v/.It's actually a better board. They're better at funposting too.
>>37177135That's factually false, a pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to pre-pubescent kids. Officially 13 or lower.Almost all men are attracted to females that have fully gone through puberty, legal or not.
>>37177191The definition of a pedophile is an adult who is sexually interested in a child. You are a child from ages 0-17. Hitting puberty doesnt matter as the definition of pedophilia refers to the age, not their puberty status. If you are an adult who is interested in the sexual aspect of a child then you are a fucking pedophile.
>>37177183Oh so that level 5 game attack of the Friday monsters was based on Pachimon, I didn't know the actual name of those cards.
a /mon/ board could consist of 10% generals for different series & 90% pokemon/v/ is a fine place for it because few monster games are full blown franchises. /vp/ was created because Pokemon was a cancer in /v/, /a/, and /toy/
>>37177225Sorry senpai, but that's legally incorrect. And in most countries in the world, the legal age of consent is more around 14 or 15.>Pedophilia (alternatively spelled paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12, criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.
>>37174779>>37174808All the "monster collection" games except Pokemon suck dickPokemon isn't perfect, but the foundation for greatness is already there, and the formula for fun already has been carried out if you're willing to shut off your brain for the most intricate details only nerdy decades-long fans will notice or care about.
>>37177225Not them, but in the USA a child is a minor but a minor isn't necessarily a child. Children as a legal definition are up to 13 years of age; from 14 to 17 they are referred to as "juveniles". I get the point you're making, but making ignorant and false statements to support your view helps no one.
>>37174860>If you want to discuss other shit fuck off to /vg/
>>37174779>>37174847Let’s discuss the greatest monster collecting/raising game series, Jade Cocoon
>>37177268Different countries have different ages of consent. Besides even if you were right the girls in Pokemon are still 10 years old who at the very most have started the beginning phases of puberty as you just quoted. Regardless the people who get boners from these girls are still fucking pedophiles.
>>37174903Persona is weeb shit and Shin Megami Tensei is not as good as internet warriors would have one believe.And what does Persona even have to do with the topic at hand, anywayFuck off
>>37174915*SMT could take a thing or 2 from Pokemon
>>37177287Yup. That's the idea.
>>37177289Never heard of that actuallyNow is your chance to redpill if you aren't purely shitposting
>>37177290Men are wired to look for signs of fertility. Hips and boobs are clear signifiers, and men will go for anything that has them. Basically all Pokegirls have those, meaning they've hit puberty. Their bodies do not look like those of a 10 year old, doesn't matter what age GF wants to slap on them.
>>37177110>You have to be deep within retardation to even think Pokemon can compete with SMT or Dragon Quest in any aspect outside popularity.Well it isn't tied down by years of JRPG tradition, which includes barren and unoriginal movesetsIt also actually is about monsters fighting monsters, straight upAnd not even lastly, its monster designs are varied and distinct and unique; prior to Gen V, the quality of those designs had an appeal unlike any otherPokemon isn't good because it's popular, it's popular because it's good
>>37177303I’m partially shit posting, I do quite like the series but it’s been dead for almost 2 decades. The first game is like a cross between pokemon and a traditional jrpg it’s very story focused there are lots of monsters to find and capture and the merging system is neat a con is that it’s short. Just look at some videos of both games. If you’re a fan of the genre you’ll probably get some enjoyment out of them
>>37175052> the whole "calling anything I don't like digimon" is a genwunner memeYou see people call Pokemon like Blastoise, Rhydon, Jigglypuff, Hitmonlee and many others "Digimon" that I feel as though Pokemon fans don't actually know what a fucking Digimon looks like.
>>37177316Theyre still 10. Stop trying to justify these mentally ill fucks.
>>37177263>he thinks other series will get even 10% discussion
>>37177339With a combined total they'd be lucky to hit 2%.
>>37177328There's gonna be retards in every batch. Digimon means overdesigned, humanoid and/or cybernetic. Too many pointless bits tacked on, literal humans, cybernetic implants.
>>37177331If I draw a girl with birthing hips and cow-tits, but label her 8 years old, are you a pedophile if you find it sexually attractive?
>>37177328Blastoise is a bad design, but true, none of those look like Digimon.Hitmonlee is pretty Pokemon, though bogged down by its clear anthropomorphism.
>>37175215> no, they died because they're shitty mediocre franchises.They aren't dead, and considering something as horrendous as LGPE can sell millions say Pokenazis are willing to turn a blind eye as long as it has Pokemon on a title. Can you really argue a polished 3DS title with a higher price, $50 Mew, frame problems and less content than a game on a cheaper console A YEAR BEFORE can compare to the leap YW3 took to YW4? Or hell, Cyber Sleuth to Hacker's Memory? Quality is an irrelevant thing when it comes to Pokemon because underage brats like you will buy anything that has it on the box, I honestly wonder how anyone thinks yearly releases is dead though, when your cheap as dirt franchise does the same.
>>37177348In that case it's probably a genetic experiment, which wouldn't quite be human.
>>37175215> They're dead because they're bad!!> Actually they have yearly releases and saleswise are pretty alright> THEY DEADY DEAD BECAUSE THEY'RE BADDY BAD!It's okay, they're dead see? All gone! Don't cry!
>>37177353Don’t care virgin
>>37174779>/mon/ is as fucking necessary as everNo it's not. This board is one of the more active ones on the entire website. Why would you add more garbage into it?
>>37177362> Don't careYou cared enough to throw a tantrum over your superiority complex, kinda too late to play it off.
>>37177367SEETHING incel manbaby
>>37177370>>37177372Still going through the tantrum I guess, Considering Pokemon has to add moves like Splishy Splashy and Baddy Bad, I'm pretty sure their games are made for literal manbabies, No surprise.
>>37177380It's supposed to be a thing to get girls into the games, they like it when their cute Pokemon can beat the crap out of everything with silly-sounding moves instead of having to use "ugly" Pokemon for boys.
>>37177360Well, what Pokemon does is almost that, just a bit more subtle.
>>37177384> It's childish and goofy because it's for girlsI'm pretty goddamn sure LGPE's target audience is anything but girls.
>>37177399It's a game for Everyone.Old, young, boys, girls, casual, hardcore, even those who've never played a videogame in their life.
>>37177400> It's a game for everyoneEvery Pokemon game can technically fall into that line, even the hardest titles are made new-player friendly. It panders to very young kids, probably boys and girls sure but anyone above 14 is just there for the ride, Master Trainers feel like an after thought as there is no fun exploration or using Pokemon you like as much as mirror matches that give you nothing in return, Hell, even if you want the Grand Master title (Again, does nothing.) You need a GO account to grind in too and $50 for Mew. It's not really a game for everyone as much as it is a game for kids that everyone can play.
>>37177395Left isn't Asian though and May only has buds while Dawn is flatAnd pic related acts like having wider hips than shoulders or waist isn't a fundamental aspect of female anatomy
>>37177384Nishida has basically been the designer who makes Pokemon for girls
>>37177348The girls in Pokemon aren't even drawn as adults. They aren't even drawn as teenagers. Theyre drawn as kids. Maybe slightly older than 10, but still drawn as children.
>>37177417What do you mean? Yes, all women who went through puberty have hips significantly wider than their waist. May and Dawn clearly portrait this feature. Their boobs aren't very large, granted. But large breasts are rare in the Pokemon world anyway, even among adults. Besides, they're a secondary sexual characteristic, hips are a primary and universally seen as sexually attractive through all cultures on earth.
>>37177442See:>>37177395That's not what kids look like in reality, they're drawn as teens.
>>37177343>Digimon means overdesigned, humanoid and/or cybernetic.no, it means "pokemon i don't like."
>>37177467Only for idiots.
>>37177444I said females, not exclusively adult femalesand it doesn't matter what body parts are fetishized
>>37177474idiots are the only people who compare pokemon to digimon at all. they don't look similar, they have totally different design philosophies, it's just a lazy cliche people use so they don't have to articulate why they don't like a design.
>>37177343> Digimon means overdesigned, humanoid and/or cybernetic.Not really, that description only holds up for about 1/5th of Digimon, it's no different than someone who hasn't seen Pokemon in years seeing Complete Zygarde, Mega Rayquaza or Dusk Mane Necrozma and saying how all of the new Pokemon look like Tryhard Yugioh Monsters, the more complicated designs are saved for the strongest and over the top forms, while the majority of the designs are simplistic, the only problem with Digimon is that they've done this much longer than Pokemon.
>>37177479>I said females, not exclusively adult femalesThen you're wrong. The broad hips in girls and broad shoulders in boys are formed during puberty.>and it doesn't matter what body parts are fetishizedInterest in primary or secondary sexual characteristics is not fetishzation.
>>37177481Or simply memetics, a bunch of empty words they throw around without actually caring why.
>>37177481If a Pokemon moves away from the Pokemon design philosophy and towards overdesign, humanoids, or cybernetics, it's clearly more Digimon like than most Pokemon.
>>37177494While I'm not super familiar with Digimon, all lists of Digimon I can find have an overwhelming amount of overdesigned/humanoid/cybernetic mons, so I doubt your 1/5 claim.
>>37177505No, it's just overdesigned and pokenazis don't know how an actual overdesigned digimon is like, see pic related.
>>37177522Different anon but im gonna keep posting digimon with an appropriate level of design
>>37174779We compare/contrast others to Pokémon all the time which is all we really need since the player base is much smaller for the rest.Your own argument acknowledges we don't need this because any of the overlap between player bases you mention tells us that the actual player base who would need this is even smaller than the sales numbers tell us.Making it pointless to have a genre specific board since, again, those of us who are interested in any of the other games in the genre are already comparing them to Pokémon.
And now a simpler design that could easily pass as a gen 2 pokemon.
>>37177535All the X forms look crazy ya cherry picker
>>37177535Yes, obviously it's not literally a Digimon if it's overdesigned.>>37177541Be my guest, but that doesn't change the average Digimon. How about you post some evolved Digimon with appropriate levels of design? The unevolved ones are all pretty simple.
I'd love to see threads about other mon games as I'm a big fan of Digimon and Fossil Fighters, but I think a /mon/ general would be an issue.It'd be like having a Care Bears general on /mlp/. Sure, you'd get ignored on /co/, but it wouldn't really fly in /mlp/ either, even though the growth of the community and general interest has hit a plateau.
>>37177547Survive sounds like its gonna be dope
>>37177522Again, that pretty much applies to the majority of late stages, there is also what you would consider overdesigned, like something like Palkia overdesigned but just your average space dragon to another person. Pic related would be a Digimon some would say could get a bit of a tone down but I wouldn't say it's anywhere near as bad as the late ones.
>>37177547Survive news when?
>>37177557Not all, Dracomon X looks like any other Greymon/Tyrannomon/Veedramon Digimon, except a child.
>>37177566Pokemon are supposed to be actual animals that are part of an ecosystem, so it's unfitting for them to have nonsenstical attachments and patterns everywhere, let alone cybernetic implants.
>>37177495>Then you're wrong. The broad hips in girls and broad shoulders in boys are formed during puberty.I found no evidence to suggest that that they don't already have rudimentary size differences regardless of how puberty changes things>Interest in primary or secondary sexual characteristics is not fetishzation.In a broad sense it is.
>>37177547It's got Digimon literally written on its face
>>37177566Most early digimon have relatively clean designs compared to later characters. Heck, even relatively recent digimon are simple to draw. Sunflowmon, Lilamon, Gaogamon and Dorulumon come to mind.
>>37177576Tricera X is my favorite boi
>>37177581More natural body decals would be nice. If anything Pokemon are too under designed.
>>37177557My point was them not knowing what the fuck the say calling regular metalgarurumon overdesigned and implying things like zekrom or dialga fall under that same description too.
>>37177581That's the thing, that's the majority of Pokemon, and even in the beginning you could argue against that with Pokemon like Mr.Mime and Magnemite, or Pokemon that aren't even based on animals or are artifical, like Type:Null or Deoxys, You could argue that Digimon like >>37177557 and >>37177547 fit that critera more than a decent amount of Pokemon. There's also the fact Digimon aren't just wild animals either.
Guys where's a good website to discuss about digimon?
>>37177602If people think MetalGaruru is overdesigned they haven't seen half of it haha
>>37177581Jynx, mangnemite, cryogonal, klingklang, Machamp...
>>37177505>If a Pokemon moves away from the Pokemon design philosophythis has literally never happened. newer pokemon tend to be a little more detailed than older ones, but they still don't look out-of-place.>overdesignanother cliche that people use to get out of explaining why they don't like something.>humanoidshate to break it to you, but humanoids have been part of the pokemon aesthetic from day one. there's also nothing inherently wrong with humanoid monsters, they've always been a recurring motif in fiction.
>>37177615Forgot pic hehe
>>37177535i really like diablomon x's design, but the reference book art doesn't really do it any favors. i like the concept art better.
>>37177615Some people think Gabumon is already overdesigned, at least compared to basic staged Pokemon like Charmander and Piplup
>>37177615Oh they do, better not show them the old artwork of metalgarurumon x just in case they suffer an aneurysm.
>>37177610I dk honestly im hoping for a boost the the /vg/ board when survive comes out.besides there, with the will i guess
>>37177610there's a nice general thread on /vg/ that could use some more activity. there's also withthewill, they're a great source for news.
>>37177630Charmander eats a huge bag of dicks compared to Gabo.
>>37177630Its called personality, baby
Who did it better
>>37177646I wasn't disagreeing with you, Infact I have the same sentiments about Ludomon. It looks like an over-the-top armored mecha digimon and whatnot but it's actually a seemingly shy animal Digimon with a simple design wearing tons of armor.
>>37177587>I found no evidence to suggest that that they don't already have rudimentary size differences regardless of how puberty changes thingsFind an image of a prepubescent girl with wide hips.>In a broad sense it is.A fetish is a sexual interest in objects or bodyparts not associated with sex.
>>37177659Phonepostin sry lol
>>37174779This isn't terrible bait, but because a lot of vpers are going to fall for it, let's break it down./vp/ got the board it did because Pokemon was too big to be contained. Just because [your mon franchise] isn't relevant enough to have a /vg/ board doesn't mean you'll get your own.I mean argue for it if you want, more power to you, but don't expect it to actually work.
>>37177642WTW is good and all but I'd rather create a /mon/ board from scratch.
>>37177593>SunflowmonOkay.>LilamonBasically human, frills everywhere, pointless details.>GaogamonStar on forehead, gloves, bandages.. back things?>DorulumonSpikes, drills, a forehead protector, fire patterns.
>>37177596Needs more spikes..
>>37177600Strongly disagree.>>37177608>>37177617Both of you list a bunch of the least liked designs.
>>37177593they're still making those types of designs even now.
All said...I'll defend Deputymon til the day I die. This is solid monster design. Wish Pokemon didn't chimp out on guns but what can I do
>>37177620>this has literally never happened. newer pokemon tend to be a little more detailed than older ones, but they still don't look out-of-place.It's not black and white, some Pokemon stay closer to the original concept than others.>another cliche that people use to get out of explaining why they don't like something.Some people maybe, but it can be a very legit criticism.>hate to break it to you, but humanoids have been part of the pokemon aesthetic from day one.Correct, but most people don't like them. Mr. Mime and Jynx for example, are disliked by the majority.
>>37177713Same for Gundramon.Damn, I love Gundramon
>>37177630Too many focal points.
>>37177719Perfect, my eyes are bleeding profusely.
>>37177723I want the peyote the designer smoked when they designed this 'Mon. It's absolutely incredible
>>37177722>Some people maybe, but it can be a very legit criticism.i have literally never seen it used as anything other than a throwaway buzzword.
>>37177723Is that real? I love it.
>>37177674>Don't like an idea>B-baitNo one will force you to read about franchises you don't care or like, as I said you could have general threads like /vg/ but with a more specific genre (the same as /m/ which is not called /eva/, /gunpla/, /voltron/ or whatever). Different and separate generals for the games, tcg's and series of each brand and regular threads for everything else like noob and amateur game designers showing their concepts an demos.
>>37177707Yet they exist.
>>37177752You've never seen a Pokemon with too much stuff and patterns tacked on?
>>37177663>Find an image of a prepubescent girl with wide hips.https://www.girlguides.ca/WEB/images/ggc-national/interface/225x300-image9.jpgFind me an article which says they don't have *proportionally* bigger hips from a young age>A fetish is a sexual interest in objects or bodyparts not associated with sex.A fetish is a particular interest.
>>37174847I just want a new fucking Monster Rancher game. Is that too much to fuckin' ask for?!
>>37177776Everyone makes mistakes.
>>37177753yes, it's realhttps://wikimon.net/Gundramon
>>37177753not only is he real, he's also in a "group" (the three musketeers) with the ultimate waifumon, beelstarmon.
>>37177783That girl is basically a plank anon.>Find me an article which says they don't have *proportionally* bigger hips from a young ageWell, even if there is a slight difference, it's not remotely as big as in Pokemon girls.>A fetish is a particular interest.Colloquially maybe, but not medically.
>>37177785Monster Breeder, a cross between digimon v-pet and the kaiju vmu with monster rancher 2, I wanted this for the Dreamcast and the closest we got was Monster Rancher DS since it was developed by the same people but lost a big chunk of it's identity by doing so. I think it's a loss comparable to the never realized Pokemon 64 RPG.
>>37177824>That girl is basically a plank anon.Regardless, if you pay attention, you can see that her hips are ever so slighlty wider than her waist and torso, which was my point all along, not that the hips are objectively "large" or "big" even before puberty---just proportionally and relatively.>Well, even if there is a slight difference, it's not remotely as big as in Pokemon girls.Neither are their eyes. Nor their thighs and calves. But everything gets exaggerated in anime, so your point collapses.>ColloquiallyYes.
>>37177785Forgot the pic related.
>>37177855Well, it's looking like the least shit not-Pokemon I've seen yet.Post a couple of the best designs for us to judge.
>>37177854>Regardless, if you pay attention, you can see that her hips are ever so slighlty wider than her waist and torso, which was my point all along, not that the hips are objectively "large" or "big" even before puberty---just proportionally and relatively.Could be a coincidence, could be her clothing, it doesn't prove any point regardless, she doesn't have a body like the Pokegirls.>Neither are their eyes. Nor their thighs and calves. But everything gets exaggerated in anime, so your point collapses.Those are stylistic choices, actual children with child like bodies exist in the Pokemon universe.
>>37177877>it doesn't prove any pointYou wanted a picture that demonstrates my point about girls having proportionally wider hips, which was provided>she doesn't have a body like the PokegirlsFor reason I've explained.You're never going to get it, so I'm done talking about this.
>>37177864The vmu monster supposedly worked like a digimon in given favorable conditions it could have taken over both markets since the Dreamcast was the beefiest system at the time and the vmu were economical, sold separately and had better technology than the digivice, Tamagotchi etc.
>>37177907You're drawing this into a petty argument. Pokegirls look like teenagers, not actual 10 year olds. Done too.
>>37177864Keep in mind that this was an unreleased game in alpha stages and there aren't many designs or at least many worth mentioning.
>>37177940I didn't read closely and thought it was this "Monster Rancher"
>>37177864Not much to see since it was cancelled and in alpha stage and the aren't many monsters to show but it definitely looked promising.
>>37177947I'm not going to pretend as if all the monsters were perfect, still they have some unusual charm.
>>37177949Looks like Phantasy Star Online.>>37177963>pic relatedNot bad, a bit worrying, but not bad
>>37177674Pokemon was too big to be contained but not big enough to fill an entire board. /vp/ has turned to utter shit. The only thing keeping this place alive when we have no news is disgusting furfaggotry and pedophilia. And when we do have news the only thing keeping this place alive is fake leaks.
If the board is about mon collectan/raisan/battlan games/anime/whatever, Pokémon is so big that it would overshadow everything else on the board, but the genre is too small to make a viable board without it. If you style the board more generically, like "/mon/ - Monsters" it will probably attract furries, and 4chan can't have that because the culture is still stuck in the 2003 Something Awful "FURRYS are BAD because they're RAINBOWFAGGOTS" mindset.
>>37178254/mcg/ Monster Collecting Games
>>37177767>I said you could have general threads like /vg/Then go to /vg/.
>>37174847But how many of these are even relevant enough?
>>37178280Depends on what /vp/ thinks relevant means, something like RDR2 can be a fad and sales comparisonwise is useless since everything is a flop comparison wise, even huge hitting titles won't make the difference when games make roughly the same sales each year.
>>37174955Did you forget that 4chan(nel) is not the only place on the internet to discuss vidya games?
oh shit we talking medabots? just finished metabee ver, wish there were translations for the gb games
>>37179115We could be pokenazis prefer to act like early 2000s school kids with "muh pokeymanz is more good because is popular". I think there was a translation project going on of Medarot 1 by the same people who did the telefang 1 and 2 English patch and now Spaceworld so remain sit and don't expect to much, Nintendo should've at least ported the classic collection if they released both Metabee and Rokusho for the Wii U eShop...
>>37179249oh nooooo, your genwars and starterwars threads might have to compete with actual discussions! how horrible!
>>37179288>oh nooooo, your genwars and starterwars threads might have to compete with actual discussions!sooooo what /v/ already is?
>>37179249I'm not a parrot, read the whole damn thread to see why a /ctg/ (collect and training/taming games) board is big enough to be it's own board and a far less excluyent logical step forward from /vp/, which each dry season is filled to the brim with pics of retards cumming/pissing on their plushies, attention whoring fake leaks and more recently with Smash not having certain Pokemon and LGPE is turning into huge shit-tornado with barely any option to have regular discussions.
>>37179293/ctg/ is a distinct enough genre and pop culture phenomenon to have it's own board. Since yesterday none of you opposers has come up with a thoughtful counterpoint, you just spamming "go to /v/ /vg/ or /m/" is not making an argument and we won't give up so easily even less so with schoolyard level bullying politics.
>>37178879Did you forget Pokemon isn't the center of the universe and maybe, just maybe, people prefer the anon format instead of handing over more private data about themselves in a forum or site where you have to register?
*yawn* spoken like true incels, not even worth the (You)s
>>37179301>board is big enough to be it's own boardAn /rpg/ board is also big enough to be its own board. Doesn't mean that it should happen.>which each dry seasonThere is no "dry season." Go look at ACTUAL inactive boards you retard.>>37179321>/ctg/ is a distinct enough genre and pop culture phenomenonPokemon is a distinct enough franchise and pop culture phenomenon to have its own board. Which it does. Now fuck off back to /v/ with your lesser irrelevant franchises.
>>37179332/v/ is right next door anon
>>37179321>you just spamming "go to /v/ /vg/ or /m/" is not making an argumentIt is when you have yet to come up with an actual reason why you can't just go to /v/ or /vg/ instead of ruining the entire point of /vp/.
>>37179353Maybe the point of /vp/ has changed. Keep denying that things are getting out of hand when all you will be able to browse are genwars, starterwars, "here's why you are wrong about daring to like x" posts, countless crystal clear and kantoonions bs discussions, pokephilia and other waifu threads. Oh wait, that's already happening...
>>37179511>Maybe the point of /vp/ has changedBut it hasn't. It was made as containment and it still is containment. Every board has its share of repetitive bullshit. No one cares.
>>37179522Sorry, I forgot pokenazis hate change and love eating repetitive shit. Cultural differences...
>>37179522well, /vp/ was created out of necessity so i'm just gonna keep discussing other monster collecting games when I feel like it and hope every one else does the same
>>37179536Some anon has posted digimon as critique of fake leaks, the threads was doing fine and was on the top page, mysteriously it has disappeared, you tell me how and when do we get to discuss about other Mon series if even benign and pokey threads like that get shut.
Defend this shit, it's not even clever trolling or funny, I just feel sorry for anyone who stills thinks this board is not on /mlp/ levels of shame.
>>37179616Normie repellant. We need more of those Bui shitposting walls when the leaks season starts to keep the reddit and resetera faggots out.
>>37179650In other words selfish entitlement fuel.
>>37179536>so i'm just gonna keep discussing other monster collecting games when I feel like itYou're free to do that. On /v/.
>>37179697Clean your territorial pissings, you baddy bad dog.
>>37174825Yeah, OP! Let us keep our stagnant board filled with furfaggotry, pokegirl and genwar threads!Fuck other monster raising games even though those threads always offer quality posting before they're inevitably pruned by overzealous jannies.
>>37179740Yeah! Let's rejoice in eating shit and denying progress and facts even if by doing so we will eventually sink this decade-lasting ship!!! Afterall that is what sane Pokemon fans do around here.
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