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Last time on /ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station:
>This is the first /ss13g/ ever.

>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Help
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Shortcuts

>Roleplay Guides
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/A_Crash_Course_In_Roleplaying
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Space_Law

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server
byond://game.ss13.moe:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.moe:1337

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>HELP CANT'T CONNNTECT???????
You need at least version 512 to connect now. Try the latest beta first (through the BYOND launcher), it should be functional.
If not, here's 512.1464 which is confirmed to be mostly unfucked http://www.byond.com/download/build/512/512.1464_byond_setup.zip

>/vg/station forum and logs + Discord circlejerk
http://ss13.moe/forum/
http://game.ss13.moe/logs
https://discord.gg/c32NDYj

>Map renders collection: updated sometimes
http://game.ss13.moe/minimaps/images/maps/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation
https://discord.gg/G468vcr

>Round Stats
http://stats.ss13.moe/

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/
http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans

>OP Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/raw/wxfcmd71
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first for cute sec bfs
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first for waifus
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second for mentioning me please
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>>255968548
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last for readd meta
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vox (female)
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7th
for it was a admin non antag who killed me
and they had admin on
so they were breakin some rules buddy boy
they even called it an ic kill in the ahelp i made
and then when i killed them back I get banned? bulshit
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Who is [your] favourite static? Why?

This is your chance to call out someone you don't hear about very much, or to finally reach out to your idol that everyone gossips about!
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>>255968548
this
>>255968681
this
>>255968697
this
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Is softcore loli allowed in the library?
i.e. not porn
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>>255968872
Any black-haired static.
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>>255969112
pedos must hang
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>multiple people play assistant statics
>they do nothing but harass security, steal shit, and generally be irritating faggots
>for some reason this is fine but metagrudging them isn't
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>>255969112
Kill yourself, pedo
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>>255969280
>>255969549
name one thing pedophilic about wanting to hug and tickle cute little 5 year olds who are surprisingly mature for their age
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>>255969375
NOOO STOP GETTING IN MY WAY TO GET VALIDS
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>>255969375
I play sec a lot, generally dealing with the regular graylords is not that bad. You just have to follow a code of honor and also space law. Also chasing them around for gloves is a bad idea.

The problem is that some sec players think an assistant is lower than them and will treat them like trash, whereas actually most assistant mains are robust combat experts who have an ability to help the station alongside ruining it.
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http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Backstory

> After a violent uprising in New Christchurch, the Zealand region was bombarded by NanoTrasen with nuclear weapons in order to protect its facilities and assets, reducing the once lush planet into a harsh, arid rock


how rude
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>>255969742
>The problem is that some sec players think an assistant is lower than them and will treat them like trash, whereas actually most assistant mains are robust combat experts who have an ability to help the station alongside ruining it.
finally a intellectual
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>>255969742
>Sec officer sees me with the Captain's bedsheet and goes nuclear
>Explain I don't have anything else or access, and he's free to check me
>Takes the bedsheet and throws it in evidence
>Later find him dead.
>Leave him dead.

>Officer is a bro and lets me get off a minor B&E with a warning not
>Find out he's later in need of help
>Dash across the station to find him, save him from the clutches of a vampire.
If you don't harass me I will willingly go out of my way to help you.
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>>255970053
>police officer sees me outside the white house with the president's suit
>oh, okay. have fun with that, I didnt see you break in so its fine
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I love how botany get completly ignored half of time.
Everything's blood soaked, hull breached and what not and botany is in it's little corner with one to three guys growing some shit.
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>>255970168
who exactly has access through those magic doors leading to the chef botany and bartender?
is it just those individuals?
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REMINDER:
All of the following are facts and endorsed by 100% of admins.
>if you have an emag on you and didn't tell sec about it, you're valid until proven innocent
>even if the HoP gave you access it doesn't mean you're allowed to be there. get a proper promotion or at least GET ALONG with the rest of the people there, and you won't have trouble
>we can tell very easily if you have all access. don't be retarded.
>you need RD's approval to make mechs. you need to at the very least tell security if you're making a combat mech, even with the RD's approval, or they're fully justified in thinking it's unauthorized and magdumping ions on it. follow the proper procedures and you won't have trouble
>gunsci is instant perma if you get caught. stop powergaming retard
>tailgating into medbay is still trespass if you don't need medical treatment, retard. stealing from the fridge to stuff your powergay internals box is still theft, retard.
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>>255969821
>check who updated it to be that
>irridation wrote that
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>>255970265
so how come the non antag admeme did your second meme arrow and then banned me
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>>255970452
Because you are a little faggot.
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>>255970147
This is why I left the officer dead.

Understand that you're not required to follow laws blindly. Making compromises to keep things stable and the station in your good graces can make a major difference.
This is why Accipt is considered such a dangerous sec officer. People like him because he's not shitsec so they'll help him, but he's dangerous enough to cave your face in if you do something serious.
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obligatory
http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&p=27539#p27539
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>>255970764
how to make everybody immediately side against you 101:
make a retarded, illegible, 2 pages long post that appears to hide information at a first glance
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>>255970764
>caring that discomuffin and kilozombie have their panties in a wad
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>>255968872
My fave static is Borba Fett
he's a cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything, plus I always see him do risky shit to thwart baddies
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>>255971203
its not that hard to read faggot its mostly because the admins kept hitting me with toolbox or the SEC officer kept pepperspraying me so i had to post each log to indicate time and frame of reference
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>>255970262

more or less
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>>255971228
just enjoying riling up the retards anon
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>>255971580
just stop retard, nobody cares and i personally hope you get permad for spilling your spaghetti this bad
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>>255971578
t.Borba Fett
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>>255968386
>not sparemen on a sparestation
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>>255970147
it’s kind of fucked up but if you actually do enforce things sanely (“this entertainer is wearing the president’s bedsheet.”) everyone is unhappy (including you and your fellow officers) and it’s less likely that something fun will come of it
that’s why i disagree with all those posts about “good RP” based off of how people would actually act irl because those tend to be boring rounds without fun stuff
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>>255971964
No i'm t. femstatic
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>2563
>walk into bar
>battle of lil slugger starts playing
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>mfw i'm about to panic table Jack Dale
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you will never understand the mentality of greytide until you look at this meme
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>>255973293
the balaclava kills me
t. tyron jenkies
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>>255973503
>tyron jenkies
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StArT tHe GaMe AlReAdY
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AHH! Being rushed!
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>>255973503
Done crying about your ban now faggot?
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>>255968872
My favorite static is Kate Bishop but the mentally challenged badmins deleted her from the server so now I feel hollow inside.
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>>255974898
no
jed deserves to get deadminned for breaking rules such as
uhhh killing his own fellow assistant as non antag after spare rushing
answering ahelps about himself
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>>255973147
>tabling Jack Dale
are you sure you can handle it?
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>>255975238
damn this pic makes me miss my grandpa
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>admin gets bored and actively griefs players
>gets out robusted and dies
>rees and bans person that killed them while they were just randomly death matching people
>when asked why they were being retarded they just say it was "in character" to behave like a retard
lmao

What a trash fucking server. Why is it only this game, and only this game, that every server you ever visit you meet the most self-entitled and self-righteous faggots that think they can do no wrong, when they outright ignore any rules written by themselves? Does every owner of every server just not care? Why do people play this game when at any minute the instant you stop one (1) person from having fun you risk never being able to play on a server again. All to sate the butthurt of a single unskilled, angry loser that is an admin. I can't fathom what's worse, an admin or a janny. At least a janny does something necessary. Why do these games even have an admin? What have they ever done other than cause drama? What trash.
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>>255973293
THINKING QUICKLY GRAYY TIDE CONSTRUCTS A BOMB OUT OF SOME STRING, THE CLOWN, AND A BOMB
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>1. Don't be a dick. We're all here to have fun, and if you're deliberately ruining other people's fun that's a problem. Unless you're an antagonist, then it's sorta your job to be a dick. Try to be a fun jerk though.

Don't be a dick, as in don't actively work to antagonize another player's experience needlessly. Let alone, the admins of /vg/ server go out of their way to harass players at random, expecting no repercussion of their actions due to having the near limitless abilities of server administration at their hands. Of course, when their ABSURDLY apparent lack of skill becomes noticeable, after years of playing the game supposedly, via being beaten to death by a single man with a toolbox they become angry despite abusing their powers.

>2. You're playing a multiplayer game. Sometimes you're having fun with everybody. Sometimes other people will be having fun at your expense. Sometimes you'll be having fun at their expense. Not every round will be flowers and sunshine. Antagonists are there to ensure that. However, if you think you're being griefed, make sure to adminhelp it.
"This means you should sacrifice your fun for all admins to do as they please. When you adminhelp about it then they'll just laugh at you" So why even participate if you're suffering at the hands of maybe a dozen or less abhorrent losers?

>3. This is a roleplaying game. Roleplaying isn't mandatory, but don't cause problems for people who are roleplaying. See the section on Roleplay for more information.
"As in you will roleplay yourself being dead while we kill you when we wish for whatever reason" say the constantly abusive admins of this shithead game, on every server.
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what are the /vg/station coders debuting at e3 this year
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just a reminder that jedediah spawns himself items, mechs, and superjukes as an admin, literally 12 year old minecraft-server-admin behavior
granted, discomuffin can go fuck himself too
/vg/ would be better off if both of them were permabanned
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>>255976367
Mr. Foster, as dogshit of a person as he is personally, is the only admin of merit on this entire piece of shit server.
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>>255976260
>this is a roleplaying game, roleplaying isn't manditory
nigger what?
also i think we can all agree that people talking about the game mechanics ic, like choosing jobs on start or clicking is just shit and low effort
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>>255976447
>roleplaying isn't mandatory
i'm pretty sure it's retardese for "you don't have to /me breathes in constantly" but you still have to keep up the facade of being a spaceman on a space station and not directly reference the fact that this is a game
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>>255976591
this
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>>255976447
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Rules
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>>255976367
vpnfag and post logs on the forums
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>>255975238
done it before desu senpai
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>>255976367
spawning anything for yourself is a big no no, doubly if it’s something actually valuable
could be relevant for the forums
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>>255976367
Got logs?

Should be pretty easy to get and post if its true.
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just a reminder
factual, accurate list of people who are undeniably shitstains who /vg/ would be better off without:
>Discomuffin
>Absolutely
>Jedediahsmith
>Cescu_gah
>Katebishop
>Glasseclipse
>Basedconsumer
>Bomber Harris
>HagiJes
>IFlashYou
>Whatever the fuck Termed's new Ckey is
there's more people who are also shitstains we'd be better off without but these people are the cream of the crop of undeniable, unrepentant assholes who think that they can shit all over other people's games and not end up thrown out on their asses eventually
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>>255971203
Normally I'd agree with you, but in this case fuck admins more than fuck Discomuffin.

And I don't say that lightly.
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>>255977115
Can I get a quick rundown on all this ckeys?
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>>255977206
Hello kelerick
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>>255977241
who?
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>>255976878
woah, better watch the fuck out
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>>255970764
>>255971203
>>255977120
>admin player kills a regular player for no reason
>player admin helps it like he's supposed to do, since it's against the rules for a non-antagonist to kill a player
>"it was an in character reason, shut up lol" says the admins that killed him

epic, simply epic.
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>>255977115
uhhh did you see my last two bans faggot? this is disco, i got a day ban for getting perma'd then field executed on green with the shuttle coming (so i never made it home, despite being nonantag)
then my next ban was because i killed an admin for killing me
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>>255976878
more like the cutie caboose
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>>255977115
>not on the list
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>>255968872
Here's one I don't see very often, who is your favorite Cargo player?

Personally the only one I ever have a problem with is Richard Green. The rest are usually pretty nice guys.
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>>255978216
I'm my favorite cargo player.
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make of this what you will, but the logs indicate that he was playing and alive at the times he did all of these
someone else can post this though, i'm too lazy to get involved with the forum drama
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>>255978686
be more helpful to also know which role he's playing at the time (and how he's playing it - joining as assistant and validhunting all round while adminned obviously isn't okay either)
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Is hippie the only server that still has good code, or are there some new ones since the ssethtide?
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>>255978216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZUo4Za1TVM
bustatime hank venture
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oh bioy here we go again were gunna try to pitchfork an admin for daring to bus. fucking nigggers weeeww
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>>255978880
>hank venture
>william whalen
venture bros bus when
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>>255978789
looks like he was playing an assistant
past that, too lazy to logdive to see what else he did that round outside of spawning himself mechs, but it was the last round of june 4th, approximately 23:30 to 01:30 that he pulled all this, for anyone who cares enough to go diving themselves
>>255978964
Shut the fuck up, Jed.
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>>255978996
u know u can be venture bros without needing admin meta gang to bus uhhh like just bustatime did lmfao you faggot
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READD META OR IT WILL BE CULT AGAIN
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>>255979597
>meta removed
>cult removed
you’re playing yourself, anon
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Compromise: we remove roid
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>>255979765
i'll take that deal
roid for meta
meta is a box cosplayer whereas roid is a deff cosplayer
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>>255979597
>this shitty map from 2013 still has more roid than roid
wtf bros...
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Box > Packed > Deff > Roid >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shit > Meta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bagel
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>>255979920
i remember when i thought roidcult would be good
there was this one roidcult round, (and i really should've screencapped this) where instead of mining into all of the roid walls around them to make a base, they cordoned off a 1x9 portion of the AME room and used that as their base. so imagine if you will, a pile of cultists, juggs, and structures, all crammed into a 1 tile wide sardine can of a cult base, all while they are surrounded by perfectly mineable roid wall.
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>>255980069
Swap box and roid and it's a perfect list if it were backwards
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>>255980069
Roid, meta and bagel are all shit maps, snow map only does not enter the list because it never got implemented due to the sheer incompetence of celt.

FUCK YOU CELT, YOU RUINED MY CHRISTMAS AND JUST ABANDONED THE PROJECT, YOU DID NOT EVEN BOTHER FIXING THAT SHIT TO TRY AND REDEEM YOURSELF!
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>>255979845
Not talking about meta or any exchange, I just want roid out
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>>255980069
>>255980306
there is LITERALLY nothing wrong with meta
it's box shuffled around
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>>255980365
oh
yeah that works too
deal
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>instead of putting it in the feedback thread, discocuntmuffin puts the incriminating evidence in alongside all of his downs-addled marble-brained shitposts where it'll inevitably get disregarded and left in a locked thread that nobody posts in
Bloody fucking hell, you're a moron. I know people say that if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself, but the last thing I need is for people to think I'm siding with one of the dumbest dindus currently on the server just because I want Jed deadminned.
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>>255980401
>there is LITERALLY nothing wrong with meta
>it's box shuffled around
It does not even have a properly set up toxins lab, the pipes were placed wrong. It also features an AI core that is located outside of the station acessible only by tubes or by people in spacesuits, which makes malfunctioning AIs even more OP then normal. Not to mention the shitty maintanance system, shitty engineering and shitty overlay in general.

In other words: It belongs in the trash and only a handfull of irl flaming faggots like it.
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>>255980687
>does not even have a properly set up toxins lab
>this is supposed to be a bad thing
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>>255980549
Imagine being this fucking retarded.
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>>255980687
Who fucking cares about toxins lol
>muh malf
We haven't had non-bussed malf in a month+. The real bullshit is that blobs can pop in the tubed off AI sat, which I agree is terrible, but again I have only seen it happen once and that was in 2017.
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>>255980549
I'm the guy who went out of his way to find evidence on the side of disco-boy, and posted it. I simply knew not where to actually post it. Where he continues to post in a locked thread is true, that is his own fault.

Completely disregarding him and his case, we need to address the fact that the admins of this game, on every server especially ours, are the least respectable ilk available for such a cause. Why do we permit these people to labor and hold power over us when they do no more than ruin our experience within the game? Even Colonial Marines and all its autism has more understanding and outright permit able admins on its server than the vanilla game.
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>>255980830
The very least I expect of a map that is considered finished is that the fucking pipes are placed right.

>>255980891
Still makes it shitty as fuck.
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>>255980687
oh yeah it has a lot of missing items/incorrectly mapped stuff
the ghetto bar for example has no juke
which is a shame because the physical layout of that bar isn't even that bad
then you have these weird no man's land maintenance
like what is this
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>>255980905
>Why do we permit these people to labor and hold power over us
Because only shit people become admins for things.
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>>255980967
>2 nitpicks of almost no importance whatsoever + generic "shit X with no argument to back it up"
>"shitty as fuck"
boy we might as well say box is shitty as fuck because of the slightly bad brig and shitty TEG piping then
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this one is my fave because of how shameless it is
like what IS this
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>>255981163
what's supposed to be wrong with that?
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>>255980905
because either the shitty bus spree that's happened as of late is either a big change from how admins used to behave or entirely a product of the thread and not actually an effect in the game
because it's ludicrous to imply that "admins" is an entity actively trying to fuck people over
because people doing stupid shit is noticed much more than people doing good shit
because the game has enough player freedom that it would be pretty fucked without administration

idk what you're really going for with this, my guy
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>>255981224
just needs the exterior-most west airlock painted differently because it is quite literally "maintenance to nowhere" if you're coming from the west
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>>255981163
A small bridge between public access and the science department?
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I miss playing this game so much.

I used to come up with the most inventive pranks as clown/mime.

If you are playing a mime or clown out there, do something incredible.

Create the most elaborate prank you can.

One time I forced the entire station to remove their shoes by hacking the AI and relawing it, then stealing all the backup boards and destroying the other control consoles so nobody could revert it.

Unfortunately, the station ended up killing the AI, but until then, it was absolutely wonderful.
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>>255981326
...it's science maintenance? for scientists?
meanwhile box has THIS masterpiece
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>>255981341
>bridge
>public access
maint access isn't public
also the lack of windows on the doors means it's not very effectual for jobbiebeeping
this is also why box scientists dump off tools to medbay at the front door instead of asking to be let in at one of the eastern doors
which in turn led to that really dumb windoor from rnd to chemistry in deff
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>>255981163
I can't even tell you the number of scientist I have murdered in that little pocket of maint, I love it.
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>>255980905
How are admins ruining your experience in this game?
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>>255981496
those doors are for RD and geneticist access tho
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>>255981432
That room has been used for many different gimmicks. I used to routinely turn it into my own bridge officer office before IAA branch lost its maint access.
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>>255981130
Read>>255980978
It is not one thing or 2, it is a whole lot of small things that add up to make a shitty, soulless map.
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>>255981575
in which case it's still superior to leave the doors than to smash the bordering maintenance a la deff
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>>255981608
>soulless map
Oh I didn't realize I was talking to a literal retard, carry on
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a low blow but surely they could've streamlined this
it's set up for perhaps the maximum number of doors possible
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>>255980978
>MAINTENANCE THAT PROVIDES ALTERNATE ROUTES INTO DEPARTMENTS BAD
>TUMOR MAINT THAT GOES LITERALLY NOWHERE GOOD
boxbabbs baka
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>>255981496
bridge between public access and science, yes
the left being public access
and the right being science
hence it BRIDGES them
this is how words work
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>>255977115
>Irradiation
>PrimeD
Whoever plays Coxswain
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>>255981880
>alternate routes into departments
i know this is cargo we're talking about but in the case of medbay, science, and service, said jobbies lack access into said "alternate routes into departments".
in the pic in question that maint space pretty much only exist because it comes from an era when mulemapping was more obligatory ergo it was not mapped with alternate entrances in mind

>>255981893
the door is maintenance ID locked
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>>255977115
It's spine-chilling how on point this list is. It's not just a cherrypick of the 3 most obvious shitters either, this is thorough and 100% accurate. Well done.
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This is your new admin, say something nice about him.
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>>255982060
Then that's retarded and I would assume unintentional.
Still gives a panic room for air issues, some storage, and a quicker jaunt from robotics to RND if the east door is locked.
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>>255982146
so this is the power of the old admins...
whoa...
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>bitching about minimalist micro-maintenance after box just had a completely worthless maint tumor shoved into it.
why is there two fucking ghetto botanies now
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>>255982146
>we'll see what people find next
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>>255982286
>why is there two fucking ghetto botanies now
because dude deff maint monkies lol xd
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>>255982190
>Then that's retarded and I would assume unintentional.
it's true on every single map from box to deff. i would say it's gestalt-intentional in the sense that some guys just did it and then a bunch of people after that defended it as deliberate. i too think it's shit, though
pic related for example, a doctor can enter and exit the green door but cannot access the red door into their own "departmental maintenance"

>>255982286
i voted against that change too, i do not mean to mislead in my meta crusade
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>>255981749
What modules? The other ops borg has a cr20 and a heat hawk.
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>>255982354
I hate this design philosophy that every station needs ghetto everything and a million dumb maint easter eggs.
just fucking build something for once you grey babies
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>>255982526
this
countless deff rounds have shown that people don't even fuckin' any of the maintenance space and instead build their SME in the bar where people can actually see it
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>>255982146
You know what though, he did actually use his abilities to influence and ruin my round wanna know how?
This guy answered my ahelp I made against him not surprisingly. That got me banned instead of getting the first griffer banned aka the 12:10 spare rusher non antag murderous nigger broba u called the wrong autist nigger broba
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>>255982526
Seems weird to me that despite all the maint shit people want to add, nobody seems to want to add public areas.
Other shittier servers have public gardens for example, out in the hallway and all. But we have 2 ghetto botanies instead.
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>try vgstation for the first time
>code is actually good
>players are enjoyable to be around
>no cancerous features except cult

thanks for the good time gamers
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>>255982479
Seems the problem is less maintenance and more that maintenance is mapped in a retarded fashion.
Would an overhaul of the system where each individual chunk of maint has its own access requirements work, maybe?
So docs can enter through the green and the red there, but they can't go crawling through that entire wing of maint unless it leads out to public access.
Outside of just giving everyone maint which is what should be the norm. The fucking clown should not have more access to survivability in the event of a main hallway fuckup than the entirety of the actual service, science, and medical departments.
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>>255982726
(2) - hurts just a little bit

>>255982710
i agree with this.
hell, even maintenance access for everyone. could even use it as a reason to rewind some of cult's powercreep
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>>255982794
airlock settings are highly atomic in that they can be configured (even in-game) to accept inclusive disjunctions (OR gates) for doors, so it probably wouldn't be difficult, just something that's grandfathered in and hasn't been touched in a very long time
agreed on the spoiler as well
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>>255982507
Thinking vtec/jetpack, emag, bullwhip, burst fire mateba, and eviscerator grenades.

Send in the Fallen as a shock assault unit, then it withdraws to reload its limited ammo stocks. Hit and run. The other borg is more firesupport, this is more offensive.
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>>255982710
when the FUCK is the last time somebody ever built shit in maintenance that wasn't just a ghetto bar or ghetto bar accessories.
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>>255982526
>Jobbies think they actually do anything
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>>255982989
once someone built a nice entrance to the ghettobar
which is now much much deeper into maint now thanks to the new maint tumors meaning it will get used less
enjoy
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>>255982989
the new box change was pretty much exclusively with cults in mind (as admitted by the author of the pr), which is why there's lots of new rooms but very little ideas for what should go in those rooms
i think that's bad, not good to gunkify the maps all for one gamemode
what can you do, i voted stay
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>>255982936
Guess I'll learn how to use the github and make this my pet project then.
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>>255982989
what are they supposed to build?

Everything is locked behind jobby roles.
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>>255983121
>"the tumors in maint are for assistants"
>"what would they build? they're just assistants."
>"the tumors in maint are for jobbies"
>"but the vast majority of jobbies lack maintenance access. and cargonians and engineers have their own playhouses."
ahem fuck tumors
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>>255983121
Use your fucking imagination and stop crying about jobbies any time you're expected to do anything more thought-intensive than niggering into departments or turning people sideways.
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>>255983269
Nice projection Jobby
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>>255983394
imagine being such a delusional NEET that you think being a shiftless, lazy assistant is noble or honorable
imagine being a literal nigger and being proud of it
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>>255983516
every maintblob we merge strengthens the assistants, anon
what did you expect?
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chemo station with little to no maint when?
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>>255983592
the only asshitstants it strengthens are the ones who put cult to always and hang around waiting for other assistants to walk by so they can convert them
there's a reason i make most of my assistant projects out in high-traffic areas far away from maint
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i'm amazed that box gateway room has lasted this long without being pushed far into arrivals and having the free real estate reclaimed into something else
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>>255981472
>>255981749
Fucking sucks
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>>255984373
cool opinion bro
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>tfw when you drink the same mixed drink irl as you do in spess

IMMERSION: MAX
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>>255981472
>>255981749
good borg!
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>tfw bitches love diamonds
>but the diamonds aint diamonds.
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>A pAI is looking for personalities.
>Figure I'll pull a Smonk Malteeth
>TrapOS, the perfect girlfriend (male) AI platform!
>Cockswain boots it up
>"finally a real girlfriend!"
>proceeds to put me in the pockets of a dead body named Waifu dressed up as an anime schoolcatgirl
>proceeds to EAT her limbs
>proceeds to EAT ME
So how was your shift, thread?
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Post some highlights from the last week.
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>>255982980
>emag
>defeat enemy borgs and add them to the nook ops team

could be fun
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Fucker started opening this 30 seconds into the round
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How has Lindy Swabey not gotten a permanent sec ban? Like, seriously: playing as an armless sec officer does nothing but give LE GREYTIDE more shit and does nothing to contribute to the station.
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>>255984863
Why are you the way you are?
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>>255985281
>being this stupid
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>>255985281
>THEY ARENT PLAYING SEC TO SECURE THE BALIDS BAN HE

Fuck off kid.
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>>255981749
>implying newcops ever use their borgs

Ive seen the gunborg used once. They will just dudebombslmao instead.
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>>255985281
t. shiftyrail
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>>255969375
>multiple people main security
>they do nothing but validhunt and generally be irritating faggots depending on your job
>for some reason this is fine
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>>255986715
I think it's because not enough people realize borgs are an option for nukeops.
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>>255969375
Metagrudging doesn't solve the problem, and that's the point rail is trying to make there. If an assistant static is generally being a piece of shit and acting OOCly in IC, then the proper course of action would be to ahelp them, make player feedback, make a ban request, or pretty much anything else but metagrudging them since at that point you've become just as bad as them by going out of your way to ruin someone else's experience.
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>>255978686
Hahahahahahaha what the fuck?
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>>255985610
>>255985707
>>255987060
>NOOOOOOOO DON'T TALK ABOUT JOBBANNING MY WAIFUUUUUUUUU
Beyond pathetic. Neck yourselves.
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>>255987607
Poor Lil seccuck. Did your balids get away? How can you ever prove yourself if the sprites aren't horizontal?
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>>255987981
Snappy retort but I rarely play sec and I don't validhunt.
Neck.
Yourself.
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>>255988028
Then why do you whine so much about a non-issue faggot? Man the fuck up.
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>>255987191
>NO STOP ARRESTING ME FOR BREAKING INTO PLACES I WANT MY GOLDEN CARD
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>>255988123
>m-m-m-man up l-like me
It's one post on a Vietnamese cartoon forum and yet you're making it out to be a big dumb dedicated campaign. And it's perfectly valid: why the fuck would NanoTrasen hire a security officer WITH NO ARMS?
Neck.
Your.
Self.
Sweetheart.
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>>255987191
I've never had any problem with security, while I had greyshits break in wherever multiple times.
Also it's kinda their job to validhunt, unlike every assistant, HOP and ablino on the station.
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>>255987191
Validhunting is totally acceptable because of cult nowadays.

Unless cult gets trashcanned until the average greyshirt can fight it, Sec absolutely needs to megahitler to beat a cult.
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>>255988290
I'm going to roll a completely limbless warden just to spite you.
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>>255988427
Go for it. Enjoy having no fun, getting your shit pushed in by assistants, antags and other sec, and, if you keep at it, getting jobbanned. That'll REALLY show me.
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Cult3 needs to fucking rare. Stop this cultspam shit deity. It's fine twice a day tops.
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>>255988494
>job banned
Like that's a threat. Limbless Larry is still rolling around.
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>>255988746
Go and be Limbless Luke then, big man. Set all Head roles to 'High' and all antag roles to "Always."
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>>255987060
that dude likes lindy
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>>255985281
what the fuck do you even do as an armless character? how do you even have any fun if you can't interact with anything?
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>>255985281
I don't see what your problem is my man, it's not like spare rushing isn't a popular activity endorsed and exercised by admins despide being a power- and metagaming move.
What's the difference between a greyshit grabbing the spare at 12:03 and nabbing a sec ID from a meme character at any point?
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Every character called "Luna" is automatically shit.
Prove me wrong. You can't.
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fucking shitcurity, why can't you just let me have gunk fun on a gunk round?
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>>255989398
that spare rushing stuff is getting more flandarized every day too
we really need some good solution to it (i dont think that pr in the git is a good idea)
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>>255989481
>grr why wont sec let me emag into the armory or use my all access to take down their barricade and run into sec to try and grab a gun grr
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>>255989530
Spare spawns 15 minutes late if there isn't a roundstart Captain.

Let the cold war begin.
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>that entire round
this is why alcohol exists, holy shit
why do people intentionally fuck with security and then bitch when they get kicked in the dick for it? like, bruh, what did you expect to happen?
play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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>>255989596
unironically an interesting idea
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replace the GOLD CARD with a super matter shard cut down into the shape of a card when?

>speedrun spare
>FLASH their arm off as they pick it up.
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so who is going to make the ban request on sybill

il add to it
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>>255989596
weird but might work
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>>255989642
I think it'd actually be funny just because you'd get some sort of weird tribal behavior.

Sec would attempt to set up shop inside the office to snag, greyshirts would barricade in some form, science might try telescience, and so forth.
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>>255989629
hi sybil
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how do I convince a vox trader to enslave me?
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MRflarg is a nigger.
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>>255989596
Do this
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>>255989398
>it's okay that people do X, so why are you taking issue with people doing Y?
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so when is someone without schizophrenia going to man up and make the deadmin request for jed
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>>255989747
nope, i didn't kill a single person that round, as much as i felt the urge to
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>>255989770
be assistant
ask them if they need assistance
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>>255989843
post the compiled proof and it shall be done my man. it wouldn't be the first time
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>>255989530
We saw the final form of what happens as a result of it today, where I had to go full hitler and tell the HoS to treat the station like a revolution, go to red alert, and try to call for an ERT because 10-15 people had all access IDs, and also Emags and guns.
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>>255989823
hes saying that the spare rushing battle royale future is so more overwhelmingly deleterious to rounds in terms of id theft that [b]oneless sec hardly even compares on the radar esp. when some of those battle royale futures were enacted because a dummy hop/cap (with eguns) got ganked by some greytider and the all access flowed as result
i'm pretty sure that's an informal logical fallacy but i would still argue that it's valid
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>>255989670
Go for it, I'll even make an account or recover my password to weigh in my side of why that clusterfuck ended the way it did.
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>>255989880
will that work?
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>>255989530
Here's my hot take on it. Just make it so all heads have access to the captains office for running to it, this still gives the tide a small window to grab it if they're fast or the head is slow, without being as gay as just spawning the head in the office or spawning the spare on them.
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>>255990402
also a good idea
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>>255990402
Doesn't work. I've ran there from sec spawn and had people already in the office by the time I arrive on multiple maps
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>>255990326
idunno
if that doesn't work try walking into their ship and very blatantly trying to steal something without leaving
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>>255990583
Then you gun them down for grand B&E and potential grand theft if they touched the spare. They've racked up a perma sentence just by being in the room and if you're the one getting the spare you are the de facto acting captain and have authorization under space law to execute.
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>>255989596
I have another idea: if there's no roundstart captain, the spare spawns in a captain-access locker to actually wait for its owner.
There are more problems with this solution, namely that it'd only be available to a captain and trators, but maybe restricting the access to the actual main players of the round could work better than having a random greyshirt break in.
I think the main problem with your idea might be that there's going to be even more assistants loitering in the cap's office at 12:14, including the less robust ones, all waiting for the ID to spawn.
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>>255989981
>>255978686
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>>255990869
This is the only way to discourage this behavior.
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>>255990919
>assistants loitering in the cap's office at 12:14
*flashbangs u*
:s 3 permavalids secured wheel in the locker lads
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>>255990919
The problem with that is that the spare nominally exists so captain level duties can be performed without a captain, like promoting heads of staff if a department needs one and calling the shuttle if shit is going down. If the spare is only reachable by antags and the captain himself you could easily end up in a situation where everything is fucked but the shuttle can't be called without wasting time emittering the locker or constructing an AI to call it which might be things you cant do if say the reason its all fucked is a singulo just ate half the station and there's no power.
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>>255990869
>field execution for unarmed B&E
*bwoink*
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what if instead of all these retarded code solutions that harm legitimate spare users we just let the admins bwoink speedrunners haha just a thought hehe haha
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10 minute cooldown from roundstart for being able to hack doors
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>>255991394
>admemes themselves spare rush when they play
Your idea might work on a better server
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>>255991565
because it's still OK to do it
i don't think admins would have any trouble adapting to and enforcing the no-constant-sparerush rule if the playerbase wasn't so fervently against it because WERE NOT BAY!!
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>>255991336
Any admin that would actually do anything after the situation was explained has the big gay. t.admin that isn't part of the sec metaclub
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>>255991394
this desu
you can't code around player issues indefinitely
we used to enforce this shit but we stopped
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>>255990869
Congrats you're now bolted in your office and the AI and borgs are ignoring every command while yelling at security to arrest you.
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epic idea guys
instead of a spare, the captain's office starts with a spare generator which cannot be moved or destroyed
it creates unlimited spares but takes 1.21GW to function
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>>255978964
>for bussing while playing
fixed that for you
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>>255991535
I hope you like nopower, because hacking into CE's office at roundstart when they're absent is required to set up most power sources. And I ain't breaking the windows like some nigger.
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>>255991670
I think this is the best way to go about it, but there is a problem. People usually want a coded solution because anyone can vote on a PR while asking for something to be regulated by rules is basically asking for the mercy of a whimsical admin metaclub.
I for one would be happy with a change to stricter moderation. For some reason, some actions based on metaknowledge (like unwrenching the pump between mix and distro because a malf ai might want to use it) are heavily frowned upon, while other actions that require the same amount of metaknowledge (like knowing exactly where the spare spawns) are fair game. Then you realize that the former is not allowed simply because of some gay pvp balance reasons and not because it makes little sense IC and for RP purposes and you die a little inside
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>>255980978
>>255981163
>>255981432
>maint intended for the mule and with actual purpose
>"reee this maint is too small therefore it's useless!"
it's more useful than 80% of all maint on most maps
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>>255982479
theeres only one way in and no way out
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>>255991745
it all makes sense to me now... broba fett was part of the sec metagay before he was apart of the assistant grayminnery hes such a huge faggot he blows mad dick
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>>255992842
>he doesnt know how to break the windows like some white person
you suck at rp desu
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>>255991670
its not OK to do it the adm*me damage control in this thread is out of control
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>>255993973
Let's not pretend that mules serve a purpose. The maintenance is bad but the mules are.
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>>255994590
>Let's not pretend that mules serve a purpose.
and yet it's still more purpose than 80% of maintenance
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>>255981472
Please make more mommi sprites. CUTE MOMMIS
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>>255992131
>metaclub could drop ship a super duper pacman next to the spare generator
>admin bussed in jecties spelling out get dat fukken spark/disk/shinyitem greentext
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>>255994707
the original notion behind maintenance was a more interconnected station, there's very little function to them because of this
then they set things up such that only certain roles can access maint (back in the day security officers et al. didn't have maint access, only really cargo and engineers did. this was before general access) which sort of instantly defeated the purpose of that
we have general access now so it's a little better, but i still don't get their thinking
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what if the head of security gave the spare to everybody
but they have to get fucked for it
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>>255995020
If there's a hop that's a stuncuff demotion brigging for abuse of power.
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>>255995105
the hop is gonna get fucked too and he'll forget about everything
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NOOOOO WHO BANNED KATE BISHOP
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>>255996096
Me
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>>255994717
am I kawaii , uguu…?
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>>255996096
HÖLY BASS :DDDD
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>>255996383
Explain
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>>255996987
It's a mommi made out of a toolbox with wired soda cans for legs and a safety cone stuck on top of it.
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Marcus is a cutie patootie.
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>>255990869
>gun down for grand B&E
I would have a bwoink before the first body even hit the floor.
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>>255997251
You'd still be in the right as an acting captain to escalate a life sentence to an execution with no trial. It'd be shitcurity sure but honestly a little shitcurity here and there to remind people they aren't the protagonist and dont get to turbo powergame every round doesn't go amiss.
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Well that was a round. It was kind of a long, boring slog, but it was a round. Wasn't all bad, though, had a laff at Rimmer-lite.
Speaking of the boys from the dwarf,
TALKIE TOASTER WHEN
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>>255997380
>Rimmer-lite
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>>255997354
This.

The natural enemy of greytide is not security. It's shitcurity. And shitcurity is important.
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>>255997354
You realise that its the admins speedrunning the spare as well right?
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>>255997589
then they get the shitcurity as well
pretty i got an admin once, since a bunch of shitcurity clown gobbos got spawn'd in the cell i killed a prime shitter in
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>>255997589
And if that admin gets his face melted for grand B&E, so be it.
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>>255997561
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. If a lad wants to go above and beyond with his shittery, then likewise, his punishment should fit the crime. Spacelaw is a suggestion, and magnitude and impact of the crime matter just as much as the severity. Someone wants that juicy all-access, he should pay the price if he fails to secure it cleanly and quickly.
Giving people slap-on-the-wrist sentences for shit that fucks up the game is a bad idea since it just gives people the impression that there's no risk to sparerushing.
Grand theft and major trespass are perma-worthy, so stick those fuckers in perma. Make them risk their entire round if they want the ticket.
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>>255997684
*bwoink*
ahem you appear to have stopped my greyshitting
*bans you*
heh nothing personnel kid
-jed
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>>255997795
Agree.
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>>255997795
You make a good point, it's perma for any greys in the bridge at roundstart now.
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>>255997808
I actually wish Jed did that.
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how 2 trick security into fucking me
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>>255997958
Meet me on vore, make sure you're dressed nice and girly.
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>>255998024
nice and girly?
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>>255997808
thank you he wasnt even a man enough to disarm sec he just toolbox me and evne say gray tide worldwide nigger because this game is too hard for pussy admins that only play fortnite and need to ban when they cant toolbox

fuck you riadiation
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>>255997158
Acceptably cute.
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>>255998146
Nia hair, some kind of skirt, lipstick and eyeshadow optional. Make sure to act like a dirty little slut, too.
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>>255997958
Get them worked up.
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>>255998238
Is that Smoke?
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>>255997228
i wanna see marcus and jack do it !
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>>255997958
go to citadel, thats how
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>tfw my static never gets mentioned
>feels bad man
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>>255997589
I'm also one of the admins lad. Fuck spare rushers, the only thing they should expect from you is to be cloned maybe
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>>255998448
depends on how much of a shitter they are, usually as ward or hos, i'll only borg if they're a prime shitter, you know the type that dindu, gets the ai to let em out, steals sec id's, all after stealing the caps egun or something
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>>255998409
>he staticnames to get anonymous validation and attention and not for the sake of roleplay
Cringe and Bluepilled.
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>>255997928
thats precisely what jed did
>>[20:22:18]WHISPER: JedediahSmith/(Broba Fett) (Starboard Primary Hallway - 196,208,1): I would have handed out access
>[20:22:22]WHISPER: JedediahSmith/(Broba Fett) (Starboard Primary Hallway - 196,208,1): but you had to be a nigger
[20:23:00]ATTACK: <font color='red'>Broba Fett(jedediahsmith) attacked Doofy Gilmore(discomuffin) with emergency toolbox. (INTENT: HURT) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)</font>
follow me here jed killed me so I come back to kill him doing this
[21:29:35]ATTACK: Unknown (as Doofy Gilmore) (discomuffin) fired the syringe gun (proj:giant syringe) at Broba Fett (jedediahsmith) (191,217,1)
see and jed did this
[20:33:15]ADMIN: PM: JedediahSmith/(Broba Fett)->Discomuffin/(Doofy Gilmore): It appears to be an IC issue at this time.
[21:30:42]ADMIN: MOD:
[21:30:08]ADMIN: JedediahSmith/(Broba Fett) used who verb advanced (shows OOC key - IC name, status and if antagonist)

JedediahSmith/(Broba Fett) : Irradiation

[21:30:49]ADMIN: MOD: JedediahSmith/(Broba Fett) : Can you fidn out why this non-antag just spaced me?
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>jed damage control is trying to make ya boy disco look bad by shitposting paraphrasing the latest forum posts meanwhile he types like a shitter in the game and abuses his adminverbs
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>>255998238
>get them worked up
>implyign they're not worked up 24/7 just waiting to let loose on the first tight, vulnerable Smoke Maltys clone they see

>>255998704
Disco and Jed are equally shit and taking sides is like taking sides in a fight between Stalin and Mao over who's the worst, at a certain point, the shitlery just hits a bar and anything above it doesn't affect the shitheel score. Disco and Jed have both hit maximum shitheel, they both need to be banned.
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>>255998797
im disco and im not an admin but jed is get your priority straight faggot, i play the game to win they play the game to cheat thats why jed is below me dumbshit
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>>255998217
okay
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>>255977115
>there's more people who are also shitstains we'd be better off without
Can we get the full list?
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>>255977115
>Bomber Harris
Protected by the Metaclub
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>>255998872
>i play the game to win
You're not helping your case boy
To comment on the case, if Jed doesn't get deadminned then he's going keep toeing the line, just more cautiously.
Every case of him abusing his admin magicks should be considered like this: would praying for the stuff he spawned for himself cause a non-shitter admin to grant the wish, or result in permanent brain damage?
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#freekate
Kate Bishop is based and redpilled
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>>255977115
Hey I'm in that list
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>>255977115
This is just a list of active players.
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how to erp
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what's up degenerates
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>>256000702
*unzips*
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>>256001061
*zips*
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>>255998238
CUTE BOYS!!!!!!!
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redpill me on feet negro
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>>255998238
God, I wish it were me
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>>255987060
Hiroshimoot lifted my rangeban so I can answer
I like Lindy a lot more than most sec officers because at least the player isn't a mute autist and is enjoyable to play with
Besides, I've rarely seen them getting killed in maint so I don't know where that meme comes from
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>>255998238
HOW
ANSWER ME PLEASE
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>>255997158
>soda can legs
It better make a tapping noise when it walks
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never seen so many bees before
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>>256002545
You don't need to kill an armless person to take any of their posessions. What are they gonna do, yank it out of your hands?
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What's the difference between botanist and research botanist?
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>>256003317
Not him
It hasn’t personally fucked me over yet so by my measure it’s a non issue
I say that because in ss13 “is probable” vs “has happened” are light years apart in terms of what matters
Whereas armed (no pun intended) captains and hops getting ganked by random greytiders who go on to dump out all access has fucked me over multiple times in recent memory
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>>256003317
Even though, I've not seen them being stripped of their possessions or otherwise bullied more than the usual.
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>>256003475
I'm just pointing out how it can be done, personally I'm cool with absurd characters in my absurd spacemans comedy simulator. I don't think I'd take advantage of an armless spaceman, but then I don't play a sweaty greytider.
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Don't bully Lindy!
She's the best!
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anyone else keeps a list of metagamers? so far I got

Aloraydrel
Djkramer
PrimeD
strawberrytan
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>>256005346
what do they do?
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>>256005445
keep an eye out for wordless interaction
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>>256005346
Are they buddies with admemes as well?
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>>256005536
wordless interaction between each other?
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Damn, it feels good to be a notorious shitter
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>>256006384
>people complained when a youtard posted an ebin griff video
>all the while we had our resident shitters already, either metacomming or toeing the line with laser precision
Why can't we just have fun together
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>>256005346
smoke is in contact with all metaclubs, including but not exclusive to the admin metaclub. I really am curious on what makes you think that though.
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how 2 get in contact with the metaclubs
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>>256006610
I have fun. I don't care if you don't. You can't create fun, you can only take it away from others.
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>>256005346
2 out of 4 are from TG
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gonna need a redpill on veers
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>>256007012
>t. psychopath
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>>256005346
>My name gets posted
based
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>>256006610
This is not a zero sum game, far from it
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>ragin mages appears too often
>reactionary PR to lower weight
>cult appears too often
>reactionary PR to lower weight
>juggernaut is not as easy to kite by a faggot captain with four laser guns
>reactionary PRs to lower damage and to lower dash range
>a bunch of wizards get the doppelganger spell
>reactionary PRs to remove it, lower the max amount and how long they last, remove empowerment, and reduce their health
>a bunch of wizards get the d-push spell
>reactionary PR to nerf it a lot so that you can't do the current d-push without blowing 60 points
When will we have reactionary PRs for things I dislike, unironically?
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this is your retard of the day, say something nice about them

[18:06:57]OOC: (LOCAL) Kate Bishop/Kate bishop (@278,223,1): i have the worst luck
[18:07:13]OOC: (LOCAL) Kate Bishop/Kate bishop (@277,223,1): now that i am dead i was teaitoe
[18:07:22]OOC: (LOCAL) Kate Bishop/Kate bishop (@277,223,1): and you where my victim
[18:07:29]OOC: (LOCAL) Kate Bishop/Kate bishop (@276,223,1): that why i called you
[18:07:44]OOC: (LOCAL) Kate Bishop/Kate bishop (@276,223,1): look at my pockets
[18:08:01]OOC: (LOCAL) Kate Bishop/Kate bishop (@276,223,1): aka the target
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FREE KATE
KATE DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>256009392
they have a very consist naming scheme
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>>256009169
It's almost like it's not the antags fault but d*namics for making every round a clusterfuck of 10 antags
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>>255977115
>Termed
It's been nearly 4 years, it's time to let go Anon.
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>>256009169
dopple was objectively unreasonable
push is too but its not as cancer to live with
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>>256009169
it's been like this for quite awhile
biggest difference when we had heads at the helm was that said leaders would be the ones making the reactionary prs
if people are only noticing this now because their gunker gamemode is being touched to that i say *dab
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>>256009392
I love her.
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>>255977115
What's your ckey?
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I'm going to play a blind deaf captain!
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>>256011914
And yet you still stand a chance of being better than most of our captains
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>>256011914
Doesn't sound half bad, I'd put your hardsuit and internals on you and secure you inside the N2O tank in atmos
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>>255997380
Shall we just get this over with and open an issue for TT and start brainstorming not how we might achieve it but how far we're going to go before its too far?
Naturally the toast lawset board inside TT is a given. The sprites should still be in the archives also.
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Does an implanted nullrod work like a wielded nullrod in terms of fucking with Vampires?
Asking for a powergaming friend
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Post ckeys of people you like.
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>>256012997
Only faggot circlejerkers care about any OOC idenfication.
Post characters you like.
I like Mim the vox mime.
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Give me a job and I will play it exclusively for the next month
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>>256013056
based
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>>256013065
xenoarch
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>>256013065
AI.
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>>256012997
The Italians
Johnny
Francis
Petra Fulton
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>>256013056
>tfw tucking mim in and giving her hot chocolate
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>>256012997
Emilc3h! She is so cute!
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>>256012997
my own ckey
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>>256009169
>there's a problem in the code
>it gets fixed (sometimes after people make it their express purpose to abuse it as hard as possible to intentionally shit up rounds like faggots)
where's the problem here?
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>>256013582
it's when people intentionally abuse it that it is a reactionary PR
cult is not a reactionary PR, it is only Deity intentionally abusing the collabs to force his shitty fucking gamemode
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>>256013056
GOD i want to spend a cozy afternoon with them
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>>256013418
Very uncute, sorry.
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>>256013418
Emilc3h is MINE!!
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>>256013582
Imagine if you wanted to eat food and someone tells the chef that they don't like pineapple pizza and they go for food. Then the furnace starts coming alive and suddenly you have an extinguisher and a goal, to use it on the shard
What
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>>256009169
>house springs leak
>fix leak
>WTF FUCKING REACTIONARIES
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>>256013690
I want to GET FUCKED by Emilc3h!

>>256013705
FUCK YOU HONKY SHE'S MINE
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>>256013664
Cult is fun once every 5 rounds, not every 2
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>>256013765
Emil is mine.. Back off..
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I want to have Raphaella sit on my face
t. Jack
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>>256013808
No, cult is fun once every 60 rounds. It's a shit mode that ALWAYS goes the same direction. Nukeops can fuck up in a spectacular amount of ways, so can most any other antag; and they can get everything they need right from the getgo. Only cult is so incredibly hard to deal with, and you can't really fuck it up if you just follow the pre-determined steps; and worst of all, you need to do all the jecties to unlock all the goodies for yourself. This is Space Station 13, not some fucking gacha unlockable game.
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>>256012997
>tfw no one ever posts my name
what warcrime of faggotry do I have to commit to get recognized?
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>>256013928
Then go make a pr to have all runes unlocked at act 1
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I want Luna to fuck my throat
t. Marcus
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>>256013928
what the fuck is it with cultlets whining so much about spread blood, the easiest fucking jectie in the universe?
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>>256013928
yeah it's the jectieslave gamemode
i called it that a few days ago, people told me i was retarded 'cause "jecties is what cult's all about"
boy did they get quiet fast after the 50th consecutive cult round
guess i was right
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>>256014060
where did you see people whining about this jectie?
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>>256014060
>cleaning grenades ur shit
pssh, nothin personnel kid
*slip*
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Business idea : random modes for cult final phase
Including one in which spray blood and sacrifice are switched fucking holy shit
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business idea
remove cult
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I want someone to hug and walk around in town with
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>>256014376
Static name??
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Business idea: Monetize SS13
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>>256014490
I'm a random namer
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>>256014376
me
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>>256014490
Marcus Murphy
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>>255989993
and all because I printed out like 40 emags.

based mechanics strike again
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>>255989993
I didn't even go full Hitler because I didn't have the sec team ready to go for it, but one day we're going to have to pull a proper department by department recovery and implanting.
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>>255999408
>I play the game to win
What does that even mean? I just dink around and have fun. I get fucked with constantly, it's just a game.
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Who is the biggest unbanned shitter?
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>can hack the holodeck to somehow create unlimited plasma and physical carps
>can hack arcade machines to literally give out bombs and wooden maracas than can be hacked to turn into more bombs
>can hack a plastic lights replacer with no synthetizing parts to create unlimited plasma on the lights put into it
>
>can't hack sound synthetizers to play the duck song
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>>256015704
(you)
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>>256015851
wyci
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>>256015851
duck song?
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>>256016432
https://soundcloud.com/memes_no_dreams/the-duck-suck
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>>255970764
discomuffin is wrong just because his posts look like they were written by a 10 year old mentally retarded child
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>>256016432
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdznSjCW254
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>PAGE 10
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Put static names who you enjoy interacting with
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>>256019413
Io e la mia, i miei e me~
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thinking of buffing e-sword damage to 35
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>>255987191
>sec doing their jobs
>comparable to assistant greyshitting
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>>256020427
When are you going to be repobanned
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>>256020695
NOOOO THE ANTAG RUINED MY ROUND
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>>256020427
you don't buy eswords because of the melee damage
you don't buy ANY melee weapon for the damage if it can't stun
you buy them because of the 50% taser resist and to behead people you have already stunned
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>>256021106
god I hate nu-lights so much
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>only one good mime
>it's a vox
hmm
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Join and ready up for fun
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>>256021370
I don't enjoy the game anymore so I won't
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>>256020929
>i have zero reasons it needs a buff so instead i'll spout shitty memes
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I really really want to start playing this but it feels like the sheer amount of sekrit club discord circlejerk metagaming would ruin it for me. Like I just want to make a random character each round, play aroundx RP a little and have fun without some popular kid's Meme OC character that spawns every single round ruining it for me.
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>>256022000
you've been reading too much into the shitty pubby server memeing
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>>256022000
just play autismo, there isnt much sekrit clubism. just do it jeez.
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>>256022000
>random character
>RP
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>>256022146
>no sekrit clubism
>metagrudging
>static faggotry
>powergaming autism
>admin abus
theres plenty of the worst multiplayer RP shittery here
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reminder that discord is shit and anyone who doesnt exclusively use the thread is impure
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>>256022901
this
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>>256020695
when i become collab and speed-merge dab revival
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>>256022000
If you're so autistic you wont play because shitposts in a vg thread have made you this worried...
Pic related I guess
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>>256022000
just dont play on some shitty server and you'll be fine
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>>256022901
I use the wikichannel and neogorilla
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>>256022901
Admins are using discord to hide policies, discussion and changes from people who don't frequent it. You don't need to participate in it, you don't need an account to only read.
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>>256025417
the shitposts are absolute truth, even retarded newfag jobbies get fucked with by powergaming/murderboning autism
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>>256022000
Don't trust the thread, or anything you read on 4chan.
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>>256026091
Either there's more than one discord, or you're lying, since the current one has nothing but silence for 2 days with a sprinkle of shitposts or server alerts.
>>
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>>256026091
There is absolutely no discussion, policies and changes on any of the 4 medias the server spawns - git, thread, discord and forums
Git is the closest place you have to actual server policy discussion
The forums are dead and perpetually nukified
Nobody takes the discord seriously because of its flow-of-shitposting nature
Nobody takes the thread seriously either
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>>256027258
this reads like malf AI
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>>256026285
experience from new player:
>get head blown off less than 3 mins into the round, this was my second round playing the game
>experience two sub 20 minute rounds in a row because of plasmaflood faggotry
>got lynched and my head blown off by a grey for leaving my job for 2 minutes
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>>256022901
I am in it but have muted all channels except server-status and policy-announcements
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>>256027807
>antags antagonized me
Wew lol
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>>256030814
But Smoke has ugly hair
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>>256005346
>mfw all those ckeys are mine
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good ride
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>>256022000
just give it a try
at worst you'll lose a few hours of your time
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>>256032128
>ayys can rest to "sleep"
>mice can't
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>>256032128
yes
very nice
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>>256032128
That was a beautiful round. Good use of an antag roll to start a gang.
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join and ready
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>>256030814
lol, cuck.
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>>256032128
So, from start to finish
>syndicate assistant
>other assistant starts a gang
>Lindy comes up to Jack and asks about the gang because the guy isn't responding
>We figure everyone else joined it so Jack tells Lindy to join his gang, the Pirate Poncho Mariachi gang
>she agrees, we go looking for money for instruments and a way to get costumes
>later run into the other gang leader, he's dressed as an owl
>we tell him we have our own gang
>he gets aggressive
>we meet him again later and he's a wizard owl with a scalpel
>attacks me, then Lindy, and knocks me out
>get into three fights, each getting more bloody each time until we're both in the hospital
>security keeps asking questions, we say nothing, Lindy keeps her lips sealed
>we decide we need to get strapped
>we tell Roman our plan and he decides to help us break into the armoury
>armoury has a slime killing someone in the obvious aftermath of a staff of change war
>grab all the armoury's guns and leave
>lindy has no arms so I have all the guns
>we get the instruments because the HoP lent us his credit card, pick a guitar for me and a harmonica for limbless Lindy
>Roman asks us why we're always bumming around in the hallways and how come we don't have a base
>brashly tell him we have a base in the ghetto bar
>go make a base in the ghetto bar, Roman fits it out,
>Wiznerd Owlman shows up with a staff of change looking for a fight, changes Lindy
>blast him with my gat
>hide the body while no one cares because he was a nerd
>change Lindy back into something almost like a human, but with arms
>we start making plans on how to play instruments annoyingly
>Lindy disappears during this time to go afk and the other mechanic Hanz joins the gang
>all of us are in ponchos with eyepatches
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>>256032915
>Not just watching and then slowly joining them
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>>256033348
>we all panic and go looking for Lindy because she went afk in a bathroom, search the whole station
>break into perma looking for her, turns out Raoul Duke was sleeping in there
>he's grumpy and awake
>he tells us Lindy might be in there
>we break in and he snitches on us
>Hanz tazes him for being a dirty fucking snitch
>security is now anxious about us with their borg army ready, cargo is preparing for war and calling us the "RAINBOW GANG"
>Its the Mariachi Poncho Pirate gang you fucking idiots
>borgs are hot on us, prowling the base
>we also find Lindy in a bathroom because whoops
>they're on robocop now and preparing their shitter tasers
>staff of change them to humans thinking it will be a better result
>they become skeletons and ACK ACK their way to stealing the staff and shooting it everywhere
>become an unathi female
>Roman is the only one left unscathed
>the staff of change is stolen in the confusion because one of the borgs became a Grue and freaked out
>the staff ends up in the hands of the QM
>QM loses his shit, starts to form a xenos army, freaking out his cargo techs
>they drop the chase of the other Mariachi Unathi Poncho Pirate Priestess gang members and I come out of the shadows to make peace
>we free Hanz and meet with Raoul in person
>I offer peace terms
>He stops making the xenos army
>in return I stop playing my instruments while he's trying to sleep
>we shake and he gives me the clown as a captive to guarantee the peace
>we go back to our base to chill out and listen to the superjuke
>cargo comes to our base to chill too
>Lindy comes back from afk and we tell her what happened
>shuttle comes
>we all go home while I play us the song of my people
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Why is sec filled with gays?
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>>256031275
nuh uh smoke has cool hair
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>>256034928
god i wish all sec officers would gang up on me
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>>256034928
The entire game is filled with gays. Without anyone telling them to not inject their fetish they just feedback until straights are a minority.
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I'm sorry, but Nia is the basic bitch Waifu hair. You're right, it does look nice, but over the years of seeing every literal who thot gravitate to that style in neon bright/white color, it's impossible to separate the sprite work from the connotations.
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>>256035289
>until straights are a minority
>until
Heh, got some news for you, kiddo...
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>>256035373
we all know Ponytail 2 is the supreme hair style
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>>256035289
>help help i'm being oppressed!!!
get fucked, libtard
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>>256013753
>house springs leaks
>just say fuck it and sawzall the fucking main
This is what actually has happened.
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>>256034928
Manly coworkers
Comradeship
The stunbaton
Uniform fetish
Dom/sub fantasies (in which you can insert yourself as any party)
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>>256033471
>>He stops making the xenos army
>>in return I stop playing my instruments while he's trying to sleep
only in SS13
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>>256036217
i think you're talking about ling removal rather than any of the examples given in >>256009169
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>>255997251
>I would have a bwoink before the first body even hit the floor.
I've done it bwoinklessly, I honestly think the admins want us a bit more ruthless sec at this point.

>things I've gotten away with without bwoinkings as sec while actively not trying to be security
>cutting a guys head off for trying to slip me while I was carrying a prisoner back to the brig
>beating someone to death for GB&E x 3
>lynching someone for being a shitter x 2
>brigging vox for being alive x 5
I don't even play much either.
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>>256036217
But you didn't mention vox raiders or ling at all
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>>256037110
>i think you're talking about ling removal rather than any of the examples given in
Not at all, ling removal was the replacing of a copper system due to a leak due to a single bad solder joint with a shitty cpvc system installed by your uncle Greg.
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>>256037892
more like tearing down the moldy and abandoned theme park out by the quarry that nobody likes anymore and we only go there by force because uncle Greg insists it was good enough for him growing up
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Noob question:

1. How do I type in the green/common chat?

2. As a janitor, how do I refill my water bucket/janitor cart?
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>>256039193
Use ";" before you say something.
Use a water tank or a sink.
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>>256039193
click bucket to sink/watertank, click tank to cart
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>>256039383
>>256039613
Thanks bros
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you know what you guys dont realize is that ling is apart of the meta already and will forever be and beaner ass vampires will never replace that
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>>256037682
>>things I've gotten away with without bwoinkings as sec while actively not trying to be security
>>256037682
>>256037682
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>>256039959
be sure to prioritize cleaning blood if theres a lot of it, that could mean cult.
put on galloshes from the closet so you don't slip and also bring soap for smaller stains, it's infinite as far as I know
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Dubs decide which job I roll next round.
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>>256040970
janitor buttslut to gaysec
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>>256040970
captain
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>>256040165
>ling is apart of the meta
sure is apart now, that's the point of a removal
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>>256041028
how do i do that
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lads how do I into crafting? I want to learn how to build shit so I have something to do when rounds are going slow.
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>security faggots arguing again that HoS is above the other Heads and on the same level as HoP in the chain of succession
It's Captain > HoP > Other Heads
Get it in your fucking skull you retarded redshirts.
>B-But I can't validhunt without all access
Security players are some of the most pathetic human beings I have ever seen. You're not important. Fuck off and rim your AIDS infected boyfriend irl you degenerate homosexual cocksucker.
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how does currency work? do you start with a certain amount and it refreshes each time or is it constant between playthroughs?
either way is it useful at all and if so how do I get more?
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>>256041151
and thats the problem with /vg/ gentlemen we severed the most unique antag and replaced it with a lesser antag and then we allowed the admins to SELFantag
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>>256041193
*Captain > Hop > HoS ≥ Other Heads
Depending on situation, given the HoS is given captaincy if the above two are vacant or dead and they have the right to detain the other Heads, including the Cap and Hop within reason.
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boutta head out
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>>256041408
You get paid at X intervals.
Mostly to buy shit from vending machines.
Only way you get more money than just payroll or selling things to other people is mining.
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>>256041193
HoP and HoS are the same in importance
HoP is for civil affairs while HoS is for security matters

I would actually agree with HoP being second in command if he was actually given the tools to be second in command, IE basic sec gear for self-defence of such a high value target, and if we actually took him like a second in command rather than a joke pencil pusher or ebin bureaucrat griff

In essence, if you want HoP to be second in the line of succession, make them the second in command with the standards that it entails
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>>256041193
This, dont know why sec thinks they are the hot shit every round
>B-But we kill the antags
Fuck off
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>>256041842
t. el ablino
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>>256038920
Ling would have been fine if para/stun were ever removed. It's like Uncle Greg molesting you as a kid and then suddenly saying it's okay when he wears a dracula outfit.
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The only viable hierachy is merit anyways
You can be sure that if a CMO is made "acting cap" but doesn't even bother to equip the captain's headset or implant himself I'm not letting him in the armoury
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>>256041842
Because the second that alert level rises they have the absolute right to shove a baton up your ass for any reason whatsoever.
I don't like it either but dems da breaks.
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>>256040313
I meant to say shitcurity.
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>>256042383
This.
Fancy titles are meaningless if they aren't accompanied by competency and charismatic authority.
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>>256042383
*chloral hyposprays and permabrigs you for mutiny*
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>>256042620
Do you really think I'm letting a non-implanted CMO waltzing his way to armoury standing in hypospray distance of me
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>>256042383
Head whitelisting when?
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>>256041842
>>256041712
>>256041487
>>256041193

The unofficial and sometimes official for CoC (not sucession) are as follow: Captain>everyone. Where people get confused is the HoP who technically has no authority over anyone else's department and is simply another head. That means no a HoP can't walk into your department whether it be Sec or Medical and do whatever the fuck he wants just because he has access and you have the right to fuck him up for it if he gets out of line. In terms of succession the HoP is indeed ALWAYS second in line though as his secondary role is being the captain's maid. Without either available technically the HoS should be in control but /vg/ has no sec and might makes right so the most robust department heads become the true new captain.
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>>256042368
but people don't like vamp either
Uncle Greg is going to jail and you're screaming at the cops NOO LET HIM GO MY SCHOOL BULLY STILL BEATS ME #BEG4GREG
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>>256043194
The problem with HoP is that it's litteraly three roles in one
>Head of Cargo/Service
>General Secretary/ID changes slut
>Second in command
All of these are enough to warrant a considerable amount of self-preservation instinct and being somewhat active in the station's life, especially when it's danger (you have a SPS, use it)
I would argue that because they are more likely to interact with the crew and help them, HoPs usually are easier to follow than Captains and better for ordering people around, if you gain their trust that is
Problem is people insist that HoPs should be a damsel in distress not doing anything worthy of note, not even checking SPSes
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After S*curity players change chain of succession so the HoS is second in line they will change it again so HoS is above captain
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>>256043781
HoS is already very much the real captain for all practical aspects
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How do we make Cap fun to play?
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>>256045163
Cap is already fun to play.
t. Cap Main
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>>256045163
make the clown captain
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>tfw no armless gf
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>MoMMI making thousands of coins
don't do this, it causes byond gas and crashes clients
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>>256045837
Almost only two kinds of players play captain, ultrapowergamers without even the social aspect of a security team, or memelords who are just greyshirts with all access
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>>256045980
>Almost only two kinds of players
how many weasel words can fit in a sentence
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>>256045980
I just go around inspecting departments and making sure moral is high. Captain is the most social role.
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apparently you can hookshot out of a cryosleeper without updating the sprite/the flag that says you're in the sleeper.

>borer bro saves me from someone trying to give me the sleepy juice
>pass out anyways because I never technically left the sleeper in the eyes of the almighty code

Th-thanks.
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>>256046105
You don't understand, the more qualifiers, the harder it is to be proven wrong!
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>>256043675
>The problem with HoP is that it's litteraly three roles in one
Not really, the problem with HoP is people take the "second in command" line way to literally.

>Head of Cargo/Service
Only should be getting involved if they are fucking up, unlike other heads there's no reason to even care and it's arbitrary.

>General Secretary/ID changes slut
Actual HoP job, surprisingly easy to make fun if you don't just auto approve/deny everything

>Second in command
In so much that you are the Captain's direct bitch and take over for him if he dies. You are not actually secondary king dick of the station.

>All of these are enough to warrant a considerable amount of self-preservation instinct and being somewhat active in the station's life, especially when it's danger (you have a SPS, use it)
I would argue that because they are more likely to interact with the crew and help them, HoPs usually are easier to follow than Captains and better for ordering people around, if you gain their trust that is
Problem is people insist that HoPs should be a damsel in distress not doing anything worthy of note, not even checking SPSes
No, HoP's job is to be station manager and cap's lap dog, no more no less. If another department asks for help you can go help them otherwise let them do their own thing (assuming they have a head). HoP is a paper pushing bureaucratic lap dog except in situations where he has to take over a department until he finds a competent head (which he should asap). Too many people play HoP completely wrong which ruins the role for absolutely everybody.
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>>256046345
>blah blah you're the captain lapdog
If and only if the captain proves himself worthy of it
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>>256046814
No nigger, that's not how this works. You're literally picking a lapdog job. You can play it plenty of ways but no one here seems to know how RP works and HoP is a very RP heavy role. Until you figure out what you and aren't allowed to do as HoP your best RP option is to play a nefarious sycophant regardless of how retarded cap is.
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I AM ANGRY
ANGRY AT WHOEVER TOUCHED THE HOTKEY MODE "T" HANDLING FOR SAY

WHEN I CLICK THE RED X I WANT THE THINGS I TYPED UP TO BE DELET'D, NOT ADDED TO MY NEXT SENTENCE

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO OPEN MULTIPLE WINDOWS EACH WITH DIFFERENT WORDS, INSTEAD OF BEING FORCED TO USE JUST ONE WINDOW BECAUSE IT REMEMBERS EVERYTHING.

FUUUUCK YOU DAMIANX, I KNOW YOU HAD THE BEST INTENTIONS BUT YOU GUNKED THE WAY I PLAY THE GAME.

UGH
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>>256046345
>surprisingly easy to make fun if you don't just auto approve/deny everything
Teach me your secrets
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>ss13 not mentioned at E3
DEAD GAME
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>>256047513
but did you BUG REPORT it?
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>>256047513
Wait, there was an update to that? Is that why F3 didn't work for me today?
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>>256047513
>he clicks the X
that's an oversight, I'll see if I can fix it
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how do i close the right click menu without left clicking
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>>256047912
Be the biggest fucking bureaucratic possible, I don't want to give it all away but that's all there is to it. People will probably fucking hate you but that's fine because fuck them, you have a job to do and that job is to act as much like a IRL permitting department as possible.
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got the say windows changed? it's really weird now
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>>256041151
Hey guys, Peter Griffin from Family Guy here. So basically, the joke here is that the other guy typed "apart" all together instead of "a part" with a space, and "apart" can mean "separated from" so it's a witty piece of wordplay in reference to ling having been removed.
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Why doesn't hitting escape close text box anymore, please send help aaaaa
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>>256034928
>>256034928
>>256034928
As HoS, i always enforce a strict no homo policy when it comes up, hasn't yet, but thats not important
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>>256051259
>claims to have a 'no homo policy'
>hotdogs the first bird (male) his security drags in
Sure
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>>256051341
>projecting
i've unironcally never had problem with vox, either nobody reports them or nobody cares with their thievery
hell, i've even bought some stuff off of em.
but greys? yeah, i harmbaton their ass till it bleeds
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>>256051581
What do you think 'hotdog' means
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>>256051658
no clue in spess terms, besides why hotdog when you can go in?
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>>256047313
There is absolutely no authority in this game besides charismatic authority. If you want the HoP to be your lapdog, prove yourself worthy of it
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How do you sting as Dionae?
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>>256052489
>what are the rules of the game
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>Be plant scientist
>Chilling on roid
>Black stealthsuit vox says he needs to get back to the station, tell him he can go around
>By this he thought I meant smash his way in on the other side
>Cult stuff happens
>Decide to plant garlic for holy water
>Go to make a trade with traders, unable to contact them and smash my way in
>Halfway see a trader, we talk things out and he wants me to pay for damages and then talk about seed price
>I offer him all the money in my PDA, not enough have to go to an ATM
>Seeing me go through all this effort I double check and ask if there's really a cult? RD ensures me
>Head back to my station broken to pieces by vox and they have the nerve to want me to pay to repair theirs
>Ok scumbag
>I head and smash my way in and steal the garlic I wanted
>He comes back, kidnaps me and breaks in, kills all my plants via lack of atmos and spaces me
>When I get back he spaces my chem dispenser too
>I recruit the RD and borg to help hunt him
>They both bail
>Vox pops out hiding in our station and kidnaps me again
>Nobody comes to rescue because they're fighting an imaginary cult
Sometimes your coworkers are there for you less than the vox
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I like when people shitpost about me but I will never confront them when they do because I don't want to seem like an attention whore.
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>>256053506
who u?
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Why can't silicons follow their laws?
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>>256053506
>Now we begin name dropping all shitters on the server
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>>256053481
RD sucked for all of us that round
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>>256053506
>not lashing out with fury and biting whoever lays a hand on you
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i never used hotkey mode
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>All that grief and ends up being extended
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I don't blame you, Little Helper. There was a lot of chaos and you just got caught up in it
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>>256054018
Extended turns the round into even more of a Prison experiment than it normally is.
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Little Helper is based. Don't ban him
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>>256054157
>prison experiment
even prisons have better cohesion then this shit of a station game
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>>256054338
>even prisons have better cohesion then this shit of a station game
I almost killed an inmate worker yesterday because he was doing maintenance between the fences and the work squad officer didn't tell anybody.
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So, based on the escalating shittery of my fellow grey shirts during the weekend I think I've come up with a solution for the Spare boogaloo.

If someone nabs that fukken card that isnt supposed to, the station heads should escalate to red alert and the boys in red should crack skulls until they retrieve it, and the HoP should verify all IDs on the station have the correct access.

This will do two things:
1: It will discourage shitters because they will inevitably resist security during the red alert and get removed from the round.
2: It will start a culture of discouraging the mad ID grab because of how much it disrupts the round.
A bonus is that the truly shit will inevitably keep getting round removed and a helping it, leading to the establishment of a protocol by the admin team in regards to discouraging retarded behavior that disrupts the round, often worse than the actual antags.
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>>256053481
>be trader, want to explore space
>scientist asks if anyone is on the outpost, go to the roid entrance and see what he wants
>hes standing in a pile of broken glass, oxygen from the human containment zone has contaminated half the outpost
>has the nerve to immediately demand garlic
>tell him he can fuck off til he pays for fucking up the place
>he doesn't have enough, tell him he can be forgiven by repairing the damage
>wait for a bit
>go out to see the whole place has been smashed up, breached and random doors welded shut
>garlic stolen, not even slightly doubtful who did it
>head to xenobotany, smash my way in, cuff him and toss him out the window, (had a space suit on)
>destroy his plants so he doesn't get free garlic
>he whines over comms like I was the aggressor as I'm repairing shit, he drifted back to the station in less than five minutes
>go back to his plantcave, throw the chem dispenser and seed extractor out the window for the insult
>hear doors, jump in firesuit closet
>RD pokes his head in and leaves again
>Scientist comes back, axe in hand and beelines for my hiding spot
>throw another bolas, cuff and put in a cage
>everyone leaves before I can sell him back to the station for repair money
>also outpost was halfheartedly bombed at somepoint
>didn't get to explore space
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>>256054462
>prisoners in charge of maintenance for their own barriers
I shiggy diggy
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>>256054462
why didnt you just ask over common if he was valid?
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>>256053441
Authority is an IC Issue
If you want me to follow your orders make yourself worth of it cappy boy
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>tfw security will never take you to the brig showers for some private time

quick post cutest sec bfs
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>>256053441
>you will get banned for ignoring someone
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>>256054682
>imagine paying for landscapers when you have infinite free labor
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>>256053506
this makes mustard gas don't do it
t. been there once
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>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE ALL ACCESS NOOOOOOOOOO
>WHY ARE YOU HACKING INTO MY DEPARTMENT YOU SHITTER
>YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT NOOO
>SECURITY TO MEDBAY PLEASE ASSISTANTS ARE GREYTIDING
>NOOO YOU CAN'T RAID THE ARMORY
Jobbie tears are delicious
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>>256056003
t. butthurt greytider that sec harmbatoned him to death
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god I want to fuck Smoke's pert asshole with my massive dong. Just gape 'em one day after getting him into solitary confinement.
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>>256056003
>five minutes later
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>>256056003
>take away golden key
>i was hacking anyways lol
>take away hacking
>kick a glass shard into sci, steal goggles, start breaking walls
>take away these things
>sci cucked lol
>take them away anyways
>''borg law 2 let me in this place'' lol
>take away borgs
>game is better
it is all going according to plan
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>>256056221
>take away assistant limbs
>all problems solved
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>>256056557
sorry did you just HARM a HUMAN on ASIMOV? Get dabbed on and locked down kiddo
>remove borgs
>game is better
all according to plan
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>>256056657
not harm if it's surgery :^)
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>>256056782
Sorry kiddo but it iddo
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>>256056657
>whoops, this patient has internal bleeding in all four limbs, the only treatment that will save them in time is amputation. Borg, mind doing 8 laps around the bridge while we work? What am I saying? of course you don't mind. Better make it 12.
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>>256013224
who the fuck are the italians
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>>256056889
>AI watches you
>Calls sec the moment you do anything including break camera
>Conviniently doesn't hear any order not to do this
>Admins side with it if called out because silicons can do no wrong
sorry bro did you intend to get MEMED UPON
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>>256057092
>AI has been told this too
>I am sec
>If there's one things AIs always notice, its the sec channel
>I am the admin
Enjoy nuggethood
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>>256057279
>To make silicons not dab on your plans to non-antag remove all limbs from assistant in a server where captains have been banned for this, you simply need to be sec admin
Enjoy your deadmin lol
JUST as PLANNED
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give silicons the Exadv1 treatment when?
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I just want to creampie a qt clown girl is that so much to ask?
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>>256056209
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>>256056209
>>256058159
how thick and how deep do you think Smoke can take...?
Asking for a friend, ha ha.
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>>256056209
silly sec lads, you'll never get me. I have never been caught for a crime ONCE
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>>256058364
>>256058398
answer me.
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>>256056209
god I wish sec was actually as comfy as that image implies it is.
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>>256058398
now that i think about it, its true, you've only ever really been on secs side, or neutral, i think maybe once we've brought you in, but it was for some small sentece
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>>256058518

>sec
>think
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>>256054489
To be fair I checked the air alarm and the oxygen was only 6%
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>>256058456
smoke can probably take a fair bit, not nearly as much as arie though. You try that much and he'll probably start to cry.

I could always write something up for you anon.
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>>256059595
Nice. Can't say no about writefagging.
My static name is KC Hexton. ship me up some nice books for the library.
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Nice. Can't say no about writefagging.
My static name is Casey Levett. ship me up some nice books for the library.
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Nice. Can't say no about writefagging.
My static name is Jack Dale. ship me up some nice books for the library.
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>>256059842
alrighty, it's in my to-do list. Gay or no gay?
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>>256060541
don't put some schmucks actual name in
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>>256060804
anon, shipping is for fucking losers, of course I won't. But that doesnt answer the fucking question.
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Is there a guide anywhere on how to fix up the R-UST and TEG on deff?
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>>256061308
The entire guide to engineering
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>>256061147
where do you think we are? of course gay
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>>256041193
>>B-But I can't validhunt without all access
>Security players are some of the most pathetic human beings I have ever seen. You're not important. Fuck off and rim your AIDS infected boyfriend irl you degenerate homosexual cocksucker.
if all of this is true why are ‘shirts & mechanics rushing the spare round the clock
sounds like this post wants to hold others to a standard it does not hold itself too
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>>256041193
Everyone is equal, but HoP is next in line for acting captain.

Literally works down this chain
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>>256063148
Which wiki is this from? The VG wiki specifically says HoS is third in line
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>>256063148
Chain of Command /=/ Chain of Succession but your first line is correct in non-security emergencies. In security emergencies the HoS formally becomes 3rd in command people hitching their wagon to this old ass article may also refer to the HoS wiki page that actually contradicts it and calls him “third in command.” It’s not the end of the world, but I see that as one of the foolish elements of hitching your wagon to unsupported wiki pages.
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>>256063430
*third in succession for captaincy
derp
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>>256063430
You dumb bitch. I literally just said that. In Chain of command, they are equal. In chain of succession, HoS is 3rd
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>>256063604
It does not work down that chain as the heap of jobbies below the hos are all equal candidates for captaincy but youre right that they don’t matter. The last time I saw an unimplanted head of staff that actually comprehended captaincy was in 2018. The others are #noheadset #nodisk tier
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clearly there are only 2 non-retarded solutions
1) re-add forcing a random person to be captain if none signs up
2) bwoink spare speedrunners
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>>256063872
I suggested (1) in that forsaken PR and it pissed off a spare rushing mechanic
I still think it’s workable, though
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>>256059842
>>256059913
>>256060482
sickos, smoke is for pure handholding.
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>>256063872
>1) re-add forcing a random person to be captain if none signs up
That's a terrible solution.

>2) bwoink spare speedrunners
Also a terrible solution. What rule are they breaking?
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>>256064018
while receiving dicking.
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>>256063872
What if the spare was locked in a secure locker or ID safe that requires Captain access?
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Remove the spare, it's nothing but non-antag bait. The HoP can already print all access as needed, the HoS has a big fucking battering ram that is all access as well, CE can hack or delete as needed, Scienceman has a lot of solutions to locked places as well, and the Medhead never leaves.
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>>256064098
Or any head access in case of emergency
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>>256064069
repeated spare speedrunning used to be bannable
im gonna transform into a boomer by the end of the year but it pisses me off that no one seems to remember this
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>>256064250
It never used to be bannable.
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>>256064393
quit tryin to ablino tf me it aint gonna work
i eat shitty pizza
i stay noided
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>>255975165
Good gawd stop sucking your own dick
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>>256065135
no it's tasty.
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which static is the least fun to interact with?
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>>256067857
I want to BUST on that christmas cake!
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>>256067857
fuck off you drama whore
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>>256067984
>loli milf
japan is truly ascended
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>>256067857
(you)
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>>256052489
Nigger there's a reason there's heads, there are designated bosses in this fucking game and it's actually a crime to not follow the hierarchy
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>>256068982
keeping in mind that sop is itself instructive to space law, all that sop stuff is even less binding than space law which is itself a guideline*.
all this means practically is that you won't be banned for ignoring a captain or hos's orders you think are dumb as a security officer
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>>256069562
>durr it's a guideline
I don't think a non-shitter has ever said this in the history of veegstation
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>>256069871
In fairness if your superior is incompetent you should report them to the HoP.

the HoP does his investigation then decides whether or not a demotion should happen, thats another job of the HoP.
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>>256069871
>4. Space Law should be seen as the baseline on how to treat prisoners with respect to brig timers and standard arrest procedure. Some freedom in its interpretation and application is allowed, but repeated abuses may result in a job ban.
if you want nonantags to respect SOP & the law, then that too would eliminate the vast majority of spare rushing as it would render (all) spare rushing bannable
hence the difficulty they find in attempting to advocate the "well... you should actually enforce the law" angle (because actually enforcing the law entails their arrest at which point they flip flop back to... "it's just a guideline! go away, it's victimless.")
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>>256068982
>Heads thinking they matter
cute
here is the facts of heads:
Cap: An excuse for shitters to try and force their gimmicks in favor of securing the disc, dying, then having the round end because they never secured the disc
HoP: Wannabe sec for unrobust people who want to muscle in on sec but then go ''not my prob lol'' when anyone actually fights back
HoS: Essentially a regular sec officer since he never uses his authority to request law changes for AI, only has 2 guys serving under him if lucky most games, so he has very little authority over anyone and doesn't use what he does have as he'd rather just silent shuffle
CE: Functionally no different to an engineer since they spawn in with the tools to hack into his office and press the one button this job exists to press
RD: Outside of having ai upload access, no dif to any other member of sci, which is to say he's every job at once with an offstation outpost sec has no access to where he can do illegal shit in.
CMO: Functionally identical to all other medbay staff outside of paramedic since for some reason basically everyone in med has identical access to fucking everything. Actually has less access than geneticists.

Heads can't do anything regular players in their deperments can't do beyond yell ''reeeeeeee'' ic while having a meltdown because no one gave them respect they never earned because they clicked 1 button higher in the list. And the few times they DO excersize this power to demote people, it tends to be out of sheer butthurt rather than any real justification and promptly get them head banned anyways
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>>256071002
>warden out of brig
and banned from warden
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>>256064069
If breaking into the armory roundstart is bannable after only one week of it, then how come breaking into the cap's office roundstart for a whole year isn't?
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>>256063872
>Get random capped
>Kill myself
>Get banned
>This happens to everyone
>The one guy who plays cap plays space 13 alone
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>>256070443
You missed the point entirely, this whole argument is about how HoP is SUPPOSED to be played and what it's actual role is, getting into how other heads play their role wrong too is a whole other can of fucking worms. As it stands right now HoPs being complete ass has more of an impact on rounds than the others (the HoS would be debatable but that poor retard usually only has command of 2 guys like you said).
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>>256064098
>Locker
oh no how will i break open this locker thats next to the axe that breas lockers while 2 handed i can grab without any access by smahing open with the toolbox right fucking next to it as if this was all set up just for me to do this
maybe i will shoot it with an emitter or blow it up because lockers are fucking worthless for protecting anything
>safe
either i can hack this. or i cant. and if i cant, no one can get in it but cap. when the id exists as a backup cap. so now unless a hop joined and gives himself cap access, the spare doesn't even exist
a safe locked behind 'spare' access which all heads get on their ids would work except i can totally break into safes without much issue too
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>>256072256
>axe that breas lockers while 2 handed
from which fucking server do you hail from, refugee
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>>256072308
>he isnt a master of the mechanics of every server
brainlet
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>>256072390
>plays other servers
space yourself my man
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Who’s the best and worst clown
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>>256072445
>he played here during the great exadus of like 2 years ago when we had nothing but malf ai deadpop 24/7
sasuga

>>256072470
feet nigga is the only clown player i can remember at the moment and only because he's bad enough to stick in my mind
>never makes jokes
>never honks
>never slips
>never makes unreasonable requests for a laff
>never does anything funny
>instantly drops any pretense of being a clown at the first sign of anything dangerous
>his only gimmick is calling himself feet nigger and saying feet
and he does it every fucking round so no one who actually wants to play clown can
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0z_7bKm258
Spacekisser antag when
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>>256072689
>want to make dumb jokes I've harvested from years of back issues of readers digest and give people the slipp
>even have a tiny list of dumb clown names
>every time I try to play clown it's either PIGPOOPBALLSNIGGERLMAO the clown or that one retard who still thinks abridged is funny
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>>256058398
Except when I tossed you into space and not telescornce oops for repeatedly running into the bridge with all access and an emag on code red
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>>256033348
>>256033471
that round was gunk for me
>be assistant
>see the clown bullying lindy
>bully him back
>suddenly he unzips a staff of change from his back and uses it on me
>become a lizardman
>take off and start to hunt the clown for my revenge
>find him with a nanotrasen baloon
>stun him, steal his baloon and hide it
>slip the sec chasing me. stun baton the clown and drag him around the maint for a bit
>security arrests me and takes me to the execution chamber to threaten me
>he then drags me to the sec lockers and uses the staff of change on me to make me into something balid
>uses the staff of change and i become a catbeast, he then drops me on the ground
>however whilst trying to get on top of me he slips on the banana peel that was in my pocket allowing me to grab the staff of change
>i shoot the officer and the clown with it. officer becomes a slime and clown becomes a frankensteins monster(?). in any case clown becomes something humanoid that is now immune to the staffs power
>they try to change the sec back with the staff but it doesn't work. some assistant steals the staff and the security is stuck as a monkey
>clown shortly after kills himself and the monkey security is almost killed by the captain for trying to stun baton him. i think the sec offed himself after getting humaned as well

i then joined the round again as a cyberbrain cyborg and was borged 3 more times with the staff of change. then i became a xeno without a queen and the combat borgs killed me

overall eh round. the security guy got job banned for his shittery though
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Reminder that you can activate darkmode (and other stuff) by pressing the goonchat settings menu
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what the actual FUCK was going on with those Chronogrenades? Sometimes the effect would go off without even any being activated or thrown?
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>>256077369
as a reminder the retard with the black market pr wants the chronogrenades to be sold hahah wouldnt that just be epic!
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>>256077369
I don't know but it deleted everyone's items in the brig.
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>>256077365
It's beautiful.
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KING CRIMSON
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that time shits was cool
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>>256077369
man I don't know. But I do know one was spawned in magically when Dragan was cuff buckled in a cell.

Heavy scent of serious badminry going on. I don't want to sound like an accusatory faggot but, seriously, what was the alternative? How did any of that shit happen legitimately?
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>>256077596
badmins spawning shit
only really pissed me off when it deleted everyone's items, which i'm pretty sure was unintentional
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>People screaming out shitcurity when they get caught in the AI core at roundstart
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>>256077365
>he actually did it
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>>256077596
>>256077369
>Sonix spawned that shit in for his bud-o-pal SmallBoss to allow him to get out of being arrested.

handled. In. Discord.
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>Self-requested. Good luck with IRL stuff. You'll be missed!
>He actually is not missed
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>>256077705
It's ok because security was being a shit.
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>>256077824
Security was fine that round, I believe you made your mission statement clear at round start.
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>>256077824
sonix would've done the same shit were he an officer in that situation desu
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>>256077824
security is always fine, they just have to get extreme when the assistants keep shitting everything up and raiding brig
ever seen a good dec officer? it doesn't last longer then one round, thanks to greys
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>>256077824
>Security being shit
>For arresting people with contraband and all access
Yeah we should roll over while you gunk the round
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I really like playing HoP but playing captain is agony, I can see why its so unpopular.
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>>256070078
>the HoP does his investigation then decides whether or not a demotion should happen, thats another job of the HoP.
Wrong, that's the job of the Captain. Only under extreme circumstances would the HoP be allowed to make that call.
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>>256078064
2 of them did have all access yeah which i revoked
>arrest assistants with all access
>admins spawn shit because they see that as shitcurity
*deathgasp
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Somthing that's happened a few times I've never got. Not recently since I got bored of AI
>Get one humaned by RD
>He does nothing with it
>Was not antag
In hindsight I should have ahelped it
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>>256078135
promoting and demoting people is literally the HoP's job, the captains allowed to overrule his decision but its still the HoP's decision.
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>>256078141
>>256078064
>And this is why we have no sec, ever
Barely any heads and a fast declining playerbase again. Our admins are currently worse than when Goldsteel and MaiPai were simutaniously admin.
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>>256078135
what the fuck did you smoke before making this post
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So, what happened? An admin made it a point to abuse spawned in chrono grenades to let another admin player out of the consequences of being arrested?

I'm at work currently but I hope to fuck you faggots are log diving for that. That sounds like Cancer.
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>>256078135
Youre hurting my brain with your stupid.
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>>256078378
On that note, did anyone make any feedback thread for the admin who checked antags to make sure he was killing a non-antag as non-antag with an antags help? Or do we not care about that aspect because the victim was such a whiny bitch its now okay for admins to abuse admin commands then join, non-antag murder and ban a guy for killing back
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>>256078378
I don’t really know if it was to free him, it was just to gunk shit up
But speaking broadly, admins going “oh yeah this is shitcurity let’s bus some stuff”
Both
A) when that admin would’ve done the same thing as sec (sonix is definitely not lax on assistants or those with all access)
and
B) when said admin doesn’t have the facts (the assistants *did* rob some one in a petty mugging & 2 of which had all access)
That ain’t a situation I wanna be in
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>>256078378
Veers isnt keeping his admins in check and pomf isnt paying it any attention.
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>>256078575
>implying veers even cares about what admins do in the first place
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>>256078670
as to be expected from someone promoted literally as a joke
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>>256078569
Its okay, its all part of their masterplan to make all sec players banned or not want to play sec, so cult always wins and Diety can finally be validated
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>>256078217
>>256078292
>>256078468

>promoting and demoting people is literally the HoP's job, the captains allowed to overrule his decision but its still the HoP's decision.
Nope, wrong, and Sseth tier. The HoP is only to promote/demote if authorized by said department head, since heads themselves are of equal rank to the HoP he does not have any direct authority to demote them unless the captain says so. Just because a sec officer CAN perma whoever the fuck he wants doesn't mean he's doing his job right.
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>>256077365
does the camera animate?
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>>256079823
Dude HoP's have taken the role of demoting since 2012. It's their job, as Head of Personnel. They are in charge of personnel. It's not the Captain's job to investigate people to see if they should be demoted, UNLESS it is a head.
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>>256078378
>Assistants all round up on a specific radio frequency
>They talk about putting shitcurity in their place and declare war at the start of the round
>They get all-access early in the round due to a suicide bombing of the HoP's office
Fast forward 20 minutes
>One of the earlier mentioned assistants rushes the brig with lasers, murders one officer, gets killed herself
>Two officers NON-LETHALLY raid their base in cargo and arrest them all, finding all-access IDs and laser weapons
Know what happens next after we finally get them all brigged and under control without killing anyone despite their resistance in an exciting game of cat-and-mouse where nobody gets abused?
>gunk
>round ends 5 minutes later as everyone loses everything
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>>256080835
It will
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>>256081374
>Dude HoP's have taken the role of demoting since 2012. It's their job, as Head of Personnel. They are in charge of personnel.
Nope, just because people do it doesn't make it right. Thankfully it doesn't matter because the communities that treat HoP as Captain 2.0 tend to not actually utilize the HoP in any meaningful manner. It's not the HoP's business to run any other departments or tell them how to run it, he should be organizing personnel and promoting/demoting based on what the other heads want in accordance with the need of the station though.

>UNLESS it is a head.
This conversation kind of started with someone saying HoP can demote heads which is fucking retarded.

>engineering staff is low but there is a CE
>see a random engineer running around early in the round
>demote him because he's not setting up an engine without ever speaking to the CE
Bad HoP, completely out of line and wasting time

>See there is only one engi and a CE
>contact CE, say you're going to hire more engineers
>if he doesn't object make radio announcement that the station needs more engineers and make it a priority job for when people want to change jobs but don't know what they want
Good HoP, improving efficiency.

On that note since service is actually your bitch and there are frequently too many botanists you can always just reassign them as you see fit (though this can have IC repercussions).
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haha just imagine getting stuck in perma while getting fucked every day
haha
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>>256082376
that sure is a wacky idea anon haha
i'm sure no one's written about something as wild and zany as that haha
you should
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>>256077365
Is that a fucking mommi cluwne?
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>>256082517
haha anon I wish I could write well haha
why don't you do it haha
God I want a sec bf
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>>256082871
god I wish I could write too
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so, which one of you went into the cm server and put potassium pill in everyone?
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>>256083802
:^)
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The most recent update has introduced a multiple per round CTD for me, and I previously would crash less than once per weekend. Might be tied to shift-click examining.
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I don't really get people who say sec is empty. Perhaps it is in burger hours, but I always have one buddy or two when I roll it.
There is also no shortage of sec players, although they vary in quality.
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>>256084408
I find most secbros to be pretty good and fun to play with
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>>256084408
Except 99% of sec is complete shit, and the station would operate better without them in most cases.
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>>256084229
in game update or byond update?
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give me a quick rundown on the chef
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>>256084408
>vary in quality
you mean vary in experience, simple fact is that the longer a seccy plays sec, the 'lower' quality they'll be, since after a time we all realize that the prominent shitters, deserve only a spacing, and if they're not activly shitting things up, they're plotting too
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>>256084483
>NOOO LET ME KEEP MY GOLDEN TICKET
>STOOPPPP I WANT TO SET THE AI TO HOGAN
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>>256084483
>FUCK SEC in the streets
>HELP SEC in the when it turns to shieeet
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>>256084483
agreed however the things people abstractly list here as shitsec are so poor that it balances out
which is unfortunate because they in effect sabotage legitimate complaints of security
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>>256084664
>AIIII LET ME OUT OF PRISON!!!!!!!!
>LAW TWOOOOO AI, BORG HELP!
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>>256084471
Sec is a very tribal dept.
To the point where I know almost ckeys that play it reguarily, and many of them played for months if not years
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>>256084408
>but I always have one buddy or two when I roll it
Sec is actually supposed to be one of the most populated departments if not the most populated department, having 2 or 3 people in sec basically means sec is worthless.
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>>256085078
>sec
>the most populated department
dios mio
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KC Hexton is my new housewife (male)
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>>256085078
two/three sec officers who communicate >>>>>>>>> full team uncoordinated
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>>256085195
god i wish that were me
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>>256085078
The dept suffers heavily from conservation of ninjutsu
Too many officers mean they will get in the way of each other

>>256084606
The most experienced sec players recognise the duality of the assistant and the officer
I for one welcome sort form of greytide during calm rounds if the other party isn't an ahelping dindu
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>>256085236
Nah, a retardgang of unorganized officers will catch anything set to arrest.
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>>256085279
It can be if you eat all of Sybils donuts like a lardass :^)
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>>256085438
noted
will do
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>>256085195
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>>256082871
>>256083097
Just fucking do it. Same as any other creative endeavor, literally the only way to get good at writing is to do it. Reading other stuff helps give you an idea of how decent/good writers do shit, but you'll never actually learn to write if you don't shit out a couple of abortions onto paper or whatever the fuck kids write with today.
Just do it. Fucking do it, don't sit around wishing you could write or wishing someone else would write it for you, DO IT.
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>>256085174
You're new to SS13 aren't you?

>>256085236
>two/three sec officers who communicate >>>>>>>>> full team uncoordinated
Not really, two or three officers can only be so many places. Ideally sec is shutting shit down before it happens and harassing suspicious people can be all it takes.

>>256085368
>Too many officers mean they will get in the way of each other
Not at all, you always want some people patrolling the bum fuck parts of the station where the antags usually lurk.
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>>256085593
You're new to SS13 aren't you?
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>>256085593
>Not at all, you always want some people patrolling the bum fuck parts of the station where the antags usually lurk.

I have caught around 75% of my antag arrests from wandering maint with my flashlights off
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>>256085593
You cannot really defeat revs, cult, or a competent antag without a tiny bit of communication
t. Has played sec consistently for 2 years now
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>>256085592
but anon english is not my main language
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>>256085721
you really cannot defeat revs or cult desu
it always turns into a shit hunt and we always end up killing all the wrong people
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>>256085780
Do it anyways. If you really want to write, you'll do it regardless.
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>>256085836
this is true
every round i remember where we actually "stomped out" the cult for a change there's always at least 1 random innocent who got beheaded
the price of freedom(tm) i guess
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>>256085780
>not being better at writing than all your peers and most of those you meet online despite being an ESL
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didn't know MRflarg was an ERPer.
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>>256085658
Exactly my point, danger deep maint sec is how you truly find crime
>people forget there was a time when sec had no maint access

>>256085721
2 years isn't long and while yes you need communication but having more boots on the ground and slightly less coms beats 2 officers with good coms trying to stop the horde.

>>256085836
>it always turns into a shit hunt and we always end up killing all the wrong people
9 times out of 10 when I kill someone who isn't cult or rev during a cult or rev round it's because they're committing crimes and acting like complete shitters anyways.
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>>256086204
>9 times out of 10 when I kill someone who isn't cult or rev during a cult or rev round it's because they're committing crimes and acting like complete shitters anyways.
also true
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>>256085868
>>256086007
okay thanks for encouraging me
time to write my dom sec bf fantasy
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>>256085195
>ID stolen while helping out with perpetrators in Sec
>Locked in room, starving, no officers around
>Oh hey, donuts
And that's how I got strongarmed into cooking a romantic dinner for a forceful femHoS, consisted entirely of chicken fried bear steak
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>>256086007
Not him, but the main issue for me is that while I have plenty of material to draw inspiration from in my native tongue, most of my English readings are technical papers or conversations
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>>256087207
I've never read a proper romance in my whole damned life, be it native or foreign; forced or willing, and yet I've managed to capture with my writings. All you need is a vivid imagination and a need to bleed your heart out.
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>>256087207
Just write. None of us have professional level quality, it's more of the "idea" and storyline that people look for, especially when writing meme shit like this.
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this is a very comfy round
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>>255992842
>hacking into CE's office at roundstart when they're absent is required to set up most power sources.
Like what?
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>>256088795
>the shard for the SME (if it isn't already there on some maps)
>the plasma cans to fill cans if you don't want to go into atmos and fill a new canister up
It's a little faster, and you kinda need the shard for shard memes if you don't want to depend on another department.
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>>256088978
>It's a little faster
oh okay so not really required then
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>>256077365
Do a chaplain borg!
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>>256088795
Anything that involves EVA - solars, singulo, shard. Granted, that's only on Box, because someone decided that the engineering hardsuits belong in the secure storage. The shard itself is also in there.
Now, atmos suits are available without going through hoops but those belong to atmos and immediately make you look gay.
To be honest, this is more of a worst map in rotation problem than engineering problem in general.
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mages are cancer even not murderboning
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>>256089214
Now, I could easily sprite a chappie borg but what would it do that wasnt omega powergay?
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>>256089634
I actually don't particularly love murder boning mages but mages have loads of fun gimmicks they can run. I don't even think mages should get jecties as it would encourage everyone to actually play with fun shit instead of just following a guide.

Spawn guns making random people antags was completely retarded though.
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Found on /ss13 at your world of text.
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>>256090153
PLEASE STOP I WANT TO BE MINDBROKEN BY THE HOS SO BAD
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>>256089720
Give it a holy water dispenser and incense burner, Bible dispenser, wafer dispenser and coffin carrier.
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>>256090738

Ehhh
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>>256089896
Wizard is good for gunking, I usually take staff of change and die to terminal unrobustness but afterwards someone is bound to take the staff and gunk the round ever more with it
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>>256091087
Not if Sonix has his say
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>>256091245
i hate that mentality in general
>"everything about [gunker antag] is fine, the gunk is how he antagonizes!"
>"but WOAH NELLY don't pick up that [gunker item], that's the real problem here."
that really specific vampire-esque antagonist design of "if i can't have fun neither can you, fuk u" which is dumb because as my strawman says, the aftermath gunk IS part of the fun
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>>256091421
>I have fun removing your ability to have fun
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The Emergency Shuttle has docked with the station.
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>>256091494
Not him but staff of change isn't even real gunking, it's just straight fun.
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>>256091494
that's how i see those changes, yeah
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Staff of Gunk simply shouldn't exist.
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>>256091797
its pretty fun, it just needs a reset button. or at least to be able to let science build a thingy that can reset you
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>two headmins
>both expecting the other to cover for them
>this leads to nothing being done

just remove foster, they're not here anyway
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Rate my gimmick:
>Buy esword and tricky pen
>Get pacid from Chemistry
>Tricky pen target
>behead
>Melt head
>Peacefully go after my job for the next few hours
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Give me ideas for smut.
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>tfw the sec officer i tried so hard to save was a syndi
i feel like a fool
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>>256091909
sec
my static
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>>256091909
/vg/station gets FUCKED RAW by entropy & collective apathy [NSFW]
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>>256091909
we need a secc fic
starting the hos
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>>256091946
there was a hidden reward i suppose if you got to the corpse looting phase
do kids still like emags these days? you can use it on the cloner to change people's name & race to whatever you want, 100% safe
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>>256091909
>>256092048

hos "breaks in" the new security cadet
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>>256091881
>Not buying an emag and making a syndieborg slaved to you to gunk the round with
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>>256092304
Am awfully prudish but I wanted to make a fic in which the warden initiates a new recruit and ends up giving him head and buttfucking him
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>>256092429
needs more hos
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why do I want to get fucked by sec so much
I'm straight I swear
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>>256092429
A short involving Jack Dale, a borer, and a female slime xenobiologist
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>>256092547
is this why greys shit up so much? all for the gangbang fantasies
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>>256092717
God yes i just want to go to jail and get gangbanged
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>>256091797
Wizards sole purpose in life is to gunk rounds, it's the entire reason they exist.
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>>256054467
Why did I think effort posting would harvest a single you lmao
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>>256092809
>not playing friendly wiz to antagonize observers and sec alike

Their rage fuels me.
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>>256093390
>intellectual effortposts ignored while everyone just posts about how they want to have sex with a [ckey] vox hos that puts them in bondage while [staticname] [verb]
sad!
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>>256094343
musky vox sex! Talonjobs!
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>be on BD
>see girl walking by
>say hi we pass by each other
>head back same direction
>see previous girl cuffed by someone screaming for help
>Shoot the slaver
>Free the lady, she starts thanking me
>Head off and instantly killed by nothing
>BWOINK.ogg
>"hey why did you kill that guy for no reason
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What does window flashing do, and should I enable it?



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