Welcome to the Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic./sthg/ #1983 - Movie Edition>Thread theme<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFBa8rExpXQ >Sonic News<Sonic movie trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvvZaBf9QQISonic movie director says they'll "fix the design"https://twitter.com/fowltown/status/1124056098925944832Mario & Sonic at the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games to be released later this yearhttps://twitter.com/tssznews/status/1111807221548175360Mobile version of the game also to be releasedhttps://twitter.com/tssznews/status/1111807307221032960NDW's direct interview with TSR teamshttp://sonicjpnews.blogspot.com/2019/04/ndws-interview-to-tsr-teams-1-team-sonic.htmlhttp://sonicjpnews.blogspot.com/2019/04/ndws-direct-interview-with-tsr-teams-2.htmlhttp://sonicjpnews.blogspot.com/2019_05_06_archive.htmlhttp://sonicjpnews.blogspot.com/2019/05/ndws-direct-interview-with-tsr-teams-4.htmlTSR Overdrive Completehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgbngiiwihMTSR Team Up Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbTavayt8xoPreboot Sonic retroactively cucked by Ken Penders' self-insert skunk OChttps://twitter.com/KenPenders/status/1115328007357358081>General Interest Links<General Link Compilationhttps://pastebin.com/K8uHTWSG/sthg/ Drawfag Booruhttp://sthg.booru.org/sthg/ Cytubehttps://cytu/be/r/sthg (replace / between u and b with a dot)IDW Comicshttps://mega.nz/#F!65oBCaoQ!8lkn8JebzaZensDJbLxDegPrevious Zone:>>253327391
Second for thicc
>>253385550I don't need another reminder of this disgusting thing to come
>>253385628gay subservient clown
>>253385004cringe. they're cool and clearly more relevant than cream and the non vector chaotix
>>253385737I want to train Shadow as my gay subservient pet clown and make him perform humiliating lewd acts in public while dressed in clown makeup.
>>253385172>>253385329Not even 3, anon. Sonic 2.
thoughts on wisps?can they be good?
>>253385969Based Wisps are better than Chao in literally every way.
>>253385969At the end of the day, Wisps are basically powerups that are required to either complete levels or find secrets. They're a lot like powerups in Super Mario Galaxy: temporary gimmicks, not real upgrades.
S H A D A M Y
>>253386098are you thinking metroid-style upgrades?
>>253386193Those aren't temporary.
>>253386351rightyou said wisps were temporary gimmicks and not real upgradesi was just confused on what kind of upgrades you meant
>>253386429To be fair, it's been a while since I played Sonic 1, but you are right. Guess it's just more noticeable in the later games.
>>253384373I'll say this, it does look like a solid game for $30. I'm not as concerned about the characters for the sake of characters, but unless story mode only pits one team against another for the most part then seeing the same 9 or 12 characters almost all the time each race will get annoying. The voices are bad, the music is not consistently good like the previous two games, the dialogue while racing is bad but not even enjoyably bad, boost looks fun but the transformations are gone, Sonic is decapitated in his menu screen art, everything about it just feels low budget but with a suit and tie to make it look high budget enough in some areas to get people to buy it before they realize how mediocre it is. I don't really like Crash but after all the shilling and seeing some videos it looks like like a legitimate competitor to Mario Kart and seems to have a lot of love put into it. TSR has love in it, but only as much as it can afford which is part of its problem. I'm still getting both but I wish I could feel more excited for TSR.
>>253386472Different anon, anon. I am >>253386098.I think Wisps should be actual powerups you can carry with you permanently until you get hit, just maybe toned down so they're not broken. I also think they just shouldn't be Wisps, just put the powers themselves in capsules.
>>253385915>>253386429N-Nice Mania romhack!
>>253386574there are certain kinds of quirky challenges like those in transformed's campaignnot unlike traffic attack or ring race>>253386650going for the elemental shield approachits not bad but i think the more dynamic uses for wisps that allow new paths to be discovered are what made them uniqueif anything i'd like multiple wisps to become customizable parts of characters' movesets, allowing them to be activated at nearly any time so players can experiment with not only how they can synergize with each characters' movesets but how they can chain into each otheralso i think making wisps a species instead of just powerups opens up a new, if small, part of sonic loreeggy did say in unused dialogue that wisps were at least on par with chaos emeralds in terms of energy outputa suggestion supported by the fact that transformations are only powered by a small portion of the wisp's energy
Imagine being an Echidna.
>>253385915>>253386429The feeling of running upside down in general is exhilarating.
>>253387395>gay shadow>based knuckles
Sega hires you as a writer for the IDW Sonic comics and you get to confirm a character as gay, who would you confirm and why? Hard mode: Shadow can't be gay.
>>253388928I wouldn't do it because relationships, sexuality and identity politics do not belong in Sonic.
>>253388985Based and commonsense/voiceofreasonpilled
>>253388928None, instead, I'll make Shadow a trap since traps are not gay
>>253388985 Very based and redpilled of you Anon.
Sonic is a stillbirth of a franchise.
Sonic is a fairy of a hedgehog.
Sonic is gay.
Sonic is a franchise of a fairy.
Sonic is a stillbirth of a hedgehog.
Sonic is a fairy of a franchise.
Shadow is a gay fairy hedgehog
Sonic is... Heh, well, where do I begin? Suffice to say he had a rocky start in 3D...
Sonic is a rocky start of a franchise.
Sonic is a stillbirth of a fairy.
Sonic, dead or alive, is mine.
Sonic is a furry imbecile.
Sonic is a franchise of a furry.
sonic is a stupid furry.
Sonic is a stillbirth of a furry.
Sonic is a shitpost of Mario.
Sonic is a fairy of a shitpost.
Sonic is an imbecile of a hedgehog
Someone please help me find a better franchise to support.
Sonic is a stillbirth of a Mario.
Sonic is a big boy. He doesn't need to wear jeans, and he also wears T-Shirts to work. He has huge boobs, which makes the outfit a little bit more revealing and sexy. Sonic comes to work wearing pink flip flops with slicked, short hair and blue leotards. Sonic wears a tank top that has no buttons, because that's weird. Sonic is a big boy and needs to wear pink panties to work every day.
Sonic is a human wearing a fursuit.
>>253390225Spark the Electric JesterPlanet FreedomBubsy
>>253386826Sometimes I feel like i'm losing braincells when I post here. Like trying to decipher what he meant is making me dumber.
Real nigga hours
>>253390803Okay I'll admit it was pretty Stone Age tier, I meant to imply that the originals were romhacks of Mania which came after 4, explaining why you could have pics of classic Sonic running on ceilings from a game that isn't from before 4 like Mania. Damn, even explaining that makes me feel like I'm getting dumber in here.
What if, Shadow was gay?
>>253392286>Does Shadow is gay?
Shadow caught the gayfrom Maria
What would each character be flavored as? Hard mode: Cream isn't vanilla, Chocola isn't chocolate, and Shadow isn't semen flavored.
>>253392907Shadow is ass flavored because he licks ass
maria is dead lol
>>253393174Maria had a big dick lol
>>253394546time to get comfy
Sega of Japan should hit SoA with more mandates, no Big jokes, no SA3 jokes, no 06 jokes, and no Boom jokes for starters.Also stop saying Gotta Go Fast.
>>253395093Maybe some teeth cleaning mandates too
Expert mode looks fun.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyI1Pe6ZK-w
do you consider ray as part of the chaotix?
>>253396598Looks alright, don't see myself coming back to this as much as the first two Sonic racing or MK8.
>>253396883No, Chaotix is a trio.
>>253396883I dont think he ever was, but he should be, along with Mighty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC0bdTR2418No one stops Knuckles feat
>>253396540Why are Modern Knuckles and Modern Vector friends when Knuckles' Chaotix takes place in the classic dimension?
>>253397119a better question would be how they even know each other if chaotix was never canon to begin with?
>listening to giant bombcast>they say something about how they dont understand the use of gotta go fast by Sega in marketing>says it only really plays to people who hate sonic or thing its stupid comparing it to Nintendo advertising Metroid by saying "The Baby"
>>253397218Sure would love to find that out in a gam-OH WAITWe don't do continuity anymore because it's "cringe"
>>253397119Because canon is a fuck and Sega should just ignore it and start a new at this point.Not a full on reboot, but establish what is canon and what's not and just go from their, just start it out simpler, keep the basic stuff like knuckles and the master emerald intact, character like silver should straight up reintroduced.
>>253396598I like how you can literally see the track load in at around 3 minutes into the video.https://youtu.be/AyI1Pe6ZK-w?t=185
>>253397374>Not a full on reboot, but establish what is canon and what's not and just go from their, just start it out simpler, keep the basic stuff like knuckles and the master emerald intact, character like silver should straight up reintroduced.I've been saying this for a while, the actual context of these characters are a complete mess and it's not clear what history the characters have at all beyond vague relationship dynamics that don't even feel properly set up anymore.
>>253397469Didn't Sumo admit they really didn't put much effort into this port or something?
>>253397374You know what? If classic is an alt dimension, at this point you would have to explain everything like sonic met knuckles in the first place because they can't work off of classic kux, so reboot the entire modern canon as a whole, and reintroduce everyone, and then just remake SA&SA2 to for Shadow and such.I never thought a video game really needed a reboot, but sonic might an exception.Just keep basic character traits intact, and don't go full reset.
>>253397374Do you REALLY want the current Sonic people at Sega to reboot it? Think about it.
>>253397580>Just keep basic character traits intact, and don't go full reset.They are going to make everyone full on meme characters if the ever did something like that and you know it.
>>253397661Just let Sumo reboot it. Or Evening Star
>>253397661It's garbage either way, there is no winning situation.
>>253396883In the Archieverse yeah but in the "canon" of games no. More like Knuckles team in the past/multiverse and then the Team Chaotix spun off into their own thing in the future/multiverse.Off Topic:Being an old school gamer the classic vs new games being considered as multiverses sort of drive me crazy but fixes the canon unlike Archie's gene bombing and human civilizations hidden in a mountain. And RoboRobotnik changing into Eggman. Man, I really admire what Ian Flynn tried to fix.
>>253397929>but fixes the canonIt actively breaks the canon though.
>Team Sonic Racing's Grand Prix Cups end with this instead of an awards ceremony and podium animationEven the first All Stars Racing had them, just how low is the budget of this game?
>>253397929its actually a little funnyhow the classic and modern timelines/realities are given a reason to simultaneously exist isn't too far off from how endgame does its story
>>253398036It was rushed to all hell and back
>>253397661>>253397685I can always dream of quality
>>253397580I would assume they all met after numerous Eggman attacks but it would be nice to have flashbacks or something that shows how they all met.
>>253398036Delete this, TSR was supposed to BTFO MK8
>>253398089but it was delayed for several months
>>253398089Only other game I know delayed that close to launch was Rayman Legends and boy that was a shit show to the point where the dev team even supported a boycot.After all that work porting it still flopped
>>253398089GOTTA DEV FAST XD
>>253398015Except it fixes it.
>>253398148Those months were used to not make the game the Sonic 06 of Kart Racers. It looked like complete garbage last year.
>>253398190But it breaks it
>>253398036They could've atleast used new renders, but no, they just copy pasted the same exact renders that we were shown on the team posters.how lazy.
>>253398190It really doesn't.
>>253398148Around the time of the delay Sumo put out a shit ton of ads for positions that sound critical to make a racer.
>>253398226>>253398284How else do you explain the design change and humans suddenly existing in Adventure?>b-but man of the year and the OVA!Not canon and not an argument.
>>253398218When was the last time you weren't a degenerate?
>>253398156But Rayman Legends got a 90% on Metacritic and basically every review site. How did it flop?
>>253398332Eggman always existed and its facetious to assume that he is the only human around in the world of Sonic Just like it would be facetious to assume Sonic is the only anthropomorphic character in Sonic 1.
>>253398372>putting peanut butter on appleswat
>>253398354Sales for Rayman was really bad, and didn't justify the delay at the end.The delay was because it was a Wii U exclusive and like a few weeks before launch they delayed it so they could port it to PC, PS3, 360, and Vita.Fans were fucking pissed and canceled preorders and oddly enough ended up getting Monster Hunter instead which helped boost that games popularity different storyRayman came out and was killed by releasing right next to GTA5 and actually still ended up selling the most on Wii U, all the ports to PS4, Xbox one, and Switch didn't help and the Switch port it really fucking bad.
>>253398274Not even just that, it's their character select icons. Talk about your low budget flights.
>>253398354Videogame companies can't survive on good reviews, they need to actually sell their games.
>>253398494No animations or vfx? I'm outta here!I like CTR better.
>>253398462do you not do that?it's one hell of a synergy, dudedon't knuck it till you try it
>>253398494Atleast the cutscenes have different renders. I would've cried if they used the same renders for literally every static image in the game.
>>253398402But Tails is the only two tailed fox and that's alright to you? There's nothing wrong with thinking Eggman is the only human in Sonic's world.
>>253398635>But Tails is the only two tailed fox and that's alright to you?Is he?
>>253398635Tails should just get the extra tail removed
>>253398698The only repeated animal person we see is Amy as the second hedgehog, everyone else so far is the only one of their kind. No other humans, no other foxes, no other echidnas. It's just a simple game world with a loose continuity.
>>253398332I guess Pocket Adventure isn't canon?
>>253398876Not to classic.
>>253398945What the fuck indeed
>>253398945I bet silver get domed by blaze. haha
>>253398968Eggman is pretty fucking badass.
>>253398945Has to be Nega. Eggman can't send shit through time.
>>253398332This is why I never thought of modern Sonic being different from classic. When I first saw Station Square I just figured Eggman wasn't the only human. Makes sense. Did kind of wonder where all the zones and other anthropomorphic characters were in Sonic Unleashed though.
>>253398492I heard Origins flopped too. How do people have such shit taste? Those games are all I ever wanted for a modern 2D non-Sonic platformer.
>>253399190Sonic Unleashed clearly was a reboot.
>>253398945That's a lot more chill than his usual reason for coming back.>>253399060Holy fucking based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAHEgm88ew8What the fuck happened to Silver's voice? The new VA sounds awful compared to Quinton Flynn.
>>253399236>Unleashed retconned Knuckles' existence>Despite the story being all about Chaos Emeralds and mythology>Instead it have us Mr Pickles who only exist for comic relief and lore dumps Knuckles, Tails or perhaps Rouge could have provided
>>253398945Silver looks so fucking stupid holy shit, what an awful design
>>253399190>>253399236SA1, Heroes, 06, Unleashed, Colors, and Mania are all reboots.
>>253399307What the hell!?Silver sounds like a nerd from high school, the fuck? Does he have an inhaler as well?
Any info on how well the online mode works yet?
>>253399374I don't see how those are all reboots
>>253399307>Tanuki are notorious tricksters>Blaze is literally saying she wont race because she thinks all tanukis are badLMAO, BLAZE RACIST AF
>>253399307Holy fuck that voice. Also, I can't believe Blaze is racist.
>>253399558Are you dense? Granted some were softer than others, but still.SA1 redefined Sonic's world and the characters' personalities. Heroes completely changed the tone and gameplay and kept the story as light as humanly possible. 06 was just SA1 but with even more realism shoved in. Unleashed was its own story and kept the cast to a minimum by omitting almost everyone, it could technically not be a main game but it's production value is too high to consider it a side game. Colors was Unleashed's omittance of characters with Heroes' lack of plot, the ultimate clean slate of the bunch. Mania is a reboot only for classic, as it continues off of 3K in place of SA1 in classic's dimension. Some reboots didn't take because fans complained or because they were softer reboots that were meant to be good jumping on points while not contradicting what came before.
GOOD MOOOOOOOORNING /sthg/! Just wanted to remind you that we’re another day closer to Kid Chameleon (yes, THE Kid Chameleon from Kid Chameleon) getting confirmed in Team Sonic Racing! Make sure to save your tears for the upcoming DLC when Kid Chameleon walks into the spotlight.>B-BUT ITS ONLY GOING TO BE SONIC CHARACTERSYikes! That’s a large assumption. How can you assume a Sonic racer would only feature Sonic characters when an entire Sonic racing series featured not one, but three non-Sonic characters, twice! And with VectorMan and Ristar, two characters from other Sega classic games, that makes a team of three (or should I say, DLC pack)!>T-THEY'RE GONNA ADD CREAM INSTEADShe's not canon if you ask me, but feel free to continue your denial. Your tears of disappointment will be all the more sweeter!
>>253399412Dorky Silver is canon now, get over it.
>>253399991They can add whoever they want because I'm not buying it. I'll watch a let's play and be done with it
>>253399931Okay I could see Sonic Adventure but in Forces it references Chaos. Heroes just seemed like a change in gameplay since it still used characters from the previous games and they were obviously running around human bases.06 tried but rebooted itself but it didn't seem to change anything. Unleashed did feel out of place because of no previous zones and lack of animal friends.I can't count Colors because it was in space and in the handheld version all the previous friends are there. I wont count the new voice cast changes either. Mania just seems like a sequel.
>>253399991terrible kid chameleon render when?
>>253399931Also Shadow the Hedgehog takes place after Heroes.
Sonic is for bullying.
Cute hedgehog tails
Sonic canon shouldn't be like this.
>>253397374this, especially Silver's part. we need a new Sonic bible
>>253398036reminder nitro fueled has those>inb4 muh 30 fps
>>253398036I think most of the budget went into the customization and the music.
>>253401479I feel Sonic has more multiverses than TMNT at this point.
>>253398945have we got more pics of story mode?
>>253401856>>253399307seems most videos only show the first 20 minutes or so. they should've finished the game by now.
>>253399307HNNNNG HEARING BLAZE AGAIN MAKES AAAAAAAAA
>tfw finding out about the sonic world situationgeez im so glad I have you guys to talk about sonic with I cant imagine speaking to non-anonymous sonicfags
>>253400009He was always a dork but the voice sounds awful here.
>>253399991go back to your containment, smashfag
https://youtu.be/DAHEgm88ew8?t=182This might be one of the worst lines of dialogue I've ever heard Sonic say.
>>253401983Yeah this is pretty much the only place I can talk about Sonic or on /v/ or /co/ sometimes. People outside of 4chan just think you're weird or immature when you tell them you enjoy the Sonic series. Believe me I 36 years old.
>>253402572I dont care about those peopleit seems like the people who are unashamed of being sonic fans are these unhinged loonies looking for dramathe worst we get here is spam but thats easily filtered
>Blaze: FUCK TANUKIS The fuck is her problem?
>>253402538The voice acting feels so off, blaze is the only one who sounds like she putting in effort in her lines.And vector just sounds tired.
So is Blaze the Trump of her dimension? She sends filthy Tanuki back to their country and makes them build a wall?
Blaze sucks big Tanuki balls.
>>253402538Why did they even bother wasting money on voice acting with lines like this that everybody will turn off anyway
>>253402794The voice direction has been weird since we first saw gameplay. Not sure why people are surprised now, it's why I think >>253399307 might still just be Quinton Flynn with different direction.
>>253402751>>253402943Name one good tanuki.
>>253403146I haven't been keeping up with tsr so the character voice changes are all new to me.
There is literary nothing wrong with being a Tanuki
>>253403223none. All of them are filthy. See: Tom Nook
Funny how Tanukis count as just the 1% of the population yet they are accountable for 63% of all violent crimes...
>>253403372nice try mariobab, but you ain't a saint
>>253403323Knuckles especially sounded really off in the early gameplay clips to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHdB1r8Zz58
Silver a cute no matter what, i dont care about the dorky voice desu
>some people getting a new cut of the Sonic trailer before seeing Pikachu>others getting trailer for TSR>i got a trailer for that shitty anime pokemon movieI kinda wanted to see the new cut
>>253403797What’s this “new cut” of the Sonic trailer like?
>>253399307Welp, guess Silver'll be bullied over this one's shitty voice for centuries to come.I like racist Blaze though, that's one headcanon off the list.
>>253403973apparent it was just cut different, removed the gotta go fast line, shortened eggmans theme, cut the kid in the bag joke, etc.
>>253404030Well, all those changes seem pointless.
>>253404030>removed the gotta go fast line >cut the kid in the bag jokeThat's ... interesting.
Why do people say Shadow the Hedgehog was a shit game?It was way better than Sonic 06, Unleashed, Boom, Secret Rings...and like basically every other modern sonic game.
>>253403146There's no way that's Quinton Flynn. It sounds absolutely nothing like him.
>>253404024It sounds a bit like Makoto from Danganronpa.
>>253404197smartest retard situationanything not adventure or adventure 2 is worse that classicshit and all classic shit is worse than mario so why even bother
Pat Casey changed his bannerI liked that Golan/Sonic banner better.Also, he removed “lover of all” from his bio, as if to reflect reality.
Someone is streaming TSR right nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uQMH1Ld5W4
What's with people treating Shadow The Hedgehog like it's god gift to the earth? It was just a average game. An enjoyable game but heavily flawed. Am I missing something?
>>253404024Well at least silver will find comfort from blaze bullying him.
>>253404192Sounds like the changes were to facilitate a shorter runtime less than wanting to make meaningful changes to tone or anything.
>>253404474>gods gift to the earthI'm not treating it like that, I don't think it's anywhere near as good as SA2 but I did actually enjoy playing it which is more than I can say for most of the newer games.
>>253404754Yeah, I don’t think audiences really pay attention to the runtime of the previews.
>>253404782My bad anon, I didn't mean it as response to you, it's just something that i've been seeing for months now. Especially in this general. I just had the idea to talk about it now.
How does Blaze react when she finds out Marine is actually a tanuki and not just a raccoon?
>>253404474Because sonic fans are fucking autistic and unable to divorce their personal opinions from objectivity. I like shadow because as a sonic fan it amuses me, but I can see as an actual game it’s fucking horrible and feels like shit to play. Let’s be honest, it’s the same for SA2. I like it because of the music, story, and because I’ve mastered the speed stages, but it’s objectively barely average.
>>253405041She's kid, so she has a chance at being purified under blaze's guidance.
The real game fucked over by the dimension split.
>>253405392Nah, SA2 is unironically good. Treasure Hunting stages waste a lot of time on the first time, also mech stages really should have explained that walking in a straight line builds up speed. And the plot got a little bit too serious at the end. But other than that, it's a pretty good game.
>>253404474because after years of boostshit and boring classic all anyone wants is the bad games from before with better graphics
>>253405632I always saw this as Classic evolving into Modern especially with Eggman's change of appearance towards the end of the game.
>>253405908Exactly, it shows the transition between now 2 entirely separated eras.
>>253404458>Blaze gets a vela-nova remixabsolutely based
>TSR is actually a gacha gameWasn't expecting that...
>>253405406>purified under blaze's royal flamesftfy
>>253406241But Marine has water magic
I didn’t know this was a remix they did before https://youtu.be/PdArf30mpvk
>>253399307What the fuck have they done.
>streamer immediately changes the voices to Japanese after selecting Silver and hearing his English voice
>>253399307Why is this oddly endearing? He’s not suppose to be dorky though, I refuse to succumb to this
>>253406407What a steamy coincidence
>>253398945What in the god damn.
>>253406581link to stream?
Does anyone else think this menu music is really weird?
>>253406769thanks, im retarded
>>253406662Are you implying sexual intercourse?
>Sonic game gets leaked early>Tons of Sonic fans spoil themselves silly by watching the leak streams>What the fuck, this game is such a let down, no surprises left or nothing newEvery time.
>>253407287I will destroy you, delete yourself from the internet!
>>253405392>SA2 was a horrible gameUnironically kill yourself
>>253407091Are you fucking retarded? Your last point doesn't make any sense. They aren't disappointed because they spoiled themselves and ruined the surprise, they are disappointed because upon looking at the game, the features and storyline are completely mundane and lacking.Did you want them to buy the game and be disappointed after wasting money? Retard.
>>253407287i dont like how smooth her model is in this pic
>>253407462When did I say it was horrible you delusional faggot
>>253407462It wasn't great, let's not even kid ourselves.
>>253407403>>253407287This is sin
>>253407569>as an actual game it’s fucking horrible>it's the same for SA2kys
>>253407706Imagine being this autistic
>>253407630It was the best sonic game though
>>253407505Pulling out the hostility card first, no surprise.
Only the first few stages of SA2 are any good, and even then they aren't as tightly designed in terms of mechanics or level design as a platformer should be.
I like that Cool Edge remix
>>253407765>>253407845Imagine being this wrong
>>253407838Because your logic is fucking retarded and I'm gonna call you out on it. Of course that's also going to envolve calling you an idiot, cuz ya are.
>>253407505You sad sacks get disappointed with everything anyway, why speed up the inevitable?
>>253407891Anon don't be a fucking fanboy, there's not a single Sonic game that isn't flawed in some way.
>>253408037Mania Plus is flawless
>>253407920Or you could have just said I was wrong normally and moved on. I'd have accepted that far better and moved on myself.
>>253406156I thought it had no micro transactions?
>>253407972>You sad sacks get disappointed with everything anywayFuck off, TSR is not a good game it is low budget and rushed just like forces
>>253407972>waaahhh people don't mindlessly enjoy every Sonic product ever releasedOff yourself.
>>253399596>Blaze:Jews are notorious for stealing money in clever ways>Blaze:You won't fool me!>>253407091I never intended to buy the game.
>>253408078Encore mode was mediocre. Mighty is the worst character in the cast and Ray is too OP.
>>253408137Oh I never said you had to like it. Just don't pretend this general hasn't been doom and gloom spouting for a long time either. It's quite impressive that anger is all you people know how to respond with in Sonic conversation.
I’m going to have FUN playing TSR and find some rad dudes who want to ride with me
>>253408078Some of the level design changes weren’t good and a lot of the color pallet changes were bad.
>>253408091No, because people like you piss me off. You think your smart but you aren't, so of course I'm going to insult you.
>>253408232Maybe you should hang out with the twelve year olds on Amino App instead sense 4chan is too aggressive for you.
>>253385550Mina Milestone Maybe?
>flat>worms>autism>trap>now racistis Blaze the ultimate character shitposting?
>>253408283Meanwhile I can make better bonds with people by talking casually instead of throwing rocks. Like I said, you could have just said I was wrong and leave it at that. Lots of people I know do that, and we get along just fine. I only wish you were as mature.
>>253408232We respond positively to porn of said Sonic characters.
>>253408262But I'm not in this game.
>>253408418*forpressed that post too soon
>>253408389I love it when people act like it's law to be cold here, I've met plenty here who talk a lot better, infact a lot of the thread was like this last night so what's your excuse?
>>253408418>gay>pet>hedgelet>dickless>janny>clown>aids>pedoShadow is still the king of /sthg/ character shitposting
No one ever talks about how all the Tanukis in Blaze's World were mysteriously burned to ashes.
>>253408574Thing is no one said you have to be an asshole on 4chan, so I don’t get it either.
>>253408574People are more likely to respond to someone being an asshole rather than being nice or passive aggressive.
>tfw I just remembered that Sonic is going to floss in the movie
>>253408729Is that why Marine is gone? Did she look too much like a Tanuki?
>>253399307I have no qualms with dorky Silver.Fight me.
>>253408962Silver isn't worth fighting over.
dodonpa is marine's father
>>253408962His voice is still shit though.
>>253408842Pretty pathetic desu. Even when I act like an asshole not many people respond to me either
>>253409032>Eggman Nega is marines father
What are Blaze's thoughts on kitsune?
>>253409057Maybe you suck at it.
>>253408962I’m glad they’re embracing it. No one should ever take Silver serious.
>>253408962Dorky silver is fine, I think most hate the delivery of his lines that urks people the most.The guy playing him sounds so out of it, you can tell he was here for a paycheck.
>>253409227All voice actors are there for a pay check.
Another guy is also streaming the gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcVnMQvSk9g
>>253409162 It’s good that it doesn’t work the more I think about it. Better to be a decent person.
>>253409317Man Knuckles sounds so weird
>>253399307wtf, it doesn't even sound similar to his old voiceoh well, just more to bully material
>>253409317god damn, crazy how these games can leak so easily
I want to steal Silver's nasal spray and inhaler.
>>253408418Fuck off. Tanukis are cunts and Blaze is right.
wealthy Tanukis commit more crimes than poor Koalas
Everyone except Sonic and Amy sound weird in the game. Why?
>>253409635Based and redpilled
>>253409776Because they always sound weird?
Literally Silver now>>253409160The perfect wives. As soon as the honeymoon phase is over, you just have to stop pretending not to notice all the Fox bits and she's gone the next morning, no messy divorce proceedings or beheadings necessary.
CAT POWA!CAT POWA!FUCKIN TANUKOONS GET OFF MY PROPERTY
>>253409776Bad voice direction.
I need an image of Blaze burning a Tanuki on the cross
>Silver's a nerd>Blaze is a racistWhy
Silver is hot.
>>253410302welcome to he pontaff era
Silvaze fans..I'm sorry.
Gotta kill fast
im gonna rape this hot dork and there is nothing you guys can do about it
>>253408715Shadow is only good for shitposting and the more shadowfags try to defend him from this, Shadow will get shit on even worse
>>253410678Shadow deserves it to be honest.
>>253410743Shadow deserves to be pump and dumped by the gayposters here.
Why does Shadow sound even more like Vegeta now?
>>253411107Because he is.
>>253411107Either they wanted him to sound more like Vegeta or it's just bad voice direction.
>>253411107He's become a caricature. Like every sonic character
You know that voice you give to each Sonic character in your head?Yeah, they dont sound like that anymore.
>>253411401Proof that I'm too old for this franchise now.
>>253388928some redshirt that dies immediately
>>253411401blaze does, for me
>>253411401>Tails doesnt sound like SA2 Tails anymoreEVERYTHING WILL BE OKYOU TOLD ME, TAILS
>>253411401Yes they do
>>2534114012010 really did ruin the franchise...
>>253410743Shadow deserves to be raped.
what did she mean by this
>>253385969I'm gonna bomb the shit out of omochao and big the cat with some wisps.
Today's Episode of my Sonic Adventures:
real-time fandub Silver >= Silver > dorky Silver
>>253392582Omochao caught the gay from big the cat.
>>253411401>no more valley girl Amy
>>253411401AHM THE COOLEST
>>253412148why the need for 50 youtube videos at the same time
>>253401784>No PC version>Don't own a Switch, PS4, Xbox OneHow am I supposed to play Nitro Fueled now?
>>253398332>How else do you explain the design changeHe grew up
>>253412576PC version will come soon, no dobut on that
>>253392907Sonic blueberry, cherry knuckles, banana tails, strawberry Amy, grape shadow, Butter cream, orange sticks, lime vector, mint silver, watermelon rouge, coconut omega, lemon blaze, pepperoni metal sonic, cheeseburger eggman, deer park water chaos zero.
>>253412585Damn, Silver looks like THAT?
>>253412008I'm going to rape Shadow.
>>253412417>why the need for 50 youtube videos at the same timefor what's on screen and what's related it can consist of:>full playthroughs of the sonic games>the cinematics>voice comparisons and files>selective soundtracks>highlighted character moments>sonic falling>sonic screaming>sonic moving>some of the episodes from the TV series' >the OVA>fan created content that has any artistic value whatsoever>development history and video overviews and reviews>technical information>YTPs/YTMNDs/YTPMVs>related general media content that can be paired with the IP>more referencesthis is the typical formula i go with when working on a project related to any media at alland also because my memory can afford it
>>253412929what did you think of the ova? its my personal favoriteand who's playthrough are you watching
>>253412330there's more where that came from
>>253412929how much ram you have? that has to be taking up 10GB atleast. feels disgusting.
>>253413427thats a reindeer
>shadow is racist>blaze is racist>silver is probably somewhat racist after what blaze must have told him
What do you think it would take for sega to give a sonic game a 3 or even 4 year development time
>>253408078Sonic mania is a bad game.
>>253413742He’s seen what nigg- I mean tanuki do to the future
TANUKI LIVES MATTER
>>253408262>No pre load for Nintendo switch>No cream the rabbit>No Babylon roguesThis game better not force me to play as big the cat and omochao.
>>253413771Sonic on his deathbed
>>253413856I’d be fine with them giving us nothing if they spent a lot of time making a truly good game instead of rushing them out
Shadow shitposting aside.I imagine shadow actually just plays up being cool and edgy, when get's back home with Rouge and Omega, he puts on his apron and cooks dinner, and he's actually a good cook too, and he legitimately enjoys spending time with them.Rouge also act more casual and less slutty while they hangout at home.Omega is exactly the same as he is in public and at home.
>>253413872This is just aosth Tails with eye markings
>>253413914Sonic's already dead, it's Zombie Sonic now just like what happened to the Simpsons.
What the fuck is this voice for Silver? He sounds like he needs a goddamn inhaler.
>>253398635>But Tails is the only two tailed fox and that's alright to you?Yes because it's a mutation that he was teased for.
>>253413248>what did you think of the ova?despite some of the voices being a bit off at times, it was a great watch, the scenery was gorgeous and the soundtrack was even better, can't really remember the thing being corny in more than like 3 moments unlike a lot of the newer sonic media, i should also mention that, for everyone being a 'younger' self i don't think that the choices for Sonic, Knuckles, and Tails were bad at all as for the playthroughs if i don't want any commentary i typically watch the featured longplay channels
>>253411401blaze sounds okay.
>>25341344316 GBjust barely enough to keep Maya/Source SDK/PDN/GIMP/Blender running, the dozen Explorer tabs and Photo Gallery windows open
>>253414023Alright. Trying to prevent Zombie Sonic from becoming a spooky skeleton
>>253414023This. Sonic died in 1998.
>>253413742Sonic is probably a self-hating racist, that'd explain why he's into human girls so much>I'm your dirty rat uwu domesticate me mommy
>>253414023>Sonic's already dead, it's Zombie Sonic now just like what happened to the Simpsons.And countless other IPs today. The cow has fallen from all the milking. SEGA squandered any potential renaissance with occasional exceptions in receiving content that's worth of being spared by the canon nuke. Everything is a clustefuck now.
We will never have a truly great sonic game again. We will never have a game that stands the test of time and is up there with the greats again. We are only getting rushed out maximum 2 years development cycle passionless directionless shit. Generations tier is pretty much the ceiling for 3D sonic, a fun game above the usual standard but not truly great
>>253414023We cannot sacrifice the Sonic universe, or any other franchise for that matter. We've made too many compromises already; too many bad actors, too many storylines with no point to their existence. They invade our canon and we fall back. They assimilate entire franchises and we fall back. And now, the movie. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And "I" will make them pay for what they've done!
>>253414431And half of Generations greatness was nostalgia bait. Without that, it would've just been Sonic Colors.
>people are unironically against longer development cycleswhy?
>>253414431What if in an alternate timeline, SEGA & Sonic were taken under the stewardship of Valve Software?
>>253414431this>>253414517When will sonic babs learn? There's no such thing as a good boost game, because to be boost is to be inherently shit.
>>253414690It’s not just the shit boost forumula. Even if they went back to adventure style or whatever it would be half assed rushed shit. Maybe “good” at best, but nothing that will stand the test of time
>>253414574Forces. It's no use until the dev team is entirelly replaced.
The seed was planted long before 1998. Had Sega not fucked up with the Sega CD, the 32x, and their mishandling of Xtreme, they would have had a proper 3D game years ahead of time, or the full-fledged Sonic 2/CD combo. Instead we got Knuckles' Chaotix and R to fill in the gap while Nintendies had Mario 64. Sonic was a shitshow after the original game.
>>253414659No thanks, but we would've had a Black Mesa equivalent Sonic Adventure remake.
>>253414659All that would mean is sonic hats in tf2. Valve don’t make games anymore
>>253414574Because if SEGA is going to shit on us constantly, regardless of how long it takes, we at least want to be shit on in a timely manner so we have things to talk about.
>>253414431The chain of command was just FUBAR after Unleashed. All of their talent pretty much left after that.
>>253414802They should have just made a classic sonic 4 for the saturn honestly. I’m in shock we never got a real sequel to 3andk when sonic was doing so well at the time. Segas story just became squandered chance after squandered chance in that era
>>253413742Amy is racist
>>253412684A gay omochao is more interesting than a gay shadow.
>>253414834In an alternate timeline, preferably around 2006 or 2007.
>>253415029Shadow the hedgehog is either straight or asexual.
>>253414431>>253414659I wish SEGA would have stopped fucking around and done something tonally darker and less corny like the Opening of Unleashed, a shame that their talent began to leave after 2008. Eventually it went full Circle with Sonic going from semi-realistic to as cartoonish as you can get, whilst Nintendo went in the opposite direction as SEGA employees joined them. Also, the Millennium cast leaving also sealed it for many people. It's not the same without Jason Griffith, Dan Green, Mike Pollock and the others all in the same studio. Instead, we got Forces. That and good gameplay and level design, something that Valve has mastered back in the day.
>>253415159>There come's a time where a man finds out he just can't fall in Love again...
>>253415027She seems based here
>>253399374I like sonic adventure 1, sonic heroes, sonic unleashed, and sonic colors. I don't like sonic mania.
>>253415029Gaydow turned omochao gay
Green hill zoneSonic
>>253414659I don't think Sonic would be able to function on the Source Engine though. It's designed for FPS. I don't think it could really handle the larger and open level design for the Sonic games unless you can do a lot of tricks in Hammer.
>>253415594I would buy sonic unleashed on nintnedo switch. I could only rent it in 2008.
>>253414023Sonic is not dead. It's really on life support.
>>253415208It will never happen but honestly there needs to be a break from 3D sonic. Let the team get some new talent, and spend some time drawing up a new concept for how 3D sonic could work and take time getting the handling and gameplay perfect. A little investment in time and money and a chance to plan ahead could be a huge help for sonic. Sega of course would never do this though.
>>253415598I will make big the cat and omochao gay so they won't steal Amy rose from sonic the hedgehog.
How many of you are unironically autistic
>>253385550Still waiting for sonic adventure to get ported to Nintendo switch or remade.
>>253415834How will you make them gay
>>253415958Me. I’m legal.
>>253415958I have attention deficit disorder. I started playing sonic spinball in 1997 when I was 6.
>>253415958I’m obsessed with sonic but have a reasonably normal social life
>>253415757That break from 3D Sonic should have been done 10 years ago, i'm afraid. Just another casualty in the series of examples which have overstayed their welcome trying to milk the franchise to a wider (aka accessible) audience and as a result, children or just generally undesirable people have taken over a fan base and the development team, which all cultivates it's self in the infamous 'Minecraft' effect.
>>253415958I just became obsessed with Sonic for the past 5 days and i'm taking a break from consuming any further content to prevent myself from being burned out
>>253415978I will put chemicals in big the cat's water to make him gay, just like jolly roger from banjo tooie. I will force myself on omochao even if he does not want it. I will never let omochao kiss cream the rabbit either. I'm glad omochao did not motor boat rouge the bat.
>mfw TSR is confirmed trashI was hopeful for this title, but the shitty production value, terrible voices, wisps, Colors dick sucking, and terrible writing and story is making me just hate everything about it. The teamplay gimmick isn't even that good.
>>253414659What kind of lessons and inspiration could Sonic have taken from Half-Life, Portal, or Team Fortress 2?
>>253416312OST is good at least, but yeah
>>253385550I like team sonic, Amy rose, team dark, team vector, and team eggman. I don't like big the cat and omochao. Amy should have had cream the rabbit. Chaos zero or storm the albatross would have been better than big the cat.
>>253416312>>253416453NO, NO NO, STOP SAYING THISTHIS GAME IS ALL WE HAVE, BROSSUMO WAS SUPPOSED TO MAKE IT GOOD
>>253416453>game flops>I guess gaijiin didn’t rike it, crushuru a 40 made the music that means gaijiin don’t like them>get reach for stars man back for all sonic music in futuru
Why does the Sonic Unleashed Theme and Opening sound so similar to Star Trek? I legitimately thought i accidentally turned on the Wrath of Khan/Original Series/Generations OST by accident at a few points since i tend to keep those in the background.
>>253416705I noticed that too
>>253416705Also even more curious, the Opening Soundtrack when layered over "Sonic's Fight" From X, appears to share the same keynotes as the former, only remixed to perfection, which i thought was really nice as a detail. It seems to take a lot of musical cues from that time period. Play this over the Opening Scene around the 20-30 second mark and you'll be able to synchronise it perfectly with the original. https://youtu.be/LVJn7V21NWQhttps://youtu.be/gGY000w5d1Ahttps://youtu.be/GJqZlkTHkDg
>>253417078Thanks for posting this, genuinely very interesting. I remember finding all the weird music sonic CD sampled a while ago
>>253413742Reminder that Silver's enemy is literally one of eggmans future descendants named Eggman Nigga and he wuz kang
>>253411401I still imagine them with their 4kids VAs.
I guess I'm going to just give my thoughts about boost.Why does everyone hate boost so much? It's not even I dislike or kinda like, it's always a strong autistic hatred for it, I understand it's flawed, but so a lot of sonic's other play styles.Sonic Unleashed had some pretty good stages like Rooftop Run, the boost is more about reaction and maintaining speed, if you "boost to win" you'll run into a spike wall, it's a little more involved then people seem to give it credit for, Sonic Generations had some nice stages with a little more options for taking different pathways like Chemical Plant, not perfect but an attempt was made, I think it can be really fun if done right, unlike Forces a boring slog of a game, that really is "Boost to win."The Adventure play style while fun still has flaws in it, but I really love the way sonic controls in it it just needs to be tuned up a little and given more expansive levels like SA.Personally I would like it if we went back to the adventure format but added the boost, give it a smaller gauge that depletes quickly in use, and enemies fill it up less, it's primary use would be to find secrets in levels and getting past tricky sections of the stage, it's less about using it when you access to it and more about using it when the time is right for it, you hold on to it during the level for boosting onto a wall to find a different part of the level, and you can still use it in the air and it could still retain some properties from Sonic force's by making it so you can still stay in the air with it, (Gauge is still nerfed, so will be less effective) this allow levels to make it so can split off the path or find extra goodies by making so you have to air boost to reach a section that's more out of reach by normal means. I think boost would work the best as something that has be used only when the time is right, as you'll have a harder time maintaining that meter if you use it much, it could be a way to expand levels with it.
>>253415958I'm a legitimate schizoid.
>>253415958I have ADD and extreme fatigue. It sucks. I get really obsessed with everything Sonic for a week or two and then completely drop off until my interest picks up again. When I was 12 it was non stop until March 1997 when my comic subscription ran out and couldn't afford a Dreamcast until 1999.
>>253416312It will be good. r-right
>>253417492I don’t really buy into the idea of personality disorders. I got diagnosed with this and given xanax for years and all it did was fuck me up. When I stopped taking it I just decided to make an effort to get involved more
>>253417436>Why does everyone hate boost so much?Only here on /sthg/ and /v/. Ever gone to the Sonic the Hedgehog subreddit? Those fucking losers actually love boost and will defend it's shitty gameplay.
>>253415958I'm not.And I barely interact with other sonic fans, /sthg/ is the most I get out of the fan base. Probably the reason I'm not a total faggot, or at least not that type of fag.
>>253415958Well I'm turning more and more weird every day.
>>253416312Tough luck sonicbabs
>>253417535No wait 2000. After 2004 I picked up every back issue of Archie Sonic I could find, renewed my subscription and picked up every current Gamecube and GBA Sonic games to deal mentally with family issues. My only Sonic fan regret is buying an Xbox360 to play the best version of one of the worst Sonic games lol.
>>253413968Same actually, quality post anon
>>253417726I never used reddit and I don't plan to ever go there.
>>253417436A lot of them are retards who think going back to adventure style will automatically save the franchise. Boost is stale as fuck and it’s appeal has worn thin, but to save sonic intrinsic changes need to be made in segas attitude to the franchise
>>253416312>hopeful for a racing spinoff after the godsend of Transformed>hopeful for it to be good when the gameplay was confirmed to be shit months agoyou have nobody to blame but yourself, delusional faggot
>>253417436I love Classic gameplay but boosting around in Sonic Unleashed is thrilling.
>>253417078https://youtu.be/vzl60z0g-CoWar Thunder's Twelfth Battle Score is Another Piece that can effectively replace part of the OST with the Opening of Unleashed. Play this at around the one minute mark in the Opening, and you'll find it synchronises perfectly with the character movements and pauses. >>253416705The Wrath of Khan's theme can effectively match the opening 30 seconds as well.
>>253417436"Boost to win" derives from a wider problem that people falsely believe playing a sonic game "Is all about speed / going fast." As it's been spammed for many years, speed is / should be the reward, not the default state of being.Playing a boost game then, as they all were inherently designed, mean you press one button to "Go fast". When someone says "Boost to win", they don't mean literally "You hold the boost button to beat the stage", they mean "You hold one button to go fast".Boost has wider problems, namely in that stages are a pain to develop content for given the length they need, (which is why they're mostly hallways) and the fact it's difficult to actually have gameplay at genuinely high speeds in 3D space, which is why the 'platforming' is only ever in the slower 2D bits or non existent, but the sense that you're not doing much aside from holding X (mainly due to the last point) is where "Boost to win" comes from on top of the "Going fast is just given, instead of earned."
Sonic should reward good play by making you feel like a speedrunner styling on the game
>>253418015>that squash and stretchso that's why the movements looked so fluid and life like
Why is it always like this? I hope that the next Sonic game is going to be good but it always turns out trash.Maybe it's because Sonic is recently going through a "copy everything Mario does" faze. Lost World was a copy of Mario Galaxy. TSR is a copy of Mario Kart. etc.
After seeing all of the TSR leaks so far...it's kinda starting to hit me. As one reviewer put it,>As of right now, the main criticism we can throw at Team Sonic Racing isn't really its fault. It's fairly clear it's been developed with a limited budget, and while Sumo has made a great effort, it does feel a little limited in some ways. The visuals are nice but nothing outstanding, performance is mostly smooth but dips when things get hectic, and modes of play are pretty basic. And it's never going to get better. We are stuck with low budget shit until this series dies. So even if the devs do make an effort, Sonic games will never be anything above average because they don't have the budget to do so.
>>253418421To be fair, Sonic and SEGA All Stars Racing and Sonic and All Stars Racing Transformed (Geeze that's a mouthful) were always Mario Kart knockoffs with their own SEGA arcade racer spin on how they felt to play.
>>253418385They could easily do animation like that in game as well, but they don't.
gamers rise up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qefSyzfAvas
Not trying to shill but this came out today. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1079210/Spark_the_Electric_Jester_2/Gameplay is like countless "modern Sonic done right" demos and engines, but a full game.
>>253418487So what you're saying is that Sonic is basically dead.
>>253418487doesn't help that one person at home for minimal costs can do so much nowadays
>>253418487Now you understand.Unleashed being critically panned destroyed any chance of this series receiving a decent budget ever again.
>By the time I would actually get to write my gay shadow fanfiction, the meme would already be deadFeels bad man
>>253418487When will Sonic ever catch a brake.
>>253418808I mean basically...yeah. Hard as it is to say. Sonic is a shovelware series, and I sincerily doubt that it will ever reach the highs of the 00's era ever again.
>>253418665Feels it too. Has that problem seemingly ALL 3D Sonic fangames have where all the assets are physically stretched thin to compensate for the fact that the characters move so fast, and making the stages feel empty and lifeless because of it.
>>253419045Do it anyways because I unironically find it hot as hell.
>>253419224>>253419045fuck off back to /trash/
>>253418665Waiting for impressions.
We won't go down in a boom from one or two terribly bad games that tried too hard, like another '06, we'll just slowly wither away. I actually would've preferred the former because at least you could say they tried.
>>253419492Yep, the process is already starting. The series' sales is slowly declining. Eventually Sega will just stop publishing Sonic games and no one will notice or care. This is it.
Would anyone here have any requests for what i should animate?I'd like to be that extra bit useful outside of what i already have given i'm about a week overdue in actually working on something instead of just flying around in the void thinking about how i'm going to do it.
Have you guys finally learned to give up on this franchise?
>>253419045do it, write gay fanfiction for all the hogs while you're at it
>>253418421The people making the games have no passion for what they create. It's painfully apparent in Forces.
>>253419634Sonic didn't deserve this man...
>>253419337but anon, I'm at work!
>>253419654Clown Amy balancing on a ball
>>253419654You're gonna have to be more specific.2D / 3D? What kind of animation lengths are we talking? What kind of dynamism are you wanting to portray? What limitations do you have? Is sound / voices even a consideration?
>>253419943Insufficient parameters. Please specify location and background.
>>253420135How about in Toy Kingdom
>>253418665>That negative review by JPtheROBOTHoly fuck, this is the kind of autism we need more of.Everything I've seen from gameplay footage seems to imply what that review had to say. To this day I still don't understand why /anyone/ would try to put brawl mechanics in a platformer of any kind, especially one where the point is to try and go fast, something brawling is the defacto exact OPPOSITE of.
>>253420068I accidentally cut that part from my post.>3D >Any Duration that can be completed within a reasonable time frame. Prefera short.>Capped by Software/Engine Limitations>Any Dynamism>Full Physical/Environmental Sounds, existing voices for now as my equipment for creating new ones is broken.
>>253420590Bump jumping up and down with bouncing breasts
>>253420872Go jack off
>>253419790I won't give up until this series stop giving me shots of Shadow's tight ass
>>253419045>not writing your fanfiction anyway only to never sharePersonal growth outweighs external validation anon
>>253418315So a mainline game which feels like speedrunning 06?
>>253421239>implying I don't write all the timeI'm so behind on things, I don't have the free time for Sonic lewds
>>253420453It can be done, but the fighting needs to be just as fast as the traversal. Shadow the Hedgehog made similar fuck ups. The game looks like Shadow the Hedgehog 2 to be honest.
>>253420590also>No NSFW>No Furfaggotry
>>253418487This is a good thing honestly. Massive budget constraints can lead to some crazy stuff
>>253420205I look at these artworks and can only think, "Wow, look at how much they cared back then"
>>253421462Not from Sonic. That only works when there is passion and creativity behind a project.
>>253420590Are you the SFM guy from a while ago?I'd suggest recreating key shots from the Movie trailer, but wit ha Sonic that doesn't look awful.
>>253421649Uh yeah, true actually. But if sega and sonic team fully stop giving a shit (we are close to this) they might just do a mania but with 3D sonic and give fans a shoestring budget but with segas resources
What did you think of the opening?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0vsRi96gtY
>>253421520That's exactly what I thought when I saw those...M-maybe now that Sonic's a SOA IP we can get gaijins who care to make Modern Sonic games?
>>253421387Anything that requires the player to slow down or stop with zero way of genuinely keeping momentum /can't/ work. Period.
>>253421432Bump and/or Sage waving at the viewer
>>253421838Nice.Love Amy's expressions, and that part where Shadow shreds his tires is still really cool.
>>253421838Why is there a corner of the screen missing?
>>253421938This. I don’t understand why people want fighting mechanics in sonic games. Yes, enemies need to present a challenge. That means you need to find a creative way of making them be challenging without just having zero originality and forcing in mechanics that don’t work.
>>253421938gotta go fast
Do we know who Dodon Pa is yet?
>>253421838I'm so glad they got rid of those UGLY animal friend audience members. I understand they needed something to pad out the audience, but god were they ugly. There are enough Chao variants for that.
>>253422332Interdimensional tanuki that wants to fuck with people. I'm 99% sure that's just it.
Fun fact: Eggman is perfect!
How come SEGA isn't taking down leaks for TSR? They were pretty fast to shut Mania down. I guess they don't have faith in the product and know it won't sell well anyways.
>>253423214YeahThey don’t care
>>253373232>>253379250>>253380765Super-cute! Thanks, fampais>>253381335see >>253334154Youtube comments from some vid.You fancy adding to the track?
>>253423214It's just a little spinoff game. Mania was hyped up to be the triumphant return of Classic Sonic we've all been waiting for for 23 years.
>>253412301I'd rather the slothgirl.
https://twitter.com/jsjisduke/status/660543840479244288What's his problem?
So I just got a 144hz display, and the ONE game I ewant to play at 144fps the most is SA2But using the main options menu for SA2 on steam, I can't get it to go over 60fps. Is there a hack to get it to go to 144, or can it be done via a hack on dolphin or something emulating the gamecube version?Are there any notable SA2 modders I could reach out to who might be able to help?
>>253421727>I'd suggest recreating key shots from the Movie trailer, but with a Sonic that doesn't look awful.Classic Sonic, Adventure Sonic, Modern Sonic? The "film's" premise is still rather inconclusive. If this is supposed to be an origin story for the characters, it would make sense to use their younger, classic designs and voices. Also, if anyone has some suggestions on changing the location and/or dialogue or music for the trailer, give them to me, now. I do plan to change a lot of the scenery when i get to building and animating this, assuming someone doesn't do it before me in time. I have a few other shorts planned.
>>253419790Clown Shadow anon gave me a reason to love Sonic again
>>253423764Use this for the music:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XBlBPtQW6gOr literally anything else but Gangsta's Paradise really.
>>253423546You're fucked m8. The game's speed is tied to framerate. If you played it at 144fps the game would go nuts.
>>253421838Looks pretty.Crush 40 giving me big nostalgia feels.
>>253420590Big and Shadow go on a biker roadtrip.Silver prepares for the Olympics in his ruined future. Slapstick hijinks ensue, and the Iblis creatures are very supportive.>>253423764I think you could use Adventure Sonic for the present day shots, and Classic Sonic for the few scenes implied to happen prior to the movie's main plot.Maybe fade a small pile of old shoes to a bigger pile of old shoes as Classic Sonic fades to Adventure Sonic.
>>253424186Is there software then to get 144hz displays use frame interpolation then?
>>253423546Nah, appearently the game falls apart when you remove the FPS capalso if you want to play older games at high refresh rates you should really look into CRT displays. They can handle a wide varierity of resolutions loss-free, have much less delay, better colors and depending on the resolution you can get a refresh rate of well above 150 hz.
>>253424164I thought of also using SA2's Eggman theme as well, that one edit of the trailer to make it feature Robotnik instead kind of stood out to me. Endless Possibility is a piece that i like but i don't think nearly suites a trailer that well.
>>253424517Go away, /vr/.
>>253423487>Not knowing to press down on the D-padhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5egfJGRBzQM
>>253423546the game's speed is tied to it's framerate just like in Terraria or the High Moon games >>253424351i think they meant the generations model for classic and unleashed for modern/post adventure since the last time i checked people often confuse the two
>>253424517I've actually been thinking of getting a CRT, see my posts here>>>/v/462208975>>>/v/462210707>>>/v/462211257>>>/v/462215104 if wanna post some guides/resources my way feel free
>>253424480>Making new content for your shitpostsNow this is how you do it.
I remember when Sumo members would post on SEGA forums about the development of SASASR.They had some pretty cool stuff to say.
>>253424556All up to you. Giving it your own take instead of just copying the actual trailer is important too.
https://youtu.be/PSlDuarbnj4wtf I love Reach For the Stars now?
>>253423764Turn the whole thing into a comedy by including things such as >sonic crashes into a tree in the shot where he runs in the forestor>he's the one falling off the building instead
>>253424916Nice try but they can't trick me by mixing it into Holoska like that
>>253421838>Zavok and metal not in the introOH NO NO NO NO
>upon failing a stunt sonic says “epic fail” in TSRyeah I’m not buying it
>>253425287I'm going to run it on Japanese with German text
>>253424905>Giving it your own take instead of just copying the actual trailer is important too.Alright, that's exactly what i plan to do. There's nothing i can't make better by changing almost everything. Although i am conflicted on the matter of including locations from the games or not, since i'd like to avoid deliberate nostalgia trips and try and do something new.
>>253425287epic fail, bro. just buy the game, dude
>>253421838>team rose gets murdereda certain pedo poster would be happy to see this
https://youtu.be/s8AqdNEHafA>6:10 - 6:34dios mio...
>>253425489Guys stand no chance against the ultimate gayform
>>253425489Cringe and Vegetapilled
>You've changed your appearance, my little blue friend! Festive!
>>253425871If this shit manages to reference Christmas Island somehow I wouldn't even hate it
>>253425871How does Eggman get fat in the film?
>>253426021He vores multiple chao.
>>253424480This song is great
>>253425489Shadow...buddy, what happened to you?
>>253425287They could have had Blaze call Vector a fucking coldblood and I would've been fine with that but this made me not buy the video game at full price.
>>253425871>Ahh, Yes! I should introduce you to my tailor!
>>253425287>>253426497Sonic's always made stupid, unfunny, cringeworthy jokes. Why is this different?
>>253426703Moderniggers will never admit the dialogue in their games was always cringe inducing.
Leaked image of a Sonic Movie Storyboard.
>>253426703Sonic has always made jokes. Shitty jokes, but jokes nonetheless. Not memes. Not references.
>>253426983Owl dad has nice pecs.
>>253427016>"I die hard"
>>253426983>we already know the whole plot thanks to the leaks
>>253427436Who wins the race?
reminder to report erafaggotry
If people can get nostalgic over Heroes' corny script then people will get nostalgia for Pontaff desu
>I'm going to focus, that's sounds like a good idea! I must focus on the battle of light and dark to ensure, that the universe is kept in equilibrium and that i do not fall once more, my name is Sonic the Hedgehog, and i am absolutely terrible!
>>253425489I don't think I have ever seen Shadow be this OOC. Holy fucking shit.>>253427743I didn't grow up with Heroes, but at least it was corny in a funny way. This is just...bad. REALLY bad.
How much longer do you think this franchise has before they stop making games? Tell me what you really think.
I hate /sthg/. Bunch of apologist faggots who eat shit and beg for more while ignoring that the only way the series can be tolerable again is by focusing purely on classic Sonic.
>>253428042If ironic memers keep buying every piece of shit game, then it will live for another 10+ years If people smarten up, maybe 7
>>253427947But you did grow up. I'm sure there's younger people that also find this dialog "corny in a funny way." Sonic just can't be a single thing forever. In many ways.
>>253428042The next 3D Sonic game will be the last because it won't sell enough to warrant a sequel or continuation of any kind.
>>253427947I felt like they were aiming to make some of the hammy lines in Heroes funny in a way so that the player laughs with the game. But most people found themselves laughing at the game.
>>253428169As if. Sonic will continue to exist. Sega will pull another wake up call like Unleashed and then start all over again
ULTIMATE POWER FROM THE ULTIMATE LIFEFORM
the script in sonic games was never good
SONIC ADVENTURE 2LAST EPISODEWISHESARE ETERNAL
>>253428428we can fix that
>>253405708>also mech stages really should have explained that walking in a straight line builds up speed. Why, because you're a retard who doesn't understand how momentum works after how many Sonic games?
>>253428150If by "corny in a funny way" you mean using it as an excuse to go "haha Sonic sucks look how fucking awful this writing is hahaha cringe cringe cringe (single Megalovania note)" then sure. Maybe they do find it funny. But the key difference is that when little kids played Heroes, they probably didn't even notice how corny it really was.>Sonic: "Let's show that creep the real super power of teamwork!">Kid: "Yeah!"But now the immediate reaction is mockery. I can guarantee you no kid is going to find "Epic fail" to be funny. Not even 9gag still uses that one.
SONIC BAD BLUE HEDGEHOG BADTHIS SERIES WAS NEVER GOOD
>>253405708>also mech stages really should have explained that walking in a straight line builds up speedYou can literally see your booster get bigger with speed>plot got a little too serious????? it was standard fantasy
>>253406241>comics Blaze base form is more powerful than Burning BlazeWhat did Ian and Evan mean by this?
>>253413910>pre loadCringe>>253408262Is that a new render? How was Sega able to afford such a thing?
>>253428361Now we know that Sonic doesn't use firearms because reasons, but which would fit him and/or shadow the best?
>>253428928no shes not, Regular Blaze couldnt destroy the Wily Egg
>>253408262I wonder how long it took them to make that car model and then map all the materials to it
>>253429152Seeing Sonic characters hold firearms is hilarious because they look like toddlers playing with toy guns
>>253429091Nah, I think it’s fanmade
http://picarto.tv/AlextheBorderCollieStreaming making Sonichu OCs.
>>253409160She knows they have shit personality and no original ideas whatsoever.
>>253429353Must every attempt by series to pander to young impressionable youth be treated by derision?I missed it when they actually tried to get new fans and appeal to another demographic instead of rehashing stuff for nostalgia points from their embittered core audience.
>>253429353Has Sonic ever used Rings as a ranged weapon?
>>253414431>Mania blocks your pathU wot?
>>253429152I still like the idea of Shadow having guns. Not realistic guns and nothing you actually find in the level, but something like Jak has.
>>253429774Sonic only takes stuff from pop culture to sustain interest from the public. This franchise is a soulless parasite that cashes in on whatever's trendy at the moment. At least Mario has more integrity than this shitty franchise in this regard.
>>253429924Not in any official released games, no. The closest you can get is his move in battle where he throws a ring and then homing attacks towards it. He would throw one at enemies in the unreleased SatAM game, however. This unofficial but SRB2 also has a mode inspired by Doom where you can "shoot" various ring types at other people.
>>253430010>a fun game above the usual standard but not greatThat's Mania
People who shit on plots like SA2's because "itz 4 kidz" are the most retarded motherfuckers ever. Kids don't like stuff that panders to kids.Back when I was like 9 or so, I loved SA2's plot because it felt mature and deep, it wasn't afraid to take itself seriously and it wasn't holding my hand like newer Sonic games are. I felt an actual connection to it, on an emotional level. And that's why I'm here.Kids won't get that with the last decade of Sonic games. There's no universe or story to get into. And this is how this franchise will die, it'll fail to attract a new generation of autists who are passionate about Sonic.
>>253430712If the franchise's death means we'll never have serious games again then I'll gladly take it. At least I'll have fun with it until the end.
>>253430712>9 year olds thought SA2's plot was mature and deepGood to know.
>>253425489>watches videoI expected something horrible. Shadow is fine, sounds like they even rerecorded some lines. Ya'll pussy
>>253430868You seriously like Pontaffshit?
>>253431216Not exactly but I'd take it over the more serious tone we used to have, yes. A well-written but light hearted tone would be ideal but if this is the closest we'll get then I might as well try to enjoy it.
>>253431372Unleashed was the best.
>>253420005>This is a piece of comics. You have a name in manga. The Sonic of American comics is good, isn't it? I like the atmosphere. I have gotten a lot, but I left it in Sega. I wonder if it is cherished now?What did Naka mean by this?
>>253431372>A well-written but light hearted tone would be idealFuck that. Maybe ShTH went too far, but SA2 is proof that you can put the Sonic characters in basically any situation as long as they stay true to themselves.
>>253431432I can definitely agree with that.
>rips off Felix the Cat and other cartoon animals>rips off Star Wars>rips off DBZ>rips off shonen archetypes and plots in general>rips off Pixar>rips off Pepsi Man>rips off Mario>rips off passing fads like soap shoesThis series never had soul.
>>253431372Proof that opinions can be wrong.>>253431432I fucking hated Unleashed's tone
>>253431506THISI want it back. I want shonen back. People who want "muh power of friendship, muh goofy cartoon animals xd" out of this series can seriously fuck off.
What are some cringy Sonic songs that are too cheesy for you to like that you always skip or delete off your playlist? Like Dear My Friend, Speak From Your Heart, Live Life, Worth A Chance, Cosmic Eternity, and others like them.
>>253431506We'll have to agree to disagree then. It really is unfortunate that Sonic gets split up so many times and in so many ways.>>253431680Shonen is enjoyable, I'd just prefer it if it also didn't need darker themes mixed in.
>>253431680nakama power is literally shonen at its worst
>>253431509very based>>253431519very yikes
>>253431680Yes, but zoomer youtubers and their shitty fans memed their hatred of an element of a series they don't even like in the fucking first place hard enough that we fans got shafted in the end. Isn't life great?
>>253422273Easier said then done.
SHONEN SONIC FOREVERPONTAFFSHITS FUCK OFFTHIS IS SHONENCHAD TERRITORY
>>253422273They might as well ask for an actual fighting game with Sonic skins.
>>253431741>Skipping Cosmic EternityShould be considered a crime honestly.
*sip* Nothing beats the classics. Giant robots, super transformations, epic space stations, all while taking itself seriously and no self depreciation or irony. Yep, that was some good Sonic. Kids these days don't know what they're missinghttps://youtube.com/watch?v=UyDc1H0GrPwhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=x4L4TSrDB4M
>>253431741Most of the Black Knight songs with the exception of Knight of the Wind are bad. "We Can" is the worst, though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UtwdDjhA_4
>>253429980I didn't remember this beforehand, but i actually got the idea whilst writing a script for a scene based off an idea from someone i got before going to sleep and after just playing SA2, in which Tails hands Sonic a ring for him to use as a sort of makeshift boomerang, one time distraction, or something else. Tails would be left with a grappling hook.
Unleashed has shit gameplay, shit tone and a shit plot. Overrated as fuck, people only like it because it had pretty lighting and animation. If the game looked like Forces they'd hate it.
oh no no no no no
>>253432048I want the Sonic 3 sprite for Sonic back.
>>253431973As long as Ian Flynn or Pontaff aren't writing it
games that matter to sonic team:>sonic 1>sonic 2>sonic colors>sonic lost world>sonic generations>sonic mania
SONIC TEAM IS DEADAND YOU KILLED THEM
People that matter to Sega>ecelebs>critics>normies>non autistic fansPeople that don't matter to Sega>(You)>/sthg/
>>253432348oh and >sonic heroesapparently because they won't stop shilling it
>>253432048Tell me what’s your favorite classic final boss theme.2 > 1 > 3&K > CD JP > CD US > Doomsday
>>253432348Sa2, and sa1 should be added to list
Hey guys, did you know that /sthg/ is pronounced the same way as seething?
>>2534325423D Blast Sat > 3D Blast Gen in between the CDs.
>Why, yes, I USED to play Sonic games, but i've left that behind me. How could you tell?
>>253432701h-he was right...
>>253432806Don’t be like that, I can look dapper without disliking Sonic
>>253432806Is autism really curable?
>253431973cringe and shonenpilled
>>253432701Sammy, you were right about everything. We should've listened.
>>253432701I always thought he was right.
>>253433018What was he right about
>>253432701How old is he now?
>>253432192>ForcesSega doesn't even aknowledge that one, they'll likely use Mania as a mainline game for thier Generations DLC
All I want is Sonic 3 and Knuckles over and over again
>>253432483I need sonic heroes to be a digital download on nintendo switch in the united states. I would pay 60 dollars for it.
>>253433857I would pay twenty burgers max
>>253433646>Sega doesn't even aknowledge that oneYeah, IDW can't even use Infinite
>>253423214They are shutting down leaks for team sonic racing because I don't know how to unlock the characters and I want to be spoiled on the ending but nobody is being truthful. They're are making shit up and only showing stuff I already know.
>>253430053Damn. I was about to argue with you but...I can't.
>>253421149I am getting tight shots of the ass of omochao. I will kiss him. Put my hand over his mouth. I will hug omochao while farting. Omochao will feel my hot dog.
Remember the time Archie pulled that "After the Credits Month bullshit?
Amy had a chance, well she really didInstead she dropped out and had a couple of kidsTails still lives at home cause he's got no jobHe just plays guitar and smokes a lot of potShadow committed suicideKnux OD'd and diedWhat the hell is going onThe cruelest dream, realityChances thrownNothing's freeLonging for what used to beStill it's hardHard to seeFragile lives, shattered dreams
>>253434430the offspring does the theme for the next sonic game, what are ur thoughts?
>>253434851Aren't they all dead?
The Second IDW Sonic trade only sold 248 copies in the first month. Why does IDW value trades so much?
I don't get Sonics and Amys relationship. In Forces they are good friends, in Adventure and Adventure 2 she is more like a minor annoyance. Heroes and Battle turns her into a crazy stalker, in Unleashed she is a potential love interest and in IDW they are close friends and might as well be lovers if it weren't for regulations. Whats the deal with those 2?
I think we have gathered enough data over the years to conclusively devise what The Vicious Cycle of Sonic The Hedgehog probably looks like
>>253432701>>253432806>in the end, he was right all alongone of the most deserved victories. what a chad
>>253419347I bought it and like it. I'm not finished with it, but there are definitely some cool level concepts like one that's basically "Hang Castle but Good". The biggest problem with it in my eyes is that the levels a little too often are literally straight lines, almost like someone took a 2D game's map and then turned it 3D. But there are levels that don't do that and they stand out. I don't view the combat emphasis as a bad thing, though I will admit that the perfect parry is comically overpowered. With it you can get a 3X damage boost and then everything just dies so quickly it's hilarious.
>>253435186>the comics are still goingI thought Sonic Boom existing for so long was bad enough
>>253432072I forgot about We Can, that and Sonic Heroes and Follow Me and Team Chaotix are unbearable.
>>253436326>Team Chaotix>unbearableThem's fightin words.
>>253436218what's wrong with the comics existing?
>>253435320Inconsistent writing across 20+ years and 3-4 different media. It's a given with any franchise that's as long-going and spread out as Sonic is.
Daily reminder that in Sonic CD, Amy was only 8 years old. Sonic was running away from her not because he didn't like girls, not because he didn't want a relationship, and not because he was afraid of what Amy might do to him, but because she was an annoying little brat and he wasn't a pedophile.
We all clowned in fireTrapped in the big topDon't know how many horns we honkedAs the ringleader watches
https://youtu.be/Pfxie6bmuXYS H O N E NHONEN
>>253437653And Sonic was 16, but he's 15 now, so fuck off with your bullshit
haha Imagine if Shadow's ass cheeks made a honk sound if I squeeze them haha
>>253437653Pretty sure that Classic Sonic was like 12
>>253437961shut up tails
>>253437978Classic Sonic was 16.
what would the characters reaction be if they where on /sthg/ and read what we say about them?
>>253438180>This is terrible!
>>253433646>>253433984>game is mediocre at its worst>gets memed>Sega pretends it doesn't existI fucking hate this.
>>253438180Shadow would be fine with it since he's already a janny that reads our threads daily yet he never lifts a finger to do his job.
>>253438180Shadow would probably want to kill us all.if he could get that cock out his ass first I mean.
Thanks, /sthg/ you got me writing shit againcheck the other general for a sneak peek.
>>253438413Reminder Shadow doesn't delete gayposts because he is gay.
I hate everything and want to die every waking moment.
>>253437653in the adventure series she's got a 10/10 smoking hot body and Sonic still refuse her, what a fag
>>253438767Alexa Bliss the Hedgehog?
>>253438180sonic would be disappointing in our lack of faith in his seriesshadow would delete 4chansilver would be sad that we bully her blaze would probably ignore it or say were lying
>>253438180We'd give Sonic depression.
>>253438767Okay but what if Tails...
>>253438767Me too anon.
What do you consider the most important do's and don'ts of writing a Sonic Story in the current day?
>>253437653And now she's twelve and he's fifteen.
>>253439234Don't: write a Sonic story
>>253439234Don't assume anyone's gender.
>>253425489Jesus, he sounds like shit.
>>253439596If projared can cheat then so can I
>>253439583>>253439469let me know what you think once you've read. I could improve it and/or add another scene later.
>>253439740There were a few spelling mistakes, but that's all.
>>253439661Vegeta Shadow is best Shadow.
>>253439234Embrace the history of the franchise.Have fun with the absurdity of thingsTell fun stories with interesting cartoony characters
>>253439465Nice art anon! Silver's expression reminds me of BCA's Dark Souls silvaze meme [ /spoiler]
>>253439802Yeah, there always is when I write first drafts
>>253440001Ah, I see. I hope you continue.
>>253439234>>253439860https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AngstWhatAngstYes, however you must also remember to avoid this at ALL costs, the recurring problem of tone death has done great things to harm the franchise over it's history. The best example of this being in Forces, because forces has dark concepts while being not taking it's self seriously when it should be or serious at all tonally. Forces would've been far better if it delivered on darker concepts in the same way a few instances did in earlier games.
>>253439234Don't write the characters majorly ooc and try to justify with some half-ass "uh, uh they grew up!" excuse.
>>253440307oh yes. Current sonic stories have no real weight to the scenarios. At least IDW has that. Sonic actually WORRIES that he's not in control in issue 16
>>253440270maybe I will. I have ideas for Shadow exploring himself. I wonder what characters he could explore with?
>>253440795I mentioned a few characters yesterday. Any of those would be great
>>253439234DO: Actually fucking care.DON'T: Treat these characters like they're Looney Tunes.We have an established universe here with lore out the ass, and instead of using that lore to its full potential and actually having characters grow and learn new things in their adventures, they're fucking static and don't even have a second dimension to their characters at this point.Stop basing these characters on other, more popular characters just because you think it fits and you have an excuse to be a lazy hack. Sonic is not Nathan Drake. Tails is not Jimmy Neutron. Shadow is not Vegeta. And stop shoving stupidass memes like "Gotta go fast" into your script as those are born out of mockery for the franchise, not celebration like "oh no". Fans are getting sick and tired of you encouraging them to laugh AT this franchise instead of with it.
>>253441006This. This x100I wish current Sonic stories did this so much.
>>253441006Tails is Bulma
>>253439234>don'tmake sonic an a twodimensional douchebag cracking bad dad jokes left and right with the voice of Roger
>>253440307>>253440642>>253440661>>253441006>>253441132HELL YESWE HAVE COMPETENT PEOPLE HERE
>>253440996oh shit, I think I missed the suggestions!
>>253441469We have a bunch of competent people here. They'd rather shitpost than be competent though.
>>253440661IDW didn't pull it off well until 16.
>>253441469yes, it takes someone who writes Sonic Porn to realize what makes a good Sonic story, apparently.
>>253441709Not him, but Sonic porn writefags in this thread understand the characters better than Pontaff ever has.
>>253441664The reason it pulled it off well is because it took the time to establish itself. Not that you spergs would no anything about that. You all read Archie after it was already dead and gone.
>>253441908What? It pulled it off well because things actually happened.
>>253441983Yeah anon, things that required set up to happen.
>>253441908Sonic Adventure literally had stakes introduced right with its opening cutscene. Don't fucking pretend Ian Flynn's shit pacing isn't ruining the comic.
>>253442041No it didn't, no one gave a fuck about Chaos until after all of Tikal's flashbacks.
>>253441586Team Sonic, Amy & Rouge
>>253442224Maybe you, but Sonic Adventure and Adventure 2 had awesome opening cutscenes.
>>253442194cute. it's just too bad blaze is racist.
>>253441890I have never been so proud to be a sonic Porn writefagshit, man... I actually talked to Kaminski back in the day. I wanted to write for Archie. Now I write Mongoose incest>>253442271Ooooh yeah... I remember. Let me copy that this time
>>253440642The concept of the characters growing up can be utilised correctly, it's sort of illustrated with the cast and designs of the Classic Protagonists going towards their Modern Designs (we don't count Boom). However, the development of the character is absent in the newer stories. At least before, you could just a little bit see a sort of 'coming of age' for these characters, but there's none of that now. Same mistakes that Hollywood makes in their products. These characters are just looney toons props thrown in to make jokes, like Smurfs and Transformers in live action. People NEED to remember that these are living, breathing people with personalities. We have so many resources at our disposal to do this. Why else do you think you have so many people poking fun at Sonic dying all the time now? >>253441006Pretty much this whole post. Have these characters change for the better in their story. Have them be the same people, just developed. You could start with for example, the classic sonic from the OVA or something, and then work it out from there, taking inspiration from some of the moments in the TV series later on and a few of the games like Unleashed. The copycatting of other franchises has to stop, come up with something on your own, even if that's similar to what someone else has done, but at least you came up with it on your own. >>253440661Exactly. There's a reason why people love some of the more specific dramatic moments, because they have some tension and weight to them. That's something that the Opening of Unleashed is credited for in the eyes of many people (the 'Werehog' is still dumb though, lol). The characters weren't just going around YOLO style in that scene, you can still see they experienced fear, angst, and the sorts. That's also the reason why so many people were caught off guard by Doctor Robotnik actually defeating Sonic, in such a way that didn't seem implausible. The characters both knew exactly what they were doing.
>>253442194I'm so sick of this shitty ship.
>>253430550If sonic mania is so good why does it have diarrhea?
>>253442293SA2 sure, but setting up a mystery isn't the same as watching an unnatural disaster unfold with intimate looks at the effects it has on the general populous.
>>253439723god damn it anon, have mercy on my sides
>>253442032No one cared about IDW until things actually started happening.
>>253442542We all read every issues, dont even pretend.
>>253442650And we complained about it until 16
Now, now, now Sonicfags. Don't get too excited and hopeful or Doctor Jim Carry is going to have to call on his old college friend Dr. Piccolo. I believe you are all quite familiar with him already in fact.