http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Main_PageRead the General problems FAQ before asking questions. If you still need help, post your specs (speccy screenshot), OS, emulator version number and details of what's wrong.Please contribute to the wiki if you discover any inaccuracies or have relevant information to append.READ THE WIKI BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS LIKE:>Where do I get gamesOR>What is the best emulator for...Check out the wiki for the emulator you're using if you run into trouble, there may be a solution there too, often including recommendations for optimal game settings.Last thread: >>258733328
SP must pay for his crimes.
Are the new Ryzen god tier for PCSX2 software mode?
>>259053557>best gen6+ emulator by a wide margin>deadOh fuck off.
>>259053780Nothing he can say will pay for his crimes. Actions speak louder than mere words.
Polymega is singlehandedly saving emulation and bringing devs together. Take the HYPEpill!
Reposting from the last thread, what's the best way to set up SSF? I remember reading something about forcing some sync in the GPU settings
>>259055137Delete and download mednafen instead.
>>259055107>no romsjust lol
>>259055246but muh transparency>I know I know mdapt
>>259054001Show me any actual emulations changes coded in the last 3 months(ie, not code that's been sitting in a pr for 6 months that's only recently been comitted). I'll wait.
>>259055308You're on the wrong side of history.
>>2590558082 second glance.https://github.com/citra-emu/citra/pull/4822
>>259056175Time to move the goal post.
CHD needs better tools so it can be drag and drop in a box like zip, rar, 7zip.
>>259057653It's pretty simple but if you need it here's CHDMAN .bat includedhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-ElaPpvBHs5aUd0QUM3c05kY2c/
>>259055137Disable vsync. Use Riva Tuner Statistics Server and enable scanline sync. It's still a laggy mess making shmups unplayable but it's not as laggy as mednafen.
https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/cb351b/rpcs3_progress_report_may_2019/etjgg91/?context=10000Reverend knows the future is CHD.
>>259056175Wow, a regression fix that someone else took the time to researchhttps://github.com/citra-emu/citra/issues/4821Show me a real emulation improvement.
>>259058770>show mehow about you take that cock out of your mouth before posting again?
>>259053903Why wouldn't it be? Intel shills are panicking.>>259054001>best gen6+ emulator by a wide marginlol you serious?>>259055107aside from meme filters, what actual improvements have they made?>>259055246>and download mednafen instead.disgusting
>>259053780Radius will see to it
>>259058205Thanks, I'll try it out
>>259060759radius is all talkHe won't do anything
>>259060065hows the first gen Ryzen?
>>259057653It doesn't work like that.CD-CHD restructures the CD image, doing per CD sector compression. Its not a simple thing as a container format.
>>259062412I have it on good authority radius is cooking something. That reddit thread was just the appetizer
>>259062747Dragging it into a GUI box has little to no difference than running a batch file.
Compressing my PSP isos to 7zips to save some space. Shame there isn't a usable compression format that still reads a-ok with redump/nointro.
>>259059091>>259059328t. cringy Citra devs
Why is half of the posts in this thread e-celeb shit
>>259065615SP is currently brigading this thread as well as the emugen subreddit. Beware
>>259066842Are u deaf??
>>259060759Who is radius
>>259069035he's quite the celebrity around here
>>259069071So? Are you gonna explain who this kid is
>>259063274then drop it onto a proper batch file? it's not hard
>>259071917People actually read all that meaningless bullshit
>>259073096No one ever said it was hard.
>>259073371he was just trying to burst some bubbles. it's okay to hate emulation and deem it for the plebs if you can afford the real hardware.
https://github.com/RPCS3/rpcs3/pull/6110Libretro RPCS3 when?
>>259069440>>259069126Summer is here folks
>>259069035Radius, AKA Little Juan, is the hero Libretro deserves, but not the one it needs right now.
>>259073951whom is the hero we need?
>>259074538The tumor growing inside SP's head
>>259074538A mod willing to permanently ban sp from r/emulation, which would cause a legendary meltdown, the likes of which we've never seen. This would be the catalyst that ends with sp either being removed from the project, or every contributor of note jumping ship.
>>259076695i have a low opinion of sp, but you're fucking delusional
>>259076695what is the catalyst for his banning?
>>259076695Nice dream but SP had been banned from /r/emulation before. Sure he had a meltdown and cried for a while but hes been behaved so he was let back on.
>>259077334requiem for a redream
>>259077426Retroarch supports trump? Based
>>259076695Rev is waiting to fuck him in the ass again if he steps out of line.
>>259077426>grow up and don't become like chris-chan one daybased and cwcpilled
skmp actually looks worse than I thought he would.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm9GhCrgfpE
>>259080056geez, you weren't kidding.
>>259081180is for Compression
>>259080056look at that juicy ass
>>259063967Convert it to CSO, PPSSPP supports that format and you dont have to extract it before using it
>>259081391U is for you and me
>>259077968>removing r/emu's biggest source of content and one of the most important members of the communityYall with your delusions of grandeur lol
>>259082156can you do a round trip conversion to cso and get the same hash?
>>259084791You don't think other people submitted stuff about RA? They did. SP wasn't missed.
>>259085665Oh get over yourselves. Without TwinAphex you delusional incels wouldn't have anything to discuss.
>>259086825>Without TwinAphex you delusional incels wouldn't have anything to discuss.LOL
>>259086825Let SP show his ass again. It was fine before, it will be fine again.
>>259062994https://git.retromods.org/dev/invader>1 week agodead already
>I'm sure no one can look worse than skmp>few seconds later...jeez
Does anyone have a good torrent for Xbox (2001) games? I am looking specifically for GTA San Andreas (NTSC), and everything on the net seems to be PAL.
>>259093101Not a torrent but this should be what you need.https://1fichier.com/dir/rI4cQejj
>>259093520>this should be what you need.Amazing! Many thanks my friend!
The new Zen 2 BIOS improved ST performance a bit.>>259080056Did they turn off the lights so you didn't have to see him?
>>259094525Np. If you need more you can find them athttps://www.reddit.com/r/Roms/comments/ba1gkm/rom_links_megathread_v2_romcenter/
>>259095510i am legitimately worried for intel, what are we gonna do bros?
>>259096412buy harder! Our money can save them!
>>259096412I'm waiting on IceLake. I'm hyped for AVX 512. Honestly though, I'm glad AMD stepped their game up. Even their new GPU looks worthy of buying.
>>259097326>I'm waiting on IceLake.Isn't that laptop only? I thought Comet Lake (the one coming at the end of 2020) was the next thing Intel had for desktops.>Even their new GPU looks worthy of buying.I'm curious to see the performance on Intel's graphics card.
Brand loyalty is objectively dumb.Competition is always good for consumers.
>>259098561>Competition is always good for consumersyes, it totally benefits consumers to have streaming broken up into dozens of walled gardens until we're right back where we were with cable channels.
>>259098640I'd argue walled gardens are anticompetition.
>>259097684>Isn't that laptop only?After googling again, I'm not even sure anymore... I guess they may have changed plans. >I thought Comet Lake was the next thing Intel had for desktops.I believe so. It's just that it doesn't offer much imo. I want the new architecture and am willing to wait for it.>>259098561I agree. If Intel fails to deliver IceLake, I may buy AMD CPU and GPU next year.
>>259089402wow is that leprosy or just herpes?
>>259089402Remind me again why we are supposed to call this fat ugly pimply kid with a peach fuzz mustache a she?
>>259098898you could view it through that lens (and you'd be wrong, but it's understandable), but my point was that one shouldn't view competition as a universal good for consumers. that argument inevitably boils down to "well, all things equal..." but all things are never equal.using amd vs nvidia, an example of healthy competition that benefits consumers would be both sides innovating and creating better hardware. an example of competition that doesn't benefit consumers would be the predatory ways gameworks has been utilized in the past.
>>259099735If you jack yourself off any harder you will start to bleed.
>>259099854keep sucking that corporate kike cock, worked out so well for your boomer parents who traded domestic industry for cheap gook goods because muh competition.
>>259099940This from the person who said walled gardens are competition. How precious.
>>259100275it is by definition competition, yes.
>>259100402Sure is champ. Sure is.
>>259099940competition was never the name of the game that boomers were playing. only a moron thinks that.
Since people from this general like to shit on emudevs so much and emudramas, for a change, can anyone point an emudev that is absolutely based and non-autistic Chad?
>>259101089KD-11 (rpcs3) and Henrik (ppsspp)
>>259101089Exophase, p1pkin, and Inolen.
>>259100702of course it was.
>>259101217Do you have a fecal fetish
>>259099735Wow you not only managed to suck your own dick but you took it all the way. Congrats.
>>259101461your embarrassing lack of an argument is noted.
>>259101217if you believe that i have a war on drugs to sell you too.
>>259101756You didn't have an argument, you just dismissed him and started sucking yourself off. Who cares what you note. I'd tell you to blow me but you seem busy.
>>259101926>himreferring to yourself in the third person is a marker for mental illness, friend.
>>259101983True that. There are only 2 people here.
>>259101983>look at this paranoid faggot
>>259102002>True that. There are only 2 people here.Emulatiom
>>259101764I heard Trump won the war on drugs. Beat terrorism too.
Which one of you anons is Daniel?
>>259102419>>259102572no it's me
>>259102419we am daniel
>>259089135"No concrete goals" is a mistake. Even if it somehow takes off it will just become another RA, which is a mess without a clear direction.
>>259105040The only critical flaw with RA is how upstream devs are treated.
>>259105284Its codebase is shit. Look at all the issues. It's unmaintainable, poorly documented, monolithic. The API also sucks and forces people to resort to hacky solutions for unsupported functionality, making cores diverge more.Doesn't help that Danny can't plan anything and doesn't review PRs properly.
>>259089135>gitlabaaaaand it's dead.
>>259098640The root of that particular problem is copyright, not competition. Get rid of delusional horseshit like copyright and you basically fix the world.
>>259108570You can extend an API and maintain backwards compatibility. I think they are just lazy. I even raised issues and tried to start discussions, but it seems they expect people to do whatever they want on their end without talking to anyone and send PRs. No wonder the code base is so bad in that case.
>>259108740Then you get people who butt into github comments with their shitty uninformed opinions like retro-wertz, making it even worse if you want to get anything done. go read some posts by this autist, it's awful
>>259108531^^^^ thisits done wonders for chinese creativity and their groundbreaking and diverse media
>>259105376What do you consider the essential RA features? I think its A/V sync and shaders support.
>>259109092Disrespect of copyright and patents is the only reason why the chinese got anywhere to begin with. In the future they'll start jewing out and taking advantage of it.
>>259110238Same. I want wider platform and peripheral support for cores, not useless bloat like Discord integration (using an already deprecated API lol) or game metadata that's outdated and unmaintained, or half-assed features that don't work like netplay and streaming.Support for loading more than one file at once is nonexistent without hacks. Support for swapping content without resetting as well. Support for keyboard input is trash because the RA keybinds cause conflicts. Many sensors and input devices have no API endpoint so are not usable. Yet instead of improving the things that people use RA for, they start moronic projects that are guaranteed to fail like the real-time OCR thing - because god forbid people would learn Japanese
>>259110553>Discord integration... What the actual fuck. How did something like this even make it into a fucking frontend? Not even as a Lua plugin or something like that?RA should be distilled into its essential features. Libretro itself would also benefit from a ground up redesign, its just not very friendly.
>>259110917>How did something like this even make it into a fucking frontend?Because Radius felt like itBasically the same reason anything gets added to RAThere are no non-goals, just like there are no goals. Direction was gone with themaister
>>259111365Yeah now that I think about it it was themaister who came up with dynamic rate control, and probably the shader stuff too. Sad to see random retards shitting all over his project.
>>259110553>Support for keyboard input is trash because the RA keybinds cause conflicts.Game focus hotkey or hotkey enable. This is a non-issue and frankly your own fault.
>>259112334the default bind itself causes conflicts Danny boy.if it can be bound to a key combination and displays feedback to the user when toggled, then it is fine.I'm not sure if caps/num/scroll lock are bindable properly either.
>>259112476None of that has anything to do with an API. Neither is RetroArch a part of the libretro API.Your criticism literally makes no sense.
>>259112560Good thing that post wasn't specifically about the API then big D
>>259112476Because the vast majority of cores people play with RetroArch are console emulator cores that don't need full keyboard controls. So if you have a core that needs full keyboard controls, that is what game focus or hotkey enable is for.This is not rocket science.
>>259112476>I'm not sure if caps/num/scroll lock are bindable properly either.Again, not a problem of the API or RetroArch. It most likely means that the default key symbol map for that keyboard/OS does not include caps/num/scroll lock for that platform.PRs welcome. Stop bitching start coding, that's how stuff gets done. If you have time to bitch about this, you can use that time more meaningfully by coding a fix.
>>259112623Just admit it's half-assed because you didn't think it through and are too lazy to fix it at this point.There are good reasons why almost no computer platform has a decent core and they are always inferior to standalone emulators.
>>259112703I think its just a figment of your own imagination, computer cores are fine with these hotkeys. Not sure how else you would expect it to work. You can't please everyone and your criticism doesnt have much validity to it except on a frontend level perhaps. certainly not an api level. and if you were to get to the stage of suggesting an alternative, your alternative would likely inconvenience the people who got used to the current setup. so you'd be back to square one. this is why you dont cater to unreasonable people with niche usecases.
http://archive.is/tZrPgOh how I wish this to be real and useful.
>>259112695>It most likely means that the default key symbol map for that keyboard/OS does not include caps/num/scroll lock for that platform.Are you seriously saying platforms that supports keyboards lack input event symbols for standard keyboard keys>PRs welcome. Stop bitching start coding, that's how stuff gets done.Lmao. As if you're gonna accept a rewrite of libretro. Nobody is gonna waste time writing any code only to see you to reject it for bullshit reasons>>259112885> this is why you dont cater to unreasonable people with niche usecases.I see you people haven't changed at all since I last came here literally years ago
>>259112885Of course it's a niche use case when support for it fucking sucks, what do you expect dumbass, that people would fix the API and frontend too? Maybe you should start a bounty for that with some of the extra money you pocketed instead of investing it as promised.
>>259112885>your alternative would likely inconvenience the people who got used to the current setup. so you'd be back to square one.What if they didn't use the alternative thing? It would be shocking, I know...
>>259113460considering having a sane UI that doesn't force people to remove 90% of options due to lack of space is not something that entered the heads of retroarch devs
>>259113594s/lack of space/inability to organize them in a sane fashion/
>>259113669There's the Qt desktop UI. You aren't forced to use XMB now for well over a year.
>>259113705How does that invalidate his criticism? The fact an alternative exists doesn't make your XMB config menu any less shitty. For all we know the Qt UI could be even shittier.
>>259113705The default UI is still catering to the lowest common denominator (console controls) which leads to plenty of emulators dropping most of their options or dumbing them down compared to standalone versions because there are no categories, text/numeric input sucks, and options take way too much space (again, on default UI).Given the API restrictions the Qt UI is not much better.
>>259113865XMB works the way XMB is supposed to work.
>>259113901>Given the API restrictions the Qt UI is not much better."Given the API restrictions" facepalmThe API has nothing to do with a GUI interface implemented on the frontend side.
>>259113992API doesn't allow categories you daft cunt, can you not read?
>>259113920So it's supposed to be a shitty mess? Got it>>259113901Playstation XMB also catered to console controls and it didn't suck
>>259113979Is this that kind of special "elitism" again portrayed by "PC gamers" where a console UI is beneath them? Millions of users are wrong by default, what's far less cumbersome than pressing buttons on a gamepad is dragging a mouse across a surface and enter keys on a keyboard! Thanks anon for making me realize that important fact in life.
>>259114050>Playstation XMB also catered to console controls and it didn't suckManaging options was also pretty fucking shitty IMO. But obviously emulators need way more so it's even worse in RA.>>259114074>force a shitty UI that people keep pointing out is shitty onto peopleclearly this means everyone loves it!
>>259114049Which is sad. You can just add an API call that lets cores provide frontends with a tree data structure describing each setting, and bam instant categories. Now let's wait for SP's excuses on why something like this couldn't be done
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/daniel-de-matteis-squarepusher-twinaphex-autechre-dante-alighieri-not-the-same-dante-alighieri-from-kf.58112/Daniel, someone is trying to make you famous.
>>259114049Just to humor you, please explain what you mean by "categories" and how that would relate to something like a Qt desktop UI.
>>259114157oh I can guess the gist of what he would respond with>niche use case>can't cater to minority>people would be confused>too complicated>it's fine right now no one cares>just do all the work and send code
>>259114074He's saying the XMB interface sucks because it has zillions of options presented linearly when they could be categorized, forming a nested structure. It has nothing to do with PC elitism, even the real XMB did this.
>>259114131The only good way to manage settings is text files checked out into version control. Ironically this is perfectly possible with standalone emulators since they write their settings out to disk as a text file.
>>259114227>>just do all the work and send code>uses all the above excuses to reject your PR once you send it inlol
>>259114206Groups of settings. Represented visually in GUIs by things such as menus. Sound settings would be grouped under a "Sound" menu, while shader settings would be grouped in a "Shader" menu. It doesn't have to be 1 level deep either.Why does this have to be explained
>>259114173>You must be logged-in to do that.Nice thread dude.>>259114206What is confusing to you? Just look at the settings menu in any standalone emulator with many options. Usually they are separated in categories by tabs, e.g. general, video, audio, advanced settings or whatever.IIRC SourMesen mentioned dropping and simplifying many settings due to the UI, and either VBA or mGBA did that too.>>259114402DESU I've never seen him reject a PR, though that's definitely a possibility and I wouldn't risk spending time on a complex feature without proper design discussions which are hard to impossible to have.retro-wertz however, has always been a thorn in my side, dude can't even read or write English properly but still feels the need to comment on shit that doesn't concern him>>259114325I mean, that wouldn't be as bad if the sucky interface didn't lead to core devs removing options. A decent interface (and API supporting better ways to lay out options) would be preferable.
>>259114598>I've never seen him reject a PR, though that's definitely a possibilityBeen burned way too many times by free and open source software projects who insist that getting a feature in is as easy as "lmao send a patch" and then not giving me the time of day when I do exactly that>I wouldn't risk spending time on a complex feature without proper design discussions which are hard to impossible to have.That's an extremely bad sign, I'd rather reinvent the entire fucking software than send some uncommunicative faggot a patch for free. I spent months trying to get a reply from some german motherfucker on his shitty ass GNU bug tracker about the features I wrote and tested, only to get rejected with a "there will be no new features" comment after some ubuntu maintainer asked him about it.
>>259114173> You must be logged-in to do that. No thanks
>>259114971Probably in "Proving Grounds" section, so not visible unless you're one of those furry autists (seriously, as entertaining as this site is, KF users are almost as pathetic as the people they're obsessed with)>>259114964>I'd rather reinvent the entire fucking software than send some uncommunicative faggot a patch for free.I sure would like someone to take libretro, extend it, and write a sane frontend for that. Backwards compatibility + support for more features + a frontend with no bloat and a clear vision would be great.That said it's still work and few people are both sane and willing to spend that much time on this kind of project. Contributing to emulation-related projects is hell because there are so many maladjusted people that you have to deal with.I have been looking at writing my own emulator and the amount of work and problem knowledge required is pretty high so I guess it makes sense that it has a high concentration of weirdoes
>>259115178>I sure would like someone to take libretro, extend it, and write a sane frontend for that.I wouldn't keep libretro as it is right now. If you're starting over, it's supposed to be a redesign.>Contributing to emulation-related projects is hell because there are so many maladjusted people that you have to deal with.Don't have to deal with those faggots at all. Most of the software is MIT or GPL licensed. I can do almost anything I want with their code and they can't do shit about it>I have been looking at writing my own emulator and the amount of work and problem knowledge required is pretty high so I guess it makes sense that it has a high concentration of weirdoesIt's free software. You can read other people's code and even copy it into your project if you want.
>>259115579>I wouldn't keep libretro as it is right now. If you're starting over, it's supposed to be a redesign.What would you remove or change though, and why? Without having looked at it in that much depth, I think the current API features are fine, only RA is bloated. Also, libretro is MIT-licensed, and being able to hook to libretro cores while there is not much pull towards alternatives would be a big advantage.I also leaned towards redoing it from scratch for a while, but have changed my mind.
>>259115579>Don't have to deal with those faggots at all. Most of the software is MIT or GPL licensed. I can do almost anything I want with their code and they can't do shit about it>It's free software. You can read other people's code and even copy it into your project if you want.RA architecture and design is pretty awful so be careful with that.If you start such a project post a link and for the love of god have some documented goals, unlike radius.
>>259115948His main goal is clearly to annoy SP.
>>259116387maybe. in any case an "experimental" frontend with no goal is not likely to gain traction. I was hoping he had more ambition.
>>259115948I do have some goals.My main focus right now is a libretro player as a reusable component that people can actually plug in their own software. You'll be able to call core_load, core_load_content, core_run to get it going. I'm also splitting that into another repo once closer to completion.For all the "muh libretro" is great you wouldn't believe all the problems you will face writing a libretro player. Most cores misbehave if one or another environment callback isn't implemented. Most will just crash if you don't implement core options in the frontend.It's not dead, I actually have to work for a living.
>>259115948I have other projects I'm working on at the moment.>>259115845I'd start by dumping all the compatibility stuff and documenting the ABI explicitly instead of providing some shitty C header. I've read emails about doing the same thing for the Linux kernel, but as far as I know nobody stepped up to do that work yet. It's a really good idea. C headers are used because C just happens to be minimal enough to somewhat function as an ABI spec but it needs to be freed from that paradigm. Doing this will let other languages participate in the libretro game as well -- you'd be able to easily write a frontend and emulators in Rust, for example.The second thing I'd do is create a symbolic, hierarchical input and configuration system. Last time I seen a RA commit, SP was hardcoding configuration profiles depending on the system being emulated so that you could "invert" buttons like A and B, shit like that. What the fuck? There is no need to hardcode this shit. There is no need to have a bullshit "retro pad". Last time I argued on /vr/ about the way I'd do input, SP (or what appeared to be SP) got pretty assblasted about it. Years later I argued the same ideas again only to get told RA has a similar system in place. Who the fuck knows what the these people are doing.
>>259116935>I'd start by dumping all the compatibility stuff and documenting the ABI explicitly instead of providing some shitty C header. I've read emails about doing the same thing for the Linux kernel, but as far as I know nobody stepped up to do that work yet. It's a really good idea. C headers are used because C just happens to be minimal enough to somewhat function as an ABI spec but it needs to be freed from that paradigm. Doing this will let other languages participate in the libretro game as well -- you'd be able to easily write a frontend and emulators in Rust, for example.Seems like a great idea, but honestly I have no idea how that would work in practice. is there any example of that in another project?looking forward to more info. I also have more projects than I have time to deal with or I might be trying something similar.
>>259095510>5.0oh no, nein, no, nope.
>>259116797>My main focus right now is a libretro player as a reusable component that people can actually plug in their own software. You'll be able to call core_load, core_load_content, core_run to get it going. I'm also splitting that into another repo once closer to completion.That makes sense, I didn't really get what was supposed to be unique about piccolo
>>259117324>I have no idea how that would work in practiceBy specifying everything cores and frontends need to know in order to interface with one another. Things such as the data types, the memory layout of data structures, the calling conventions used by functions.>is there any example of that in another project?Sure. The ABIs for C on numerous platforms are are well defined, for example. The ABIs for other languages (C++, D, Rust, whatever) are a mess. See this for what an ABI document looks like:https://wiki.osdev.org/System_V_ABIThe existence and stability of these specs is the reason why C is ubiquitous and other languages are shit.
>>259116797>Most cores misbehave if one or another environment callback isn't implemented. Most will just crash if you don't implement core options in the frontend.Kek. What shoddy programming. Stuff like this is the reason why browsers isolate tabs in individual processes.
>>259116935this already exists (it was my idea actually) back then they were adding invert BA to core options in GBA cores, which all backfired because other users wanted to use YB and so on.My idea was that the core could tell the frontend the possible controllers so the frontend could "lie" to the core about which button is being pressed (retropad stlll exists but it's pretty much hidden from the user).Alcaro and SP didn't like my idea of implementation and then did a similar thing with input descriptors. Then ~1 year later Toadking added a GUI for that. We added saving from the GUI, auto loading, etc.Then ~3 years later I added proper rebinding of analogs and button unmapping and it was a huge PITA to do it because working with RA is hard AF. It's still a mess, I had a plan to rewrite the remapping GUI to be more like MAME's (press a button instead of scrolling a list of options) but I don't think I'll do it anymore.Several things are broken in my personal setup since the last mass refactor so it's no longer usable for me. I hope it gets back into shape soon because I was playing a couple games on my SHIELD.
>>259117747So how would documenting on the ABI level vs. a C header allow you to develop a Rust core easier? Wouldn't you still have to use extern "C" blocks? Is it simply to improve documentation quality and remove the cruft?
>>259118551C headers can't be directly included by other languages. Developers are stuck trying to piece out the ABI out of the header and having to translate it into other languages. It'd be much easier if that shit was specified in unambiguous terms because then you'd know things like "this structure on x86_64 has one 8 bit unsigned integer, plus another 16 bit signed integer and 8 bits of padding".>>259118532>this already exists (it was my idea actually) back then they were adding invert BA to core options in GBA cores, which all backfired because other users wanted to use YB and so on.Yeah that's what I remember. I got really mad when I saw that code in the arcade machine handling>My idea was that the core could tell the frontend the possible controllers so the frontend could "lie" to the core about which button is being pressed (retropad stlll exists but it's pretty much hidden from the user).I see. So they did end up implementing something similar to what I had in mind. Hilarious, since I was called a retard and winbloze luser for it years ago. My solution involved scrapping the retropad and letting cores inform the frontend about its inputs using a data structure. None of that "lying" idiocy.
>>259120194having a standard pad makes it easier to define buttons in the core, of course the names are not needed and makes things needlessly confusing
>>259118551Also, by formally defining the ABI, you eliminate problems that plague C++ code bases to hell and back such as libraries suddenly becoming binary incompatible because they were built by a different compiler, or even a different version of the same compiler, or even with different compiler flags. It's a really fucking stupid situation that's *mostly* avoided in practice because C is too simple and everyone uses GCC anyway.>>259120416That's completely backwards. Core inputs should not be defined in terms of some abstract retro pad. They're defined in terms of the console they're emulating. It's the front end that *maps* whatever input devices the user has to the core's language.
>>259121714>what is it that makes them meticulously archive screencaps for five years like this?Preservation is important!
Anyone here using a Vega 56? How does it perform in Citra these days? I'm thinking of getting one, and the only emulator I'll be running that isn't getting Vulkan is Citra
>>259123603Can't, don't have account there. Someone left referrer with that link on my blog.
Any played the Hitman games on Pcsx2? How do they run, can I upscale to 4k?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1118310/excuse me but what the fuck
>>259128437dear god why would you emulate those? just play the gog versions>>259128932inb4 paid dlc features
>>259129158I own them all on Steam but only contracts onwards run correctly. I also want to use a controller which is easy to setup on the emulator
>>259128932I think Daniel made his second business try. >>259129158https://steamdb.info/app/1118310/subs/>billingtype CD Key (3)>licensetype Single Purchase (1)Already there.
>>259128932Lmao what the fuck
>>259130536>price: freenice try. RA doesn't have cd keys you moran
>>259133724>after the initial launch, we will begin exploring options on how we can start leveraging Steam’s functionality as a platform.
>>259133895steamworks for multiplayer lobbies would be nicesteam workshop for assets, configs, modsdare I say SP is BACK
>>259133861There are three packages, one free, two paid.
>>259133895LOL, I have this implemented already.I've had it for a long time.Can't be done legally.
>>259134000People here just don't get it. SP is honestly the most based person in this community. The only reason the tranny furry emugender devs hate him is because he supports Trump (Retroarch donated patron money to Trump reelection campaign).So what's it gonna be /emugen/? The virgin tranny devs, or the CHAD Mr. Libretro. I'm waiting
>>259134829The other reason enugenders hate him is because he's managed to monetize their work. Just bc the faggot devs are socialists doesn't mean SP needs to be. Danel is a based capitalist pissing on the socialist gay devs
>>259134829mr. libretro for me. /emugen/ is always shitting on him but never gives a reason why.I'm convinced it's just memeposting gone too far, people don't even know why they're memeing anymore
>>259134000>cores as dlcthat'd be interesting for a little while
>>259135341>Cores auto update through SteamCould be nice
>>259134829>>259135079Fuk i'm convinced....
r*ddit seems divided over this, but what else is new
>Retroarch gets Steam Cloud support>Adds an option to log in on Android for cross-platform savesThis would be amazing
Daniel made a new company.
>>259136095>>259135964>>259134829>>259135079BASED CAPITALIST MR LIBRETRO
SP is doing what he accused NV of doing in the first place.
Can you all stop being autistic for a second
Got my RPi4 today. When will new version of Retropie come out?
>>259136527anon if I could do that I wouldn't be here right now
>https://github.com/PCSX2/pcsx2/issues/3008>software renderer causes certain games to have nearly double the input lag>this is on top of the already horrendous input lag of PCSX2Has anyone ran input lag tests on Play?
>>259136268What are you gonna cry about it? Hypocrisy is overrated
>>259136527Hur dur, open source bad tranny furry communist eksdee. If it werent for OSS knowledge sharing literally none of the closed source emus wouldnt exist.
This is most likely a retarded question, but I have no idea how to look it up online.Ever since I updated my OS, I get some vhs-like glitchy lines all over my monitor whenever I put certain emulators in fullscreen (namely Dolphin, mgba and pcsx2).They only appear if I use fullscreen, they disappear if I have anything take precedence over it. It does not happen to me with PC games.I legitimately have no clue what I need to try, and I have no idea how to look it up online because you can guess what kind of results I get from looking up 'fullscreen black bars'Thanks in advance friends
>>259141067Probably drivers. Use DDU and reinstall them
>>259141197Will attempt. Thanks friend, praise Astrid
Friendly reminder to flag Retroarch on Steam for guideline violations"Do not post any content on Steam containing the following:" "Console Emulators"
>>259140768Stop projecting. I didn't even say anything about any of that
>>259141783RetroArch isn't a console emulator you fucking sperg.
>>259141783S E E T H I N G
>>259141783Done, thanks friend
>>259141783tell that to new retro arcade, 3dsenvr and grid cartographer. all three sold on steam for years.
>>259142221It downloads and runs emulators, you can't do anything else with it.Viruses are also against the Steam TOS, do you think valve would be okay with a game that isn't a virus itself, but downloads and executes a virus if you press a button?
>>259143351>thinking steam gives a fuck about quality standardsHilarious anon, are you 5?
>>259120194>C headers can't be directly included by other languages. Developers are stuck trying to piece out the ABI out of the header and having to translate it into other languages. It'd be much easier if that shit was specified in unambiguous terms because then you'd know things like "this structure on x86_64 has one 8 bit unsigned integer, plus another 16 bit signed integer and 8 bits of padding".Most emulators are still C/C++ so it's probably worse off for them. Since all other languages that I'm aware of focus on C ABI compatibility the C header is in a way self-documenting since all you have to know is "how do I output this struct or this function in this language". Proper ABI docs seem much easier to handle in terms of navigation and readability though but I'm not 100% convinced.>Also, by formally defining the ABI, you eliminate problems that plague C++ code bases to hell and back such as libraries suddenly becoming binary incompatible because they were built by a different compiler, or even a different version of the same compiler, or even with different compiler flags. It's a really fucking stupid situation that's *mostly* avoided in practice because C is too simple and everyone uses GCC anyway.Never heard of that issue before actually.>>259128932LOL, who even wants that when it's probably only going to receive "stable" (i.e. irregular snapshot) updates?
>>259143351>you can't do anything else with itwhat about ffmpeg?
as it is, retroarch is unappealing to the average steam user. Even if it were as accessable as they would like it to be, it is so obtuse in it's design and implementation that plebs will be deterred immediately. So, who fucking cares.
>>259143351it doesn't download or run anything, you do faggot.
>>259144520What does it do then?
>>259144619just looks pretty on your desktop :)
>>259141783I did my part.
>>259144619Your mother.Buttery smooth in perfect sync, taking up the full screen exclusively, and live resampling the audio to the modified rate in the process.It'll shove so many cores in her you won't believe it. Don't worry, none of them are under-aged, they're all old enough.And then it'll hack her up, for better or worse.
>>259141783Daniel can get fucked, flagged steam page.
bin/cue format was a mistake.
any emulators that accept the pbp format?
>>259146801CHD on the other hand
>>259146801Redump should turn them into ISOs and call it a day.
>>259147791That's literally impossible
>>259147873Literally impossible to reads the 1s and 0s of a disk and shit it out into a single file? Interesting.
>>259140028>software renderer causes certain games to have nearly double the input lagWhere did you get this from? It's not mentioned in the issue. From my experience it's around the same in either software or hardware.
>>259141783But what about the sega emulators? What about the mega man collections?
>>259147873Single disc, single file. Not impossible, just not done.
>>259148208Because .iso files are not an 1:1 copy of the disc, dumbshit.
>>259147958>>259148208You can make them one file sure. You can't make them an ISO. You apparently don't know shit about what the ISO format is allowed to store
>>259147791ISO only holds a file system as an archive, sector by sector. It can't handle separate tracks of audio. I don't think it can hold subchannel data at all either.For most discs it works fine. But more complex things like many PS1 games, it does not.You could merge it all into a single file byte by byte and name it .ISO, sure. But it wouldn't be a standard ISO file, and would definitely run into problems since there's no specification for such things.
>>259148208>>259147958These two chucklefucks are writing issue reports crying that their psx game aren't playing music
Or you could all just stop being autistic about "m-muh single file!" and just keep using cue.Just an idea.
>>259148512>But it wouldn't be a standard ISO filePut it into a different format, no one cares.
CHD is the future. CUEs are history.
I too autistically assume any and all mentions of ISO is referring to ONLY ISO 9660 and not a colloquial reference to disc storage vs rom storage.
>>259149168they are already in a bin cue format
>>259149506>knowing what a file type is is autismkys
>>259147997Look at his Yakuza input lag entry
>>259149025I'd imagine they're keeping all of their entire collection loose in one folder and scrolling through it all just to boot games.>>259149168The only existing format I know of that has a track sheet built into it is CHD. And it's basically just an archive designed for compression with quick sector by sector access.Absolutely everything else has the track sheet separated. BIN/CUE, MDF/MDS, IMG/CCD, etc. Like, there simply is no other widely supported standard.If you want discs in a single file, you're going to need specialized support to read such discs regardless.
>>259149506Obsessing over minutia is no longer a sign of autism according to emugen.
>>259149506It's pretty safe to assume that in the case of >>259147791 because it's referring to changing into a single format.As it's a "just do x" statement, if it doesn't actually say what to do, by neglecting the format to turn them into, then it's pretty damn useless.So I'd rather not interpret it that way. Because I don't want to believe anyone would actually mean it that way in such a context.
Good luck based radius, we're rooting for you!>>259141783Done.
>>259149759I'd suggest placing the .cue data in the binary itself as some kind of header. But the bin/cue format is so simple and elegant: 1-to-1 binary dumps + text file describing them... Brainlets that don't like/understand its simplicity really need to get fucked
bin/cue then compress to chd. Simple solution, everyone (except emugen) is happy.
If CHDs are so great, why aren't Redump/TOSEC/Trurip using them??????
>>259144247Oh boy do I love watching my favorite porn movies through RA and put all kinds of shitty shaders on them!And now all my Steam friend will know too!
>>259150704CHD isn't great. Storage is $25/TB, why change everything for a new format?
>>259134000>locking opensource software behind a corporate platformno thanks
>>259150704Simple. Because CHD is an extra layer and they want to avoid that.
>>259116720This is what happens when you let women raise boys.
My only complaints about CHD is the lack of user friendly tools. The average joe wont touch a batch file. Its fine for me but not everyone.The fact romcenter/clrmamepro cant peek into them and use regular redump dat files against them. Otherwise I'd have converted everything by now.
>>259150704For the same reason they use plain .iso for plain data discs instead of .7z with an iso inside.
Don't forget to order yourself a POLYMEGAYou deserve it!
PS1 and PSP texture replacement a thing in emulators yet?
>>259155470PS1 no*, PSP yes.*There is one outdated version of gpubladesoft that can, but that version can't increase rendering resolution.
>>259155783>PS1 no*Sad that even N64 emulators have texture replacement. What gives?
>>259150313I do believe this is a shit move by SP I didn't write that.
>>259150692Question, when has emugen ever been happy?
>>259154725>no dc>no ps2>no famicom lmao
>>259120745With libretro, what other choice do we have?The API is fucked.
lol I can't even comment on PRs anymore.nice job SP.Can't even give kudos to the ones actually moving the API forward now. (nor ask questions)
>>259157107Time to do your own API. aliaspider had the right idea.
>>259156753>The API is fucked.Make a new one. I don't know why so many people fall into the trap of the sunk cost fallacy.Instead of wasting a lot of time dealing with Citra's flawed codebase, Neobrain started from scratch. This is why I'm somewhat hyped for Mikage.>>259157173great minds think alike :) .
How do I unbind a hotkey on Retroarch XMB with a keyboard? I'm trying to unset the fast forward command
>>259156049Oh I know you didn't right that, I was wishing you good luck separately from that post.
Help me out /emugen/. I've been trying to get Metroid Prime Trilogy to run at full speed for the better part the day. Most other games, as well as the GCN versions of Prime 1 and 2 are fine, but the trilogy versions chug hard, even with asynchronous shader compilation. Shouldn't 3.5GHz and a 760ti be enough?
>>259155783Damn shame, I was thinking about ripping some UI textures on some old favorites and upscaling them to make the games look less terrible at higher resolutions. Did wonders for some gamecube games figured PS1 would be a bigger improvement.
>>259158896>Shouldn't 3.5GHz and a 760ti be enough?I don't know why you'd think you can just use the frequency as a descriptor as if IPC wasn't a thing.
Is there any hope for a PSP or 5th gen console emulators on 3ds?
>>259158761>>259158761Lmao there's no way to unbind the key. Had to literally open up the cfg and set the keys to "nul". Even old as fuck emulator GUIs can do this for fucks sake, I did this on snes9x 10 years ago
>>259160483I'm surprised UI upscaling isn't more common. Keeps the overall esthetics of the game while vastly improving them when played at higher resolutions.
>>259158896>Shouldn't 3.5GHz and a 760ti be enough?That's not even good enough for N64 emulation. But yeah, Dolphin sucks, anon.
>archive.org>no-intro rom sets>they're fucking zipped fileswhy
https://pastebin.com/raw/egh63sYHSome words from Saftle.
>>259162672Seems like rambling about nothing from nobody.
>>259162969Then, it fits here.
>>259162106I would've figured even just replacing the text texture would be a thing for every popular game out there as there's zero artistic ability required in that, but nope.
libretro v2 needs to happen without Daniel's consent.
>>259163092Then why the fuck are there old posts from you telling me to press retropad Y instead? Why not put a goddamn "press del to clear" message in the timeout dialog
what's so bad about retroarch except making everybody here butthurt?
>>259157107Is it this?https://github.com/libretro/RetroArch/pull/9092This is his insecurity making him act out like this. He needs to be booted from being the project leader, he is too emotionally unstable and not good enough as a coder to make up for it.
>>259157363>I'm somewhat hyped>mobile only>closed source>paid
>pull git master of RetroArch for the first time in a while>try to build>everything is brokengreat QA it seems
>>259157107radius, are you a socialist?
>>259163662/shrugSome relevant precedent: https://lwn.net/Articles/396535/There are many points of view on this matter. As a copyright holder I could file a complaint too (assuming I have enough patience to read the EULA to find out if it's a problem or not).Ultimately, doing so would affect end-users which is why I wouldn't do it.From a practical standpoint, this is libretro bringing PPSSPP, dolphin, fbneo, snes9x, old mame, new mame to steam. They are working around the fact by having the cores as downloadable resources (partly my idea, mostly my fault, sorry).Some more relevant information:>Does the GPL have different requirements for statically vs dynamically linked modules with a covered work? (#GPLStaticVsDynamic)>No. Linking a GPL covered work statically or dynamically with other modules is making a combined work based on the GPL covered work. Thus, the terms and conditions of the GNU General Public License cover the whole combination. See also What legal issues come up if I use GPL-incompatible libraries with GPL software?So core develoopers could fully file a copyright claim at least (again assuming the steam store EULA goes against the GPL)>>259165000No. Why would I be?, I just don't like this.
>>259161526I told you how to unbind keys anon, now DELET THIS right now!>>259162672>r/emu isn't enough of a hugbox for ballwashing saftleHe's a sensitive boy.
>>259165421core developers is a misnomer there, with core developers I mean, upstream project developers.
>>259165421>No. Why would I be?I'm asking the questions.Now, can you tell me, will SP pay for his crimes?
>>259166180Follow roger's example.
>>259164176>mobile onlyit's delayed source afaik.>>259163837>what's so bad about retroarchPerformance and UI
>>259166325Your parents failed you.
>>259114173Wow, you pretty much signed his death warrant.Those people are masters at social RE.
>>259172151True, they tend to only target the most prime for whatever stuff they do. Well, they now know his home address, so all sorts of things can happen with that. They seem pretty efficient at grabbing all sorts of info, including social security numbers. From there, they could grab people's family details, employer details, neighbour details etc.They can pretty comprehensively fuck someone's life.
>>259173009lol he put his address out there?
>>259173009But thats the thing, he doesn't try to keep his nose clean.From what I seen, KF only target people who really don't make an effort to keep their nose clean, and that are constant dramawhores. If people do try to keep the bullshit to a minimum, they lay off them.They pretty much laid off byuu after he cleaned up his act.The problem is, Twinaphex has such a massive ego he doesn't care about anything others say or other people's images when they are around him.
>>259173291Pretty sure laws mandate that business registrations have to have a physical address.
>>259062605First gen Ryzen is kinda meh on PCSX2.I own a R5 1600 and while most games run fine, a few run slow (Shadow of the Colossus is a prime example). Single threaded performance just wasn't there yet, and the frequencies are low compared to Intel's counterparts (the 1600 is 3.2GHz base and 3.6GHz boost).
What happened to Citra? Last I was in the loop you needed some crazy specs to play BotW
>>259174015Thats funny, before the 8700 cpu I was thinking of at least Threadripper. Kinda wish I just waited till the brand new 3rd gen Ryzens and AMD GPUs arrived. Would be nice to go 1440p for modern games too, not just emulation.
>>259174015Has anyone tested a 3900X on PCSX2?
Guys please help me here.Can you transfer your Pokemon from gen 3 to gen 7 just by using emulators?It's just 2 consoles,GBA and 3DS.Is there a legitimate path without using the hardware only emulators?
>>259178453>transferring your pokemans>not starting fresh with each gameStupid dumb casual scum.
>>259179418Well,it is true that every pokemon has a new protagonist but it's also cool that you can self-insert and pretend that your old pokemon are back to help you fight the new guys.Imagine fighting a champion in gen 5 or 6 with your gen 3(gen 1 if you count fire red leaf green) pokemon.
>>259173540He's unquestionably thread material for them. Almost all emudev drama revolves around him. But I don't see Kiwifarms as being capable of shaming Daniel where all others have failed.
>>259176534This post is quite funny.>AMD
>MGS2 runs more or less perfectly fine on pcsx2 ver. 1.5>Up until arsenal gear where the framerate drops to as low as 30 during every other cutscene.Anyone else have this problem?
>>259181450But it's literally one of the best processors for Dolphin 5.0 which is a build so old that it doesn't even have Zen optimizations in the compiler yet.>>259095510
PS3 and Xbox emulators that support redump dumps when?
>>259182296Competition is always good for consumers.
>>259182296This makes me seriously regret buying an 8700k.
Are you hons and sweeties excited to have your favorite frontend on your favorite digital distribution platform?
>>259180837It's not about shaming him. It's about literally milking his ego for all the lulz its worth. Basically emugen on steroids.
I feel like SP disappearing would spark a revolution in the world of emulation. All emudevs and other ex-contributors who were driven away by him singlehandedly would come back together and Make RetroArch Great Again. The world would be in harmony. All it would take is for Daniel to step down; or for a brave soul to force him down.
>>259182296INTELE X P E L L E R
>>259185714What's stopping them now? It's not like they need SP's blessing. They can literally take SP's code, slap their names on it, call it theirs and then laugh at him when he melts down in impotent nerd rage.
>>259186009Let's do it
>>259186009That would require them to show initiative, to collaborate and communicate effectively, and then it would be I AM LIBRETRO + asspatters vs. people with real lives and other projects that take a lot of time (as far as emudevs go). Not easy to overthrow a project with momentum and a brand name.
>>259185804JEWISH BAN TELLERFELLER
>>259185714>sp disappears>libretro falls apart within a monthYou ungrateful incels have no idea how much work and time he puts in maintaining the project and keeping the lights on.
Why don't emudevs seem to understand software licenses? If you use a permissive license, you can't just start crying when someone adopts the emulator into their own project.
>>259186910Oh right how could RetroArch possibly survive without "refactoring" that breaks everything, PRs accepted without review, and daily hour-long rants on Discord? Truly Danny does everything important for the project.
Danny just uses RetroArch to prop himself up. Without RetroArch, he has nothing.
>>259186987Oh fuck off, he's carrying a giant chunk of the scene on his shoulders, and you're going to begrudge him letting off some steam?
>>259187189lol, I'm looking forward to your KF thread coming up Daniel
>>259186938They're autistic and think people will follow unwritten rules about respect & giving them their due. They actually believe anyone gives a single fuck about their license when everybody knows they won't sue shit
>>259187121>danny uses the most noteworthy thing in his life to prop himself up>without it, he's nothingpretty sure that applies to most people
>>259187254What is kf going to do to sp that he hasn't already done to himself?
>>259187254Like he's afraid of a bunch of autistic losers from Kiwifarms. What a joke.
>>259182296>>259181743He was talking about PCSX2 as if AMD couldn't run it well until the new AMD god chip released in 2019.
>>259183028Yeah, tell me about it, I should have waited too.
UIs aside which is better mainline PPSSPP or libretro PPSSPP and why?
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/daniel-de-matteis-squarepusher-twinaphex-autechre-dante-alighieri-not-the-same-dante-alighieri-from-kf.58112/HAHAHAHAHA THE MANLET GOT KEKED ON KIWIFARMS.He really tough anyone there would care about his chimpout over SP kek.
>>259192298Post some caps for those of us who don't have foxdick accounts.
>>259192693Looks like a win for SP
Does Desmume just not like Black & White? BW2 was fine, Platinum was fine, Blaze Black 2 was fine, but I get hella crashes on just regular White.
>>259194069Zeromus hates pokemon
>>259195276I'm assuming thats the name of the dev? I can imagine why. Though I saw the desmume wiki. super autistic shit.Is he the guy working on melonDS?
>>259186938They're just too optimistic. People like haze are aware of the rules but still has high expectations.>>259188979>talking about yourself in 3rd person. Just admit it already.>>259191967lol at using libretro for anything past ps1.>>259195336>Is he the guy working on melonDS?no, staplebutter works on melonDS.
>>259195579>>259195276is melonDS better than desmume yet?
>>259192693Sounds like whoever made the thread did a shit job of it. Someone more capable should try again, even the ReSwitched team got a thread there so it's not that high a bar.
I was considering getting a 5700 XT, but I'm worried about CEMU, RPCS3 and yuzu. Should I aim for the 2080 Super instead?
>>259196667Don't fall for the AMD gpu meme.
>>259196768No graphical glitches
>>259196764That bad, huh?
>>259196873Yes, they just aren't a compelling option unless you specifically want to avoid nvidia. They finally got their shit together on the CPU side to the point that I'm sure intelaviv is kvetching hard right now, but their GPU division isn't competitive on the high-end.
>>259197164>but their GPU division isn't competitive on the high-end.lol what? It's highly ranked on GPU benchmark.>>259196667Personally I wouldn't go out of my way to buy an Nvidia card just for some gimped OpenGL-only emulators. The ones that support Vulkan/D3D should perform well.
>>259196764>>259197164Do you think a 2070 Super + 3700X would be a better combination than a 5700XT + 3900X then?
>>259198041eat ramen for a week and get the super and 3900x
>>259198152Highly considering it.
definitely getting some intermittent audio crackling on melonDS.so its either this or desumumes random crashes eh
>>259198041Anon, the 2070 Super is 100 bucks more expensive and only a few % faster than a 5700XT.
>>259199097>that methodologyCome on now.
>>259199168Yeah, Forza is cheating, still, why spend more money for just a few frames more?Also if it's 100% about emulation, anon can just set up a second linux os for amd emulation.
>>259199232It's not 'just a few frames more', it's proper OGL support, and working drivers where updates don't routinely break older games. As someone who has fallen for the radeon meme in the past, do you know how infuriating it is to try to play some old game, crash, google it, and find out that X driver revision broke it and it was never fixed? Oh, but then rolling back that far means that newer games are crashing, as well as additional older games that were fixed in some revision in between.Do you know how many times that has happened to me with the same library of games once I went back to the green jews? Zero. I don't know about anon, but +$100 for ~10% more performance and having all of my old vidya just work is a reasonable trade to me.
>>259199691>it's proper OGL supportLinux>and working drivers where updates don't routinely break older games.I play mostly old games and never had crashes or something break with my radeon card and its new drivers.Finished Deus Ex and System Shock 2 with 0 issues at all.Maybe check the pcgamingwiki for troubleshooting next time?
>>259198079Cope.>>259196667I don't think anyone's benchmarked any RDNA cards on emulators so there's no reference for how they perform. I think they might still run like shit on Windows though because I think it's the driver quality that's limiting their performance in emulators and not the hardware.
>>259199907>performance per dollar>competition on the high-endOne of these things is not like the other.
>>259199907But if you're a Linux user they're probably a good buy since you'll be able to use the built in drivers and are actually able to run Wayland unlike Nvidia users.
Threadly reminder that this is /emugen/ not /pcbg/
>>259199805Shit anon, you finished two extremely popular and well-supported older games without issues? Fuck yeah, buying AMD right now!
>>259199997What? It's as fast as the competing Nvidia cards at the same price.
>>259200087Then tell what old games didn't work for you.You can do that right?Or maybe you're just lying out of your ass.
>>259150704It's also not gangstalking shitstirring dramawhore general. But that never stops anyone here, sadly.
>>259200098A stock 2070 is not high-end, which is specifically what I mentioned in my first post that triggered you.
>>259192693I made an account but I can't see the thread. Do you have to be an admin or something?>>259199691It seems to be only Windows that has trash fire AMD OpenGL drivers. I don't know what their deal is.>>259200136What else are we gonna talk about?
>>259200272>actually I told u when I triggered you lel xDYou never responded to me about a 2070, faggot.Also, why is your dumb-ass recommending above a 2070 in an emulation thread?
>>259200345See >>259197164And then >>259197761Not sure why you'd rather sit there and continually move the goalposts and waste everyone's time instead of conceding one small point.
>>259200136Whoops, >>259200072>>259200326>What else are we gonna talk about?Emulation. How emulators work, compatibility, updates that actually change things without just milking them for drama, the ups and downs of versions and settings.You know, like the first emulation generals were. Just before and after /vg/'s creation. Zero malicious intent, just trying to help get things working.
>>259200536>Zero malicious intent, just trying to help get things workingEveryone moved on to discord for that.
>>259200610>discord>help get things workingLOL
>>259200686Sure. You can get nearly instantaneous 24/7 support, often from the people who are directly involved in maintaining the emulators or who have a high level understanding. The one thing you can't do on discord is talk about dramas without self censoring, so I guess that's what emugen has been relegated to.
>>259200536But why would we do that when the emudevs that make them are furries? How can we possibly ignore that grown men like cartoon animals? It's irredeemable!
>>259201819Weird that leaking someone's personal info is against ToS.
>>259202252That 'personal' info is now public, thanks to Netherlands Chamber of Commerce.
>>259202252It's not personal info anymore when you submit your address for doing business, knowing it will go into a public business address directory.If he honestly didn't know this would happen then I feel sorry for him, but he has only himself to blame.
>>259202864Not even once.
>>259202559Could have set up an office in town thats not his home address.
>go to graphics conference>hang out with themaister and friends at the bar>retroarch comes up>yeah I'm not surprised Daniel is getting into trouble, I cleaned my hands off of himI had to contain my laughter
>>259204580Reminds me of a recent occurance where some demoscene/graphics people started talking to me about einweg's codebase and how it related to possible libretro use in one of their own projects......and how they remarked they hated libretro for not allowing completely contained state (for multiple instances in the same app)Yeah, the discussion with libretro didn't end well.
>>259204736Did you give them tips on how to end their lives?
>>259204580>I cleaned my hands off of himThis is some weird ESL shit.>>259205207I've got you covered anon! Google 'helium exit bag'.
>>259173540>They pretty much laid off byuuWhat happened exactly? I mean, byuu has afaik always hidden his real name or private address (contrary to 'mad dutchman' Dany) so what bad could have be done to him. The only other place where I see people hating him online is here actually.
>>259186910All he does his some constant code 'cleaning' (according to his own standards as unemployed dev so it also breaks something 9 /10 times) and merging external PRs in retroarch and forked emulation cores (without checking if the PR is fine or does not break something off course, because that's too complicated).Honestly, RA would be just fine without him and with current devs.
>>259187189You know he is despising you as much as you are admiring him, righg, saftle boy? It's so enjoyable to see you trying to grasp his attention during his daily rants and him just ignoring you (hint: Daniel is only triggered by confronting opinions and only interested by people who can be useful to him as 'devs force', he has absolutely zero consideration for fanboys or parroting nobodies, sorry)
>>259204418on donations? yeah right...
>>259211953Virtual office, 60€ per month, valid address included.
>>259212339future patreon goals unveiled!
>>259211218>Saftleoh yeah I forgot about that bootlicker, makes sense`he started fueling some drama fire in the Steam forums and then deleted his posts when people noticed, wish I had taken screens>he has absolutely zero consideration for fanboys or parroting nobodies, sorryHe did get "dev" status on Steam, maybe that's the power he craved for, LOL
>>259212686Piss bottles, patreon money, and cum socks.
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/07/retroarch-the-worlds-largest-emulation-front-end-coming-to-steam-july-30/Guess Dani has been watching good omens
>>259217892>In addition to answering our questions, De Matteis coughed up one interesting bit of additional news. The 1997 N64 racing game Extreme-G may receive a retail Steam launch at an undetermined point in the future, and should this come to pass, RetroArch and its Mupen64plus emulator will power the game's Steam version. (De Matteis described this process as "talks," as opposed to a confirmed retail launch.) This would be a wholly separate download from RetroArch's free Steam download, and it would require publisher Throwback Entertainment to abide by a GPL license for the emulator front-end. "We went to great lengths to ensure all involved parties like Mupen64plus were kept in the loop on this and to make sure we got their approval," De Matteis says.How fun it is to be part of the retrogaming 'industry' after years of hating rants again them. I've always painted SP as a scummy hypocrite who was raging and ranting against things only because he was not part of it.... I guess I was right after all.
>>259219292Let me guess, Daniel will make bank off this deal for "support" or something and the original emudevs will get squat.
>>259219865Wait no, I already know. They'll get $10 a month if they stay off his bad side.
>>259219292That's disgusting Tbh. I thought it was suspicious how he barked so loud. Does this mean the m64p devs are going to get paid too?>>259202559Man that's pretty wild. Thanks to you guys, I've become aware that Google requires that you post your address if you have any premium content on playstore. Pretty stupid rule Tbh.
Maybe SP unashamedly making money off of a project largely not his own, and leaving contributors in the dust is what will spur a move away from/forking of RA. One can only hope.
Anyone here mod there Wii U? I'm looking to play N64 and Gamecube and Wii. I remember nintendo cracked down on roms so im hoping some are still easily available
>>259212686>Jul 2009That image is 10 years old. What was SP up to then?
>>259201819Caution: This account is temporarily restricted
>>259228540Probably nothing different from what he's doing now. Being a NEET, and yelling at his mom?
>>259228249>>>/vg//hbg/Like most Nintendo games, they're still easily and widely available in many locations. Just not your average scummy ad ridden individual rom hosting site.I think NUS downloaders still work for WiiU though, ironically. Last I heard, they only tightened crypto security on the 3DS for that, to kill off shit like freeshop.I still have a version of that one downloader program from before the creator added crypto mining (Monero?) to it, before the creator stopped hosting it. Not sure if it works. Definitely don't want to redistribute it.
>>259224661There is no problem with him making money off of open source. The problem is in the past he used to denounce people doing the same as the scourge of the universe. He's a hypocrite.
>>259229117Regardless of what I think about the significance of SP's contributions, I think it's pretty scummy to profit off a project that you did not create, and that has very strong community participation, i.e. is not just a fruit of your own work.It's even worse considering his past claims that RA would never be commercialized, and as pointed out, his hypocrisy.
>>259229424>I think it's pretty scummy to profit off a project that you did not create, and that has very strong community participation,Agreed. What boggles my mind is that some people still defend him. Honestly, what productive things does this guy do? He's basically a lousy manager that tells other people what to do, afaik.>>259229117>He's a hypocrite.Indeed. Kinda sad how he keeps getting worse.
>>259229739Considering the git contribution stats I can't say the sum of his contributions is not equal or maybe even higher than other contributors.The fact remains that it is TheMaister's project, with most of what people use RetroArch for being designed by himself. If I were in that situation I would never think of making money off of it, simply because it is not my project. Patreon for maintenance costs is understandable, but not divulging any information about spending makes it obvious that he's personally profiting already.As an aside, SP went into the RetroAchievements.org Discord server to bitch, and at one point accused them of doing the same thing (failing to divulge what was done with Patreon funding). RA.org's response was that the income just about funds server costs and that they limit patron contributions past that cap to avoid profiting. Did that change SP's mind or get him to reconsider his own practices? Of course not. He was just looking for an excuse in accusing others of being as bad as he is in that regard.When I see what he does nowadays (minor maintenance work, refactoring and moving files around which biases the stats), and considering most actual functionality upgrades come from other people, it definitely doesn't seem fair for him to take ownership of the project, going as far as registering a business for the purpose of making money off the hard work of others who were fooled into thinking this was a non-profit project.At least I guess there are bounties; a half-step towards compensating contributors fairly, although the amount invested in bounties is far below what it should be.And this is after he made people like Radius pay for servers out of his own pocket and spend time and effort on maintenance and tooling. Did he ever reimburse those costs?
>>259232180I'll consider it, if it keeps users away from RA.
>>259231048Noone "made me" pay.I believed in the project back then
>>259231048>Did he ever reimburse those costs?Judging by his comment on discord, I doubt it.>and at one point accused them of doing the same thing What a scumbug. It's like everyday the stuff I hear about him gets worse and worse.> and considering most actual functionality upgrades come from other peopleSadly he doesn't even respect his contributors' work. For instance, SP scrapped cxd4's Angrylion optimisations for no good reason. He doesn't value it enough to port it back into their current Angrylion code. Fortunately standalone is better than RA for N64, so not much is lost.
>read up that Infernal Machine has been HLE'd now>it still runs like absolute shitwhat was the point of HLEing it
>>259233587>what was the point of HLEing itno point. it was just an opportunity to make $$$.
Should Steam have Retroarch on it?https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/ccq34r/can_retroarch_be_stopped_from_releasing_on_steam/etoyrzu/
>>2590535571.I like the border but I am wondering if there is a way to remove that light glare in the top right corner of the screen? 2. I want to play my ds games in portrait mode since It matches well with my 4:3 screen better. But every time I change it to portrait in windows Retroarch just shits itself, is there an option to do this within RA?Because I can't find it.
>>259234829>Can RetroArch be stopped from releasing on Steam for including unlicensed MAME cores?Except it doesn't include cores dipshit
>>259232180Why was this deleted?
Are there any better options for portable emulation that run on AAs than the GP2X? I'd really like to have something that could at least do decent SNES emulation. Alternatively, if I just wanted good 3rd gen emulation support are there any other options I should be considering?
>>259202414it was already public, his full name, home address and pictures of his apartment have been circulating emugen way before this Dutch company. including a newspaper article (in dutch) about him and his mother whining about loud noises outside. (the name/home address) came from old WHOIS of libretro or retroarch.com domain)>>259235641and there is no license needed anyway. haze is a whiny bitch who only complains that people don't do things his way. mame keeps noncomm versions for download too, they can't tell SP not to. hypocritical autist fuck.
>>259237743Yet he still cries about "doxxing" and "harrassment" [sic] if you point that out>including a newspaper article (in dutch) about him and his mother whining about loud noises outsideSo it's actually confirmed he lives with his mom? That's hilarious.>and there is no license needed anywaytrue, something tells me however that if SP wasn't so antagonistic and aggressive Haze would be less stuck-up about it.As the libretro motto says: "it takes two to tango"
>>259237743>mame keeps noncomm versions for download too, they can't tell SP not tohttps://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/ccq34r/can_retroarch_be_stopped_from_releasing_on_steam/etoyrzu/>They use the fact that Mamedev still offer the older versions for download as a counterargument, but there's a big difference between having something on the legacy 'older versions' page that barely anybody looks at and pushing it in the primary core download menu of an active project.
>>259238709>Yet he still cries about "doxxing" and "harrassment" [sic] if you point that outDaniel was doxxing people too, when he was a 'kook'.
>>259237743>including a newspaper article (in dutch) about him and his mother whining about loud noises outside.LOL is this really true?
>>259239268>JuanDenver>Little Juanholy shit it all fits together......
>>259239268Danny boy needs to pay for his life of crime, desu.
never played Castlevania: Symphony of the Night but ive seen that the game is different on other consoleswhat is the best version of the game (ps1, saturn, psp etc)?
>>259239961why? ive read that the saturn version has more content, but also has some texture problems
The day Ryphecha adds CHD support is the day I delete RetroArch from my PC, make it happen.
>>259236552How do I use that? When I go to shaders\handheld\console-border\resources nothing shows up.
>>259210426byuu mostly cleaned up his act after moving to Japan. Best guess is he realized he had autism and stopped acting exceptional. That was a few months after his thread, so I don't know if it's related or not.
>>259240220Why don't they add CHD support?
>>259240220>>259240823mednafen doesn't support bad dumps
>>259241092Isn't FLAC reencoding optional?That aside it's mostly just a compressed archive, optimised for reading discs by sector. Good dumps can be formed into CHD.
Rereading the comment from this classic gem, seeing new ones I didn't notice before, every reread is a treathttps://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/c8cyjl/what_do_emulator_developers_think_about_libretro/
where do yall prefer to get roms or isos
>>259238709>Yet he still cries about "doxxing" and "harrassment" [sic] if you point that outHe's a professional victim. His histrionics aren't convincing to anyone who's familiar with his act.His whole act is accusing others of what he secretly does or wants to do himself. Profiting off emulators, harassing people, etc. Assholes always finish first, so of course it works for him.>So it's actually confirmed he lives with his mom? That's hilarious.How is he living without a real job anyway? Pretty sure you can't receive Patreon funds while on welfare.>>259241501Be sure to check removeddit, a lot of people chimped out and deleted their replies.
>>259242062>Pretty sure you can't receive Patreon funds while on welfare.Tax evasion, obviously>Be sure to check removedditShit won't load unless I disable µBlock or something. Screw it
>>259241558Pretty much everything is available at mega.nz if you know the links.
>>259242160Be a real shame if someone informed the Dutch government about all the untaxed money Danny's pulling in while on welfare.
>>259242372I doubt they'd give a fuck about that little money but if someone cares enough to report that go for it, if it amounts to anything that would be pretty funny but I'm not holding my breath
>>259242192any chance you feel like sharing them for gc and wii?
>>259242160I was about to ask you what browser, but then I tried Firefox and it doesn't work. Chrome works for some reason and I have ublock on both.
>>259241329>Good dumps can be formed into bad dumpsyou don't say
>>259243146Yeah I don't know why, but it only works in Chrome and not Firefox.
>>259243196And vice versa, is what I meant.As long as you don't use the FLAC reencoding it should be basically a by sector archive, entirely reversible. Supposedly.I don't personally bother with CHD at all since multiple files and filesizes don't bother me at all.
>>259242160You might have to click a shield to the left of the url to load it.
>>259243340>And vice versa, is what I meant.NopeYou lose track data if you try to convert it back to bin and cue.
>>259242062you don't have to be on welfare if you don't have a job. he lives off the patreon funds and mommy.
>>259229424> I think it's pretty scummy to profit off a project that you did not createNot really. That's what free software is all about. Nowhere in any free or open source license does it say you have to give anyone a cut of your capital gains if you use the software to make money. In fact, your social debts are considered paid if you contribute code back and make the software better for everyone. This is enforced by the GPL and good business in permissive licenses.
I know *technically* retroarch is legal and all that but does anyone else not see this steam thing lasting very long? also for it to be on steam doesnt it need like... a not shit UI?
>>259245242there's obviously a difference between using the name of the software to collect donations for your personal gain, i.e. leeching off the work of others while using the brand name to dupe donors, vs. making a product using said software
>>259229739>Indeed. Kinda sad how he keeps getting worse.Yeah it's sad. I remember back then he used to be proud of how he didn't accept donations in order to keep the project independent and now he's got a goddamn patreon. Honestly he's starting to come off as shady.He should be watched carefully. As far as I know, libretro core builds are not signed and are not reproducible. This means there's no actual guarantee that the packages retroarch downloads from the buildbot were built from the public repository we can see. It's perfectly possible to add an automated build step that patches the resulting binaries, making it so they collect "usage statistics." This has been done before.
>>259245242It's just funny watching you simultaneously claim the licenses let you do whatever you want, and then bitching when folks like neobrain agree with you and go closed source. But good job, you'll make 1/8th what a real software developer makes in Patreon bucks for a few years, and you'll set the entire emulation scene back decades for it.
>>259245572Open source allows developers to collaborate and share findings which benefits everyone, but it also allows vultures like Daniel to profit off your work. You can't have one without the other: people like Daniel will blatantly ignore even non-commercial licenses.As the saying goes: just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Socialism doesn't work because there's always that one asshole that will choose to do nothing because he can. Daniel is the asshole that ruins open source for everyone, because he technically can.
>>259237743>including a newspaper article (in dutch) about him and his mother whining about loud noises outside.Source?
>>259195921Nope>>259204580>I cleaned my hands off of himwhat?>>259239910ps1>>259240178Saturn version was developed by a team of rubes.It's got longer loading times, slowdown, rooms missing entirely or broken up into multiple rooms, incorrect resolution resulting in stretched distorted graphics, downsampled audio, missing transparencies (even though the saturn can do them in 2D no problem) etc
>>259246693De Matteis is the guy who pisses in the pool because it's not technically illegal to do so.
>>259245572Is he using the names of snes9x, mame et al. and their authors in his patreon though? Many open source licenses do prohibit that kind of thing. Some versions of BSD licenses explicitly say you can't imply the original authors endorse your product.
>>259246268I'm not SP. I entirely support neobrain if he wishes to go closed source. I have several private repositories myself
>>259247586Same. I seen all too well of people pissing in the well with my own code, but I admit due to the nature of the code, and its target audience, that was bound to happen, so I have my own private version with completely different code so to not run into the same problems as the public one.Still, research from the private one can still funnel into the public version, however.The word "legal" is a really interesting word: Gives you all the reasons to be a utter asshole without any real world consequences. As long as you play by those legal rules.
>>259246693Well, people can ignore ALL licenses. Let's be real here: do you honestly believe Daniel is gonna get sued? Your license is worth nothing if you can't defend it. Worse: if he violates it and you fail to sue him, that fact can be used to argue you don't care about the copyright should you try to sue later.It's the same game big companies play in order to keep emulators in the underground. There's nothing "shady" about emulation. Game consoles aren't protected by copyright and can be reverse engineered and emulated on launch day if people can manage to do it. The fact game companies throw bullshit lawsuits at developers works because they can afford to burn money and time on court proceedings, even though they're in the wrong. That's why people tiptoe around these bullshit companies, they don't want to have to respond to a frivolous lawsuit.Daniel could become one of those companies. Let that sink in.
>>259247586>I entirely support neobrain if he wishes to go closed source. I have several private repositories myselfSame here man. I bet it will be a lot better than Citra.>>259247845>I seen all too well of people pissing in the well with my own codeReally? i wasn't aware anyone messed with your code. What happened? Anyway, nice job on fixing CPU usage on idle.>>259248034>There's nothing "shady" about emulation.When clean room reverse engineered, yes. But M64p is not clean.>Well, people can ignore ALL licenses. Indeed it happens all the time.>Daniel could become one of those companies.Nah, he doesn't have enough competent employees. And he social skills suck, so he won't have too many loyal people working for him.
>>259247845>The word "legal" is a really interesting word: Gives you all the reasons to be a utter asshole without any real world consequences. As long as you play by those legal rules.Well there won't be any *legal* consequences. People can still sue you for bullshit reasons just to burn your time and money on court proceedings, and it takes a lot of time for the fucking judge to decide. It also doesn't protect people from social consequences.My posts are addressing the social consequences. There's nothing wrong with making money off of open source, it's designed to empower the industry with commoditized software. People really need to consider the ramifications of their decisions when they choose a license.
>>259248417>Really? i wasn't aware anyone messed with your code.The EXE packer. Some people started using it for packing shit that would end up getting flagged by AVs. Didn't help at the time I announced the packer at Exetools, I was so naive back then.
>>259248417>When clean room reverse engineered, yes. But M64p is not clean.Yes, but that is one instance of illegal behavior. Emulation as a concept is legal, and this community needs to stand tall and proud. If Sony makes a PS5 and someone manages to create a PCSX5 on launch day, there is nothing they can do except troll him in court. When Atlus DMCA'd some emulator page due to screenshots, they should have fought back, it's called comparative advertising and it's legal and that's exactly what courts told Sony back then when it sued bleem because of screenshots.SP and his enterprise could actually bring about some positive change in that regard if he decides to do the right thing. Since he has money, he will have lawyers and thus the ability to fight off bullshit lawsuits from game companies.
>>259247845>The word "legal" is a really interesting word: Gives you all the reasons to be a utter asshole without any real world consequences.Exactly. What Danny's doing is legal, it's just unethical.>>259247586My mistake then. I support neobrain too.>>259248034>Daniel could become one of those companies.Let's have some perspective. Real companies piss away more money on a business lunch than Danny makes in a month. He's a tin-pot dictator.>>259248529There is no alternative. You don't get to collaborate on improvements and share work freely without opening yourself up to scumbags trying to earn a quick buck off of you.
>>259248609I don't speak Arabic, what does it say?
>>259249489>You don't get to collaborate on improvements and share work freely without opening yourself up to scumbags trying to earn a quick buck off of you.And you think they will stop if you ask them nicely? Hell no. They will just do it until you get lawyers involved and even then if you go to court they just run you through the wringer to continue what they started.Happened with Hyperkin and Retron5. Best to just put the code under a permissive license and not really give a fuck. Best for your sanity then.
>>259249452LOLDaniel asspatters are so funny
>>259249489The thing is: what do you want? Do you want to build software that lasts? Software that will never die? Or do you want to not be taken advantage of?It's perfectly possible to take other people's work, close it up and call it yours, publish it on an app store and make a buck. That's a fork though and will have to be maintained, and that's your work. The upstream project will keep getting better and better, attracting more and more contributors while your ass gets left behind. Do you remember any of the shitty app store emulators out there? Nobody does. Proprietary software always dies. The only reason why we have emulators is we want to preserve the proprietary software that runs on those old machines, we want to preserve them so that they don't die, so that we can still run them in the future.When Linux companies make a closed source driver, the kernel hackers don't give a shit about them. They keep improving and changing everything. Linux gets like 20 fucking patches every hour. Keeping up with all these changes is so costly that it's good business to upstream your changes instead of hoarding proprietary code. If you don't do it, you are left behind like garbage.
>>259250120Sane OSS projects have less literal autistic retards to get through to get shit doneSane OSS projects aren't controlled by one NEET faggot on welfare who uses the name of the project to propel himself up and fund his lifestyle at the expense of othersIs this hunterk? Sounds like hunterk. Always making shitty excuses for SP's shitty behavior.
>>259249906>>259250120That's what it comes down to, doesn't it? Either roll over and take it for the common good, or go closed source. I have mad respect for people who remain open source in spite of people like Hyperkin and De Matteis, but I also understand Cemu and Mikage protecting themselves. The Stallman FOSS zealots are living in a fantasy world.
>>259250037There's nothing "asspatter" about it. The fact is this "scene" is too cowardly to stand up to game company bullshit in court. If he starts using his patreon resources to fight them, he will earn my respect.>>259250513Don't even know who hunterk is. Look, if SP is in control, it's because he's putting in the work and people trust him with their contributions. All it takes to exclude him is for other members of the community to set up a clone of retroarch and start committing their code there instead. SP will probably keep writing code on his own, but that code can be merged back into the fork. It's a simple matter of cherry picking commits.
>>259250840>Look, if SP is in control, it's because he's putting in the work and people trust him with their contributions.Nah, he's hardly putting in any work. People just put too much trust in him.>>259250769>The Stallman FOSS zealots are living in a fantasy world.So true. They are out of touch with reality and probably never made any valuable software.>>259249452>Yes, but that is one instance of illegal behavior.And is a problem because "RetroArch and its Mupen64plus emulator will power the game's Steam version". This is illegal business and they're going to profit from it.
>>259250769With open source, you can have an open version and a proprietary version. You can dual license AGPL and proprietary licenses so that other free software programmers can use your work while companies have to pay. Even if you remain fully open source, you lose nothing but opportunity cost.>The Stallman FOSS zealots are living in a fantasy world.Are they? The Stallman ideal is for software to be fully free and for hackers to get paid for working on projects. If you want a feature, you pay a programmer to hack on the software for you. This is actually very close to how proprietary companies do things: clients phone them up demanding features X, Y and Z, get a quote and work starts. The only difference is the result of the work isn't free.Software is abundant. Good programmers are scarce. People should pay for programmers, not programs.
>>259250840>If he starts using his patreon resources to fight them, he will earn my respect.never in a million years going to happen, either way he uses patreon money to fund his NEET lifestyle, and all his rants about muh entrepreneurs is 100% all talk, he wishes he were one of them.>if SP is in control, it's because he's putting in the work and people trust him with their contributionslmao, hilarious. if he is in control it's because he got 'lucky' jumping onto TheMaister's project before others and got to keep it all after TM fucked off. how is anyone supposed to contest his power when no one else has the keys (patreon, social media, blog, etc.)? plenty of people left the project because it's easier than trying to pull the rug from under the dictator with all the power, and others deal with it because they're pussies and prefer avoiding conflict than being honest about SP's constant unacceptable behavior (see: hunterk)
>>259250840>If he starts using his patreon resources to fight them, he will earn my respect.Anon, he was never interested in fighting them. This whole time he was just wanting to join them.>>259251393>They are out of touch with reality and probably never made any valuable software.Right, and the other half of them are people like Daniel exploiting the useful devs into working for them for free.>>259251496>People should pay for programmers, not programs.Is that why Danny started paying programmers $10 a month salaries?>>259251510hunterk is the biggest yesman in history. So many devs are afraid of standing up to Danny after seeing how thoroughly he broke byuu.
>>259250769>The Stallman FOSS zealots are living in a fantasy worldStallman FOSS zealots usually accept and even desire commercial function.Just also that the source code, and thus information on how it works which can be used to reproduce it, be free and open to use.That's not a fantasy. It's a fair trade possible right now for any program that does not heavily rely on security through obscurity. And a reasonable one at that; ethically, morally, legally, and rationally.If someone's living in a fantasy world, rather, it's control freaks who insist on open sourcing while demanding full control over exactly how the source is used, going so far as to attack people for "stealing code" to fix features in similar software.
>>259251393>Nah, he's hardly putting in any work. People just put too much trust in him.If that's the case, then it's easy for others to assume control of RA. All they have to do is leave him out of the loop. I dunno who pays for the website, buildbot and stuff.>And is a problem because "RetroArch and its Mupen64plus emulator will power the game's Steam version". This is illegal business and they're going to profit from it.That's between those guys and Nintendo. The rest of the scene has nothing to do with it.>>259251510>never in a million years going to happenSad.>how is anyone supposed to contest his power when no one else has the keys (patreon, social media, blog, etc.)?Same way you deal with superseded PGP keys: invalidate and rotate. Fork the project, get a new identity, a new website, new infrastructure, etc. and just move all the development work there. If SP is really so irrelevant, he won't be missed.>plenty of people left the project because it's easier than trying to pull the rug from under the dictator with all the powerLeaving is certainly easier. That is the ultimate power, you can just drop it and leave it all behind, because nobody here is getting paid to put up with this shit. The question is: do you care enough to do what it takes to usurp him?
>>259250840>If he starts using his patreon resources to fight themWhy he didn't do that already? His patreon is over two years old.
>>259252083Many devs have been very vocal that they don't want their work commercialized in RetroArch. So even though he can do it, even if those emudevs misunderstood what the GPL was, it's still a dickhead move. A fully legal dickhead move.
>>259252153>If SP is really so irrelevant, he won't be missed.No one wants to deal with him and his crazy ass followers going after them if they try it.
>>259252083>If someone's living in a fantasy world, rather, it's control freaks who insist on open sourcing while demanding full control over exactly how the source is used, going so far as to attack people for "stealing code" to fix features in similar software.Exactly this.>>259252204I don't know.>>259252041>This whole time he was just wanting to join them.This implies there's some other group to join in the first place, as if emulation wasn't legitimate. We're not some mafia converting illegal business into clean business. We've always been part of it. When other people refuse to do business with us or sue us, they're being anticompetitive. This is something this scene needs to internalize.I DO NOT agree when Haze and others criticize him for "bringing the heat" on this "scene", as if emulation is some sort of shady dealing that only criminals are involved in. That's a disservice to everyone in this community.>Is that why Danny started paying programmers $10 a month salaries?That's probably because he's too poor to do better.
>>259252793This, most PRODUCTIVE RetroArch contributors have real jobs, limited free time etc., while SP is NEET on welfare with nothing to lose and is a known rager and harasser, he could easily spend all day sending hit pieces to journos and emailing people's bosses like he's done before. That's trouble to think about on top of the work needed to organize such a project in the first place. Rebranding RA is easier said than done
>>259252442Opinions of devs don't matter. What matters is the license.
>>259252793Just ignore them. Set up your own spaces and exclude them from it. What are they going to do, show up at your doorstep?>>259253132Well that's a good point. Looks like SP has more time to sink into these projects than others.
>>259253157A license is useless if its not actively and aggressively enforced.
>>259253281That only applies to criminals. There are way more law-abiding developers to read the license and use the software appropriately.
>>259252442Yeah it's a dickhead move, yeah he's a hypocrite. So what? Such people are a dime a dozen.I really agree with those kiwifags. This drama is boring and generic. There's no depth.This is just some moral conundrum about someone feeling wronged about someone else making relatively easy money, as shallow as a plate of water, and that's it. I don't get why you guys are freaking out.
>>259253460You assume too much. Companies gladly piss on licenses UNTIL they are challenged in court.
>>259253460>That only applies to criminals.No, that's how trademark works, if you don't enforce it repeatedly it's considered abandoned.
>>259253823it could be considered abandoned*
>>259253818Companies are a drop in the ocean when it comes to people who use open source software. >>259253823Maybe in your third world country, but not here. Besides, we are talking about software licences, not trademarks.
i don't get it. that guy daniel is absolutely miserable irl. some of you may be as well, but his misery is completely of his own doing. why do you ppl really care if he makes some money so he can continue doing stuff for you?
>>259253990>Maybe in your third world country, but not here. Besides, we are talking about software licences, not trademarks.lmao
>>259253201Probably not, but he will start e-mailing your bosses trying to get you fired.>>259253793No, I agree with you. My only contention was people defending Daniel. He's scum, but he's not breaking any laws other than welfare tax evasion. If we agree on that, and treat him as just another Hyperkin, then there's no issue.>I really agree with those kiwifagsI still want to see the original post though.
>>259254460>so he can continue doing stuff for you?U kidding me? What he's doing is immoral and potentially illegal.He's a fraud. He's doing this for his own personal benefit, not for us.>>259255749>I still want to see the original post though.Same. I bet the OP didn't even properly expose the guy. I can't imagine them being uninterested in SP, if they know who he really is. His bodybuilding forum posts alone are hilarious. Then there's the retroarch leaks and all the chat logs.
>>259254460We want the emulation scene to be better so we can get better software and less leeches turning people off the scene entirely or making it harder for them to keep contributing.
>>259255941>His bodybuilding forum posts alone are hilarious. wot
>>259255941>I can't imagine [...] being uninterested in SPThat much is obvious.I can't imagine caring anywhere near as much as you do. As far as I see it, you're the abnormal one. He's nothing special. That bodybuilding forum is filled with genuine nutjobs.
>reading the libretro emudev thread on ledditSo what's the story between SP and this Haze?
>>259255941SP would make an excellent lolcow. You say one thing bad about him and he shows up in your Discord for hours ranting at you and flexing to pull his support if they don't ban you. Or he goes off on a tangent about how shitty your country is because he doesn't like your bug report reply. Or he sends you 100 messages and complains to your employer because you want to change your license.Having a forum where others could air their grievances anonymously while his sycophants can't white knight him would be hilarious. You just know he'd sign up to defend himself.Damn shame the KF OP did such a shit job. Wouldn't surprise me if it was Danny himself sabotaging the effort.
>chooses a license for their emulator that explicitly allows commercial usage>complains when people use that emulator commercially
>>259257037Yeah no shit. Here's what these mentally ill people think:Re: mednafen/beetle, we offered the HLE renderers upstream and ryphecha said "no thanks." So we're supposed to throw those away? Those took real work to create. What are the other options? Write another emu from scratch, reinvent the wheel? Or exercise the freedom explicitly granted in the license to add changes as we see fit, so long as those changes are provided with the same freedoms.Well, if you don't want tensions between yourself and the original author, yes. They didn't write the code thinking it would end up being some HLE mess, or be leveraged for that purpose. Technically, sure, you're not in the wrong, but it isn't going to create goodwill.
>>259256265>I can't imagine caring anywhere near as much as you do.We're talking about KF lol.. This is what they're into, not that I personally care that much.Personally, I think he's a scumbag and also enjoy reading about emudrama posted on this site.>That bodybuilding forum is filled with genuine nutjobs.Yeah, lots of white supremacists on there.>As far as I see it, you're the abnormal one.Anyone deeply invested about emulation would care about the corruption going on. Personally, I deal with it by going closed source from now on. That's my solution to the problem. I won't have to deal with these parasites who also happen to be hypocrites.>>259256824>SP would make an excellent lolcow. You say one thing bad about him and he shows up in your Discord for hours ranting at you and flexing to pull his support if they don't ban you.exactly! I'm surprised some anon(s) on here seem to think he isn't a lolcow.>Wouldn't surprise me if it was Danny himself sabotaging the effort.That's hilarious. Never thought of it that way. Now that I think about it, I do find it weird that the OP isn't shown. >>259256159Well said, anon.
>>259257258Goodwill isn't exactly necessary if you don't want to cooperate anyway, though.Especially if the original dev/manager doesn't want the cooperation offered, like HLE renderers or speedhacks.Not everyone has to get along. That's impossible anyway, due to conflicts in opinion and morals inherent to simply being different people.
>>259257378>This is what they're intoNot quite.Like that one post in the screenshot up there said, people calling someone out for being "problematic" and "harassing" is just going to be immediately disregarded.They'd take SP's side, if anything.>Anyone deeply invested about emulation would care about the corruption going onAgain, not quite.Anyone deeply invested in personal relationships within emulation development, and how someone makes money off things, would care.That's not inherent to being deeply invested in emulation itself.Hell, I'd say they're antithetical to each other, since doing one easily prevents the other. Like most work versus worrying about dramatic bullshit.
>>259257380Holy shit SP dropped the ball hard there. Why the fuck would you go on someone else's project's page just to tell them its worthless and to use your project instead? That's fucked up.>>259257573Yeah, I agree. The thing about free software is it has a lide od its own. You write this little thing and it can end up in some unexpected application or completely modified. These emudevs are trying to control what other people are doing with their own forks on their own time as if they had a say. That's offensive. Don't release the software at all if you're gonna be such a primma donna
>>259257573Yeah but SP doesn't have to go out of his way to antagonize developers, insult them, and call them out.I'm willing to bet if he had any manners, and was able to communicate disagreements without sperging out and turning everyone against him, people would be more willing to collaborate.
>>259258260>Yeah but SP doesn't have to go out of his way to antagonize developers, insult them, and call them out.And people don't have to do that to him either, but they sure as hell do. There's people here dedicated to doing just that.It's a vicious and hypocritical cycle.
>>259258028>Hell, I'd say they're antithetical to each other, since doing one easily prevents the other. Like most work versus worrying about dramatic bullshit.Now that is bullshit. I didn't care at all about RA drama until I had to deal with SP personally *because* I was involved as a developer, and wanted to contribute to RA. Guess what happened? I disagreed about a design decision and he went on one of his usual rage rants and banned me from his server for not sucking his dick (actually I called him out on his behavior, he was PMing me on the side and all that as he does).Truth is if you are involved with libretro at all as a developer you are at risk of being dragged into it, because all it takes is for you to say "I disagree, I think that (...)" for the discussion to devolve into him googling your name and shaming you based on your nationality or occupation.
>>259258434People antagonize him here because he is an utter and complete asshole who ruins relationships in the emu scene and no one calls him out on his behavior otherwise. He antagonizes people for disagreeing with him, so for no good reason, insulting them in public, e-mailing their bosses, and such.It's a vicious cycle because SP can't stop himself from making an enemy of people who disagree with him about anything. You can't expect one "side" to just keep taking the abuse and never say anything back, while SP keeps profiting off other people's work and treating them like shit at the same time.
>>259258565>(actually I called him out on his behavior, he was PMing me on the side and all that as he does)>I actually used dicksword, knowing it's a place literally for discord, started an argument, couldn't defuse it at all, and then called out a clearly aggressive individual knowing full well it would respond forcefully. Yet I TOTALLY care don't care about drama.Oh. Okay.Personally I prefer to just fork things and leave simple pull requests whenever contributing, rather than bothering with drama chats. And just leave it forked and rebase when necessary if they don't accept changes for whatever reason. Simple as is.IRC was hell back in the day too, though not quite as bad, it was still something to be avoided.
>>259192693>Hear /emugen/ talking about making a thread on you>Make Kiwifarms thread on yourself first, only posting screencaps of other people sperging about you>Make it sound like a personal army request>Claim he's (you're) not a cow at the first sign of criticism, ask to cancel the thread before it goes publicCongratulations Kiwifarms, you just got played.Hat-tip to Daniel, he's a master tard wrangler.
>>259259373Also, now any future threads on him immediately look suspicious. The more I think about it, the more ingenius it is.
>>259258028>They'd take SP's side, if anything.Yeah right.. I'm not sure if you are just unaware, or if you're personally involved with RA. As the other anon said, SP is definitely a lolcow. His old blog was gold too.>Like most work versus worrying about dramatic bullshit.You can play pretend games all you want, but simply pretending there isn't a problem isn't going to make the problem go away.If you're an emulation developer, RA can still have a negative impact on you, even if you don't engage in any conversations with SP.>>259258434>It's a vicious and hypocritical cycle.You really fail at pretending to be neutral. There's nothing hypocritical about calling out hypocrites.>>259258565>Now that is bullshit.Agreed. I'm starting to believe he's someone who's currently involved with the project.>>259259505I know right!
>themaister ported higan to libretro and tried to upstream itHow can one man be so based? He's the only guy in the community that's completely positive and drama-free. I thought he had left.
>>259259205>called out a clearly aggressive individual knowing full well it would respond forcefullyNo I didn't since I didn't look up who he was until after the fact. Try reading, you idiot.Do you really think everyone googles Daniel de Matteis before talking to him? Do you think we all expect Mr. Libretro to be an unstable asshole who can't discuss with people sanely? That's why he makes enemies out of everyone, he just starts shit uncalled for, and unless you're enough of a wuss to run away or tell him all he says is right it never ends well because even if you try to end the conversation he keeps ranting for 3 hours.
anyone know how to delete game updates for RPCS3
>>259257258>So we're supposed to throw those away? Those took real work to create. What are the other options?Have you thought about maybe asking Ryphecha if he wanted an HLE renderer before you went and made one?>Write another emu from scratchThat would be nice, too bad you only LARP being an emudev.>>259257378Not to mention how did that poster get that screenshot? Is he a KF admin or is he the original thread poster, aka Daniel? I have an account and I still can't see the thread.>>259258190Did you see his Youtube spergout? A guy posted a video of Reicast and Daniel showed up with a wall of text because he didn't review RetroArch instead.
>>259258565>him googling your name and shaming you based on your nationality or occupation.Example?
>>259259809>No I didn't since I didn't look up who he was until after the fact.Doesn't take knowing the person beforehand. If it goes on a rant then it's clearly aggressive, and it's clearly going to respond badly when called out, likely by ranting more.Wasting time fighting with it on a chat literally designed to spread discord is not productive. Quite antithetical to productivity, even.It's open source, so you just leave it at that, forking and submitting pulls. Git exists, and largely removes the need for relationships.Getting along with everyone is a fucking pipe dream. Especially thoroughly opinionated project managers. I learned that decades ago.
>>259259994Literally just search something like>ps3 game updates downloadand you get tons of results. Here's a couplehttps://store.brewology.com/updates.phphttps://ps3packages.herokuapp.com/list
>>259259994>>259260510lol oops, my bad. I misread "delete" as "download".
>>259260075>Have you thought about maybe asking Ryphecha if he wanted an HLE renderer before you went and made one?Why? Even if Rhyphecha didn't want it, others certainly did, including the guy that coded it."No don't do that, it's not part of my vision" is a glorious reason for a fork, to add what the other person wants.Doesn't prevent work on Mednafen at all, doesn't ruin the "vision" for Mednafen, and what the other person wants gets done, even if Rhyphecha doesn't want it done at all. Win/win/win/lose.And it's a very small loss, production of an emotion of wanting a program to not exist. Something that happens constantly with fart apps.Wasn't it simias who wrote the renderers, anyway? I'm pretty sure he's still on good terms with Rhyphecha.
>>259260410notable examples include constantly berating radius over being latin american (most recently calling him "little Juan" and implying he is mentally ill because his country is doing poorly), and harassing an ukrainian emulator developer and making references to the situation with russia to belittle him. Oh and he did the same thing with me after I had my first encounter with him. Googled my name and went after my nationality and occupation. Only afterwards did I realize it wasn't his first time doing it.>>259260414Most people going off on the wrong foot can be reasoned with. You're Daniel, a Daniel bootlicker or a troll if you seriously think anyone other than him is to blame when he decides to rage at people for politely disagreeing with him. I'm leaning towards the second option.>Getting along with everyone is a fucking pipe dream.Having respectful conversations with people isn't; all you have to do is distance yourself from insane people like Daniel, which is what I and others have done. I now choose to now laugh at him from afar and pray that he dies or fucks off for the good of libretro, RetroArch and the emulation scene.
>>259260938The difference is, do you want to have drama because you went against Saint Ryphecha, or do you want to have positive relations with the people who make your whole emulator frontend possible in the first place? Talk about biting the hand that feeds.
>>259259070>It's a vicious cycle because SP can't stop himself from making an enemy of people who disagree with him about anything.I agree. First time I encountered SP was in /vr/ and I criticized his libretro input system. He got pretty assblasted about it. Some years later I did the same thing on emugen, even logged in on #retroarch IRC to argue about it after he challenged us anonymous cowards to do it. Some of us apparently got through to him since I came back here days ago and people confirmed to me he added the features I and many others suggested back then. It's fucked up.I mean holy fuck how hard is it to take other people seriously? Back on /vr/ he made an enemy out of windows users (calling them winbloze retards who SHOULD be 2nd tier citizens), keyboard users (his mind couldn't understand the idea that someone might want play games with a keyboard), CRT users (by claiming they're autists with poor taste because the pixelated looks better), basically everyone in the entire board was retarded according to him. To me it's impossible to mention the name "SP" without conjuring up my memory of that thread, and it's fucked up how he did all that, ended up agreeing years later and STILL has the same bullshit ego that actively stops his software from transcending his own personal limitations.
>>259261489>it's fucked up how he did all that, ended up agreeing years later and STILL has the same bullshit ego that actively stops his software from transcending his own personal limitations.Imagine what RetroArch would be if Themaister didn't abandon it. Even in spite of Daniel, it's undisputably one of the biggest players in emulation. People clearly want the idea of RetroArch. Yet Danny can't raise more than $1300 a month, while Cemu was banking over $50000 a month at its peak, and $5500 a month now, for just one emulator for one of the worst systems in history.
>>259259668>SP is definitely a lolcowMore like he turns others into lolcows. He may type a lot, and be very opinionated, but very little of it is entertaining.Angry responses from others have far more entertainment value, especially to people uninvolved.They're shit-stirrers just like he is.>but simply pretending there isn't a problem isn't going to make the problem go awayIt doesn't have to go away. It's a non-issue to begin with. He's incredibly opinionated and aggressive, so don't engage.You can contribute and be deeply involved with development without ever engaging socially. To any open source project anywhere. Fork it if need be for whatever changes you want, and only ever interact to rebase.>If you're an emulation developer, RA can still have a negative impact on youOnly if you invest yourself emotionally with relationships.As long as code stays open there's no need for any of that. Invest yourself in emulation, not people.>There's nothing hypocritical about calling out hypocrites.There is about calling out hypocrites for calling out others. Like literally "How dare you call out others" while doing just the same.It may not be obvious, but I don't like SP either. It's just there's a million others like him. He's not special. Especially once you get into political bullshit.It's not difficult to stay productive and distanced socially. It's not difficult to keep working.
>>259260075So people need permission to work on improvements? That's fucking retarded. I've sent in my fair share of patches and not once did someone get offended that I didn't ask their blessing beforehand. In fact, it's common courtesy to NOT waste people's time with ideas that haven't been executed yet -- have an idea? code it up and SHOW its value, let it speak for itself, don't be the idea guy. Many of my patches were accepted, some were not, some got rejected because upstream simply didn't want the features I implemented, and you know what upstream told me? "I'm sorry you did all that work but it's not the direction I want to take as a maintainer. You are of course free to apply those patches to your own version" and that was the end of it. Could I have maintained my own version? Yes, but I didn't want to. This was a GNU project. They know how free software works.It is completely asshole move to release free software and then act like it's not free software. When you use GPL or BSD or MIT, it sends a very strong signal to people about what they can or can't do. It is completely unacceptable to preach to them about unwritten rules.
>>259262116Since you're obviously an SP apologist and there's no convincing idiots with Stockholm syndrome or desperate for asspats I'll point out to everyone else that most OSS projects are led by sane people and you don't have to deal with retards like SP. Start your own project or help out someone who's worth it. I would recommend some projects but I don't want to be bring SP or his gang of asspatters to them. There are many promising emulator projects, go for the ones with discrete and intelligent authors.
>>259261275Normally there wouldn't be any drama because going against others' wishes in your own versions is the absolute norm for open source.Splitting off should not cause any negative relations, and if it does then it's not worth having relations at all with such a person.
>>259239268Nothing he said in that post was wrong.
>>259262525Yeah, sure, I'm an apologist because I don't think the fag deserves special attention. Kiss my ass.Thankfully I've already contributed to other projects, sane leaders or otherwise, and will continue to do so without worrying about drama. Because doing so is easier than getting caught up in this shit.PPSSPP is great for that, by the way. Very clear communication on exactly how things work, no offtopic stuff to naturally ignore. Really have to praise that [U] guy.
>>259262116>More like he turns others into lolcows.He does that as well. But even if that were the only case, they had a thread on Sonicfox for that same reason.>Angry responses from others have far more entertainment value, especially to people uninvolved.It sounds like KF disagreed from that one screencap shared here. The Manglement said all the OP textwalls were other people sperging out. I would happen to agree with you though.>They're shit-stirrers just like he is.But it always involves him. That's what makes him such an interesting target.>>259262309>So people need permission to work on improvements?Only if you want to be on good terms with the upstream devs. If you don't, then pull a Daniel, and don't be surprised when you're always involved in drama.>It is completely unacceptable to preach to them about unwritten rules.What is the alternative license that allows people to collaborate with you but not fork your code with a bunch of features that contradict your goals so they can sell it on Steam?
>>259260075>A guy posted a video of Reicast and Daniel showed up with a wall of text because he didn't review RetroArch instead.I didn't see that, I've been away from this scene for years. That's fucked up.
>>259260779Lmao. How the fuck is it possible to bring ukraine/russia politics to an emulator project?
>>259261004>notable examples include constantly berating radius over being latin american (most recently calling him "little Juan" and implying he is mentally ill because his country is doing poorly)Whty the fuck would you do that? It's one thing to shitpost on /int/ or /sp/ but by doing it in real life to people's faces he's alienating potential contributors and damaging his reputation.
>>259263068>What is the alternative license that allows you to take work from others, but refuse them to produce changes they want in a completely separate fork?There are a few. But I seriously hope no one ever uses them. Because that's antithetical to open source productivity.Stuff that contradicts your goals can exist in separate versions. You never have to maintain it, support it, use it, or even touch it.If you can't handle the very idea of software just existing that uses your work yet doesn't match your specific goals, yet you use free work from others in software (that may not match their goals entirely), then there is something seriously wrong.
>>259262909The only reason he gets such attention is because he is CONSISTENTLY an asshole to EVERYONE and goes OUT OF HIS WAY to insult people. If it were just him vs. MAME or whatever most likely no one would care, but SP is deranged and you can't count the number of people who stopped contributing to RA/lr solely because of him.>>259263649Because he's mentally ill, in case him being NEET on welfare didn't make it obvious enough
>>259261739Maybe the maister did the right thing by leaving it all behind. Look at the mess this community became. Last time I saw his github it said he was working at ARM norway, sounds like a pretty nice job if you ask me
>>259263649>Whty the fuck would you do that? It's one thing to shitpost on /int/ or /sp/ but by doing it in real life to people's faces he's alienating potential contributors and damaging his reputation.Because he can get away with it. There are still people dumb enough to contribute to "his" projects and most of /r/emulation/'s mods are behind him, deleting any criticism of RA.The casual crowd doesn't even know or care about this either.
>>259263068>Only if you want to be on good terms with the upstream devs. If you don't, then pull a Daniel, and don't be surprised when you're always involved in drama.No, in this case the upstream devs are clearly wrong. They have absolutely no right to interfere in other people's work just because it involves their software. Other people can take their software in any direction they want. That IS the point of free software. If you can't accept that, then you're bullshitting people. You're saying, "this is free/open source software, please contribute some code" and when people do things that don't please you, that's when you reveal your true intentions. Those people deserve to be called out and shunned.>What is the alternative license that allows people to collaborate with you but not fork your code with a bunch of features that contradict your goals so they can sell it on Steam?I dunno. But if that's how you want to play then say so up front so that I won't be suckered into contributing to a project under false pretenses. It's fucked up to call out others for exercising the freedoms you gave them just because you weren't clear about your intentions from the start. It's entirely your fault for not closing your source up or whatever it is you feel you need to do to maintain control. But if you did that you would not get to enjoy the benefits of open source, right? All those developers contributing for free?
>>259243745>unzip full u and j ps sets>delete zips>run chd batch>done 20 hours later>delete bins and cues>wake up>read this post>overwhelming remorse>delete everything>start downloading redump torrents againThis feels really bad.
>>259261004>Googled my name and went after my nationality and occupationHe did the same to Logan too LOL.>>259262116>but very little of it is entertaining.Why is that? I laughed at that picture of him harassing the youtuber for advertising a dreamcast emulator. Did you not find it funny when Squarepusher begged Logan to come back? The dude was so cringey lol.>Angry responses from others have far more entertainment valueI'd love to see some examples, because I'm having a very hard time believing this.>Fork it if need be for whatever changes you want, and only ever interact to rebase.At that point, why even open source? The point of open source is to collaborate, and what you suggest is to essentially be a lone wolf.>It may not be obvious, but I don't like SP either.You sure seem to side with him a lot, for someone who claims to not like SP.>It's not difficult to keep working.Right, but I'd argue it is difficult to "not care". He's gone as far as to try and get people fired from their jobs IRL. That's not something you should just ignore.>>259265023>All those developers contributing for free?Who even contributed to mednafen? I'm sure she would have accepted a PR for CHD support.
>>259265523>he actually fell for the chd shillingthat's what you get
Remember when SP used to come here on 4chan?https://warosu.org/vr/thread/S1075427#p1076876lol
>>259212686me on the right
>>259266130I know, but in the past emugen has steered me right more times than it's steered me wrong.
>>259265840>The point of open source is to collaborateThe point of open source is to let the source be readable and usable by the public, so that anyone can contribute, anyone can maintain, and anyone can benefit.Collaboration is optional and always has been. You could collaborate when closed source too, with tight rules even (Though usually with monetary compensation to make collaborators tolerate such limitations). That has nothing to do with source availability at all.If you disagree with the way a maintainer handles things such that you actually need to (Hence "if need be"), maintaining a fork is easy enough. At least just for the task of getting your code available and usable by the public.Nowadays you don't even have to pay for any hosting, and sites come with git integrated.Having a fork repo makes pull requests simpler too, hence why almost every active project on github has countless "forked from". Dolphin, for example, has 1,261.Submitting pull requests does not require engaging with people. You submit it, then only respond to on topic posts, if need be, never anything dramatic.>You sure seem to side with him a lotDichotomies can kiss my ass too.I side against siding against it, not with it. Same with any other jackass opinionated maintainer. Fueling fires is stupid as hell. Even if they burn on their own, wasting your fuel is stupid as HELL.If you honestly believe it's doing something worth punishment, like harassing people, then take it to a legal authority.Not necessarily a physical one; try bitching at the hosts of sites it uses to harass people with.Just being offended at it and arguing with it isn't going to do anything but make shit worse, that's just how these people are. They are everywhere.Things have always worked that way. In open source, in closed source, in business and in hobby.
pictured: game that can't run in RetroArch because libretro has a shitty API and RetroArch is a shitty frontend
>>259268353>Mario committing police brutality against completely unarmed Goombashow does he get away with it?Is the Mushroom Kingdom legislature just turning a blind eye to these acts?
>>259269082They support it because goombas attack people just trying to travel.
>>259266570We are objectively the best. Nobody but a few dumbasses for whom this shit is too hard will dispute that.What I really don't care about, though, is about faggot-ass Winbloze users. You guys are sad pathetic stunted men - and I really don't give a shit about you lot.You are treated as second-class citizen by design.--> Boxart shit> Stupid shittalk over GUI shit> Catalogue shit> Acting like this is important vs. the actual meat and potatoesAnd then you wonder why I don't respect Winbloze tards. You people are idiots.-->I use a keyboard. So Retroarch is so niche that it requires a controller to properly use it?Joke's on you, no one else is retarded enough to play console games with the keyboard.--->Or so it seems. I don't use retroarch, but apparently you guys attempted to create an abstract ideal controller with the perfect layout called retropad and then map emulator core input to it instead.>That's retarded. What you should have done is introduced a way for libretro API implementors to auto-discover controller layout and hardware characteristics via core-provided metadata about the system's input devices. This way, configuration would be a lot easier and specific to the system being emulated, and you also get half of the "per-system configuration" feature for free, which is something people actually want.Fuck no. What you are suggesting is retarded instead.RetroPad is great and a DualShock-type controller is what EVERY MAJOR GAME CONSOLE THESE DAYS USES. IT IS THE STANDARD. There is no fucking reason whatsoever to diverge from it.
>>259269798What's the practical difference between mupen64plus-next, parallel, and little logan's m64p?
>>259270064Standalone is still superior to RA. Although if you're on Windows, PJ64 is better than anything else.
>>259270064Parallel is dead and m64p is a shit UI that barely works.
>>259269982> Looks at the date> 2013time to let it go anon and stop wasting your life
>>259270197>>259270219The last time I did an n64 playthrough was over a decade ago on pj64. I'd like to go through BK again, so pj64 is still the best option? Was somewhat hoping to use shaders, but if the cores have issues, I'd be willing to settle.
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>>259265523>>delete everything>>start downloading redump torrents again>This feels really bad.This is legit autism.
>>259270540It's just a bookmarked thread, I have a big collection of those
>>259270681>I'd like to go through BK again, so pj64 is still the best option?If you have good hardware, then the performance overhead from using RA is probably not going to matter much to you, unless you're doing LLE. I'm not sure how well m64p/RA handles BK, but I know it freezes in BT. I'd say if you really want to use shaders, try RA first.
>>259270681I personally don't like PJ64. The dumb fucking "Support us" ad keeps coming back even though I've entered the code, the keyboard shortcuts straight up don't work and I can't get widescreen hacks working.I've never had an issue with the Mupen-Next core beyond Retroarches UI being kinda weird but that's what I'd recommend.
>>259267640I'd like to say the same. But I'm really not sure since I discriminate between practical merit and read upsides and downsides rather than straight recommendations and advertisements.Usually this place gives me the information I want, after digging through and ignoring the useless shit. It's just rarely straightforward, and incredibly biased.CHD has usefulness in reasonable per sector compression, for random access as you would want when live reading discs, and reducing the disc down to a single file.The only downside to the format itself, support aside, is the audio re-encoding. Which is only a downside for 1:1 purism, because FLAC is indeed both lossless and drastically more efficient at compression than standard CD audio.I remember being told there's a switch in chdman to compress to CHD without re-encoding, so that it would be reversible, but I can't find such a thing anywhere.Might check the archive to see posts about it.
>>259270681If your hardware is good enough you can emulate the 360 version in Xenia (With a non-cucked build)XBLA Banjo-Kazooie is so much better
>>259271232Is the 3shitty version closer to the Nshitty4, or the XBOX?
>>259270805Oh I agree completely. With games that give you detailed character creation, I've been known to restart repeatedly several hours deep after I discover some extremely minor aesthetic flaw, or because suddenly the name sounds wrong in my head.
>>259243745Who gives a shit? Why would you need to convert back?
>>259271441Oh, nevermind. Confounded it with Conker, which has an OG XBOX port.Thought it was a situation like Jak's, where the PS3 versions are more of a recreation, and the PS4 versions are enhanced ports of the originals, rather than the PS3 recreation.
>>259271010Is there a benefit to using angrylion for BK, or is there no practical difference between that and HLE? I've got an 8700k so performance hopefully wouldn't be a factor.>>259271017I remember reading something about PJ64 adware, I wonder if that's still a thing.>>259271232Would never have guessed 360 emulation was good enough to be worthwhile yet, very interesting.
>>259271898They don't include actual adware anymore, but they do have this stupid fucking "pwease support us" message that sticks around for 30 fucking seconds on every boot, which is supposed to go away after you input a key, but doesn't
>>259272142There's a really easy way to disable that if you're not a complete brainlet.[Support Project64]Run Count=-1
>>259272946Not worth it, just use something else
B-b-b-b-based! Haters on suicide watch.
>>259273334>doesn't know reddit fudges vote scoresI'm outing myself, but at least I'm not memeing lies.
>>259273334Sellin it for 30 bucks too. Danny got some balls! Mad respect
>>259273062>Not worth it, just use something elseNothing else is good though. Standalone mupen is a joke. m64p's behind a paywall. RA sux. Don't get me wrong, PJ64 has its flaws, but i'd still rather use it over any variant of mupen.>>259271898>Is there a benefit to using angrylion for BK, or is there no practical difference between that and HLE?I'm not aware of any notable graphical glitches in HLE for BK. So I'd go with HLE.
>>259273334based and capitalistpilled
>>259273553They do that with the karma score itself, but I don't think the % on OPs changes.
>>259273706RA Mupen-Plus-Next easily works the best
Since you guys tend to hang out in the libretro chats, something I came across today if anyone cares to let squarepusher or whoever is in charge of it know that Trials of mana is missing from their database. Or not, I don't really care.https://db.libretro.com/Nintendo%20-%20Super%20Nintendo%20Entertainment%20System/index-109.html
https://github.com/PCSX2/pcsx2/pull/3001>MergedOh damn. I've got to test Jak later then.https://github.com/PCSX2/pcsx2/pull/2835>OpenAh shit. Guess 2 is out of the question for now then. Maybe Jak 3 and X might work better, and the eyes on all of them should work without fucking other textures.HOPES and DREAMS.
Are there any superior Japanese emulators folded 1000 times?
>>259278804bsnes/higan is a wapanese emulator, but snes9x is better. There's also SSF, but mednafen is better as well.
>>259279049snes9x can't do HD mode 7 or widescreen.
>>259279797I guess, but I don't know why you'd want either of those things.
>>259280423There's also Super Game Boy support, a cheat code database, screenshots on save states, it runs some games 9x can't, has better Satellaview emulation, and a nicer GUI. I like it more anyway.
How is the PS3's PSX emu? If I don't care about graphical improvements, is it preferable to using an emulator on PC?
>>259281653Yes, that's what most people here use.
Anyone here use a DS3 wired on PC?
>>259279049>There's also SSF, but mednafen is better as wellIts not
>>259276112>Oh damn. I've got to test Jak later thenThe PR which fixes the eyes is still open
>>259276112Finally Jak is fixed............ I will test it right away.
>>259276112eyes still busted
>>259285135I use a DS3, what's your issue?
PCSX2 fixed one of the issues with Radiata Stories, or rather the only issue with it. Happy days, I wonder if Valkyrie Profile 2 works properly now, can anyone check?
>>259290158>if Valkyrie Profile 2Purple forest still in the game.
>>259290261What about the blurriness in the starting town for instance?
>>259290456On dx11 it's blurry even at 4x native resolution.OpenGL only improves a little, but there is now a blur following the character.
>>259290940Yeah it's really messed up, it wasn't always that bad and you can mess with it a bit but sounds like it's still broken. I don't even care to play the game but I've been checking up on it for a long time for whatever reason. Just yesterday I stored it on a laptop I never use though since I'm running low on storage.I'm happy about Radiata Stories though, I'm moving over my saves and what not right now and I'm going to test the crap out of it on this new build.
Bad UI? What do you mean? RetroArch UI is perfect! Look at that amazing number picker!
Why isn't setting your own custom resolution in PCSX2 recommended?
>>259291790>Snes9x 2010 1.52.4
setting up RPCS3 right now, just for Tokyo Jungle.
>>259293564Who gives a shit? Fuck off with your lobg
>>259219292This will go well
>>259293564Huh, that actually looks pretty good. If you've set it up, how well is it emulated?
>>259287512>>259289541>https://github.com/PCSX2/pcsx2/pull/3018Oh okay. It was only put up for pull request yesterday, so I have some hope for that one.The timing one has been open for months though.That one causes issues in at least one other game. Which is supposedly just an issue that was hidden by inaccurate emulated vsync timing, and uncovered by this change, which is supposedly more accurate. But still apparently worth holding up the pull on.
>>259296572works well in 2560x1440 even. try it out
>>259292239because it fucks up scaling and causes black lines between textures.
>>259297648Well, it can also fix them too, depending on the game and other hacks used.Kuon, for example, I've found works better with 3800x1080 res and 450x150 TC offset. Where with a straight integer resolution I could not get the TC to match up as well for the bloom alignment.>>259292239It's not recommended because it's a much wider and more unexpected variable range to work with that no one cares to test.And because it does scale by non-integer, which can easily fuck up textures, especially nearest scaled ones. More often than it fixes things, for sure.But I'm glad the option is there.People being against adding options is very confusing to me.
Everyone knows mode 7, and that it displays things in a certain way with certain limitations.But what mode is this? 240x208 with black borders. All field screens, isometric stuff here, use this. FF6 does the same for its field as well.I'd assume it's a limited mode for better layered rendering or something. But assuming is gay.
>>259307831what mode is overscan?
Today:>[10:22 AM] Autechre: that's definitely a bad thing about EpicTomorrow:RetroArch coming to epic game store!
>>259307876Looking into it, there is no required overscan for modes, so it is indeed a stylistic choice, yeah.If it was done for the entire game that would be cool and croppable with custom viewport positioning. But menus, battles, and the world map are 256x224, so that's mildly annoying.Still curious what mode it is. Thinking mode 3 since there's seemingly only two background layers, one of which is quite colorful.Gonna have to play in a program with a debugger easily accessible to find out, I guess.
> can I get even more banned?yes you can
>>259311652Just run Android x86 in VMware
https://github.com/RPCS3/rpcs3/pull/6207You can now make some games run at 2x their locked framerate on RPCS3.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeAxp9UAF7o
>>259256168see >>259239268>>259311365If you ever mention a feature that any software has that RA is lacking, SP usually rages.
>>259196667>I was considering getting a 5700 XT, but I'm worried about CEMUCEMU started working on a Vulkan backend btw.
>>259318864Twinaphex is an out of control bully.
>>259319073Honestly I don't remember, I don't think there was nothing bad on that thread.
>>259316737Meanwhile Xenia had completely unlocked framerates 1000 years ago
>>259240815I think nippon made him realize that burgers aren't actually the most racist, xenophobic, homophobic culture in the world. He tweeted at one point that he was frustrated because multiple apartment complexes had refused to rent to him on the basis that he's a foreigner.
>>259319529So did RPCS3, this is for games with with framerate caps, not games with dynamic framerate.
>>259319821Yeah Xenia can unlock capped games too and they aren't limited to 60
>>259319930It can turn off vsync, same thing RPCS3 has always been able to do. But if a game doesn't have dynamic framerate it'll run at 2x speed when running at 2x framerate.
>>259319646>burgers aren't actually the most racist, xenophobicUSA is pretty bad in that regard Tbh pham.
>>259319529maybe one day it'll get off of windows 10 too
>>259311365Daniel must pay for this crime.
>>259319646Japan is based.
>>259321726Honestly a properly manually maintained Win10 is better than Win7 stock so you really should switch now before Microsoft makes even worse new versions of Windows.
does byuu still live in japan?
>>259300404interesting thanks. I've never had an issue with it so I was wondering
>>259320884Which is stupid since USA was created by immigrants and is as much of a multicultural shithole as south american countries. They used to be a truly free and proud country but even that they lost after becoming slaves to the international banking jew in the 1930s.
>>259323782There is nothing wrong with using RA though
>>259326028Was he always like that? I lost respect for him.
>>259326179Money changes people
>>259326179He's literally defending the fact that SP stalks and harasses people.hunterk is just as much of a low-life piece of shit as SP ishttps://removeddit.com/r/emulation/comments/c8cyjl/_/esp7xxm/
>>259326861hunterk is a good person, he's just naive.
>>259290089I installed the two programs from the wiki, whenever I connect the DS3 to my PC it freezes and restarts after a minute.
>>259329253>RA contributes nothing at all to actual emulation, just keep that in mind, especially if considering donations or the like.Pure truth.
One of the biggest issues for RetroArch usability wise is the core bloat. Far too many unnecessary cores all doing essentially the same things with no good way to tell the user which is best to use for them.
So I keep seeing these PS2 ROMs made for use with HD loaders.Will these also work with emulators like PCSX-2, or is using a real PS2 with a big ol' hard drive the only way to play images created in this way?
>>259069026now in 5D
>>259329253>2017Oh, I already seen that one back when I was obsessed with RA.
>>259326861>No comments found???
>>259336639Use a non-shit browser.Works for me :)
>>259336915_winter_ is an inolen ballwasher, keep that in mind.
>>259337184regardless, winter is not wrong in this case
best sms emulator for windows?
>>259338190Genesis Plus GX
>>259338380it for gamecude/wii
What are the best potato tier settings for citra?
One bit of license drama I don't understand is that emudevs or RA never bring up past disputes within the greater opensource world, outside of Kodi. Mozilla Firefox with the Mozilla Public License versus GNU IceWeasal/IceCat, ffmpeg and the libav "hostile" fork, and the Linux kernel staying with GPLv2 instead of GPLv3 to only name a few.
>>259339321>https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/ccq34r/can_retroarch_be_stopped_from_releasing_on_steam/>The problem is in part they broke the unwritten rules of the development community, which is to only do things if they're not likely to be damaging, avoiding anything that could be problematic even if it's what people demand.Who are you Haze to tell people what the emulator scene is about to them? If they wanna be assholes and monetize the shit out of things, let them, you can still do your own shit.Fucks sake.
No wonder emudevs turn into girls.
https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/c8fx1e/why_do_so_many_people_here_hate_it_when_emu_devs/esmox28/The Reverend is always right.
>>259339591>If they wanna be assholes and monetize the shit out of things, let themAre you for real?
>bump limitWe did it, Reddit
>>259340227People often blame others and need to be catered to because of their own weakness.
>>259340242Are you going to stop them? Its clear the only thing that stops them is the law, and even then you need significant resources.
>>259342868Point I was trying to make is you can try being angry at things and be all idealistic, like I have in the past, or be a realist and realize you can try to only fight battles that you have any control over.One person is a drop in the ocean, they hardly care about one person, let alone 10.
Are there any fucking Android emulators that aren't malware/adware/spyware? Every single one has someone claiming it included a cryptominer or sends your info to china, and Androidx86 runs really slowly in Virtualbox
>>259071917I skimmed the post.Emulation addiction is a real thing, people with autistic tendencies can get really lost in trying to collecting all those roms and neatly organizing them and so on. The YouTuber Jean-Francois Gariepy is one of those people, he's talked about how that addiction actually killed several of his relationships.That said, I agree that spending 350 bucks on a controller might be a bit much if you're on the lower end of the wealth distribution curve, but then turning around and collecting real gaming hardware and cartridges (for NeoGeo? Where the games cost like 500 dollars each nowadays?) makes him seem even more like a schizophrenic than the ALL-CAPS writing already does.
>>259319646what a douchebag weeaboo, he can't even speak Japanese decently and thought he'd be treated like a king, maybe being shown his place is what straightened him up