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Pasta of the old OP Edition

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/22990080/mark-your-calendars-wow-classic-launch-and-testing-schedule

>What is WoW Classic
Official Blizzard servers for WoW 1.12 aka Vanilla

>Content Release Plan
>Phase 1 (Classic Launch)
Molten Core
Onyxia
Maraudon

>Phase 2
Dire Maul
Azuregos
Kazzak

>Phase 3
Blackwing Lair
Darkmoon Faire
Darkmoon deck drops begin

>Phase 4
Zul’Gurub
Green Dragons

>Phase 5
Ahn’Qiraj War Effort begins
Ahn’Qiraj raids open when the war effort dictates
Dungeon loot reconfiguration: Tier 0.5 Dungeon gear, Relics, drop rates and location changes

>Phase 6
Naxxramas
Scourge Invasion

>Discord
https://discord.gg/4A5VpS7

>What servers will /wowcg/ guilds be on?Guilds?
<Big Guys> @ Classic PvP (Alliance) EU
discord.me/bigguys
<No Fun Allowed> @ PvE (Horde) US
mumble server coming soon

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First for Naxx wasn't hard and you're a retard if you disagree
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>>253428924
Second for fuck trannies
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>want to play rogue
>dont want to level poisons
life is suffering
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>>253429292
that's fucking SOUL OVERLOAD you cunt
get the fuck out of my class
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>>253428924
easiest raid in wrath desu
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>classic naxx is so easy that I only need 15 addons, 30 youtube videos and tutorial mode naxx in wr*th to clear it in retail!
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Are trannies really a problem encountered a lot or is it just overblown boogiemen?
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>>253429463
it's literally a tranny-borne meme
big guys doesnt have a single tranny in the guild, nor does NFA, the only people that complain about "trannies" are the trannies themselves, because they want everyone to pay attention to them
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>>253429446
>using resouces at your disposal is bad
WAAC
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>>253429292
>don't want to level poisons
stay the fuck away from my class nigger
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>>253429627
reddit
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Speaking of rogues, what were some good ways to level up lockpicking?
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>>253429589
No I mean just discord in general. People talk about "discord trannies" but I can't think of even one.
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>>253429463
Trannies love to infest /vg/ private server guilds, time will tell if classic is different
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FUCK HOW THE FUCK AM I MEANT TO PICK A CLASS
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Any EU non streamers gotten an invite?
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>>253429820
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vrEljMfXYo
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>>253429446
>no argument
only reason Naxx was cleared by 24 guilds worldwide after 6 months was that people were burned out from Classic waiting for BC
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>>253429802
How would you even know if your guild has one? Not like I ask personal shit about guild members.
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>>253429781
well, if you join a tranny discord server, sure it'll have trannies in it
but if you join a /vg/ approved guild discord, it's not gonna have trannies, it's gonna have /vg/ approved players
i joined big guys discord today and they even have a verified member status, to prove youre not a woman or tranny, its pretty based
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>asmon logs into
>loyal ant follower presents him with shoulders
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>>253429957
Trannies love to make their presence known, also if they use mics you can pick out a tranny instantly by their sickening voice
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>>253429820
Spin the fucking wheel, you idiot.
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>>253429820
Warrior
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>>253429820
ask >>253429950
he obviously watched all Classic™ videos on youtube so that makes him a Classic™ expert
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>>253429967
>well, if you join a tranny discord server
HOW WOULD YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT ONE IS

>>253430069
>also if they use mics you can pick out a tranny instantly by their sickening voice
Why is anyone using a mic if they aren't currently raiding?
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>>253429926
Ok this order rolling
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getting corpse camped? no worries just go to another layer. Banding together with allies to defeat enemies is sooooo last decade.
quest npc dead? just go to another layer!
want to escalate a skirmish or save a zone getting pillaged? Don't even try to bring a couple of raids in to help they'll just get stuffed on another layer
someone kited a dangerously strong mob to your area or let an infernal loose? just hop on over to another layer!
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>>253429802
trannies only play private servers because it's free
trannies dont work and because of that theyre theyre poorer than even the poorest pedro spicniggers selling oranges by the side of the road in texas

they wont be able to afford the $15 a month for classic cause they have to spend it on their trannymeds
trannys love to play finalfantasy becuase the sub is like $5 a month if youre only playing 1 character, but ask them to log into another char and they pretend they have to do "something" soon so theres no point them changing char

>>253429957
as anon replying to you already said, theyre make themselves known
theyre attentionhungry retards, but if you starve them of attention by ignoring the, or kicking them, they'll go away almost instantly
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>>253429820
>>253429926
Do a process of what is it you want to do.
>>Do I like to support? To be front up in battle? To make things explode or bleed?
>>Do I want to do it from a close or a far distance?
>>Do I enjoy processes of preparation? Do I enjoy just walking up and killing shit?
>>Do i want to be useless? In which case play tank paladin

Jokes aside, it all comes down to process of elimination and accounting to all the stuff you'd enjoy doing.
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So what are you guys doing RIGHT NOW?
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>>253430281
you have no proof
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>>253430373
Picking herbs in AV because we're in a turtle
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>wanna play orc warrior
>discord bros wanna play alliance
>humans are fucking LAME and if i pick any other warrior race i'll be forced to play with edgemasters

fuck this shit
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>>253430514
bros before ho(rde)s anon
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>>253430416
dont worry im sure theyll turn it off for you when the server pop tanks because blizzard set it up to fail on purpose :)
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>>253430514
>humans are fucking LAME
What's more important? Being cool or having a lower hit cap?
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FUCK YES Asmongold is streaming and mom bought home burger king!
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>>253430514
WRENCH!
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>>253430514
Same shit here, want to be a glorious Troll Warrior, but in my group of 20 people, fucking 15 wants to go Alliance, AND play on a PvE server aswell.
Just fucking why.
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>>253430416
No proof of layers working as they said they will work? Really makes you ponder
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>>253430731
>Just fucking why.
Because they know what awaits them in lakeshire if they play pvp
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>>253430679
and he just admitted it's his first time playing vanilla
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>>253429820
You will melt faces as a Shadow Priest
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>>253430514
>Minmaxing vanilla pve content
lmao
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>>253430801
>Plays a game where Factions matter, and the war between them is real
>Lmao let's play on a server where it doesn't fucking matter
I don't get it.
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>>253430920
Because permagank isn't fun
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>>253430895
but no dispersion
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>have to clear MC to get Tier 1 gear to do BWL to get tier 2 to do AQ40 to get Tier 3 to even consider stepping a foot inside the sacred godlike instance that is Naxx
Yall thought TBC attunement was hard?
Welcome to Vanilla entitled millennial zoomer babbbbyyys
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>>253430859
I mean it was obvious, of course he'll talk shit during the stream and keep up his act and pretend to be the greatest and all, but surely you're not bothered by that right?
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>>253430920
>bitch about constant ganking on a pvp server
>"hey pal that's what you get for playing on a pvp server, you know what you signed up for"
>play on a pve server
>"don't be a little bitch, play on pvp"
You can't win if you don't like wpvp
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>>253431021
Roll Horde, no undead locks to racial out of your fear
Use engineering
Use stun procs from low ranked SWP
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>>253430416
"However, unlike sharding once in a layer, players won't leave this layer in favor of a better one whenever they move or change zones, removing the awkward phasing present in retail. The only way to change a layer will be to enter a group, which will have all players from the group in the same layer."

>The only way to change a layer will be to enter a group
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>>253430859
Didn't he start in TBC?

>>253430984
There won't be many extremely high level players to gank you though.
Everybody will be busy focusing on leveling.
The added PvP whenever you meet the opposing faction is just a nice extra thing.

>>253431172
I just don't get why they even bother playing a game, that's literally based around shit like that then.
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>>253430859
So why do people watch this guy? I'm not exactly familiar with this guy, but he looks and sounds like one severe case of autism on the wrong side.
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>>253430984
I have played on a PvP server for 10 years and I've literally never been "permaganked". Yes I've died again and again on contested areas like STV but that's just world-pvp, you kill some you die some and you gather your pals and get them twice as hard

What the fuck are you faggots doing so that people just sit on top of you and kill you as soon as you spawn?
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>>253431297
Actually they said you can also do it by logging out
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mark kern streaming, talking about classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeXuGkzAMZg
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>>253431083
and now he switched back to "i remember this shit from back in the day". but yea let's pretend he didn't admit this is his first time playing vanilla just 5 mins ago
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>>253431079
Gear progression isn't attunement you fucking retard
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>>253431345
I don't know, ask the chinese guy that camped someone for like 30 hours straight
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what if I have no one to level with?
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I've been doing pservers in prep for a basic feeling of what vanilla will be like, having never really done it. (TBC-Cata, MoP 5.4 for like a month)

I haven't really hammered down what sort of class I want to play in the proper game, just a few goals for it
>clear all the raids and dungeons
>if not bang the gong myself, then be part of the scepter chain all the way to the end
>get one of the legendaries

I've been playing Warrior, but I haven't done Deadmines yet to see if I'd be a decent tank, is tank the best way forward for those goals I want to achieve? I guess Mage could get Aetish though...
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>>253431409
Are you fucking dense? It's an act, are you this stupid? He has literally said in his videos that he puts up the elitist act on stream because it's fun. Are you legit autistic or why is this hard for you to grasp?
>b-but he LIED! HE JUST ADMITTED IT WTF!
yeah what an idiot go donate to him and tell him about it
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What are the most laid-back dps classes for Classic?
Would guessing hunter be right? They're easy to farm gold with, have little competition with drops and don't scale very well anyway meaning they have somewhat low gear dependance, and on most bosses they supposedly go AFK and auto shoot?
I don't mind kiting so it has no impact on the laidbackness.
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>>253431409
Some quests were literally the exact same in Vanilla, as they were in TBC.
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mfw going to roll UD mage and kill people at Menethil Harbor
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>>253431345
Honestly I'd feel like I won if someone took time out of their lifes to actively gank me specifically with a high level toon after I manage to kill someone in those areas like STV.

Sure, I'll just do my quest bit by bit, and this fag will waste time off his life on me.
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>>253431172
>not liking wpvp
what's the fucking point then?
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>>253431530
you'll find people. Alternatively, play a hunter

>>253431563
Not him but it's not about that, it's that some people can't stand anyone they see as "inauthentic". These people tend to hate actors too for pretending to be something they're not.
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>>253431568
>dealing with the dogshit pet AI
>laid back
Mage is the real chill class. Teleports, good at PvP, good at PvE, good at farming, easy to find a group with
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>>253431424
It shows you learned your class, learned mechanics, coordination, rotations, priorities, pooling resources, practicing strategies with 39 other players, can min/max, care about being good.
Its a way to keep the turds out.
Seems we may have found a zoomer entitled millennial nu wow babby already
Heh
*Sips monster*
See you in the PvP server kiddo
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>>253431568
They're all "laid back", nothing requires brainpower in vanilla
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>>253431563
>implying i usually watch him
just waiting to see how many times he wipes in deadmines
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>>253431316
>>253431689
Not everything in WoW is pvp. If it was, dishonorable kills never would've become a thing and you'd be able to loot players for their gear when you kill them.
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>>253431530
discord.me/bigguys
no trannies
no women
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>>253431738
>you'll find people
I hope so, I was a mediocre 2.1k rated player in wrath/cata when I stopped but I am very bad at the whole social thing
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>>253431738
>some people can't stand anyone they see as "inauthentic". These people tend to hate actors too for pretending to be something they're not.
Sounds like textbook autism to me
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>>253431810
You don't need any of that shit for PvE.

Can pretend to be a boomer all you like, but you clearly weren't around to experience 40 mans that dragged 20+ people through content very easily despite them barely taking part.
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>>253431983
Actually actors were one of the most publicly hated professions in the past for this exact reason, because God said don't lie about what you are.
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>>253431536
>>I've been doing pservers in prep for a basic feeling of what vanilla will be like
Prepare for something slower then. Private Servers typically had a lot of resistances wrong, since they had to guess what the values were.

>>just a few goals for it
>>clear all the raids
That's a cute joke. Honestly, don't aim for completing AQ40 and Naxx, unless if you're in a dedicated Raid Guild.

>>get one of the legendaries
I hope you're up for farming for months to no end.
Not only do everybody reserve rights on these items, but they are extremely rare.

>>I've been playing Warrior, but I haven't done Deadmines yet to see if I'd be a decent tank, is tank the best way forward for those goals I want to achieve?
Warriors are the slowest thing to level with, and it'll feel like a struggle.
You obviously end up being one of the strongest Classes of the game, but only at endgame.

Warlocks are honestly the easiest to level with:
- Dedicated pet tank
- Incredible DPS
- Self-sustain, with Lifetap and Life Drain

>>253431880
WPvP is one of the reasons to play WoW over the other MMORPGs though, the fuck are you on about?
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>>253432037
>Very Easily
Dear god you have never done AQ40 have you
Oh my dear sweet summer child
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>>253432234
>WPvP is one of the reasons to play WoW over the other MMORPGs though
But it's not the only reason to play the game, and more to my point it's not what the game is entirely centered around. If there was, no griefing would be against TOS.
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>>253428924
this tbqh
hell, it was the raid that spawned the literal definition of Patchwerk boss
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>>253432164
>because God said don't lie about what you are.
But if you always pretend to be something you're not, you're still authentic because pretending to be something you're not is authentic to you. That is you; if you didn't pretend you wouldn't be authentic. What the fuck was god's problem?
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>>253432306
Yes. If you think AQ40 is difficult you may actually have brain damage.
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>>253432037
>but you clearly weren't around to experience 40 mans that dragged 20+ people through content very easily despite them barely taking part
You just confirmed you weren't around for the challenging raids yourself, you idiot.

>>253432363
>Unironically playing on a PvE server
Not sure what to tell you, anon.
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>>253432506
He works in mysterious ways
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Reminder that players of every other MMO laughed at WoW and considered it a babby game in 2005, just like FPS veterans laugh at Fortnite right now.
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>>253432514
>Idiots who pretends they played in the Vanilla days
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Is there a class that could join later tier raids in preraid BiS?
I mean, what are the least geardependant classes?
Maybe hunter since their dps only marginally increases with gear, and they mainly do gimmicky things like Tranq and kiting?
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>>253432549
>Not sure what to tell you, anon.
Oh I'm going to play on a pvp server, I'm just playing devil's advocate in all of this.
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>>253432363
>people actually play wow because of ''''world'''' pvp
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

only thing that's even remotely fun pvp-wise in the original game was alterac valley, everything else was gaynigger-tier. Feel free to disagree even though you're wrong
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>>253432514
YIKES
Cata baby detected
OOF
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>>253432603
well yeah because new thing bad
that is never not the case
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>>253431330
because he's the only toxic wow streamer
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>>253432702
Hunter, because it's not like you need good gear to remove enrage
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>>253432549
>the challenging raids
There weren't any. Not by modern standards, at least.
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>>253432746
>Vanilla 1.2
>Battlegrounds
Are you okay in your head?
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>>253432771
WoW was unironically the casual mmo of its time. You didn't even lose exp when you died.
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>plan on making the same class/race combo with the same name as I had on my main back in the day, even have a few old screenshots to make the same physical appearance as well
>all in the hopes of meeting some of my former guildmates and friends from back then.

I realize this is probably hopeless and most likely they are all normies with no idea classic wow is even a thing, nor would they play it if they did but I want to believe.
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>>253431738
he's like a fucking politician
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>>253432928
>Not by modern standards, at least
I didn't know adding a fuckton of mechanics on a Boss, which is easy to play around, since it warns you when it happens, was considered hard.

Raiding back then was way harder, than whatever the fuck you have now.
You were rarely geared for the content, and one bad pull when a specific patrol was around, would literally wipe a 40man raid.
Hell, 1 person fucking up on specific Bosses, could wipe the entire 40man raid.

This is probably because Blizzard seriously overtuned specific content, making sure the players would play for longer periods of time.
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>>253432234
>I hope you're up for farming for months to no end.
I kind of like farming. Running around to grind stuff with a podcast on is kind of relaxing.
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>>253433172
Anon they are all married with children and families.
You never found someone to share your life with and move on from this children's dragon game?
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>>253433172
We can dream of home again, anon. There is nothing wrong with that.
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>>253433269
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>>253433269
>I have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about
good to see the goggles are on full power
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>>253433183
>he's like the thing everyone but other politicians hate
Not the best comparison
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>>253433305
Not him but that hit pretty hard
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>>253433305

even if one of them did contact me, how could I tell them I'm a 29 year old neet still playing the same game all day as I did when I was 15?
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>>253432702
>>253432702
>>253432702
>>253432702
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>Going all in on kino comfy casual leveling and herb / alch

>Making my own business and going to sell overpriced flasks on the AH for autists insisting on raiding

High IQ players know end game is truly all about gold and making it rich.
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>>253432702
Warrior
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>>253433710
kek obviously not
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>>253433538
>Wow man I could never find the time to play again with Tom starting college in the fall and my Wife wanting me to build that addition onto the porch in the back. We like to hold hands and sit together and talk about growing old together. So you still play the same old game we played 15 years ago? You...you never got married and had children? I guess you must have a lot of free time...
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>>253433664
comfy is just another word for boring
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>>253433285
Farming is alright, but raid farming could be literally masochistic, if you were aiming for the Legendary items.
Remember, there were less items dropped back then, for fucking 40 people.
Chances were, there were 5-8 other people who also want that specific item.

Just telling you, if you don't have a dedicated Raid Guild, who is okay with you taking the item, that pretty much everybody else who can use it aswell, you're in for a painful experience.

It's also insanely expensive to do it in the first place.

>>253432702
>>253433653
Unironically Huntards.
Don't listen to this retard >>253433710
Warriors are insanely gear dependant.
Only exception, is if you're Horde, where Windfury will make you shit out damage, even with mediocore gear.
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>>253433664
>casual leveling
>selling flasks to autists
autists are 60 at least a month before you and have every single black lotus spot under surveillance, all with 5 bank alts filled with herbs. They will dominate your shitty market and you will keep farming them even more herbs like the peasant you are
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>>253432702
Why would you get preraid BiS then not fucking raid
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>>253433838
Imagine being this uncultured.
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>>253433921
Not him but I made all my money just picking mountain silversage in AV and selling stacks of that.
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how can day 1 priests even level?

your big dick DPS wand(greater magic was it?) wont be available till people DE some shit from VC/WC.
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>>253433923
cant wait for classic honestly bros
it's gonna be amazing
simply by having a subcost buying, it's gonna fix so many problems

No Chinks
No Russians
No Mexicans
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>>253433860
>Warriors are insanely gear dependant
that's why I'm going to level a Rogue to 60 first so I can bankroll a Warrior
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>>253434032
slowly
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>>253433837

they were around my age at the time, so their kids would be under 10 probably. That's why I'm saying they probably won't have time nor the desire to play wow again. or they won't even remember me
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>>253434032
get the true classic experience and group up with a warrior.
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>>253433923
for the same reason people on retail grind ilev then not raid
because seeing number go higher causes brain to make happy juice
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>>253434032
Just get a warrior slave boy to level with
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>>253434032
you can DE cheap tailor dresses for wands
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>>253433923
Because it seems more lucrative to join a raiding guild that actually tries, to guarantee clearing them instead of joining a shitty one and wiping in MC for weeks
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>Farming cloth
>Tailoring
>Crafting Bags
>Players going to you and using a full set of bags with your name as the go to bag crafter on your server
>Players wearing purple shirts you crafted with your name on them
Why aren't you planning on being a tailor to start with? Don't tell me you like only have a couple of 4 and 6 slot bags?
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>>253433921
>Implying I won't be in stealth
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>>253434318
because after a couple days all the bags on AH will be barely above vendor price
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>>253433921
>Phases to shard 17 that is low pop and farms a ton of black lotus
*Phase Dabs on your Black lotus mafia*
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>>253434270
Try reading the post you're responding to again and really engage those brain cells this time
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>>253434064
>Want to level a character to bankroll a Warrior
>Picks a fucking Rogue, and not Warlock/Mage
You sure are a weird one.

>>253434032
You'll only struggle until 24 I believe it was, after that you got decent damage.
Thankfully, everybody will want to be your bitch, just because you can heal.

>>253434270
>Wiping MC for weeks
Even bad Guilds won't take that long for MC, it's honestly not that hard.

Only Raids you should be cautious about with a Guild, are AQ40 and Naxx.

>>253434318
Currently stuck with 2 choices:
>Warrior (Arms/Fury for leveling, Prot endgame) with Herbalism and Alchemy
I still remember how many buff elixirs I had to buy, and I'm fucking done.

>Priest, with Tailoring and Herbalism
Obviously, Herbalism is just there to sell them to Alchemists, or bank them for Guildmembers who happen to be an Alchemist.
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>>253434442
that's really clever I'm sure the lotus mafia never thought of that...
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How much inferior is picking humans for a mage? I just can't bring myself to put hundreds of hours into a gnome character.
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>>253434518
Obviously I meant join later. I'd rather get other classes to 60 than wipe with shitty guilds, and then just join a good guild that happen to need the class disregarding gear.
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>>253434626
JUST PICK WHAT LOOKS BEST YOU DUMB NIGGER
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>>253434548
>Thankfully, everybody will want to be your bitch, just because you can heal.
Classic probably won't have priest dicksucking syndrome because of the influx of people that have no fucking clue how vanilla is like and how horrifically imbalanced it is
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what Class do I go for Classic?
I can't decide between Mage, Rogue and Hunter
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>>253434626
Perception's a good job m8
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>>253434626
5% more int ends up being like +20 int in full endgame BiS, which is like 100 mana and 0,33% spellcrit....
15 engineering lets your mechanical pet be level 63, which can be sorta neat
Escape Artist is only good on warrior and rogue
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>>253434764
>I can't decide
t. everyone
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>>253434764
Mage
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Rolling N.elf shadowpriest just for shadowmeld + mindcontrol combo
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>>253434764
Here I'll roll for you
0-2 mage
3-5 rogue
6-8 hunter

9 wildcard druid
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>>253434626
>Losing out on 5% int, which increases casters crit chance, and mana pool
Really makes you think.

But really.. Min/Max'ing is not worth it, unless if you're in a speedrun Raid Guild.
Just pick whatever you like the most.

Also, Human have increased reputation obtained, which can come in handy, and Perception is honestly good.

>>253434763
>Watching a few streamers play it
>People are legitimately dying non-stop to Lv 6-12 content
>1 fucker on Soda's stream was Lv 6 for an entire hour, dying over and over again
I can't wait for people to complain about the game being too slow and way too hard.

>>253434764
Mage if you want to farm fast.
Rogue if you like dicking people in STV.
Huntards if your IQ is below 4.

>>253435040
Just admit you're doing it for the Female Elf model.
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>>253434916
>snare trinket is not useful on the glass cannon class
do you have a single fact to back that up?
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>>253435040
kino my dude sneed
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From 1 - loser to 10 - cuck, how much of a failure are Paladin players?
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>>253435239
1.12 Paladins are broken af senpai
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>>253434764
Funny, those are my main three picks as well. Probably going hunter first to get a bit of a head start then probably roll a mage or rogue after.
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>>253435239
paladin players are basic bitches,it's the most boring class
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>>253435656
playing an overpowered class is boring
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>>253435656
Not really much in it, most vanilla classes are very, very boring to play outside of PvP.
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>>253435239
>Want to become a holy knight
>Want to purge the undead scurge
>Picks a boring afk auto attacking class
Biggest letdown of the Classes, still to this date. It's so fucking boring to play.
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How were Warriors for DPS in 1.12?
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>>253435849
hybrid classes were made for casuals, so of course the skill ceiling is lower
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>>253435239
Amazing healers
Horrific raid DPS
Great in BG's and group world PvP (as healers)
Tank has no taunt, so basically no you wont be tanking without a taunt
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>>253435814
tanking is very fun,fuck are you talking about,and some classes/specs have very fun rotations
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>>253435875
best DPS class
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>You're level 31 walking from Wetlands and finally arrive to the Arathi bridge, only to see this in your path

What do?
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>asmongold playing classic over 60k viewers
>has more that ninja
we won.
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>>253436004
Some horse?
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>>253435936
a taunt wouldn't give you threat with 0 damage output, that's not how tanking works. druids have taunt and they aren't viable either because they can't get def capped without shield block
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>>253435239
Im going as a shockadin
https://classicdb.ch/?talent#sExu0xotZVf0tr
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>>253430281
They said they'll be switching the layers off in phase two. Still sucks.
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>>253435124
Blink removes snares and slows already right?
Snares hardly do anything to ranged classes. What are you supposed to use it on? Running sideways instead of casting?

EA is great as a rogue or warrior because you need to catch up. As ranged it does nothing. Warlocks already have no mobility, but mages have multiple CCs and blink.
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>>253435959
Sure they do, champ
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>>253436069
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>>253436265
based moonmoon
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>>253435959
>f u n
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>>253435121
Hunter in vanilla is one of the more difficult classes, not to mention that it's easy for them to fuck up entire raids with small mistakes. It's the one class where it's clearly visible if you suck or if you're great.
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>>253435875
Insanely slow to level one.
Pathetic damage, if you don't have a high dps weapon, and I'm talking a reall good one.
But the second you reach endgame.. You're unironically a giant powerhouse, and have been confirmed by all to be the top of the DPS foodchain.

>>253436159
Is this the famous PvP build that I heard so much about back in Vanilla?
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>>253436004
Wonder why they don't have their Anathema with a +spell power enchant on it?
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>>253436229
baka you can't just go around popping blink for anything you need it to not die in stuns
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>>253436004
only to see a level 40 shadowpriest in post-Cata Org?
I'd be confused to shit
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>>253436151
Taunt will save your healers when they pull agro or when the DPS pulls the boss because you don't have a Thunderfury yet.
You will never tank as a Pally. Learn to heal or don't bother rolling a Pally.
End of.
No guild, literally no guild aside from being the GM and leading the raids will ever take a Pally tank or a pally ret.
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>>253436265
nobody cares about Classic, people just like to watch a train wreck live, everyone knows it's going to be dead in 2 weeks
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>>253436159
You're a fucking retard, healing items don't give spell damage so good luck collecting any gear ever
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>>253436265
>he follows these streamers
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>>253436559
>already down to half the views we originally had
fuck fuck fuck bros this is our last chance we can't mess it up
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>>253436398
Yes, shockadin build can both pvp and heal in raids, it's not one of those specs you can fraps record and add some mallcore 2000's metal to but the survivability and ability to hold your own is good
>>253436595
Not looking for spell damage, the build is still primarily for healing
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>>253436069
I don't know how popular he was before, but thousands of WoW views are people being excited about new game.
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>>253436356
There's literally a reason to the class getting the nickname; "HUNTARD" dear anon.
It was insanely hard to fuck up on a Hunter.
All you had to do? Toggle Taunt off from Pet and not let it pull like a fucking retard. There was really not much asked from you.

>>253436595
Weren't there a few that gave both Spell Dmg and Healing Done though?
Might be my TBC showing, but I swear a few items had both.

>>253436761
How good is Holy Shock actually? Never seen anyone use it.
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>>253436828
>How good is Holy Shock
It actually sucks, but if you use divine favor with it on a target that has seal of the crusader you could deal a decent burst of damage. But compared to other burst damage it really isnt anything special
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>>253436765
He's consistent on 20k viewers the second he turns on his stream.
He's probably one of the few streamers keeping WoW relevant on the platform.
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>>253436159
looks good
here I made some improvement
https://classicdb.ch/?talent#sE0uMGZZxrxtMcV
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>>253436828
Items that gave spell damage also gave healing, but healing items didn't give any spell damage. In 2.1 I believe (or 2.4, during TBC either way) they changed it so healing items gave 30% of the healing in spell damage
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>>253437019
Huh, so that's how it worked, thanks for clearing that up.

>>253437125
>People unironically watch TipsOut
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>>253436265
To be fair, asmon already got 20-30k per stream anyways playing BFA, and twitch is a toxic cesspit where the rich get richer. No one goes into wow section and watches the shitty low viewer count streamers, they only pick the highest which is why when soda and asmon are on they are both at 50-60k and the next highest stream is only 5k, then 2k, then 1k, then 400, etc.
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>>253436828
Uh, yeah, "huntards" are the retarded noob hunter players, the actual retards that cause wipes and steal every drop.
It's insanely easy to fuck up. One wrong click can cause it. Not controlling your pet is a common one. Failing to use your traps right. Failing to kite.
A good hunter, a non-huntard, will literally simply be one that doesn't fuck up their one job. This makes them a GOOD hunter. One that stands out. Because the majority of hunters constantly do all those fuck-ups, because they're terrible players. A terrible hunter is a detriment, a power 1/10. Good would be like a 4, and a skilled hunter that goes out of their way to do well coupd probably reach power 8/10.

Meanwhile a terrible rogue is still power 6/10, at 1 in actual power skill. It takes less than half as much to master a rogue.
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Is there any streamers in the beta that aren't painful to watch?
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>>253437249
>nobody watches BFA streams for the ``content''
and that's a good thing
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>>253437194
I really hope there is a nerd making a highlight video of the world first WC run last night
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>>253437194
What's wrong with him? He had a good voice last time I checked his stream.
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>>253437386
suck to much dick at Blizzard convention :DD
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>>253437456
fug
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>>253437334
Didn't Soda literally lose his shit over how he had to deal with TipsOut attempting to be funny?

>>253437386
His behavior really.
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>>253437386
Whats wrong with the catatard that churns out clickbait and spends 20+ minutes lost in Wailing Caverns? A lot.
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>>253437334
what are the highlights?
him failing the jump 7 times and chance tanking the boss while they waited for that fat retard to find the instance entrance again?
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>>253437386
>>253437519
>>253437561
https://clips.twitch.tv/SeductiveBenevolentPepperoniKevinTurtle
>>253421003
>>253424430
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>>253437540
Try an hour.
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>>253437125
Tips is down to 2.3k viewers
How is he going to pay his rent bros?
This is horrible!
We need to give him our money so he can stay home and play video games and not work
Vote for Bernie and match me for donations to Tips
Hammers Up Boys!
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/ourguy/ tips falling down and getting lost is funny but tanking the last boss of WC at level 18 on a Warrior isn't viable and not actually his fault
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>>253437808
He pulled with the healer at half mana
He pulled by charging and getting out of range of the healer
Didn't use shield block at all to stop the big hits
Was he even in defensive stance?
His chest armor was red
Destroyed the good cloak drop he had just got to do a "meme" and laughed about it
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>>253437540
>20+ minutes lost in WC
They were literally stuck in that shithole, for 1hour+, because one dude couldn't read a bloody map, or jump down, on a fucking platform.

It actually shows, how retarded he is.
He kept attempting to pull, while the healer had low mana, and nobody were ready.
Refused to repair his gear, and took resurrect sickness and kept people waiting on his fatass.

He's literally doing it, in an attempt to be ecks dee funny.
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Did Tips get exposed yesterday? Didn’t see his stream
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Is duo leveling really faster?

i watched asmongold and he seems to be doing it. But quests aren't shared, so wouldnt it be a shit experience in general?
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>>253437808
>/ourguy/ tips falling down and getting lost is funny
trying this hard to be funny is never funny
>o no i fell xD
>wouldn't it be hilarious if I was retarded again?
>O NO I FELL AGAIN XD
>guyyyyyys I'm lost ROFL
>I'll just pull while people aren't ready for le epic chaotic situation
fuck that dude
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>>253437967
Vanilla it was often better to duo, since content was harder for a single person in the early stages of the game.
You can share your quests with your party members.

It's perfectly viable, but the first 10 levels will feel hard.

>>253438117
>Let's not repair gear, and take res sickness, to make them endure this even more
No wonder they stopped partying with him out of nowhere, must be a terrible experience.
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>>253437905
shield block doesn't stop attacks in Vanilla, it's literally a waste of rage, it's only useful in raids to reach def cap
defense stance is only 10% more health which wouldn't make the difference, he got two shot
broken gear doesn't matter, he may as well been naked with those low level greens
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>>253437967
>duo leveling
looks like someone watched too many Kargoz videos
OH NO NO NOO!!
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>>253438340
he probably took two crushings / crits in a row, shield block would help against crushing
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>>253434032
Just grind like 50 linen cloth and DE the shit and violin you got the wand
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>>253436225
>its fine we'll just turn it off after the most important phase for emergent pvp for levelers is finished haha
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>>253438578
wrong, it only helps if you have over 100% mitigation to push crushing off the attack table (impossible before level 60)
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>>253438559
friendless cope
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>>253438710
who cares if they have sharding for the first 3-4 months, as long as they eventually take it off?
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>>253437964
Yeah he made it a true vanilla WC for soda and others. Missed the jump and got lost running back. Then got 2 shot by a boss because he was in the wrong stance and had 2 pieces of broken armor equipped.
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>>253438340
>>253438778
>people will defend this shitty design
S O U L
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>>253437641
holy shit rofl how can one person be so bad
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i think they should buff off specs like ret, balance and enhancement to make them more in line dps wise with other support specs
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>>253438942
I wouldn't be playing a solo game like WoW otherwise
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>>253439028
He's a Cata-baby, he's not used to actually take it slow when the Boss of a dungeon is higher level than you.
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>>253439040
I think you should fuck off back to retail
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>>253437456
>>253437561
>>253437808
>>253437942
>>253437964
don't forget he was the one who leaked the last wow cinematic just for the sake of being an edgelord
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imagine being tipsout

you get the chance of exploding in growth because you play with sodapoppin

instead he shows how much of a retard he is
so much that soda calls him out even

imagine he had gotten soda to host him
now he's sitting at 2k viewers during EU prime
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holy shit esfand is just as bad as tips and staysafe

doesn't buff asmongold with might ever, doesnt buff the mage/priest with wisdom ever

doesn't offheal when the priest is oom ever

doesn't use hoj effectively

doesn't ever judge crusader on elite mobs that live for awhile

why are these classiccast tards such frauds?
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>>253439158
He's your average youtube who does everything for views.
He just needs to put out his 11min+ videos, including 4-6 ads, and he couldn't care less.

Honestly, Blizzard should of have removed him from the beta-invited, after he was being retarded again and leaked that there would be a beta (and even hinted the week it would be in).

>>253439189
>One shot at getting big
>Can play with Soda
>Does something stupid
>Tilts Soda the fuck off
A remarkable skill, must say.
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>>253438778
No you retard, an attack that is blocked can't be a crushing or a crit. Yes there's still the 25% chance (if we ignore dodge / parry), but it's fucking 75% to avoid it
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>>253439158
I don't blame him for not realizing there's people that actually give a shit about some CGI orcs or retail 'lore'
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>>253439189
i didnt care for the tips hate until last night. You guys were right hes a fraud
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>>253438948
the most important and fun part for a server re. persistent world/emergent gameplay is the leveling phase

it's going to taint the overall server lifecycle and make it feel artificial and fractured
all layers will do is segregate populations and you'll see people teleport behind you from other layers and people running away to other layers
id rather wait for the next round of servers that won't have layering from the start if what they say is true
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>>253439216
staysafe is actually pretty good,it's just that he couldn't compete with hunters and a mage for the race to 30
asmongold and esfand are retards that get carried by normalfags
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>>253439561
good one staysafe, people that never played Vanilla before are keeping up with your 6 months of routing you did to write your 'leveling guide'
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>>253439556
I was really hoping it would only affect the first area, but it is what it is, and I honestly understand why they added this layer mechanic.
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>>253439556
just don't play during the first two weeks
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>>253439884
>two months
ftfy
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>>253439556
>you'll see people teleport behind you from other layers and people running away to other layers
I doubt you'll see this as often as you think
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It's refreshing to see the commentary being led by a mature adults who don't try to be drama whores for views. The future of the Classic streamer community is quite bright going by what I see on Twitch!
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>>253439556
you are wrong and also apparently didn't even read what layering is, cheers mate
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>>253439621
halp
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>>253439556
layering is not phasing retard
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Hypothetical

What happens if server pops dont die after phase 1, but keep growing in population instead.

How do they remove layering in phase 2 then?
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>>253439189
>>253439476
imagine being so fucking stupid you actually trigger soda who has a pretty relaxed attitude and just wants to have fun. jesus christ, imagine getting hosted for like 50k+ viewers and lose them all. amazin.
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>>253440090
it's only streamers and a few boomers who subbed back in 2004 right now. they'll have more invite waves in the next weeks
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>>253440137
>What happens if server pops dont die after phase 1
That has a 0% chance of happening
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>>253440120
>>253440017
t. hits up his layer 2 buddies on discord for invite when his quest hub gets raided instead of fighting back
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Holy shit i was wrong about classic.

Watching Asmon and the game has so much soul. The leveling experience is actually fun.
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>>253440090
only 12k+ view streamers got invites, you're not getting in any time soon
there will be more invite waves for stress testing however
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>>253440149
I'm amazed over someone managed to tilt Soda off. The guy literally has a manchild staying at his house right now, who nearly lost him his fucking cat in the first fucking day. He was really calm about it.
It takes a special retard to really piss him off.
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>>253429926
rolling
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>>253440240
except you can't do that? it's a new technology not the same as phasing/sharding
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>>253440259
Actual chance to die from overpulling?
Soul.
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>>253440212
I was subbed in mid 2005 and didn't get shit. but I am a nobody, only people who can produce hype got inv now, the rest of us retards will get during stress test
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>>253440315
cat story?
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>>253439556
>you'll see people teleport behind you from other layers and people running away to other layers
Are you braindamaged? The whole point of layers is that this DOESN'T happen.
>illidan gets 3 layers
>5k people per layer
>5k people log in, layer 1 fills up, all those 5k are on layer 1 no matter where they are in the world, even if they teleport between continents or hearthstone
>same happens for 2 and 3
>server is full
That's what layering is. It's not phasing. You wont phase out. You just might not always be on the same layer as someone else on the server whenever you log in.
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>>253440436
t. didnt even read the thread
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>>253440365
wasnt this the demo before layering was introduced
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>>253440365
>blizzcon demo
Here's your (You) retard
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>>253440149
soda's only thing he cares about is classic rn kek, I can imagine people messing with his classic experience tick him off more than anything

>>253440365
>2018
>continously posting 2018 in 2019

>>253440446
it's a lot more challenging and at the same time more casual friendly! ain't that just terrific!

>>253440501
will inviting people to your group make them join your layer though? how does groups work with layers?
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>>253440365
OH NO NO NOOOO!! but Blizzard PROMISED!!
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>>253440501
another retard that didnt read the thread
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>>253440315
Perhaps the GTA RP changed him.
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Lads I’m a 22 year old boomer. Can someone help me find a long version of Tips getting exposed in WC? I missed it yesterday
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>>253440524
that's exactly what's going to happen with phas—layering
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>>253440634
You're the retard for falling for the blizzcon demo bait.
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>>253440756
Okay retard
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>>253440259
>Actually have to do quests
>Need to traverse the world and explore
>Partying up is actually recommended a ton of times, putting a social twist into it
>Actually need to use CC abilities, on basic encounters
>You feel rewarded when something good drops from a rare/elite
We told you fuckers from the start, it has so much soul.
Sure it's clunky as fuck, but it just feels better.

>>253440472
Fucker opened a door, and held it open with his foot, and without noticing, the cat was gone.
However, the cat just ran to Soda's room and hid there for the entire duration of the poor fucker stressing out over losing Soda's cat on the first day.

>>253440624
It's not about it being challenging, it's about it being more down on earth, and bringing people together, doing quests all across Azeroth.

>>253440692
Never watched that, because I honestly found it boring as fuck.

>>253440740
Literally just search yourself.
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>>253440740
3 different streamers were there including tips himself. pick your favorite
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>>253440740
just check his or soda's twitch vod
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>>253440740
it's just retail normies trying to smear the face of the private server community because they hate each other
tips was always a casual boomer, he has nothing to expose and even admitted he didn't play retail Vanilla
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>>253440812
>>253431297
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>>253440137
reddit spacing
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>>253440237
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>>253440629
troves....
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>>253431297
how is that the same as sharding? the reason phasing is bad is because it ruins immersion, layering is Blizzlike
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>>253429926
Watcha reading buddy?
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>>253441178
it's repurposed sharding with a different name
you'll just have to manually change layers with groups and it won't be hard to abuse this unless they ban people for it
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>>253441250
who cares if you can switch shards, how does that affect your gameplay? it's not immersion breaking and retains a sense of server community
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>>253441392
> how does that affect your gameplay? it's not immersion breaking
>>253430281
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>Esfand and asmon about to go in DM

Hope someone slips
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>>253440436
Layering is just continent-wide sharding. You can still transfer between them at will.
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>>253441415
we need /ourguy/ in the beta, he's the only one whose opinion we can trust since he's not paid off by Blizzard
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Hopefully the classic wow boom will inspire Blizzard to make retail better.
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>>253430731
alliance or horde is whatever. pve server tho? find new friends
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>>253441516
>You can still transfer between them at will.
Citation needed
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>>253441415
as long as its alliance
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>>253441510
>>253430281
good thing I'm not a corpse camper or griefer? those all sound like good things
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>>253441580
Fuck retail let it burn in missery and set an example for all the people asking for nerfs and quality of life changes
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>asmongold WC run about to start
>got coke, potato chips and a dip
being a zoomer is bliss
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>>253441512
asmon getting carried hard with donations so far. let's see how dm goes
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>>253441642
read the thread
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>>253440849
I know that's what the game is about, but the post I replied to sounded like it implied that the game being harder (pulling more than one mob might mean death) was a bad thing, I totally agree it's more down to earth and I absolutely love how social you're forced to be in classic

I lvl'd to 15 on northdale and had more social interactions than when lvling 1-120 in retail

>>253441415
I have literally never been to reddit but I would cry about that, I honestly hate that world pvp isn't locked to within 1 lvl of yourself (like 21 can only pvp with 20, 21, 22, etc) . but it is what it is, hopefully my friends roll on a pve server where I can stick to duels and bgs for my pvp
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>>253441642
see >>253431297
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>>253441741
>retards shitposting on 4channel are my source
lmfao
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>>253441725
>all this but with immense nostalgia too
You aight though zoomer
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Layering is a more wide scale sharding. The shards consist of a whole continent, ie. either Kalimdor or Eastern Kingdoms. Each layer will have 2,5-3,5k players and it is "permanent" in a sense that you won't see people phasing in and out unless you intentionally join a party with someone in another layer.
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>>253441821
That doesn't sound like changing layers at will. What if your friends are already on your layer?
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>>253441580
>The year 2024
>WoW Classic's success have spawned WoW TBC
>Retail WoW left in the gutter

>>253441632
Figured, it's the only option.
I didn't mind faction much, because it's more about the people you enjoy the game with.
Not doing PvP server though? Fuck that, I'm out.

>>253441512
>>253441725
>Asmon need to tank
>Didn't level skill in Sword prior to this
>Paladin as DPS
This can only go one way.
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>>253441767
>social interaction on northdale
that's impressive, how long did it take to learn mandarin or are you a native speaker?
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>>253441696
>i dont want to create situations where people will be forced to ally with each other to overcome them
you sound like you belong on a pve server
and you cannot refute the third point either
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>>253441767
Why we all have been sperging out about it.
It brought people together, and it was fun, despite it being clunky as all fuck.
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I will fucking love if their DM run goes to shit like the WC run last night. Watching their joy turn to anguish is peak vanilla comfiness
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>>253441954
do you even know what phasing is retard, it's not the same as CRZ
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Idk lads

Druid healer? Esfand as dps? Asmon as tank?

I can see a wipe happen in the molten room with the small golems
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>>253441979
I'll be really buttpained if they do burning flight instead of making a new expansion that avoids BC problems
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>>253442186
There is no phasing or CRZ in Classic. Sharding/layering are completely different.
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>>253442227
druid ooms pretty fast but if Esfand keeps an eye on her mana it should be fine. I don't think he will though
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>>253442236
>burning shit without the shit
that would be epic! but it's never going to happen, all the zones are literally made with flying in mind
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>>253442159
me too but it's probably not going to happen considering how many in game donations and tips asmong got so far. twitch zoomers are literally teaching him how to play class he has been maining for 13 years
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Here’s an idea

Stop the fucking expansion bullshit raising the level cap etc.

Just continously add new content to the world. More centered on community, making the game immersive etc.
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>>253442415
So just don't make them with flying in mind
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>>253442292
layering is phasing not sharding, sharding implies cross-realm
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>>253442159
There aren't many places where you can get lost in DM, but some of the Bosses I highly doubt they'll 1-shot.

>>253442236
Not sure what you mean here, but I honestly think they'll try to make a TBC version aswell, at least they hinted that they weren't against it at all.
I just hope if they do, they scrap flying mounts.
Sure, they were cool, but they removed the whole explore the world aspect completely.

>>253442227
>Druid Healer
OOMs literally after 5-6 heals.

>Esfand DPS
Just the fact that he's doing Ret, is a dead giveaway of deadweight.

>Asmon tank
He's required to level Sword skill, because he have been using a Mace all this time.

This run is all on the Mage and Rogue, CC'ing targets, to make it easier.
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>>253442415
couple of bridges and stairs here and there should do the trick
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>>253442450
idk that would just mean hitting level cap would be trying to skip as much level cap content as possible to get to current gear
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>>253442530
>layering is phasing
Wrong
>sharding implies cross-realm
Wrong again
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>>253442450
Would also fix most people's biggest grudge against expansions:
>Raid Gear they had used long time to farm, made completely obsolete by an uncommon quest reward
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>>253442515
sounds like a lot of effort to salvage a trash tier expac, rather reexperience Classic WotLK, MoP or pre-nerf Cata
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>>253442697
3/10 bait
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>>253441569
>drama sperg
>ourguy
ok
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>>253442697
No I mean make new content
This is not a small indie company
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>>253442635
>layering is not phasing
can you cite a source to back up this claim?
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>>253442450
the power difference would grow huge. Since stats would have to be better in the new content, people would start hitting ridiculous amounts of crit chance or avoidance with massive amounts of spelldamage and attack power. It'd be retarded, a new player would get oneshot by anyone. There's a reason they reset everything once power grows too huge with expansions
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>>253442697
TBC is unironically the only S-tier expansion there is.
WotLK is maximum an A, and everything after that is B and below.
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>>253442869
Can you support your claim?
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>>253442635
You're retarded. They've openly said you can switch layers aka shards
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>>253442828
>he says, and will be there playing day1
spineless cuck
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Based big bro just gave me 100 euros to buy the World of Warcraft 15th Anniversary Collector's Edition Pog!!! I love my big bro gonna suck his penis later
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>Waiting for everyone to arrive at the zone and walking to the Dungeon together

Kino
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>>253442927
S as in Shit LOOOOOL!!
literally the esports expac
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>>253443041
>waiting to be able to play
SOUL
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>Powerful Seaforium Charge is requiered to solo tribute run
>requires 275 engineering to craft and use
>2 thorium widgets (2 thorium bar, 1 runecloth each)
>3 dense blasting powder (2 dense stone each)
>2 rugged leather
>1 spring water
Aside from being a time consuming- and expensive profession to level up, how expensive donthe charges sell for, or how expensive is crafting one?
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>>253443041
>Managed to not have a single dude go in and snipe the messenger
I'm actually amazed.
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>>253443012
that doesn't mean it's not a different system, layering prevents immersion breaking by having to see people pop in and out of shards
nobody cares if you can't follow streamers around and grief them (it's against ToS anyway)
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>>253443139
>teleport me in with strangers pls
SOULLESS
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>>253443175
Shows how dead the servers are
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>>253443260
If you actually played retail you would know the only relevant dungeon content can't be teleported to
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>>253443172
just take a Rogue lol
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>druid already oom and they’re only walking

This is going to be good lads
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>>253443195
>layering prevents immersion breaking by having to see people pop in and out of shards
You can phase in and out of layers in exactly the same way you fucking cretin, its no different.

If I'm on Layer 1 surrounded by others in Layer 1 and I join a friend in Layer 2, I phase to that Layer. Popping in/out of existence in the exact same manner someone that got sharded does.
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>>253443360
>if you actually played retail
oh nono....AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>253443360
I'm referring to LFD, baka
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>>253443378
And halve the loot thus gold, in a run only done for making gold....?????
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>>253443384
>They need to follow the traitor again
Already starting out good.
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If the mage is a noob and doesn't know how to cc properly, this run will be very fun to watch
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>Esfand already fucked up big
>They’re not even in the Dungeon yet

Meme magic
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>>253443175
layered
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https://www.strawpoll.me/18003139
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>>253443525
I'm aware. They're not relevant content, haven't been for a long time.
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>>253443527
just buy tokens for gold lol
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Friendly reminder that Big Guys will never amount to anything when classic wow launches (check their WoW progress).

Friendly reminder that Big Guys is full of redditors.

Friendly reminder that Big Guys will be back to 8 players in 3 weeks after classic wow launches.

Friendly reminder they have niggers and trannies in their guild.

Friendly reminder they have single-handedly made this thread boring as fuck and cringeworthy to look at.

Friendly reminder that even all of the above somehow fails, they will still be clearing MC when even the filthy casual guilds have progressed to Naxx.
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>>253443567
Same goes for the Rogue not sapping.

>>253443568
It's like retail have turned them into fucking retards.
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>>253443494
you can't freely swap between layers, what if your friend is on the same shard? retard
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>>253443782
Who do I join then
I don't know other humans
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>>253443782
noone cares about your discord cliques, fuck off
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>>253443869
You underestimate the power of addons, shardhopping has been around for years and it'll be even more important on el Classico
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>>253443968
I care
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Daily reminder a yuro streamer cried for 30 minutes over wow yesterday
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>>253443568
Runs around Stormwind doing nothing for 10 minutes while Asmongold is in Stormwind picking up classes. Proceeds to fly to Loch Modan after Asmon leaves Stormwind to start doing Deadmines. Makes everyone wait 15 minutes for him to fly back all the way from Loch Modan. Proceeds to walk around in circles for a minute upon reaching Westfall before heading to them to get the Messenger. Proceeds to fail the Escort quest by wandering off like a tard.

Staysafe embarrassed himself by failing to outlevel literally everyone while hyping himself up constantly as a speed leveler god with a 9hr time to 20 and 22hrs to 30.

Tipsout makes a complete fucking fool of himself in Wailing Caverns.

And now Esfand has made 80,000 people in Asmongold's chat hate him before even entering Deadmines.

Also >>253439216
Esfand is such a fucking retard leech, can't wait to see him crash and burn
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>>253443752
Obviously that's not gonna be a thing, silly
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>>253443869
Nice backtracking.

Truth of the matter is that its not "immersive" in any way, people can still pop in/out of existence just because they joined a group.
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Here we go
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>>253444073
quick rundown?
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no persistent world
no persistent sub
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>>253444079
>Classic "community" is full of fakes, frauds and retards
Was this meant to be surprising? 80% of the people hyped for this are dumbasses that can't hack it in modern games
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>>253443906
The Patricians Choice
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>>253444079
This is that vanilla experience ive been waiting for. Seperates the cucks from the alpha nerd. God damn i love it
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>mage and druid both constantly oom
>not even inside yet
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>>253444345
>vanilla
>for nerds
If you were actually a "nerd" you'd be playing P1999 not casual wow
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>>253443782
pickles where is the spreadsheet, how can i funpost without one
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>>253444383
>They didn't bring a single mana potion with them
They'll struggle with Sneed, holy shit.
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They’re still waiting for Esfand?
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>>253444516
pretty sure he's on his way into the dungeon rn, he accidentally autowalked out of reach of the escort while the others completed it (so he failed it)
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>>253444383
>3-4 mobs accidentally get pulled
>mage instantly casts blizzard
if those were elites they would wipe 100%
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This feels like an actual adventure.
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>sjw retards actually getting triggered by the make azeroth great again hat
jesus christ
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>esfand looting while party still fighting
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>>253444865
Now imagine doing this with complete strangers, and going onto discord with them.
It's pretty fucking comfy.
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>This thread is just full of twitchcancer
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>>253444950
c-can I just type
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>Asmon pullying without taking caster mana in consideration

It’s gonna happen bois
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>almost 100k viewers on world first DM run
retail cucks must be seething right now
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>>253445060
Sure, but in current year, most people will immediately drop their discord.
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>esfand still hasnt put might on asmongold, let alone the rogue, let alone wisdom the casters
what a fucking retard
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>>253445045
ya if all fags are going to talk about is a faggy eceleb then just wait and make a classic thread until closer to the actual release.
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Esfand is just getting carried
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>Never using Thunderclap

>>253445171
But, he does have Blessing of Might?
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>>253445045
twitch is fine, don't need to be elitist about it unless people are being actual zoomeretards

>>253445060
for sure, but even going into discord with muted mic is comfy, and makes it a lot easier - getting to randomly know people you group with and maybe friending the good ones after final boss is down only to be invited by them some days later is so much fun to me

>>253445171
>implying it's not concious
he needs to get the most dps as ret, it's his thing dude

>>253444865
literally all I want from a rpg/fantasy game, to make my own adventure/experience somehow
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>>253445325
thunder clap is battle stance only in vanilla
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>>253445045
what do you expect when no one has the fucking beta
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>>253445367
>twitch is fine, don't need to be elitist about it unless people are being actual zoomeretards
This thread is people spouting non-sequiturs assuming you're also watching their favorite internet eceleb cancer. Of course its bad, retard
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>>253445045
What the fuck else are we supposed to do in a classic thread, it's closed beta
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>>253445367
>for sure, but even going into discord with muted mic is comfy
Yeah that's basically what I did to get my shitty 2.1k rating back before I quit
I cannot into talking
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>mage and rogue are decent

Wipe cancelled bois
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>>253445414
Ohshit, it is? I completely forgot about that shit.
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>>253445443
>>253445526

OMG BROS THEY'RE DOING DEADMINES NOBODY ELSE COULD HAVE POSSIBLY SEEN THIS ON PRIVATE SERVERS FOR YEARS
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>>253445513
I'm sorry bro, I'll just log in to my beta key that I absolutely got and play there and upload screenshots, I'll naturally stay away from the best content there is right now for watching the game

>>253445548
I have a hard time speaking at first but get overly confident if I have been in vc with someone for more than like 3 hours total, the first time you realise you're talking and don't feel nervous about it is great
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zoom zoom
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>>253445713
It's not often we get to see ecelebs be incompetent retards
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:pick: POOGERS EUGH
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>>253445721
>I'll naturally stay away from the best content there is right now for watching the game
the game has been out for over a decade. You're not discussing it, you're hyping up a mediocre run from attentionwhores that people did every hour of every day, it is of absolutely no interest
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>>253445713
>muh private servers are a blizzlike experience!
lmao fucking shitter
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>>253445513
>>253445713
Bitching about other people talking about the game really doesn't make your posts higher quality than theirs.
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>>253445713
there's nothing to talk about and the beta just released, what the fuck do you want? I get you feel the need to be le ebin contrarian because all the big boys on 4channel are but try to contain yourself
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will there be any graphics toggles?
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>>253443782
reddit spacing
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>>253446004
They already said yes.
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>>253445790
...you get to see it every fucking day

>>253445874
Plenty of things are fucked in it as well
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I like the idea The Horde and the Alliance are rival more then enemies or friends.
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Ret pala is actually not so bad considering utility if it does decent dps in 5 man
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don't those "Classic™ experts" realize they will eventually go out of the instance and mobs will respawn by then?
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>>253445526
Not post anything or talk about it at all. Literal cucks watching twitch streamers have fun while your hands are tied. Its a fucking shame how none of you learned the lesson of not watching others play when you yourself could be capable of playing (in some capacity). As an example did you let the other kids make you take turns playing on the SNES/NES/N64/PS2/GC/PS1, etc? I fucking didnt. Made myself stay on and put the other kids in their place. Very few of them complained either.
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>mage does blizzard
>asmongoloid kites mobs out of it
that shit is infuriating
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>>253443782
1 nigger
1 gay twink
1 gay bear
0 trannies
0 traps

>>253443906
discord.me/bigguys
we have a small process for joining
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>>253445936
>>253445962
I'll try and spell it out because this seems to be hard

>Talking about the game, like asking what classes are good at x
Fine

>Talking about the AMAZING fact that some literal who isn't using a blessing
cancer

The latter isn't talking about the game. Its just talking about ecelebs being ecelebs.
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>>253446036
>...you get to see it every fucking day
Not at the one thing they specifically hype up constantly.
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>87k viewers
>just playing the classic wow beta, no special event
>there are literal /v/ermin retards who think classic will somehow fail, when this game is exactly what people need and want
I'm glad some retail drones are going to be eternally seething right now
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I just ordered the MAGA hat. Get mad cucks
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>>253446174
>asking the same retarded "hurr what to roll" is fine
>talking about the LITERAL FUCKING GAME WHICH WE'RE SEEING FOR THE FIRST TIME is cancer
go choke on a dick you raging newfag
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>>253443906
Why would you even join a 4chan guild? Considering how insufferable people can be here, would you really want to be with them outside the site as well?
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Bruh they’re never gonna start the fucking Dungeon. Those miners cards have a shitty drop rate
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>>253445074
cause hes a retailcuck
he doesnt know what regen is
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>>253446149
No one gives a fuck what you think, dummy
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>>253446075
yeah it's really nice, also it feels like both are equally "good" when it comes to the races and their aesthetic being cool/unique, like it matters more about what you want than what you "need" to pick.

>>253446298
ummm sweety that's gonna be a right-click report from me, byebye hun ;)

>>253446430
he's just been playing nothing but retail for a very long time, that's also why he can't get into other games with actual difficult/learning required. when all you do is grind mobs in dungeons and raids where you 1shot mobs you kind of lose your skill after a bit.
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Are Dark Iron the only evil Dwarve group who became good?
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It’s actually very comfy watching vanilla wow on twitch

As others have said you actually feel like you’re tuning in on an adventure
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>>253446359
Yeah I'll probably just try and join some random one
It would just be nice to have a group right out of the gate
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>The constant combat-looting
It actually triggers me more than it should.
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>>253446552
>games with actual difficult/learning required

the only learning required for darksouls is learning to roll
thats not hard
assmong is just shit at videogames
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>>253446359
Do you really think the people around here know how to behave around normal people? The mere fact that you can't spam nigger and faggot in the guild chat as much as you want rules out over 50% of the people here, and that's just the tip of the autism iceberg
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>>253446343
>WHICH WE'RE SEEING FOR THE FIRST TIME
oh hi catababy, never seen a deadmines run before?
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>>253446669
>Do you really think the people around here know how to behave around normal people?
Exactly, so why would you want to join a guild made up of them?
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Is Zekhan now the loyal most lieutenant of Varok Saurfang?
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>>253446648
yes, and the only thing required to do math is to write numbers.
every game requires learning what stuff does, after that it's simple but it literally has to take time to learn from the beginning. if I were to play a brand new class i never played like monk or demon hunter I would have no idea what spells do and it would take me a ton of time to read, use and learn how to use, even if it's generally easy and simple as fuck once you do.

>>253446669
i'm sad barrens chat isn't gonna be as cool now that rightclick reporting is a thing, at least we'll have some chuck norris jokes
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>>253446682
Yes this is the first time we're seeing classic outside the shitty demo which had tons of problems. Classic is not vanilla, it's their attempt to emulate vanilla. People are curious whether they succeeded or not. Got any more absolute bottom of the barrel retarded shit you want to spew out or are you done seething?
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N-NO THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO WIPE ON FIRST PACK OF TRASH T-THIS SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING
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>mage knows how to CC

It’s ogre
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imagine unable to coordinate a boss fight in fucking deadmines. oh god
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>>253446805
Because I'm one of them. Nobody plays with 4chan because they want to, we do it because we have to
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>>253447118
this is your brain on retail
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>uses shield block
>doesn't use revenge
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Homecoming is back up
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>>253447118
bros they actually got deadmines running!!! hype!!!
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>>253447248
Honestly I'd rather play with normalfags than 4chan or reddit. And I mean actual normalfags, not guilds that actively advertise as LGBTQ+ friendly because that's the exact opposite spectrum of the problem.
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>>253447205
>sheeps before sap
nod really :DD
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>>253437320
I unironically enjoy watching perplexity and sodapoppin
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>>253447361
Whoops, wrong dead mmo general
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>>253447325
I love these memes, really outs people as not playing the game at all
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>>253429926
rolled warlock last time

let's see
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>>253447537
soda isn't cringe but he hangs out with literal retards who are making his stream hard to watch
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soda was fine until tips shitted up his stream by being the world's worst tank in wailing caverns, it actually turned into kino though, when tips really started to get exposed at the end and everyone was making fun of him.
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>>253447645
Did CC all the time with irl bros
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>>253447675
try a paladin this time, hating losing is pretty much the same as loving winning
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Please wipe them shredder
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>>253447793
ONE TIME
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>>253447765
I'm saying that even the current game heavily incentivizes and requires CC
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>>253447750
It became even better when everybody rejected party invites from him later on.
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This has probably been asked before, but once Naxx is old, how would you feel about a brand new raid tier. Not an expansion, just more new content.
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>>253447897
Oh sure, I stopped by MoP which was AoE faceroll
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>>253447771
well I love winning more than I hate losing, but I also crave change and am all types when I avoid conflict while I lead the fearless supporters aggressively.
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Mage has mana potions
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>>253448121
I'd rather get into the actually good expansion(s) than more frostbolt spam
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>small dick druid isn't even dpsing
imagine rolling a druid so you can solely spam 2 different ranks of healing touch
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>>253448162
multibox all the classes
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>>253448184
Why are you in the classic thread if you don't like frostbolt spam?
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>>253448121
I don't care what they do as long as it doesn't turn into TBC and that other nonsense
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>>253448121
My issue is not with new content in of itself, it's just that Naxx gear is already so ridiculously good that I'm afraid of what happens if you make a tier above that. Just go to TBC.
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>>253448175
yeah they have more consumables than what people carry in karazhan
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>>253448121
They've talked about perhaps adding content that was supposed to be added to Vanilla, like Karazhan for Lv 60.
Honestly, I'd rather get into the superior WoW state, which was TBC early stages, but have them fuck off with the Flying Mounts.

>>253448241
>Conserving mana is a bad idea when you have a giant red flag as your tank
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>>253447750
https://www.twitch.tv/sodapoppin/clip/CourteousCulturedWaffleYouWHY
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>>253448121
>New raid tier

Nah

Id prefer if they made it more community related. Like scarab Lord sort of events that open new raids. But without bigger armor sets. Just some form of reward that doesn’t ruin Naxx gear. Also maybe a way to control the economy to fight inflation would be nice.

Resist gear would be kino
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>>253448121
Sure because then any expansion might be new instead of BC and we can potentially avoid flying ruining the game
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>esfand caved and took the maga hat off
pathetic
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I come from the future, they will wipe on the goblin boss patrolling the edges of the ship. Screen this.
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>>253448443
>YouWHY

kek
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>>253448293
You could always make a side tier like ZG is.
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>>253448263
In the hope that the interest in it will make TBC servers a thing, obviously. Vanilla is the shitty stepping stone to get to where I want to be.
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scarab lord title doesn't exist in WoW vanilla, it was a BC title :)
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>>253448443
>It gets worse when you realize Tip reported his death to that one Boss as a bug, saying it did far too much damage
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>craftsman not making small golems???
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>>253448121
some anon made a classic+ post last thread on continuing content
he had some alright ideas
I'd look for it, but I'm too lazy
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Is it a mistake to make a bear/resto hybrid? I want to tank 5/10 mans and carry the flag.

https://classicdb.ch/?talent#0zZxGxscMzLVEooco
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>soda is pretty quiet and friendly
>asmon acts obnoxious and childish
I'm honestly impressed that someone as much of an eceleb as soda is decently enjoyable to watch.
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>>253448749
it's the engineers :^)
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>>253448749
Just saw one make them, maybe the spell rate is just fucked?
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>>253448693
https://clips.twitch.tv/PoliteModernWormMingLee
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B I G
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>>253448618
>Vanilla is the shitty stepping stone to get to where I want to be.
This, without meming, with zero irony or sarcasm. I am supporting classic in hopes we get TBC.
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>>253448801
lol no
he's just this way because he's "depressed"
he used to be a screaming autismo just like every other streamer
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>>253448787
You'll never get out of 5man dungeons with this.
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>>253448787
check out skarm tank, he made a video on druid tank/heal hybrid
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>>253448862
Like others have said, fine, but drop flying mounts.
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>Esfand redpilling them on the engineers

Reeeeee
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>>253447750
>>253448443
>>253448693
>>253448845
>people who never played vanilla are bad at vanilla
colour me surprised
not

tips is a shitter and only got "popular" because he shits out 10 videos a day about absolutely nothing giving his retarded asinine opinions that nobody asked for
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>>253449050
https://www.twitch.tv/sodapoppin/clip/MagnificentMoistCamelPeteZaroll
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>>253449012
Flying mounts actually worked in TBC/Wrath because the game actively gated off sections of the expanion as being flying-only. You know, actually working a mechanic into the game's design instead of just having it be a way to bypass content. If anything the fact that blizz always tries to lock off flying these days shows they're too lazy and scared to make content that uses it.
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>>253449148
There's no way he's not doing this on purpose as a poor attempt as being funny.
I refuse to believe it.
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>>253449281
He pulled a boss with completely broken armor and was begging for anything else to wear, leather cloth, just anything intact!
Soda had to take over as tank in bear form, despite being the healer.
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Is Van Cleef the final hope
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>>253449220
Flying was fucking amazing, until you realized how it made you never explore shit.
Need to go somewhere? Flew straight over there, didn't engage in any enemies on the way.
It was basically flight paths, but you were in control all the time.
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>>253449381
Bears unironically work better as tanks in a lot of 5-mans because of swipe.
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>>253449426
>It was basically flight paths, but you were in control all the time.
Yes that is indeed flying, anon.
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>>253449381
>Tips legit thought Vanilla WoW had a lot of the systems like retail WoW had
>He didn't expect to get punished for dying over and over again like a fucking retard
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Level boost and heirlooms ruined WoW.
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>>253449426
Yes which again is why it worked in TBC/Wrath, because it was REQUIRED to explore the endgame stuff. TBC had floating areas you had to fly to get to, and Wrath had giant peaks or massive death zones of enemies that you had to fly to get around.
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>>253449468
That wasn't the problem, he broke all he gear by falling off jumps and getting lost in the maze and pulling elites while on his own, dying, getting lost again and dying again.
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can anyone with actual vanilla experience redpill me on the damage values?
I have a feeling that players deal too much damage while mobs deal too little but that's just my private server fag ass observation.
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>>253449418
the mages in purple could possible nuke him down with their fireblast if he pulls more than 2
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>layers
fundamentally change the dynamics of the overworld game by allowing players on a server to escape from conflict by joining a group, or by joining a group in order to gain an advantage against ungrouped players in their layer, or by logging out and logging back in to avoid gankers
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>>253449680
I know, I'm just making the point that it's not like druid tanks don't work. The only reason they get a bad rap is because they don't have the survivability to tank raid boss attacks.
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>>253449683
The hard numbers are all from their own data, its not guesstimated like private servers are.

Private servers are all unironically overtuned.
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>lockpick the door
>then fire the cannon
Excellent
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>>253449552
>Not getting the point
Good job anon.

>>253449605
That's actually a fair point, but it still made me explore less.
I often took myself in simply flying across the fucking map, not bothering with exploring anything on the ground levels, unless if I were forced to.

>>253449680
>He can't even ready a fucking map
Not surprised really.

>>253449683
Get to Westfall and fight the Defias casters, and then come back and say the exact same shit.
Vanilla's balance was insanely scuffed. Some enemies were way too easy, and others would rip your face off clean.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>253449874
In fairness by the time you had flying in TBC, you already did all the stuff on the ground unless you really grinded for gold in vanilla.
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>>253449857
>>253449874
I meant the damage numbers in the beta now compared to back in '05.
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>No water

Fucking lmao.
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>>253450027
Thats what I'm telling you; the numbers in the beta are from their own tables that are identical to vanilla retail.

Private servers were just based on estimations
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>>253450085
They said no changes!
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How can the developers miss the lack of water
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>Water is missing
Okay, that's fucking hilarious.

>>253449994
I think that's the thing, I had played Vanilla for quite some time, and the second I had access to purchase it, I had enough gold.
>>253450027
If you're talking about the stream, they came with decent'ish gear, and their team is actually competent enough, else they'd struggle hard.

The damage seems to be the same as retail back in '05.
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I thought this was

World of Warcraft Classic General

not

Twitch Dot Tv Classic WoW Streamer Discussion Thread
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>>253450196
Devs couldn't make it beyond Sneed
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>>253448957

What's wrong with it? All its missing is Savage Fury and a few points in Feral Instinct/Heart of the Wild. Will they make that much difference?
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>>253449994
Getting your original flying mount wasn't that expensive, it's just that it's so damn slow that outside of the flying-only zones, most people said "fuck it" and stuck to their epic ground mount until they had epic flying.
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>>253450196
Blizz often fuck up the water, they already did a bluepost on it + other Beta bugs. There was that time in BfA datamining where the entirety of mulgore was flooded and everybody thought it'd be a warfront and Jaina was going to go crazy but Blizz just fucked up their water placement
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>>253450337
>only Twitch streamers have access
"durr why you talk about streamers?"
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this would be much more fun to watch if they weren't running such good comp and asmon didn't get coached on how to play by his viewers. it's literally impossible for them to wipe now...
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>>253450561
Watch Soda and Tips if you crave failure.
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>>253450337
>seething this hard
just report us lmao oh wait you'll be the one banned LMAO
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>>253449829
>The only reason they get a bad rap is because they don't have the survivability to tank raid boss attacks.
Considering how much easier the foundry was in this stream than in private servers, we may just be used to overtuned content.
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>>253450561
Oh sure anon, thats the reason they're not wiping. Not that a blind mongoloid could get through vanilla pve content
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Esfand confirmed unexposed
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I can't remember so many items having that <randon enchant> thing in DM? honestly, not even one.
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>>253450713
if it's so easy explain how it took soda's group 3 hours to clear wc
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>>253450898
that's a visual bug
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>no Blue drops

Very good
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>>253450960
Because Tips is confirmed worse than a blind mongoloid, obviously.
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>>253450960
Tips
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>>253450898
No item should have the text visible, the items just have random stats on them. It's a bug
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>>253450960
They got through it with a tank that got completely lost, had no gear, and died on the pull.

But they still cleared it.
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>>253450898
That's actually a confirmed bug, there's a blue post up on the forums about it here: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-classic-beta-known-issues-list-5-15-19/173883

"Items with randomly generated stats will display the <Random Enchantment> tag in the loot window and chat tooltips when being looted"
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>>253450898
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-classic-beta-known-issues-list-5-15-19/173883
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>>253449683
Normal mobs never did much damage. Pulling 2, let alone 3 mobs on a private server was certain death, but on retail vanilla 14 years ago it wasn't that bad. Not a good strategy, but doable. At least if they didn't have stuns or some ridiculous debuffs like -75% hit.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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When does the level cap raise? I really want to see BRD
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>>253449683
private servers had completely random damage and armor values on mobs, based on guessing. These are from their own past data
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>Esfand wasted bubble before Van cleef

Pala’s how long is CD on bubble?
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>>253451220
NO NEED FOR INVITE JUST WIPE THEM ON VC PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>253451220
discord.me/bigguys
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>>253451150
This, people are going to be really surprised when vanilla lacks almost all the challenge people hyped it up to having
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>>253451313
It wasn't random, it was based on a curve. Vanilla isn't the one that isn't a curve and is more random.
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>>253451314
1 minute debuff no target
No CD
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>>253451415
well random in a sense that it wasn't from vanilla but rather something they made up, even if the made up a system
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I guess Greenskin pulling really easy isn't just a private server thing.
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hope this smug cunt wipes on edwin
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Were private servers actually overtuned? I'm worried this isn't going to be as challenging and rewarding as I thought it was.
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>asmongold and crew do full clear deadmines with no wipes under 2hrs
>tipsout and crew take 5 hours in WC with countless wipes
>files a bug report because a boss hit him hard while he had a broken chest piece
>complains that private server mechanic of hamstringing a boss isn't in retail
>started playing the game in cataclysm

is there a more pathetic player than him?
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>>253451739
Vanilla was easy, didn't you play it?
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>>253451739
>Were private servers actually overtuned?
They have to be with how much he pulls at once and isn't even in danger.
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>>253451739
>Were private servers actually overtuned?
Massively lol
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>>253451739
Some were, but they also had a lot of numbers off, namely in how much armor and/or resistance mobs had, including bosses.
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Explain if I'm wrong about these thoughts, please.
Is Mara Princess runs going to be one of if not the best gold farm until Dire Maul comes out?
And when it does, why is a mage better than a warlock at AoE farming lashers? And is it significant enough that a warlock can't do it 5 times per hour or what?
Can a 60 warlock with, for example, mostly if not full preraid BiS do lasher farming as soon as it is available?
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Give Van Cleef your energy

\o/o\o\o/o\o\o/o\o\o/o\o\o/o\o\o/o\o
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>>253451739
It's actually opposite. Popular streamer did a 1-20 time in multiple private servers and his now classic beta run is like 5+ hours extra. It's pretty nuts. Mobs also seem to resist a lot more. The only issue I see right now is HP regen seems to be all over the place.
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>>253451784
a person that watched him do it
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>no wipe

Meh
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>>253451931
You're conflating difficulty with time taken again, common mistake for the retarded.

Confirmed by the fact you bring up regen as a bug, which is Blizzlike.
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>>253452071
>>253452061
Were you that desperate for a free sub?
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>People honestly expected them to wipe

I hope you didn't think that Vanilla was mechanically challenging
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>>253451876
no idea about mara but pretty much every class with an aoe can farm lashers efficiently
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Gnomeregon will get him
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alright classic's cancelled pack your bags we're resubbing to retail
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Holy shit, asmon at 98k. Classic WoW saving Twitch
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GIB BETA PLS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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this time you won asmon...however...sfk trash...
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>do a single deadmines run
>make like 8k
I wish I was a streamer bros.
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>>253452528
>Going to SFK as Alliance
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>>253452407
Im just happy to see WoW so high again. Hopefully Blizzard is taking notes.

A fucking lvl 20 dungeon from 2004 is pulling more viewers than anything retail could ever dream of.
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honestly staysafe has the most amusing stream rn with trying to lvl fast, hard, and solo 99% of the time
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>c-classic is DEAD!!!
>asmon gets 100k viewers
retailfags btfo
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>Asmond makes 1000 dollars for completing a single dungeon

/vg/ BTFO once more.
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>>253452586
>not doing all dungeons in a beta
what's the excuse? they just have to walk over, it's not even that uncommon
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>>253452589
Actually, sweetie..
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>Asmon 100,5 K viewers and Esfand 8,2
WE'RE GOING HOME BOYS
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>>253452578
>8k

Bruh he made way way way more than 8k
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so real talk. I am considering resubbing to wow to enjoy what i can of BFA before it dies at the end of summer but idk if ill have enough time to really play the game a lot. should I even bother?
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>>253452197
Yeah it should be doable by the time it comes out, because it'll be weeks or months to gather some decent gear. Shadow Ward (lashers do shadow damage), VW bubble, fire spec and Rain of Fire should on paper be able to do it easily. I wish someone with experience could tell.

Warlocks and Hunters can easily solo Princess the moment they hit 60, in all greens. Princess runs should yield like 30g/h with little effort. Probably won't be anything as efficient until phase 2. Devilsaur leather will be overpopulated, just like all the other outdoor farm spots.
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>>253452578
he makes over a million a year, 8k is nothing
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>>253452727
>The fight to get into SM as Alliance on PvP servers
I fucking can't wait, shit was a blast.
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>>253452737
G'hunn peaked at 96k I don't know where you're getting this from
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Hey, you know all those 'WoW Classic Class Guide, Which one is right for you?' videos?

What if there was one that had the description of people and catalogued the most autistic and stupid stuff streamers who mained that class have done? Asmongold hair bits on Warrior, Kargoz doing dumb shit for Hunters, etc. It feels like reactionbait.
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>>253452881
Yeah you're right anon these stats are all made up and your memory is more accurate

faggot
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>>253452751
Yeah I know, but 8k for an hour of "work" (aka doing something you really enjoy and are having fun with) is just so nice. Considering I make like 300-400 bucks a week.
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Twitch was a fucking mistake
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Imagine 100k people watching a deadmine stream
Classic is truly gonna bring a shitton of money to blizz
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What the fuck are community subs and gifted subs

24 year old boomer here
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>>253452861
>gatekeeping allycucks in SM as a high level horde
lmao
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>>253452737
>Beta for a game from 2004 being played by spergs doing Deadmines can compete with the modern version of itself

It feels good man
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>>253452859
What, Asmon has cash?
He looks and lives poorly as fuck?
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>>253452961
I hear ya man. Life fucking sucks but just remember he's literally a 0.00001% on Twitch. Happy that classic wow is doing well on the site.
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I love McConnell
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>>253452881
Try >160k, sweetie!

>>253453057
People tend to tune into things hyped for years
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never forget
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>>253452578
same
too bad I have no charisma
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>>253453131
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>>253446530
>watching other people have fun, while you can’t

Your opinion never mattered at all cuck.
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>>253453131
HAhahahahahhahaha

Holy shit exposed
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>>253453065
He literally bought PinkSparkles a house.
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>>253453123
>>253452737
>comparing a world first race of the biggest guild that wow has ever seen to a small beta with less than 500 players running a 15 year old level 18 dungeon
Pic related is you
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>>253452748
>HOME
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1NLnbXtIys1
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>>253453065
Of course man. Each SUB is $5 minimum. Twitch takes a cut usually but I bet that they don't even take shit from his. At max a $1 for each. This is just subs not even talking about the bits, the donations, the ad revenue. It's just insane when you think about it. He's making millions a year.
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>>253453123
This is just the beginning retail cuck, your ass will be filled with the might of the Classic cock and you will like it.
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>>253453065
he's a basement dweller neckbeard that has said that he doesn't care about money
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>>253452961
Be the alpha male. Dominate the highest level boss in the company. Get the big bucks.
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>>253452737
You're acting like they wont hit 200k during their first run of MC or their first BRD run on the actual game. Reminder this is just a SMALL beta.
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>>253453243
The reason why its tuned into is exactly because its less than 500 players, retard. Its exclusive.

Even people here admitted they're only talking about it / watching it because they can't get in themselves.
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>>253452779
If you need to ask, the answer is an obvious no.

>>253453012
Imagine being a dev at Blizzard, and hearing that Classic is more succesful than what you're working on, fucking retail.

>>253453024
>Can't play Horde, because poll decided my group will roll Alliance
>Fuck it, I can manage
>Need to figure out a legit strat to get into SM and farm it until everybody decked out

>>253453065
Fucker is a millionaire, but lives in his childhood home with his mother, who is sick.
He's literally the incarnation of the "neckbeard", if you see how he lives. The table next to him? Old food that's all moldy.

>>253453131
I hope he'd start his stream, and then be welcomed to beta had been removed from his account, due to incorrectly reporting bugs, which weren't bugs.
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>>253453131
Manage to grab a clip last night when someone mentioned it in a thread. https://clips.twitch.tv/SwissStylishChipmunkBabyRage

Just gotta make a webm now.
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BRING THE MOTHERFUCKING STITCHES
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>>253453384
>When more players get in to the beta (making the stream less exclusive) the viewer numbers will increase!

galaxy brain reporting in
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>>253453387
Blizz did a perfect job giving him an invite so we could all see him get exposed

8d chess by blizz
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>>253453131
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>>253453387
Protip: If you're taking so long to write out replies to a dozen people that you miss critical replies that show how retarded your post was, you're doing it wrong
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>>253453450
>chest armor was broken before pull
>had no idea
>told the group that it just broke
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>>253453238
>>253453265
>>253453374
>>253453387
Holy actual fu-
>lives and takes care of his sick mother
I kinda dig this guy. Only looked at some Assertonsin uploads of his stuff as well as pieces of his gardening stream, and thought he was kinda entertaining (especially when he gets mad or acts dumb), but he seems like a good guy.
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>>253453386
That's bullshit and you know it. Asmon and Soda get numbers this big regularly when they are playing less exclusive games. Hell soda got what, like 200k viewers playing grand theft auto roleplay? When Soda runs MC come september/october he will definitely hit over 200k, possibly hit 300k.
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Esfand, Asmon status: UNEXPOSED

Tips, soda and madseason status: EXPOSED
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>>253453636
He barely does take care of her, from what I can tell.
I'm surprised he, or his mother haven't died from the mold.
Like, his hygiene is insanely bad, his immune system must be insanely powerful.

But yeah, he's honestly a pretty good guy, and he's apparently insanely friendly.
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Are they meme’ing him into taking the staff?
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>>253453662
>Hell soda got what, like 200k viewers playing grand theft auto roleplay?
I don't know, I'm not an eceleb faggot.

Just thought I'd factcheck the OMG 100K VIEWERS BIGGER STREAM THAN RETAIL EVER HAD horseshit. Turns out its horseshit, as expected.
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>>253453754
I wouldn't lump soda and mad into there. Soda was doing good in the dungeon, but when you have an absolute retarded tank that has broken gear, does stance dancing without anger management, doesn't know the route, spams thunder clap because ???, just overall be bad it's kinda hard. Soda tanked better as bear than a fucking warrior in that dungeon.
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>>253453867
Baited hard lmao
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>browsing this general
>80% are kids and manchildren talking about their favorite streamers
>15% are fighting about trannies in guilds
>the rest is actually talking about the game
H-Home!
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>>253453867
No that staff is actually BiS at that level.
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>>253453636
I like his honesty when it comes to non-game stuff (obviously he has the elitist neckbeard thing there). He hates working and wants easy money and tells his cuck subs to go to work so they can donate the money to him. Basically he says what every streamer thinks because who the fuck doesn't want easy money from playing games. He also acknowledges he'd be nothing without this lightning in a bottle. Also takes care of his mother which is admirable
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>>253453867
>Being retarded
Staves are busted as fuck due to insane damage output.
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You take the legs right? Like there's a very accessible Redridge quest that gives you a mace that's literally just as good.
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>>253453904
Soda status is still exposed mate

Unfortunetly tips dragged him down into that category after WC
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Classic is fucking DEAD
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>>253453985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6oTIjvw_-8
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>>253453985
there's only streamers into the beta so we kinda got no other choice
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>>253453985
the rest = samefag ranting about his dislike for twitch*
>complaining about posters in the thread discussing game-related things = talking about the game
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>>253453852
Hygiene gotta be dealt with but I can understand not exactly "taking care" of her, but I'm assuming she lives comfortably with such a rich son assuming he dumps a bunch of cash her way or whatever.

I just enjoy his adorkable facial expressions.
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>>253453985
Man we don't have anything else to do anymore. Beta is fucking out and we're stuck here watching these streamers for our classic fix. It's fucking shitty but it is what it is. Guess we can all just stop and talking about what race/class we're going to fucking roll like anyone actually gives a shit anymore. I'm just bitter at this point.
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>>253454173
One look at his twitter where he posts pictures of his house, you can tell he should hire someone to clean the house.
I'm surprised it haven't fallen apart due to mold and being all rotten.
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>>253453636
He's a good guy who's career started by just repackaging /pol/ jokes during WoD. He legit has mental issues/had multiple breakdowns live and just degraded into a reaction channel to the point of being the worst e-celeb cancer possible until the Classic beta came out. I know most of 4chan hates streamers but i'm glad that this game, even though it's fucking boring to watch, is the most popular on twitch at the moment. Gives you hope that Classic has a future outside the community already begging for it
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>not going to barrens and doing WC

Low energy
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>>253453867
>baited
all a warrior cares about is dps and speed, and even speed at this point is negligible since only overpower does damage based on the actual damage of the weapon. Spirit is also really good on warriors, cuts your leveling time more than strength does. YES, YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST. SPIRIT IS THE BEST LEVELING STAT FOR WARRIORS
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>>253454307
Hell he might as well just buy a new one.
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Pink Sparkles is going to have a good time next time she goes shopping.
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>750k a year from subs alone and it only grows higher

Twitch was a mistake... no one should make this much money playing a video game. good for him tho
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I'm going as a druid duo with warlock from crossroad onward
I wonder if I should take furor at all
If I skip furor I get cat speed at 20-21 and I can rush to predatory strikes right away, since I will be a shred-bot most of the time
If I were to play solo I'd just take furor from the start and then be slightly behind on the feral tree, but still hitting predatory strikes by the SV (at 31-33)
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>>253454468
people make more by doing even more retarded shit. The "cash me outside" girl from dr. phil has an estimate of 3 million net worth
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is asmongold a cuck because its obvious pink is fucking other people behind his back
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>>253453123
>160k
he peaked at 98k viewers
concurrent viewers doesn't mean CURRENT
Asmongold peaked at over 100k today
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>>253454712
Imaging caring that someone you've never met is being cucked.
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>>253454774
imagine being a cuck
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>>253454742
Imagine being quite this fucking stupid
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>>253453131
this is going into my collection
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>>253454712
he's a literal autist who has a female show affection towards him for the first time in his life, obviously he's getting cucked hard
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I want to play
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>sfk
oh yeah baby, let the wiping begin.
bring that mage shitter and it's guaranteed
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What are good duos besides warrior paladin?
I think I could maybe find one person to play with.
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Former Tauren warrior in vanilla on Whisperwind (PVE). This time around I'm going Dwarf Warrior on a PVP server (with 0 streamers)

What are you boys rolling?
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>>253454856
how fucking mad are you right now?
your own image says he peaked at 94k (which is wrong, he peaked at 98k)

RETAIL BTFO
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>>253454970
>wiping in vanilla dungeons
only if you ninjapull extra packs and even then you can handle it with proper cc
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>>253454876
its not fair bros i want to save him asmon is pure
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Will classic have the (buy gametime on auction house) feature?
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>>253455145
no, it's confirmed
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>>253455042

This:
>>253435040
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How did Asmongold get so popular compared to other WoW streamers?
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>>253455062
Try reading again, dumbass. Final (you)
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>>253455145
No but you can just do that with your retail account since it's the same sub.
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>>253454858
this was the pull (notice red armor)
https://www.twitch.tv/tipsoutbaby/clip/HandsomeRefinedKimchiHumbleLife
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bros the wpsgchads are laughing at us...
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>>253455230
He's entertaining
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>>253455029
funny thing is war/pal isn't even S tier. it's A tier.

Warlock/Druid
Warlock/Priest
Mage/Mage
Hunter/Hunter

These are the absolute most broken duo combos.
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>>253455085
>2 worgen ass pull when healer is low on mana
>both pop their 30sec magic immunity shield
>room with undead soldiers with aoe silence
>bats with aoe silence
there are a lot of parts where they can wipe if they don't take care
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>>253453575
Asmon looked so happy during that entire dungeon. The way his eyes lit up and he smiled over every small thing. Even when he couldn't sunder armor because the rogue used expose armor he smiled.
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>>253455224

Bummer. I was considering playing, but my days of spending 15$ a month are over. Not because I'm poor, but because I feel like im blowing money if im not playing 24/7

>>253455247
I dont play and have never played WOW before, kind of just interested in classic since I missed out back in the day because I was hooked on Ultima Online still
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>>253455306
redpill me on lock/druid
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>>253455145
no but there will be server transfers
no race or appearance change
you will be able to buy classic time with retail gold since shared sub
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>>253455230
he kept talking shit about the game. Every retail WoW player is an abused spouse who can't leave so they love that kind of content
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>>253455062
Here you go anon I've added some zoom ins so even a total fucking mongoloid like you can read it
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>>253455306
Warlock + Shadow priest is peak nightmare duo to meet in Tanaris
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>>253455374
He's been desperate to enjoy WoW for so long and it's finally here.
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>>253455394
It's nuts

>>253455456
If I ever saw this on Nost I just ran away. There is nothing any class can do against them.
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>>253455256
>Healer 50% mana
>Charges in without saying so
>Pulls the Boss away from Healer's range to heal him, and the DPS
>Attempts to tank a Boss that is known to be a kite fight
>Doesn't even look at the fucking screen
>Looks puzzled over dying, when not paying any fucking attention
I'm not even sure how anyone could be this bad, is this what retail WoW does to your brain?
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>/vg/ likes asmongold now

uhhh what lol

hes an annoying manchild who couldn't even play finish sekiro
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>>253455386
do what I'm doing, use TSM addon on retail to buy and resell shit.
I managed to buy and save 2 coins during free weekends.
I make gold in retail to fund my classic time
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>>253455413
Are names from beta reserved for release?
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>>253455558
>guide from a guy that recommends using a /sit macro for warriors
really makes you ponder
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>>253455558
Where's that image from? link?
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>spastic retail drone compares low level dungeon in a beta with the world first kill of an end boss
you're gonna run out of straws before the game even releases
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>>253455394
Imagine the most safe shit to play, and then allow it on both Factions.
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>>253455595
doing variety was the biggest mistake he did. at least he admits it. he's the type of person who thinks WoW is the only game worth playing. im the same
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Lads I feel like rolling horde just to even out balance from all the people that will go ally
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>>253455686
These retail brain delayed spergs are overheating, they can't comprehend how their garbage bastardized version of the good game getting released isn't gonna be relevant for much longer.
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>>253455686
Both are major events.

Classic beta has been hyped for years, coming to a head with thousands of videos over the last couple of months over every single scrap of info available. Of course its seeing a lot of interest.
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>>253455672
>For a macro that's confirmed NOT working either

:^)
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>>253455597
Thanks, I'll consider that if I go deep in this
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>>253455595
>takes care of his sick mother
>buys his qt gf a house
>doesn't like sekiro so he's an annoying manchild
lol ok anon
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>private servers are more accurate than classic
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>>253455763
At least he enjoyed DS1, which I didn't expect considering he went in blind to a game he's never played that type before.
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>>253455672
Still the best way to level on private servers. I agree though that the guide needs to be changed. I'm not sold on Arms being faster leveling either way.

>>253455674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YCBd1VZVb4
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>>253456048
Wasn't the justification over Arms > Fury, that you don't need to find 2 Weapons, and finding a decent 2-hander was just easier?
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>>253456026
imagine being THIS retarded, nice bait have a (you)
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>>253455794
if the beta is anything to go off of there are more Horde players on right now. 2 big streamers did /who and there were way more horde playing than alliance.
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>>253455669
no but iirc theres like a three day window before launch where subbed people can claim names
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new thread?
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>>253455794
Horde are typically in the majority.
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>>253455794
Horde will be the majority mark my words.
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>>253456326
not to cap yet nerd
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>>253456134
No the justification is Mortal Strike hits really fucking hard. It used to hit even harder before they nerfed it in late vanilla. Also, Axe Specialization.
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i will personally hunt down people from here who roll horde and corpsecamp you for hours.
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>>253456218
ty
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>>253456432
>>253456432
>>253456432

WHEN YOURE READY

>>253456432
>>253456432
>>253456432
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>>253456418
In reality you'll stay and erp in goldshire like your retail friends
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>>253456383
Good, I won't have long ass queue times.
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>>253436536
Guess I'm rolling rogue then. God fucking damn it that's such bullshit. One of the best things for me about TBC and WOTLK was was the buffs to Pally's making them actually desirable in whatever roll they'd spec in.
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>>253456218
Do they make you change your hunter name if it's Bowjob?

>>253456048
I generally don't watch Kargoz's stuff because he's a little too hit with the rose-tinted glasses, but I have no idea why him and Alex are friends considering he's so positive and Alex is well, Alex.
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>>253456218
>>253456797
name reserve goes live on 13 aug, till 27, for those subbed
so sub early goyim!
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>>253457094
No I'm just asking, will they say, "no, you can't name him Bowjob"
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>>253439216
pls b joking
pls dont tell me these retards making money off playing wow dont even know the absolute basics
i cant handle any more clown world
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another early thread huh
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>>253429926
roll lmao
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>>253465194
lol
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>>253429820
>easy mode
hunter
warlock
paladin
mage

>medium mode
shaman
druid (can also be easy just depends)

>hard
warrior
rogue
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>>253429926
rol
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>>253473134
>rouge
>hard
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>>253474024
hard = annoying in this case

>always gotta pull small
>backstab doesnt work when soloing half the time
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>>253473134
easymode best mode
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>>253473134
Looking forward to my warrior.



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