Previous: >>253181679Celebration EditionFalcom Gameshttps://pastebin.com/8esKs8Pf >Mods, saves, prepatched translations for absolutely 0 dollarshttps://nyaa.si/user/GanbaUPDATED: 5/9/19>Latest news>New trailerhttps://youtu.be/yk5WQe5zX7g>Website updated with new info/VA teasershttps://thelegendofheroes.com/tocs3/>Cold Steel 1 released on PS4, Cold Steel 2 launching June 4 (NA), June 7 (EU)https://gematsu.com/2019/05/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-of-cold-steel-ii-for-ps4-launches-june-4-in-north-america-june-7-in-europe>First Ys9 Footage & Sen4 poll results on March/24https://gematsu.com/2019/02/falcom-to-debut-ys-ix-footage-and-discuss-the-future-of-the-trails-series-on-march-24>Ys9 website now livehttps://www.falcom.co.jp/ys9/Pastebin (aka music): http://pastebin.com/G2mswYCt Extra Stuff (Guides, downloads, undub patches): https://pastebin.com/n2G4xL5s >Sen3 by Kitsunehttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U3A2DZATuRy_OvUe2zueY_QTSGCBuVwp4kOK0MpvzbE/edit#gid=2018643075>Sen4 by Kistunehttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E0FLBMlc9Mkr23u3peS2zFw64owS94zExUfWNtugV8A/edit?usp=sharinghttps://pastebin.com/bAUutPeE (Translated bonds & extras)>Trails in the Sky The 3rd Evolution English Patchhttps://gbatemp.net/threads/release-trails-in-the-sky-the-3rd-evolution.531268/>Sorcerian complete editionhttps://mega.nz/#!49ZV1QLD!EawBdJXGQaYw6pbkRmCd_D-GNMEpiSYyqBJefUOU-MU
FLYING AROUNDGOING TO SAVE OUR HIGH SCHOOLIT'S THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIPHaha, that's our rean... :3
>>253385553Gaius please don't cuck me
We made it to 500, bros...
A sad Rixia who wants to roast a whole deer for dinner to alleviate her depression...
How soft are Laura's feets
>>253386707maybe she should've thought twice before acquiring all that roast beef
What would be you reaction if Rean returns to be the protagonist in Calvard
>>253387017It's not going to happen, so I have no reaction.
>>253387017I would stop playing Falcom's games.
>Come home>See thisWat do?
>>253387625call the police
>>253387017I would haha and drop the series.
>>253387625Throw them in the trash.
>Berserk 2016 has better animation than Kiseki
>>253387625>No Millium>No AltinaNo worst cumdolls, no problem
>>253387781CLANG CLANG CLANG COLD STEEL CLANG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxk1syuf5lo
Why can't westerners draw faces?
>>253388521Dunno, why can nips only draw sameface?
>>253387625jo instructions when?
Marry ElieAdopt TioCrazy Uncle RandyHappy family forever
>>253387894I want to hold her hand haha
>>253390074I'm pretty sure Tio wouldn't be happy with that.
>>253390486kids say the darndest things
[Makes excuses in Kondo]>We’re aware of our weaknesses in the graphics department, as it’s been pointed out when we’ve participated in events in various countries. In Trails of Cold Steel III, we increased the quality of our models. And while we’re using motion capture in some areas in Ys IX, I also want to increase the quality more than before. When getting information on games, what first catches my eyes are graphics and illustrations, so I want to treat this as a future challenge.>However, I would like to say this for the honor of Falcom’s employees. They aren’t slacking off. Trails of Cold Steel concluded with the fourth title, but they created four games over the course of five years. There is almost no other company in the Japanese games industry that can continue to release 50 to 80-hour RPGs at that pace. For example, if we made CG movies over the course of two years, we would be able to achieve higher quality. But even so, at around 20 hours, the Trails series’ event scenes are far from two hours long. The staff naturally wants to increase the quality, but considering the release period of the Trails series and trying to deliver the games as quickly as possible, we have to make a compromise somewhere along the line. If we’re working while also raising the quality, we probably wouldn’t finish in our lifetimes.>However, I would like to have nice graphics. I myself have been told ‘the graphics are shabby’ when recommending games I like to people, which was painful to hear. Currently, we have young new talent joining Falcom, who are making all sorts of proposals with the thought of further improvements. I think that those results will gradually show face, so please look forward to that.[Makes excuses in Kondo]
>>253387625>leftSubtle, elegant, seduction honed by years of experience. Also a pretty faceI still honor our ceasefire, Rennekek. Just don't do any undesirable moves towards Daddy>right>>253388656>>253389348Blatant invitations for blowjobs is the only way the pugfaced Twitchthot can acquire subscribers.>>253385808Musse won jackshit. Also, you have a shit taste for sidewaifus, Rennekek.>>253388057Millium is bad cumdoll, but that can be easily remedied. Now saying the Perfect Cumdoll is the worst? Blasphemy. Fuck off Haglover.>>253390074Sell off Elie to Heiyue old menGive Tio to a random fat rich NEET from LemanHave Randy be kidnapped by whalers to pay off his debtsForce Lloyd to to be a human trafficker to surviveGive KeA to Children Protection Services
>>253391332They always look like they're running faster than they're moving.
>>253391280>Millium is bad cumdoll, but that can be easily remedied. Now saying the Perfect Cumdoll is the worst? Blasphemy. Fuck off Haglover.Get better taste Altinafag
>>253385553>tfw I'll be here for another 500 generals
>>253392186>getting better taste>when you already consider Altina as the best Kiseki girlHumanly impossible
>>253392541>>when you already consider Altina as the best Kiseki girlHop on the Fie train brah, Altina's just a shit copy of her anyway
>>253392950>Ruri is shit ripoff of Rei>Altina is shit ripoff of FieThe cycle continues
>>253385854Sara is built for Nords
>>253392632In universe she is a Renne or Tio copy
Millium > Altina
>>253392632>Fie trainYou mean the train of men that already destroyed Renne's pussy?>>253392950Ruri was alright, but she is shit as a MC.>>253393137Altina is not a thot like your Jaegerslut. The only similarities they have are hair color. Also, blondes a shit.>>253394436Millium is a defective cumdoll
>>253394554I mean Fie's pussy. Silly me.>>253394169Altina is better than Fie and Renne is for men with different tastes>>253393789Sara is built for Nord horses
no more talking about kiseki girls for the rest of this thread
>>253394554>defective cumdoll>is actually fun in bed compared to "dead body" Altina
>>253394736>Sara is built for Nord horsesSo Sara's good for something, whereas Altina's good for nothing
>>253389348Shut up, Tio. I'll rub my cock between your thighs and release a mess of cum on your punny
https://youtu.be/-bVwj_5MOrIHold me, /fg/
>>253394897>fun in bed>MilliumYou mean annoying? I bet Jusis will order a replacement to George within amonth. >>253394941Altina is for Rean while Sara is for beasts of labor>>253394842>supposedly related to Holmes>dumb as fuckHer design, save for her hair color, is fuckable though. Better stop being a detective and start selling her loli body while it's still prime
>>253395230>Altina is for ReanYou mean Rean watching her getting passed around every Gnome still alive?
>>253395485>saying this slander>while Fie is gangraped by Zephy and Tio participates in Mishy orgies
>optionalfags fighting again
Why is she so shit, bros?
>>253395940Few weeks of dieting and she would undeniably be best girl honestly
>>253396553>weeksHave you not seen her later appearances?
>>253395230Haha, your hat's very nice Altina! Why don't you go explore the city so that Daddy and Mommy can have some alone time?
>>253397058Am I supposed to read this as Alisa or Rean?
Sara > /fg/
>>253398310Shameless shota tart
>>253398480What does her kiss taste like haha
>yeah, you can start with Cold Steel and skip the first five games just fine, just read the wiki bro
>>253399686t. gatekeeping faggtfo outta bitch
Get fucked, Scott.
>>253396545It is incredible how shit she is
>>253397058Fuck off Altina will never accept a blonde corporate whore as Mommy. In fact, Altina will not accept any of the sluts orbiting around Rean as Mommy! Go back to developing a Level 200 Robotic Dildo bitch>>253396545>>253401279The only shits here are your taste and your trash waifus
>>253387625Take Tio to my room and cuddle with her.
>>253401340>worrying about mommies
>>253401340>Fuck off Altina will never accept a blonde corporate whore as Mommy.Get used to it kiddo. Every single one of Rean's girls are going to be your new mothers.
>Renne hiding from her parents after saving her little brother and hearing their story
>>253402904...and then there's Estelle and Joshua's scene after the fact.
>>253401634Crow literally has AIDS>>253401901No your waifu will be reffered to as a faceless nonentity to avoid offending the waifufags; meanwhile, Daddy Rean adopts the Perfect Cumdoll as his daughterwife.
>>253403952Magic ghosts don't have diseases. Any AIDS he gets after coming back will be from Rean.
>>253404082Crow has alien AIDS.
>>253404548The clinical term is AYYDS.
Could an awakener survive being salted?
>>253403952If Rean shows up in a future arc, he’ll either appear with crow or altina. This is true
>>253402904>>253403227All the scenes continuing the Renne and the Brights' arc in Zero are unironically kino.
Why does the Altinakek tolerate Renne?
>>253406561Ugly, Laura is much better
>>253406427Zero is sort of the last remnant of Sky's character writing style. Enjoy it while you still can.
>>253406561What does Emma smell like
I don't really understand why the writing in Cold Steel took such a nosedive compared to the previous games. And the games are selling better than ever! It reminds me of people praising Code Geas instead of watching LotGH
>>253409915Reuenthal did nothing wrong.
>>253409915CODE GEASS > LOTGH
Trails of Cold Steel but Crow is the mc, Rean the main villain and the cumdolls never existed.
>>253409915General incompetence and wanting to pander to a new audience for more otakubucks. The cast being too big, the girls wanting to fuck only Rean and having to be separated from the guys to make sure the waifufags wouldn't get jealous, and character interactions getting locked behind optional bonding events fucked up the character writing. Unnecessarily dragging out the plot for 4 games without a coherent plan, death and war getting turned into a joke, and having to somehow connect it back to school shit fucked up the general writing. But as you said, it sold well and people clearly love it so be prepared for more of the same in the future.
>>253406561because his ammunition doesn't stick very well.
http://kzgj.cy.com/main.shtmlSora no Kiseki MMO
>>253412331Where's Agate's bandana?
>>253412560it made him look fucking lame so they got rid of it
Superior Blonde right there
Nice fanbase, fags
>>2534167023chads rise up
>>253412331>>253412498>>253412560>>253412763So, who's the blonde girl in the back?
>>253416867OC, I reckon.
>>253416702Kino European/Japanese boxART cover, here we come.
>>253416867I can't believe Ein is finally going to do something.
>>253417631Oh, I have no doubts it'll be garbage, Anon. I just find this whole situation hilarious.
>>253417631>First Azur Lane>Then Mahjong Soul>Now Sora no Kiseki MMO with delicious OC waifuYeah, I'm thinking the chinks are becoming based, if not taking over the world with their waifus already
>>253416867>>253417564so why is it only Sky and how do they even plan to cram enough meaningful content in it?
>>253418131Probably because Sky turns fifteen this year.
Someone could explain me the "Fly around, save our school with the power of friendship, that's our Rean, haha" meme?
>>253420074Did you play CS2?
>>253419705what's wrong with her face?
>>253420401Prepare mentally for the act 2.
Just finished all of TiTs. Should I do Cross Bell next or jump into CS?
>>253420154Looks like the artist tried to emulate her original art style but failed and didn't bother to fix it.
>>253420541If you're a rabid fan already: CrossbellOtherwise: Cold Steel
>>253420541Crossbell next, then pretend that that's the end and never touch CS.
>>253420541Play Zero/Ao, ignore Sen.
Haven't played Ys Origin since 2012 - has the game always been this buggy? It crashes all the fucking time
>>253420774I like the character arcs but they're so fucking slow. I was hesitant at first how SC went full chuuni but it grew on me. TC also feels like a fan made game, it feels so different from the first two.
>>253421085It literally never crashed for me back when I played ~100h of it in 2014
>>253406561>old and haggy no goodLoli Emma better!
>>253421085Never had any crashes when I played in 2016.
>>253422721epic create a character chinksEpic
>>253411638actually based, but I’d take anything except pseudo-bracer shit at this point.>make one of the most in-depth and immersive jrpg worlds in the medium>waste on formulaic and repetitive games where you do the same shit again and again
>>253420074In CS2 and 4 you fly around doing inconsequential shit and the plot completely revolves around Rean with his army of orbiters doing nothing but standing in the background parroting that stupid line
>>253422721here's my OC
The winds sure are nice today
>>253424831Haha, classic Gaius.
/fg/ is as padded as kiseki games
>>253424831Haha, that's our brapdoll Altina.
>>253425215literally every general ever
>>253420541CS1 then Crossbell then CS2
>>253425518That's not such a bad thing
>>253425596You do know a lot of shit in CS1 happens that they manipulate player's expectations on that will be ruined by playing the games in that order.
>>253425632I want to kick her in the cunt. Repeatedly.
>>253426081Sounds like a problem with you more than anything else desu
>>253422721Why do those two guys have Kurt's swords?
>>253426514Kurt split into two
>>253424831Yup, that's our Gaius alright
Another speed run of CS4. Pretty much beating the shit out of the other speed run by nearly an hour.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKsX5BD7qHg
>>253428383Damn, I respect it
>>253428383Chinaman's run will never be beat
>>253428383>when you cut all the bloat
Who is that girl exactly, saw her posted by the same guy quite often but I don't remember seeing her in sen games.
>>253386707Rixia is built for anal.
>NIsa discord>all falcomkeks in therebros.....
>>253432861Kuon from Utawarerumono Mask of Deception/Truth. Crossover promo costume. Great game if you want more padding than all the Kiseki games combined in the form of drawn out conversations about food and tacked on tactical combat with zero depth that still takes lifetimes.
>>253434112Is that a surprise? NISA lost all their other big franchises. Why do you think they're actually trying with Falcom stuff as compared to their usual attitude of minimum effort? They're trying to build a new base.
>>253434212I see, thanks anon, might gave it a try.
>>253434483It's perfect for people who want to read about fictional food for 25 hours and enjoy slurping noises and constant OISHII.
>>253434274>completely butcher ys VIII because they thought of it as some garbage obscure series, not expecting any kind of backlashWeird way to build a fanbase.
>>253435217>redo localization and spruce up pc port>game sells more than any other falcom game in historyHaha...
>>253435479They're basically turning into Ghostlight. They used to handle bigger games and franchises of their own, but then they started failing and ended up porting shit like this to PC instead.
>>253435479>Wizardry: Labyrinth of Lost Souls, which first launched for PlayStation 3 in 2011,EpicAnother game nobody asked for
>>253435479OH NO NO NO NO NO WHO HAS EVEN HEARD OF THIS GAME
>>253435479>Japan continuing some dinosaur bones western CRPG seriesWhy?
>>253435217I never said NISA was GOOD at it. But that does seem to be why they're pandering so much this time. Also the Trails fanbase is way more rabid online tan the Ys fanbase, even if it sells more less people talk about it.
>>253435479I mean isn't it obvious?They're setting their exceptions low going into E3(May 29) to bait people into thinking they're dead.Then BOOM E3 COMES:>Ys 9 PC + PS4>Trails of the Sky Evo Switch>Trails from Zero Evo Switch>Trails to Ao Evo SwitchI mean they hired a great editor, the same dude that did the famous Yakuza games... They're not hiring him to do shitty games from 2011 and Senran games...
>>253438043Don't forget the sneaky CS4 localization that will come out BEFORE CS3, showing how incompetent NISA is compared to them.TRAILS OF COLD STEEL IVSUMMER 2019XSEED
>>253435527>translation is still far from perfect>pc port still has massive issues for many peopleHaha...
I'm already at the end of Leiston Fortress in the 3rd, how long till the door where Agate fucking trashes Tita and thoroughly widens her into womanhood?
>>253438539>translation's just fine and doesn't have much fanfic>pc port works for people with gpus more recent than 2003Haha...
>>253438267who is the blue haired girl?
>>253438267Do you think KeA and Shuzuku experiment with each other?
>>253438635Agate will never give her the time of day.
>>253438649>deflecting to fanfic for whatever reason when it wasn't even one of the translation issue>ignoring all the complaints and straight up lying about something anyone can verify with a quick google searchHaha...Haha...
>>253439075Yes, we can verify that he's correct.
>>253439075People with outdated hardware who play at 720p to begin with have no right to complain about anything. Buy the PS4 version and call it a day. The game works for people with actual gaming PCs, and even the recent reviews reflect that. You'll find that almost every single complaint on the Steam hub comes from people with toasters and ancient hardware. And yes, the translation is fine. Grasping at straws, anon.
>>253439274>check steam review graph>all recent negative reviews are from chinese players with 1 hour played complaining about lack of chinese supportLITERALLY CANCER
>>253439427FUCK CHINKSFUCK EPICIM SO MAD THAT SEGA AINT SHOWING UP AT THE PC GAMING SHOW THIS YEARAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>253439623>all the negative reviews from when the shit version launched are still impacting the overall rating of the game>95% of the reviews since then have been positiveayy lmao
>>253439735you just know
>>253438635in sen the 5th
>>253439714>filter reviews by language>specify simplified chinese>the number makes up the vast majority of reviewsLOOK AT THESE GOOKSOH NO NO NO NO
>>253439953The Chinese use the Steam reviews solely for review bombing. That entire country and all its people are toxic in nature and should be quarantine from the rest of the world.
>>253439735Elie a cute!
>>253438635Any perceived romance between the two is projection. Read less porn and you might not think this way, you horny bastard.
>>253439075>check steam forums>people have deduced that the game only runs well on windows 10Imagine using Windows XP/7/8 in 2019... haha.
>>253440980Are you this guy?
>>253441428I'm not gonna read all that shit, so no.
>>253440980Neither projection nor self-insertion, you big dumb jigaboo. Agate will cave in and split her in fucking half in time as soon as Renne's past rubs off on her and she starts honing her advances.
>>253441572Sounds like you've been spending too much time on ExHentai.
Is Cold Steel 3 even good?
>>253441913I'll tell you in a few months
>>253441913>Before spreadsheet and no loc announcement: the best>after spreadsheet: the worst>after spreadsheet and announcement: drop series
>>253442030The life and times of a JSL.
>>2534419133 > 1 > 4 > 2 in order from best to worst.
>>253441913Second best game in the series.
Convince me to finish TiTS1
NISA > Xseed
Aksys games >>>>>>> your shitty ass companies
>>253442914I'll bully you out of this general if you don't, faggot.
>>253442914Nigga drop Trails and just play Ys instead.
>>253442030What's that spreadsheet supposed to be?
>>253442914The plot goes berserker, you acquire unbelievable quartz and weapons and the final dungeon is neat
>>253442914Drop it in your ignorance. Nobody gives a fuck.
>>253441913If you liked 1 and 2, I can't see how you wouldn't like 3.
I recently got into the trails series. Is it likely that Cold Steel 3&4 will eventually get PC versions like Cold Steel 1&2? It would suck if I had to stop after Cold Steel 2 if I don't want to buy a PS4.
>>253445459>still doesn’t have a PS4Epic meme fellow /v/ermin
>>253445459depends whether NISA hates money or not
>>253445459Likely but only if you stop bullying nisa
>>253445640Buying a PS4 now is like slapping yourself.
>>253445730>if you stop bullying nisaRIP>>253445640I have a powerful PC, so I wouldn't use the PS4 for multiplats and there really aren't that many PS4 exclusives that interest me. It's not worth it for 3-4 games.
>>253446074>still parroting /v/ memes
>>253445028I dunno, just see senfriends mentionning it quite a lot but I don't really know what it is.
>>253446518Only the most hardcore autists bother with the spreadshit. Neither game is enjoyable when you can't read and understand the text in real-time. Menu navigation and non-main plot dialog is also out of the question to follow. Just imagine ruining the first-time experience for yourself by slowly suffering through the game like this.What's even funnier/sadder is that people used a real-time translation phone app to play the game before the spreadshit.
>>253445839Depends. If you are an anti social gamer who doesn't care about hype you can buy a PS4 now and go through a meaty library of games.I like to buy games during the Golden Week/Big in Japan sale and spend the rest of the year going through them.
>>253440164Yeah and Americans politicize everything. Muh SJWs muh race muh Trump did nothing wrong.
>>253447378they did everything wrong tho
>>253438798Lloyd put a camera in KeA's room to find out.
>>253446852I still don't know what that spreadsheet is.
I was struggling with TiTS until some anon here told me to just spam earth shield, which trivialized the whole game, not as much on TC though. I kinda feel bad about it though.
>>253446852A lot of the UI (including the maps) is already in English, and if you can read kana it's even easier.
>>253447920they're literally in the OP you blind fuck
>>253447920It's a poor translation of the main script of CS3/4 that you can refer to when playing the Japanese versions. In other words, it's fucking nothing.
Any particular reason someone is shitting their pants over the spreadsheets existing?
how the fuck did we make it to 500 threads
>>253445459Possible. NISA probably didn't make promises of it at first because they promised Falcom the Ys 8 PC release would be simultaneous and they missed that by what? Half a year? More? So they're probably avoiding overpromising this time since it bit them in the ass last time. But Falcom and Kondo specifically said they want their games on more platforms (that's one of the main reasons Ys 8 did well), so I would think that CS 3 and 4 coming to more platforms would probably be on the docket at some point.
>>253448149Who hurt you?>>253448285I see.
>>253448285it's much better than nothing, but some of the flaws are obvious like Kitsune not having a fucking idea to differentiate Divine Knights from Aions
>>253448602It's not much better than nothing. Localization was always inevitable. It's a matter of patience.
>>253448526A lot of fags who waste years learning Japanese get extremely butthurt when other people can play/read things they enjoyed and used to brag about.
>>253448602Aions are called Aions. What do you mean?
>>253448707Zero and Ao are examples of "better than nothing," since those games were just never going to be localized. CS3 and 4 were obviously getting localized.
>>253448542Unironic waifu posting
>>253448707It's good to have options for those who don't want to wait on uncertain terms.>>253448897Congratulations for missing the point completely. They're also called something else than Aions which is where Kitsune made his cumulative mistake.
>>253449434If you're just going to vaguepost, I won't bother. Enjoy nobody caring.
>>253449649You LITERALLY can't find a mention of "Aion" in Kitsune's Sen III sheet if it's not a direct reference to a name of specific model because he calls them Divine Knights, (indistinguishable from actual Divine Knights) incorrectly. Of course you can determine it from context. How its it hard to understand?
>>253450514That's why I was confused. It's clear from context, so I didn't bother to remember it being a problem. His IV work also uses Aion more often.
>>253448808This. It's so funy everytime. I literally would be fine if any other form of humor was removed from this world and we only had these guy seething.
>>253451358A clear distinction between the two has been made with different kanjis but for whatever reason Kitsune just cut the corners and said fuck it. In Ao's translation they're "god machines" called Aions.I agree IV sheet uses Aion more often (and also in one place incorrectly in place of Soldat of the RF's 5th division which he incorrectly attributes to 5th workshop of society as well)
>>253451941Right. Now that you have me thinking back on it, I remember thinking something was a little off about that when they went to Crossbell. They're not pulling a divine knight replica out to attack the party. Obviously it didn't stick with me.
who else /grace/?
>>253454980I'd give her a big scoop
>>253454980My inner /pol/ makes me want to hang all reporters from the streetlights sorry Grace
Obahan saving the thread but not herself !
>>253454980I want to suffocate myself with her ass
>>253458037Good riddance, fuck that old hag!
>>253458032I’m always here anon
>>253459401Better dead than in prison knowing that nobody loves you anymore, arguably a fate worse than death
>>253460057>redemption arc in sen the 5thhaha...
>>253459384this but her feet
>none of the ouroboros enforcers are evil, just misunderstoodQUALITY WRITING FALCOM
>>253460114I seriously doubt anyone can pull off a redemption for that guy after acting like a douchebag for 4 games in a row
>>253458032God I love Tio
>>253460348>organization is not evil>head is no evil>plan objectives are not evil>MEMBERS ARE NOT EVIL REEEEEEEEEEE WTF ????I hate sen as much as anyone, but your complaint is retarded.
>>253460348>strawmanning this muchNobody has ever said that. Walter and Luciola are clearly psychopaths. Arguably Shirley too but she's more of a bipolar. Renne was too before Estelle hugged her.
>>253460728what happens if we let Tio's hair down entirely
>the EVO voices patch for FC makes the cat in Zeiss meow twice at once>the original FC cat sound is an actual cat meow>the EVO one is a girl going NYAOHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
>>253462451Hey, that cat got super expensive after landing the Kamen Rider gig.
>>253460348Weissmann is super evil. And even as early as SC and Third, it's clear the rest of the organization doesn't like the guy all that much.
>>253464879>this secret society that tries to undermine governments thinks this one evil guy goes too farQuality
>>253465090I'm not sure what you find weird about that. Secretive groups going around undermining governments and assassinating people often have behavioral codes. What do you think intelligence agencies are?
>>253465746Why do you assume irony?
>>2534658804chan. If you meant it seriously, I agree. That's a reasonable position for them to have. Many of them are clearly not completely depraved.
>>253468037What does she smell like?
>>253468037How can one grandma be so cute, bros ?
Thank you Kondo for making Kiseki like Neptunia but LNshit
>>253446518It's in the goddamn pastebin>>253446852Still better than learning japanese. I can't believe there are people out there who learned the language literally because of kiseki
sen 5 whenchinaman whenneesa whencalvard when
>>253471302news next month
>>253472446news about WHAT
>>253472695who fucking cares besides ystards
>>253471302check back later
For me it's Towa
>>253474389>crowoh no no no don’t tell towa drawfag
OH NO NO NO REANBROShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS8wKV16hOs
>>253475968does this take CS3/4 into account? If not, why should I even watch this?
>>253476271As if CS3 and CS4 changed a damn thing.
>>253476375yeah lemme judge Estelle by FC alone.for one Rean doesn't have depression by the end of CS4 anymore.Your defensive response implies it doesn't take them into account and as such, it's not even worth watching.Now go fap to Estelle once more.
>>253475968>1,746 views>Mar 31, 2018
So we infiltrated the mob, had a cool shoot out that was very exciting and rescued the loli. Also did Lechter totally just steal the mafia don's cat?
>>253476956It just randomly showed up in my recommendeds.
Worshiping Estelle's sweaty feet after a hard day of Bracer work!
>>253478397Doesn't mean you have to bring it here.
>>253478635Why not? It's relevant.
>>253476839>Now go fap to Estelle once more.Yes sir!
>>253479780I could go get some shitty DA fan art and post that and it would also be relevant. Doesn't mean anyone wants to fucking see it.
>>253480546>Julia>that stackedno way
>>253480546inb4 Nisashill/sentard goes full "IT'S OKAY WHEN TRAIL DOES IT"
>>253460473You are underestimating nu-Falcom. These are the same guys who want you to sympathize with terrorists.
>>253481110This applies to a lot of JRPGs and anime but I think a lot of the time writers often get "sympathy" and forgiveness to mixed up. You can "SYMPATHIZE" with the devil himself because you understand his logic but that doesn't make their actions justifiable.
>>253480701To be honest, if you told me Julia wears the Trails equivalent of a sports bra or some other type of underwear that flattens her chest, I'd believe it. Would make sense given her profession.
>>253481390Sympathy is just forgiveness without material value.
>>253481510>TFW No sporty cutie to drag you out of shell and cave and even though you pretend to resent her you still find yourself trying not to show your smile when she has you running at a different pace
>>253481774>Friendzoned: The GameOn top of being a shit game in general, it doesn't even deliver on the social aspects used to rope in the incel waifufaggots. Sad.
>>253482023Im sorry I can't hear you over the sound of two girlfriends.
>>253482095You mean you can't hear me over the sound of being friendzoned by not only those two, but by the rest of the cast as well.
>>253482095TX does have threesome implications, true, And that's great. But sadly all we get is teases and MAYBE some stuff between Mitsuki and Shio (but even that is pretty faint), but Sora does friendzone Yuki. Even stuff like Ryota and Chizuru is too low key. Compare it to trails background relationships like Alan and Bridget where things actually happen.
>>253482853>TX does have threesome implications, trueNot really. If anything, the real love interest would be the childhood friend, whatever she's called. It's MUH FRIENDSHIP between Asuka and Kou. Also, I had 2 close female friends in high school as well, but I never banged either of them, let alone at once. Men and women can coexist without fucking. Food for thought.
>>253483074>It's MUH FRIENDSHIPI think it's MUH PARTNERSHIP. Haha...
Towa loves dark skinned men
>*clears throat*>FUCK COLD STEEL>FUCK TOKYO XANADU>FUCK WAIFUS (not literally incel lmao)
Reminder to go play/read Kikokugai to find out what happens when you don't fuck your sister. Kondo knows the dangers of not giving sisters the D.
And then there was slight turbulence and they all got crushed to death. The end.
>>253485994Imagine the smell
>>253485994>>253486256imagine being Joshua, getting boner and quietly sliding inside Estelle while she tries to hold straight face in front of Tita and Agate.
>>253486427Can't slide a micropenis into anything, anon.
>>253487042>>253486427Josh and Estelle had to adopt for a reason
>>253459401Delete this you fucking faggot
Imagine cumming inside Towa
>>253491713That's Instructor Herschel to you, bub
>>253490710>Doobles face when you cum inside
>>253492137>tfw Doobie forgives you for impregnating her after giving her two scoops
>>253492270That's what got her into this fix in the first place.
>>253492431What's wrong with her face?
>>253494867That is the face longing for the dick only to find out that the guy she wants to pursue is a fag.
>>253495427I look forward to all the screenshots of people's waifus getting cucked right before Osborne.
>>253481774>megane SoraA man of great taste.
>>253481774>>253482023>brotherzoning>in a Falcon gameKarate Kloe is playing the long game by preemptively using incest memes to mark Yuuki as her territory and to ward off other females. Alas, she doesn't know Yuuki is pleasured regularly by his cute Oneechan.Too bad the Kloe Cuck curse is too strong.
>>253490683I'd welcome Mitsuki any other day.
>>253497475She and Shio are just making excuses so they sneak off and have sex.
>>253498037I remember that one doujin where Shiori tentacle raep Mitsuki and Sora, was it? for being a risk in getting between her and her beloved Kou-chan
>>253498295You'd think she'd go straight for Asuka.
>>253385553Happy 500 boys
>>253498760Sounds like a slow day for Rion
Whitcomb's huge veiny moist throbbing meatpole = 1Esteru's pure clean unblemished womb = 0
4 more years of Rean and Neesa
>>253474389Crow and Towa are always so vanilla together.
Can someone write summary of Toal's route in Ys Origin?
>>253504690"Please Reah, let me smash!"
Mishi is sexy
>>253504690>Im being evil now>No you're not>Hmpppf am I>Clearly no>We'll see>Badguys tell him to do shit>AHAHAHAH I WAS GOOD ALONG!>Even we saw this coming>Eh fuck you anyways.>Oh and Darm is a Fact. And a fag.>And then this time Reah goes and stays go.
>>253505045Stop posting Tio
>nisa>uta>uta zan>cold steelio>xseed>wizardry
>>253505695Mishi is gallant and regal.
>>253505993I just want someone to pick up dungeon travelers 2-2 ;-;
>>253506018Mishi's feet > anon's feet(true story)
Is there a standalone/browser-based Pom! I could play?
>>253513378Just play Tetris you millenial
>>253513881If anything, it'd be closer to Panel de Pon
>>253513378puyo puyou pedo
Hey peeps! Just finished Ao a few days ago and I had a blast! This game was quite the roller coaster, and it might be my second favorite game in the series right behind SC. Anyway, here are some of my thought on the game.Spoilers ahead obviouslyAo was a wild ride. All the political drama, the cameos, the ancient Zemuria lore building, the plot twists, and our good ol' friend Ouroboros up to no good again really sucked me into this game. I know the more over the top aspects of the Trails games (or any game in general) doesn't jell with everyone, but it's one of my.. "JRPG guilty pleasures" so to speak. There's so much interesting lore and the plot always keeps me on my toes. It's one of the many reasons I fell in love with the series, Especially in regards to all the lore behind ancient Zemuria and how it is still influencing their world today. My favorite section of the entire game was probably the Trade Conference. The old "Sky" characters coming to Crossbell put a big smile on my face (although I thought it was funny how much younger Kloe looked). Brought back so many fond memories of those games even though I didn't beat them all that long ago. And of course, as always, Falcom knocked it out of the park in terms of the OST. My favorite song was probably the one that plays on the Merkbah during the final chapter. The driving beat really helped to build the mood.
>>253516237I totally respect your opinion and I get where you're coming from, but I prefer Zero's more down-to-earth story. Though I don't debate that Ao had the better soundtrack for the most part.
>>253518916Her dad was totally keeping her as his daughterwife
>>253519162Only degenerates believe in daughterwives, just look at Altinakek
>>253522787They just from Alabama.
>>253523618>have loli character in the game for about 3 minutes of screentime>try to have her boss fight mean anything at all>everyone forgets she exists 5 minutes laterGREAT CHARACTER
>>253387625I can't believe PeTiote is a white nationalist.
>>253387625My grandma will be very if she saw them in my room.They wouldn't enter in my dormitory.
>>253528564I think you accidentally the verb
>>253529239English is't my native language.
For me, it's Fie.
>>253497170Tokyo isn't Zemuria.
>years pass in the cucksekiverse>no one evers gets into relationships with anyone or has any meaningful character progression beyond what was established in the games themselves>returning characters are EXACTLY the same as when you last saw them in their respective gamesBased. Completely immersive world.
>>253532632That's in-game. Nothing happens between the games, and everyone remains single and living their life exactly the same way as they did in their original game. The reason is Rean's harem has to grow in Sen 5.
>>253532365>ZemuriaIts japan transliteration of russian word "Зeмля" ("Zemlya" - eng. "Earth".) Contient's real name is "Zamonia". Google it. It fiction continent on Earth.
>>253533395How? Years passed between FC and CS4. Jack shit has happened between the games, except for what's shown on-screen. The vast majority of characters remain single without any kind of personal progression or romantic involvement with anyone. It's not just the main characters or characters with portraits, either. The entire Kiseki universe feels very static and dead. Gotta keep those options open for future harem protagonists, I guess.
>>253533667This is why they have to jump 10+ years into the future with the next arc. No one spends years and years alone unless there's something wrong with them. Time skip, get people laid, married and queefing out babies and otherwise get on with their lives.
>>253534771>they have to jump 10+ years into the future with the next arcNo. Apocalypse will happen three years after end of CS4.
>>253534995Good. Living in that world isn't actually living at all. You just bide your time until you can show up in some capacity in future games in the exact same state as your last appearance. Sure, you may look different, but you're still the exact same character, like you haven't existed at all in the interim.
>>253535157Next Arc is East Calvard. I think in this Arc will be very little old characters.
>>253533667>He prefers off-screen character development to on-screen character development>Literally arguing for lazy writing used by series when they've run out of ideas>Just do a big time skip and change everyone's character!What a fucking nigger.
>>253535753>He prefers off-screen character development to on-screen character developmentWhen years go by and NOTHING has happened, then something is wrong, retard. Jumping ahead in time allows them to at least attempt to come up with some form of personal progression for them. On-screen is just the events of a game over the course of a few months, and even then jack shit happens.
>>253535895>years go byMost Trails time jumps are EXTREMELY short for that particular reason. Before CS3 the longest jump was 6 months. CS3 is just 1 year. In that time most of the characters have gotten careers and even some background characters (like Alan and Bridget) have advanced their relationships. So no, I don't really agree with you. This isn't Naruto shippuden shit where they shoehorn in a timeskip to shake up the formula. The whole point of Trails is you SEE most of what happens. That's what makes it a consistent world.
>>253532191For me, it's dying Millium!
>>253538254>The whole point of Trails is you SEE most of what happensYet what you DON'T see doesn't happen, nor do the people you don't see exist until they show up again in future games, at which point, seemingly nothing has occurred in their life since their original appearance. Characters like Bridget and Alan don't count, as that is a subplot of Cold Steel, not something that was written to have dynamically happened off-screen. What about the rest of the universe? For a setting that's so fleshed out, it sure as fuck feels completely static, like the people living there don't get to exist when they're not on-screen or make a return in a later game.
". Once again their plans were stopped by Class VII, who happened to be there at the time."Quality writing.
>>253538774>tfw those npcs you did that love letter quest for in fc are probably still not back togetherhaha...
>>253533667>our fanbase is exclusively incels/waifufags and shipfags so we can't risk pairing anyone up or offending the people who buy our low effort kusogeHaha, that's our Falcom... :3
>>253539251Yet nobody is mad about Estelle/Joshua
>>253539284It couldn't possibly be because that was basically the main focus of FC/SC and was built-up throughout. No one's mad about Olivert/Schera for the same reason. Waifufags just write them off as used goods or trash and focus on other characters instead.
>>253539552>>253539284>what is the joshua eunuch/micropenis memeH-he can't possibly dick mai waifu guys!Not that he actually does because Falcom LOVES their innocent childs point of view relationships.
>>253539715>LOVES their innocent childs point of view relationships.Why is Japan so schizophrenic when it comes to shit like this? It's either hand holding shit like this, or it's some deprived sexual deviant shit. Why is there no middle ground and why can't Japan into romance?
>>253538774>like the people living there don't get to exist when they're not on-screen or make a return in a later game.For another example, look at Rean's speech when he says he'll bring back Crow no matter what. Funny how he mentions all the people Crow affected/touched when he damn well knows that should also include the injuries or casualties Crow racked up as C, but like you said; they're not onscreen, so they may as well not exist.
>>253540004Kiseki is 100% written in tunnel vision.
>>253519162Thanatos is a pure Daddy not a scumbag
>>253540004There's a much more obvious, glaring flaw:In Ao, the cast says “they can't bring themselves to hate [Mariabell]”. After she, you know, tried to brainwash KeA and almost killed Ian.Excuse me, but what the fuck?Nobody in the cast is ever held accountable for anything, either.Randy used to be a jaeger and almost certainly killed a fuckton of people? Nobody cares to actually bring this to trial, apparently.Renne took the life of dozens if not hundreds? Meh, old news, no ned to actually do anything about that.Joshua is a known murderer? Nope, nothing.Please, Falcom, just stop.
>>253540490Things only have consequences when Falcom feels like it.
>>253540490I've heard the argument that you should already know what Trails writing is like going in, and I understand, but there are certain times where the writing pushes even that to the breaking point; like yeah, you know what Kiseki is like, but Falcom will throw in an event that makes you roll your eyes because it's questionable even by their own series standards (The scene from Ao, Crow, Obahan's end...)
>>253540490Randy and Renne are both shit characters for this reason. Joshua is forgivable since he was literally brainwashed
>>253540490NOOOOOOO!You can't criticize Ao!!!!!It's against the /fg/ ruuuuuuules!
>>253540490not sure hoe this relates to timeskips though... unless they made another game set in liberl it would be hard to show how every npc has moved on and developed, we still get to see all the main characters as well as some secondary ones.
Wait, hold up. Consider this. Space Trails. Uchu no Kiseki.
>>253534771Sure they do. In Japan.
>>253543029I think he's just responding to the old line about how Crow doesn't have to pay for what he did (usually with the assumption that it was worse than what we saw) when in fact that's a standard issue with all the games. I think Crow actually got more punishment than most in the sense that he was actually killed as a direct result of what he did, and he only got to keep living some kind of normal life because he helped save the world as a zombie.
>>253544793>usually with the assumption that it was worse than what we sawThat's a far safer assumption than assuming he took full measures to ensure no one ever got hurt or killed during his operations and that said measures were 100% effective.
>>253542981calm you tits sentard
>>253545402Is it? Any particular evidence you base that on?
>>253545402It's a pretty big stretch of logic, especially when his big plan was the 911 a tower, a tower which actually had his friend inside mind you. If he's not afraid to murder Towa for his cause I don't think it's unfair to assume he'd be willing to kill a bunch of randos.
>>253545910That wasn't actually the plan though. That was explicitly stated by someone who was in a position to know what the goal was.
Why are Senfags so agitated lately?
>>253546093It wasn't, but the odds of no collateral damage/injuries being part of his mission... I mean, if I had to pick between none at all and some, I'd go with some.
>>253546749Oh, there's definitely collateral damage. For me, I can accept that the series generally treats soldiers and mercenaries as fair game that anybody can nuke, but it's still kind of stupid that nobody ever gets particularly worked up about it. In Erebonia's case, it seems like all blame gets pushed onto Cayenne and a few of the ringleaders since they made the real decisions and bankrolled everything, but it should at least cause some concern amongst friends of the people who carried things out. In the case of Crow's group, a lot of these people were suicidal. Even Crow could probably be lumped in with them, going by some of his comments. But this is a Japanese game, so that all gets ignored too. Crow's event in IV where he goes to check in on people was surprising because it was someone making an effort to care for the troops for once.
>>253549192Adol took Estelle's virginity.
>>253540490Good luck trying to arrest Randy
>>253549192Adol vs anyone in Kiseki is hilarious. Dude cuts down thousands of enemies and even gods without mercy, all single-handedly. When he kills something, it explodes into a pile of blood and gore and he doesn't even blink.
>>253553074Does this mean Mishy is native to that island?
>>253513186Good night, I'll take good care of Rean!
>>253553810Why is she blushing?Why is she laying down like that?What the fuck is on her stomach?Why are there hearts around her?Why is she giving me that look?
>SC>great>Ao>great>cs2>horrible abomination of a game>cs4horrible abomination of a gameFunny how the second games used to be the peak of each arc, and now they're the low point of the entire series.
>>253554160>cs4 is so horrible it didn't even deserve its own meme arrowpottery
>Funny how the second games used to be the peak of each arc, and now they're the low point of the entire series.this is true, but cs4 isn't a second game
>>253554392It is, though. CS3 and 4 may as well be considered its own duology. It starts off on its own and then sets up a sequel, using the same assets.
>>253554160>sc>greatlolIt's literally a test run. It has all the same problems as 2 and 4 except even worse.
>>253554570I guess Tokyo Xanadu and CS1&2 make up another duology considering CS1&2 starts on its own, then sets up a sequel using the same assets.
>>253555083I think your brain may not be fully functional, anon. It's obvious to most people that CS1/2 and CS3/4 come in pairs.
>>253556297With SC not being nearly as ASS as those two games.
>>253556427Why would I need to cope with an obvious falsehood?
>>253555960I'm just using the same logic to show how absurd it is. It's not hard to be right for the wrong reasons. Then you go on to evoking Argumentum ad populum -fallacy.
>>253556536Don't you see that what you're doing right now is coping with the fact that those two games are ass while SC isn't?
>>253556735That's not true, so I don't particularly need to cope with it. It looks more like you're having trouble coping with reality and are attempting to force the same meme you've been pushing ineffectually for years.
>>253556725No, you're not using the same logic. At all. The fact that you think so suggests that you must have a double digit IQ. Like stated previously, CS1/2 and CS3/4 come in pairs. This is a fact, and thus each second game is judged as a sequel, similar to SC/Ao. Bringing up TX at all and attempting to find a correlation using the same "logic" just makes you come off as a dumb dumb.
>>253556818Of course you're the LE BOOGEYMAN guy. You do realize that what you're saying goes both ways and that the general consensus is that Sen 2 and 4 are the worst games in the series, while SC is one of the best, right?
>>253557652It's nice that you're not even bothering to pretend you aren't the same person. Not that there was any danger of you fooling anyone with how obvious you are.
>>253557217>No, you're not using the same logic.>CS3 and 4 may as well be considered its own duology. It starts off on its own and then sets up a sequel, using the same assets.>Tokyo Xanadu and CS1&2 make up another duology considering CS1&2 starts on its own, then sets up a sequel using the same assets.Tokyo xanadu uses assets from CS1&2 therefore every piece of the logic stated above is equivalent. Therefore I am using the same logic.I'll ignore your Ad hominem and once again remind you that "It's obvious to most people that CS1/2 and CS3/4 come in pairs." is Argumentum ad populum -fallacy.Therefore you haven't provided anything I haven't disproved regarding CS1/2 and CS3/4 coming in pairs.
>>253557825It's hilarious how deluded you are, anon. I bet you've called hundreds of people the same anon of the years. What you're doing right now is unironically coping, which makes this even funnier.
>>253557975No, just you. Since it's always you.
>>253557950Don't be an idiot, anon. The argument is that the second game in each arc consists of assets from the first game, but in the case of Sen 3, it's not only made out of new assets, but takes place a year after the previous two games, which concluded its story already. CS4 is a sequel to CS3, consisting entirely of its assets and serving as the second game in what is essentially the second half of an arc. There's no correlation between TX and CS1/2, and the fact that it uses assets from those games has nothing to do with it. Use your brain please. When you encounter people this stupid, it's impossible not to incorporate a little bit of ad hominem into a response.
>>253558027Believe what you want, mental illness-kun. I've seen you confuse other people for this boogeyman of yours as well, so it's nothing new.
sen is shit
>>253558398uh huhEven though I didn't even specify who you were since there are multiple long-running memes in these generals. You volunteered that information when you chose to deflect in the same way you always do.
>>253558498Mental gymnastics, anon. You've been sperging at me, calling me your boogeyanon for several posts now. Keep going, though. It's fairly entertaining, especially when it has no basis in reality.
>>253558671You're the only one calling you a boogeyman, anon.
>>253558939Nope, that's your implication. That I'm THE guy always doing whatever you think the perceived agenda is. You're mentally ill.
>>253559180You'd be more convincing if you just said you were a different anon instead of pulling out these studiously casual denials and insults.
Post a party with a better smell
>>253559272I'm not concerned with convincing anyone, especially not you. You think what you want, meanwhile I'll continue laughing at your obvious mental illness.
>>253559378You brought it up, man. I was happy to have a conversation about the games, but you decided you had to change the subject to how you totally weren't somebody. You're obviously very concerned about it or you wouldn't still be insisting on it and insulting me.
>>253558421I like sen
>>253558243I invoke TX because it's a suitable product to prove your line of logic absurd, forcing you to adapt something more sound or accept that TX and CS1/2 are a duology (which you obviously aren't and shouldn't do.)I know exactly what you are saying and implying, but there are crucible flaws in your arguments which, by conducting this discussion, I am hoping you will be able to notice and fix.You're making this division based on an arbitrary choice: assets, and from the notion that the story would somehow be concluded already. The assets part still remains untackled (I recommend dropping this argument until you find a counterargument to TX.) What story do you argue exactly that concluded and why would it be important enough to base the division between the two supposed duologies on? Or is it the timeskip alone? There were some months between Zero and Ao for example, why would those months not be relevant while the time between CS2 and CS3 would be?Don't presume anything as obvious. I will poke holes and question every bit of your argument.
>>253559445Read your own post. >>253556818The implication is that I'm somehow the person you're referring to (which is very clearly inherently multiple people, since the very prospect of a MEME being pushed by one person doesn't compute), I.E, your boogeyman. You're the one who started pushing this agenda in the first place.I'm not insulting you as much as I am making objective observations.
>>253559375t. didn’t see hachiyou’s sets
>>253559834Yeah, it's clear you're trolling at this point.Fact: CS1/2 and CS3/4 come in pairs, making CS4 CS3/4's SC/Ao/CS2, meaning you can compare it to those games, and of which it is the absolute worse. Bringing up TX in any capacity is irrelevant, and shows you fail to understand the point. Dumb dumb.
>>253559893You're a person who's been pushing something for years. The idea that you are the only person in these threads who's been saying the same thing for years is absurd. But you then chose to make a big production about how you absolutely were not the person who always reacts in the precise way you then proceeded to react.
>>253559893>not knowing what trying to force a meme is
>>253560064Great way to remain ignorant is to ignore all debate and declare yourself right.
>>253560328There's no debate. You made a stupid response to a straight forward post and have continued to showcase your own stupidity. No amount of wordplay and perceived intellectual wankery will ever make you come off as anything other than an idiot in this argument, anon.
Every kiseki game that English speakers can play is shitEvery game only jap anons can play is kino
>>253560075>You're a person who's been pushing something for yearsHow so? You've seen someone post something similar in the past and are making connections where there are none, I.E, responding in the way a mentally ill person would. I'm not even normally a regular here and only visit when I actively play Falcom games, though one thing I have noticed over the years is that you people keep accusing each other of being this boogeyman you always go on about. The fact that I've been accused of being this person is absolutely hilarious to me.
>>253560450I'm sorry you have chosen to remain ignorant. May you find peace and happiness in your ignorance.
>>253560874Quite the opposite. I see things clearly and acknowledge your stupidity, unlike you.
>>253560740>tfw been accused of being an xshill>tfw been accused of being a nishill>tfw been accused of being a redditor>tfw been accused of being a a discordtranny>tfw been accused of being the bogeymanhaha...
>>253561739>curated store>still has an overwhelming amount of steaming garbage>even the old wizardry games are on the platformMust be an especially shit game or a horrible port if they were denied.
>>253561220>Quite the opposite.You backed down and declared yourself right. If you had arguments to push on with, surely you would've presented them, no? Therefore there's no reason to believe you possess the necessary information to present aforementioned arguments, nor the notion of seeing things clearly. Therefore you are ignorant by textbook definition. You go on to label things stupid arbitrarily which boils down to classic Ad hominem and serves no value.
>>253562082I am right. CS4 is CS3/4's SC/Ao/CS2, thus it is comparable to those games, which is and has always been the point, which you've failed to comprehend from the start and instead chose to go on this objectively retarded tangent of yours. Not only is this EXACTLY the case, but CS3/4 follow the same development cycle seen in FC/SC (eventually 3rd), Zero/Ao and CS1 and 2, making them even more comparable in that context. Please, use your brain. You have the vocabulary, but there's seemingly nothing else functional in that head of yours.
>>253561907Does it look that bad?
>>253562548>I am right.argumentum ad auctoritatem. Fallacious argument once again. Isn't the first time, but I didn't point it out couple messages ago. I should have. Thus the argument is empty, without content. It is simply an unproven statement.>CS3/4 follow the same development cycle seen in FC/SC (eventually 3rd), Zero/Ao and CS1 and 2, making them even more comparable in that context.So development cycle decides duology-status then? First of all you haven't provided any evidence whether they follow the same development cycle and second there's the questionable presumption of it mattering at all.Rest of your paragraph is directed to me, which has no value at all. It's not me you're arguing, it's the argument and that doesn't advance it at all.
I thought this was Falcom general not XSEETHE general
>>253540490>Randy used to be a jaeger and almost certainly killed a fuckton of people? Nobody cares to actually bring this to trial, apparently.>Renne took the life of dozens if not hundreds? Meh, old news, no ned to actually do anything about that.>Joshua is a known murderer? Nope, nothing.I mean, all of those were literal child soldiers who were forced into it, but sure.
>>253563428Yep, those games were all developed back-to-back, thus are eligible for comparison as second games. The original post specifically compares each of the "second" games in these cycles, and has always been what we've been talking about. It's not hard to understand, and you know damn well what the argument has been from the start, yet you've chosen to ignore it, because realistically, there is no response you can make that doesn't make you look stupid.It seems you've already internally acknowledged your defeat and are simply coasting, pumping out irrelevant post after irrelevant post, attempting to save face.
>>253563235Looks like Wizardry 8, but low budget as fuck with a MS Paint UI.
>>253563886>The original post specifically compares each of the "second" games in these cycles, and has always been what we've been talking about.Now we're moving to more productive direction, but a small correction: Second game in context of the arc ("second games used to be the peak of each arc".) The arc in question consists of 4 games so far and you're arbitrarily dividing it in two simply because they were developed back-to-back.>you know damn well what the argument has been from the start Don't assume, but probably>yet you've chosen to ignore itNot ignore but refute, except for the ones you haven't explicitly presented>because realistically, there is no response you can make that doesn't make you look stupid.What are you basing this argument on?>It seems you've already internally acknowledged your defeat and are simply coasting, pumping out irrelevant post after irrelevant post, attempting to save face.Don't assume. I haven't acknowledged any perceived victory nor defeat regarding this argument as I'm not even viewing this as a competition.
>>253565124>The arc in question consists of 4 games It does, and no one has said otherwise. However, CS3 and 4 were developed back-to-back years later, again, making CS4 comparable to the rest of the "second" games as previously stated, I.E, SC/Ao/CS2. These are facts. What exactly are you sperging about again? You're not refuting anything, you're nitpicking semantics because you were wrong from the get-go.I'm not going to address the rest of this mess, as it doesn't pertain to anything and is simply intellectual peacockery. You should take the L and move on.
>>253565908>However, CS3 and 4 were developed back-to-back years later, again, making CS4 comparable to the rest of the "second" games as previously stated, I.E, SC/Ao/CS2.So your completely dropping the relation to the arc and sticking with the back-to-back development dictating whether a game is a second game compared to the previous one? I disagree on the notion of comparability. Does your definition of comparability rely entirely on being back-to-back developed? In what way can you compare already previously determined aspects like the overarching story when it doesn't rest on back-to-back development?
>>253567026The point has been made over and over. If you still can't understand it, the fault lies with you. I'm sure every other person in this thread can see and understand the comparison of CS4 with the rest of the "second" games in the series. Its number in the arc doesn't matter. Fact is, just like CS2 was part of CS1's development cycle using the same pool of assets, as is the case with CS3 and 4.I'm not sure if I'm being trolled or not, but at least it takes no effort to respond when I don't have to make things up or use mental gymnastics along the way.
>>253567889>The point has been made over and over.The point I put into question?>If you still can't understand it, the fault lies with you.Questioning a point, asking your thought process behind it does not equal not understanding it.>I'm sure every other person in this thread can see and understand the comparison of CS4 with the rest of the "second" games in the series.Argumentum ad populum -fallacy again.>Its number in the arc doesn't matterElaborate.>Fact is, just like CS2 was part of CS1's development cycle using the same pool of assets, as is the case with CS3 and 4.That is true and I agree. You haven't established relevance of being able to compare games developed in this manner which was the point of my previous post.
>>253568476>The point I put into question?Of course. You're basically just repeating "why?" over and over despite having being given reasoning and answers time and time again.>Questioning a point, asking your thought process behind it does not equal not understanding it.You should be able to infer all of that from what has been posted. You choose to ignore it and continue repeating "why?">Argumentum ad populum -fallacy again.Just because you stand out as an utter retard doesn't make it so. Observation, not ad hominem, so save yourself the trouble of repeating that for the hundredth time.>Elaborate.There's nothing to elaborate on. The games were developed together, thus the second product is comparable to the other second games that were developed together, especially when the pattern has been that the second games have been the best games, giving even more reason to compare them.>That is true and I agree. You haven't established relevance of being able to compare games developed in this manner which was the point of my previous post.You just can't see it, and this is another one of those immature "why?" responses.You're making an argument out of something that doesn't need to be argued about for no apparent reason and completely running it into the ground.
>>253569142>Of course. You're basically just repeating "why?" over and over despite having being given reasoning and answers time and time again.You're the one trying to establish something. I'm playing devil's advocate to guide your argument in rational way.>Questioning a point, asking your thought process behind it does not equal not understanding it.You're assuming you provided all the relevant information.>Just because you stand out as an utter retard doesn't make it so. Observation, not ad hominem, so save yourself the trouble of repeating that for the hundredth time.You using it as an argument makes it so by definition.>There's nothing to elaborate on. The games were developed together, thus the second product is comparable to the other second games that were developed together, especially when the pattern has been that the second games have been the best games, giving even more reason to compare them.See my reply 2 posts ago.>You just can't see it, and this is another one of those immature "why?" responses.You're the one trying to establish something. I'm playing devil's advocate to guide your argument in rational way.
What is this I don't even
>>253569825Sounds computer generated
>>253569740>You're the one trying to establish something. I'm playing devil's advocate to guide your argument in rational way.Not really. There's nothing to establish. The comparison is straight forward, and anyone who's not a complete autist can see it.>You're assuming you provided all the relevant information.You're assuming an excessive amount of information is required to make basic statements and comparisons, and reasoning has been provided over and over. This leads back to you going "why?" like a 12 year old.>You using it as an argument makes it so by definition.It hasn't been part of the argument itself, just an obvious observation that keeps coming up, because you're very clearly a toxic, obnoxious and unintelligent individual.>You're the one trying to establish something. I'm playing devil's advocate to guide your argument in rational way.There's nothing rational about the way you've been conducting yourself. The nature of the original statement doesn't require any of this autism, let alone a vast amount of information when you can clearly see where the comparison is coming from.>>253569825You tell me. This guy is so upset that people compare CS4 to SC, Ao and CS2 because it's a second game. Look at him sperg. Look and laugh.>>253570014I hope. No one can be this stupid/stubborn.
I'M GOING TO DOI'M GOING TO COMPARE AND RANK ALL THE SECOND GAMESI WILL>ao > sc > cs2 > cs4
Why does no one in the kiseki series seem to be held responsible for their actions?Joshua tried to murder Cassius Bright and instead Cassius takes pity on him? Renne murders how many and Estelle wants to adopt her? Crow shoots Reans real father and Rean still wants to “bring him back?”I like the series but come on
MURDER GOODSEX BAD
>>253570520The power of friendship. Nameless victims mean nothing, and things are written to be ignored and forgiven. The writers operate in tunnel vision. Just play the game and take everything at face value.
>>253570213>Not really. There's nothing to establish. The comparison is straight forward, and anyone who's not a complete autist can see it.I already pointed out a definite fault in it 3 posts ago.>You're assuming an excessive amount of information is required to make basic statements and comparisons, and reasoning has been provided over and over.If they're basic statements and comparisons I trust you can show that using up to first-order logic like prepositional logic.>It hasn't been part of the argument itself, just an obvious observation that keeps coming up, because you're very clearly a toxic, obnoxious and unintelligent individual.Then it is an unnecessary part of the conversation that doesn't contribute to anything and thus should be omitted.>There's nothing rational about the way you've been conducting yourself. The nature of the original statement doesn't require any of this autism, let alone a vast amount of information when you can clearly see where the comparison is coming from.It clearly does as I pointed out, yet unanswered mind you, a clear fault in it 3 post ago.
>>253570834And it's been answered. You're nitpicking semantics. Because CS4 is not called CS2, it can't be considered the second game of a development cycle and be compared to the other games that were developed in the same way, with similar circumstances and positions within each arc? Anyone will tell you that the Erebonia arc was split in two, with the second half focusing more on wrapping up the overarching plot developed over the course of all the previous games. Viewing CS4 as a second game and consequently comparing it to the other ones is a completely rational thing to do and requires no autistic argument. You have no self awareness.
>>253570520Pictured here might be the most ironic moment in the entirety of CS.
>>253572367T U N N E LV I S I O N
Haha...we’ll have Crow graduate and pay back his 50 Mira + interest...IMAAAAAAA WAKAAALAAY NOO TOKEEEE
>>253572367Seifer in FF8 had an equally retarded character arc. He was responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of people by activating the Lunar Cry, yet he's completely forgiven and seen roaming freely with his friends and having a good time in the ending. The Lunar Cry is just the worst of his crimes as well. He spearheaded the all-out war between Galbadia and Balamb Garden, killing countless people on both sides. Even former fellow students.
>>253571456Viewing CS4 as a second game and consequently comparing it to the other ones is a completely rational thing to do and requires no autistic argument. You just paraphrased what you said before.>Anyone will tell you that the Erebonia arc was split in twoJust like every other arc. I'll throw you a bone as you explicitly mentioned the split. Actually Erebonia arc was split in two times more (for different reasons, mostly unforeseen in the development). (CS1/2)/(CS3/4) with CS1/2 having the content of a "first game" and CS3/4 having the content of the "second" game.Looking development Point of View, isn't it closer to compare CS3/4 as the "second game".
>>253572819>You just paraphrased what you said before.And that is all that is required. There is no argument, and there has never been a need for one. This has simply been a showcase for your ultimate spergout. Why? That's something only you can answer.>Looking development Point of View, isn't it closer to compare CS3/4 as the "second game"Nope, the padding is deliberate. CS1 and 2 contained a story that was mostly resolved within those games and allowed for a time skip in the third. Whether you consider those games complete is a different argument entirely. CS2 and CS4 are still "second" games, just like SC and Ao, and thus comparable.
>Emma and Vita slept in the same roomimagine the amount of masturbation
>>253573312Kiseki characters don't even have vaginas.
>>253573612Renne does at least
>>253573308Nope, the padding is deliberate.I never said it wasn't. I also fail to see how it's relevant on the argument of "second" games. Quality of the games is whole another matter that can be discussed next.>CS1 and 2 contained a story that was mostly resolved within those games and allowed for a time skip in the third.So do FC and Zero. Now the argument returns to the length of time skips again.>Whether you consider those games complete is a different argument entirely.I agree.>CS2 and CS4 are still "second" games, just like SC and Ao, and thus comparable.No they aren't and they shouldn't.
Kiseki will end with Rean and Crow becoming super ogres and fighting a giant space lizard with dad rock playing in the background screencap this post
>>253573958>I also fail to see how it's relevant on the argument of "second" games.You're the one who brought it up by implying the games were incomplete, and I'm telling you it's a standard Falcom business practice to make the most of their assets. CS1 and 2 are two seperate game from the same development cycle, and I brought up CS3's time skip to further drive the point home that CS3/4 is essentially new duology, despite the numbering.>So do FC and Zero. Now the argument returns to the length of time skips again.SC and Ao are essentially direct sequels that were developed back-to-back. CS3 and 4 were developed from the ground up years after CS1 and 2.>No they aren't and they shouldn't.Yes, they are, and you absolutely can compare them in this context. Just like SC, Ao and CS2, CS4 builds entirely off of its direct prequel and concludes its plot in the back-to-back developed game.
>>253574136Sounds like the direction the series is going in, so I believe it.
>>253574136I mean, I can actually see it happening.
>>253574636>>253573958By the way, I'm so done with this argument. It's run its course, and you simply refuse to see things as they are and just repeat yourself over and over to no end. Just because you can't comprehend an obvious comparison doesn't mean no one else can. Either way, I'll spare /fg/ the torment of watching you shit up the thread with this non-argument and stop responding after this post.
>>253574636>You're the one who brought it up by implying the games were incompleteIndividually yes.>and I'm telling you it's a standard Falcom business practice to make the most of their assetsOf course.>CS1 and 2 are two seperate game from the same development cycleOnly if you tunnel-vision into the development cycle. The actual story told and Falcom's original plan imply otherwise.> I brought up CS3's time skip to further drive the point homeArbitrary timeframe.>SC and Ao are essentially direct sequels that were developed back-to-back. CS3 and 4 were developed from the ground up years after CS1 and 2.Stories the games tell say otherwise.>Yes, they are, and you absolutely can compare them in this context. No they aren't and they can't. Just like SC, Ao and, CS3/4 builds entirely off of its direct prequel (CS1/2)
anyone else find it funny how far xseed feel since BIGGEST DUBunlucky
How come Falcom can't 3D
>>253575570The BIGGEST DUB EVER killed them. /fg/ memed it into existence.
>>253575638those niggas are just as bad
>>253575638They're not Idea Factory levels of low budget, but Falcom feels a lot like they've got better 2D artists than they do 3D. A lot of Jap devs are bad at 3D, just look at Inti Creates, but Falcom is so budget that almost every single cutscene of TX or CS feels like it has some fade to disguise the lack of an animation somewhere.
>>253575638Sen 3 and 4 are still better looking than they would have if they hadn't outsourced the 3D models to some Chinese or Korean sweatshop. You can find western indie devs with better animating and modeling skills than what Falcom has. They're still making a lot of money off of Ys and Kiseki, so they should be able to do better than what get.
COLD STEEL 3 CANCELLED LMFAOKISEKI DEAD IN THE WEST GG
>>253576238The best part is how the 3D models STILL look like ass in those games. The anatomy is all over the place, and the animations still make them look ridiculous when they aren't completely freeze framed.>>253576579Pretty sure NISA operates independently, just like XSEED does. Either way, this could explain why some NIS games have been delayed, like the sequel to Coven.
>>253576579WE'RE GONNA WIN XSEEDBROS! WE'LL BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY!
>>253576579>NIS is dead.>their other big moneymaker Danganronpa is dead and any potential future projects would be done by Spike Chunsoft's western branch anyway>CSIII will flop like all western Trails games.NISAbros...
>>253577320>XSEED is also dead>no one else wants falcom licensesHaha... JOPs win again... :3
>>253576579>not forced to waste resources localizing nis indie #1231fucking based
>>253577724NOOOOOOOOOOOBUT I WANT THE BLIND PRINCE AND THE FAGGOT PRINCESS 2
>>253577285This. /fg/ shitposting is way better when we don't know if something is getting localized or not for years and years.
just downloaded xanadu next, anything I should know about it before jumping in?
>>253577387JOP lost the moment they showed how butt devasted they were by the spreadsheet.
NISA was basically the only profitable part of NIS. Haha...
>>253578292this seems to happen to NIS every couple years and they always bounce back, i wouldn't be too woried
How do you play VM in sen 4? I keep unlocking people but I don’t know how to start matches
>>253576579>>253578292>>253577320The first sign NIS was dying was this honesty. Hope they become Nihon Falcom of America for laughs
>>253578415The only thing that saves them is Disgaea, and 6 is no where to be seen. 4 and 5 saved them each time from financial collapse.
If NISA and XSEED both collapse who will pick up the mantle?
>>253570520Joshua and Renne were child soldiers kind of muddies the morality a bit.
>>253580371Atlus, but they'll only pick up Ys and Calvard
>>253580605Atlus only does sega games now
>>253578292NIS were basically going to fold before NISA saved their asses with Disgaea 5 on the Switch, then Ys8. Then further more with Coven selling a good amount of numbers. All that went to shit, NIS truly are the XSEED of JP
>>253580371When NISA takes the L, Aksys will the the W. Renne still takes the D.
Damn NISA rolls out the CASH
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wiO5InLaAAUThis fixes Tokyo Xanadu
>getting falcom games back and rune factory 5so this is the true power of xseed...
>persuade your president to get falcom games because theyre best friends>they die off a few months lately>become unshackled from nis indie shit>rename yourself to something cooler than NISAABSOLUTELY 4D CHESS
>>253580371Atlus. Japanese audio only. Making this series weeb again.
>>253583238>JP audio only>PS4 only, literally no point in hoping for a PC port unlike with NISAs muh timed exclusive>censored to hell>also takes longer than xseed and nisa combinedyes imagine the SALT
What difficulty should I pick for tokyo xanadu? Looking for something similar to ys oath & origin hard mode.
ty based NISA
WE ARE BACK BABY FUCK NISA
Can CS3-4 be regarded as the arc of Western Erebonia and CS1-2 as the arc of Eastern Erebonia?
>>253586958They can all be regarded as the shit games in the Kiseki series.
>>253586002Why? And what difficulty should I pick?
>>253585608Nightmare. TX has broken balance. You need only heals.
>>253587023>CS games suck REEEEEEEKay
>>253587936But TX has and broken dodges too. In Dark Souls easier dodges from bosses.
>>253587946Yeah, you said it.
Kiseki Series is similar to anime The Vision of Escaflowne. Watch it, kisekifan.
bros I'm halfway through the 2nd chapter in Zero and I only have two recipes. I've been talking to almost everyone. Why the fuck can't I find any?
>>253589196What, only every other episode is good?
>>253592263No. I mean stylistics, atmosphere and some characters. And this is also a magical techno fantasy with mecha.
>>253592897I have just got the first seven episodes. I will watch at least one of them at work tonight.
>>253591182Check some poster/books on the inns
>>253597386Korudu Sutiru 3
KeA saving the thread!
>>253597609Isn't it Sen no Kiseki instead of Korudo Stiiru Sree?
Imagine being brain dead enough to actually like S*nga's music
>>253599550Regenudo ofu hirosu: Korudu Sutiru Suri
Post cute cakes
Has Falcom released sheet music for any of their OSTs? Ys in particular
>>253603625That's not Elie
>>253603625>No EllieFuck dude... She didn't deserve that.
Will she ever find a boyfriend? mansluts like Rean need not to apply
Whats with teenagers in Japanese media being the most pure beings of all time? They don't expect me to believe that highschoolers don't have sexual appetites or won't drink when authority figures aren't around right? You're telling me that Rean is a literal chad that has bitches that want to fuck him and he's never met them but he's such a fedora tipper that he won't?
>>253608282>stereotypes and ideas pushed by consumer media are detached from realityHaven't you learned your lesson with Hollywood already?
>>253609342>Elliot>caught courting multiple girls by the end of 4>not a manslut in the making
No, Lechter, you are not going to defile my pure beautiful baby princess, eat shit
I had a dream I got to watch kiseki girls work out at the gym. There was altina, musse, juna and shirley there. It was pretty hot bros...
>>253609803Dont play CS3-4. Ok, maybe Crow?
Tfw no jaegar game
>>253610381This door story made me want to drop kick Lechter off the top of Liberl castle
>>253610381Don't worry. He's for Lucy anyway.
>>253611263haha imagine the smell
Lechter is so fucking shit>Act 2, had the opportunity to completely apprehend all members of class 7.>Teehee just holding back~If you’re going to make a character that’s supposed to be ridiculously intelligent only to have them job at every corner you may as well just had them be a dumbass.
>>253617182you forgot>crippling guilt
>>253617182I'm convinced that Lecter was a character who would have made way more sense if the series had stuck with its original plan and went from Liberl to Erebonia. That way, his arc would have been more immediately relevant to the story.
>>253525407It's so transparent that Io only exists because Falcom wanted to piggyback on Aoi Yuuki's popularity to promote the game.She is cute, though.
>>253620189>It's so transparent that Io only exists because Falcom wanted to piggyback on Aoi Yuuki's popularity to promote the game.There's nothing wrong with that
>>253620189Water is wet, the sky is blue, and Falcom are a bunch of sellouts. What else is new?
Your resistance only makes my penis harder!
>>253620709Calvard-anon is that you?
>>253620709>white girl and a spic and a nigger
Falcom can't keep cunnying away with it!
>>253625261Ys IX doesn't have cunny so they didn't
>>253582118This is why NISA probably won’t go away. I’d imagine another Japanese company would probably want to buy them out given they are one of the strongest niche localizers in the business. Or NIS pulls disgaea 6 out of their ass for their third Hail Mary Disgaea play
I'm to the part in Chapter 3 where I had to explore Geofront with Tio and LloydDoes anything happen soon or is it still more comfy police work
>>253625685>Kondo has been a good friend of the president of NIS for a long timeHoly shit will our madman Kondo-san actually do it?
>>253626034Nothing happens in Zero.
>>253626197>people wanted Falcom to have their own localization branch>gets this
Imagine being NTR’d by your own teacher
>it will be at least 3 years before we get another china man blind leaked speedrun of kisekiITS NOT FAIR BROS
>>253626197They complement each other pretty well
>>253448560Didn't Ys 8 sell more on Switch than Steam? And those are all full price sales.
>>253570520>Ian shoots Lloyd's brother yet forgives him and is appalled when Mariabell blasts Ian (not killing him though).>V and S murdered a shit ton of military personnel at Garrelia Fortress but Rean ends up being sad that V suicides himself and blames himself for not saving him while Scarlet goes back to the Gralsritter.>Richard attempts a coup because his idol Cassius Bright isn't in the military and is gonna militarize the entire country because of the threats of their neighbor but then turns out it was "lol brainwashing" and is pardoned by the queen and now has his own intelligence company that isn't part of the Liberl military force.>Cedric nearly commits murder yet is awarded with being able to maybe turn a lesbian straight and join a secret society. Sure he can't come back but his family still loves him either way.>Crow puts Rean in a coma yet Rean wants to bring Crow back to school by any means necessary.>George blows up the royal family vehicle, nearly killing the bastard royal prince that required him an eyepatch, a distinguished bracer, and the best swordsman in the country who already is suffering lung disease and then ends up missing his left arm yet backs out at the last minute by sparing them; and shoots his friend (not to death just like what Crow did to Rean at the end of CS1) and is easily forgiven by his friends.Yay forgiveness unless your name is Weissman, Joachim, and Duke Cayenne?
>>253574136At this point, anything goes with the series so I'd believe it.
>>253629508I was hoping Cedric and George would die, but I knew Falcom didn't have it in them.
If coldsteel had Ao’s orbment system and better difficulty balancing it would be one of the best jrpgs combat-wise from the past decade, up there with smt4a
I WANT SEN THE 5th WHERE WE MAIN CROW AND RIXIAAND PLAY THROUGH RICHARDS AND CASSIUS' DOORSIS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?
Ash is so fucking based.Reminder that lesbians don’t exist
>>253612635Nah, he's gay for Rean. Or rather, Rean's willing to suck his dick while the women in his harem are sucking off on his.>>253613409Boy if only we could visit those locations like North Ambria, Jurai, Aragorn Mines, anything in the southwest beyond Saint-Arkh, Parm, and Hamel.Legit I'm not gonna lie, I feel like you've explored way more of the eastern portion of CS1 and CS2 way more than the western portion with CS3 and CS4. Legit, we've never even visited the southwest portion of the game. I mean what's at the Olbia Lowland, the Malva Coast or even Grenville but instead we literally skipped that place via a secret route to instead go back to Leeves.
>>253629508I mean, Ian's still in prison for the rest of his life, as far as we know.
I want Sharon to sit on my face with full body weight
>>253626034Chapter 3 is where things start getting wild, desu.
CS3 at E3, doods. They'll probably announce the release date. We'll likely get to see some random NPC dialog and how consistent the spell and skill localizations are. Hopefully some Falcom autist gets to record some footage.
>>253630669>NahMachias or Kurt.
>>253631275They're probably showing off the same demo next week at London comic con
>>253631041Whatever his fate was is glossed over so badly because the ending was like "yeah, you guys got your KeA back, but Crossbell is still fucked because Crossbell is now under the Erebonian empire rule because you no longer have any protection from KeA's Demiurgos." But yeah, you might be right about Ian. Still though, Lloyd did just forgive him despite being the reason why his brother died. Sure it was because Ian wanted to rewrite Crossbell history to make sure what happened with his family and Lloyd's parents would never happen again but still.
>>253631275>E3NISA have invested heavily in this project. High risks.
>>253631751Just imagine if this is the year that CS3 somehow blows up in popularity thanks to NISA's shilling efforts at E3 and NIS fans looking for another series of games to latch on to thanks to a dying NIS.
>>253631751I think they KNOW that these games won't be highly profitable in themselves. The third and fourth games of an arc in a long running JRPG franchise isn't going to do very well. They're likely making most of their money off of Kiseki merchandise and stepped in to take the license now so they can work on the next arc from the start and give it the marketing it should've had from the start.
>>253631751theyre gonna make all their money off the LE's and the merchandise like shirts and shit theyre selling on their store, not the games themselves
>>253631751>shill CS3 every day>their other games in Fall (NIS' own Destiny Connect and Uta Zan) barely get any attentionBig dick NISA showing NIS how they treat their shitty game
>>253632184theyre giving attention to lapis x labyrinth which is out this monthi'm gonna nab that tbqh
>>253632304that looks really cute and i'm hyped for it too
>>253632016>so they can work on the next arc from the start and give it the marketing it should've had from the startDepending on how much baggage Falcom will be shoehorning in, this could be the one that makes the series blow up in the west. If NISA can provide a Switch port on day one and keep up their usual marketing, the first Calvard game could do Ys VIII numbers.
>>253632016>>253632083Is merch really so profitable?>>253632184They just release uninterested for west half-indie games.What about Caligula?>>253632016Good year.
>>253632631Next gen will be insane for Falcom and whoever publishes their games desuPS5 having full compatibility with PS4 is fucking huge>>253632737>What about Caligula?I played about 3 hours of it, the combat is the only interesting about it. The Switch version sucks balls, the PC port is decent.The translation was okay, it was handled by H2 interactive iirc, NISA just slapped their name on the loc & switch+pc ports, pretty sure they had nothing to do it with
>>253632631>a game in a niche, very long-running Japanese series of role-playing games which would require playing at least nine >60-hour games beforehand to get up to speed with it>a turn-based series at that>ever pulling Ys VIII numbers in the WestDoubt it.
>>253632737>Is merch really so profitable?That's always been something NISA makes a shitload of money off of. It's the reason they put so much effort into both separate merch and CEs.
>>253632184Destiny Connect was a huge flop in Japan, so they probably don't expect it to do well in the west either. I'm not sure why they're even bothering with Uta Zan, maybe Aquaplus made them license that too if they wanted the remake of the first game.
>>253632737>>Is merch really so profitable?YesNow buy a Rean shirtSean Chiplock gets 10% for every shirt sold, that's why he signed on with emhttps://vocaroo.com/i/s1s66TXXeOCz
>>253632887Sony's censorship aspect is going to be a pain in the ass for weeb game developers and their intended audience, though. Will Falcom stay with Sony, considering that, but also how the PSP saved them a decade ago when the PC market died in Japan?
>>253631665The Crossbell Archives say he gets locked up, IIRC. That's what I'm basing my statement on.
>>253633556I don't think it's that big of a deal, at least with Falcom and their games anyway... Not yet at least
>>253633715If they make it another harem arc with a focus on fan service, you can bet your ass it's going to get Snoy'd.
>>253539251>our fanbase is exclusively incels/waifufags and shipfags and that's why we made everyone gay or transHaha that's our progressive Western games industry
>>253633476>wearing shirts of video game charactersplease don't actually do this
>>253633952One isn't worse than the other. They're both terrible.
>>253633952God Rixia is beautiful.
>>253633795>Falcom forms a long-standing partnership with Sony after the PSP>Falcom decides to pimp out Kiseki with sexy harems and lewd high schools and chuuni LN-tier protagonists to get more shekels like always>it sells very well in the PS3 era, when gamers were starved for weeb games>Falcom decides to keep Kiseki in the pimped-out way it is>Sony implements censorship policies a few years later>Kiseki will get fucked over when the next game releases with censorship out the ass unless Falcom moves away from SonyHaha...
>>253634021>he doesn't put on Junas t shirt>When playing Junas game>While fapping to Juna feet
>>253633476merch is the lowest of efforts profit
>>253634271Girls from Kiseki are not fapable. And i am not gay.
>>253633715Sony hates anime now except if it's gacha, didn't you know?
>>253634460How does it feel to live with erectile dysfunction?
>>253634347They do have some nice merch, but it's expensive as fuck. The Rean/Altina giclée is nearly 300 bucks, while the key chains are nearly 100.
>>253634460>Girls from Kiseki are not fapable.gay
>>253634861read the second part retard
>>253634942Just because you say it doesn't make it true, gay.
>>253634783I haven't it.>>253634861No, i am not.
>>253634242Falcom is definitely not going to move away from Sony. Sony localizes all their games for China/Korea and helps them with marketing.
>started playing tokyo xanadu>got to electronics storehaha, that's our rean
>>253603625>ywn be Lloyd and lotion the fattest ass in Crossbellits not fair bros
>>253635438ive seen too many massage porn to see where this is going bros
>>253633556Censorship isn't that big a deal, most Americans support it. Society has changed. Besides PlayStation is still going to sell 100 million+ next gen. Nobody is going to drop it.
>>253635267>Sony>helping Falcom with marketingI haven't seen any Sony ads for Cold Steel, so I'm perhaps inclined to think they're XSEED-tier in terms of marketing. In any case, if they did it before, they're definitely not going to do it now thanks to nu-Snoy. I just want Falcom to be treated fairly after being so loyal, that's all.
>>253635762>XSEED-tier in terms of marketingSounds funny.
>>253635762I'm talking about marketing them for Japan and Asia, it's the western licensor's job to do the marketing in the west. Falcom also uses Sony's Phyre Engine for some of their games.
>>253635528>"Censorship isn't that big a deal">supporting censorship in any formThe absolute cucked state of Sonyfags
>>253636063>Falcom also uses Sony's Phyre Engine for some of their games.Not big deal.
>>253635438god i wish that was me
>>253637862What's Emma doing with her fingers bros.. L-l-lewd...
>>253638209just girl things
>>253638892You are under arrest.
>>253640746What are we gonna do on the bed?
>>253640894Making a Mildine spill her spaghetti.
>>253641420How did Juna get away with this?
>>253637930>>253641042Why does Falcom keep making great cakes and lolis but fuck up the rest of the dateable girls ?
>>253641780The benefits of being a MC despite it only lasting for the first act. She only learned from her maestro till he came back.
Hello, anons, this will be your cumrag for the evening. Please take off trousers, line up in rows of 8-10 and relax while she services your cocks and balls and brings you drinks, all on Reinford Co.
>>253634271>not using it as a cheap cumrag
This bond event was gunlord kino. Unironically one of the best characters in sen.
>>253643675>one of the best characters in sen.That's not saying much.
>hear news that Nippon Ichi or NISA's parent company is actually in serious financial trouble that can't pay their employees' salaries and get worker strikes over itI am starting to wonder if it's possible that the localization deal with Falcon might get broken if Nippon Ichi goes bankrupt. No, I'm not hoping for this to happen, but it seemed possible
>>253644065Clearly, Kondo became friends with the president of NIS years ago just to prepare for this very moment when Falcom would swoop in to buy NIS masquerading under an act of helping a friend out. Truly, Kondo-san has been playing 4D chess with Kiseki and NIS all along, how could we not see it coming?
>>253644564>>253644304Without Rean coldsteel bimbos wouldn’t last a second outdoors
>>253644304>>253644564Imagine if CS4 was a porn game.
>>253646078Kiseki would make an amazing porn game with its world building. The one thing this series needs is for people to die and people to fuck and it would be ridiculously immersive
>>253647027>Kiseki would make an amazing porn gameNot with everyone who would "hold back".
>>253647463Okay I laughed.
>>253647463>porn game with extreme edgingsold
>>253647027KeA and Shizuku gangrape scene by shotas when?
>>253649994>gangrapeYou know they would want it, the little sluts.
>>253649994Henry and Ryu would fucking destroy their cunnies
>>253649994>>253650440Only after Shin has had first dips
Shut the fuck up you dumb pedos.
>>253650912It’s not pedophilia if they’re both underaged. American middle schoolers fuck all the time
>>253651317Them fucking isn't pedophilia. You watching them is.
>falcom has a shitload of pedophiles in their fanbaseHaha...
>explosive fishing with demon prince reanhaha...But vantage master portable looks a lot nicer than the old one, too bad it's not translated
>>253652859It might've been eventually if Tom didn't leave XSEED, he was the evangelist for the older Falcom games.