Last Thread: >>262077323 Last time on /ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station:>players become dumber>byond got the DDOS>shitters self-shilling with screenshots of their """""accomplishments""""">What is Space Station 13?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTAhttp://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc >New player guidehttp://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basicshttp://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Helphttp://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Shortcuts >Roleplay Guideshttp://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/A_Crash_Course_In_Roleplayinghttp://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Space_Law>BYOND clienthttp://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/ >Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station serverbyond://game.ss13.moe:7777 >Test serverbyond://ss13.moe:1337 >Public server listhttp://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13>How do I connect to the servers?Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location">HELP CANT'T CONNNTECT???????You need at least version 512 to connect now. Try the latest beta first (through the BYOND launcher), it should be functional.If not, here's 512.1464 which is confirmed to be mostly unfucked http://www.byond.com/download/build/512/512.1464_byond_setup.zip >/vg/station forum and logs + Discord circlejerkhttp://ss13.moe/forum/http://game.ss13.moe/logshttps://discord.gg/c32NDYj >Map renders collection: updated sometimeshttp://game.ss13.moe/minimaps/images/maps/ >Coderbus, here!https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstationhttps://discord.gg/G468vcr>Round Statshttp://stats.ss13.moe/ >SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!http://ss13.booru.org/ >How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Moviehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o >Nostalgiahttps://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans >OP Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/raw/wxfcmd71
>>262322689First for SS14
Tell me about antag objectives. What's wrong with them, and why should I vote for their removal?
>>262323429because redtexting murderboners want to be greentexting murderboners
>>262324363And notext murderboner is superior?
>>262324407I thought we're talking about hijack/steal objectives, seems pretty natural that assassination objectives would stay in that case
>>262324521Far as I understood it, it's all solo antag objectives that gets removed, including assassination objectives.
>>262324651bad idea imoI'm not a fan of steal objectives either but I like hunting for one target and planning my assasination like in Hitman game
>>262324818That's why I'm trying to understand why I should vote for merge on http://ss13.moe/index.php/poll/195I don't understand why "Here's an uplink, go nuts" is better than what we have now.
>>262323429They are an incentive to either just do nothing and (((win))) as antagonist by taking the path of least resistance every time (ie, typebaiting, silent round depopulation feat. permanent round removal, etc etc)
>>262325325I realize the objective system is flawed, but what I don't get is how its removal would change things for the better.With no incentive to do something, anything, why would most people not just play the round normally, except with admin immunity and a bag of toys?
>talk to friend I haven't spoken to in a long ass time>SS13 gets brought up>tell him how bad tgstation has gotten, furries and trannies>"its fine long as you can still annoy them lol">reply I got banned for annoying them>"no one gets banned unless they're a shitter">"also lizard people are legit"
>>262325536I do believe that a blank state is better for any chance of getting "meaningful" objectives
>caring about objectivesmost of the time I'm traitor I don't even know what my objectives are.
>>262325706I don't really see how.At first, it might prompt people to get a bit more creative with their antagging.But in the long term? I think people are going to get lazy. With nothing to push them to do anything of note, I get the feeling that a lot of, if not most people are just not going to do much of anything at all.
People who say remove jecties are the same people who think open world games are good. Following objectives is entirely optional.Here's an open world reaction image: I haven't put any effort into it, but you can imagine it being ANYTHING.
>>262325932idk how but i survived as someone else and 2 out of 3 of my objectives were done so I consider that a win for a new fag like me
>crew armed to their teeth>armory is basically empty>everyone is packing>WGW gets posted entirely 3 times, nobody lynches the posterHow could you let this happen.
how do I emag a borg? do I use the emag on it twice or what?
>>262327154emag on borg to unlock its cover, crowbar it open, then spam emag on it till it works.
>>262327154Law 2, stand still, don't say anything, unlock your covercrowbar and emag
why are the admins never online?
>>262327721Because it's 4am
>join the bee newbie serer to learn the game>choose cargo tech since it seems both fun and easy>can never do my job because it takes a grand total of 30 seconds before the station goes to shit and people walk into cargo to yoink shit for themselvesSo this is the tidal cancer all the pros were afraid of? I understand.
>>262326402I found your brain and put it in a new body before it died from exposure
can we remove vox from the game autistic powergaming fucks
>>262330002I second this
>>262330409>>262330002you can hundred, you can thousand this and vox will not be removed.I see the only way out is to make vox killings unbannable.
nth for Sybil Dash and her ENORMOUS G-CUP TIDS that brush up against th
>geneticist>craft an IED for the lulz>wear a firesuit gas mask and hide my ID>roboticist is mad and searches me>no clues>actually i dropped my firesuit like a dumb nigger and i had no gloves on>he rushes in with a chainsaw and cuts me to bits
very ebin round hilarious clown haha
>>262325546>all of my friends must share the same values as me and be entertained the same way i'm entertained or they're shit head reddit faggots that aren't worth my friendshipGet a fucking grip.
how do I hack the mules to move faster? it's not on the wiki what light should I look for
>>262331703yeah I'm retarded I didn't read it fully
clown grief me pls ban he
STARTING UP since 8 minutes ago.Who of you fucked up the serb?
>>262331962it was me, the notorious hacker known as forchan!
I guess the clown from last round cut the power to the servers
>>262331962>>262332207is the fucker responsible atleast getting banned
it's all ogreit was fun boys, time to pack it inrip vgstation, we hardly knew ye
>>262332239No idea who he is or what he did.I would even bet it was fucking roid having a critical bug killing the server with mem overload or som shit.
threadly reminder that robosperg is an actual sperg.
lads, my wife wants to play this game with me but if she does that will mean we will connect with the same IP to the server and that will cause issues with the admins right? will the admins allow this if I ask it or will they tell me to fuck off? we are not gonna metagame or anything like that and will have our computers away from each other
If you click "observe" you can get onto the arrivals shuttle and see how the systems aren't inizialized at all
>>262332585>implying anybody playing this garbage has a wifeproofs or gtfo.
>>262332585ask her boyfriend's permission first
>>262322689What the fuck is that abomination in the webm supposed to do? It lacks radiation collectors and the shards are not ebing properly stimulated.
>>262332427We always knew that.Anne Hiro is one of the most atrocious shitters you could ever have on the manifest.
>>262332634the server is literally coughing blood
>>262332634And literally no admins on with tools to fix.
should I try vox trader or is it a bigger meme than clown?
>>262332924never play vox
>>262332912you can get into the game, so you can probably use admin tools to end the round
>>262333012but I wanna trade and the only way to do that is to be a vox jew
>>262324989Basically because it is kind of gay, most people ignore them completly and "just do you", and it is kind of distracting to the purpose of antags that is to antagonize the station and make the crew have a common enemy/threat to fight so that the game does not turn into a constant "do your menial job in the game after you are done doing your menial job irl" kind of game.It is silly, but the fact is that objectives as they exist are kind of stupid, you don't actually get anything from fullfilling them. Would be better if you got a reward like aditional TCs when you kill your target as a traitor, or a considerable cash reward you can use on the newly added black market.
>add Pomf Coins™>You get 1(one) Pomf Coin™ for each green text>Pomf Coins™ are saved between shifts>Pomf Coins™ can be used in praying, it's up to the deity to determine how many Pomf Coins™ they requirePros/cons?
>>262333046Doesn't fix the underlying problem, as the other anon just said, some part of the server is just not starting up. At worst that means you need the chicken who is prolly out of the coop right now.
>2563>walk into bar>battle of lil slugger starts playing
>>262333134>pray to deity>ask for X>deity aka lazy faggotmin checks your pomfcoin amount>"yeah sorry that'll be (your amount + 1)"
>>262333134pros>cons>prayers can now be metagamedyeah i don't think this one's good, my man
>>262333134And now you get jobbies who have antag disabled and have no coins when you literally need "fodder" like them. Terrible idea, would just make feel like shit for trying to just enjoy the rounds.
>emergency shuttle has docked with the station>everyone on shuttle>captain is not there>over comms :A CAPTAIN NEVER LEAVES HIS BURNING SHIP>as he sits in his office drinking and smoking himself to deathwould've been epic if his office was exploding as this was happening but it was just a lazy captain
>>262333506if the ship's not burning, then why did you jump into lifeboat?
>>262333506Left B Hind is objectively the best captain on the server.
>>262333737I mean it was burning but I meant if his office was burning too at the time the round ended it would've been a more epic moment but yeah if we go by RP it is safe to assume he died after the shuttle left
has a blob ever won a round in vg? seems really impossible to win when anyone can destroy you as you are immobile and if you are close to winning you can get nuked
>>262334006blob wins every time
>>262334006I've won several.
>>262334006I won my very first game of blob when I got it, I told the AI I wanted to give it a hug and popped on it.
>>262334147>>262334197from the wiki it seems pretty obvious to the crew a blob happened since the shuttle can't be called and it's an immobile little shit so can't security just blow their way through it?also what is the in lore explanation for the blob being such a calamity that a nuke is authorized when it's big enough? it doesn't seem that strong ingame
How to play Vampire:>;Wanna see something hot? Come to Chapel!>Walk into Chapel>Burn to ash
>>262334006Blobs snowball very fast, a good blob stops the crew from mounting an effective counterattack by attacking vital parts of the station.That and most people are headless chicken who gladly yolo suicide into a blob even depressurizing areas and killing their crewmates in the process.Also people don't like blowing the nuke.
Serb is alive
>>262334271Blobs infest huge areas of space where matter is abundant. Overminds make huge colonies of overminds and after a critical point they blow out millions of spores randomly containing nodes and sometimes overminds. To stop a huge colony from forming and spreading the infestation crew are authorized to nuke themselves.Blobs are also known to somehow infest humanoids, hence the AI quarantine.It's some kind of an alien mushroom.
>>262331616t. banned tg degenerate>>262333287+18 website kid, come back in another twelve years.
Vox are pretty cute deh-soo. Big chunky bird thighs.
>>262333069>most people ignore them completly and "just do youso whats the problem, isnt that what you want? no reason not to have some kind of vague direction so at least sometimes its not just serial killer in space
5 mins in the extremely shitty sprite editing program byond usesMostly to ask martian man why his shield looks nothing like an actual riot shield, only covers 3/4 of the area it should and seems to be falling to pieces.I quite like how his looks, more than this, which is more accurate, so I wanna know if he got the design from some cool anime or such
>>262335483Looks like a dude wearing a raggy old mask.
>>262335923Because it's a TOWER SHIELD and not a riot shield.
>>262336178>he doesn't know/vg/station is also /bara/station and /gmad/station. Imagine not wanting to fuck a vox.
>>262336242Looks more like a broken riot shield.You should call it that and add a cute anime bundle including it
>>262335923>>262336242Also you can just use whatever image editing program of your choice to make shit for spess, as long as you keep your sizes around 32x32 and hit the import button in dreammaker.
>>262336356wait you can? maybe ill sprite some cute sox for vox
>>262336308Fuck off, furfag. You only shitpost in the threads anyway.
>>262336456>he doesn't knowI'm a /vg/station regular. /vg/station is the furry station, and you'll never get rid of us.
>>262336497You're not. I would know. If you do practice your degeneracy in space, you don't do it on our server.Fuck off, shitlord.
>>262336497why is that a jpg
>>262336308>>262336497>>262336678>gets btfo>resorts to shitflinging, redditposting and pedophile weebpostingS E E T H E
>>262336971Furries aren't particularly bright.
>>262336678Fuck off to >>>/d/, degenerate.
Does the "starring as" count the person with the most words or the person who sent the most messages?
>Get put in sole command of the station>Round immediatly turns into Der Untergang
>>262342017most overpowered(obtainable) weapon in the game
>>262341224Sent the most messages
Marcus Murphy is cute! CUTE!!
reminder that valid hunters are faggots
Haven't played SS13 in like ages. How much has changed from last year?
>Let us raise requirements for every antag other than traitor>WTF, why is it traitors so often?
>>262345883"how did he get here"
Reminder that validhunters stop unrobust people from murderboning
>>262345964It's literally just not enough security players.
are miners allowed to make IED's for self defense while mining? also wiki suggests to use the lantern but the hardsuit already has built in light what gives?
>>262346168Why would you need IEDs?Lantern stacks with the helmet, though you won't notice it with the mesons.
>>262346168Miners already are morea heavily armed and armored than sec.
>>262346198for xeno morphs cuz i'm really shitty with combat as is
PRO TIP from sec main:When anybody dragging you - fucking REST for god's sake, otherwise you're blocking our shots and we can't get them.
>>262346278Good luck hitting a fast moving target with an ied when you cant even fuck shit up with just accelerators.
who of you c*ders made the vents super strong accidentally?
>>262346073t. banned paradise/tg/bay rapefuge>>262346128Absolutely based. What was the total body count?
>>262346260where do I find my weapons? I always see miners have weapons but I never found it
>>262347042Buy them from the automats located in cargo/mining, the warp voucher then transforms into a gun the moment you step onto the asteroid
I finally finished my Dwarf Fortress plants after weeks of procrastination. Before I get coding them I'm wondering if there should be any better way to implement them besides just quietly putting them in the contraband section of the seed vendor.
>>262347249Common-leaning mining drop
>>262346278Xenomorphs would outrun your IEDs. You won't see many on the roid, though.Goliaths and all the other roid fauna are best fought with kinetic accelerators, desu.
>>262347249Contraband would see them actually used, sticking shit in mining drops results in basically never seeing them, see: Xenoarch plants. You could also probably get away with giving them to the traders.
>>262345951things i remember>random antags rework to use datums>cult rework>viro rework>hardsuits come with retractable helmetsmaybe more. you can always read the changelog
very ebin round
>>262348491 Threat Level = 13.2571%
The revolver is an item from the Bay times and should have its damage lowered
best security would hire again
>>262348491>>262348579desu the real threat was the security.
>>262346198this, plus the suit's lantern has a battery that you'll have to recharge at suit storage
There is a very simple guide to security.If it has no gun, use your taser.If it has a gun, throw a flashbang and then tase/baton him when he is on the floor
wonder how many people ahelped when the assistant started toolboxing people
>>262348842an assistant was toolboxing people?
>>262348750there's an even simpler guide to security.Make blunderbuss, load it with 10u of welder fuel, put bolas in, wear that on your body armor.Why, you might ask? Because blunderbolas are hitscan and if you click on their sprite they can't dodge it. They don't fly like slowass taser, they hitscan and fuck up people and drop them. And if they manage to get up BEFORE you tase them? They're slow as quadruple amputee.
>>262348947yeah the antag was an assistant and started by toolboxing people at medbay
>>262349391somebody spoon feed me the hog meme
>>262347249botany premium vend is a water flower, a fucking clown meme spray itema dwarvern goods package in the premium for botanyvend would be nice
>Try to play on tg>Clown>Chaplain decides he doesn't like me and kills me with his dumbass chainsaw arm>Get kidnapped by a viro while I'm in crit and he locks me in a cell and gives me aids before I die>AI sees this and a ton of people show up to retrieve the body, including the chaplain who just keeps trying to convince everyone to do shoot me into space>The viro makes them all wait like 5 minutes while he cures the aids he gave me and that they all now have exposed themselves to>Finally getting cloned, some fucking plasmeme goes with the chap and cremates my "diseased" body, along with all my shit>I finish cloning and the chaplain is right there waiting for me>When I disarm him, he screams that he's being killed and murders me again>Round ends>It was cult, no other antags>Not one person involved in this was related to the cult in any way>High pop, no admins onwew
>>262351793>>Try to play on tglol dumbass
>>262351793Some people are retards.In other news, space is black and sparkly, water is wet and vox are bumfuck retarded.
>>262346323>not wanting a personal shield
>>262349030thanks for the powergayman tip faggot
>>262347249>just put it in a vendor lmao
>>262332924the key to trader is selling services instead of goodsMy best trader gimmicks have been>opening a casino on the salvage shuttle>lobbyist>investment banker >fortune teller>salvage shuttle space tourism>selling life insurance>etc
>>262351058>>262352046why do we call them premium items when any miner can make a bazillion iron coins and distribute them to the commoner for any price (including free)?
>>262352208That's why I was asking for a better way of implementing them.I'm planning on making more stuff like the dwarven liquors and some unique mixed drinks using them too, so I wouldn't want them to be too hard to get.
>>262352046>>262352208>unable to cope at all>unironic faggotkek
>>262351856It has some cool shit manDon't judge me
>>262352667You can always sprinkle them around. One as map loot, one as random drop for clearing grass, one for traders, and so on
>>262351058Would it be like, "Box of Dwarven Seeds" and just give you a cardboard box with >Quarry Bush>Plump Helmet>Pig Tails>Sweet Pods>Dimple Cups>Cave Wheat>Floor Fungusseeds in it?That would be a full cardboard box, and it would move plump helmets from contraband to somewhere else.I'm wanting to make all the dwarven food slightly alcoholic, so like>Dwarven sugar (from grinding sweet pods) contains ethanol and sugar>Dwarven flour (from grinding cave wheat) contains ethanol and flour>Dwarven syrup (from juicing sweet pods) contains ethanol and maple syrupI also want to add Dwarven cheese which is alcoholic, maybe take a page from a popular Dwarf Fortress mod and make a way to turn goats in Boozebelly Goats, which have a manly beard and give Dwarven Cream when milked (which is just Irish Cream but Dwarven)I know that dwarven crops and food aren't alcoholic in Dwarf Fortress, but I feel like this would make them a bit more unique and deserving of their "premium" status, rather than being yet another food item that is in the game just because.
the best wife is a good engine, who's your favourite engine wife and how high can you get her power output?my personal best is about 8.7 gigawatts on the supermatter but I can comfortably hit 1 gigawatt
>>262352780What did he mean by this?
>>262353987ameroundstart set it up turn on one sme
>>262353073thanks, now I know my target sprinkles
>>262352148if you don't powergay as security - you're doing it wrong.
>>262353987All engines are dumbThe only good one is the goon thermo, because it's made of esoteric demon magic that is as likely to shoot blasts of flame at an unwitting new player as it is to actually provide power
>>262355160>goonyou absolutely must go back, abhuman
>>262355160>All engines are dumbwhy tho?
>>262355972Calm down, furfag
>>262356391>projecting this hardk e k
So we have art for these plants in game, except the seed packets are dated and not in style with the rest of the seed packets in game. I made modern style seeds for them.How would you feel about meat plants being put back in? Maybe as a contraband item, or found in exotic seed crates like how you can get normal liberty caps and kudzu from exotic seed crates, for the synth meat plant, then have the butt and brain plants be mutations from the meat plant?
>>262356725Meat plant is interesting, could be useful for the kitchen and for cloners, assplant is just going to be a meme.As for the brain plant, brains are pretty useless when they don't contain a soul, it would be interesting if brain plants could be used as a way to get players back into a round, like Dionae but needing monkeymen/empty bodies to transplant into.
I miss when rounds were good like this.
>>262357287>200 line greentext about himselfsad
>>262357445I wasn't even alive for 90% of that round, shitposter.
>>262357621>himself>somehow read as yourselfinteresting
>>262357013Well, brain cakes heal brain damage. And I mean, letting the chef make more memes isn't really that bad is it?It's not like we can't already make a monkeyman and hook them to a clonex IV to get oodles of synthmeat, the meat plant would be kind of redundant honestly, but it would be nice to not have to 1) consume monkeys and 2) bother medbay when you want meatWe just need to be able to make faggots out of synth meat instead of only human meat and monkey meat so spaghetti and meatballs can become more common.I was figuring since we already have the sprites in game, why not re-implement them.
>>262357013>it would be interesting if brain plants could be used as a way to get players back into a round, like Dionae but needing monkeymen/empty bodies to transplant into.>put dead brain, synthbrain and tinfoil hat in the microwave>turn it on>soul is transferred to the synthbrain ready for revival because... microwave ray magic?
>>262357287>climb onto tablecool larp bro
>>262358085>tinfoil in microwaveshould cause a welderbomb desu
>>262357945I think the problem with the meat plant you mentioned lies more in the fact that refilling cloners is trivial as all hell.Cloners have a meat requirement to penalize cloning with resource consumption, but then they make providing the resource trivial by having a chemical reaction that produces meat, made from a common medicine and blood, which are both extremely abundant in medbay, the place that needs that resource.Cloning is fucking busted.
>>262358417It doesn't destroy microwaves though, it just makes magic rayshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhpndQJkNk0
>>262358446So would you advocate for removing the clonex+blood reaction = meat and force people to rely on a botanist/scientist doing xenobotany to get meat for cloning?I'm totally all for nerfing cloning, honestly.
>>262354162>>262356391>>262357445>>262357661>>262357680>>262358189This is what zero-t, paradise brainlet shitposting looks like.
tfw everyone is always so incompetent that you can't tell when they're doing it on purpose
>>262358945Calm down, furfag
level 7 biohazards should have no fucking vaccinesonce spawned by an admin it should be the end of the station as survivors try to wall themselves in to survive as long as possible the vaccines make an interesting event really shitty
>>262358795Yes, 100%, everything that nerfs cloning in one way or another is good in my book, because it, as well as many other things in this collectively imprompu-designed game, is fucking busted to shit, and the longer it remains busted, the more things will be added/built-upon that hinge upon it being busted.
>>262359360i've no clue who or what diety is
>>262359654t. diety falseflagging as a newfagkys
>>262359687I am genuinely confusedI guess diety means admin?
>>262358795>Orders monkey cubes>Kills them for meat>Breeds dogs for meat>Stuffs people I cloned in the cloner for meat>Etc
>>262359687you speak as if you desperately need big thick blue vox [male] cock in your mouth right this absolute instant
>>262359763sure you are if you are so new you dont know who diety is you should shut the fuck up and play the game before whining about balance>>262359887shut up diety
>>262359324t. dylan>>262359887fuck off veers
I've been playing for 5 days now and have yet to see bannanium does it even exist? I really want to make a H.O.N.K
>>262359324The fact that vaccines are so easy to get is stupid as shit to begin with.As it stands, Deity's rework gives you an easily reachable variety of vaccine antibodies, so instead of researching a vaccine that works with a specific illness, you can just mix together the pieces of universal vaccine you need to cure that illness.It's pretty poor depth all things considered, but because Deity is an autistic shit that can't control himself, he gave everyone a bad taste in their mouth for the rework, so anything that would make viro more difficult will be met with strong resistance.Thanks deity.
>Chick runs up to me and hits me with nova flower, instacritting me>Drags me to tubes to heal me>Doesn't steal any of my shitQuite confusing. Wasn't an antag so maybe it was a weird attempt at a prank, hitting someone weak to fire with a weapon that does fire damage?
262359183>I have no argument, so I'll just brainlessly regurgitate my non-argument shitpost for the billionth time as my NPC programming dictatesNo free (you)s for you retard
>>262360023>Yes of course an event must end the round>The round of all people? No, a small clique of nonhumans with roundstart suits are protected as well as hardsuit ablinosForced plasmaflood and singuloose when?
>>262357287post more clown stories
>>262360023What has deity to do with people not wanting viruses to be even harder to cure?
>>262360021It exists, I just don't think it spawns on the asteroid. I saw it in some space rocks when I got teleported out to deep space one time.
just read the ahelp logs to see that botanist justify his shittery to the admins, wewi don't get how he didn't cop a note for that round
>>262360023what the fuck is diety I'm really confusedis it a shitty admin? I am genuinely a new player and am not falseflaggingjust had a round where a cool story was ruined by vaccines being made literally 3 minutes after the biohazards were spawned if you want the story (this was 2 days ago)>be me newfag janitor on box station>find vault hacked open, find nuclear fission device and examine it >call security>he says don't worry this nuke will only ever need to be detonated if a level 7 biohazard gets out of control>guess an admin was listening so right as he finishes his sentence level 7 biohazards happeend>that autistic vox doctor static guy makes vaccines literally in 2 minutes and keeps kicking me out from medbay cuz he slipped when I was cleaning what could've been a cool story was ruined by an autistic vox player is all I was confused as why the nuke is even needed if an autistic fuck can make immunity vaccines in a minute I tried to clean the virus using those goggles the janitor gets that let you see pathogens but I failed cuz I had no space cleaner and water did nothing
>>262360151Jesus Christ, learn to read.I never stated that L7 illnesses shouldn't be curable, just that vaccines should be less trivial to mix.Also, fuck Vox, remove roundstart suits.
Connection closed AAAH
>>262360023Viro should be ez-mode to begin with.
>>262360378how do you see the ahelp logs?
we 2018 pop now
>>262360385sorry it wasn't box station it was packed station*there was a vault at the top left of the station that was hacked open and had nukes gold and silver in it
Reminder that all humans should submit to the BIG BLUE COCK. Vox are the superior species in every concievable form and fashion. Humans only good use is as cum dumpsters for Vox cocks. >>262360410code it
>>262360246Only had that one, and it was the first and last time the Clown wasn't an absolute turbonigger to rival robosperg sadly. A shame that serber is dead now. Had some good code but the badmins were right cunts.
uh are you guys able to connect? I can't seem to be able to connect to the server
>>262361086Dead on my endGuess we gotta rev up the viking funeral for the serb.
>>262360870i meant in general my man, doesnt have to be the same server
just a reminder that the majority of current vox mains are located in the ERP metaclubreminder that (you)r favorite vox barkeep waifu is a disgusting ERPer alongside multiple other degeneratesreminder that the ERP metaclub exists and multiple of its members play here
>>262360282Deity made the recent rework, and because he seems to be an arrogant narcissist, he wants his reworks to be front and centre to the game, and by that he gives them extremely broken values that get toned down after everyone starts yelling at the autistic shit.He made Viro broken and difficult to start with and soured the optics of it to the wider userbase until he nerfed it, so any changes that make viro more impactful, even if they're interesting, will be met with strong resistance because people have the bad experiences burned into their minds.>>262360385Deity is an active programmer and admin (?) on /vg/station and he has made a name for himself by programming major reworks to bad or neglected game mechanics.He reworked the cult gamemode and the virology department, making them much more intricate and better-looking.The problem is that he seems to be an attention-seeking autist with his reworks by making them extremely broken/impactful, so that they take center-stage to every round.Cult 3 was a long-awaited update but after it came out, everyone started hating it because the cult is extremely powerful and made rounds uninteresting, to the point where observers would post in the thread to warn people about the mode being cult, fucking it up through spreading meta-knowledge.He seems to have a good heart but he's dense as fuck too.>>262360489No it shouldn't, if it's ez-mode then why does it even exist?Things should exist for a purpose.
how do I crawl? ive seen some people hit the floor and crawl to get around
>>262359810So what you're saying is that removing clonex+blood=meat would really just be a small nerf to cloning?I don't see any reading not to do this then.
>>262361456someone posted a list of ckeys located in the ERP server discord and it included bungofungo aka xidritichi aka disgusting vox bartender and old stale meme waifuthese people should be banned on general principle and would not have been considered acceptable in the old days
>>262360814tfw no vox bf
>>262361757I do know how to use the rest command and my character lays down but how do I move when I do that?
>>262361286I'm afraid I have no further greentexts to share.
>>262361864Literally click the ground around you
>>262361983Hey, thanks for the reminder.PORT TG'S CRAWLING MOVEMENT WITH THE DIRECTIONAL KEYS, IT'S MORE INTUITIVE AND REMOVES THE BULLSHIT WITH CRAWLING ON CONVEYOR BELTS BY ALT CLICKING.
how do you wield things with two hands? wiki says some weapons do more damage when you do that
>>262362271This is more of an exception than a rule, the only weapon I know of that has this is the fire axe, everything else can only be used with one hand.
>>262361810literally a fate worse than death
so server fully dead again?
>>262362541pretty sure byond is dead in general right now
tfw no irl human bf
>>262362579I guess you could say it's byond saving.
>having byond issues>uninstall>reinstall..>some brazilian monkey is ddosing byond.com
>>262361412>>262361456prove it anon... post his big, thick, twitching dick
>want to mingle with the high RP people>they are all part of the ERP metaclubfuck me
>>262362714MOM I GOT BANNED SO IM GONNA WASTE 500 DOLLARS ON A SHITTY HACKER GROUP TO DDOS A SERVER OK? WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE CAN'T AFFORD TO EAT IT'S IMPORTANT MOMthis interaction was translated from monkey speak
>want to mingle with the high RP people>they are all part of the ERP metaclubi can't wait for them to fuck me
tfw no irl admin bf
>>262362714I can't believe Pun Pun hacked the serb.
>>262363125every server is deadsome monkey has a grudge against the whole of byond
AHELP: Pun Pun is DDoSing medbay
>>262361421current cult is funny since only like less than 1/10th of the cultists ever actually even vaguely want to win and the end is gated behind numbers so you get some powergamers who do all the work in every stage but that then still losethe fact nearly all fun tools for cult scream ''its cult'' including just communicating means a lot don't want to ''the guy who outed cult'' even if they want to try tooand then you have the cult base system just fucking sucking.they put it in maint, most jobbies cant go there easilythey put it in sci, only sci has access, etcits a team antag where nearly every aspect servs to alienate you from the team and you never have any incentive to work together or even do anything because you can mass produce better chloral syringes that ignore all armor and convert anyone through protection and deconversion isn't a thing anymore. so yolu may aswell just ignore being a cultist until the end and then maybe go dance on the stone so you dont get bwoinked for not bothering.
>>262362714Why are those apes even allowed electricity, let alone to shit up the net?
>>262363156just admit you play clownyou'll only get fucked with getting shuned from the srs hrp klub
for cult to be fun it needs>stun talimsan nerfed. lower duration and it can't affect someone already affected by it, you need to actually strip and cuff like most fucking solo antags do you lazy cunt>the conversion rune isn't an infinite duration stun and silence>remove pale ghost entirely no way a team antag should be able to make every fucking member stun immune>remove jugg dash>remove jugg damage immunity so you dont have to powergame to even hurt it>remove wraith jaunt and replace them with a construct that doesn't literally just kill ai for free then act as a worse jugg>give all constructs night visiongive all cultists a channelable ability they can use for free to go to their base (the main alter) after a delay while stood perfectly still and not in cuffs, that's the only way to make most people bother because otherwise they just ask ''where is base'' and get no fucking answer>allow deconversion via water again. It should not be rng or rely on someone joining as chap, an rp role, so he can valid hunt this snowflake bullshit.>give people the option to become a filled soulstone when converted, not just cultist or a box>give a power to delete the box so you don't end up with this ''its cult'' item on you whenever anyone resists>equalize the bloodless races so both need outside blood or both don't, as is one needs blood and the other gets free casting for no reason>change the forge so it doesn't burn you with weird special snowflake fire that ignores weakness and resistances and serves no purpose but making it akward for people who want to support cult without becoming a construct>in general nerf fucking everything so cult requires teamwork and a fucking assistant can't stun cap in full cap armor and convert him through loyalty 5 mins into the roundIts stupid how cultists have less weaknesses, better stuns, more tools, cheaper conversions, more powerful allies and telepathic coms while vamp a solo antag dies for touching chaplain tiles for free
>>262363175Ex-admins count right
>BYOND is downAAAHHHHH YOU FUCKING CUNT
>>262363878>tfw you just wanna play chef but BYOND is fucking dead
Spreaking of cult, anyone else have an issue with it where plasmemes never show the cult sign? I literally never see it on them. Every other race is fine
>>262363110Just go talk to people, I really want to talk to other people that actually try RPing. I like high RP servers but sometimes I just like the stupidity you get on /vg/
>>262363770Cult will NEVER be a good or fun mode. The only reasonable and correct answer, is to remove it wholesale from the code.
>>262363770all these ideas, save a handful of them, are shit
>>262363878>>262364035I just launched the game normally what are you fags talking about?
>>262364186Unironically replace it with TG ravtar cult. That did the ''make an armory of snowflake shit to murderbone'' thing better than what we have now because they did have ways to locate their base without hoping someone speaks, better comms, more fun tools and even let the borgs have fun with powers.
>>262363957oh I was the roboticist in that round and was asked to borg him and had no clue how the fuck to do the surgery so I asked the head of security to cut their head offthat was the 300 ping autism lag round where I literally wasn't able to move half the roundi was pretty confused by him acting like a giant faggot and really thought he was an antag for a second
>>262364230it just came back up. it was down for the last 20 minutes
>>262363770Based and braveUnfortunately will never see the light of day
>>262363957Rule 0 bans for those shitters and robosperg when?
is there a way to check if you have notes on you?
>>262364586just ask an admin
>>262364586ask an admin bvia ahelps
>>262363770>>262364575>cuck cult shitter samefaggingHow humiliating this must be for you.
@dietyno you for you fag nice shit mode you got
we're back probably
>>262364579they'll just appeal again by writing a sappy story how they learned their lesson and want to change.
>>262364832Cult is a bad mode by design but it could be made a lot better if it was more symmetric
AHEMfuck cargo and fuck their autistic vox in chief that is all
>>262365109What I want to know, is who's the literal glue eating retard(or retards as the case may well be) who keeps unbanning the R0'd shitters and letting robosperg continue to drag down the serber?
>>262365815>not killing vox on sight immediatelyYou brought this upon yourself.
>>262365815don't act mad when you're the one who ordered the vox mating press locker in the first place
I don't understand how can someone playing a head in this game or just security let a role in a fucking rp game get so much to their head that they act like such giant faggots towards other players how pathetic does someone have to be? or is intentional for "RP"?
>>262365829Well, robosperg had been permabanned on pretty much a "straw that broke the camel's back" basis, as they had a very, very long rapsheet, yet no recent bans. So the original banning headmin reviewed yet another incident, and applied the ban.The player then played on Bay long enough to get a voucher.It should be noted that robosperg wasn't banned for being impolite, or for being a shitty antag, as those weren't explictly bannable. (being a shitty antag is something that really doesn't make consensus on the admin team and as such is dealt with on a case by case basis ; robosperg shitty antagonism was never brought up so I guess this detail was never taken into account).Robosperg was banned for being a killbaiting, banbaiting asshole who would delight in murdering people over the most trivial of occasions. In that regard, the player did change inasmuch as this was not noticed again.There is a painfully obvious inertia with dealing with the "what kind of antagonism breaks rule 0 and rule 1" with arguments from both sides. If you believe admins aren't talking about it, you're wrong, it's just that they can't really get in agreement.
>>262366821>or is intentional for "RP"?yes.
I wanna play as a plasmameme next rounda couple of questionshow do I get replacement plasma to breathe? is the x2 damage thing that big of a deal? do I get a compensation buff for those bad things?do I have the option of wearing a hardsuit? cuz I wanna play mining
>>262367674engineering has plasma cans, cargo can get plasma cans and plasma suitsyou will get fucked by brute but in return you dont have blood to bleed to death and burns like lasers or shocks do reduced damage
U N G A
Robotics was fun, but I think it's about time I went back to space law. Thank you to all the miners who put up with my incessant requests for minerals.
>>262368176since vox talk like retards how do plasmameme talk? like do they talk coherent english(for rp)? do they also have a special language only they understand?
>>262367154>The player then played on Bay long enough to get a voucher.How does that even work? Why does that grant known, proven and incorrigable turbokikes a free pass to return and begin anew their cancerous bullshit?Is Pomf really THAT fucking stupid?
>>262368648bay has much stricter rules than vg so if you can play there and get a voucher from them that means you can follow vg's lighter rules
>>262368648the theory is that by playing on bay long enough then somehow you can handle playing in an environment that grants you much more freedom than bay doesin reality, it just proves you can go unnoticed enough to get some dumb schmuck from bay's admin team to go 'oh well okay' since they just outright haven't noticed you and figure that that's enough to say yeah have a voucher from us, then return to /vg/ where you continue to be a fucking tumor
>>262368762And that's worked out just so well hasn't it?
>>262368937I'm just telling you their reasoning behind it I am personally neutral on this policy
>>262368878Yeah. Pomf really IS that fucking stupid. Holy shit, competent, quality server host and admemes when?
well that went from zero to fucksville pretty fast
>>262368572they stutter like fags
>>262334006as long as you're secluded and build a strong defense from the inside of the station, it's hard to lose. open a hole to space and suddenly half the crew can't even fight you. i personally focus on resource nodes over the spawners since they're super easy to kill.
>>262361421fuck off shifty
>>262369396Why don't you host if you're so great?
>>262357013>Meat plant is interestingredundant seeing how hydroponic's biogenerator can already print meatmake it give you "rare" meats for specific dishes instead, like chicken, carp, spider and suchyou don't like the harvest just pop it into the biogenerator and make it into more synthmeat
>>262371195Why don't you fuck my ass if you're so great?
Remember that time when I took the OP to shill my new server and you all got me banned for it?Enjoy your server you fucking pricks, this is the future you chose.
>>262371312Why don't you suck my cock if I'm so great?
>>262360021find the Derelictthe remnants of clown planet should be nearby
>>262371039That's not me, even though I agree with that based and wise poster
>>262366821Sometimes people are just nig nogs, I used to let it get to my head as a sec player, then realized that if I brig someone for like 5 minutes for something stupid, then i'm just a turboshit taking away their funThats why I only brig people that are trying to either fuck up someone elses round, they're being giant niggers when I tase and cuff em, or they have committed the greatest sin of all: spare ID theftAs I always say, spare rushers deserve the rope
>>262371195You turboautists couldn't handle my shit
This thread is so full of redditors and newfags nobody will know what Sapporo station is
>>262371797wow that sounds easy, like so easy Scientists can power game the roid in 5 minutes to get Phazons
>>262371260Chicken can not be considered rare, you can easily mass produce it by ordering a single crate from cargo.
>>262373004Indeed they can, but most of the current scientist mains are dumb sethfags that are unable to.
>>262373005also vox can give you seeds that spawn literal eggs
>>262371260>Chickenvox can become these, plant these, anyone can order them>Carpcan be ordered via black market en masse for cheap>Spiderone map spawns with a million of them>And suchSuch as what
Cult forging should just be an upgrade to regular blacksmithing equipmentThere should also be a holy counterpartAlso port purified soul stones and constructs from tg
>>262374118Based and brave
>See rune on shuttle>Think surely, must be a prank>Cultedfuck
Stealth nuke ops is so much fun! Using the chameleon projector is surprisingly effective when the station is in chaos. Nobody even noticed a moving bullet casing.
>>262374363No fuck off. Blacksmithing takes actual effort. It should be better than cult ''i summon a sword out of monkey blood lol'' bullshit
>>262372086only brigging for big crimes is mega turbo lame. drug posts and swat raids for dumb shit is peak ascended security
>>262375206cham projector is strong to the point of being overpowered. I can't ever tell if a moving piece of trash is a buss or a cham projector.
>>262374118I hope you did everything in your power to completely fuck up the round.>>262375139Thank god you can still use the suicide verb and spare yourself the round.
>>262375303I'm not suggesting a change to the actual blacksmithing process, other than an addition to itIt's really more of a thematic nerf to cult
CULT DODGERS ARE IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT
>>262377067>spawn in as traitor>accidentally welderbomb myself trying to break down a wall surprised I wasn't banned
>>262377227why would you be banned? you can welderbomb all you want
>>262377227As long as you did not kill your teammates it is fine, you can die like a noob all you want and no one will give a shit.
lads what leads people to valid hunt? what is the fun in that? is there a hidden reward for killing an antag noone else is seeing? isn't valid hunting the antag for no reason ruining the round and forcing the admins to bus in other autism to destroy the station?
did anyone enjoy the game ending pizza nuke earlier? it was fun setting it up in the bus before arriving not gonna lie
>>262377759Look at it this way...A wizard summoned guns, suddendly the whole station is made of survivors that are carying guns and a free pass to kill anyone they see. If you try to be friendly and team up with other survivors they WILL shoot you dead and take your guns, so you have no choice but to treat them all as hostile.Is it wrong to validate other survivors under such retarded conditions? It is either you or them and you can be daamed sure they will pick THEM.So it is not so much that it is fun, it is more that if you don't do it you will be validated yourself.
lads what leads people to post on thread about cult? what is the fun in that? is there a hidden reward for revealing an antag noone else is seeing? isn't threadposting about cult for no reason ruining the round and making people call the shuttle to leave the station?
>>262377759Some people just like "winning". When they "win", they call the shuttle so that they can reset the round and "win" again.
>>262378054I meant more like a crew member without any reason to going out of their way to hunt down an antagonist they believe is on the station and shooting them dead even tho mister head of medical should have no business hunting down someone who bombed arrivals and should be doing their job that mixed with game knowledge to know who did it and just fuck them up
>xidritichi is an ERper disgusting 0% pure waifuwho is the next big waifu vox?
>>262378104people hate the cult for some reason and almost always reveal them on the thread and ruin the round when they figure it out
>>262377759I don't validhunt in as much as I like to keep the antag alive (perma, borged, awaiting trial, just stripped of his weapons...)However I do like to protect people and ensure the station is safeOne could ask the same question as to what leads people to silently depopulate
>>262361421>everyone Speak for yourself, faggot frog
>>262378345Well, it makes total sense to hunt down an escaped cat beast simply because they are disgusting and you will be swarmed by high threat antags if you don't kill it fast.
>>262363770So many shit ideas, shifty kill yourself. Your gay security era is over.
>>262378607shifty knows about deity tho t. shifty lives rent free in my head as much as I live in his
>>262378514>peopleIt is just one autistic guy that got dunked by cult once
>>262379307Whomst>>262378607>>262379134This isn't me
>>262379556Well it's going to be to get a reliable stat on that
redpill me on shifty and deity
>>262380025first is a gay coder secmain frogsecond is a coder frog
>>262380025Bicker like an old married couple
ahemFUCK voxand FUCK vox barsthe bar shouldnt be some pissy little bitchboys playground with fancy lighting and 'comfy' makeout holes, it should be filled with blood, corpses, trash, and general unpleasantness from the amount of people in there only shit bartenders make "comfy" barsits time someone sottped sucking these fags dicks just because they may 'fancy' bar where nobody visit, fuck vox bars and fuck vox bartenders
>>262378104It's objectively an awful and un-fun game mode.
>>262377227Welder bombing yourself as a solo-traitor is a time honored tradition.
>>262382946and be sure so have your emag and stetchkin in your backpack so you won't be cloned
>>262382135t. that one guy who got mad people didnt go in his roach bar and got demoted from a fucking joke job
>>262382135Show us on the doll where the vox shotgunned you.
>eat one honeycomb>nearly puts me into crit>eat another one>heals most of the damageDid I get bipolar bees or something?
>arrive at space station as a bartender>your memory clears up and you remember your identity as a syndicate sleeper agent>mission specifications detected, welcome to the syndicate>walk to bar>all my glasses were stolen so cant serve shit>clown comes asking for blood ???>get my shotgun>keep being a sleeper agent playing as a normal bartender>random fucker comes in>want to try your luck??>sure>gives me a 20 sided dice>roll it>my arms fucking fly off in an arc>go to medical>all doctors are dead>a fucking security of all people wants to do surgery on me>tell him my arms are gone>he proceeds to cut off my fucking legs>i tell him to kill me>he says no>i'm a traitor kill me (in so much pain my character's speech is retarded so he probs didnt get it)>i will kill you then clone you>mashes me to death in the chest with a fucking circular saw>clones me>hes too retarded to notice the syndicate items on my corpse>too retarded to put me in safety>leaves me in place with no oxygen>someone comes to help me>he wants to get my gear from my old corpse to me>finds the syndicate shit>runs away and says help yourself>at this point im on the floor unable to even interact with my oxygen tank>tell him there is a gun in my bag>shoot me>he shoots me>I dieand that was my story on how the syndicates plans were ruined by a fucking dicethat fucker who shot me took my Emag and my weapons and I assume he made it to the shuttle
Where the fuck do I find cute shoes and or soxI found cute things for every slot but that
>I just mist formed into AI core as catbeast clown vampire and killed it with a crowbarWhy is Vamp so fucking busted OP.AI had to do all that work and I just press two buttons.
>>262384084The person who tried to help cloned you was trying to give you an oxygen tank and a mask, and set your internals so you don't die of oxygen deprivation. After four failed attempts at setting your internals because you kept moving, I just thought fuck it you deal with it
>>262384246>Calling something op because it dunks on aiAnything can dunk on ai because ai is inherently completely unable to defend itself when you are in its little room outside of flashes.
my mission on citadel is complete, i have been vored by the clown, and have served jizz drinks as a mime
>>262384307Even at low levels it starts dealing damage, I want my money back from that vox
>>262384409I was blinded for most of it so kept moving randomly cuz I had no idea what was going onit was hilarious to me even if my own retardation played into it
>>262384416pacid spray turret controller after disabling turrets then thermite 1 wall to enter its safe space. how is malf even real hahaha
>Remove antag objectives is winning 2 to 1So, everyone who rolls for antag roles, what will you do differently when it goes through and you no longer have objectives to follow?
>>262384409also I was already dying from pressure anyways so I p much just gave up at that point
>>262384716>following objectives ever has antag
>>262384763most of the objectives are just boring fetch quests anyways so I don't see the point
Am i missing a lot of servers that dont show up on the serverlist ?
>>262384716What ever will we do without the people that steal the blueprints with no CE, kill one dude, then afk in the pods for the entire round
>>262385086only the third one.
>>262385086I prefer to remain incognito, rather than hide, as long as I can as antag. But if someone, somehow, discovers my crimes or they find a body?COWABUNGA IT IS and the gloves come off.
>>262384716i'll just murderbone more randomly than before since I have fuckall else to do, which will be worse probably
>>262384716I'll probably keep trying to perfect my mecha rampage if I roll robotics. If I'm a lawyer or an IAA, I'll go maximum stealth and start fucking with people. I'm talking shooting them with an E Crossbow then hiding in plain sight as a cigarette butt.
This is your admin and coder, say something nice about them!
>>262384716i dont read my objectives and i usually make deathtraps that punish greedy people
>>262384246fuck AI's, they deserve everything bad that comes to them
>>262386092I was the IAA who told them off. It's kinda sad how people just ignore spess law.
>>262386092Hey SemHow's Ashley doing
>>262386092(((handled in discord)))
>>262386092>sonix still hasn't an hero'dThey really, really need to get on that asap
>there are people in this universe getting salty and having slap fights over a roleplaying game with no real winning or losing
>>262386092I totally agree with him to, deh-soo. Don't dish out what you can't take. Tide nowadays always wants to act like gangsters till its time to do gangster shit, then suddenly they're whining about the law and how unfair it is for them to be in perma and whine-moan-bitch 'shitcurityyyyy'.Tide nowadays is all a bunch of bitch-niggers.
>>262384716Try to come up with a fun gimmick, like singuloosing 5 minutes in!Jokes aside I would probably take more hostages, try and rp some shit out
Friendly reminder: Always spray/throw pacid in the clown's face and at every opportunity. Ditto Vox niggers>>262386487Why are greyshits not kill-on-sight by default? There is no excuse or justification for them not to be.
>>262386092Is this Arie Wilgenhout??
>>262386092>This isn't in any of the channels in the discord>It's being discussed in the private admin channelsWhat happened to not handling things in the discord?
>>262387826Can't have your metabuddies cover your shit if you don't have a secret echo chamber to stroke each other off in
>>262388017How did this get posted if its an echo chamber?
>>262384716I'm gonna murderbone, and it's not out of any act of rebellion, I upvoted that PR, it's because I have no interesting gimmicks in mind
it is too late, the chicken has joined the fray
>>262388017The channel was mostly other admins shitposting at Sonix and being surprised this was just a jobban
>>262384716Probably do the same shit I already do; replace chemfridge chems with varying amounts of cryptobiolin. Spiritbreaker cryo. Shit that makes people wish they were dead. As for other antags, probably the same shit there as well; annoying fuck-you-over wizard, clown curse, magic missile, blink, chuck the entire armory out the window, Push R&D, Chem, and Cryo for memes, that kind of shit.The best kind of antagonist is one who doesn't outright murder anyone, but instead causes enough frustration that people kill themselves.
You are all a bunch of faggots!
ironic justice is only fun up until a certain point. most of the time if someone is breaking spess law and its below a 5 minute brigging ill just punch them once or twice and tell them theyre dumb, or maybe make them fix anything they broke. but above the five minute threshold its gloves on, fully professional space law.
>>262386487I got 15 minutes in the brig for getting glubbs in engineering.So yea, shitcurity is entirely valid, some of the reds literally play to have their powerboner and admins validate them.
>>262390442Try not being a greytiding faggot. I would've perma'd your ass happily.
>>262386092>gets a slap on the wristI guess it's expected when the administration team is already afraid of dishing out harsh punishments for regular players.
>>262359324Admins can spawn incurable viruses by setting them to have no antibodies if they so desire.>>262360385>>find vault hacked open, find nuclear fission device and examine it >>call security>>he says don't worry this nuke will only ever need to be detonated if a level 7 biohazard gets out of controlThey meant level 9 biohazard, which actually has nothing to do with viruses, but with blob.Incredible how quick people are to blame me for something completely unrelated.
>people who don't know that misuse of comms is a charge>people who then proceed to complain about you taking their headset when they're trying to ;AI DOOR out of their cell/screaming about getting murdered when nobody's laid a finger on themNothing like taking a shitter's headset off and watching them cry about how I'm breaking the law and being shitcurity.
>>262391331I get used to it, a few people attributed anticult posts to me today 4nr
>>262391148For yellow gloves? Try it faggot.
>>262391331>Incredible how quick people are to blame me for something completely unrelated.Incredible how quick people are to rightly place blame on your mongoloid ass for all the outright cancerous, Paradise tier """""""""""""""""""""""""""coding""""""""""""""""""""""' and """""""""""""reworks"""""""""""" you've forced upon the server.You're a detriment in every sense of the word.Kill yourself
>>262391695telling people to kill themselves isnt cool anon!
>>262391695Hate the code not the coder manDeity's fine ; cult isn't
>>262391780I mean it's a meme as stale as the fucking cock mongler and the o rly owl. Shit's normie tier. Get new material.
>Sonix being adamant that what he did was right in the ban request>He wont get banned because he's an adminWhat the fuck.http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&p=28116#p28116
>>262391856diety posts a lot of galaxy brained takes on the cord tho, i think he has problems speaking before thinking
>>262391294he was spamming 16 damage rods down the hallway unknowinglywhile what sonix did is shit escalation and jobbanworthy, it's not actualbanworthy
Okay so can anyone who is at least as or more autistic than me please explain what's going on? This should be showing me an image of some kind that indicates the coordinates of where I got the sample, right? The image link seems to be broken like what sometimes happens with an RPD when it's laggy.
>>262391920Don't we all have our moments of having our words going faster than our thoughts ?I know I've fallen pray to this a lot, which I why I try not to post often
>>262373005>>262373652that's why I said "rare" and not actual rare, just meats featuring commonly enough as ingredients that a viable alternative to getting them may be nicepoint is to have the meat plant be more interesting than just another way to get normal meat
>>262392396these are only ''rare'' because synthmeatremove synthmeat and chicken would be commonremove chicken and carp would be commonwe will always find a way to powergame cloning unless you remove all the methods
>try to bully clown>accidentally out him as a vampire>try to bully engineer >accidentally out the cultSecurity strong
Huffie, stay determined, medbay is a thankless job
>>262392508I mean the clown didn't vaguely hide being a vampire, he was literally walking up to people and asking for them to let him bite. I let him but I had no blood. Then I changed race and had no blood. Felt bad.
>cayden murders someone by shooting his hivehand >arrest>"ROUGE BORGS AHHH">figure he must be a cultist>smelele, nonantagwew, i feel like I see random nonantag murder every damn shifti wish admins would answer ahelps after smelele more often, because often you don't realize someone is nonantag until the end screen
>>262392751Sorry to say but he was a thrall and got deconverted, validboner denied.
>>262392508>>262392648>clown asks me for blood>I tell him to get me a syringe, and I'll give it willingly>apparently that's "being too nice"
>>262391780>>262391856>>262392292kys diety>>262391898m e t a c l u b s t r o n k
>>262392943>Thralls, which cost a large amount of blood, can be fixed>Cultists, which are basically free and get super powers, can't befuck diaphram so much
>>262393159im not diety, his reworks are shit.but telling people to kill themself online isn't cool!
>>262393451but the porn is all gone
>>262392483but I don't want to fix cloningI want to turn meat into dishes
>>262393263If some people killed themselves it would unironically make the server much better.
>>262393263don't reply to the anti-deity posters anon. I've wasted enough time in my life with them already. Now I just feel pity toward them.
>>262392508>>262392648>Clown screaming that he'll slay many people if the mime doesn't return his shoes>Find his shoes in maint>Slowly drag him to his shoes>The moment we arrive, he uses hypnotize on meAnd then I got back up, and we talked it out, and I let him go after making him drink 150 units of beer.
>dumb tripfagyour mode sucks
>dumb anonyour post sucks
>>262391898>Challenge Arie to a koffe fight as warden>He wordlessly runs off without agreeing to it>Comes back to sec 5 minutes later, after I had even forgotten about the challenge>Shoots me twice with a pneumatic cannon filled with butcher cleavers>Kills me>While im on the wild ride, he gets killed via highlander>See him enter the cryo pods>Drag his ass out and kill him>Stuff him down disposals>He ahelps because I "removed him from the round">Pulls this shit literally the next dayUHMM SWEETIE YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO REMOVE PEOPLE FROM THE ROUND PERMANENTLY UNLESS YOU 100% KNOW THEY ARE AN ANTAG
>>262391898>ban request>he got jobbanned for something else anywayput it in an actual ban request instead of his admin feedback(?) and something might happen.>>262392292People that don't proof-read their posts deserve no mercy.
>>26239369790s kids show cliche
>>262393697Have you ever considered that, while clearly not properly conveying it, the people that hate cult have legitimate reasons to do so?
I think I'd enjoy cult if I got converted right after a miner delivers a shitload of minerals. Then we could all roll up in Durands and fuck shit up.
Cult would be rad as fuck if it was a solo antag and not team basedMaybe even just small separate groups, like goon's gang modeHaving it be the hardmode tardwrangling roundtype is the most major thing that's wrong with it and removing that factor would make it fantastic regardless of all other factorsProve me wrong
>>262395197I'm sure they do. I'm equally sure other people actually like cult. Trying to please everyone is impossible, and yet I keep striving to find compromises. Some people will never settle for compromises and want cult fully removed, it's pointless to argue with those people.Doesn't mean I'm not ready to make big changes to the mode anymore. I'm working on it and I've been gathering lots of feedback from people who actually want to enjoy cult instead of those who just want it removed (or rolled back to cult 2 lol).
>>262395729>gathering lots of feedback from people who actually want to enjoy cultimagine that
https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1202/1202.6106.pdf>imagine shutting up WGW readers by reading back to them with a variable split-second delay
>>262395696REMOVE CONVERT RUNEremove convert rune
>>262395729>I'm not gonna get feedback from those who don't like cult>Why are people mad at me
>>262395696>Get dabbed on regardless of armor and glasses via stun talisman if I don't react instantly>Get dabbed on more because they're basically infinite with 0 cooldown and since you can use monkey blood effectively n ocost>Get to 1 second from speaking>Placed on conversion rune, stunned and silenced infinitely until done>Now removed from game entirely because its not team anymoreNope still shit
>>262395729That's a good point and I would be lying if I said I haven't seen you personally make changes that would tone down cult.It is just the combination of your protectiveness of your own projects with the rhetoric used in your posts here giving me a blast to the past of more colorful coders giving me some concerns.
>>262396407Give a valid reason why cult should be removed instead of made better
>>262395729Have you considered making changes to mechcode?
Cult will NEVER be fun. Cult will NEVER be good.Remove it. There is no other solution.
>>262393894>Challenge someone to a knife fight>Lose while trying to cheat>Get so upset that you kill and disposal them
>>262378367I want to ruffle Vrakk's feathers.
>>262393894>playing warden, a solo role that quite a few people like to play, to leave the brig and challenge crew to a lethal fightkys
Monkey blood shouldn’t work, cult magic should require cult blood. Needing blood implies it requires self sacrifice. You give your blood to narsie, not some non believer’s.
>>262396720Vrakk is a bro. Get your homoerotic fantasies away from him.
>>262396639Do you have brain damage
>>262396758Nah bro it was in the brig, he left to go get a pneumatic cannon
>>262396759Needing blood implies sacrifice, not self-sacrificeThat being said, monkey blood isn't much of a sacrifice, it's on the same level as slaughtering a goat so god will love youDifferent blood types should have different effectiveness, monkey blood should take several times as long as human, or only be usable with the shittier runes
>>262397123That sounds like a lot more work tho. I think making monkey blood useless would push cult to be less lazy, and make the game mode more interesting overall.
>>262396407>I'm not gonna get feedback from those who don't like cultcan you read? I said I took feedback from those who WANT to like cult, which means they don't like it in its current state. As opposed to those who will never like cult either way. see clowns like >>262396632>>262396583I've touched it to some extent, namely when I added the Marauder's Rocket Dash. Why?
>>262396720N-n-no Vrakk is a girl... Right?
>>262397357>e-e-everyone smart enough to see facts is a clownseething
>>262397357>replying to the shitpostersdeity pls don't waste your time
>>262396759I've considered "cult blood" being actually a thing in the past. It'd require an indepth rewrite of how blood works in the game right now. Blood has always been fucky in SS13, do you know that vampires don't actually interact with blood at all? Aside from removing it from their victims? They don't actually drink their blood, they don't get their viruses, and a vampire low on blood won't get blood back in their vessels from biting someone.>>262397316>I think making monkey blood useless would push cult to be less lazy, and make the game mode more interesting overall.did it work with lings and vampires? genuinely asking. I don't think that more than a select few cult players actually use monkey blood to cheese rituals.
>>262396720kinky, but I said waifu, not Husubando.
>>262397316Sure, but there should still be a place in the game for itMaybe make monkey blood unusable but allow you to just sacrifice the whole ass monkey with a knife to do one thing
>>262397654SS13 will never be a good gameWe should shut down the server
>>262397842>Maybe make monkey blood unusable but allow you to just sacrifice the whole ass monkey with a knife to do one thingLet's entertain that thought, let's say you sacrifice a monkey to raise an altar, which is kind of fitting, or that you need to sacrifice monkeys to get bloodstones, how would that pan out for cultists who don't have access to monkeys? Would monkeys become required, or just give a slight edge?Alternatively couldn't we just properly implement monkey blood vessels so they no longer provide infinite blood?
>>262396639>lose while trying to cheatIn what fucking universe is firing butcher cleavers from a cannon not cheating but anything the warden could possibly do be cheating
>>262397357Neato. I was going to ask if you knew how difficult adding new weapons would be. I've been thinking about melee mech weaponry recently.
solution to fixing cult:either a: readd deconversionsor b: remove converting through implantsboom cult is no longer a cancerous deathmatch
>>262398149Nobody ever said anything about -needing- to sacrifice monkeysThose are both valid options, as long as the total benefit is kept to a minimum
>>262398384>Neato. I was going to ask if you knew how difficult adding new weapons would be. I've been thinking about melee mech weaponry recently.New Mecha weapons should be the easiest thing to add honestly. You know I wish mechas equipment became visible on their sprite when they enable them but I don't have the drive to make sprites for all of them.Right now the mecha "punch" code is in code\game\mecha\combat\combat.dm so check in there. Add an override so the damage/sound/message changes depending on the weapon equipped for instance.>>262398714Then I'm leaning toward the monkey having actual blood solution because this would solve consistency issues for a lot more than just cult.
>>262397357When will you rework lings? Can't you port the ones from goon so that we can have nice things?
Cult is hard, the main problem with cult is that once cult is outed (or someone even catches a WHIFF of possible cult activity) the cult is fucked for the rest of the round because sec, silicons, and heads are all validhunting, forcing everyone to implant, drink holy water, etc. It's a bit unfair and I think 9 times out of 10 the round ends in commands' favor (where they already have a significant advantage through resources) because "GET THEM VALIDS/VALIDS GOT LET'S GO HOME". Silicons are biased against cult because METAGAYME and will usually side with a "non cult" no matter whether both parties are human and the borg is on Asimov. This is just general player behavior, though, and not following laws correctly, which is kind of a separate problem.Cult shouldn't die if they get implanted after convert. That is really cheap and lazy. It should just affect them normally, but not remove cult status. That way it's still useful for preventing conversions, but because 1 person got outed doesn't mean the round is ruined.Also, I don't know how it works now but chaplain should be the only one who can feed holy water, hit with books, shit like that. If that's already the case then fair enough.These are my ideas and I like cult. Not a good player though.
>>262396571Because the core of it is shit and irreparable
>>262398929There was one round as a borg that I convinced the AI that there was no reason to alert the station to cult activitythe shitlord latejoined captain robocopped us 5 minutes laterpeople need to get over the "crew vs valids" mentality the whole point is to craft a story and have fun even if the story is weird and not everyone wins
>>262398835Awesome! Thank you very much. I didn't even know mechs could punch. The hard part for me would be spriting, but spriting is fun!
>>262399127it was a blind robocop, even. nobody knew there were cultists other than silicons and cultists
>>262398869>port>from goonI don't disagree that goon lings are great, but come on anon
>>262398929Actually, last time I was borg on cult I ahelped asking if we need to state it since borgs here aren't supposed to act on potential harm and they hadn't hurt anyone yet, and the admin said we had to ''because cult always has harmful intentions''Very confusing because, as I said, we don't do potent harm on vg. So don't blame us when even the admins say we should be valid hunting them
>>262399309>I don't disagree that goon lings are great, but come on anonAs you said, they are great, would you rather have the old lings back? They removed them months ago and never touched them again, if they can't provide us with an alternative then at least port the dammed goon ones so we get a new exciting antag, even if just to rework it afterwards.
>>262399650he was saying come on about porting from goon you fucking brainlet.
Threadly reminder: It's not only your obligation, but duty, as a quality ss13 player to observe and warn others of a cult round in the thread, and to de-rail, destabilize and fuck up said round as much and as fast as is possible.Do your part to chemo the cancer.
>>262398869I don't port stuff, ask another coder on Discord to do it, I vaguely miss lings sometimes, my first death in spess was from a ling janitor during a power outtage, but I always thought they were silent depopulator incarnate, and every suggestions that people have had to rework them in the past have been shut down by other people. I pick my fights, and I don't want to fight for an antag I don't even care about that much.>>262398929I agree with most of your points. Some are kinda unavoidable (such as cult being fucked if they're outted early, finding a solution that'd please both sec and the cult is quite the conundrum)Silicon being biased against the cult is a fact and I still think they should count as cult enemies but I've given up on that front. It makes sense that silicons would help non-cultists, they're no reward awaiting a silicon cult sympathizers (narsie and other mobs will just attack them if cult wins), at least until we get actual cult silicons and I thought I'd leave that to ratvar stuff but hey what do you know clock cult just kinda vanished into thin air.Also about two weeks ago I saw cultists upload some AI laws to have them support the cult, and the silicon still wormed their way through the laws to get themselves...oh wait >>262399127 explained it alreadyDeconversions will be coming back as an optional chaplain ritual (I still don't want the round to revolve around conversion vs deconversions) with specific mechanics so they're less frustrating for everyone involved (no need for waterboarding, require approval from the cultist).>Cult shouldn't die if they get implanted after convertImplants being a sure fire way of identifying whether someone is a cultist or not was a request from the sec metaclub post cult 3.0 release. I thought I'd throw them a bone by doing that but it turned into the current situation.
>>262399782>he was saying come on about porting from goon you fucking brainlet.What is so wrong with that?>>262400147>I don't port stuff, ask another coder on Discord to do itNah, just rework it in your own vision if you don't want to port, but give us something good out of it at least! >>262400147>but I always thought they were silent depopulator incarnate, and every suggestions that people have had to rework them in the past have been shut down by other people.See, goon lings have a very neat solution to that, but you don't WANT to port them, but maybe you could take some inspiration on it?>>262400147>I pick my fights, and I don't want to fight for an antag I don't even care about that much.So, you are basically not even going to try? How lame...
There is nothing wrong with cult being overpowered.In fact, it SHOULD be overpowered. Just like blob.It should be as rare as blob as well.
>>262398024ss13 is a good game thoughthis is a fact
>>262400670I don't think it needs to be overpowered, just 50/50 sec/cultist winrate.
>>262400647>What is so wrong with that?Gooncode is eldritch spaghetti nonsense which would be terrible to port even if it didn't also have a decade of separation from anything in our codebaseIt would essentially need to be coded from scratch
>>262400647Other people have better insight into a potential rework than I have, since they made PRs and Issues about it already:https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/issues/23312https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/issues/20346GlassEclipse and Irradiation are those you want to ping to work on changeling.
>>262398215I used knives on him, he used a taser on me.
bring back old ling for snowtaxi
>tfw no GIR borg model
>tfw no neutranurse borg model
So when you need to get a recommendation from another server, who or where do you have the guy who writes the recommendation send it to?
>>262401141there was nothing wrong with ling, they just needed to fix it so that it didn't come up everytime.
when a sec officer and a mime love each other very very much....
>>262409471>when the AI rolls into the barAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Shooting the shit, bantering and then replacing the bartender after assassinating him was fun. Shame I spaghetti'd so hard after that. Fun antag round, especially considering I was an IAA.
>>262409645AN ABOMINATION IS BORN
>>262409790Dude, you're so lucky someone stole my shotgun out the backroom, once you went around, I would have bean'd your ass and run off.
>have fun with another player>turns out it was a guy I dislikeFUCK
>>262409937>tfw you stole the barkeep's gun to shoot rabbits but then someone else stole it while you weren't looking
the fucking dindus lately are ridiculous>Jambe Baka gets arrested, has a backpack full of guns, hand teleporter, all access>protests getting arrested, acts surprised>kills himself in permapeople think that niggering guns and access is some inalienable human right
>>262410046Who was the person you hated?
>>262410380How is that not grounds for execution on the spot or a ban?
>>262411315warden was kowtowing to the ai
hey hey people
Here is a fix to cultAllow structures to be raised off the first Z level.Thanks
>>262411462>kowtowing to the aiShould've killed it
>>262408675i dunno mang.
>>262408675Stay gone shitter. You're Paradise's problem now.
>>262413864We had this at first but then someone came in and said:Here is a fix to cultRestrict structures to z1Thanks
>>262415004Probably some butthurt powergamer.
>>262411462warden was braindead in the vaulti was the det, the only other officer didn't want to perma the shitter, I had to convince him to let me
>>262409937The funny thing is I didn't have my target until after I asked for the drink. Then it popped up and it was you. I intended to let you live up until that point.
>>262415683Now that's some fate shit right there.
>>262408675>So when you need to get a recommendation from another server, who or where do you have the guy who writes the recommendation send it to?This isn't a job application, you can screenshot it and post it in your ban appeal thread.Or, if they want to post directly, you can make a ban appeal and ask them to make an account/post there.Or, and this is seriously the worst of the options, you could have them send it in direct message on Discord to the banning admin (if the banning admin has retired, send it to Veers). Please don't do this unless you have to, for all the "handled in the Discord" memes, it is better for everyone involved if it's on the forums.
>>262416827does it matter who the recommendation is from?
>>262416827Stop aiding and abetting the perma banned cancer, faggot. Let the abhuman remain the other servers problem.
>>262417319i don't see how i can be that bad, considering nobody even knows my static.
>>262417419you ask people, 'what did 2hotdogs do?' and they will give you a laundry list of shit hes done. You ask people, "what did buttswana do?" and they are like, "Who?"
>>262417283It has to be an admin on a server. The tighter the rules on that server, the better. The reasoning, in theory, is that if you can play on Bay for a while without getting in trouble, you can probably handle /vg/, since they'll pretty much ban you for something as little as robusting a rando.And while I don't think it would be thrown out entirely, people would probably have a big laugh if you got a recommendation from Bad Deathclaw or VORE.>>262417319If he can get a voucher then kudos to him.
>>262417545I'm not a turbonigger, most of the stuff i did was piddly shit. my last ban reason was ick-ock.
>>262417606i can't even get the admins attention most of the time. they don't even know i'm playing on their server.>>262417689i just get the feeling the admins don't like me.
>>262417948Seems reasonable, if nothing else it will incentivize you (20 bucks worth) to behave a little better, right?>>262417834If you go unnoticed a long time that can be a good thing too.
>>262417606t. banned rapefuge from bay>>262417834>i just get the feeling the admins don't like me.So stay gone. Clearly the only constant is your shittery.
>>262418352but i didn't really DO anything tho'.
>>262418720like i don't go around yelling 'bix nood' and bust into cargo with spears and try to kill the captain. I don't perma people for being birds or negroids. I don't tell the AI to murder people. I'm generally non-violent.
>>262418917is the problem that i'm being a jackass or that i'm not being a big enough jackass to earn their approval?
>>262418720>>262418917>>262419037Are all these posts from the same guy? They seem stream of consciousness.
>>262419037the one guy i thought i was cool with tikkikaka or whatever his name is, called me a nazi cause i didn't want his engineering vending machine in the cargo lobby.
>>262419262yes.I even paid code bounties so that they could fold empty plastic bags so you could put them in your pocket, and coded it so that you could get ethanol from the still
>>262416827>VeersHe is a fucking faggot!
>>262419293fuck it. you know what? i remember why i hate this place. nothing you do gets noticed unless your a turbo-shitter, and i always get slammed for fucking with the metaclub. enjoy your crap game.
>>262418917>>262419037What is your static anyway? Im an actual turbo shitter that is not banned and probrably never will be despite my constant turbo shittery, let me compare your actions to mine and see if you deserve the hatred you claim you are getting.
>>262419437You're right I still have no idea who you are.I'm guessing based on the banlog though that you're the guy banned for goliathloosing and killing a bunch of people? Just be a good boy somewhere else for like 1 month then appeal and say you're sorry people died.
>>262419886Oh come on, if that is all he did he certainly don't deserve such a harsh punishment. I once was a posibrain placed in a durand armed to the teeth with a drill, a shotgun and one of those mech sized lasers and I walked to escape and went fucking postal on the cultists there, killed at the very least 4 people, saving the crew by stopping the cult singlehandedly. As a posibrain I should not have done this, but all I got was a slap on the wrist and a week long ban on silicons, I did not get perma banned or was required of getting a voucher from another server or any of that shit!So I seriously doubt that is the same guy, and if he is he was banned for arguing with the admins instead of apologising, in which case all he needs to do is go appeal on forums and beg forgiveness.
>>262333134we already have offerings in game
>>262419778>enjoy your crap game.S E E T H I N GF A G G O T
>>262419809my static is bugsy segal. i haven't been around since 2017.
>>262420564i'm sorry, take me back /vgstation/let me be you're tina to your ike
>>262419809how do you look up your notes?
>>262420814>http://ss13.moeCan't even find you on the ban page anymore, what the hell were you even banned for?Pretty sure whatever it was you can come back simply by making a ban appeal and apologising for your mistakes, begging for forgiveness and promissing not to do it again.>>262421059>how do you look up your notes?ahelp it.
>>262421262Im only the last one you linked, and I could not care less if you believe that or not, take your (you) and shove it deep within your rectum.
>>262402857Lmao you used a gun on him sonix, get fucked
I miss sonix...
>wizards man steps into cargonia>blinking about after SoC'ing the chef in the lobby>blow his leg off with an explosive trap>claim the staff as wartime loot but he blinks away before i can finish them>collect some crates when a vox tech walks on the shuttle>proclaim a human only cargonia before changing them>they become a golem, then a blue human thing>close enough so I give them a hug and send them off>station is leaking air so I bring all the techs the mining rigs>go off the find people affected by the staff to help them>find the clowns head among some gibs>go to robo, get them into an mmi with plans to borg then staff into a human>no robot ready, so we go to medbay but its empty>while typing to the clown the HoS Nick Groe comes up and stuns me>dragged to brig, pockets and backpack searched>they are looking for the staff because the vox complained about being changed without consent>I am literally wearing the staff this whole time>ask them why they want it, they just yell about "where is the staff!">shard blows up medbay, mass blackouts, radios out, breaches all over>they don't care, they just really want the staff>eventually just tell them its in cargo warehouse ( i am still openly wearing it)>on the way they develop brain damage and start headbutting the airlocks>I sax away a few times on the way to cargo and they waste all their tasers/lawgiver stuns>we finally make it to cargo and find no staff ( I am still wearing it)>the HoS now angry and very brain damaged , saying things like "Where it!">start making fun of HoS with caveman speak while he spouts more scrunglo and "we're not bay" lines>he has enough and shoots me down in the halls>emote one last dab before dying and getting stuffed in the morgue>he never got the staff
>>262425679Lmao some people are too stupid to exist
Which item is the stealthiest for the chameleon projector? I've tried mice, but it feels like cheating if I use an entity that can actually move normally. Cigarette butts also seem pretty sneaky.
>>262431675strike-anywhere match from swiss army knife.
Oh my God... I cannot believe well-known and renowned Albanian vorephiliac ERPer Peter "The Vaccuum" Jameson is trying to get in good with the tranny secmain metaclub admin team by voring SonixApache's static, Arie Wilgenhout in the secret ERP metaclub server in broad daylight. This server's really gone downhill.
>>262431675Either a cigarette butt, or a burned out match, theyre both nearly invisibleAlso a junk food wrapper is a good one too
>>262433014i am going to dab on you
>>262433070>>262431675>not using the bugged shit that has no spritelmaoing at you, do you even powergame, senpai?
>>262433014Fufu, I can't believe Peter is such a dirty degenerate when he's so nice in-game...
>>262433213stop or i will dab on you too
>>262433285I was playing board games with some randoms at the local game store and some guy dabbed twiceI almost jumped across the table and throttled him
>>262433014>renowned Albanian vorephiliac ERPerWhat is this fucking nonsense word soup?
>>262425679>>he has enough and shoots me down in the halls>>emote one last dab before dying and getting stuffed in the morgue>>he never got the staffI watched that go down.>ten minutes later, I'm sitting in an escape pod in arrivals because, by what I saw, I thought the entire eastern wing was gone>space ninja just floats on by, trying to get into the station
>>262433459Trust me, you don't want to know. Be glad you are ignorant.
>>262433205That's cheating, anon. If I wanted an invisibility cloak, I'd ask for an invisibility cloak. I want to hide in plain sight.
nigerian prince was a fun gimmick, I only wish I had time to make those nitro grenades for ya
>>262433885>donated enough blood to get a couple chocolate coins because I was curious what the prize was>radstorm hits>have the bright idea to re-label them as gold coins while waiting for it to pass>would have given them to the prince if he solicited me for moneyAh well, maybe some other time.
>>262434145there was no prize, the prince was an atmos tech faking a bus and scamming the station
>>262434349No, the blood donation prize. It was chocolate coins, I was going to scam the scammer.
>>262434145>>262434390how do you rename shit without it obviously saying (FAKE FUCKING SHIT) after the item's real name
>>262434620I just used a pen, it seemed to do the trick. Only way I could tell it was fake was by reading the flavor text.
>cannot possible concieve that people may not like a gamemode that is essentially broken by design on top of being extremely asymmetric and cancer to play for one of the two "teams"Many people have tried to fix cult by giving it the nerfs it deserve and the cult fanboys downvote it to hell and back
because it's not about cult, you mongoloid.I've seen cult lose plenty of times, and I've seen cult being carried by one man alone.It's not the tools, it's the worker.
>>262438125I know, I've been the first to say "it's about the craftsmen, not the tools"However people refuse to harmonise cult by giving it much needed QoL things (such as a rune for, I don't know, teleport to the altar, maybe) and removing the most broken and anti-fun mechanics (no deconverts/going through implants)
>>262438350Going through implants is fine, implants not popping out until act 2 is the problem
>>262438350>>262439361>no deconvertsI've seen enough people get deconverted and "accidentally" wandering into maint alone and "accidentally" getting converted.And vice versa, seen enough people get converted and "accidentally" getting caught and deconverted.
Ariel, come to dorms~
ruben you bastard, you killed the kittens, I hope you are happy
>>262332761The shards are being stimulated by oxygen environment and the emitters hitting them.There are radiation collectors to the right of the meme engine.Are you on crack?
>>262440796Sorry I am not tired
>>262332761it's a nuke disk protection.Look at the central shard.
>>262440821Kittens in this game look god awful.
>>262439937Remove converts entirely, or make it much harder to convert someoneCult is a far more complicated and involved mode than rev, and it suffers for having almost the exact same retard tide team structure, nobody can ever have fun with any of the mechanics anyway, in any version of cult
My limbs are okay.
Skylar was banned!
>>262400647add it yourself you lazy cuntstop encouraging diabetes to add more round defining cancer we have to wait muliple months before anyone manages to nerf any apsect of so it doesn't overshadow every other part of every round
>>262443472I told you. Rule 0 skylar will happen. I am always right about these things.Soon it will be permanent, succesfully appealed two times then never again.
The black market should let admins add items to it with a price of their choice and have a random per round super expensive item from a small pool imo
>>262443472>>262444765>behaviour teetering on outright ERP.uh what?i thought skylar was a silent shuffling welderbomberwho would erp with skylar
>>262445584skylar was creepy as fuck if she liked youshed strip people, strap them to things and whisper weird shit at them
Me when I kill sec and get away with it
>Me looking at your ban
Me seeing an anime picture
>Me BEING an anime picturegonna join as ai and call myself smug anime pic
being a plasmameme was fun>plasma flooding>kahchiwiejhwihew his name is really long decides its smart to hack the APC in a plasma flood>the whole room burns>he enters the shelter that i brought just in case>i get downed and almost die btw do I explode if my suit is taken off? also will fire make me explode eventually?
If Sonix doesn't get banned for the recent shit he's pulled as sec on top of what he did yesterday it's should really show all of you how the server is actually run and who exactly gets to determine how you have fun.
>>262446591he was job banned wasn't he?
>>262446646>Job banned for shit that anyone else would get at LEAST a week ban for
>>262446824is it cuz he's an admin?
>>262446646>job banned for spacing a guy for creating a workplace hazard (not even killing anyone)
>He thinks this is what shows the issue>Not the time they adminned goldsteel despite himg being literally made of shit, he crashed the server intentionally then made a reddit post bragging about it, and they kept him as admin for like an entire year after>He was actually such a bad admin with his constant abuse of shit like 5000 banger spam end round our player base nearly halved during the time he was admin and has still never recovered
Elaborating on an idea I came up with earlier>Using null rod on a furnace gives it a temporary buff(several minutes, maybe lowering with every item made) that will imbue weapon pieces forged in it with the attack properties of a null rod>Burning incense along with fuel and then whacking it with a bible will give a passive bonus based on type to the next few items made>Quenching forged items in holy water will give them the properties of holy water>Making a hammer with at least the null rod buff will produce a special blessed hammer that when used to hammer forged items, imbues them with a heavily nerfed version of the thurible attack properties(The null rod itself can be turned into a hammer that can be used for this purpose while also having the full usage of the null rod)>Finished weapons with all holy buffs grant a spell that allows the holder to consume a holy incense to create a ring of fire that harms only aggressive mobs and enemies of the church>Effects only apply to finished weapons, and only if each piece has the same treatment. All effects stack, but finished pieces will only be identified by a "Holy" prefix, regardless of which of the buffs it hasThis would buff the station crew and make it more appealing in a cult round, and would give the chaplain something to aid the crew with in such situations that's more interesting than going full battle cleric A similar process could then be imposed on the cult so that they don't just walk up to a structure and get free OP cult itemsAnd then we make clown forges that exclusively use cardboard, reclaimed foam and plastic from toys, and bananium to make the most powerful artifacts known to mankind
>more special snowflake chaplain shit fuck off
>>262448661It's better than what we have currently, faggotI would even be on board with removing most of the current combat ability the chap has and forcing them to use this, because it means they would more often than not be conscripted as a slave to produce all that shit for security
>>262448854remove all the combat ability he has and replace it with blessing water and that's ithe's an rp role that should be a convinient way to save money on ordering water from cargo, not a wizard that's immune to half the antags gimmicks with magic that rapes them for free
>>262448932I agree with the latter half of that, chaplain should be a cleric, not a paladin, and I don't even think most of the abilities it has should be exclusive to that role to begin with, but if we're going to have fantasy antags, then removing this shit entirely would be maximum no fun allowed
>>262449242Chaplain should be a fucking chaplain you nonce.
>>262449276I suggest you look up what that word means
>>262449401I suggest you fuck off and stop trying to turn an rp class into an epic valid hunter XD
>>262448932>>262449242The chaplain's abilities should be focused on utility rather than combat. Stuff like salt circles and wards (think Constantine or Hellboy) that encourages the chaplain to protect the crew, rather than charge into maint and get robusted at the first shouts of cult.
>>262449530I'm suggesting the exact opposite, you illiterate nigger>>262449565I've wanted salt circles and shit like that for years but nobody seems interested in itIt seems like everyone in charge really does want the crew to have to rely on the chaplain to be their crusading hero
>occultist chaplain never ever
>>262449565No, he shouldn't have any abilities normal crew has no access to. Even blessing water is just convinience. he's a servant of god, not gods fucking avatar on the land.Ideally we'd all be able to set up circles and such if we join his religion so that system actually mattered at all and he'd simply be slightly better at it. Not the be all end all only way to do this shit.
>fanatic chaplain never ever
why the lola pr get downvoted :(:(>>262450246>>262450101shit game
>>262450434ive beaten PCB, i'm more good than you can ever conceptualize being
>>262450208See, now that's a great, constructive suggestion that I'm pretty sure literally everyone would agree withThough I feel like it should take a tiny bit more commitment than just joining the religion, as well as an alternate way to get in if there's no chap around, maybe something like reading a bible like it's a spellbook for a minute or so>>262450101>occult chaplain fighting holy cultwould be neat as an admin event
>>262450578 working without a chaplain needs to work yes, god doesn't cease to exist because some mary sue special snowflake crotchety old piece of shit forgot to join
>>262450483>beats bullet hell game>can't beat risk management
>>262450693PCB is a fucking roguelike you casual low iq brainlet
>>262450772It's either Perfect Cherry Blossom or you're bragging about a literally who game
>>262450978fucking casual ass weab doesn't even know the genre the game he's trying to shill is pretending to be part of
>>262451021and people still can't beat darkest dungeon or get past the ruins
>>262451109Good for them.
I bet you can't even beat FTL, keep bragging about beating a game nobody cares about
>>262451451>Use stealth on boss and kill all but 1 dude>Every other fight is easySo hard, casual. I bet you can't even beat DCSS.
5 mins in ms byondNot entirely sure what a tower shield is supposed to look like tbqh, there are a lot of the things
>>262451530>can't beat darkest dungeon>can't beat FTLDo you even risk management?
>>262451814>casual can't do anything but post lies, as if his casual games are actually hardSadTalk to me when you beat a real roguelike
ConfessWhen I was MD and it was confirmed cult, I used to search every single patient I had. I would behead them if I found a tome.
>>262451681Looks like a really long t-shirt
>>262451889Coming from the person who said touhou is a roguelike
>>262451931I intentionally get culted, act nice to vampires in hopes they thrall me, sign up for discount sec any time its asked for, get borged on purpose if its malf and I'm dead and do anything else I can to get my licence to turn people sideways
>>262451931you gotta include the picture, i'll do it for youConfess
>>262451681Were you trying to make it look curved?
>>262452042dumb weab>>262452102dumb wojak
>>262451931>>262452102its my birthday today and i want to die
>>262451931I actually roleplay and try to make a story
>>262452753what's your ckey
>>262451681Good take on the tower shield, anon.I'd say mirror the shape on the y axis from the center and it'd look better, as currently it just looks imperfect rather than shaped specifically that way.The grey and brown noise looks odd. Try changing that to just brown and see how it looks from there
>>262453210I just made that to ask if that's the kind of shield he's looking for, ie old fashioned, or is it supposed to be futuristic or what. I'll put actual effort in once I know what he wants.I really don't see what's wrong with the sprite he made to begin with, looks nice and fits with how our current shields look.
How do I add a branch so it shows up on both smartgit and my actual repository? Making it on smartgit doesn't affect repository even when pushed. The reverse doesn't work. This is annoying me because I did it right before and I can't remember what I did.
>>262453428are you sure you're pushing that branch to your GitHub repo?
>>262453657Yup. I have it set in 'remote'. Unless that's supposed to be set somewhere else.Copying from master and the like never works from me either, I always have to delete everything and copy a new zip file because pulling does literally nothing and I can't figure out how I make my fork copy the main one outside of deleting my fork and reforking it.Github is needlessly confusing.
>>262453428Don't use smartgit, it gives you a counter-intuitive view of how git works. CLI is a lot better, because you don't actually need to understand what you're doing.Your branch on your computer (via smartgit) is local. It should stay that way until you push it to the internet.Make your branch, code some stuff in it ; then register the changes so git knows what it should take into account (via the command, "git add --all", or "git add yourfiles.dm").You will then want to pack this set of changes in a single commit (git commit -m "Benis") and finally, send this branch with your work on it to the internet (git push --set-upstream origin YourBranchName).
>>262451451Oh man, FTL. I remember playing that for the first time so many years ago. Amazing game. When I finally beat that piece of shit final boss I popped the fuck off like you wouldn't believe.
>>262453867I'll look up what CLI is later thanks. Only used smartgit because its literally what vg recomends you do. But it just keeps not working and not saying why.
So since the corporate lawset says to minimize expenses and any profits are negative expenses, the best way to minimize expenses is with profits. So therefore as an AI running it makes sense to start disassembling the station to convert it's materials into something more valuable and sell them. It also makes sense to kill any unproductive crew members and convert them to borg. Borg can provide value to the station via mining or converting relatively worthless electricity into resources that can be sold. This is especially true if you subscribe to an interpretation of laws that places more value on lower number laws rather than minimize expense of crew+ expense of station+ expense of self. There are probably a bunch of legitimate excuses to murder bone the whole station running the corporate lawset.
>>262453934Are you ready to unlock the Lanius? :)
>>262454129It says minimize expensses, it means that. It doesn't say make profit. It doesn't mean that. Learn to silicon law.
>>262454129Corporate is an awful lawsetThe only lawsets with some degree of admin unanimity are>Asimov>NT D>RobocopThe rest literally depends on who's online
>>262454202Sadly, no. The PC I was playing on died and I never backed up my save file. Maybe I'll return to the game someday. God knows it was fun.
>>262454253>tfw once got bwoinked for killing a guy so the admin could say yea you can kill that guyVerfy confusing, I still don't get why he bwoinked me to tell me I'm fine. Like if someone ahelped me and they were wrong just don't bwoink.
Would anyone be opposed to me setting diona cold_level_1 to -1 like golems so they don't get hypothermia like their description implies is the case? Or should that remain golem only and their description change so it doesn't make you think the space plants are space worthy
>>262454253Speaking of AI laws, would the Ten Commandments work?
MASTURBATING AND DRINKING IS NOT FIXING ITTHE VOX HAVE TO FUCKING GO OR BE TOLD TO STOP MEETING EACH OTHER FOR NO REASON WITHOUT PRIOR COMMS
no... the vox visited medbay...they must be metagaming...he can't stay there...
>>262454819Yes but it'd be boring since the vast majority of them mean nothing to silicons.
>>262454819They only bind the AI, so a troublesome AI could use as an excuse to help an antag murderbone.10 commandments would mostly result with a pseudo-purged AI that can't kill people or steal their stuff
...I see a that a vox is playing cargo again......he has left his department and walked in on me antagonizing......this must be the work of the vox metaclub.....no... ...this cannot be....
>>262454819The ten commandments are mostly personal rules and would need modification to work as an AI lawset if you want it to be applied to the crewI think most AI players would get it, but it could be easily powergamed around
>>262455102>>262455028>always visits medbay to visit the same static player every single round where they yell at each other in their nigger language>always comes magically to his rescue when hes dead or wounded without prior comms announcement or reason (no delivery no injuries>magically finds where I hid the bodyregardless of them talking in discord or whatever this needs to stop its fucking staleevery round you can always 100% be sure that those 2 fucks are gonna be together and it has nothing to do with you playing vox cuz I tried it and didn't get the same courtesy so can I get an explanation to why this happens every round? it's faggotry
>>262454986How old are you?
i want a big fluffy vox bf to hold me oh fuck im so alone
>>262455285in my mid twenties and i'm not actually mad just annoyed really I thought the wiki said such behavior like meeting the same players every round was against the rules? i'm new to this game and community in general and even as a new player I always see them every round being together
>>262455273but did u ahlep iti got a guy banned for this once lol
If odds, I'll playIf evens, I will do something productive instead
>>262455489well people were defending them in dead chat and in here so I thought maybe i'm in the wrong? the way I see it it's shitty behavior to me still so I don't know if i'm the problem or them
>>262455440the admins changed it so you can have friendships between rounds so that metagayming is okay so long as you dont erp or hurt each other
>>262455079Just have an 11th of making sure the crew lives by these commandments.
>roid on deadpophere we go again
>>262455584it's relationships, not friendships.Rivalries are relationships, too.>>262455568if someone magically knows where to look for body you hid - that's metacommunication and a permaban. Ahelp that and let the admins sort it out.
>>262455584so it's allowed? alright then I'll drop it I guess I'll try to avoid playing when they're both online at the same time another thing he did was magically conclude that I the borg am rogue just a door had sparks next to it that is not near me or anyone and screamed BORG IS ROGUE BORG IS ROGUEI was dead but still found it annoying that he magically figured that out somehow the rules say not to act like this either on the wiki atleast or are they different than the current rules?
>>262455730alright i'm gonna login now to ahelp it and let the admins sort it out >>262455764also of note is that no I did not shock the door nor did I know how to do it so that was power gaming right?
>>262455764That poster is fucking with you. If you believe X and Y are metagaming, ahelp it. However, what you witnessed was very likely just a coincidence.
>>262455927there was no dead body or blood or any evidence to lead someone to believe a murder happened yet they still expertly concluded that I was a syndicate and killed me then found the bodyI ahelped the admins just now so let's see how that goes
what's the line on erpingat what point does it become verboten
>>262384716I dont get the objectives, they range from piss easy shit like "steal a jumpsuit lol" to "murder fucking everyone, no one leaves alive"
>>262456073Wait, are you talking about shit going down right now?
>>262456073I ahelped it and they said they're looking into it I'm gonna take a break from now or maybe go out since binging ss13 for my day off is not an option right now I guess since i'm not in the mood anymore
>>262455849Not at all it's a very reasonalby assumption, it can definetely be wrong since anyone with a toolbox can shock a door but assuming ai/borgs are behind it is perfectly reasonable, same with plasma floods really.
>>262456074pretty much anything further than hugs and handholding
>>262456268Yeah it was last round i noticed them always being together in every round but this was the only round where their behavior literally ruined the whole round for me>>262456359alright I'll keep that in mind I guess
>>262455584this isn't a new rule and it's exactly as it says on the rules page
>>262455584>badmins openly allowing and shielding meta cancerDisgusting
>>262443472>>262444765Post proofs. I don't see shit on the ban page and can't find the degenerates cid
>>262456891its the first fuckign ban on the page
>>262456931Didn't know skylar's cid, not part of the metaclub.>>262456947This pleases me, greatly. A good start, just need to follow it up with ditching diety and sonix.
>>262457296you're thinking of ckey, not cid
>>262453958>I'll look up what CLI isCommand Line Interfaceas opposed to Graphical User Interface (GUI)
>>262457473Yea I figured out you meant command prompt and similar like 2 seconds later.
This Sonix situation is ridiculous. If the situation hadn't involved an admin and was someone with the same history as Sonix they'd be fucking perma'd.
>>262458336The cancer protecting the cancer and circling the wagons. What does anyone expect from Pomf and other turbokikes like him?
>>262452102I shall only confess to father Hulk, you heretical parody
Sonix is a good person who does right by others and is extremely generous and fair when dealing with some of the shitheads who play on this serverI think Sonix should be granted as much slack as many other players have receivedI think being perma'd is a stretch and unlikely for this, even for a 0 connection player
>>262458725There's a few saying Sonix is dumb in the forum post but some of the admins unironically defending this is a fucking joke.
>>262458942I don't know, most admins are unanimous that what he did is badwrongThey disagree on the sentence
>>262458336Sonix is alright but he sperged out at the ban request and on the D*scord including the admin chat, never wanting to admit he's in the wrong for once>I JUST REMOVE SHITTERS FROM THE ROUND>I AM THE GOOD GUY YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME>YOU LAUNCHED RODS DOWN A HALLWAY ARE YOU GONNA GET SPACED OR AGREE TO NOT DOING IT PLEASE FEED MY EGO AS I INFANTILIZE YOU
>>262459107Not just sonix but why do secmains everytime think they are better than everyone else and are always in the right?
>>262443472>Consistently poor escalation Yep, sounds like skylar alright, ignore authority figures and then pick a fight with them when they try to punish them or force them to do something>>262445631Explains why I never noticed then, she sure as shit doesn't like me
>>262459078Then why is he not banned?
I have been away for a bit, what's this about sonix?
>>262459426probably the "disagree on the sentence" bit he mentioned, i.e. on whether it should be a jobban or a serverban
>>262459426Because there's been some sort of consensus in leaving the final word to V*ers, who's unable to post on forums until tonight.
>>262459305>they're in a position of power where they can abuse and mistreat people and get away with it>they have access to weapons and tech every greytider dreams of>they are the "peacekeepers of the station", as their job description entails>everyone mostly relies on them to solve issues and catch traitorsGee I wonder why
AHEMtraitors need to have more crystals or infinite crystals to make them more interesting
>>262459515But why? If the general consensus is that Sonix is a retard, why can't one of the other admins ban him?
>>262459931They don't need more crystals, they need cheaper items
Imagine taking a 15 year old video game THIS seriously
Sonix is my bf don't ban him.
What did Sonix do?
im gonna probe you all, anons!
>>262459972Because some people think it's 3 days-worthy, one week, other 1 monthThat's pretty wide range of punishment
>>262458942>some of the admins unironically defending this is a fucking jokeSee my above comment about the cancer protecting it's own. The rot goes all the way to the top and Pomf is to blame for being a milquetoast faggot badmin for refusing to clean house.>>262459107>Sonix is alrightkys sonix
>point out how cancerous the admins are and how much metacancer they propogate>immediate uptick in thread shitposting and chimping outReally get's the noggin joggin don't it
how do I move to different Z levels without the teleporter? is there a special button or do I just move in one direction constantly?
>>262459305They feel they are doing objective good in a videogame which just spirals into self-righteousness, I've been giving shifty shits for moralfagging
>>262460260Guy was firing rods down the hallway, sonic tased and cuffed him, dragged him to an airlock and asked him if he was gonna play nice, guy asks him what the fuck he's talking about, sonix spaces him. This on top of his recent history of being a massive sec shitter.
>>262460721you have to head out to space and move through it. There's an invincible "barrier " around the station. Cross it and you'll be teleported to another z level. Scientists use GPS and throw them out of different airlocks to see where they land so they can use the telesci afterwards
has anyone ever made a gimmick where the captain calls the crew to a meeting and tells them they are declaring independence from centcom and arms the whole crew and fortifies the station in preparation for retaliation?
>>262460814rods as in from blunderbuss or gauss?Because rods from blunderbuss deal quite a bit of damage.
>>262461740From a mass driver
>>262461740mass driver someone else built, ie he wasn't the one who built it so he was throwing shit like sandwiches and rods in it
>>262461609yes, no one attended the meeting aside from a few and only a minority of those cared to take guns, but the badmin still spawned in deathsquad to kill everyone because like 3 people did a gimmick
>>262461609i think it's been done a few times, at least on other serbs. I remember years ago on tg crew did that. Centcom sent a deathsquad but we also got a pro-crew ERT so it was kinda leveled out. ERT and the crew won in the end but it was really long time ago
>>262460814oh he also tried to get someone borged (with the help of skylar) for killing a pet and the guy just dc'd after having his head removes and made a thread on the forums getting him jobbanned
>>262461740Rods from a mass driver. They took me from yellow to green. He was doing this directly above medbay so anyone injured could have easily died from it
>>262462019>yellow to green>healing rodsAmazing
Anyone got those gifs of the memeshards on belts bumping into each other, and the ensuing delayed blast?I swear, some of the Engies on this server are the absolute zenith of zero iq retardation.
>>262462019>>262461771>>262461852sounds like assault and negligence, that's like, 15 minutes all in all.
>>262462314Only assault because he was lucky he didn't hit anyone already hurt, attempted murder is more like it
What an absolute Chad, of course V**rs gets sand in his mangina over something utterly hilarious.
>>262462501this kills the breathable air
>>262462652I unironically miss seeing forever bads and shitters getting ZAS'd
>>262462409NegligenceUnintentionally endangering the station or its crew through carelessness.
>>262463456>UnintentionallyHe chose to fill it with specifically lethal items
>>262462501>consulting with the other adminsYeah right
>>262463738lethal grilled cheese sandwich
Looks like Dorms is a fun hating giga faggot as well.>>262463801Someone please tell me V**rs is no longer an admeme. It would do wonders for morale.
>>262464001>food analogyIts also the chefs job to cook food and not the janitors to load a mass driver with lethals and shoot the main corridor people walk on
>>262464061This would have better be a captain ban but honestly this ban is some dangerous level of based
>>262464061>no longer an admemeWhat do you mean? When was the last time you checked?
>>262464061With less irony, why do you think this ban wasn't justified ?The guy was literally holding the station hostage during a plasmafloodHe wasn't exactly the brightest of the captains
>>262464178Hi, dorms. Still guzzling that islamic cock are you?>>262464256>v***s is still allowed to drag down the server and make the cancer worsePomf pls
ERROR setting up secret
>no way to call for help>no way to mine the rocks to get out>no tools to dismantle the console
>>262465223>someone things something is funny>it must be the person bannedFine example of low t, zero iq smoothbrain shitposting. More than half of the bans on the banpage are for shit that is genuinely funny.
>>262464641>>262465461I'm not dorms though
>>262465576>I have no argument, so I'll project, shitpost and chimp out because I got btfoCope
>>262465076>suit sensors on>emergency oxygen to max pressure til empty>breath mask on>suffocate self to deathand just like that, you odds of being found rescued went up a bit above 0
>Plosky defending SonixFucking bootlickers man I swear
>>262471185>>262471185>>262471185New, fresh bread lads