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= NEWS =
>TWT Tournament Schedule
https://tekkenworldtour.com/schedule/
>Patch 2.20
http://www.avoidingthepuddle.com/news/2019/2/18/tekken-7-version-220-update-notice.html
>Patch 2.30
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/tekken/news/tekken-7-celebrates-its-2nd-anniversary-free-update
>Season 3 Announced
http://www.avoidingthepuddle.com/news/2019/8/4/season-3-of-tekken-7-announced-with-new-characters-and-free.html

= BASIC INFORMATION =
>/tekgen/ Information Compilation and Character Guides
https://pastebin.com/A7eYchVU
>Notation
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/legend.php
>Fergus' character overviews
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/
>Frame data for every character
http://rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/
>Top 15 moves for all characters
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/


= TUTORIAL VIDEOS FOR NEW PLAYERS =
>How to Approach 3D Fighting Games
https://youtu.be/p7Ar-RctqyU
> Learn Tekken 7 in a reasonable and appropriate order
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVUxFFfCtDtkd3n0J8taq-MknCWaP6naW
Anon's transcript: https://pastebin.com/SpvKC7j2
>Korean Backdash Cancel (KBD)
https://youtu.be/gLp3Y0PdV94
https://shoryuken.com/2017/02/17/this-is-the-year-you-will-learn-how-to-perform-tekkens-korean-backdash/
>Button Buffering
https://youtu.be/38iJWsjc_w8
>Options at the wall
https://youtu.be/2SW7kCmA23o
>Low parrying
https://youtu.be/SF2wBESs01U
>Oki/Tech Trap
https://youtu.be/LYqbvQljTw0
>Throw Breaking
https://youtu.be/m4em9HzrwFI
>Wavedash
https://youtu.be/QDycsZYw56o
>Wavedash/Backdash on pad
https://youtu.be/fU5Ji23k4LU
>Combo video playlist for each character
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n
>Dealing With Strings
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uSlTGr0XFkRS3q4uSMUecGcMbXOQa3hLJ46GqFHk3HI/edit
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bryan is the only genuinely defensive character
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Looks like it's Anna and Lee for me. Thanks boys.
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Are Kazuya mains inherently hi-test?
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>>262485146
Kazuya mains are niggers, so yes they are
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>>262485132
>anna
Lmao, have fun
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>>262484560
https://youtu.be/X_rSBupnDew?t=380
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>>262485052
>kazuya is defensive
lmfaooo
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>>262485345
>sidesteps first electric
>doesn't do anything because it recovers too fast
>figures his opponent is an autist so ducks and punishes the second one on a read
>next round keeps ducking and gets hit by mids
>boa mashes jabs into db4>df2 and gets an easy ch df2 into electric
yeah he's defensive alright
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>>262485025
I just picked up Lei, what am I in for?
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>>262485740
Don't worry, now you have good optionselect when you lose.
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>>262484979
So how do we deal with them Noctis?
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Is there any other character that flies under the radar for robbery and dishonesty as much as Kazuya?
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>>262485840
Yes, yours
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>tekgen back on track calling out kazuniggers
It's about time
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfKY-U5Ts5I
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Damn you all are hilarious, but keep making excuses.
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>>262485740
no ground stances included
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Kazuya is literally a fucking braindead chimps character. If you have the execution for it, the optimal way to play him is to never fucking stop mashing. Just mash electrics into wavedash for your auto pressure into braindead mix up. Opponent is plus? Mash df2 like the retard you are, it's only -12 who gives a fuck? Mash b1+2 too while you're at it. Mash ws4 into electrics or into fucking anything really. Never fucking stop mashing. God knows you'll easily take off as much life as you lost and more if you get a single hit in
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>>262486954
Show us you doing ten electrics in a row
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>it takes a few practice mode sessions to learn how to do therefore it isn't aggressive
delusional s tier right here
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>>262486995
I'll show you a fucking noose you nigger
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>>262485146
Whining is the most lowtest bitch made shit you can do, truly high test people accept shit as it is and move on.
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Hi guys I havent played the game since season 2 released am I welcome back
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>>262487262
eternally bootyblasted
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>>262485740
just mash
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>>262487618
there is literally no way to play this game and not seethe
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>>262487404
if you are an evo tourist no fuck off
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>>262487618
All me lmao
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>>262488008
nope just had a random urge to get back into fighting games
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This blue ranked Devil Jin that has his character made a clown to make it harder to spot telegraphing shits out ewgfs with every input.

Do you report obvious macroniggers?
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I realize now that execution heavy characters are for people who don't know how to play the game so they opt to grind out an advantage in the form of stronger tools at the cost of having to grind them out in the lab for 500 hours.
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>>262487618
I'm seething too!
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>he can do electrics so hes macroing
lmao electrics aren't even hard
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Future is now old man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyxy_Zv5DRE
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>>262488997
Yeah I'm sure a scrub that has no idea how anything works can just shit out electrics flawlessly whenever he feels like it.
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>>262485519
Could you remake this webm into something that isn't amateur hour so I can save it?
Thanks
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what the fuck, why are story assists allowed in online? randomly pressed L3 only to see the menu pop up

don't tell me that basic combos are also available online? is that why blue jins always play like retards and then sometimes unleash a ridiculous combo?
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>>262489230
the auto combos are literal trash. you can learn a better combo in 2 minutes
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>>262489230
fuck off evo tourist
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Steve has no lows
Julia is hard
Master Raven gets no damage from her combos
Bryan is too slow
Kazuya has no mids
Law is fine becsuse everyone who plays him is retarded
Optimal AK is df1 and d4, everything else is bad
Jin isn't that strong, just block
Noctis has like 1 frame of evasion
S2 hit Dragunov too hard, d2 is finished
Lars can't do anything
Paul is honest, so what about df2?
Miguel has no range
Asuka is a defensive character, if b3 hits you got outplayed
Nina needs buffs
Just break Marduk's tackle, it's easy
Alisa's d3 is reactable
Heihachi's db2 is hearable
Unless Lee can do everything he's not worth the effort
Hwoarang is low-tier, Speedkicks told me
Josie isn't unga
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I've been smurfing and farming all these evo tourists. so much fun bros.
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>>262489665
>Law is fine becsuse everyone who plays him is retarded
that's not wrong
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>>262489536
seethe harder bitch nigga
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>he's losing to auto combos
lmao
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>>262489230
imagine complaining about auto combos
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>>262485256
He will in season 3
Anna mains, Lars chads and Gigas bros rise up
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>>262489703
Based smurf scaring noob away!
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>go into ranked
>first match is 2 bar law
>second match is 2 bar eddy
it speaks for itself
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>>262489665
Josie isn't unga!
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>>262489665
add
Kazuya is defensive
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>>262485840
Almost all characters that have a perception of being hard can be total scumbags but get a free pass because of execution.
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any trainers to unlock items that works with current patch? fug 2k games im on another account
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>>262489665
pic related isn't underselling, but it fits right in with the rest of the delusion
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>>262492874
>lili has lots of ch launchers
lmao spotted the person who doesnt know what lili does
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>>262492712
>fug 2k games im on another account
why?
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>>262489665
>Optimal AK is df1 and d4, everything else is bad
No one says this, people were complaining that when JDCR was playing him like this even, you misunderstood the dumb meme associated with that character
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What buffs are do we want in Season 3, Katabros?

I would like ff4 so be safe and for FCdf4 to be plus on hit. Those seem like no-brainers to me. Also remove b2 from the game.
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It's official guys. I'm seething.
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Steve is the biggest gorilla in the game and the people who play him are carried by him
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>>262493584
It's ok. This is seething general.
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woah check it out guys that guy has a hot opinion on one of the best characters in the game
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>>262493564
bigger tits, bigger dick bulge, and also a wavedash
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>>262493564
ff4 being unsafe never made sense to me, but yeah those changes are the ones I want for her too.
Just make b2 -13 or something so it's not retardedly unsafe AND slow, then it's a good move.
Also fix uf3+4 not giving a full combo outside of weird angles. Either that or make it safe and KND so she gets a free ub4.
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Nig Chun, Leroy Smith
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>>262488796
Macro niggers are always so retarded that they out themselves. Had some green rank pulling of multiple chdf2 into pewgfs the other night in a lobby. Fucking faggots expect us to believe that
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>Why yes, I do main Feng. How did you know?
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Niggas sleeping on how gorilla feng is
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3000 wins yellow rank king niggers, please kill yoursleves
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>>262495096
He's gorilla but requires more buttons than other gorilla characters so there's little appeal for that sort of player
also ever since Kempo was nerfed he's no fun to use anymore either
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>>262495096
That only cause no one plays him. I'm reminded how gorilla he is every time I see one.
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Is there any main this general does NOT cry over? Gigas?
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>>262495852
if i had ever played against a gigas i would cry about him too
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https://www.twitch.tv/miirio
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>>262495764
>fought one with 3800 the other day
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>>262495096
If he wasn't so butt-ugly we'd have a dedicated poster complaining about how evasive and quick the fucker is
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>>262495852
he's the most dishonest of the cast

i dont lose to anyone faster than to gigas
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give me one reason not to play miguel
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>>262495852
We're in seethe general my dude, in a lot of ways if we complain about absolutely everyone then the game is well balanced.
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>>262496176
you're not a catholic
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so what are our thoughts on lars?
imo
>honest
>low tier
>high effort low reward
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anybody have the stats on those chikurin vs pakistan ft 10s?
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>>262496176
he will become your true waifu and basically you're forced to get a bodypillow of him and show it to your parents
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>>262495764
>green paul with 3500 wins
i don't know why some people play this game
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>>262495943
Who?
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What's Kazuya's weakness?
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>>262496272
>turbo dishonest, lars players dont block
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>>262495950
Why do they even play the game? I honestly don understand it
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>>262496364
Meh, I played against 4k Brawler Jin who always went for lows in strings and from stance.
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>>262496397
go away tourist
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>>262496432
Eliza.
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>>262496272
He should go back to Naruto and stay there.
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so do you guys enjoy the endless library of knowledge that prevents you from actually getting to the mind games of a fighting game?

just trying to figure out if i should drop this game now
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>>262496272
hes low effort low reward
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>>262496648
Yes I enjoy learning things and then obliterating my opponents with it, sorry if that's not for you.
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>>262496648
Play samsho if you don't want constant knowledge checks and just raw mindgames.
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>>262496648
If there is no knowledge or execution involved, you get stale shit like SFV.

Fighting games have three pillars; knowledge, execution and mind games. If you remove the first two, you end up with basically a game of guessing.
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>>262496648
Idk man I'm thinking it's unpleasant at this point but I'm too far down the rabbit hole.
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>>262496752
obliterating my opponents with things they dont even know about isnt fun, its like you're permanently smurfing or getting smurfed against with all of the huge knowledge holes in every single player

>>262496928
i dont mind knowledge checks, but it shouldnt impede the rest of the game imo

>>262497043
my experience 60 hours into this game is that it's 95% knowledge 5% execution, ive never once felt like i applied mindgames to my opponent or my opponent to me
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>>262497201
You only need to understand the basics of high-mid-low attacks and punishes before the mind games set in.
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>>262497201
Only if you play very short sets and go out of your way to gimmick your opponents, anyone worth their salt quickly adjusts to your gimmicks in a long set and real tekken can be played.
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>>262489105
Alternatively you could do the exact same thing on a keyboard/hitbox without taking your hand off your buttons.
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>>262496272
Obvious bait aside he's a high-risk medium-reward character in a game full of characters who don't have to play risky at all(or are getting a better reward for doing it). Combine this with how linear he is, and his shitty ch game, he isn't too great. Hopefully they address his reward on moves like db1,3 ff4,3 b4 and b1 in S3.
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>Lars is high risk
>Lars is linear
>Lars has shitty CHs
Every single time.
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>>262497201
60 games is nothing in any fighting game, you would have the exact same feeling in absolutely every fighting game because as far as anyone is concerned you haven't even learned how to breathe.

Go play windjammers, lethal league, divekick or samsho or something, because it seems like you heavily underestimate the hours required to play most fighting games.
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>>262497428
>and punishes
i.e. the huge amount of variable frame data that has little rhyme or reason, often the frame data isnt the only meaningful attribute of a move and the fact that it's all so unintuitive (very few moves really stand out on their visuals alone and blockstun duration is not easily visually apparent)

>>262497586
>anyone worth their salt
unless ive studied the specific strings of the specific character that my opponent tends to use then i have no way to "quickly adjust" to my opponent's playstyle, thats my big issue with the game
theres SO MUCH that adjusting mid match and learning as i go isn't viable
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>>262497886
You can adjust to so many strings visually just by having a basic grasp of what kinds of weaknesses usually have, strings aren't a thing you simply can't defeat unless you've specifically labbed them for hours.
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>>262497856
How isn't he those things?
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Did Lars niggers really derail the thread again
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>>262498053
>You can adjust to so many strings visually
im just gonna say i straight up can't visually identify a string unless my opponent uses it 2-3 times in a row
every single punch and kick in this game looks so similar and, unlike 2d games, i have to pay attention to what my opponent's attacks are doing to my character or else i cant even do the moves I want to do

>strings aren't a thing you simply can't defeat unless you've specifically labbed them for hours
I can just guess and pray that I'm randomly correctly choosing between back and downback but it takes a waaay longer time to actually mindfully be defending against your opponent in this game than any other ive played
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>>262496272
Most of the people bitching about him being low-tier are trash players that don't even realize what's weak about him other than what they've been told and are probably getting away with absolute murder when they play him. Just look at the Lars player in the last thread saying his punishment is shit.
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>>262498443
2-3 times isn't bad for figuring out how a string can be defeated, if you think about it the penalty for eating the full string is usually very minimal, provided you're not going to try and mash right after it into what's probably + frames, and once you've figured out you could get something as strong as a launch punish and suddenly be at the health advantage because all they've really been doing is tagging you with some high high low string for 15 damage a piece.
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Thread theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhzMvfaEc9c
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What would the Tekken roster look like if it had only honest characters?
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>>262498954
Empty.
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>>262498801
by 2-3 times i mean if they do it the 3rd or 4th time im probably going to react by that point and specifically defend against it
5 seconds later ive already forgotten what it looks like again because they all look so similar
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>>262498492
There are obvious retards but it works both ways, see >>262497856
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>>262498954
I don't know but I'll tell you one thing, it'd be fuckin boring.
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>>262498954
We'd finally see Lars in top 8
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gonna learn jin as my sub bros

t. has only ever played feng in tekken 6 and 7
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Did y'all niggas just say Hit Bock???????????????
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>>262497201
>60 hours
lmao im on 2k and still feel like im dogshit at the game
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Does anyone know a 2000 wins yellow or green rank in real life? What are they like?
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>>262496648
It's 99% good spacing and good movement bro
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>>262499773
>2000 wins yellow
What's wrong with that tho
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>>262499641
its not about being dogshit, im dogshit at every fighting game i play
the difference is that in other games 60 hours in i was more than equipped with the knowledge to actually be making constant informed decisions against my opponents, in this game i either punch and kick my opponent to death because they didnt know how to stop it or they do that to me

>>262499823
lol, not before pro play thats for sure
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>>262499974
It means you're retarded
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>>262496648
at a higher level (not top level at all say emperorish) its 99% movement nullifying gimmicks even if you dont know gimmicks. the game is about spacing and movemnet
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>>262499974
you're not actively plugging unfavorable matchups and winquitting.
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If Heihachi's second VA died, who would they have to voice him for King of Fighters All Stars?
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>>262500214
Me
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>>262500081
I guess I should have spent my first 50 hours practicing kbd instead of playing, id probably be better at the game right now lol
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>>262500357
Pick Kazuya and learn how to wave dash. You can win 84% of fights just by kbding and wavedashing in right moments.
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>>262500357
you only need like an hour to figure out a way to backdash cancel that works for you, backdashing for 20 seconds like you're knee is unnecessary for the majority of cases.
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heihachi is so much harder to play than kazuya, bros.
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>>262500089
Lol it's easy to get out of yellows without plugging in sub 500 wins. The only people with 2000 plus wins in yellow ranks are retards mashing out gimmicks
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>>262500263
You need to know Nip bro
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>>262500597
Ahem.
*crosses arms*
Masku.
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>>262500357
practicce it while playing. Kbd for sake of kbd is useless.
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>>262500596
The people mashing out gimmicks would be the first out of yellows, like anyone there has them worked out.
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>>262500357
unironically that is what i did when i started back in 2017
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>>262500762
Nah I'm talking like spamming kings alley kicks, those are the retards you see hard stuck in yellows with 3000 wins
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>>262500464
>in right moments
i.e. the 10000 move book report

>>262500495
I play a backsway character and I can still hardly backdash twice in a row, I tried armor king and within 3 minutes I was using the cheese method to easily do it multiple times in a row, should I just give up on backsway characters?

>>262500701
>practicce it while playing
i try but this again comes back to the 10000 move book report, there's no "feeling it out" in this game
everything is so stiff that there is a correct answer to the bullshit and you have to know it or suffer
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When is Jin NOT safe? What moves can I punish because this Jin player was just throwing everything out and did not give a fuck.
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>>262501162
It'll definitely make your backdashing easier if you do, but at the end of the day a backdash cancel on a sway character is just an accurate d/b input, you just have to be slightly tighter.
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>>262501501
>punishing Jin
you guys know what to do
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>>262501586
>you just have to be slightly tighter
its actually ridiculous just how much of an understatement this is
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>>262501162
korean backdashing is useless to deal against gimmicks

you really have to learn the 10000 moves, there's no way around it

your best option is to play someone like miguel or hwoarang to win without any knowledge of the game and get good ranks still
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>>262501705
?
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>>262501501
>Jin main inadvertently exposes his characters biggest weakenss
https://twitter.com/UYUDrew/status/1146245579254751234
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>>262501716
>>262501162
its really not that hard to get a kbd the normal way. its not even tight. show me the inputs of what you think actual kbd is in practice mode.
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>>262502361
the qcb method makes backdash canceling possible with an extremely imprecise input, it's way way easier
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>>262500064
>lol, not before pro play thats for sure
You can legitimately wreck a lot of the online shitters tekgen complains about by simply playing patiently and spacing yourself careful instead of mashing non-stop like a sperg to be fair
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>>262501586
>backdashing
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>>262485025
Just picked up LARS, what am I in for?
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>>262502928
https://www.twitch.tv/tekken/clip/StrongTenderSalmonTTours
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>>262503078
just dropped Lars, what am I in for?
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>>262500557
just mash until you get them to the wall and then do f4 infinite. free points
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>>262503186
>f4 infinite
redpill me
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You have been practicing your electrics, right /tekgen/?
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>>262485025
How would you go about teaching tekken to another person? Friend of mine is trying to learn Tekken and can't seem to get the hang of it. I know from personal experience how long it takes to get somewhat decent at this game. How do you go about coaching someone in tekken?
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>>262503575
>>262503575
>How would you go about teaching tekken to another person?
Beat him with Kazuya using only hellsweeps, then suck him off
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>>262503359
>Lars has bad tracking
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>>262502619
show me what you think the actual method looks like in practice mode with inputs.
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>>262503575
You'd have to be a tekken god to correctly teach someone tekken all by yourself.
You can try
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>>262503983
b b db n b b db n
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Reminder that if you don't have a pocket Kazuya, Devil Jin, or Heihachi at Fujin+ you are a fraud. Jin doesn't count.
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>>262504262
thats not what it should look like it should look like this
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>>262503253
f4 is +4 on block. Heihachi's df1,2 is a 13f wall isolating mid, mid string. And because of the wall, stepping it is really hard. Most people respect the df1 and usually don't press buttons after f4, so if you loop them, you can bully people there.
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>>262503575
Just tell him tekken is a guessing game and your job is to space yourself so that your opponents guessing game is worse than yours, he'll be champ in no time.
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>>262505060
Sorry Anon, I play the HONEST mishima
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>>262505359
I'll allow it
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>>262504101
I'm giving him all the guides and stuff for his character but I'm also trying to explain the basics to him just to get the ball rolling so he can go off and do research on his own
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>>262505474
How much of his heart is in it? I hope you're not overloading him with material and burning him out with the fact tekken has an infinite things to learn, when the things he currently needs to know to play are much smaller
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>>262505196
>>262504262
not him but adding on to this the secret is figuring out how to do a backdash from crouch by only pressing back once.
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>>262505359
>ak
>honest
LMFAOOOOOOO
>inb4 rigged popularity chart
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>>262505735
I'm teaching him the concept of strings and what everything means at the moment say for example when he reads a guide that says f+1+2 he'll know to do forward, left punch, right punch. As for heart he's read up on some basics of lars and he's playing low ranked games (kyu) and has won a few so he's really eager to learn more and get better
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Aside from Kazuya, what are the other heavily 50/50 orientated characters in this game?
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>play a 200 win green kazuya
>he is really aggressive
>decide to go hyper unga mode
>get plugged after demoting him
its the little things in life
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>>262507382
paul
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>>262507382
Kazuya is far and away the most focused on mashing 50/50s. other than him its djin anna akuma hwo jack that come to mind immediately.
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>>262507385
>200 win green kazuya
if its your first character isn't 200 wins at green rank acceptable?
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>>262507553
lol
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>>262507701
answer me bitch
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>>262507553
stop caring about e-penis points. unless you have 5k wins and your rank hasn't changed in a long time then you need re-evaluate your learning process.
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>>262507553
Nobody actually cares, don't get too self conscious
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>>262507227
>honestly crouchdash throws you
pshh... nothing personnel, kid
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Who wrote the Yoshimitsu conceptual guide? This stuff is a good read.
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Do you think you could you beat Edward Snowden 1v1 in Tekken?
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>>262504262
where does the b get stored?
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>>262507382
Paul, eddy, bob, dvj, anna, shaheen, probably more.
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>>262508107
in here
*spreads ass*
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>>262508032
Yeah, I do. I even think Putin can beat him as well.
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NIGGA NIGGER NIGGGGGGGGER I AM THE PHANTOM
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>>262507227
>Doesn't get to mash + on block launchers
>Gives you multiple chances to break out of his 50/50s even if you get hit by them
>Linear as fuck
AK is too honest to be called a Mishima. It's telling that JDCR was thinking of dropping AK because he's too difficult and wanted to pick up a Mishima instead.
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>tfw using binds
Why do I feel so dirty?
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>>262507986
me
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>>262508954
Because you're a retard.
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https://twitter.com/Fergus_TK/status/1161778048376758273
what do you call this set up
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>>262508954
>he thinks binds are bad

let me guess you started playing tekken 7 a year ago and only use 4 buttons "because the OGs in the arcade had to"
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>>262509117
American setup
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>>262509193
back when it took skill to play tekken
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>>262508954
The only people who bitch about binds are og players with arcade 4 button nostalgia. It's in the game, use it, bind as many buttons as you can be comfortable with, even pros use it in tournaments. If you are a pad player and don't claw your pad you really should bind 2+3 and 1+4 as it is difficult to press them otherwise.
Not using binds is like not using the rage art button and doing it them manualy. The game gives you the option and there is no reason not to take it as it opens room for execution errors otherwise.
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Tried to give a king main hardstuck in yellows with 4000 wins some advice to improve, he tells me to fuck off and then gets his friend to attempt to troll me with weird messages. Why do these fucking faggots play Tekken?
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>The black men are big! They're bigger!
>Bigger!
>BIGGER!
>Kazuya cannot stand it - it is as though he is a milk thistle in a garden of jagged thorns!
>His power - the Devil Gene - is like a tiny sliver of gold
>Sinking into a river of death
>Flowing with melanin!
ZAWA ZAWA
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>>262509193
He's probably just a Clayton brapman drone parroting that insane retards opinions
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>>262510297
>Why do these fucking faggots play Tekken?
for fun.
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>>262509193
Joke's on you I played since Tag 2 for Wii U. I just don't want to beat the shit out of my buttons to get double presses down consistently
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hey anons. newbie to Tekken and I'm trying to find a fun character to play. i'm not all too convinced about who's a top tier on this list as long as they're not complete dogshit/unviable to play in anything even resembling competitive play, which I hear isn't really a thing in Tekken.

i watched a few videos and read character overviews and this is the list of characters that even remotely interest me. not looking for anything too difficult, but i don't mind spending time on one character to learn it. i like rushdown, kinda quick characters if that makes any difference. any input?

alisa
anna
dragunov
lars
law
nina
paul phoenix
shaheen
steve fox
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>>262510516
What's fun about never understanding the game your playing at all?
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>>262511025
go to reddit evonigger
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>>262508954
on that note
why do all the Kazuya players on here never mention how binding 2+3 to a shoulder button and doing EWGF with one hand makes it significantly easier to do EWGFs?
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>>262510309
KUYASHI
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>>262511025
Dragunov, Law, Steve, and Nina are probably your best bet if you want rushdown. Dragunov is the simplest of the characters.
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One day, I'll destroy all of you.
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>>262511025
lars
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>>262511252
>Playing a mishima on anything other than a stick with no binds
im not a fraud that's why
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>>262511025
they're all fine just play someone you like the look of
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>>262511367
chill out Chloe
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There's too many characters....
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>>262510297
Your mistake was trying to reason with a king nigger, they're all casual retards who think king is epic XD
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>>262508954
Not binding is objectively inferior to binding.
Binding guarantees 100% clean inputs in simultaneous button presses. You could press 1+2 normally with the two buttons but once in a hundred times you could press a button faster or slower and get a 2 or 1. With a binded 1+2 you will never, ever get it wrong.
The only way to 100% guarantee it without binds is to buffer, but buffering is not always practical outside of combo situations. And you have to think about it.
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>>262511365
>rushdown Steve
Worst Steves whenever I see them online
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>>262511585
>bindnigger finds thinking hard
lmfaooo
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>>262511234
why

>>262511365
i hear Nina is super fuckin hard to play. i also read that Anna fits the rushdown playstyle too. is that true or nah?

>>262511391
can you tl;dr me his playstyle

>>262511412
ty anon
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>>262511683
He said one scenario was superior than the other, nothing about it being hard
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>>262511725
>why
because we dont need some faggot tourist evonigger shitting up the thread
fuck off you arent wanted and you'll just quit the fucking game in a week anyway
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>caring about binds
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Is Shaheen just Lee for brainlets?
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>>262511725
Nina is hard at high level but easy otherwise.Just chimp out with her gorilla ass strings and when you start to get good you can learn her tech
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>>262511838
just for that i'm gonna play the game for more than a week you fucking kike
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>>262508954
Pros use binds all the time, when did it become an issue at all?
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>>262511818
>And you have to think about it.
>bindniggers also cant read
lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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>>262511838
HOLY FUCKING BASED
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>>262511986
Not thinking about anything but the match and doing everything automatically is objectively superior, yes.
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>>262507278
if there's one video I think I can recommend it's probably this
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/299773440
It very logically goes over how tekken works as a game and what your mind should be on when playing it, might help him wrap his mind around it.
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>>262512221
let me guess. Kazuya player?
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>>262511986
Are you that autistic Bloody Roarfag who just talks to himself all thread and doesn't read anything he replies to or something
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>>262512237
this guy is fucking shit dont recommend this guy
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>>262511818
>>262512403
>>262511986
>this being an ongoing conversation at all
I almost forgot it was Summer time
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>>262512452
I'm not recommending you sub to the guy and polish his dick, but that video itself is good.
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Who is your date for the boy & girl 2v2 tournament next month?
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I like Josie.
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>>262512801
your mum
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>>262512801
I'm going as tkfightsprit's girlfriend
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>>262511142
They're casuals, they don't give a fuck about anything.
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>>262511725
Anna is very rushdown/mixup focused but has very poor tracking.
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>>262512801
previous champion was yuyu and her boytoy
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>>262513954
Damn imagine roping in the TWT champion to win you a free monitor
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>>262513954
god id rape her
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Kazumi is cancer
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>>262513954
rangchu is almost as emotionless as shadow
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What's a good way to learn defense and evasion when you have no one to play with(i.e. no scene) and a shit internet connection? Just pop in certain strings in practice mode?
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>>262514663
jus take your turn bitchboy what are you afraid of :)
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>>262514213
>when you want to rope in the evo champion but standing next to girls is haram
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>>262514892
Shadow's emotion is sad
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>>262514991
at that point I'd just think fighting games aren't for me, to be honest.
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>>262514991
no point in playing if you have shit net and no offline scene.
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>>262515141
>>262515389
But I love this game. When I move to a better place I'm going on and offline to my heart's content
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>>262512801
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>>262516510
guess you'll just have to be a lab fiend until you do, watching random matches and then labbing how your character can react to specific situations n shit. Nothing else to do.
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>is faster than your main
>is safer than your main
>is easier than your main
>has better punishment than your main
>has better tracking than your main
>has better movement than your main
>has better pokes than your main
Literally the only reason to play other characters if you're trying to win, is just the fact that Kazumi is one of the most boring fighting game characters ever created.
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>>262516871
What can I say, my wife is perfect and yours is probably a total slut.
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>>262516871
Alisa is cuter.
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>>262516871
just in a lobby watching this crazy good law pulling off DSS cancels in clutch situations, loses to a kazumi spamming df1 .
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>>262516871
Sorry kid, her db4 doesn't launch on counterhit and she isn't half as safe as my character.
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>spend years practicing DSS tech in the lab while watching my favorite bruce lee movie and Rip talking about how law isn't top 3
>lose to a 13 frame -3 OB mid
Based Kazumi showing shitters what tekken is
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day of the nerf is coming kazumifrauds.
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>>262517810
Nah the guy was contesting it, she just has a strong kit to play around with. And it's incredibly boring, it's hype seeing someone pull of hard stuff, kazumi has nothing like that
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tekgen:
>seething tortured autists learning frame data 9 hours a day and complaining about every character in the game
fgg:
>relaxed chads chilling, sharing their waifus and having fun shitposting with their top notch senses of humor
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>>262518281
you'd have to be delusional to thing /fgg/ isn't seething 25/8 my dude
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weakest bait i have seen in some time
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>>262516871
how does Kazumi have exceptional movement
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>>262518142
People in tournaments don't do hard stuff anyway, sometimes you have a lee clown in pools pulling a crowd or Jimmy shows off some retarded obscure combo you'll only ever see once, but you get to top 8 by being the safest nigga on the planet.
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>tekgen
plays the game
>fgg
doesn't play
i wonder if there is a correlation here
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>>262518657
better than average back dash
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>>262518657
she has a top tier backdash and a better-than-average sidestep
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>>262496432
jun.
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>>262517349
she is also safer
same easiness
better movement
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>tekgen
tekken general
>fgg
fighting games general
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>>262519090
source
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>>262519090
Man is that really all that separates the top tier backdashes from the rest of the flock, 5%?
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>>262496432
Anna's big, fat silicone cock
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>>262519351
reddit
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>>262519090
source or fuck off with this made up chart
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>>262519520
lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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>>262518683
Hello tourist faggot, go back please
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>>262519364
based and femdompilled
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>>262519785
I've been here longer than you've been stuck in greens
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>>262519785
cant wait for all the evo tourists to quit the game in a month or sooner.
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>>262519856
Nice projection faggot, now go back
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god its so shit we got season 3 instead of a new game. fuck these fucking hacks and these ngigers that enable them yes daddy harada pls make more shitty dlc instead of fixing the shitty base game (only saved by gameplay) with a new title.
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>>262509117
A step in the right direction
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>>262520083
seething, coping and also probably need to dilate
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>>262520168
tekken 8 isn't coming until ps5 buddy
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>>262520272
Nice buzzwords faggot, now go back
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>>262519785
Explain how he is wrong, top 8 is nearly always safe as fuck consistent characters while all the lees and kazuyas drown in pools trying to impress people with tech.
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>>262516510
Best chance is convincing a friend to get better with you. Worked for Jimmy and Bronson.
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>>262520272
Have sex
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>>262520531
All the other top ten characters even geese and Steve have cool stuff that's hard to pull off and gets the cowed hype. Kazumi has none of that.
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reminder that the new cheatbox is getting banned and there's a highchance that the other one will get banned.

But you've actually know how to play tekken don't you anon? You didn't cheat at it, right?
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>>262520801
Give me literally one example of steve being played as anything more than a b1 dispenser in a recent top 8.
Also
>woah he got 60% off a dickjab geese is so hyperzzz guys
complete brainlet tier
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>>262520983
Both of those characters are still infinitely more watchable that kazumi
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Any tips on making quick decisions? I feel like I can't think fast enough when I am placed in a mixup, so I assume I have to prepare my decisions in advanced.
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killing with a million paper cuts = lame, last season, uninteresting
killing with a single jab into a super combo = very fun, interactive for both parties, must've practiced in the lab for at least 50 minutes
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>>262521131

not really no, gesse is aids and so is akuma. You mad cause a Pakis do what burgers dont
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>>262521131
They're really not any better, they are all their own different form of cancer and the only reason you're currently butthurt about kazumi is she won this time.
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>>262520801
explain akuma
pro tip you cant
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>>262521296
Nah I don't have arslan he's an excellent player I just think kazumi is boring as fuck to watch and play against. I'll concede that the same goes for Steve and geese though
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>>262521470
he gets the stream chat that knows nothing about the game hype
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>>262520843
yep i can play on pad about as well. i'll beat your ass on either any day kiddo ;)
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Execution is the most boring fucking thing to get hype about
>dude he grinded out an 80% damage combo in the lab what a beast
Literally anyone could do it, especially in tekken the combos are the easiest thing for pro players
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>>262521586
i meant to reply to>>262520531
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>>262520983
>not like the good night harada meme
Fuck off
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Top 8s use to have devil jin but then that fucker qudans decided to suck dick for saudi arabian money instead.
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>>262519717
cope
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>>262519090
A note on backdash rankings: the raw distance of a backdash is not the only factor in the evasive properties of the movement. Characters such as Alisa and Eddy have idle animations that increase the distance created, and will put them ahead of the competition. Likewise, some characters' idle animation will gimp their backwards movement: depending on the timing of an initial backdash, Josie can move one of several different distances, leading to more inconsistent evasion.
It is also equally important to consider the size, stance, and consequently the hitbox placement of different characters; Bears will be better at evading lows than most, while having a more difficult time with mids and highs. Conversely, Maven has the opposite problem.
>tldr: due to different idle animations and hitboxes, backdash distance ranking is NOT an accurate backdash tier list
eck bock
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>>262521724
Pulling off a difficult move in a clutch situation is hype though
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>>262521951
Not when he does it nearly everytime
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>>262521231
eh just keep playing i guess, game sense comes with time.

but for mixups you can absolutely practice them, see if can interrupt or sidestep/backdash certain scenarios.
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Why the fuck would I have to buy a garbage pad or an expensive as fuck stick when I already have a keyboard and it's 10 times better as a controller?
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>>262522402
You can't go to tourneys with a keyboard
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>>262522082
Im not talking about akuma though. Are you trying to tell me it wasn't hype when Ryan Hart in Tekken 5 pulled off that kazuya Ch df2 pewgf combo in 5 in an actual tournament. That shit is part of what makes Tekken fun to watch
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>>262522536
That is cool. I am just sick of Akuma combos and everyone excusing how broken they are because of execution
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>>262522536
If only we had kazuya players
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>>262522752
Oh yeah I agree they're extremely gay and that character can die. Also sick of that faggot super akouma
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>>262521946

You are forgetting the most important thing, how long does it takes for the dash to complete or how fast it

>>262522402

yeah why the fuck does it matters if i macro, fuck other people
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How do I get up vs ff4 from Kazuya without eating hellsweep?
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>>262523196
What part of true vortex don't you understand you fucking NIGGER
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>>262523196
time to guess asshole
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>>262521231
>so I assume I have to prepare my decisions in advanced.
Thats honestly how I think you should do it. Only think in between games/rounds. Once you've gotten a plan, it's probably better to stick to it at least for that round than it try to process everything mid game.
The "don't think too much" line is more like "get to a point where you're comfortable and let your instinct take control."
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>>262523196
Guess right.
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>>262522474

yes you can but you'll get insta called out if you are doing something fishy on Hitbox you can be as much of degenerate as you want FOR NOW.

Seriously stop being a nigger and learn to play.
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>>262523196
if you get hit by ff4 on the ground you can tech left then sidewalk left to avoid everything except an additional wavedash (which makes him interuptable) or ws2
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>>262520360
We're getting Tekken x Street Fighter next.
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I wish knee played steve a bit less like a total fuckin bitch
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fellow stick cucks im seething rn. it was meant to be played this way bros why dont hitbox chads understand if you aren't getting carpal tunnel does it even count...
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>>262520801
>geese
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>>262524526
wait
how is that possible?
I thought Bryan's hit after the parry was guaranteed?
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Hello, Tekken players.

Look at your waifu, now back to mine, now back at your waifu, back to mine. Sadly, she isn't as good looking as my waifu, but if you stopped trying to cheese with snake edges, she could look like she's being played by me.

Look down, now back up. Where are you? You're in a arcade playing against the man you could play like. What's in your hand? Back to me. I have it. It's a Harada figurine with two tickets to the next Tekken World Tour.

Look again. The tickets are now trophies.

Anything is possible when you play like a man and not a cheesy online player.

I'm on a win streak.
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>>262524963
the hit is an unblockable. so steve can block and do actions and so was able to avoid it here with backsway.
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>>262524526

>b1 into flick INSTANTLY without reading the opponent

Yeah the thing is then knee would be a steve main.
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>>262525316
theres not a single b1 not in a combo in that entire webm you stupid faggot
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>>262524526
I wish sway wasn't a meme youtube montage stance
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>>262525721

then what the fuck that move is? thats another thing steve has, a lot of his neutral moves are really similar, basically kazumi for gays and brits
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>>262505272
alright, this is the kind of tech i was looking for. thank you
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>>262485146
Eliza doesnt even play like a tekken character so he can eat a fucking dick.
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>>262526364
www.reddit.com/r/tekken
this place might be better for you evo tourist :)
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>>262526895

hey alright, don't talk to me.
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yuyu no!
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>>262527383
thats not yuyu, thats nina nishimura
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>Yuyu was an Enko
Damn i wonder if she still hustles.
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>>262527019
Based arnis sub, whats your favorite meymey? Mine is get shot :)
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>>262527383
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homo based tekken
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6_FxvBgCf4

Guys, what the FUCK? I thought whorang was the hardest character in the cast, the thinking man character, hes not supposed to be unga against people that know how to play against him in high level OUR GUY CANT BE WRONG NOOO!
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>>262530664
You're arguing against literally nobody
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>>262492510
To be fair you do need to be very defensive to be a Kazuya player
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>>262531696
it's unironically true. you can't ape on people with kazuya like boaluvb unless they are trash OR you've played tekken for a very long time.
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>>262531828
maybe your average green rank who cant control their character can't but anyone in fujin+ is mashing like a zero fundies ape.
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>>262531208

Jesus man relax, just watch the set its a good one.
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>>262531828
See what I mean boys as soon as anyone says anything about Kazuya you gotta be sharp, as a member of the KDF. Not even Lars players get this defensive
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>>262531696
>>262531828
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>>262485025
how do I play Lars?
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>>262532489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elfnzG_Cwz8
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>>262532186
not my fault frauds like to spread inaccurate memes about the most based character in the game
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>>262485519
lmfaoo nice """""""fundies"""""
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>>262474980
If it's not listed under free updates then it isn't free.
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>>262474980
>is something listed in the season pass free
hello retard
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Ranked was a mistake
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Man playing Lili honestly has to be the hardest thing. She has no fucking lows, her best low doesn't high crush and comes out at like 16 frames with no CH properties or good damage and its 0 on hit.
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>>262533465
>season 1 green ranks
lmao
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>>262511025
Paul and Alisa
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>>262533778
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>lili has no lows
nigga im, not biting this bait nuh uh
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Kazumi has no lows
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>>262533465
What region?
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>>262534105
Northeast NA
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Nina has no lows
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>>262534252
Fucking jealous boy, wish my server was that free
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Yoshi has no lows, don't duck against him unless he's in no sword stance.
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>>262534442
If you're opponents have good connections I'd trade place with you in a heartbeat. Only reason those 3 trades at the end there happened was because of the lag.
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>>262534672
>hits you with a homing high-crushing unseeable CH-launching long-range low
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>>262534628
He's not wrong
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Cam awn
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>>262533465
i dont understand, how do these people get to yaksa? am i just respecting people too much?
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>>262535125
>sees the player is playing Steve, possibly the best character in the game
>durr how has he attained such a rank?
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>>262533887
Im serious the thing in fact was 20 frames but +2 but tell me that thats not garbage
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>>262535420
Go play Katarina, King, or Lars and then get back to me about "bad lows"
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>>262535393
hey fuck you man
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>>262535125
>wait, me allowed to use gimmicks and frame traps?

Yikes
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LI Joe is playing Kazuya on stream
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>>262536024
nobody wants to watch that cancer-patient-looking bald-ass bitch.
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>>262535125
In that guy's case, his two advantages were his connection and Steve. Literally just had to deal with jab strings, flck b1 shit, d2,1, etc. And because all his strings have retarded range, every time I try to whiff punish, I get CH.
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>>262536210
>trying to whiff punish Steve
That was your first mistake. Just accept that, in general, you're going to have little to zero opportunities to launch a Steve player.
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>>262535925
what frame trap or gimmick was the steve player using there? mashing jab when you are -5 and then -7 is a frame trap now?
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if you:

mash
spam throws
spam strings
play a character with a stance
play a character with a flippy kick
customize your character

I will winquit or alt+f4 before you get my points
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>>262537021
spam block
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>>262511252
What do you mean one handed ewgfs?
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>>262536390
I tell myself that all the time. It just pissed me off that he'll whiff the entire flik jab string, I'll do something like df2 or try to dash and jab, but then get CH by him mashing the string again. It's also bull that the string jells, so I can't even duck the highs.
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Mike Ross streaming Tekken
https://www.twitch.tv/mikeross
Just set the category, will start soon
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stopping geese df1,1 df1, 1 and d4 if you jab back pressure feels like playing with fire
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>>262530664
typical julia masher running straight into launchers
wow
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Man it seems Lili is just boring to play. Whom should I play now? Thus far I've learned Kazuya and Xiaoyu and enjoyed Kazuya because of the mixup mixup style and Xiaoyu because of her craziness.
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speedkicks vs chop
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https://www.twitch.tv/jdcr
MASKU
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>>262534883
it's chip damage
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>>262537235
That didn't last long.
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>>262537235
He just looked at Marduk's number of moves and rage quit
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>>262537235
>Found no tutorial and one look at a long move list
>Immediately ran back to GG
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>>262538951
>>262538940
lmao the absolute state of 2dbabs
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Tekken is now confirmed to be the most hardcore fighting game
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the only game that's probably worse than that is tekken, i still think tekken is a horrible game
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Reminder to all King players, remember commit suicide
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Tekkucks on assblast mode.
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hes back lads
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>>262537656
Julia is fun, but since you're a Lili player you're not allowed to player her sorry
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>Taking another shot
I give him 10 minutes.
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>>262539976
to what, read a handful of moves and use them?
maybe do the sample combos
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>>262539857
i know, time to get comfy with jdcr
https://www.twitch.tv/jdcr
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>>262540119
Before he quits again
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He isn't even doing shit yet but still has 950 viewers. Had he continued streaming he could have been Aris level or even more popular
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>>262540386
isn't he a trustfund kid?
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Should I use Kazumi and Lili if the c*mbrain in me finds them appealing?
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>>262542020
yes
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>tfw you're in a rut when trying to learn the game
>want to learn somebody else instead
>they don't click with you at all
>now the original character you wanted to learn feels like they don't click with you anymore either
>you're in character limbo
i just want to have a character that i can just sit down, play practice mode with and not find tedious to learn
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>>262542157
w8 for Zafina
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>>262542157
jokes on you, you're gonna have to spend 30x the time learning the other characters anyway
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>>262542157
at least now the time you've used to learn another character you have a better understanding the matchup and what their moves are.
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>>262487417
>>262487262
lmao
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>>262485519
Ravenda85 is Knee, right?
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>>262536024
>overlord with feng
>85 wins
>dropping combos, poor movement
them fighting fundamentals
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>>262542817
yes
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>>262542817
no, it's me
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>When a luchadora due to take place in the second Tag Tournament is injured in a car crash, a grieving woman, most likely the woman's mother, pleads with Julia to take her position instead. While initially hesitant, Julia agrees to don the luchadora outfit and enter the tournament under the alias "Jaycee". The identity of the injured woman and her link to Julia is left unknown.
What's the chance of Julia's fren getting into Tekken 7? Jaycee at least was fun at least.
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>>262542817
Yes. Iirc, there are 3 Ravendas. 85 is knee, 87 is Chanel, and I can't remember who the third is.
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made it to expert without any strings and i feel like im handicapping myself at this point because most people i play heavily rely on them and they force way more mixups than im forcing on them by just using stray moves
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>>262520168
ngigers
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>>262505272
If you are Xiaoyu or Yoshimitsu, you can counter this.
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It's so dull playing fighting games with just randoms online. I feel like you never learn when you don't have someone there always coaching you along the way.
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>>262544948
no thats just tekken lmao
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>>262537021
>customize your character
buzama da na
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hey this mike ross guy is pretty chill decent streamer/10
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>>262544982
I played hundreds of hours of SFV solo and it was even worse.
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>>262545169
I thought your problem was you felt like you werent learning?
learning sfv is easy as fuck
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>>262544948
Try player matches.
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>>262545235
I'm not having fun either.
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>>262542157
Try Paul
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>>262545287
maybe you just dont like fighting games
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>season 3 coming, don't really feel like playing much
>lets learn a mishima
>pick Heihachi
>ok yeah i'll learn Heihachi
>learning his combos
>wallcarry combo is an autistic dash up bf input ender
well bros i gave it a shot
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>>262545360
Maybe so. But I also have fun when I play someone of equal footing and I gradually get better alongside that dude. I've always loved fighting games as a kid.
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What makes Josie a gorilla? I want to play a gorilla and I heard she is a huge gorilla but when I press random buttons on her she feels lack luster unlike someone like Paul
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>>262545541
Not a Tekken God but why is that Ganryu grabbing against a crouching Ling?
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what does raven get in this situation? was fucking around in practice and managed to get the opponent face up feet away by delaying the first hit of b22. i cant find anything on this setup/tech but db4 is basically guranteed on everything other than quick recovery and toe kick
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why are there so many mashing retards in this game
god I hate red ranks
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If i keep getting katarina’s HAR while trying to do ff4 does this mean i’m pressing 4 too slow or too early?
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Wouldn't be nice if this game had proper 64 player lobbies and this general could have lobbies up all the time and you could join and leave as you wished?

That would be pretty neat.
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>>262545974
>implying tekgen wouldn't dodge
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>>262545782
side rolling right.
looks like it can be done instead of her bnb wall combo
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>>262542238
That's the worst part. I've been hopping between characters, looking up various combos and whatnot that I keep doing stuff like, straight up try doing Lars combos when trying to play Maven or Jin combos when playing Lars. It's all a muddled mess.
Not to mention the fact that, trying to keep frame data and all that shit in your head as someone with pretty severe dyscalculia is stressful and not helpful for me in the slightest.
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>Yoshi negroes flowcharting and flashing whenever its not working in their favor
>Nina negroes mashing
>Steve niggers mashing
>Kazumi niggers mashing
should I just play these braindead players, Miguel is so fucking awful anyways
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>>262545692
Me too. Why don’t you practice with me?
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>>262545745
looked like he was trying to take his turn without realizing she was crouching
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Speaking of frame data, why doesn't this game have an option that displays frame advantage in-game? As far as I know, only Virtua Fighter had this function. Atleast they offered it in practice mode so you didn't need to look up online guides and memorize them.
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>>262546213
>yoshi
>braindead
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>>262546213
just play someone with a magic 4 if mashing fucks you up that badly.
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>>262546262
Steam EU?
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>>262546279
the joy of discovery
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>>262546279
if murray isnt a fucking retard he WILL put frame data in season 3
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WHO ARE THE BIG GORILLAS IN THIS GAME

TELL ME NOW
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>>262546279
Harada dislikes it
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>>262546334
>eu
Nevermind
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>>262546332
so Kazumi
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>>262546345
Based
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What makes Heihachi's hellsweep so bad?
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>>262545974
xrd player lobbies should be in every game, by far the best
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>>262546596
And for some reason they aren't despite Xrd releasing ages ago which is more than enough time for other devs to just fucking copy it. That's all you need to do. Just copy it. Don't blame lack of resources. ASW is working with sake budget and Daisuke is doing half the work. It's not a matter of budget. Just fucking do it.
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>>262546407
Why? The game does sometimes hint at frame advantage through animations but only when the frame advantage is huge to either side.
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>>262546538
it's not DJs
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>>262546538
if they get hit by the first one then instead of a guaranteed reward situation it's another mixup with arguably smaller rewards.
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>Mike just won his first game
>Beat a Geese in the process
Based. He's already doing his part in fighting the 2d menace.
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How technical is Lili? She's cute in the right angles and her style seems pretty cool and unorthodox compared to many typical like, straight up fighters. I'm not good at the game or anything, so if she's super technical it's probably better to wait with her I think.
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>>262543648
Sodam has been running around as 80 recently
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>>262546998
Funnier because I think the reason he mains Marduk is because it was his main in SFxT
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Who are some fun, easy characters?
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>>262547162
alisa
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is there any real reason to play AK when King is considerably better?
even Kings throw game is better and all of AKs best moves were given to King
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>>262547005
Don’t say it
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>>262547404
I don't know what you mean? As said I'm not all too experienced with the game or it's memes.
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>>262547291
they are very different not really directly comparable in playstyle.
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>>262547005
shes straight forward. not at all technical
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>>262547490
how so? are you going to tell me AK is poke heavy? cause even King has better pokes than AK
he could even control people who step a lot
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>>262547404
feeties
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>>262547162
asuka
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>>262547553
ak has generic df1 which changes his playstyle quite a lot.
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Anyone else here play with nude mods on?
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>>262547757
I only watch porn when I want to jack off. Staring at nude girls all day gets tiresome.
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>>262547757
yeah my armor king has a nice big black cock
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If you don't think Feng's hawaiian shirt isn't sweet as fuck then get the fuck out of my face. Should be his main outfit
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>>262547931
i hope its a cute girl
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>>262547719
so? his df1 is so stubby and has no range
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>>262548165
im not saying hes better or worse im saying it changes how he plays in a significant way. also its not that stubby unless you are comparing it to kazumis broken shit or something
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>>262547005
Depends if you play her honest she's difficult I feel. If you sprinkle in the nonsense she's intermediate.
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>>262548219
in general to the majority that has a df1, his is stubby
and in what way does it change his gameplan? to be aggressive? King can already do that
so again, why play AK when King is better in every possible way
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>>262548421
its not a case of being aggressive or not it just warps what he actually does.
lets look at king df2 (his 13f mid) and the mind game on block compared to ak.
king df2 is -6 on block but has mental frames with the duckable followup as well as being ch confirmable.
ak df1 is -1 on block no followup but leaves room to move around retaliation and apply dark upper or ss21 whiff punishes.
both of these moves are used in very different ways and because it is their primary 13f mid poke that will get used a lot to check it warps how they play significantly at range zero and just in general. does that make sense?
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At what rank can I consider myself good at Tekken?
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>>262548836
Evo champ
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>>262548836
When you stop worrying about rank and focus on just improving. There are scrubs at all levels. >>262533465
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>>262548836

red/purple i guess, don't worry about it.
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>>262548836
emperor minimum
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>>262548375
what does this even mean
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>>262549154
its just some retard who doesn't understand the game. probably an evo tourist
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>>262485025
who is the most honest fighter to learn in Tekken 7?
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>>262548826
Not him but King has a pure df1 too, it's his df1. Not only is it -1 like a regular df1, but it also has double the range, turns +1 on shallow hit, has a (tricky) hit-conformable 30 damage followup that also has mental +frames on block, and the only downside is that it's i14. There's nothing AK can do with his df1 that King can't also do with a combination of his df1 and df2, but better
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>>262549332
leo
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>>262548836
you don't
you can be absolutely garbage and be at Tekken God Prime
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>>262549384
I expected this answer, but this guy is so fucking boring.
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>>262549345
yes but kings df1 being i14 is more important than you give it credit for. for example at -1 (like after blocking a jab) king will trade with generic df2 if he does his df1 or if king is +1 it will trade with generic df1s, his df1 is a good poke but not used in the exact same was a regular df1 is. and again this all ties into them playing in a different way, king having to use two different moves (even if they are both good) is a difference in playstyle that makes playing them a different experience offensively and defensively.
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>>262549572
>guy
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>you can get treasure for dlc characters you don't even fucking own in treasure battle
well fuck you harada
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>>262549706
don't forget
even if you get that 1000 games or whatever and unlock everything, you don't unlock the DLC character skins
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>>262545632
pussy
you can just do b1+2, 1+2
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>>262549154
It means that if you use snake edge, easy command throw, df4,4 and a few more gimmicks, she can easily fast track you to red ranks, but if you poke normally you'll notice you don't do much damage or have many moves to apply good pressure.
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>play in the day
>barely anyone online
>play at night
>mashing niggers everywhere, flow charts and 2/3 bars galore
this game is so garbage
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>>262549332
AK, Feng, or Law will show you the ropes as long as you don't abuse their gimmicky shit that only works online. Dragunov is also an okay choice as of S2.
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>>262549598
What I'm saying is the existence of both df1 and df2 gives King every option that AK has and more. You can use df1 to 'move around retaliation and apply [SS whiff punishers]' as a normal primary mid poke. If you want an i13 move to contest with in +1/-1 scenarios, you can use his df2 for a 35-45 damage CH combo instead of a 12 damage hit
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>>262549572
>guy
nice b8
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>>262550097
>he unironically complains about lili's snake edge
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My hitbock is about to arrive bros... Cheater gang wya
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>>262549706
they should just let me unlock the dlc characters themselves after 10000 matches
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So easy to win with Yoshimitsu online, nobody punishes anything.
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>>262550453

relax zoom zoom
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Harada you fat fucking loser why did you add Negan and Noctis to this game? Are you really that much of a sellout?
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>>262550281
ok but what happens when you do the contesty thing and now you are -6 instead of -1. you arent only doing the ss whiff punishy thing on offense you can do it after a check. vs armor king you have to always be aware of the possibility of a ss whiff punish whereas against king you are thinking about a ss whiff punish after df1 and you are thinking of ducking the followup or contesting after df2. df2 will have to be used in some situations where most chars use a generic df1 which is less committal. not that its a bad move its just fundamentally a different situation and one that he will have to use in some situations.
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>lagging asuka nigger
>mashing lagging law nigger
>lagging anna nigger
>the only other faggot not lagging is some gorilla kazumi faggot
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>>262516871
Both the characters I play are cooler though and that's all that matters.
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>>262550148
>Law and Feng's gimmick shit doesn't work offline
lmao what the fuck? do you even watch any tournaments? even high level players fall for that shit
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>>262550726
If he was a real sellout he'd add that fag Kiryu reddit keeps begging for.
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>>262485075
Asuka
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>>262550870
No because that's just fan demand and not big publisher bucks. Noctis is from SE bucks and Negan is AMC bucks. God I hate those mashing Negan tards online.
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>>262550601
>thinking that believing in the practice of unlocking characters through playing the game makes you a zoomer
found the zoomer
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>>262550870
why the fuck would anyone want Kiryu
the problem isn't just Negan and Noctis in this shitty game, its that these useless fucking characters are never going to appear in another game again
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>>262550883
If you spam reversal literally every time your belligerent unga mashing actually gets blocked, it's no longer defense.
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>>262550912
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Do we know anyone going to Peru for Collision or is Abel just gonna earn a free slot into the top 20?
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You're not JDCR so you can't talk about the game.
Bryan vs Asuka is 10:0 matchup, 100% impossible because he lowcrushes her highs.
Paul is holding me back. By the way I can't do quarter circle motions.
The game is very poorly balanced at low levels.
Steve is shit.
Steve is top tier.
Raven can't open up turtles and can't do anything about pressure.
Kazuya's hellsweep tracks both sides.
Jin's RA is the worst in the game because it's high so it's a free launch.
df1,1 extensions are gimmicks because the second hit is high.
It's easy to RA through Claudio's hopkick: just look for when he jumps.
I'm Speedkicks.
Snake Edge doesn't launch, it knocks down and then you pick them up.
Qudans is dumb.
/tgg/ - teggen
Asuka is an offensive character, Kuma has the best hopkick in the game, and Feng has low damage output.
King's chaingrabs are option selectable, just mash the break for a single path.
EWGF is better than DJ's u4 as a panic move.
Out of the 2D characters, Eliza is the least 2D
Asuka doesn't need to duck because she can just do b+3.
Katarina mixes people up with Highs and Mids.
If you call me a bitch that means you main the character I hate.
Lili's Matterhorn is this game's version of a command throw from a 2D fighting game.
Playing regular Jin is suffering.
Deathfist should be a high.
Paul's qcf1 combos are super easy, just do qcf1 d/f1,b4 qcf2.
DSS is only for combos.
Gigas is literally unbeatable because everything he does is unreactable.
Lars vs Jack is a 10-0 match-up.
Josie is plus on everything.
Paul qcf1 combos are harder than Law's DSS.
Everything Noctis does is punishable.
20 frame lows are reactable.
btw I'm a mighty ruler in Japanese arcades.
Lars is the most honest character in the game.
Lars is the most dishonest character in the game.
Jack is PURE FUNDAMENTALS.
Hwoarang is holding me back.
Lili is a charge character.
Get a hitbox.
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lili footies on my penis
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>characters going under mids even more than previous games
>random fucking tracking from most moves (Heihachi's ff2, or that retarded Lars webm)
>armor moves
>movement is awful
>random buffs to characters that didn't need it
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>>262551313
>20 frame lows are reactable.
>btw I'm a mighty ruler in Japanese arcades
That thread was the best
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>>262551009
I genuinely wonder if they're gonna take a bunch of characters out agian and add them back over time with Tekken 8.
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Spoonfeed me an easy launcher with a follow up combo for Kazuya.
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>>262489665
>Unless Lee can do everything he's not worth the effort

Okay but why would I play him over Law?
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>>262551503
Probably. They make more money that way since they can sell half the cast as DLC now. Also huge rosters aren't always a good thing. Sometimes quality trumps quantity.
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>>262551527
Who gives a shit?
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>>262551503
now that Tekken is popular at its worst time in the franchise, it'll only go downhill from here
this sucks
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>>262551613
>huge rosters aren't always a good thing. Sometimes quality trumps quantity.
This is true, but that doesn't matter at all once you eventually add literally every character back into the game plus some guest characters from different genres and even media.
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>>262551313
Armor King has to block.
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>>262551519
launcher 314 df14 S! ender
launcher = ewgf or ff3 or ws2 or ws12 or ch df2
ender = cd3 or dash cd41 or dash df14 or dash df1f2
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>>262551527
Better oki
More consistentcy in combos/wallcarry, even Law autist like LowHigh and Rip drop DSS.
Lee has more ch tools also, including a ch launcher low, which Law doesn't have

Law is better but Lee has his strengths.
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>>262551527
acid rain
d3
wall combo
oki
he's excellent
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>>262551313
>I'm Speedkicks
No, I am.
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>>262501501
Just don't be afraid to take your turn.
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>>262511252
I don't get that feel. Maybe it's cause I learned it on a pad normally, but it just fucks up my timing
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>>262551874
Yup, I thought T7 would have less roster bloat than TTT2 but it seems like that was just an excuse to add characters as paid DLC instead. However I doubt these characters would've gotten added if DLC didn't exist. Apart from the trash guest characters, the rest are just fan demands.
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Oh God my phallus
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>>262552484
please don't post pictures of my wife, thanks
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Who was Arslan's top 5 again?


Geese, Kazumi, Steve, ???, ???

He didn't distinguish who was better but he has said he thinks Geese is better than Kazumi.
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>>262547291
Because they play differently and AK is cooler. King is undoubtedly a stronger character but just because they're both Kings doesn't mean every AK player has even a passing interest in King.
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>>262552080
That still isn't enough to justify playing Lee
d3 is still awful and he still loses to side steps, plus Law has better tools for poking, has a decent ch game (not as great as Lee), can go unga any time and has some of the best launchers for whiff punishing in the game
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>>262550837
Double has lost to Dragon tail more than he's beaten people with it.


Flips aren't a gimik they are trading the -13 of a hopkick for a 10 extra damage and a chance at mind gaming them into an unoptimal punish vs them getting a full launch.
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>>262552776
Then don't play him
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>>262551313
>Snake Edge doesn't launch, it knocks down and then you pick them up.


This distinction actually does matter when near the wall
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>>262552776
lee isnt that weak to ss at least not really more so that any other char. ssl duck is strong vs him but many chars have defensive oses that are equally as strong. lee has great jabs a top tier df1 some of the best chs in the whole game (his 4 and 444 etc are amazing and destroy any ss into buttons, b4 is a great keepout tool, d3 also destroys ss into buttons as well as things like 12.). if he does a jab on block most characters cannot step df1 in either direction which is insane. and while obviously not as good as law 3+4 he still has great whiff punishment with f3 which leads to insane damage and his wall game is also fantastic.
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>>262552776
Just play Jin
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its starting
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>>262553843
How do you adblock Twitch? My adblocker is fucking stupid.
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>>262553843
I hope the nip commentates in his broken engrish.
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>>262553884
i just use multitwitch, pretty sure theres some browser extensions that do it though
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>>262553843
>He's only just now starting to upload the SuperAkouma matches to youtube
>Going to be like another month before the paki sets
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>>262553884
On pc? ublock origin is the only adblocker you shoud be using
On mobile you either use a global adblocker of some kind or use a 3rd party app like Pocket Plays.
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Can someone show me a Julia player consistently landing the hopkick option select?
I refuse to believe it's possible to do this consistently.
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>>262554190
ublock is way better than the shit I used before. Worked instantly, thanks.
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Can I play more rushdown on Alisa or Claudio or are they both bad at that?
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christ this nina got dowloaded hard, ulsan is a monster
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what we tell em
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>Score girl confused for a second cause she couldn't believe the Nina got a point.
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>>262555185
Spoke too soon
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oh shit bros, this goes all the way to the top
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>>262554085
should have watched them live dumbfuck or you could pay up goy
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>>262555690
Spoke too soon
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I love how this Nina player plays.

https://clips.twitch.tv/NimbleFitAlligatorKippa
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Can someone explain Gigas's play style too me? Do I have to play very defensively?
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>>262555951
just lose because you have literally nothing good except jabs
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>>262555879
thats the good shit right there
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Korean way of playing is so boring compared to Japanese way of playing.

BUSHIDO
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>>262555951
backdash into playing Marduk
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>>262554341
Anyone?
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why do they even have a point girl this is so easy for someone to just do themselves
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>>262555951
Unga as fuck
Mash your full screen buttons into 70% plus setup
And then complain on tekgen about your character being bad
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>that Nina combo at the end
why didn't he just do her rage drive into resplat instead of that fucked up thing
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>>262556470
shes cute tho
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>>262555951
Okay so Gigas would be a good character if he had a way to enforce respect other than his one headbutt which is high and minus on block with low range (65 damage though and 12f so not too bad if they don't stop unga). I'm saying this because what you wanna do is get +frames and setup mixups via Goliath problem is people will often bitch you out with their pokes or counterhits.


So what you need to do is simple punish anything that is minus 10-14 with 1,2 it's more rewarding that most of your other punishes.
Keep people in check with the huge as fuck range on your d/f+1, and d/f+2,1.
d/f+2 is your best low it will crush highs, and is + enough on hit to make d/f+1 at worst trade with jabs.
Your other okay option is that Gigas' hopknee is safe (slower than normal I think) but CH launch only so only on the hardest reads should you use it.

Then establish frames to go Goliath and mixup. By the way you have 1 fucking throw so you're kinda completely fucked if they ain't swinging, but holy shit it does a crap load of damage (and can be buffered from d/f+2)

Best green rank setup I can think of is ff+2 which is a far range -9 on block move with pushback into the grab or a b2.
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nigga nigger NIIIGGGGGERRRRRRRR I AM THE PHANTOM
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Is Kazuya good?
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>>262557247
If you want to main Kazuya, good or not does not factor into it. Either you accept the MASKU in your heart or you settle for something else.
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>>262557247
top 10 easily
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Why does vortex in other fighters get criticized but it's seen as a cool thing in Tekken? Or is the latter just a tekgen thing?
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>>262557454
everyone thinks the vortex is retarded except kazuyaniggers who pretend they are honest 24/7
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Why does Tekken seem to attract more females than any other game
even my gf who doesn't play fighting games knows it
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https://twitter.com/TheAlexValle/status/1161904410261258240
What is this?
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>>262557685
it has gay boys
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>>262557454
Because there's no such thing as a true unavoidable vortex in Tekken and the only people who complain about it are green ranks who haven't learned the game. Getting cornered against Mika in SFV is a true cancer oki vortex in which you have no option but to guess, in Tekken you always have many options to deal with any situation.
>>262557247
Extremely good
>>262557448
No
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>>262557685
because its low iq and women being stupider than average flock to the easy low iq mashing game
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>>262557454
vortex is easier to escape in tekken, on top of the fact that you dont get chipped to death from it
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>King gets me with the Arm Breaker
>hohoho not today bitch
>Mash 2 to break the upcoming RDC during the Face Lock
>It doesn't break
>Die

Does pressing a direction count as a missed input when throw breaking? Sometimes I feel like a throw break doesn't work and I get thinking it was because they grabbed me during a backdash and my kbd input ate my break attempt.
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>>262557730
t. kazuya player
after hellsweep its a vortex. it may not be a 50/50 but it still a vortex. you either get up into a 50/50 or you stay down and the situation reset by ff4.
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>>262557685
women only started liking tekken when the graphics got more realistic, so now they cream themselves over hwo
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>>262557685
The female characters are less sexualized than other fighting games and the male characters are more fuccboi-ish too
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>>262557817
hahahahaahahahah he fell for the rdc is a 2 break meme lmaoooooo its a 1 break
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>>262557736
based /fgg/ bro
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>>262557817
The break sequence is 1, 1+2, 2. The 1 break is for the initial grab, 1+2 is for the second grab in the chain and if all fails mash 2 like your life depends on it.
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>>262557685
In Tekken you can just mash and win no thinking until you reach high, high ranks.

>>262557882
>The female characters are less sexualized
This isn't even true. MK has the least sexualized girls and no girl is ever touching that shit. By the way, DoA is also famous for having a fuckton of female players.
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>>262557882
I wonder if most of them would leave if Ling and Alisa weren't in the game
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>>262558015
this time it's for real
this time he has ALREADY WON before even playing
he has discovered the ultimate option select
you don't have to play the game
if you always win the game
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>>262558141
>doa
>having a fuckton of any players
lmao
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>>262558141
MK is gory as shit though
Also less sexualized doesn't mean ugly like most of MK's chicks are
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>>262558141
MK girls are ugly tho
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>>262558245
In proportion to total player base, DoA is famous for attracting female players. DoA6 being dead doesn't change that.
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>>262557704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr-kR6xkwsA
this explains it
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>>262558246
Women don't care about muh sexualization. It's just trannies and cuckera homos. Just install TikTok or any social media and you'll see the shit teenage girls post is tame as shit compared to what we see in games. The real world does not shit its pants seeing midriffs. The real world encourages that shit.
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>>262558404
>the shit teenage girls post is tame as shit compared to what we see in games
I meant the reverse of course.
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>>262558404
d-do you mean tiktok is a way to get legal jailbait...
...bros...
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>>262558450
Where the fuck you been? Do you know why jailbait sites don't exist anymore? Because there is literally no need to when you can just install any social media app and follow the top followed girls.
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>>262558450
every social media site is a giant jailbait collection, at some point the government is gonna step in and impose an age limit like they do with cigarettes and booze
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Steve single handedly ruins the entire series
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>>262559119
that's a little bit clever
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>>262553029
>lee has great jabs
? his jabs have poor range, what's great about them?

>f3 which leads to insane damage
Without walls it leads to pretty average damage for a launcher and it hasn't got the great wall carry most of his juggles have. Maybe you think the max damage wall-less combo with 3 b2s does "insane" damage (69), but that's not really worth it as the timing for the f2,1 ender is quite precise in that case, and I think you can even get fucked pretty badly for dropping it. I'd say 66 damage (2 b2s) is what you'd go for offline and online you might settle for just 63 (1 b2). A great move though not denying that.

Just commenting on those two points, not on how good Lee is overall.
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>knee said akuma and geese are top 5
is it not fucking obvious 2d characters should be deleted
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>>262557838

>you either get up into a 50/50 or you stay down and the situation reset by ff4

t. 017er retard

You can evade ff4 by correctly techrolling and staying on the ground. You can evade all his 50/50 options by SSL and ducking/blocking. Absolutely nothing is guaranteed, the Kazuya player needs to guess your timing correctly and no Kazuya player can mind read. You're probably just a retarded who techrolls and stands up everytime he gets hit by a hellsweep and freezes up when a Kazuya wavedashes in.

Kazuya's archetype doesn't work in pro level play and that's why you see characters like Kazumi, Steve and Geese who are the complete opposite to Kazuya dominate. The character is as much of a coinflip for you as it is for the opponent. The most notable thing a Kazuya player ever did in tournament in this game was sent arslan to losers. What did it get him? A top 32 finish while Arslan went on to win the whole tournament with Kazumi.
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>ulsan playing jin
theyve corrupted the young boy........the jin mains shall pay for this
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>>262559119

How can you realistically balance Steve? His launchers already suck. They should just make the few lows he has more unsafe, Boxers aren't allowed to go for low blows. His pressure and CH game is already the best, make him take more risks with the lows he has.
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>>262557838
I didn't want to type a response to your retarded ass post but this anon >>262559770 already spoonfed you on why you're dumb so there you go
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>>262559852

>Ulsan playing another top 5 character

Yawn. Can't wait for this stale ass season to end already.
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/fgg/ is fucked, so I'm finally ready to move to Tekken. Who should I play, tekbros?
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Can someone tell me how hard the bears are to play?
Are they also that bad?
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>>262560081
NOCTIS LUCIS CAELUM, but in reality anybody you enjoy to look at and their moves.
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>>262560081
lars buffs soon my friend, get in now for a head start
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>>262551401
THIS PLEASE
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>>262560081
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>>262560081

Everytime I've been to /fgg/ there was absolutely no fighting game discussion going on. Just 90% cumbryans.
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>>262560081
Panda
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i had a dream i was cuddling with kazumi :(
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>>262560261
see >>262560163 plz
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>>262560081
kazuya, devil jin or heihachi
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>>262560081
Whoever you want baby, whoever you want

>>262560163
Bears are simple in theory but difficult to play well - they are not strong characters, however you will learn them relatively easily
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>>262560248
sounds based if you ask me
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>>262560081
Just play Akuma if you're already coming from SF
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>>262560163
For one they have really shitty side step due to t7 nerf movement and them being big bodied, they dont really have a bunch of super good moves or a strong 50/50 game. But its Kekken you can make anything work.
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>>262560163

Bears are borderline broken. Hunting bear stance is the most scary stance in the game and you see top level Koreans just content with eating the lows out of that stance all the time because the alternative is getting launched.

Bears have funky hitboxes that will frustrate your opponent to hell and back. Mishimas will have a hard time hellsweeping you. Absolutely no one who doesn't main bears knows the bear match-up. You can get away with murder in a tournament setting against top level players.

Just be warned, if you decide to pick up bears, you'll be hated and despised.
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>>262560298
You can easily fraud your way up higher ranks, the main problem with bears is that everything they have is unsafe so you gotta know the matchups well once people start figuring you out
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>>262560248
>>262560403
It's not even that any more. It's all EVO drama, complaining about women, and armchair lawyers.
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>>262560163
Not particularly hard to play, easy execution and medium gameplan. They're only really considered C+ tier because their unique strengths aren't as overpowering as some other characters, while also having unique downsides like bad movement and bear-specific combos - if they didn't have that, they would be solid B/B+ tier.
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>>262560484
>pad
lmao...
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>>262560484
the only good pad
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>>262560439
dont bears get hit by high damage combos that dont work on any other characters?
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>>262560658
Nah its still normal launch damage combo
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>>262560595
go away luffy
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Thanks anons for answering my bear questions
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>>262560658
Aside from a handful of particularly evil setups/combos, most bear combos at the very best only get ~15% to ~20% more damage than a regular combo.
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this kat player is buttfucking ulsan pretty hard rn, looking like a win
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VawQD8W9l8Q&t=10m25s

>Knee got permanent wrist damage from taking the mishimapill
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>>262560658
Absolutely nobody bothers learning those and if they did they'd have spent their time better actually learning the matchup, they're not a real problem.
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>tfw only played bears in tag 2 because their combos looked really cool and savage
>now in t7 they don't look much cooler than any other combo but i'm stuck with them
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>>262560847
i remember rangchu saying he picked up katarina specifically to fight ulsan
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Do you think the score girl plays tekken or is she just there for the 一万円
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>start game
>play 2 games
>start seething so hard I can't continue playing
>close game
>repeat 5 times a day
Fun experience, glad I picked this game as a hobby.
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>>262561076
not sure what that word means but kuro is definitely giving her the mating press
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Ha Ha Ha!
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>>262560847
>>262561068
but I thought katarina was just a meme character for beginners
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>>262561278
NA is the only region that sleeps on the character, no idea why
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>>262561189
he mentioned score girls get paid $100 or something, 一万 is about $100
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>>262561346
>100 to flip some cards
nah, shes handing out a mating press or 2 for those rates
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I just don't get how to electrics. I look up every guide and try to do as they say and nothing.
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uhhhh Kazumibros? wtf is happening...
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>>262561606
forward
down (optional if playing kazuya)
down+forward+2 on the same frame
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>>262561976
That's what I do man but either the input comes out faulty of I press 2 too early or it goes into normal fist.
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>>262561976
you're missing a neutral there chief
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>>262556736
I'm trying to understand what you're talking about here, but why would you do a move that gives them a million frames and guarantees your grab attempt will whiff? What's your angle?
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>>262561338
Nobody slept on her, she's just always been exactly what she is. A solid easy robbery character with risky lows. Lots of people from NA were playing her in s1 at the start but as time went on people realized you could play just as braindead with Kazumi without the risk. If you were gonna mash 4 and df1 why not do it on the character who has the better homing move and without the risky lows.
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>>262562151
If you're moving from forward to down without an inbetween input (ie df), there will be a neutral anyway unless you're deliberately trying to fuck it up

>>262562041
Well then keep trying. You'll get a feel for it
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>>262562340
if you're stickcuck
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>>262559957
As a steve main, nerfing RD2 would help a lot. The lows are annoying and they are relatively unsafe for the reward they give (outside of d2,1 DCK cancel which should probably get looked at, maybe make it so you can't duck at that point in the string), but steve having a reliable whiff punish, mid launcher that has the same range as sonic fang in rage is such a huge deal. Steve should have that weakness even in rage.
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How do you stop the anxiety of not pressing buttons from trying to steal a turn?
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WALK THROUGH DARK TO SEE THE LIGHT
I WAS BORN TO WIN THIS FIGHT
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>>262562602
Play steve.
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>>262562725
But I play yoshi
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ran a couple korean chats through google translate and was astonished to find out theyre almost as thirsty as the english ones
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>>262562817
Good
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>>262562407
Also pad is impossible to go from f to d without going into neutral.
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>>262562817
Just spam flash
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Does this general ever host tournaments or anything? I guess most of you are on PC right?
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>>262563182
no its not
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>>262563217
Not him, but I can imagine flash having issues with range if you're just spamming it out. You have to react to a situation where flash can do work.
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>>262563329
???
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>>262563217
Just because you can use flash as a counter that doesn't mean you can unga spam it like an asuka player
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>>262563507
???
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>>262563182
Going from f to d by (f, df, d) is easier than (f, n, d) on pad. Not a huge difference but it's just a more natural movement.
It can form a bad habit especially if they come from SFV or something where the inputs are super lenient so you never have a reason to do a clear f, d over f, df, d.
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>>262563614
But then you don't go from f directly to d. You go from f to df to d.
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>>262563348
You can spam it in NSS but since the recovery is so long you'll be punished every time
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>>262563264
No. we just shill e-ecelebs all day.
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Why does Kazuya wear a suit nowadays anyway? Why isn't his karate outfit his default?
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i think this nigga knee mad gay
chanel gay af
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how come a fighting game that has no tutorial at all is the most popular one
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>>262564657
Tekken is an old ass franchise. Pretty much everyone in the fgc played one at some point so they all know
I'm not defending the lack of it though, that's fucking retarded, among the lack of other stuff
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>>262564647
Everyone got new outfits in T7.
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>>262564647
At this point i honestly got sick of his karate outfit, most of the characters have had the same outfit since T1, its good to see that they gave them new outfits
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in-game tutorials are overrated since the community will make tutorials anyway. if tekken developers wanted make the rules of the game easier to learn a much better thing they could do is just to make it inherently more intuitive so there's less random stuff to memorize outside the game. Moves that look linear shouldn't track, moves that look like highs shouldn't be mids, there should be some kind of consistency in how recovery animations look and frame (dis)advantage etc. One step in the right direction is the CH sound effect for moves with special CH properties. In previous Tekken games, if you got CH launched you didn't know that it was because you got CH'd unless you were aware of that moves properties specifically. But in Tekken 7 because you hear the sound effect, next time you're put in the same situation you know that your opponent can't launch you with the same move if you move or block instead.
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>>262565316
lmao imagine donating to this goblino
at least pretty girls are pleasing to look at
this abomination wants to make you pay for looking at her ugly face fuck outta here lmao she even has a boyfriend like wtf who would want to do this shit
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>>262565316
private discord? im thinking shes camming bros
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>>262564657
I think the reason that Harada gave was that he didn't want to appear to burden the casual/party element of Tekken's fanbase with a deluge of ""required"" information.

If Chad Thundercock, who picked up the game to fuck around with his bros, opened up the movelist just to see which King moves are the sickest and ended up getting presented a 200 page breakdown on How To Play Properly, he'd probably just return it and never buy another one. On the other hand, anyone who WANTS to learn how to play Tekken properly can simply go online and easily find information that is 100x more helpful, detailed and versatile than anything anyone at Bamco could reasonably write.
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>>262565658
i wonder if her bf knows
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>>262565667
That was his reason for not having in-game frame data. It is a good argument for making the frame data hidden by default, but not a good argument for not including it at all. It still could be there, just so that it had to be turned on from somewhere in training mode options so that the numbers aren't immediately rubbing themselves in casuals' face.

A good reason for not including frame data in the game is the fact that PC has TekkenBotPrime so it's specifically PoS4 players who get fucked who obviously deserve it.
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>furumizu playing lei again
bros........
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Does Marduk have the best side movement in the game with in his stance? He goes very far
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>>262565667
>>262566235
oh and his reason for not having a tutorial is that apparently players just don't use them even if they ask for them
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>>262564657
>>262565667
Additionally, by not telling anyone shit, Tekken has fostered a community as a necessity to learn the game, resulting in what is essentially free discussion and community for nothing, something which other franchises sink hundreds of thousands of dollars into to drum up. Considering how up unti recent years tournaments have been nearly entirely fan-run just for the love of it, Bamco's hands-off approach is probably a deliberate choice
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>>262566235

Some moves are not even listed in the game.... i agree with Harada if TekkenBot didn't existed but it does and it's unfair to pos4 fags, how hard can it be to include it anyways.

>>262566485
This is probably true but some extremely basic tutorial for new players wouldn't hurt, just put in hit properties, grabs and launchers. It would be impossible to have a really in-depth tutorial or it would be extremely long and tedious when you think about the amount of bullshit there is.
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>>262566482
Yoshi spin
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>>262566295
>gets downloaded after 1 match
lmao
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>>262566482

Heihachi laughing step
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>>262566235
Read it properly >>262565667
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>>262559957
>How can you realistically balance Steve?
The way they did it in tag2. In tag2 df2 on counterhit would only give you a combo if you hit it from close or mid range,from long range df2 the combo didn'nt connect so you couldn't catch opponent's hitboxes across the screen for a full combo. df2 was also -9 while now it's -5 with perfect duk cancel. 112 was only +1 in tag with no transitions but now it's +8 if you do 112 into duk.
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>>262566482
Drag's dorky dark souls roll seems to travel pretty far
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>>262559119
Legitimately thought you were talking about tasty Steve
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>>262567171
It's actually pretty useless I think
Looks gangsta tho
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>>262567334
uh uh UUH
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>>262566482
King gets the same one
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What exactly am I meant to do once King grabs me? Is there a way to break out or do I just hope he's merciful and lets me go before I die?
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>>262567521
look up 'King chain throws', hit the lab and work it out
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>>262567420
DO ET AGAIN
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New thread?
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>>262567521
Learn his crouch dash chain throws, because they are his most used and they have simple paths. For everything else just mash 1 or 2.
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>>262485025
How do you start labbing a character vg? Tekken is the first game ever which actually made me go into lab because how fucking aggravating it is to lose against utter bullshit online.
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>>262568247
>>262568247
>>262568247
new
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>>262568180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaL1ulOIAvg
here's an example
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>>262568180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cwhFEyQqPE



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