redditors please leave
>genwun shit everywhere>minimap doesn't match rest of screen
>>37168861there's no kickstand on that bike how is it standing up?
Can we please ban this image from 4chan?Pretty please?
>>37168894And any and all variants of OOOOOOOOOOOOOOTNAK
>>37168867>Genwun>Clearly doesn’t know that Anime isn’t canon and Ho-Oh is Gen 2 which makes it shitGTFO and go commit spermicide
>>37168993what are you even attempting
>>37168861They really are pushing the 3ds to its limits huh
>>37168867>>genwun shit everywhereso?
What is this?
>>37169423BOTW screenshot with Pokemon stuff copypasted over it?
>>37168861ok this is epic
>>37169423Ben Shapiro's new Pokemon fangame, powered by Unreal Engine 4
>>37169899Why hasn't that snivelling little freak been murdered yet
>>37168861BotW, but with Korok seeds being rare Pokemon would be unironically based. Pokemon has already completely solved the largest issue of open world games, the lack of rewarding activity in the open world. You can bet your ass normies and genwunners would spend hundreds of hours to get their favourite genwun mon.
>>37169941>libAs if Enjoy the gulags
>>37168861>open world meme>kanto panderingyikes. cringe.
>>37168861Never ever because you bought LGPE, fucking redditor, piece of shit.
>>37170010Only redditors want an Open World Sandbox™ Pokémon game
>>37170039And the redditors are the ones who bought LGPE
>>37170039Stop being a contrarian. It would be awesome and exactly the kind of new lifeblood this series needs. Do you still want Pokemon to be a turn-based RPG, which barely differs from the original Red and Blue mechanically, in ten? You have to start making changes somewhere, sometime. So why not now, when Nintendo has proven they can make a good open world game? The only complaints I ever hear about Breath of the Wild are "no good dungeons/temples" and "nothing to do except collect irrelevant collectibles". The latter is the entire point of Pokemon and the first one isn't much of a problem because Pokemon never had challenging dungeons anyways.
>>37170079>Do you still want Pokemon to be a turn-based RPG, which barely differs from the original Red and Blue mechanicallyYesThere's an old adage. "don't break what isn't broken".
>>37170079Open worlds are a tumour in the cancer that is killing gaming
>>37170079Did you buy LGPE?
>>37170112No, the last Pokemon games I played were XY.
>>37170079Open world is a meme to shill to the lowest common denominator - that it took Zelda team to show the world how to make one is telling (and even then, its STILL a bit empty with fuck all to do). And you think Game Freak could pull it off? Did you get shotgun trepanation recently?
>>37170113Okay, then you can request changes.
>>37170140I mean >>37170120
>>37170126Of course Game Freak couldn't pull it off alone. That's why they should just bring in the Zelda team and Monolith. I mean, it doesn't have to be true open world either, but we need way more freedom in the overworld than we have right now. Pokemon is all about the exploration and adventure. What they've done with XY (and from what I've heard of, SM) was not good and not the direction I think Pokemon should take. I could forgive it in Gen 6 since it was the first game on the 3DS and they already had to put in a lot of work into the models, but GF seriously needs to step up their game now.
>>37170079>Do you still want Pokemon to be a turn-based RPGyes. why can't action rpg babbies get over the fact that turn-based games exist?>So why not now, when Nintendo has proven they can make a good open world game?but they haven't. nobody has. open world is nothing more than an excuse to make less content, copy-paste what little content there is, and distract normies with pretty graphics and the illusion of freedom.
>>37170102Improving the game isn't breaking it.
>>37170212>yes. why can't action rpg babbies get over the fact that turn-based games exist?Because turn based games are inherently more abstracted than action rpgs, which breaks immersion.
>>37170863>immersivenow explain why turn-based games shouldn't exist *without* using trite buzzwords.
>>37171534I'm not saying they shouldn't exist, just that Pokemon is at the point where it should outgrow turn base combat already. With every game you have to ask yourself "why does this exist?" For Pokemon the answer is obvious. As envisioned by the creator of the franchise himself, the purpose of the Pokemon games is exploring the world to catch and trade Pokemon. Turn based combat was a necessary abstraction 20 years ago, but it no longer is. It does not accurately represent the world of Pokemon, it never has. That is reason enought to get rid of it and replace it with something better.
>>37168861>female eeveeYou gotta let me rape her ash!
>>37171563turn-based combat is a valid system, the idea that it's something a game needs to "outgrow" is stupid.let's not pretend that game freak would do action rpg combat properly anyway. it would be ffxv-style "hold o to win" combat. is that really any better than the current system?
>>37171584No. This thread is about a BotW style Pokemon game though, which is what I'm envisioning in this argument. I'm not very confident Game Freak could pull that off, but we're at a point in time where a genuinely great open world action RPG Pokemon game is technically feasible if a developer puts in enough time and effort. I think this needs to be the next step for the Pokemon franchise and I'm convinced it will happen eventually, whether it be in five years or ten.
>>37171609why does every game have to sell out to the open world meme, though? pokemon doesn't need to be open world. it just needs better-designed regions (like sinnoh and unova), all the features they removed along with new ones, actual postgames again, less handholding, and some qol tweaks to bring it up to date with other jrpgs. that's it.
>>37171649You're right, it can do without true open world freedom and some linearity isn't wrong. But if you want Pokemon roaming the overworld of the game map in a true 3D style, with none of the bastardization Let's Go gives us, the areas have to be absolutely massive.
>>37171692idk, i wouldn't mind a smaller region that's densely packed with content. someone in another thread mentioned the idea of a region that takes place entirely in a city like NYC, with each gym being in a different borough. i think that would be cool as a change of pace.
>>37171979How would you catch Pokemon? Just have the urban area Pokemon hang out in houses?
>there's people itt right now who are unironically against open world gamesimagine having such bad taste
>>37168861What's the fucking excuse at this point? Xenoblade 2 already exists on Switch and it's not even a big franchise. Giant world, monsters running around everywhere.
>>37168861this highlights the problems of a really detailed environment on a Pokemon game. Pokemon would look out of place having low detail on a highly detailed environment, but increasing the detail on the pokemon more would make them look like the abominations in the upcoming detective pikachu movie
>>37173564i don't understand this site as a whole's hatred of open world. isn't the whole fucking point of a pokemon game to explore and find pokemon?
>>37173699Why? Lynels and all the other enemies in BotW look just fine, none of them are any more realistic looking than Pokemon. All I'm hearing are excuses, excuses, excuses. >>37173709>>37173564I don't honestly don't get it either.
>>37168877Asking the right questions
>>37173764dislike =! hatredbut I understand. You have to make those kinds of arguments because you wouldn;t stand a chance without them
>>37173709the site doesn't hate open world, it's just that people in this website acknowledge the fact that its implementation would be unrealistic>>37173764BoTW can afford to do that because it doesn't need to program 800+ Pokemon with drastically different models. late game enemy models are just reskins of early game enemies, and the programming for their behavior is just sped up. You can't slap a rhydon skin on a rattata.
>>37173564open world is popular now4chan is contrarian and hates popular things do the math
>>37170079>Do you still want Pokemon to be a turn-based RPGNot the person you replied to, but I don't trust GF to make a good open world Pokemon game, that's my issue.
>>37170271Improving something implies that there is something that needs to be fixed or improved.Perfection is by definition un-improvable.
>>37175564Pokemon is far from perfection.
>>37168861(insert the soul/soulless meme here)
>>37173564The vast majority of open world games are shit because they put more focus on the breadth of content rather than the depth. Development becomes exponentially more difficult the more content you have, and very few developers can manage it without shitting up the combat, writing, balance, or even the basic stability of the game. Yeah, you can explore 500 caves in Skyrim, but there's no fucking point when you know you're just going to go in a loop, fight some draugr along the way, and pull a lever that moves literal tons of stone so you never have to explore a dungeon. You have no place to talk about bad taste when open world games are by and large the most braindead games in the industry.
>>37170079How the fuck would that even be a Pokemon game? You can just go play the Xenos and then kys, redditor
You can still do turn based battles with an expansive world. Not necessarily like other open world games that are humongous. Dragon Quest still has turn based tho that game could stand to reduce the size. Lot of empty space.
>>37170079The amount of salt you mined with an objectively correct opinion is astounding. Niggers literally pretending like the majority of the best games ever released aren't open world and better for it. Probably the same people who think video games are art.
>>37170079This post is unironically 100% right.>>37170102Guess we should all still be playing pong then right?
>>37170079>which barely differs from the original Red and Blue mechanicallyConfirmed no clue what they're talking aboutWe're not talking one or two tweaks, retard
>>37176699Yeah, having pokemon out in the open world but keeping the turn based battle with wild encounters would be perfect
>>37171609BotW took four years to make and had a team of 300 devs. An AAA Pokemon game done in the same sort of engine would be inordinately more complex. Unless it's already been in development for several years, you won't even hear about it until well into the life cycle of the Switch's successor.
>>37173062the cyber sleuth games had wild digimon encounters in places like subway stations, power plants, an office building, etc. that's a start. i could see wild pokemon also leaping out of alleyways, roaming around in public parks and run-down neighborhoods, and such.
>>37170079>imagine being this retard
>>37178023>i could see wild pokemon also leaping out of alleyways, roaming around in public parks and run-down neighborhoods, and such.Great. I can just imagine receiving a quest to deal with the local feral meowth colony.
>>37176004try having an argument when you've played another open world game that's not shitrym. It's like saying all of pokemon is shit because let's go is shit.
>>37177957pokemon 2019 is in development since XY
>>37178174so THAT's why XY, ORAS and SM were unfinished!
>>37170079>It would be awesome and exactly the kind of new lifeblood this series needs.Not really. Open worlds are overrated and they're honestly a lazy way to "rejuvenate" a franchise.
People don't need BotW maps. They just want something that doesn't look so damn cheap and low effort. The games look like something made by a tiny niche developer when it's one of the biggest IPs in gaming.
>>37170079I just want my turn based experience to be perfected first. There is so much they can do.Also Gamefreak isn't Nintendo senpai. Annual and open world don't go well together.
>>37170151Pokémon is effectively a yearly. If it is big enough for Gamefreak to need help it's too big to be done every 1.34 years and even every 3 years.So what you just want them to make one bloated experience every four to five years instead of focusing on real content?
>>37170863Not every game needs immersion.
>>37178532Pokemon does. It's the whole point of Pokemon.
>>37168861still waiting for op to tell me how to unlock snorlax and the bicycle
>>37178615You unironically get the bike by completing the Champions' Ballad DLC.